From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 2 03:55:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CCD9AF4A2 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 03:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter01.peakinternet.com (filter01.peakinternet.com [207.55.16.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC4AC1191 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 03:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by filter01.peakinternet.com ({e1c81c21-e4c4-4528-aa90-7a27869c545a}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20150802035147280_0000 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2015 20:51:47 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A508B5BBAA for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2015 20:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991FA5BBA0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2015 20:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta02.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bGsrJ9-6rgXh for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2015 20:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org [207.55.17.96]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA4E5BB7B for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2015 20:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLkJL-00045o-9G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2015 20:51:43 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bootstrapping pkg from a package Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 20:51:43 -0700 Message-ID: <87y4hugxf4.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 03:55:14 -0000 I was just bringing up my Raspberry Pi from the 10.2-RC2 image and tried to install some packages that I had saved previously. The pkg(7) manpage states that the pkg in the base system can use 'pkg add ' to install the pkg package instead of getting the package from the repository (which isn't available for arm). When I tried that I just got the message 'Signature for pkg not available.' I don't have a signature for it, and don't know where to get it from or how to generate it. Once I install it from ports, I can use that to add other saved packages without any signature being necessary. The manpage makes it appear that should work, so is there something else that I need to do? Thanks for any information. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 2 08:28:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF94E9B091A for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBEA01FF8 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: by pabkd10 with SMTP id kd10so66875541pab.2 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 01:28:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fDh07G+qbywIjndaFeuY9RcWIeliNXVelAyYxHWKaMw=; b=TQp8KjMJBMX2ST12agfooQaJv37adixd3lTXpfaJsRO+qTfrxwTtgoeMJXq0XXrvqr Ee9Llyh5c5oyX6XmpvHmXFTTmzZXoOFaZt6+KnVeHXXNXI87zZ45WTqlD877lAA3rV+S ha7+UF+KlHQox0QbWQ3ir0N+ZLH3oIZEy/UoI2hUjTppBZA+V3E0Yq5x7tEbWAKKDV7p AuiN3P77voHSj+bkvi3zED6e4xiyx2kpiUBbwC0MXGjT8Hm7BHnpF/pTwjh7ihqPB0oZ dJzOfi1sVrHIUW2iHnwtm6rsm+gESk7cFq6+xaz1wIcL0ZNFF0+A13a7I1OWi71lEa2M aQ2w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKlw4XjKg0ARkZSBZvQ7YH7esk3tVO5L0yc9w/HUR6wdhFsrufpIOmksXTfyzRcyUbH3yA X-Received: by 10.66.141.109 with SMTP id rn13mr24564969pab.127.1438504089567; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 01:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.18] (220-244-182-21.static.tpgi.com.au. [220.244.182.21]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id xr5sm13744772pac.38.2015.08.02.01.28.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Aug 2015 01:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BDD493.9020907@jensenwaud.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:28:03 +1000 From: Anders Jensen-Waud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualization on FreeBSD References: <16A1C495-9A4B-4ED0-AFE7-3735219D1143@kraus-haus.org> <86mvyd6wk2.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <55BB7263.1070706@hiwaay.net> <55BB91C7.6040209@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <55BB91C7.6040209@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 08:28:16 -0000 On 01/08/15 01:17, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 07/31/15 10:07, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:03 AM, William A. Mahaffey III >> >> wrote: >> >>> That wiki page explicitly mentions 9.3 as including bhyve support >>> (under >>> /etc/ttys support). I am on 9.3R-p20 & I find no mention of bhyve in >>> man >>> pages or anywhere else .... Is it really there ? TIA & have a good one. >> >> Yeah, a bhyve host will run 9.3 as a guest and the guest serial console >> should automatically default to on. >> > > > Hmmmm .... OK, I mis-interpretted/misunderstood, I was looking for > 9.3R to run bhyve as a host, any info on that ? Thanks & TIA. > bhyve, to my knowledge, only runs on FreeBSD 10.0 and greater, unfortunately. If you are looking to virtualisation on 9.3, I recommend considering VirtualBox. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 2 11:54:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878269B1BA7 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 11:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A9523B6 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 11:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t72Bskxm061509 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 12:54:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t72Bskxm061509 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t72Bskxm061509; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: Bootstrapping pkg from a package To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87y4hugxf4.fsf@elk.localnet> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55BE04FA.6040301@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 12:54:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87y4hugxf4.fsf@elk.localnet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BqvU4sMXT0LPUGiCfpKPi2lmdrx7LlMlr" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 11:54:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BqvU4sMXT0LPUGiCfpKPi2lmdrx7LlMlr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/08/2015 04:51, Carl Johnson wrote: > I was just bringing up my Raspberry Pi from the 10.2-RC2 image and trie= d > to install some packages that I had saved previously. The pkg(7) > manpage states that the pkg in the base system can use 'pkg add ' > to install the pkg package instead of getting the package from the > repository (which isn't available for arm). When I tried that I just > got the message 'Signature for pkg not available.' I don't have a > signature for it, and don't know where to get it from or how to generat= e > it. Once I install it from ports, I can use that to add other saved > packages without any signature being necessary. You'll only get this error message if SIGNATURE_TYPE=3D'fingerprints' somewhere in your pkg.conf and you're using pkg(7) to run 'pkg add something' -- otherwise it will just go ahead and install from the pkg.txz tarball without checking the package integrity and authentici= ty. > The manpage makes it appear that should work, so is there something els= e > that I need to do? Thanks for any information. Check for the presence of pkg.txz.sig -- that has to be present in the same directory as the pkg.txz you're trying to install from before signature checking will work -- and also that you have the current FreeBSD repository public key: /usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 which should look like this: % cat pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 # $FreeBSD: stable/10/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 260608 2014-01-13 22:07:36Z bdrewery $ function: "sha256" fingerprint: "b0170035af3acc5f3f3ae1859dc717101b4e6c1d0a794ad554928ca0cbb2f438" Each of these files should be present on the installation media, if they haven't already been installed on the system. Otherwise I believe you can turn off signature checking by setting: SIGNATURE_TYPE=3Dnone in the environment before you call pkg(7). If putting it in the environment doesn't work, then you could try adding that to /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf -- note that this will not have any effect on pkg(8) once installed. pkg(8) would want that setting in a per-repo file eg. /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf, and the format is a bit different: FreeBSD: { signature_type: none } However it would be preferable to have signature checking enabled. 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I have a workstation that has an external drive connected by eSATA. Trainee house-elves unplugged the drive's power cord, causing it to no longer be seen even after power was restored. Short of rebooting, is there a way to re-scan something and cause the drive to become available? (I.e. show up under /dev/gpt) Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 2 16:05:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D599B18B4 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christian.baer@uni-dortmund.de) Received: from dd13304.kasserver.com (dd13304.kasserver.com [85.13.135.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25BDA1DC8 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christian.baer@uni-dortmund.de) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p5B02192B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.2.25.43]) by dd13304.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 37B671E0249 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 17:59:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from falbala.localnet (falbala.rz1.convenimus.net [192.168.100.8]) by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B6715210 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 17:53:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Baer To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: How do you guys do it with Owncloud (client)? Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:59:32 +0200 Message-ID: <2190738.oaEa4U0gL2@falbala> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.2 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p10; KDE/4.14.2; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart7652954.mu7tRIL6NF"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:05:13 -0000 --nextPart7652954.mu7tRIL6NF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello everybody! Although the weather is great today around where I live (not a cloud in the sky), I have decided I want to get this working! I guess I have stubbornness issues. :-) I've been using OC for quite some time now (on shared hosting) and the clients for Windows (home) and Linux (work). As some of you may remember, a while ago I bought a new computer and now I find myself almost exclusively using FreeBSD at home, which of course brought up the wish to use OC on FreeBSD. Fulfilling this wish has been pretty frustrating so far and quite frankly, I have no idea why I haven't found much more bitching about this on the web. Disclaimer: This is not me bitching! I am simply staggered by the fact that such a commonly used software doesn't have a flood of howtos and comments about it not working under FreeBSD on the client side. Anyways, moving on... :-) The official OwnCloud (Linux) Desktop Client does not (seem to) work under FreeBSD. I haven't looked into this myself, but I am guessing this is a FUSE issue. I want to use the OC client on my fileserver (which runs FreeBSD like my workstation), so I don't terribly mind that there is no GUI. A while back I did some research and found out, that ocsync (some front-end to csync) was the way to go under FreeBSD. Back then the almost utter lack of documentation about ocsync put me off a bit, because I had more important things to do at the time and didn't want to spend that much time working this out. Today I thought, I'd spend half a day if needed and get this to work. So I updated my ports to the current revision and look for ocsync - and it was gone. Another piece of software I came accross was mirall, and whatdoyouknow? It's gone too! At first I thought this was some mistake and my update of the ports tree had broken something. But there are no manpages for these on freebsd.org anymore either - which is a pretty sure sign that there is no official support for them. What all this boils down to: I am pretty sure that some of you will be using FreeBSD on the desktop as I am and there is a good chance that a subset of those will use OwnCloud. How do you do it? How did you set it up? Where did you get your information/documentation from? I am grateful for anything useful on this! Kind regards, Chris --nextPart7652954.mu7tRIL6NF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iL4EABEKAGYFAlW+PmRfFIAAAAAALgAoaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDgzRDQzNjY2NUYzMDVBMTYxMDY0ODYwNzMy MDIxMzQyODdFMUJGQjIACgkQMgITQofhv7I6oAD/cYKq8+s2mIhIsgiA+aNriDLv ZUdu86AZx1i79nnnvkYA/RlR0TnycO+DJ7KZeHeVRfqFKQ7/NP1dtUzTyjB4YFOP =608E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart7652954.mu7tRIL6NF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 2 16:20:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061A19B1BDE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter04.peak.org (filter04.peak.org [69.59.194.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6B4A857 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by filter04.peak.org ({b5578ef9-c87c-4111-97f7-092309db775d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20150802161613460_0000 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:16:13 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60A2254CA3 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541E352513 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta02.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id pdlIZhDYORjJ for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org [207.55.17.96]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3E15005C for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 09:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLvvi-0007iu-O5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:16:06 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping pkg from a package References: <87y4hugxf4.fsf@elk.localnet> <55BE04FA.6040301@FreeBSD.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:16:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: <55BE04FA.6040301@FreeBSD.org> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Sun, 2 Aug 2015 12:54:34 +0100") Message-ID: <87r3nlhdix.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:20:01 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > On 02/08/2015 04:51, Carl Johnson wrote: >> I was just bringing up my Raspberry Pi from the 10.2-RC2 image and tried >> to install some packages that I had saved previously. The pkg(7) >> manpage states that the pkg in the base system can use 'pkg add ' >> to install the pkg package instead of getting the package from the >> repository (which isn't available for arm). When I tried that I just >> got the message 'Signature for pkg not available.' I don't have a >> signature for it, and don't know where to get it from or how to generate >> it. Once I install it from ports, I can use that to add other saved >> packages without any signature being necessary. > > You'll only get this error message if SIGNATURE_TYPE='fingerprints' > somewhere in your pkg.conf and you're using pkg(7) to run > 'pkg add something' -- otherwise it will just go ahead and install from > the pkg.txz tarball without checking the package integrity and authenticity. That is the default in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf, so the base pkg uses that. >> The manpage makes it appear that should work, so is there something else >> that I need to do? Thanks for any information. > > Check for the presence of pkg.txz.sig -- that has to be present in the > same directory as the pkg.txz you're trying to install from before > signature checking will work -- and also that you have the current > FreeBSD repository public key: > > /usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 > > which should look like this: > > % cat pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 > # $FreeBSD: stable/10/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 > 260608 2014-01-13 22:07:36Z bdrewery $ > > function: "sha256" > fingerprint: > "b0170035af3acc5f3f3ae1859dc717101b4e6c1d0a794ad554928ca0cbb2f438" > > Each of these files should be present on the installation media, if they > haven't already been installed on the system. Those are present, but the problem is there is no FreeBSD repository available for the arm architecture, so that is why I am doing this. > Otherwise I believe you can turn off signature checking by setting: > > SIGNATURE_TYPE=none Setting the environment variable works, so I don't need to bother with changing the configuration file. It still seems odd that I can add packages with pkg from ports without a signature, so it seems the pkg from ports ignores the signature setting in the config file. Thanks for the explanation and fix. Hopefully they will get a pkg repository setup for arm before too long so I won't need to bother with this. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 2 16:33:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79939B002B for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from mail1.g16.pair.com (mail1.g16.pair.com [66.39.65.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88963138C for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from atomizer (c-71-60-227-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.227.57]) by mail1.g16.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0FFF65C7F for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 12:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 12:32:56 -0400 From: Rod Person To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: re-scanning external SATA drive Message-ID: <20150802123256.159e2f04@atomizer> In-Reply-To: <21950.9140.526655.387404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <21950.9140.526655.387404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:33:05 -0000 On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 10:05:40 -0400 wrote: > > (This is a "Sunday-morning-no-brain" question; didn't find > anything in a quick trip through the Handbook and I'm missing the > magic term(s) for successful Google-fu.) > > I have a workstation that has an external drive connected by > eSATA. > Trainee house-elves unplugged the drive's power cord, > causing it to no longer be seen even after power was restored. > Short of rebooting, is there a way to re-scan something and > cause the drive to become available? (I.e. show up under /dev/gpt) > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff Does camcontrol rescan help? -- Rod http://www.rodperson.com He who knows himself to be one way and pretends it is another way is a thief who robs his own soul. The Mahabharata Sakuntala 25 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 12:57:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735609B23B7 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 12:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman@khine.net) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19F421AF9 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 12:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman@khine.net) Received: by wibud3 with SMTP id ud3so112799276wib.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 05:57:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VYHsheat5eaBgYdSHBTyQCsTNHwf4HjpRyyNAVQ4SRk=; b=S0YF29wKFCOj3DNcCrQuX7tpJc+v3MK6h6VzfWduN8690pfTQwDIB1ExBZ4yGdov0S nIxKAaLr55ptfjFBYpQIDuwFyo5pIkHYyC3pcJ8w2SQEM3dLcpo5P5rRLV9SmJGwFHbK 6AKhE43579VjYuVHyqoOYTAbLqjGBxy5+2SRMoWoKmEVRfO4k32xC8h824DghhTyGlhM Z7yND2dRbpOzWptPydUBSS6BP2UU8fCebYVUeRGZvM9P7Ml5yvg3i5DkkSwA+oIrDbd/ BGOTmlK9xhN9bTHEr/AsGnDuUfdYZci7oAToDRWpy+IlBO+ir+oOmZel06Q7bx4Kpvsv vr+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnxAFCAHWC6Lo2ogc5BJ1LKf0WQDzWCZ7WWFhuACvo9JgG+YkbotvOQRuros7bQdkvV9mO/ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.211.98 with SMTP id nb2mr33898851wic.91.1438606647048; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 05:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.5.14 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 05:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:57:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: freebsd-docker From: Norman Khine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:57:35 -0000 Hello, I have followed https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker to setup docker inside the jails. This works fine, but I am unable to globaly set DNS and DNS-SEARCH options, so that i can resolve from within the docker instance. Any advise much appreciated -- %>>> "".join( [ {'*':'@','^':'.'}.get(c,None) or chr(97+(ord(c)-83)%26) for c in ",adym,*)&uzq^zqf" ] ) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 13:07:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F2F9B25EE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22A0CE0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73D7EGY047377 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:07:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF6782.7090908@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:07:14 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-docker References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:07:18 -0000 On 2015-08-03 14:57, Norman Khine wrote: > Hello, > I have followed https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker to setup docker inside the > jails. This works fine, but I am unable to globaly set DNS and DNS-SEARCH > options, so that i can resolve from within the docker instance. > > Any advise much appreciated > Check the archive for "freebsd and docker" in july. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 13:20:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2819B2872 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47C24AF8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73DKWA0047671 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:20:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:20:32 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: USB stick and some help with it. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:20:37 -0000 Hello list. Have an old usbstick that i bought 5-6 years ago it's a datatraveler 150. I used dd to transfer a cd image to it and now i can't "clean" it of the stick. Tried dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1 bs=1m count=100 but dd just taunting me with this: dd: /dev/da1: Input/output error 1+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 65.558710 secs (0 bytes/sec) After that the led on the stick flashes like it is writing. But i don't know if it is writing. Is it possible to make it pristine again or is it forever lost? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 13:26:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7266F9B2A4E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com (mail-qg0-f45.google.com [209.85.192.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 372F4E2F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: by qged69 with SMTP id d69so87968030qge.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=XCCtNVSqFTj5zczd4hF2bkwalVdUuOCG5dEPQizsmS4=; b=a+C/4sRu0T0mKfWWc2wcbGZ5MZtGP2Uju3+xXkkmj65JUjhDJVaG0vO0EnoORxYO5d qvW03Ib7GG64PpVwk3Jo/5rjmvvenXbcaWa/39NaalFOvT2nLom9icaxTR46WVAcxAtL S+RH88Es0Dpx2mAaYk1C8t28v3PL/EfpshAw9tAXxOL9r5X2S2AYe292mctBjK+rB9JL +SKFBDqLxuQqRdfIuIsF+rX6j+//IvlPdktJ+lNjoSqge9xrz+DLV/PyI0hv9tFDrha6 u43KsKhsmtQYJGmRJnWWf0QoefQSZySHxyF8aDWNvNUQl8u2hARvegWSnjJ4rmPvomgP iQVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkbtmHcRROZeJFDPoiqu0QV7gJOWUm8UDJWzAjNB7KXmrU8I3Xnc5+XwCOEcGSGY5967qKc X-Received: by 10.140.20.115 with SMTP id 106mr24294907qgi.87.1438608358645; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbp-1.thecreativeadvantage.com (mail.thecreativeadvantage.com. [96.236.20.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c77sm4524411qkh.15.2015.08.03.06.25.56 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 09:25:53 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <30011532-52BE-4C42-B062-5D1212EBE655@kraus-haus.org> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:26:05 -0000 On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:20, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Have an old usbstick that i bought 5-6 years ago it's a datatraveler = 150. >=20 > I used dd to transfer a cd image to it and now i can't "clean" it of = the stick. >=20 > Tried dd if=3D/dev/random of=3D/dev/da1 bs=3D1m count=3D100 but dd = just taunting me with this: >=20 > dd: /dev/da1: Input/output error > 1+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 65.558710 secs (0 bytes/sec) I ran into this a bit ago with an SSD. Use gpart to add a partition map. gpart add gpt /dev/da1 -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 13:30:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FFD9B2C0C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 057E410CE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73DUXvt047869; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:30:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF6CF9.6080208@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:30:33 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Kraus , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <30011532-52BE-4C42-B062-5D1212EBE655@kraus-haus.org> In-Reply-To: <30011532-52BE-4C42-B062-5D1212EBE655@kraus-haus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:30:37 -0000 On 2015-08-03 15:25, Paul Kraus wrote: > gpart add gpt /dev/da1 Thank you. But i only get this; gpart add gpt /dev/da1 gpart: Option 't' not specified. usage: gpart add -t type [-a alignment] [-b start] [-s size] [-i index] [-l label] [-f flags] geom gpart backup geom gpart bootcode [-b bootcode] [-p partcode -i index] [-f flags] geom gpart commit geom gpart create -s scheme [-n entries] [-f flags] provider gpart delete -i index [-f flags] geom gpart destroy [-F] [-f flags] geom gpart modify -i index [-l label] [-t type] [-f flags] geom gpart set -a attrib [-i index] [-f flags] geom gpart show [-l | -r] [-p] [geom ...] gpart undo geom gpart unset -a attrib [-i index] [-f flags] geom gpart resize -i index [-a alignment] [-s size] [-f flags] geom gpart restore [-lF] [-f flags] provider [...] gpart recover [-f flags] geom gpart help gpart list [-a] [name ...] gpart status [-ags] [name ...] gpart load [-v] gpart unload [-v] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 14:01:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594CB9B2336 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com (mail-qg0-f45.google.com [209.85.192.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2381E930 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: by qgii95 with SMTP id i95so88696910qgi.2 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 07:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=j0wxJeJcLxhJO+GUkQybPXBZ099dOBfj2T6nu18UeUs=; b=m/yg/uC8d8WuJpyF5d3ULVNhdUHgpN+R7woEt4jTorkb+bmZnJ4Xwl8PscSnXNX1Lf +uSUdqg9Cmrb+rDAVmX2kM0CV+HiLGN9VRxVuCP9JcdNodf+XErVzyTNx5wqFBYi8OWF PY1jiO4jHQQ8AIfWPcYTjrp91ZBlcFUbucaPU5d/jZcEKWVusRgaM9Fe9jWROpyrDz2D rB3UkujsiYBZ6bQ3GabMawe/9wxDZ27y0kPV+gacrmIv3feYgSjCj3hKP9v8kjE8GZbI KzgwZqVCUIGJfKvlQNOuZrTsYemjKTn52GvPPBWGxSrtAQw++dG7WMjqMWu+nuVQsCwF q9uw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmuhtun3gA94CvVDC2kiPvAgsspNYY7GF8KtnQb/X1RoVa5XdZGhNwfQlBq1Mjvhb/zQekz X-Received: by 10.140.28.244 with SMTP id 107mr14890954qgz.16.1438610114931; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 06:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbp-1.thecreativeadvantage.com (mail.thecreativeadvantage.com. 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From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <55BF6CF9.6080208@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 09:55:12 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8778E24F-6299-4773-AB40-B9A2609019EC@kraus-haus.org> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <30011532-52BE-4C42-B062-5D1212EBE655@kraus-haus.org> <55BF6CF9.6080208@bananmonarki.se> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:01:10 -0000 On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:30, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2015-08-03 15:25, Paul Kraus wrote: >=20 >> gpart add gpt /dev/da1 >=20 > Thank you. But i only get this; >=20 > gpart add gpt /dev/da1 Sorry, too early, not enough coffee gpart create -s gpt /dev/da1=20 That will create a new GPT partition map and should wipe out what is = there. If you really want to overwrite all the data, then add a = partition that fills the entire drive and dd /dev/random to it gpart add -t /dev/da1 The type should be mostly immaterial in this case as you are just using = the partition to allow you to write to the entire drive. I would use = freebsd-ufs. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 15:26:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1229AE8C3 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 170E21AB0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igr7 with SMTP id 7so56436654igr.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EPM5VtbqObOulXklsHq3pVjrMzb5QJq4p6DGKSo1IjQ=; b=C7ynlilaXa3dn5p4PZBUtTRb2CvBWTJJ7Kt/cyrQmjbSU0nAf5rz5SbJxzun0Fkc+d ttJzB59K4M5x4IqPkfpRwdYE+06uUVjHCeTalyAXkMFyV2HY2EnXJ+jw3dM7dhb1zgLd bLmn8P/kI3SEpj61OO9YpRxmoNm7fmUTHxB1QM2QGAMvexHinVzEzkpIGGZbvprTaeL6 IcWgzsujRxFjTxzkebv7UVdG69krslUAXL9ebUK6y85UD3tLcY+dHBTul4ytauZA6w9C NNM/1qodIt4GvQOX8POCXN3FmbBGJslWpzeE8T0Q7sg6ghzpos6WNqV3G9HUmRs61Rdl Ap9w== X-Received: by 10.50.97.33 with SMTP id dx1mr21374833igb.1.1438615579458; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id qh9sm5919506igb.20.2015.08.03.08.26.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:26:28 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:26:20 -0000 I thought that you need to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 ....etc And be sure it is NOT mounted at all when you run the dd. Note that you must use the raw and not the block device. On 08/03/2015 07:20 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list. > > > Have an old usbstick that i bought 5-6 years ago it's a datatraveler 150. > > I used dd to transfer a cd image to it and now i can't "clean" it of > the stick. > > Tried dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1 bs=1m count=100 but dd just > taunting me with this: > > dd: /dev/da1: Input/output error > 1+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 65.558710 secs (0 bytes/sec) > > After that the led on the stick flashes like it is writing. But i > don't know if it is writing. > > Is it possible to make it pristine again or is it forever lost? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > . > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 15:48:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFB59AEEBB for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58E0E8DF for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73FmrCJ050913 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:48:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:48:53 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:48:59 -0000 On 2015-08-03 17:26, jd1008 wrote: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 bs=1m count=10 dd: /dev/rda1: Operation not supported From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 15:55:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CDA9B20F0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93477CF4 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73Ft4HX051038 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:55:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF8ED8.1060706@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:55:04 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <30011532-52BE-4C42-B062-5D1212EBE655@kraus-haus.org> <55BF6CF9.6080208@bananmonarki.se> <8778E24F-6299-4773-AB40-B9A2609019EC@kraus-haus.org> In-Reply-To: <8778E24F-6299-4773-AB40-B9A2609019EC@kraus-haus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:55:08 -0000 On 2015-08-03 15:55, Paul Kraus wrote: > gpart create -s gpt /dev/da1 gpart create -s gpt /dev/da1 gpart: Input/output error From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 16:00:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C54B9B2195 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x244.google.com (mail-io0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBD58E26 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iodz133 with SMTP id z133so11721339iod.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:00:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N9viP/7w32pMNjpsq5LPpKu3VNomXH5/x8x3hFzbr24=; b=NfPJE7FKaMXtc70VdiO8mU9sy9K1LED4CJZZUKvi3Cb9rpP0Q0HWcdYilDf1425IYA 62V8A/LkB9V2ftpIlGHeSTUZR+kuLtuzDPAUBXxjASjDK2eHZgtPWaim/l0gjGUfiqop 5OZm8putO+vKxUY/nFf8JTFW9VjsvlLu3gAISkost3LnpOSxCazKRDj2ErPaf8qKpV7H U1SidYOOLGzo/UCf9V/Qf1XBLmuGu4Cscx8FAN48cvN9dmm7kEbknOz9w6uOnS/Nxxi6 7iqyneSxfL2gzjcQL1H3asW/VcxwDqRgm3cKQiImnwgNxEY6XNG5q9YDh7gnZwvANjTE uVDQ== X-Received: by 10.107.137.95 with SMTP id l92mr20530056iod.2.1438617627120; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q187sm10364305ioe.37.2015.08.03.09.00.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:00:36 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:28 -0000 Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? On 08/03/2015 09:48 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 17:26, jd1008 wrote: >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 bs=1m count=10 > > dd: /dev/rda1: Operation not supported > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > . > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 16:21:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8A59B25FC for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AE1A1B3B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73GLsAp051767 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:21:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:21:54 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:21:58 -0000 On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: > Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? As root. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 16:26:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3549B26C7 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 641111DA6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igbpg9 with SMTP id pg9so75397394igb.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:26:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7xJGc8h3AuCdH8ylxygmu1zV6hzVMaNux7DNwJPJz84=; b=KighP7kW3lPv0AbYC+nOaoliSUOPQ3BYhGq0a/QB8l4fg62NcFO6c8g1dVYY1kuX0C rR1/ApM2A77jXoY0T1dYEA8iXdogbCm9kkxaivRYJbTDA01BpvyVg5iiM8nd9vo5dLWf 9G3oFzrgnEtXskwIwvkQmAHLbdfkB0fybUMvMBhRjDmWW4bSCF2bd6sdk7/GVCIHm+Gf UIzyvOYhyyLme/Il8291PI6BKG6ysWdxBgDVy/Vg5aISLRrigLr06zGAm6TsJz8JKVmZ Bt4vg8m6IpNFZavZqQLhXAOX9c3cf+EnTubCTAAtwBUveFSCKc7t9AiEW/YG4UxFnRPu 52DA== X-Received: by 10.50.29.101 with SMTP id j5mr21716744igh.50.1438619203784; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id qs10sm6047184igb.14.2015.08.03.09.26.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:26:51 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:26:44 -0000 On 08/03/2015 10:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: >> Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? > > As root. If your installation cannot write to the raw device, then it is either a bug or .....???? One thing that you have to be aware of is that if you dd an iso image to a flash, then afterwards, the OS will always assume it is a non-writable cdrom; that is until you dd /dev/zero into the raw device while it is not mounted. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 16:34:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC349B2993 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A397A926 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73GYVFa052025 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:34:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:34:31 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:34:35 -0000 On 2015-08-03 18:26, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/03/2015 10:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >> >> On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: >>> Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? >> >> As root. > If your installation cannot write to the raw device, then > it is either a bug or .....???? > > One thing that you have to be aware of is that if you > dd an iso image to a flash, then afterwards, the OS > will always assume it is a non-writable cdrom; that > is until you dd /dev/zero into the raw device while > it is not mounted. > There is no rda* on FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p15 #0 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 16:39:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB459B2ACF for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25763D5F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igbpg9 with SMTP id pg9so59408917igb.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MiSwCciGS7dQSkTjO+2+kYdI+A8TnqW+GhiJruGuSXQ=; b=gsiDkwKKv2lsVSsoLaAeJowQFnlfzmts7CBVNXJz5hgrnyD2vZx/yMNFj7FmRpRkUx jD3Jqc90P8kKYnZpNiM2GivIgInnqA24sQcEA5ThPmQMhq3s/6tMiuY2ccK/w+vAVp3a YzW5Ube6OF7bYKqfNPdF33IfgFwHyj8CTACkAlLNo0HiplGtqtN+J+LIVd17h2wjAmTq M5uvph4XdGxO9JvWvnwG81mfQ0oGL6nHJOb9e3Rn5oGL9yxt0pEAOxDollSq/JHXwQAy Feo10jLRyz80T6DsWYpjddysudLXO+TOT7YzJYd6eIvcs0GjEsKtVgUUM6RShlm39kNj EcFQ== X-Received: by 10.50.33.82 with SMTP id p18mr23225598igi.8.1438619979480; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a133sm6482889ioe.34.2015.08.03.09.39.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:39:48 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:39:40 -0000 On 08/03/2015 10:34 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 18:26, jd1008 wrote: >> >> >> On 08/03/2015 10:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: >>>> Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? >>> >>> As root. >> If your installation cannot write to the raw device, then >> it is either a bug or .....???? >> >> One thing that you have to be aware of is that if you >> dd an iso image to a flash, then afterwards, the OS >> will always assume it is a non-writable cdrom; that >> is until you dd /dev/zero into the raw device while >> it is not mounted. >> > There is no rda* on FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p15 #0 So how will a user write to the raw device?? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 16:42:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A749B2BE4 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36F79106C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMIoD-0003w6-Op for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:41:53 +0200 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:41:53 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:41:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:41:39 -0400 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:42:03 -0000 Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 17:26, jd1008 wrote: >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 bs=1m count=10 > > dd: /dev/rda1: Operation not supported Does setting sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 (as root) make any difference? Don't recall for sure if it's supposed to be 16 or 15, but I've used this command before successfully to unlock. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 16:58:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F759B2104 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 998ED9C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iodd187 with SMTP id d187so150374344iod.2 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:58:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XPoYvUvFyuR4sQyHHkQw32hqMirPsWweUru4dqa54Zg=; b=Wmlb54v8hzZncS5Y0AIEIxv7GCCuhE5jLv19lOuCJoCQs1DO7RqXOi/i196VFN53e3 HOt8KiYRbUsy/latSYmQZMLvJJYDf4eTA0enIcRSbQt/9ZL61LyTnhY4gTHm7JYIQiLI 9Ykh00oxomdAkLTnL7eEhz3SE/JbmSZMwes2indIvnxu5fpZv5nAbGK0wrLSLriWaTwu Fzof4Rl9Xrm+FLaJnOsRv4fEivOjB2+JxTFUb59/9F4mt3KAmpTU3NzrWVWp3t7AOpTg YamHmDNWx3W5zymyLoRJnt1JIFJQlCv/DyeFsOseXed5QbHaeAq6k8IKSRVYCKhdpDXp 7z1w== X-Received: by 10.107.164.38 with SMTP id n38mr20602163ioe.73.1438621119971; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r4sm6110103igh.9.2015.08.03.09.58.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BF9DC6.5090503@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:58:46 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Users Subject: U. C. Berkeley Distribution Systems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:58:40 -0000 Does anyone know if the UC Berkeley still running the Berkeley Distribution, or have they switched to FreeBSD and ended on-campus development and distribution? Google showed me no links for the UC Berkeley Distrbution Systems where one can look at current or old releases. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 17:04:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325C29B2431 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7A61A54 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73H4csx052757 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:04:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BF9F26.8030003@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:04:38 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:04:42 -0000 On 2015-08-03 18:39, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/03/2015 10:34 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >> >> On 2015-08-03 18:26, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 08/03/2015 10:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: >>>>> Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? >>>> >>>> As root. >>> If your installation cannot write to the raw device, then >>> it is either a bug or .....???? >>> >>> One thing that you have to be aware of is that if you >>> dd an iso image to a flash, then afterwards, the OS >>> will always assume it is a non-writable cdrom; that >>> is until you dd /dev/zero into the raw device while >>> it is not mounted. >>> >> There is no rda* on FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p15 #0 > So how will a user write to the raw device? You tell me. I don't know. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 17:07:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103E59B2495 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22b.google.com (mail-ig0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD9FAB4E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igk11 with SMTP id 11so76073970igk.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wc3/N7CzAjr4EP9KhsygnzptWL4K5ksHGpLwB6sjxyw=; b=Rmil4NmAa6PZIvGRMr65BB5vPjcAvu7ciN+1Ra/A936YN7xoBbvYq7y0FEo/BCyUfx hRPM0HGMwIKeUm/9hWSpDpKxsPFpEkcUxx7w76ICKq8DzUJ9OglzhrpO1nxdWJGpD7ht W9NmboQp7lhjq9Vl+7OHfSX8Gu7J7tv46/MvKNn+eq1+A8N/qEhcQBRaOwSVkSoR7ema KwWD/IoB0Y1ehD3UHuBZILxGtL+9gPzNyWW4mLPoRTw6Ch4Q0gG4b6b6RLzD2kNp95G/ 1RsptKVcbkUrOrF7nfKSrXtjaX0m/hGV7EtzRIhSw41QaKQQl7Hjj6sSEIKfCi013ggp mO4g== X-Received: by 10.50.79.229 with SMTP id m5mr23710350igx.77.1438621658201; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k19sm10498065iok.20.2015.08.03.10.07.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BF9FE3.3030606@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:07:47 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> <55BF9F26.8030003@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BF9F26.8030003@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:07:39 -0000 On 08/03/2015 11:04 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 18:39, jd1008 wrote: >> >> >> On 08/03/2015 10:34 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2015-08-03 18:26, jd1008 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 08/03/2015 10:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: >>>>>> Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? >>>>> >>>>> As root. >>>> If your installation cannot write to the raw device, then >>>> it is either a bug or .....???? >>>> >>>> One thing that you have to be aware of is that if you >>>> dd an iso image to a flash, then afterwards, the OS >>>> will always assume it is a non-writable cdrom; that >>>> is until you dd /dev/zero into the raw device while >>>> it is not mounted. >>>> >>> There is no rda* on FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p15 #0 >> So how will a user write to the raw device? > You tell me. I don't know. OK, so in your installation what do you see in /dev as far as disk devices that are raw (i.e. their name starts with r)? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 17:11:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F559B2618 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4EDFEF0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73HBND9052923 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:11:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BFA0BB.5080704@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:11:23 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> <55BF9F26.8030003@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9FE3.3030606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BF9FE3.3030606@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:11:27 -0000 On 2015-08-03 19:07, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/03/2015 11:04 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >> >> On 2015-08-03 18:39, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 08/03/2015 10:34 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2015-08-03 18:26, jd1008 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/03/2015 10:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: >>>>>>> Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? >>>>>> >>>>>> As root. >>>>> If your installation cannot write to the raw device, then >>>>> it is either a bug or .....???? >>>>> >>>>> One thing that you have to be aware of is that if you >>>>> dd an iso image to a flash, then afterwards, the OS >>>>> will always assume it is a non-writable cdrom; that >>>>> is until you dd /dev/zero into the raw device while >>>>> it is not mounted. >>>>> >>>> There is no rda* on FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p15 #0 >>> So how will a user write to the raw device? >> You tell me. I don't know. > > OK, so in your installation what do you see in /dev as far as disk > devices that are raw > (i.e. their name starts with r)? None. On FreeBSD, all block devices are in fact raw devices. Support for non-raw devices was removed in FreeBSD 4.0 in order to simplify buffer management and increase scalability and performance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_device From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 17:30:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2E89B2A77 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-qg0-f52.google.com (mail-qg0-f52.google.com [209.85.192.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B9911B23 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: by qged69 with SMTP id d69so93494960qge.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:30:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=crcjTzL7PFbQkUV/9MD12kv/QYyHiQUmDfTjdyj1Kjo=; b=UKbm34hi3SsE0w9HzEKuoZBkSu2UmrkPmGItm2QCEGhwQKtXCo8BbsRDdpqwoAVZSC REhUPRW90ay6J1P97MOZLD761kTSi3LEmPDuieq9LOqALT/UGG8BwfgHTSgQIrZKM2v+ Slhswuqrm0h5kAgv/guXN44AX0rtjvFqC8Q0roPajBbr0GZSZBhcAIBQufhcrScseG97 e9LGCV6+J/OEq421GsU4eaYJhxyXKEp9GMlHOZ0IN5EsHF5ircLXhKVURDK36HjpLZsk sTohtWTjx5JMhOxi319qPzxAyVyo+O2QfGe5kMQAB0bCbgd4DaXXhtaTKjlqesG0Gqjc uFRw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnNg9EznslaVOfM7OgFReMMY3ckPNGC+t57ah32r9JC7kPUgd5aP27PDuBTVdIMq4N4hiUq X-Received: by 10.140.39.133 with SMTP id v5mr26446541qgv.34.1438622700691; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbp-1.thecreativeadvantage.com (mail.thecreativeadvantage.com. 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From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <573761DA-A954-424A-998D-AD59204D4D79@kraus-haus.org> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:24:57 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <68328CAF-A3BF-4BBE-AAC5-0783211435DD@kraus-haus.org> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> <55BF9F26.8030003@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9FE3.3030606@gmail.com> <55BFA0BB.5080704@bananmonarki.se> <573761DA-A954-424A-998D-AD59204D4D79@kraus-haus.org> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:30:57 -0000 On Aug 3, 2015, at 13:19, Paul Kraus wrote: > An ls -l on my 10.1-RELEASE-p10 systems shows disk devices as = character special (=93raw=94) and does not show any block special = devices. In fact, a find / -type b yields no results on this system, so I can = only assume there are no non-raw devices=85 While a find / -type c = yields the expected list of devices. I come from the Solaris world and _not_ having both =93raw=94 (c) and = =93cooked=94 (b) devices seems odd to me at first glance, but I suppose = it makes sense. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 17:49:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3913E9B2F3F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-qk0-f180.google.com (mail-qk0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEFF2B50 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: by qkdv3 with SMTP id v3so53490838qkd.3 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9+QlGMskzPXEETvD1NdhxGDyFIGkA/gKqnIswmO/gTM=; b=dnn3NkVTJL7nh/3kYATyyGsV/EiLbZWb/S7SXIj9lTzxyze2TusLkuWicRBWj9Z/N6 7d2d7Ic4eiCAQxIb4eK6VJ9Umj2SawWc4fDlfFkNGGMgRqpz6JTOFY/efG0PUIsrksaU X+98d8ydIT03TuXqhViSCMqvBfPiSJE1bxSDtyMBYsaLE1qGMWIY62HQ7gPT/Jizk3r8 9tItVoad3aHw1RqIqRPHgUkAUtAOhMnMdzy4l/IyeTkiotFDDX/r0zfC695PtoGRe3Lh Va3eIVfFWaNCPrO2zbHAI90+LgpmkTwxEjLLt5a8+OxctOOBp5J/xHjvmsl0dbEvwC/2 muPA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyw1n9bFw1UJj0HD5SrErlSemhHhuGHr+LTjFwl3A9cdzimoWPlSvJ6//9XNDwm21HLipE X-Received: by 10.55.41.35 with SMTP id p35mr26154791qkh.97.1438622346627; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbp-1.thecreativeadvantage.com (mail.thecreativeadvantage.com. [96.236.20.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q1sm1720016qkq.33.2015.08.03.10.19.04 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <55BFA0BB.5080704@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:19:02 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <573761DA-A954-424A-998D-AD59204D4D79@kraus-haus.org> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> <55BF9F26.8030003@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9FE3.3030606@gmail.com> <55BFA0BB.5080704@bananmonarki.se> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:49:43 -0000 On Aug 3, 2015, at 13:11, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2015-08-03 19:07, jd1008 wrote: >>=20 >> OK, so in your installation what do you see in /dev as far as disk = devices that are raw >> (i.e. their name starts with r)? >=20 > None. >=20 > On FreeBSD, all block devices are in fact raw devices. Support for = non-raw devices was removed in FreeBSD 4.0 in order to simplify buffer = management and increase scalability and performance. An ls -l on my 10.1-RELEASE-p10 systems shows disk devices as character = special (=93raw=94) and does not show any block special devices. crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x76 Jul 21 10:30 ada0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7a Jul 21 10:30 ada1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x89 Jul 21 10:30 ada1p1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x8b Jul 21 10:30 ada1p2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x8d Jul 21 10:30 ada1p3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7c Jul 21 10:30 ada2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x90 Jul 21 10:30 ada2p1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x92 Jul 21 10:30 ada2p2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x94 Jul 21 10:30 ada2p3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7e Jul 21 10:30 ada3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x80 Jul 21 10:30 ada4 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x82 Jul 21 10:30 ada5 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x84 Jul 21 10:30 ada6 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x86 Jul 21 10:30 ada7 No SCSI (da) devices on this system.=20 -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 18:01:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D979B229E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5342416D0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F40A83F875; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:01:01 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:01:04 -0000 Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on a different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a live linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's just up and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 18:03:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D53D9B234F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14FC1A4F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [88.151.27.41] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMJcY-0008RQ-Oc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:33:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMJcY-000HhE-Vd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:33:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:33:54 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: U. C. Berkeley Distribution Systems Message-Id: <20150803183354.979fbd374363bd7ed2b93906@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <55BF9DC6.5090503@gmail.com> References: <55BF9DC6.5090503@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 24227@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:03:46 -0000 On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:58:46 -0600 jd1008 wrote: > Does anyone know if the UC Berkeley still running the Berkeley > Distribution, or have they switched to FreeBSD and ended on-campus > development and distribution? Berkeley distribution shut down a long time ago (about 20 years ago), FreeBSD-2 was based on the last BSD release (4.4-Lite2). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 18:18:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8729B271F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x232.google.com (mail-ig0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18510269 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igk11 with SMTP id 11so77360960igk.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0x40IjoGAvm20xpdvGg4CWq5dsuAsIyUzGBajgFLcrc=; b=DgfRDBh7i7XHHyGkbDwhf4/F19C3XCb/9q6KcAtc0xUHbN+IVWW+NY1y+hBxXMgsCv xJARWgTelRA6LV0AQnUCMMrkGBQUL0HpOu0N8jXwD+J/YXMtTLH+fJShKEtKqmNgOjbl 1EZV90Yy1bKH9wUBblHnltcBLRwvXI8e5u4jXFdwstmk+n90klDxJrwLV7IPAuC6Psgi PnZ1knJVX8ZCbnVzhLDiFIBkPv6PEOh9r5jpqHTe3hmsiUMGDH/gLOzT2P1w4CB52owG 2TpfltIQFDJTdDoJWh23Y/L5U6cC9s6pA50NxtEmZpF/LKMRjSwnY9aS3F77ucq9Crti Xatg== X-Received: by 10.50.7.104 with SMTP id i8mr21785316iga.50.1438625883411; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id ax8sm2020906igc.15.2015.08.03.11.18.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:18:12 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:18:04 -0000 On 08/03/2015 12:01 PM, Quartz wrote: > Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on a > different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a live > linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's just up > and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at all. I second Quartz's suggestion. Just download a live linux cd, such as: http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso along with checksum files: http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.md5 http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.sha1 Once you burn it to dvd, boot it, and use the gui to launch a terminal (icon for it is at bottom left bar). then you run su - then you insert the usb stick. Assuming there is only one HD in the machine, the stick will be named /dev/sdb If more than one HD in the machine, say 4 HD (sda, sdb, sdc, sdd), then the stick will be sde. Run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1M where ? is b or c or d ...etc depending on how many HD's you have in the system. You do not need to specify the count, because dd will stop when the stick is full of zeros. Once done, unplug the stick, and reinsert it. then run the command fdisk /dev/sd? (? as explained above) create 1 partition. set it's type to whatever you want. I usually use the letter c as the type to mean fat lba. To finish, type the command w to the fdisk session and you are done. Now type fdisk -l /dev/sd? and you will see the drive has 1 partition. now create a filesystem on your drive: mkfs -t vfat /dev/sd?1 (again ? as explained above). type the command reboot and the dvd drive will get ejected. press the return key to boot into your normal HD. The stick is now useable and mountable. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 18:37:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE389B2BB1 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14F710B8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 9DC13CB8CAB; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:11:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.4 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:11:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <25777.128.135.52.4.1438625477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:11:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Quartz" Cc: "Bernt Hansson" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:37:32 -0000 On Mon, August 3, 2015 1:01 pm, Quartz wrote: > Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on a > different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a live > linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's just up > and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at all. > Similar thought: Some of older flash drives had mechanical "write protection" switch... Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 18:51:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4579B2FCF for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14B951B82 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by ioeg141 with SMTP id g141so154172945ioe.3 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:51:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nmF4ZvE9+1lDU5t4zlUgl9KTT6qwArPGDWQSGXkFhpo=; b=JSlfWvUcexS7+XtSo+ayjKkgm6yCnuD7vx5qiOkAejC6kwKpKMhHY3XWFpSzTfCfC1 0XgADFTKBr8rytG88EYuLoEPBl8XIyIH9+jGbR/PJ2JQjMqfg9wn8N2TGei3dYP9/5CX LHX6MOFe/RvYWhn7ZdZ7uc50UUVJwQjEkruTOGwqf39zmSj4JyJaQDtLpAeGoVKR8Ow0 MP/6MADQcenCvY1CrfMhjdX6BHgZ6yCqNcpJ0u6EugbE/SsNIDK1SES3CgtPR1ptDZIT mB45y9RwWg5g29g6zYJ34ju0zu0fDnD1zySV+3+ZfJBEE6Tw6henRJHi392+rnTH4ybl GQiQ== X-Received: by 10.107.132.15 with SMTP id g15mr21503825iod.134.1438627860595; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id bd7sm6301747igb.19.2015.08.03.11.50.59 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BFB81D.7040004@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:51:09 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <25777.128.135.52.4.1438625477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <25777.128.135.52.4.1438625477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:51:01 -0000 On 08/03/2015 12:11 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Mon, August 3, 2015 1:01 pm, Quartz wrote: >> Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on a >> different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a live >> linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's just up >> and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at all. >> > Similar thought: Some of older flash drives had mechanical "write > protection" switch... > > Valeri > I had a square flash drive for cameras which indeed did have such a switch. But I do not recall seeing one on usb sticks or thumb drives. Perhaps those were before my time :) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 19:44:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2C69B2ECC for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADBBC1480 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by ioea135 with SMTP id a135so154980607ioe.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kMPV2Pcu1zU5UnG3xE3biPl1cw8hOBSO0Bsegx0SuT0=; b=aAXFD4H2vO9o39Rm5U9n0Qr1Ebk7HwbUGit1+haImpENeyD4+SzYXVFO/J5WKpRqyi aY5zv6twg0RiusgJ/NRfwgH/yW/Y0w09rm9ikyMrWc0FbqA4rFMumAy1FVrOIZ7ieE5C 8ryWHvH6gm8dvC1GY/N5LPhYgXV7VvN4kzf8eBQviP+aCY8tHPEhtKX6MYnyaompVJOX MY5Q+oeUET8Ox6v0vDZyVcllKj7N/7ibvs7SWG8+kBlUE6j1zd39F5be7sxIQaj2qjlT b65cnLhCOW4wkWFeW+BTN0A/pq85NIGVITDtJ5LJMcekCgDcypwGcPu54YPBJkJDdZb4 WqJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.153.206 with SMTP id b197mr25895431ioe.71.1438631082056; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.111.205 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 12:44:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Getting value out of "man getopts" From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:44:42 -0000 Hi, When I type "man getopts" I am presented with a useless list of "built-in commands". At least it seems useless to me but that's probably because I am a dunce. Questions: 1. Why does "man getopts" not help me with "getopts"? 2. Where can I get help with "getopts" (syntax, usage, etc)? I am using /bin/csh. Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 20:17:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475AC9B2768 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29167DA3 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 256C53F705 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFCC52.3030403@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:17:22 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:17:25 -0000 Just to be 100% clear, are you referring to "getopt" or "getopts" (with the 's')? They're closely related and often confused. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 20:26:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DE89B2A1D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FDF21574 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by igbij6 with SMTP id ij6so61692045igb.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=I/ki2xxdv3LD+AZi2Fs+QGdExoCJmehYVqSj2cqtAjQ=; b=qwxJyeS/2E6kBPTxoSaZZ32Wv1sy2h3ncs+DGcy76rYR9i7DsYnCazDYanLoCqsRH1 Lvz3F8ol768aSYuUlCGc5Jff5S7QDp2YHRrS13yPmaKwstnbiWcV0wEqRUocKGoh08pg b+5HtlPPX7LWxqFzPO3mw2C+ZE+hNnbaPeHJ04dEZpr3HWtXopE0dHO4FDCGgFOQInxo yEaXkpqU7UnZ6ZRtryse5tWKu8fuaL1K33AuIz9kgo7u+RWp7dTxY20IFkDvUtxFvHmW 4VKbweEAzEb/gJRuapt9HpPOr/j9ITU40iMYe1Uq2iTlJiFIPAEbTsdvzVxs/qK0r+rj xqig== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.93.69 with SMTP id cs5mr24225366igb.4.1438633608838; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.111.205 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55BFCC52.3030403@sneakertech.com> References: <55BFCC52.3030403@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:26:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" From: Chris Stankevitz To: Quartz Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:26:49 -0000 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Quartz wrote: > Just to be 100% clear, are you referring to "getopt" or "getopts" (with the > 's')? They're closely related and often confused. Quartz, I'm interested in getopts with an 's', which is a built-in command. And I think I understand why "man getopts" shows me a largely useless page. Builtin commands might exist for many different shells and the man infrastructure doesn't necessarily know which shell's documentation to display... so it gives just a generic manual. Still leaves me wondering where I am supposed to go for csh's getopts man page. Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 20:42:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AD29B2EFE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C7F192 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t73KftYb004150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:41:56 -0500 Message-ID: <55BFD213.9030701@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:48:10 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:42:03 -0000 On 08/03/15 14:50, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hi, > > When I type "man getopts" I am presented with a useless list of > "built-in commands". At least it seems useless to me but that's > probably because I am a dunce. > > Questions: > > 1. Why does "man getopts" not help me with "getopts"? > > 2. Where can I get help with "getopts" (syntax, usage, etc)? I am > using /bin/csh. > > Thank you, > > Chris My getopts man page says there is no 'getopts' under csh .... 9.3R-p20, YMMV, IANAL & all that rot .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 20:50:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA379B2065 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2001:7c0:407:1001:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 755B077D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1ZMMgO-0003WL-QP; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 22:50:04 +0200 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t73Kk0Pf084116 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:46:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t73Kjxmp084115 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:46:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: lorvorc.mips.inka.de 1438634759 83876 ::1 (3 Aug 2015 20:45:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mips.inka.de User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:50:08 -0000 On 2015-08-03, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > When I type "man getopts" I am presented with a useless list of > "built-in commands". At least it seems useless to me but that's > probably because I am a dunce. "See the built-in command description in the appropriate shell manual page." What's unclear about this? > Questions: > 1. Why does "man getopts" not help me with "getopts"? Because getopts only exists as a shell built-in, not as a standalone command. Maybe you were thinking of getopt(1). > 2. Where can I get help with "getopts" (syntax, usage, etc)? I am > using /bin/csh. Further down, the "useless" builtin(1) man page says that getopts is only a builtin in sh(1) and not available in csh(1). -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 20:55:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6748D9B2252 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47F16B59 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BBFD3F70F; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFD555.4090609@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:55:49 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Stankevitz CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" References: <55BFCC52.3030403@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:55:52 -0000 > I'm interested in getopts with an 's', which is a built-in command. That's what I assume, but once in a while you get someone who's confused so I always double check. > And I think I understand why "man getopts" shows me a largely useless > page. Builtin commands might exist for many different shells and the > man infrastructure doesn't necessarily know which shell's > documentation to display... so it gives just a generic manual. Yeah, you got it. (I started typing exactly that up before I instead decided to clarify first.). >Still > leaves me wondering where I am supposed to go for csh's getopts man > page. Built-ins don't have one, it's why you get the generic. You should instead just google search for getopts under csh to find a guide. Unfortunately I can't help you personally here- I gave up on csh ages ago so I only know getops on bourne-derived shells. (Personally I'd strongly encourage you to give up on csh too, I've never understood why FreeBSD still uses it as a default in this day and age. If you don't want to install bash or zsh or something at least do yourself a favor and use tcsh, your sanity will thank you later). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 21:05:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431F39B24B4 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 255CF105C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A76B3F70B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFD7A0.6040201@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:05:36 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" References: <55BFD213.9030701@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <55BFD213.9030701@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:05:38 -0000 > My getopts man page says there is no 'getopts' under csh .... 9.3R-p20, > YMMV, IANAL & all that rot .... One of the many problems with csh is that early versions were super buggy and unstable, but people couldn't get their act together so everybody made their own forks and patched stuff themselves. By today's point there are like half a dozen different flavors of csh that are all slightly different and it's not always clear which version you have. IIRC most flavors of csh don't have getopts as a built-in, but I've seen a couple that sort of hack it in their own way. I've not messed with the csh in FreeBSD that much so I don't know off the top of my head what it can do. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 21:09:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F3A9B2543 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter04.peak.org (filter04.peak.org [69.59.194.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E39B111C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by filter04.peak.org ({b5578ef9-c87c-4111-97f7-092309db775d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20150803210920543_0000 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:09:20 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED44A4D031 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AB84D07A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta02.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 3Ggdp4pt58t6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org [207.55.17.96]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF5A4D050 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMMyu-0006A7-Ln for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:09:12 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" References: <55BFCC52.3030403@sneakertech.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:09:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Chris Stankevitz's message of "Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:26:48 -0700") Message-ID: <87h9oggjuv.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:09:28 -0000 Chris Stankevitz writes: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Quartz wrote: >> Just to be 100% clear, are you referring to "getopt" or "getopts" (with the >> 's')? They're closely related and often confused. > > Quartz, > > I'm interested in getopts with an 's', which is a built-in command. > > And I think I understand why "man getopts" shows me a largely useless > page. Builtin commands might exist for many different shells and the > man infrastructure doesn't necessarily know which shell's > documentation to display... so it gives just a generic manual. Still > leaves me wondering where I am supposed to go for csh's getopts man > page. I don't think that csh has getopts. There is some information in the sh(1) manpage, and that is the standard shell that will be used for shell scripts. The bash manpage has somewhat more, and probably ksh and zsh also. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 21:21:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD1F9B28E9 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFDA1E1D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [70.121.59.224] ([70.121.59.224:54749] helo=[192.168.0.4]) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 7C/59-03590-28ADFB55; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:17:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:17:54 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Binary upgrade from 8.4 to 10.1 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.142:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Qdfov6rv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=Jnt5oOXMh44BVXcArVZt4A==:117 a=Jnt5oOXMh44BVXcArVZt4A==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ycNEMqdkAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=UdvEN9gbqWsBAELrqE0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=6Zf_BjRErtwA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:21:08 -0000 I am responsible for sysadmin work on two internet-facing servers - www.stovebolt.com and mail.stovebolt.com. Both of these servers are production servers, and we have no test or devel servers. (Small hobby website with very little money.) I want to upgrade from FreeBSD 8.4 RElEASE to FreeBSD 10.1 RELEASE using FreeBSD update. I've done this before, and I don't think I'll run into issues with the binary update, but I want to make sure I do everything right and in the right order. Is there a document that describes this process with detailed steps that doesn't leave anything out? I did find this: But I'm wondering if there is an official document that describes every step of the process. Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 21:24:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3904C9B2A97 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@thehowies.com) Received: from remote.thehowies.com (50-197-91-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.197.91.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "remote.thehowies.com", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E8A9108 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@thehowies.com) Received: from PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::497b:de8e:1045:4c2a]) by PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::497b:de8e:1045:4c2a%24]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:23:36 -0700 From: John Howie To: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Binary upgrade from 8.4 to 10.1 Thread-Topic: Binary upgrade from 8.4 to 10.1 Thread-Index: AQHQzjJadJhpIA93C0qs6AyCP3vM9J36yOqA Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:23:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/0.0.0.150724 x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.22] Content-Type: text/plain; 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Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54771BBC for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [70.121.59.224] ([70.121.59.224:54966] helo=[192.168.0.4]) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 30/C9-17188-EAFDFB55; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:39:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:39:57 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Binary upgrade from 8.4 to 10.1 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.130:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=FqWL/gbq c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=Jnt5oOXMh44BVXcArVZt4A==:117 a=Jnt5oOXMh44BVXcArVZt4A==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4Scx3XHfAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=ycNEMqdkAAAA:8 a=MM27mArlD2WLp7xRYZIA:9 a=bEPQ2Dr42nfTQ9II:21 a=4TdMIIrKNXuEAT-u:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:43:11 -0000 Thanks, John. --On August 3, 2015 at 9:23:35 PM +0000 John Howie wrote: > Hi Paul, > > The FreeBSD Handbook is your friend: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgra > ding.html. > > Regards, > > John > > > > > > On 8/3/15, 2:17 PM, "owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org on behalf of > Paul Schmehl" pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> wrote: > >> I am responsible for sysadmin work on two internet-facing servers - >> www.stovebolt.com and mail.stovebolt.com. Both of these servers are >> production servers, and we have no test or devel servers. (Small hobby >> website with very little money.) >> >> I want to upgrade from FreeBSD 8.4 RElEASE to FreeBSD 10.1 RELEASE using >> FreeBSD update. >> >> I've done this before, and I don't think I'll run into issues with the >> binary update, but I want to make sure I do everything right and in the >> right order. >> >> Is there a document that describes this process with detailed steps that >> doesn't leave anything out? >> >> I did find this: >> > html> >> >> But I'm wondering if there is an official document that describes every >> step of the process. >> >> Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst >> As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions >> are my own and not those of my employer. >> ******************************************* >> "It is as useless to argue with those who have >> renounced the use of reason as to administer >> medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson >> "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very >> intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 21:56:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76229B21E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com (mail-ig0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9577F105B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by igbij6 with SMTP id ij6so63020530igb.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:56:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CFvgsvrzzUjjddwJxtTNtgo2gb+cxmsDUIsYLm1kyOM=; b=IHHo10EH+GIY9jljjHC5d11z/nCKrIn6MfNIgxIokpql8hO1VEnaNM916V+lvu1Ix+ GbOobwtfDwUyoTojdMDT1A9n6J3fleNxd8jTZzzlh3qNVO2LGFz7fl0xhdN/ltkg5fqy ftfzwQ06Wxdtf9bPIlIRHReRK3uZSYCTKw1MWSZOSR+lrd1fOjHfgMCiz1aaQ3AKPxad mwkpl+IrVuQyfXDXVPSOP62tlZOyepPrHKsKUfJaKZkwTg+Rzq2cSJQIvmuUML87muO9 pIiwUrutked3eqT3trIpk5oXtFB0ym0abUMtltirFdKi5xrT2gDCH0kpMo4Mo8AK//7R ya1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.93.69 with SMTP id cs5mr24571749igb.4.1438638987961; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.111.205 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:56:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:56:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" From: Chris Stankevitz To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:56:28 -0000 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Further down, the "useless" builtin(1) man page says that getopts > is only a builtin in sh(1) and not available in csh(1). Christian: I apologize for using the term "useless" -- I should have instead said "apparently useless to me but I am a dunce and I probably don't get it hence I am making this post asking for help". I tried to communicate this in my OP by saying "at least it seems useless to me but that's probably because I am a dunce." All: thank for your help. I now understand why "man getopts" and "man csh" are not helpful in explaining getopts. I see that "man sh" shows some info about getopts. I apologize to all I offended, particularly Sheldon Hearn, author of "man builtin". Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 22:29:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6638F9B297A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:29:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C426D373 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73MTIwv059926; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:29:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:29:18 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quartz CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 22:29:24 -0000 On 2015-08-03 20:01, Quartz wrote: > Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on a > different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a live > linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's just up > and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at all. > Well. That didn't work when it was new. So i'm not sure it's going to work now. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 22:32:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D9E9B2AF0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x241.google.com (mail-ig0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B38D89D4 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igbij6 with SMTP id ij6so7815544igb.3 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:32:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MYBxjN71NCoJe5fLwwzl0I67SM17gXmprdSRUojWb8I=; b=h5qV0JL8WL779YTOwGTjAPWGPTgKpSI/44tJsAvBeLbiacavHqC1YTVFl44Fuhi4Nn pfgNVSjqqInSSjZBMLqeTggLYG4JOEYMh3q/orUcswYbnoMUENH3aF8In/RklCi4+SKz EKWGllqMBFmFlz2/Iz3m4xg4du8TLktq1ELUnzDLmLc4+kIG7B2rJ6++2SdMGy9xZvAa wQmSQ7J8uKUeTQvcg7HyyEbMi19A9AGaRx7557Cu23/qIEJc4OkjDdoNk9FvaU5CTGSH /iubX8mC4wNr3YuXkME1YQ+donP5kSZnsbfGTL0dAtPmIBq7qVMmwV5qhGEF9eT1J2J6 6/IQ== X-Received: by 10.50.43.137 with SMTP id w9mr22459594igl.30.1438641153144; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o19sm6734351igi.14.2015.08.03.15.32.31 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BFEC09.8000507@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:32:41 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 22:32:34 -0000 It did not work on freebsd. Please try it on the Linux live DVD I sent the link for. If the stick is mechanically and electronically healthy, I am sure the iso on it will get wiped by dd'ing /dev/zero into it. On 08/03/2015 04:29 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 20:01, Quartz wrote: >> Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on >> a different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a >> live linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's >> just up and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at >> all. >> > Well. That didn't work when it was new. So i'm not sure it's going to > work now. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 22:37:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645D49B2C58 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DEF5D0A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E99B83CD85; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:30:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t73MUu8J002098; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:30:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:30:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. Message-Id: <20150804003056.094ffc57.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 22:37:48 -0000 On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:20:32 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Is it possible to make it pristine again or is it forever lost? What about the Q&D way of # newfs /dev/da1 to initialize a new UFS file system (without slicing and/or partitioning, no matter if MBR or GPT) and then simply try # mount -t ufs /dev/da1 /mnt and check if it works? Keep in mind you can - after you've verified this works - use tunefs to optimize UFS for use on USB sticks (optimization selection for speed or space, reserved space, and consider mount options like async/noasync or atime/noatime, depending on your intended use). See "man newfs", "man tunefs" and "man mount" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 22:40:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075999B2D0D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E480DE3 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73MciAH060119; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:38:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BFED74.7000104@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:38:44 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <20150804003056.094ffc57.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150804003056.094ffc57.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 22:40:09 -0000 On 2015-08-04 00:30, Polytropon wrote: > newfs /dev/da1 ugen2.3: at usbus2 umass1: on usbus2 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100 umass1:10:1:-1: Attached to scbus10 da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus10 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: Serial Number 1000000000000835 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 65536MB (134217728 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8354C) da1: quirks=0x2 You have new mail. root@testbox:~ # newfs /dev/da1 /dev/da1: 65536.0MB (134217728 sectors) block size 32768, fragment size 4096 using 105 cylinder groups of 626.09MB, 20035 blks, 80256 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at: newfs: wtfs: 131072 bytes at sector 192: Input/output error From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 22:51:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508689B205C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABB0D14BD for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73MpjKc060376 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:51:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:51:45 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 22:51:49 -0000 On 2015-08-03 20:18, jd1008 wrote: > > On 08/03/2015 12:01 PM, Quartz wrote: >> Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on >> a different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a >> live linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's >> just up and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at >> all. > I second Quartz's suggestion. > Just download a live linux cd, such as: > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso > > along with checksum files: > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.md5 > > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.sha1 > > > Once you burn it to dvd, boot it, and use the gui to launch a terminal > (icon for it is at bottom left bar). > My burner can no longer burn dvds only plain cds. > then you run > su - > > then you insert the usb stick. > Assuming there is only one HD in the machine, the stick will be > named /dev/sdb If more than one HD in the machine, say 4 HD (sda, > sdb, sdc, sdd), then > the stick will be sde. > > Run > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1M > where ? is b or c or d ...etc depending on how many HD's you have in > the system. > You do not need to specify the count, because dd will stop when the > stick is full of > zeros. > > Once done, unplug the stick, and reinsert it. > > then run the command fdisk /dev/sd? (? as explained above) > > create 1 partition. > set it's type to whatever you want. I usually use the letter c as the > type > to mean fat lba. > > To finish, type the command w to the fdisk session > and you are done. > > Now type fdisk -l /dev/sd? > > and you will see the drive has 1 partition. > > now create a filesystem on your drive: > > mkfs -t vfat /dev/sd?1 (again ? as explained above). > > type the command > reboot > and the dvd drive will get ejected. > press the return key to boot into your normal HD. > > > The stick is now useable and mountable. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:06:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD5D9B249A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 033E74E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-24-166-126-146.neo.res.rr.com [24.166.126.146]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f495141c; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id b83b39a4; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1438643172.1420.11.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:06:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:06:23 -0000 On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 00:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > On 2015-08-03 20:18, jd1008 wrote: > > > > On 08/03/2015 12:01 PM, Quartz wrote: > > > Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped > > > on > > > a different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a > > > > > > live linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility > > > it's > > > just up and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD > > > at > > > all. > > I second Quartz's suggestion. > > Just download a live linux cd, such as: > > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014 > > -09-15-EN.iso > > > > along with checksum files: > > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014 > > -09-15-EN.iso.md5 > > > > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014 > > -09-15-EN.iso.sha1 > > > > > > Once you burn it to dvd, boot it, and use the gui to launch a > > terminal > > (icon for it is at bottom left bar). > > > My burner can no longer burn dvds only plain cds. Arch Linux still fits on a 700MiB CD. https://www.archlinux.org/download/ The CD boots into a live environment as root. so you can skip: > > then you run > > su - > > And start here: > > then you insert the usb stick. > > Assuming there is only one HD in the machine, the stick will be > > named /dev/sdb If more than one HD in the machine, say 4 HD (sda, > > sdb, sdc, sdd), then > > the stick will be sde. > > > > Run > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1M > > where ? is b or c or d ...etc depending on how many HD's you have > > in > > the system. > > You do not need to specify the count, because dd will stop when the > > > > stick is full of > > zeros. > > > > Once done, unplug the stick, and reinsert it. > > > > then run the command fdisk /dev/sd? (? as explained above) > > > > create 1 partition. > > set it's type to whatever you want. I usually use the letter c as > > the > > type > > to mean fat lba. > > > > To finish, type the command w to the fdisk session > > and you are done. > > > > Now type fdisk -l /dev/sd? > > > > and you will see the drive has 1 partition. > > > > now create a filesystem on your drive: > > > > mkfs -t vfat /dev/sd?1 (again ? as explained above). > > > > type the command > > reboot > > and the dvd drive will get ejected. > > press the return key to boot into your normal HD. > > > > > > The stick is now useable and mountable. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:08:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA0E9B2567 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6AAA365 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BDC823738; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:08:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t73N8eg4002366; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:08:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:08:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. Message-Id: <20150804010840.3f2d5fe7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:08:50 -0000 On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:51:45 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 20:18, jd1008 wrote: > > > > On 08/03/2015 12:01 PM, Quartz wrote: > >> Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on > >> a different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a > >> live linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's > >> just up and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at > >> all. > > I second Quartz's suggestion. > > Just download a live linux cd, such as: > > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso > > > > along with checksum files: > > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.md5 > > > > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.sha1 > > > > > > Once you burn it to dvd, boot it, and use the gui to launch a terminal > > (icon for it is at bottom left bar). > > > My burner can no longer burn dvds only plain cds. In this case, might I suggest trying UBCD? As the name suggests, it's a CD, and it also has Linux partitioning tools. You can find the download here: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html It is a _very_ handy tool for diagnostics and repair. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:09:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E519B2607 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DDA169B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t73N9pb2060912 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:09:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55BFF4BF.6040203@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 01:09:51 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> <55BF9817.4070409@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9954.2020005@gmail.com> <55BF9F26.8030003@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9FE3.3030606@gmail.com> <55BFA0BB.5080704@bananmonarki.se> <573761DA-A954-424A-998D-AD59204D4D79@kraus-haus.org> In-Reply-To: <573761DA-A954-424A-998D-AD59204D4D79@kraus-haus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:09:54 -0000 On 2015-08-03 19:19, Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 3, 2015, at 13:11, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> On 2015-08-03 19:07, jd1008 wrote: >>> OK, so in your installation what do you see in /dev as far as disk devices that are raw >>> (i.e. their name starts with r)? >> None. >> >> On FreeBSD, all block devices are in fact raw devices. Support for non-raw devices was removed in FreeBSD 4.0 in order to simplify buffer management and increase scalability and performance. > An ls -l on my 10.1-RELEASE-p10 systems shows disk devices as character special (“raw”) and does not show any block special devices. > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x76 Jul 21 10:30 ada0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7a Jul 21 10:30 ada1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x89 Jul 21 10:30 ada1p1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x8b Jul 21 10:30 ada1p2 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x8d Jul 21 10:30 ada1p3 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7c Jul 21 10:30 ada2 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x90 Jul 21 10:30 ada2p1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x92 Jul 21 10:30 ada2p2 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x94 Jul 21 10:30 ada2p3 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7e Jul 21 10:30 ada3 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x80 Jul 21 10:30 ada4 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x82 Jul 21 10:30 ada5 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x84 Jul 21 10:30 ada6 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x86 Jul 21 10:30 ada7 > > No SCSI (da) devices on this system Mine shows this ls -l /dev/ad* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0 -> ada5 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0s1 -> ada5s1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0s1a -> ada5s1a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0s1b -> ada5s1b lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 3 Aug 15:13 /dev/ad0s1b.eli -> ada5s1b.eli lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0s1d -> ada5s1d lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0s1e -> ada5s1e lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0s1f -> ada5s1f lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad0s1g -> ada5s1g lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad1 -> ada6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad10 -> ada1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad12 -> ada2 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad14 -> ada3 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad14e -> ada3e lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad16 -> ada4 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad16e -> ada4e lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad1e -> ada6e lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad2 -> ada7 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 3 Aug 15:13 /dev/ad2.eli -> ada7.eli lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad3 -> ada8 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad3s1 -> ada8s1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad3s2 -> ada8s2 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad3s3 -> ada8s3 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad3s3d -> ada8s3d lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ad4 -> ada0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x6e 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x71 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x73 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x75 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x84 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada3e crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x77 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada4 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x87 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada4e crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x79 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada5 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x8a 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada5s1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x9e 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada5s1a crw-r----- 1 root operator 0xa0 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada5s1b crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x91 3 Aug 15:13 /dev/ada5s1b.eli crw-r----- 1 root operator 0xa2 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada5s1d crw-r----- 1 root operator 0xa4 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada5s1e crw-r----- 1 root operator 0xa6 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada5s1f crw-r----- 1 root operator 0xa8 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada5s1g crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7b 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada6 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x8f 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada6e crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7d 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada7 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0xdc 3 Aug 15:13 /dev/ada7.eli crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7f 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada8 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x93 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada8s1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x95 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada8s2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x97 3 Aug 13:12 /dev/ada8s3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0xb2 3 Aug 15:12 /dev/ada8s3d From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:30:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFB19B2A5F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x234.google.com (mail-ig0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA7A8E2C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iggf3 with SMTP id f3so533011igg.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:30:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MhLRJmrw5xhWv/VfA9HjgM36oR+Oo1ykrHGz7lxefdI=; b=Ar/KK6EBeS383n2MomoH8GpI8ktTKKfTlgOE8wCRORi7ehYMcHqNqIROU2I95rR8Tm PrvJFoTTTVSOFR42P+yX2weTLxHdWoM19Vto5HhHEHCvja07G06a4iEgnKRkmt3JZ7oJ ck6iAPOyAkqImMfSIIslHdSBUFZ2A6CsR3wkOUIVYGBsB7co08nMP66eDuOaE2ubrrFK 0FK77w+2CHiRsqEW8QzXaTf9DWZxMR2nYPMdNRnmZJnA5McWcVKG3UINZhhrRa394kbn +pbYFbWZbCfTNB+oB4MyIOKAQwo4ifZaNPCFf/1/+p7t78ZkQ9Curkd/PsI44CQkItPz q1ng== X-Received: by 10.50.97.33 with SMTP id dx1mr23313947igb.1.1438644617271; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 38sm69797ior.17.2015.08.03.16.30.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BFF992.6010309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:30:26 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <20150804003056.094ffc57.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150804003056.094ffc57.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:30:18 -0000 On 08/03/2015 04:30 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:20:32 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> Is it possible to make it pristine again or is it forever lost? > What about the Q&D way of > > # newfs /dev/da1 > > to initialize a new UFS file system (without slicing and/or > partitioning, no matter if MBR or GPT) and then simply try > > # mount -t ufs /dev/da1 /mnt > > and check if it works? > > Keep in mind you can - after you've verified this works - > use tunefs to optimize UFS for use on USB sticks (optimization > selection for speed or space, reserved space, and consider > mount options like async/noasync or atime/noatime, depending > on your intended use). > > See "man newfs", "man tunefs" and "man mount" for details. > > > > Since a CD or DVD iso was dd'ed to this stick, OS thinks it IS an optical ROM device - and thus not writable. Same issue happened to me and fixed the stick by using a linux pc to dd /dev/zero into the stick. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:36:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549D99B2C10 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 340271195 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D8583F70D; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:36:05 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:36:08 -0000 >> Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on a >> different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a live >> linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's just up >> and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at all. >> > Well. That didn't work when it was new. So i'm not sure it's going to > work now. ... wait.... you've *never* been able to dd to this drive on any machine? How does that work? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:39:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D1E9B2CD6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x236.google.com (mail-io0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F40613A4 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by ioea135 with SMTP id a135so961608ioe.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:39:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JgudzTSno+Hb3cRP/4k9b5ShL6kWq5ZSkF9zklyRwcU=; b=fZNFn+TU+p2tn5udI770J6vrex4ek/OeSaKigljGWX1VgJAdxS1FRpnp9qk8tpWXYj C1bFiWchiYo/h2uoKAM3grEJP16a9pewEGIl+g6G1FjGAqteMfm8wrR7mzBoiUXtbOW7 v06RaCyXSJXKrpcE3fy66LpeGC5kqt6Y+vuaWVQic5YQMDnwbTZ56+Y1fv0T7YNPCjZo rHdDbQLipNqMldE/s+2uHusEDI3j5vnViHwRTvUKWOdR5Ya1D+xO6TaLfE//SYUYFTo0 qZqoKzUoEWK+nJc76RBg6fHltHcu1zY4uvaXFAa43XJbI4eV1akXnflJxTMt+gj/H1yN Mp3w== X-Received: by 10.107.47.197 with SMTP id v66mr616355iov.30.1438645160913; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i123sm91031ioi.13.2015.08.03.16.39.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55BFFBB1.1090808@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:39:29 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:39:21 -0000 On 08/03/2015 04:51 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-03 20:18, jd1008 wrote: >> >> On 08/03/2015 12:01 PM, Quartz wrote: >>> Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on >>> a different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a >>> live linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's >>> just up and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at >>> all. >> I second Quartz's suggestion. >> Just download a live linux cd, such as: >> http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso >> >> along with checksum files: >> http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.md5 >> >> http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso.sha1 >> >> >> Once you burn it to dvd, boot it, and use the gui to launch a >> terminal (icon for it is at bottom left bar). >> > My burner can no longer burn dvds only plain cds. OK, then here is the link to the CD version of the live Linux: http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso and the checksums: http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso.md5 http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso.sha1 >> then you run >> su - >> >> then you insert the usb stick. >> Assuming there is only one HD in the machine, the stick will be >> named /dev/sdb If more than one HD in the machine, say 4 HD (sda, >> sdb, sdc, sdd), then >> the stick will be sde. >> >> Run >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1M >> where ? is b or c or d ...etc depending on how many HD's you have in >> the system. >> You do not need to specify the count, because dd will stop when the >> stick is full of >> zeros. >> >> Once done, unplug the stick, and reinsert it. >> >> then run the command fdisk /dev/sd? (? as explained above) >> >> create 1 partition. >> set it's type to whatever you want. I usually use the letter c as the >> type >> to mean fat lba. >> >> To finish, type the command w to the fdisk session >> and you are done. >> >> Now type fdisk -l /dev/sd? >> >> and you will see the drive has 1 partition. >> >> now create a filesystem on your drive: >> >> mkfs -t vfat /dev/sd?1 (again ? as explained above). >> >> type the command >> reboot >> and the dvd drive will get ejected. >> press the return key to boot into your normal HD. >> >> >> The stick is now useable and mountable. >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:42:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA299B2E7E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 941EC16CE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0D7D3CC07; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:41:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t73Nfxwr002504; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:41:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:41:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jd1008 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. Message-Id: <20150804014159.33ed75f0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55BFF992.6010309@gmail.com> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <20150804003056.094ffc57.freebsd@edvax.de> <55BFF992.6010309@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:42:02 -0000 On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:30:26 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > Since a CD or DVD iso was dd'ed to this stick, > OS thinks it IS an optical ROM device - and thus > not writable. Nah... that sounds stupid... :-) To the OS, the USB stick is represented as a direct access ("da") media without "implicit" write protection. That's why it should be possible to write to the _device_ - keep in mind the device is agnostic of the file system (which is something happening at a "higher level"). Optical devices are usually controlled by the "cd" driver which also doesn't have an "implicit" understanding of write protection. The fact that a media cannot be written to can originate from (basically) two reasons: a) The media (CD, DVD) cannot be written to, because it physically does not allow it. b) The drive cannot write, because it doesn't have that capability. The same applies to "da" type media, but is much less common due to the nature of the _actual_ media in use in such devices. However, in today's USB sticks, there's much more "firmware magic" than in a CD/DVD writer. In fact, there's a whole computer inside, and it _might_ be possible that the controller is somehow "clever" and refuses writing as it has "learned" that it holds a CD image. Additionally, the firmware can be programmed, and it can be programmed to represent to the system not as a "da" device as you would assume, but as a "cd" device instead. You sometimes find this behaviour in USB sticks that need "drivers" to operate (usually found in "Windows" land): If inserted, it poses as a CD drive, urging you to install the drivers that _then_ tell the PC to turn the USB stick into its "normal" mode. There are also WLAN or UMTS dongles that use a similar mechanism to offer its drivers "per USB CD" to the PC, but those usually don't have the ability to be used as a normal USB stick (for storage). > Same issue happened to me and fixed the stick > by using a linux pc to dd /dev/zero into the stick. That should work - except, of course, the USB stick has been "bricked" and cannot be written to anymore. This may sound stupid as well, but it's possible, as explained. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:42:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F329B2E93 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93513187E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AACBD3F70D; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFFC54.2070100@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:42:12 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:42:13 -0000 > My burner can no longer burn dvds only plain cds. Is your machine modern enough to support usb boot? You could download the memstick image version of a distro and do it that way. Of course, this assumes that your FreeBSD setup isn't totally borked in a way that just breaks dd. Actually, that's another sanity test you should run: can you dd other usb sticks? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:44:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149F29B2FA2 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB7DF19CF for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7C3F3F70E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFFCCA.5050307@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:44:10 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <20150804003056.094ffc57.freebsd@edvax.de> <55BFF992.6010309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BFF992.6010309@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:44:12 -0000 > Since a CD or DVD iso was dd'ed to this stick, > OS thinks it IS an optical ROM device - and thus > not writable. > Same issue happened to me and fixed the stick > by using a linux pc to dd /dev/zero into the stick. I'm not convinced that's his problem. Usually when that happens you get permission errors, not i/o errors. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 23:50:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955599B2093 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7344A1B04 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A03D3F714 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55BFFE3D.5090900@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:50:21 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> <20150804010840.3f2d5fe7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150804010840.3f2d5fe7.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:50:23 -0000 > In this case, might I suggest trying UBCD? > It is a _very_ handy tool for diagnostics and repair. I'll second this. Everyone should have a copy of ubcd kicking around, it's super helpful. Just last week I had to use it to install Win7 on an older machine where the dvd drive for some reason couldn't boot the dvd natively because it couldn't handle 7's dvd boot loader. Using ubcd I could boot from an external usb cd drive and manually pass control over to the dvd after the fact. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 00:00:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DCD9B24D3 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89EA81EAB for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F2D13F712 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C0009F.9030606@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:00:31 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFBB1.1090808@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55BFFBB1.1090808@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:00:32 -0000 >> My burner can no longer burn dvds only plain cds. > OK, then here is the link to the CD version of the live Linux: > > http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso > > and the checksums: > http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso.md5 > > http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso.sha1 Umm..... you just posted the exact same dvd links from your last message. (???) Anyway, Knoppix is a little quirky at times. He might be better off trying Ubuntu Server or Debian or something. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 00:08:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499549B276A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2310A273 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 326C83F712 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C00270.4090904@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:08:16 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFBB1.1090808@gmail.com> <55C0009F.9030606@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55C0009F.9030606@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:08:18 -0000 > Anyway, Knoppix is a little quirky at times. He might be better off > trying Ubuntu Server or Debian or something. A better way of wording this: Although Knoppix is designed and intended to be a full version of linux that can be run off a cd, it pulls a couple strings to make that happen and so some things have issues. He doesn't need a full running distro complete with gui just to dd a usb drive though, he can just boot an installer and drop into shell/rescue mode. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 00:10:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE2B9B283E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C66D689 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA3D03F712 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C00304.4050003@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:10:44 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFBB1.1090808@gmail.com> <55C0009F.9030606@sneakertech.com> <55C00270.4090904@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55C00270.4090904@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:10:46 -0000 >> Anyway, Knoppix is a little quirky at times. He might be better off >> trying Ubuntu Server or Debian or something. > > A better way of wording this: > > Although Knoppix is designed and intended to be a full version of linux > that can be run off a cd, it pulls a couple strings to make that happen > and so some things have issues. He doesn't need a full running distro > complete with gui just to dd a usb drive though, he can just boot an > installer and drop into shell/rescue mode. And of course this entire discussion is assuming he only has a single computer available to him, which is probably unlikely. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 00:25:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067369B2CEB for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB43F10FE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 663C83F712; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C0067A.80000@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:25:30 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFBB1.1090808@gmail.com> <55C0009F.9030606@sneakertech.com> <55C00270.4090904@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55C00270.4090904@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:25:33 -0000 On second thought, you should ignore all these suggestions and use GParted Live: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php It's specifically built for disk partitioning, formatting, and recovery. It will have every tool you could need, including memtest and SMART which might be worth running just to rule out hardware issues. I use it several times a week to check one thing or another, it's so second nature I almost forgot it existed. Anyway, I'll stop spamming the list now. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 00:27:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA679B2D67 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 206081305 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t740Rbka062638; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 02:27:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 02:27:37 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quartz CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:27:41 -0000 On 2015-08-04 01:36, Quartz wrote: >>> Can you do a quick sanity check and see if the stick can be wiped on a >>> different machine? Or perhaps the same machine by booting off a live >>> linux cd. Being on old flash drive there's a possibility it's just up >>> and died due to wear and the problem isn't due to FreeBSD at all. >>> >> Well. That didn't work when it was new. So i'm not sure it's going to >> work now. > > ... wait.... you've *never* been able to dd to this drive on any > machine? How does that work? > > > Well. Once, it was that cd image that i don't remember what it was 5-6 years ago. That usb stick is now in the bin. Took a SD card, and it booted linux cnc well and working. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 00:33:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4949B2F7A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 205EF187E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t740XFa4062766 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 02:33:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 02:33:15 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:33:19 -0000 On 2015-08-03 15:20, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list. > > > Have an old usbstick that i bought 5-6 years ago it's a datatraveler 150. > > I used dd to transfer a cd image to it and now i can't "clean" it of > the stick. > > Tried dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1 bs=1m count=100 but dd just > taunting me with this: > > dd: /dev/da1: Input/output error > 1+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 65.558710 secs (0 bytes/sec) > > After that the led on the stick flashes like it is writing. But i > don't know if it is writing. > > Is it possible to make it pristine again or is it forever lost? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 00:48:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EF39B123D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEE601C07 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by ioeg141 with SMTP id g141so2056409ioe.3 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:48:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mSRhHEovu0HkqnmPEj58adgJYVmh9izrJ4hQTdGWb6E=; b=1Dl0jtJjItCYbt5MYlae2atUd873vUAmsGq9ZJXu3xusJRZbQgWGKWPi01eRzixJHI DXObBkOFzyC4XfSp89cCdDdoZk+IkVgLIG6p1zbW+jKzOolODNM2eShBIx0HggtjdcwJ wGTzDgqDMTbp4RdD3yIge5O7VOx1222XJQCSm3pF9uToxn6piK53SSjbRyslKO1Z8265 TGuBNiz04hLOmA1atC22eFGMsvtYpoDON9KLckRnwEIyE3s5Fa5pzK2Ka02i4RvTA/LD cx9MPYhLf2fhx2Y0ZuTYwqmcdm7hbV1LXD8mYryCnxgQFjlDeqzlxla6kl6ot6FkY27Z qPDQ== X-Received: by 10.107.169.10 with SMTP id s10mr731555ioe.138.1438649296732; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k19sm210391iok.20.2015.08.03.17.48.15 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55C00BD9.6000402@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:48:25 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFB064.60507@gmail.com> <55BFF081.5050703@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFBB1.1090808@gmail.com> <55C0009F.9030606@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55C0009F.9030606@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:48:18 -0000 My eyes get worse by the day :( It turns out that Knoppix 7.4.2 is no longer available on CD, so here is an older version, which will still work just as well for the purpose at hand http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/ADRIANE-KNOPPIX_V7.2.0gCD-2013-07-28-EN.iso Checksums http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/ADRIANE-KNOPPIX_V7.2.0gCD-2013-07-28-EN.iso.md5 http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/ADRIANE-KNOPPIX_V7.2.0gCD-2013-07-28-EN.iso.sha1 On 08/03/2015 06:00 PM, Quartz wrote: > >>> My burner can no longer burn dvds only plain cds. >> OK, then here is the link to the CD version of the live Linux: >> >> http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso >> >> >> and the checksums: >> http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso.md5 >> >> >> http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/CD/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso.sha1 >> > > Umm..... you just posted the exact same dvd links from your last > message. (???) > > Anyway, Knoppix is a little quirky at times. He might be better off > trying Ubuntu Server or Debian or something. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 03:11:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C02D9B26FE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 03:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 422771EF1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 03:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFFFE7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:11:12 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O5R27b9rTwH5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:11:11 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.1.52] (106-68-19-145.dyn.iinet.net.au [106.68.19.145]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2AFA9D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:11:11 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <55C02D4E.1080907@calorieking.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:11:10 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Binary upgrade from 8.4 to 10.1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:11:22 -0000 Hi Paul, On 04/08/15 05:17, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I want to upgrade from FreeBSD 8.4 RElEASE to FreeBSD 10.1 RELEASE using > FreeBSD update. I can't provide documentation or any certainty that it will work the same for you as me, but I guess you might consider this a proof of concept. Last month I upgraded a dozen or so FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE amd64 machines to FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE amd64 with this process, all run as root: freebsd-update fetch install freebsd-update -r 10.1-RELEASE upgrade # Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y # manual intervention for diffs etc freebsd-update install reboot freebsd-update install # Because ECDSA key wasn't present: ssh-keygen -Av pkg install -yf pkg pkg install $(pkg info -aoq) freebsd-update install freebsd-update fetch install # new shared objects made cron stop working until after a restart # reboot would be more drastic but would fix any other similar issues service cron restart tail -F /var/log/auth.log /var/log/messages /var/log/cron ---- I had a critical failure on one hosted machine. SATA cables turned out to be faulty, and the upgrade wrote some files successfully but not others, leaving the machine in an unbootable state. High-latency console access is the last straw, causing me to give up and rebuild the machine. I don't blame FreeBSD for this (nor any OS which can't beat this problem!), but mention it as a(n albeit unlikely) possibility to consider. HTH, Greg. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 06:44:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD47B9B3188 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 06:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 950981BFF for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 06:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 049483CC5E; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 08:44:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t746i2Y8002521; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 08:44:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 08:44:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. Message-Id: <20150804084402.941e19ca.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 06:44:07 -0000 On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 02:27:37 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > That usb stick is now in the bin. Took a SD card, and it booted linux > cnc well and working. That's probably the only answer to "Input/output error". :-) root@testbox:~ # newfs /dev/da1 /dev/da1: 65536.0MB (134217728 sectors) block size 32768, fragment size 4096 using 105 cylinder groups of 626.09MB, 20035 blks, 80256 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at: newfs: wtfs: 131072 bytes at sector 192: Input/output error And it's not that USB sticks are luxury goods... maybe the device really is "bricked" or broken. USB sticks are not made to last forever. That's what paperwork has been invented for. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 07:13:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5DC9B36FA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 166EFA53 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ECCF73F71D; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 03:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C06621.5010704@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:13:37 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> <20150804084402.941e19ca.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150804084402.941e19ca.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 07:13:47 -0000 Trashed stick or not, you should still download copies of UBCD and GParted though :) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 07:17:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DA29B385E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EAF9C2E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [82.113.106.30] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMWTn-0000io-Bz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:17:43 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t747HgfW035785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:17:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t747Hg36035784 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:17:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:17:42 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkg installation && adduser Message-ID: <20150804071742.GA35753@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.106.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 07:17:50 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to understand how the package command creates users during the installation of packages, for example the dbus-1.8.8.txz does not contain any file or script for creating the groups and user 'messagebus'. How this is done during 'pkg install dbus'. When I look into the port's work directory ther is in .metadir: # ls work/.metadir/ +DESC +MANIFEST +MTREE_DIRS +PRE_INSTALL the file +PRE_INSTALL which does this: # cat work/.metadir/+PRE_INSTALL echo "===> Creating users and/or groups." if ! /usr/sbin/pw groupshow messagebus >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo "Creating group 'messagebus' with gid '556'." ... but this is not packaged into the package itself: # tar tzf work/pkg/dbus-1.8.8.txz | fgrep + +COMPACT_MANIFEST +MANIFEST Can someone help me with this? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 No! Nein! ¡No! Όχι! -- ΕυχαÏιστοÏμε! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 09:18:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA6D9B374D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BFD4BB8 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t749IPDr074522; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:18:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55C08361.6080802@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:18:25 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quartz CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> <20150804084402.941e19ca.freebsd@edvax.de> <55C06621.5010704@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55C06621.5010704@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:18:32 -0000 On 2015-08-04 09:13, Quartz wrote: > Trashed stick or not, you should still download copies of UBCD and > GParted though :) Well, not now. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 10:41:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701E9B1DED for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADD81E36 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 29F329B1DEC; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC4C9B1DEB for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E198F1E34 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 41B44592AB9E; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 03:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:41:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:41:08 -0700 Message-ID: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: windows entry for grub2 User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_ix7KEumrh4tUYidWX-QnbE4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:41:15 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_ix7KEumrh4tUYidWX-QnbE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, This is a dual-boot system with Windows 10 and: 10.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD home-desktop.parts-unknown.org 10.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD=20=20 10.2-PRERELEASE=20#0 r285868: Fri Jul 24 22:02:24 PDT 2015=20=20=20=20=20= =20 root@home-desktop.parts-unknown.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC=20 amd64 Unfortunately, in the process of figuring out how to get grub=20=20 installed,=20I blew away my EFI partition. I've recreated it, but I lost=20= =20 the=20Windows EFI file and apparently on FreeBSD, grub won't autodetect=20= =20 Windows.=20Here is gpart show: home-desktop# gpart show =3D> 1 833023 cd0 MBR (1.6G) 1 3987 - free - (7.8M) 3988 34560 2 !239 (68M) 38548 794476 - free - (1.5G) =3D> 34 3907029101 ada0 GPT (1.8T) 34 2014 - free - (1.0M) 2048 1024000 1 bios-boot (500M) 1026048 81920 2 !796badd3-6bbf-4d9f-b631-466eb71a4965 (40= M) 1107968 262144 3 ms-reserved (128M) 1370112 1536000 4 !de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac (75= 0M) 2906112 971732992 5 ms-basic-data (463G) 974639104 921600 6 !de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac (45= 0M) 975560704 1600 7 efi (800K) 975562304 31455672 8 freebsd-ufs (15G) 1007017976 18874368 9 freebsd-swap (9.0G) 1025892344 50331648 10 freebsd-ufs (24G) 1076223992 234881024 11 freebsd-ufs (112G) 1311105016 2582419464 12 freebsd-ufs (1.2T) 3893524480 13502640 13 !de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac (6.= 4G) 3907027120 2015 - free - (1.0M) =3D> 1 833023 iso9660/Sabayon%20GNOME MBR (1.6G) 1 3987 - free - (7.8M) 3988 34560 2 !239 (68M) 38548 794476 - free - (1.5G) Windows lives on ada0p5. The EFI partition, presently marked so=20=20 grub-install=20will write to it, is /dev/ada0p1. What is the incantation=20= =20 for=20telling grub2 to do Windows? Thanks! --=20 David=20Benfell --=_ix7KEumrh4tUYidWX-QnbE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwJbEAAoJEBV64x4SNmArM9kP/RK71OQ4GyUf7nPgMgr1hLZB Z8skPx5YXuf99ByFvkno2tt9goQM+Y11U8DjUmX17Wl91yggusExIrMZZlphJOSw uKwaxLVbV7CpuI2a8QS+RcRihfm3oX4GtdSnr3/3OZmpSTGWrPFYy0ucyqJXkT2B Y6/32TJjDPyoixyUWvxzlY51Ou+jdXBIIcXHwki6Jzjpuukx28UEMZYOD95DxYVF 4SY5qNUqn0CcFX9YT6eVO1CVnrzchnlrM7YEy8wdlr1lGe+S4sN4g3OQBwwsnHN3 Co/Gkbv5cETMChwyIB9aPTqx7gYu73lKAbR7Ke2sTYsMNUguD4Qod6a3Mzn2XwHB TDdPjM5fqr6I68kymqnaZvdln14sM2grm9G/1lHSZvUI3B4cSiVYsUzLA0a0lTGa awJlWTxJp1DoO69G2Fm1j8NvNZEUGu1Cx7A/mP6d3zpwhtEzsexYTpgZ74bAYbAZ vhkigKtDy28CIXPb2KFOcCfMy1wgDG3AcP4xB6lrid2Rghu+PoUOevM3w7vYQCSM 5ekapFzs8SC8RNSCG9RU2Bsljw76uAYECEbyw9BgIvjecCSfILcQYjKzsjY21Vzx JWcp5qIZG/Xaxs1266IhCUKuz5MwN9LsrOlMvdi4iUnAq2xUp1OSu9FTveQbi+uT SoA5mItI/KxGa+sTDosq =peHZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_ix7KEumrh4tUYidWX-QnbE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 10:52:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811979B21C8 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DDED9C0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by wibxm9 with SMTP id xm9so18197253wib.1 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DJabkA3Lw/OsbIjp5m/G8j+4LS/T9O1CgtMdRJ9izAs=; b=ecq5iZKcwOqn9KiUlZ1BQG/840HP5wiQaAbWaELbUmQ0S/Va2OTN1pHe5LxPGMmD+R N0hH5DXrPZWCs+qTJN/r4Rp6GkbWR5MGE/5QknNU3xQIZ79KnrIqz4SeO9Rj+mL+CfRm 4oJLcPiE+DaRDQx0cOpa216eDfSfRPqsKzjgbdHmyShEVGcrnfJcMRu57jHrp/HUaOym LENivgaTDwqzU9vsKS3HiIH+JaPlRbmpfx9htVODqMixAEP3udBXZ+UA60/6Hu5BLeJ1 TkWtuL2B9Viipf5JLB6mMSKc1DnLjrrhGxEVFYUZy/2m77xukPGf6ybSOJJqAepDlqgw nq1w== X-Received: by 10.194.179.136 with SMTP id dg8mr6421780wjc.49.1438685533767; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.195.212.243]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ft5sm1735450wib.4.2015.08.04.03.52.11 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:51:20 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" Message-ID: <20150804115120.602f1f87@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:52:15 -0000 On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > Questions: > > 1. Why does "man getopts" not help me with "getopts"? > > Because getopts only exists as a shell built-in, not as a standalone > command. Maybe you were thinking of getopt(1). $ which getopts /usr/bin/getopts It is implemented in sh, but it does exist. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 11:06:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB659B2819 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C5F1362 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [88.151.27.41] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMa3K-0007u0-KN; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:06:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMa3J-000MBT-04; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:06:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:06:36 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: RW Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" Message-Id: <20150804120636.6727ccd13713c1c300d1e07e@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20150804115120.602f1f87@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20150804115120.602f1f87@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 24227@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:06:42 -0000 On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:51:20 +0100 RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:45:59 +0000 (UTC) > Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > > > Questions: > > > 1. Why does "man getopts" not help me with "getopts"? > > > > Because getopts only exists as a shell built-in, not as a standalone > > command. Maybe you were thinking of getopt(1). > > > $ which getopts > /usr/bin/getopts > > It is implemented in sh, but it does exist. However /usr/bin/getopts is linked to alias, bg, cd, command, fc, fg, hash, jobs, read, type, ulimit, umask, unalias and wait (all in /usr/bin). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 11:09:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9639B2937 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm14-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm14-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48C64147D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1438686443; bh=vHjv4k2FHkN86lmRCG34rRoO1JpVTkFV/S/LhXFaolo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=qeReynYsJxM4Mkosw23wcYSdZsD3sTBuHXuA1IPpmCBeahs8Fs8uKeLY0x4HivooGPZlXRhQQJ6gnBtXQONRO8RZXrUFa+ns1u0Qwp7pfIdB+G++hvLWN2ST6pUjao10irw1PsZcAuduPCU9zv2xEErYZDxVUYMZ7qwvfAZ979xo6KG85ETSqSprjN1eNcTpv+/+SLK2MZQP2nBcylJQvHQqrup0VIpNJEQrqDZl5hktdSyMmH35LMfx0C1PO/VHnTy7SbsTD2+9cVCvsGizwWL1ede5dZBtd/JmKiyReOKa3HuVuztYONq0jQp0qh3zS2JmSjcsVBxO4sGx2bq5wg== Received: from [212.82.98.63] by nm14.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2015 11:07:23 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.80] by tm16.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2015 11:07:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2015 11:07:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 488841.91416.bm@smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hBb_e_8VM1nMzuMj1QGSCMgPczr3Jot6O.QbY7oun64jclv 67zhUaYJOTlVKg1odaaTQvYXm7L9M2gq9Qv1KnGNPVEz3Y.c8UQme5n8NF6O dPF9m027rACB..BPZt80s0yx0tJ.xj5BfBNFmp9.i7OKwhK6ha.TXs1HbjPE Vb2Lake_SJYbrZnTBSDB.jipqHEMflhhnGnMyawkoVcDlshH6wGRGiUx4tOK 0h2PT484_PMFf4_zqeIKORAoRqMtWPFst.zKavsM9NwoMWYQJJHwnBizVyBA gUqobnW2pa3t4XmSlFZsrFyZLVtcF2lE4dNrJ8SmUedi_OzJ6EBdo9nMfn3w 1MVkmD.FLiWoJqry5SZGG4VJB8CUL0AB7Icj5awDzkkjZEGCdQF2Gb2EAvuZ qSgPafkgLgZqu4b9heEd9xpLeaHNgPMZXk1UPHsSUnmCQyqFxUEY_KxNemcK aIosOFIMhWLuzbP3uL8aQVEyji1z7H3O4KvWueTMX6LhoHof6VovO7TItrt_ nbNWDvMfnPtjnQMfSZ8F9g4Tt.Q_87Wkl X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:07:22 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 Message-ID: <20150804130722.3ffee235@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0-37-g8d1abd7 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:09:29 -0000 On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:41:08 -0700, David Benfell wrote: >Windows lives on ada0p5. The EFI partition, presently marked so >grub-install will write to it, is /dev/ada0p1. What is the >incantation for telling grub2 to do Windows? Perhaps menuentry "Win"{ set root=(hd0,5) chainloader +1 } This is how I edited my grub.cfg: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep -B3 -A2 chainloader /mnt/debi386/boot/grub/grub.cfg menuentry "FreeBSD"{ set root=(hd0,msdos1) chainloader +1 } menuentry "XP"{ set root=(hd1,1) drivemap -s hd0 hd1 chainloader +1 } [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ No EFI involved. Can't it be done this way? Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 11:20:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1C39B2FA7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm24-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm24-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBBC81C41 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1438687130; bh=2bZTqLEjzm/pJ5ysmk7rZi+Sa+smhtXACJUG4vV69Gk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=NZPkceooTO3NoUh0lxxq2qVRTCc82uPdH2jyGSOIKPCRwlyxHBNyoCySVLEUHB2I2w1Qz/6m4qHVr0LweKwCYCcvWKn1iTO6DYrILPjihvSNcgnvyswM5m0BaLI85rCRaJlUdpO/rKCQZHdkY01X631uBBvI5BfeRsmCih08BuUxICbXzloYy2n5yNiTVRkZEb3a0/synWzVrBxnnmYzyWLmMi+2ImH6UrG4BGaLGfpmn2eFksSIl7ZXyZKfr0B7gno3r82rXGSSschInyCFPy5VvF7Bupk8mJst1TtuUFCmpW7jG8LAYfYy7I+yQ+mCXDkgSKGvrYLT/racYpNYZQ== Received: from [212.82.98.58] by nm24.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2015 11:18:50 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.80] by tm11.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2015 11:18:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2015 11:18:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 211715.47437.bm@smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 4tTd8G0VM1n3Zs1rS3bB0AcM0z6.vsvcA_UDpYdRnphSmxW Je4_QsLlSswjfuRRqw7NnRxEU7SGRg0ukFPgod1Izwb77qYELfNDWE_o9ZDZ elQ5BDaegc4nvrdbMNuu_4Ee1lzjiRPvXPkTzGC6M3XnY7zLVLBx9xivkW_. h2jmj8bUAUYNs0j.lvAE08Y4F8vBDHLvt2YkybWtIFRlSF9Oh_aljUbNU1vn 7LrDrQRV2VBpQlrxumHvLSfTxoOEc4zOWaciskbz1tCMjzyqpoDa6Z9vl3AS co1bOvGLo6bTg3SKc4v1JznJmuDMkW1U2oy8O2llvN02Iy3Fkjo2zyDQxj1G IOkSG4jCbUmSRPUXB9i91_62dk4kAAFrA4Qk.lyIQOvKdCpVctv6cNnO7pdB UUxBGI35qikE4FjupOxxq5_20x79jZLyY30ZBlYLnJdhgJUisu5rGzzVkVq7 hCENRrxD.Y7nSa7gO9No3YfpWCI9c.f9Vd_Lx_JM.F.U_tl.uVHAOHylnWHf JG1wE7n4jrFYP_aEvVJ7rnNEjU15z8A3PxiK5ayw.n9d8lAp.zODNHDsAjUf sGBUo4axj X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:18:49 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 Message-ID: <20150804131849.6407b5c9@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20150804130722.3ffee235@archlinux> References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804130722.3ffee235@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0-37-g8d1abd7 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:20:56 -0000 On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:07:22 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:41:08 -0700, David Benfell wrote: >>Windows lives on ada0p5. The EFI partition, presently marked so >>grub-install will write to it, is /dev/ada0p1. What is the >>incantation for telling grub2 to do Windows? > >Perhaps > >menuentry "Win"{ > set root=(hd0,5) > chainloader +1 >} > > >This is how I edited my grub.cfg: > >[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep -B3 -A2 >chainloader /mnt/debi386/boot/grub/grub.cfg > >menuentry "FreeBSD"{ > set root=(hd0,msdos1) > chainloader +1 >} > >menuentry "XP"{ > set root=(hd1,1) > drivemap -s hd0 hd1 > chainloader +1 >} > >[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ > > >No EFI involved. > >Can't it be done this way? > >Regards, >Ralf Hahaha, sorry, I wasn't aware how trick this is, but there are at least tons of Linux howtos in the web, you'll get hits, even if your search term includes "freebsd" instead of "linux". Did you read those? It's likely more pleasant to run Windows in a VM ;). Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 11:41:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82099B3614 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A721981 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t74Bf7TF034219; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:41:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Getting value out of "man getopts" To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150804115120.602f1f87@gumby.homeunix.com> <20150804120636.6727ccd13713c1c300d1e07e@sohara.org> Cc: RW From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <55C0A4D3.90000@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:41:07 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150804120636.6727ccd13713c1c300d1e07e@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:41:18 -0000 On 04/08/2015 12:06, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:51:20 +0100 > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:45:59 +0000 (UTC) >> Christian Weisgerber wrote: >> >> >>>> Questions: >>>> 1. Why does "man getopts" not help me with "getopts"? >>> >>> Because getopts only exists as a shell built-in, not as a standalone >>> command. Maybe you were thinking of getopt(1). >> >> >> $ which getopts >> /usr/bin/getopts >> >> It is implemented in sh, but it does exist. > > However /usr/bin/getopts is linked to alias, bg, cd, command, fc, > fg, hash, jobs, read, type, ulimit, umask, unalias and wait (all > in /usr/bin). > And they're all the sh script #!/bin/sh # $FreeBSD: releng/10.1/usr.bin/alias/generic.sh 151635 2005-10-24 22:32:19Z cperciva $ # This file is in the public domain. builtin ${0##*/} ${1+"$@"} I.e. the /usr/bin external versions of sh builtins are simply exec(2)-able wrappers on the internal forms. The source is in /usr/src/usr.bin/alias if anyone's interested. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 12:36:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94BF9B1ADE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8899CB0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C58C99B1ADD; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51B79B1ADB for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x233.google.com (mail-la0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B91BCAC for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by labow3 with SMTP id ow3so6200514lab.1 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=iWRy4h6KLYtlrXhRmtvI7ue4ZPRLB53sonoAq7CQrwg=; b=jMNSy+LErBrSozOgF5RutjHZ5DG8Ja4BA+gqE0eHnDsSzlRJocUHHKyTixGXNzFD57 nTcodUFCu+nzasZ2OHCXMAGjnhPI0rJBVa9TSHiz+IXAQm4lW21KUcjig3CAI39v2BGO DYY+F1RfP0b6IeIeTAbzMDKBsjrV5tAAjyAYq4k9YxehLXAtdcQ0f4EgjWYtN202m4I1 oF8SXsUv292o18+/qeQBV+WIoXxBcQu38nixZvbuhwr4pcYh9tNZVUy3uJ1/DsuXN48R XuDlzKO1Hi9vi7XiksIQPctw8WsM9ltYiRgDgsu+YoSiedgGnlnjlgc+bWDd4uaHnt6l mPYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.30.4 with SMTP id o4mr3100160lah.74.1438691759400; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:35:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: u8zReVS1EpGw1bBxF_NiwAIBOyQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 From: CeDeROM To: David Benfell Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:36:02 -0000 Hello David :-) EFI is different than MBR/BIOS. I did not manage to boot Grub2/Linux on my new EFI machine. Only FreeBSD and Windows starts. So I select OS to boot directly from BIOS menu (or Boot Menu F8). Have you tried that to repair Windoze boot? Maybe booy CD? I can give you files fromWin7 EFI boot partition if that helps.. Best regards, Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 12:45:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44219B1E5F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89DE41132 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t74Cixh9008851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:45:05 -0500 Message-ID: <55C0B3CA.50909@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 07:51:13 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> <20150804084402.941e19ca.freebsd@edvax.de> <55C06621.5010704@sneakertech.com> <55C08361.6080802@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55C08361.6080802@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:45:07 -0000 On 08/04/15 04:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2015-08-04 09:13, Quartz wrote: >> Trashed stick or not, you should still download copies of UBCD and >> GParted though :) > Well, not now. If not now, when ? Those are both fabulous little toolkits to have at your disposal for the next time they're needed. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 12:49:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAD29B1F45 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3886135F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id DC7BD592AB87; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 05:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:49:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:49:48 -0700 Message-ID: <20150804054948.Horde.eTUxo9WEBbZWC3ekOhhgbya@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_-hsQ1vRZ5HCjuWA1DAH9JSs"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:49:49 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_-hsQ1vRZ5HCjuWA1DAH9JSs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting CeDeROM : > Hello David :-) > > EFI is different than MBR/BIOS. I did not manage to boot Grub2/Linux on m= y > new EFI machine. Only FreeBSD and Windows starts. > > So I select OS to boot directly from BIOS menu (or Boot Menu F8). Have yo= u > tried that to repair Windoze boot? Maybe booy CD? > > I can give you files fromWin7 EFI boot partition if that helps.. I have another Dell system locally. It still has Windows 8.1 on it,=20=20 but=20I can try those. In the meantime, this EFI partition is driving me=20= =20 nuts.=20All of a sudden I can't do *anything* with it. I will try again after some sleep. --=20 David=20Benfell --=_-hsQ1vRZ5HCjuWA1DAH9JSs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwLTsAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr2HcP/0zghD2AkYmc739KQq4IBeNN KyNNbkyI9b5mwsssf+8kHxuIJF1eK073rwxt4cnbWGaLuZ0MN7YdGJCwcZxDYms0 gNOVZVBavg6lg0PQuRWehQfpPD5aTofU4rto7MxAFW7TuesRXtjIGrVI64WvNEOr nr0ss74m1TzCiY9ZFWnVTKi688QLf5RZXTizio2COz9mPp69BQJf/N1RS7prkK7A ZryGNr/OStaXKGH+n1q/OvIv4tah1feIky+fqkRR0D0sG/Jr7M5NXYP7zUYSAKxD ZapSYq8+kuklHQbPNve6XRICSuM7UTuw5+qUMY5C9rRfu3TEuRKKZtjoqPQ2b4Qu gzQdWTv+kUvvo5evCPktVArqpehnm2g17TmKsgR77LRyrK25R414JFLjKfvk/8CK xbqBQzf+1VR20T0snwZcCCPuQjIU3+fKeFjMCoGXqWnw+LdnbhtLOIk983M+ahqS 1MYWH2dwiPIMZ7BwE8kCNNXluDyybZraDgrCoBzjrdoXNfInzkMdWBk+c2Hr7Xfh XeSLCB5N6vBNYEFNIfQg1XTpfDpDEPDzZkZrBGm6PSoarN9UdktMQzlBG5Xta8Lz X5uvo0KoqxvLsFTP842r7NCDKB7bY6FgIB/K9+YZfRTFXeAEoE8hpSCitOrEvZOj 0C7nISJo3dhLjjvpUyI2 =eOFv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_-hsQ1vRZ5HCjuWA1DAH9JSs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 13:08:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7349B23D5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thms.aurel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com (mail-wi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E6001DAD for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thms.aurel@gmail.com) Received: by wicgj17 with SMTP id gj17so149635905wic.1 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 06:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kDAlwTg/RAdOTYyy520Bl45KrTYcfHp88YR0x2UUg2w=; b=WnIzX1odrkDahPjreMkXOEaiEOQTaG9D1ydaiuHSbtZBXXVxjD9cNmOWMEd5hm1Y68 +ToRt1jLqoqAnVPjQTC7NpnjWNLP7XVsRgSkJj6y80QYFoEWzD3+JuAblMrp5CcYfnAa 5FnB9/RW/H40xMAiGny2KlUYQpYWaHbub5K3yjVUSrcoXlilp5YWV56Hd3ELboviZZTT myhcAroJbwddqe0nS0DYRCmTtwg2H8zYelwhiRXtkosk3mqKNWZbk3KtW3I6ZnOUmAzO f4MJpPMVOsmCDrzLbmAg9aeru2tX4diuMsNXKTUWuFjnApGBivN7IsCMVEf5Kjf/bMon l+1A== X-Received: by 10.180.39.163 with SMTP id q3mr8172258wik.82.1438693681860; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 06:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (213-245-68-157.rev.numericable.fr. [213.245.68.157]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id fq15sm1801039wjc.12.2015.08.04.06.07.58 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 06:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. To: jd1008 , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> From: Thomas AUREL Message-ID: <55C0B922.5080707@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:07:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:08:03 -0000 On 08/03/2015 05:26 PM, jd1008 wrote: > I thought that you need to > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 ....etc > > And be sure it is NOT mounted at all when you run the dd. > > Note that you must use the raw and not the block device. > > On 08/03/2015 07:20 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> Hello list. >> >> >> Have an old usbstick that i bought 5-6 years ago it's a datatraveler >> 150. >> >> I used dd to transfer a cd image to it and now i can't "clean" it of >> the stick. >> >> Tried dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1 bs=1m count=100 but dd just >> taunting me with this: >> >> dd: /dev/da1: Input/output error >> 1+0 records in >> 0+0 records out >> 0 bytes transferred in 65.558710 secs (0 bytes/sec) >> >> After that the led on the stick flashes like it is writing. But i >> don't know if it is writing. >> >> Is it possible to make it pristine again or is it forever lost? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> . >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 13:08:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2637D9B23EA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kab00m@lich.phys.spbu.ru) Received: from skeleton.phys.spbu.ru (skeleton.phys.spbu.ru [195.19.241.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D161DE5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kab00m@lich.phys.spbu.ru) Received: from skeleton.phys.spbu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skeleton.phys.spbu.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22218B68EC; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:59:32 +0400 (MSK) Received: from laura.ws.pu.ru (laura [172.27.209.137]) by skeleton.phys.spbu.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07BBB68E1; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:59:31 +0400 (MSK) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:59:31 +0300 From: Dima Veselov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: rsmith@xs4all.nl Subject: FreeBSD cross-update Message-ID: <20150804125931.GA21379@laura.ws.pu.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: St.Petersburg State University User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:08:12 -0000 Hello once more, I am really stuck in upgrading sparc64 boxes. I have amd64 build host and two sparc64 weak boxes. Crosscompilation is done good and world is ready to install, but I can't find ANY way to install it actually. My tries and the reasons it failed: 1. make installworld TO target through NFS fail because NFS doesn't support chflags and throw an error acessing to protected binaries. 2. syncing /usr/src and /usr/obj and running installworld ON target fail because /usr/obj has distribution binaries with buildhost architecture 3. building release and extracting it to target make me to resettle /etc and rebuild packages. Target sparc64 is working service and reinstalling is not the option. So - if there ANY way of updating or it was developed only for installing NEW machines, nor upgrading old ones? -- Sincerely yours From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 14:45:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769489B2F4B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4468A29A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t74EjOrE027079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:45:29 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: question about reported temperatures Message-ID: <55C0D003.6060703@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:50:53 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:45:32 -0000 .... I just did a full OS & pkg's upgrade after an unexpected power-burp which my UPS *didn't* handle (weak battery). During the subsequent reboots, I got output from healthd saying one of my cores was a bit warm @ 52 (presumably C). However, sysctl reports wildly different temps: [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:44:25am] 330 % !tai tail -50 /var/log/messages ; hwclock -r ; date Aug 4 08:23:53 kabini1 healthd: Started Aug 4 08:23:53 kabini1 dbus[849]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' (using servicehelper) Aug 4 08:23:53 kabini1 dbus[849]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' (using servicehelper) Aug 4 08:23:53 kabini1 dbus[849]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' Aug 4 08:23:53 kabini1 dbus[849]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' Aug 4 08:23:53 kabini1 console-kit-daemon[973]: WARNING: kvm_getenvv failed: Aug 4 08:23:54 kabini1 root: /etc/rc.d/sysctl: WARNING: sysctl dev.amdtemp.0.sensor_offset does not exist. Aug 4 08:23:54 kabini1 root: /etc/rc.d/sysctl: WARNING: sysctl dev.amdtemp.1.sensor_offset does not exist. Aug 4 08:23:54 kabini1 root: /etc/rc.d/sysctl: WARNING: sysctl dev.amdtemp.2.sensor_offset does not exist. Aug 4 08:23:54 kabini1 root: /etc/rc.d/sysctl: WARNING: sysctl dev.amdtemp.3.sensor_offset does not exist. Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 51.50 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 0.00 for CPU #0 Cooling Fan with a range of (1000.00 <= n <= 9999.00) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 0.00 for CPU #1 Cooling Fan with a range of (1000.00 <= n <= 9999.00) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 0.00 for Case Fan Cooling Fan with a range of (100.00 <= n <= 9999.00) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 2.61 for CPU #0 Core Voltage with a range of (1.95 <= n <= 2.05) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 3.78 for CPU #1 Core Voltage with a range of (1.95 <= n <= 2.05) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 5.70 for 5 Volt with a range of (4.75 <= n <= 5.25) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 5.47 for 12 Volt with a range of (10.80 <= n <= 13.20) Aug 4 08:23:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of -1.97 for -5 Volt with a range of (-5.50 <= n <= -4.50) Aug 4 08:24:12 kabini1 console-kit-daemon[973]: WARNING: Error waiting for native console 1 activation: Device not configured Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 53.50 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 0.00 for CPU #0 Cooling Fan with a range of (1000.00 <= n <= 9999.00) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 0.00 for CPU #1 Cooling Fan with a range of (1000.00 <= n <= 9999.00) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 0.00 for Case Fan Cooling Fan with a range of (100.00 <= n <= 9999.00) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 2.61 for CPU #0 Core Voltage with a range of (1.95 <= n <= 2.05) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 3.78 for CPU #1 Core Voltage with a range of (1.95 <= n <= 2.05) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 5.67 for 5 Volt with a range of (4.75 <= n <= 5.25) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of 5.47 for 12 Volt with a range of (10.80 <= n <= 13.20) Aug 4 08:24:13 kabini1 healthd: A value of -1.97 for -5 Volt with a range of (-5.50 <= n <= -4.50) Aug 4 08:24:22 kabini1 amd[785]: Unknown host: .Trash Aug 4 08:24:22 kabini1 amd[785]: Unknown host: .Trash-1110 Aug 4 08:24:23 kabini1 dbus[849]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.7" (uid=1110 pid=1169 comm="xfce4-session ") interface="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager" member="CanSuspend" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.1" (uid=0 pid=973 comm="/usr/local/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ") Aug 4 08:24:23 kabini1 dbus[849]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.7" (uid=1110 pid=1169 comm="xfce4-session ") interface="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager" member="CanHibernate" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.1" (uid=0 pid=973 comm="/usr/local/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ") Aug 4 13:29:16 RPiB+ rpi su: wam to root on /dev/pts/2 Aug 4 08:29:46 kabini1 healthd: A value of 52.50 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:30:04 kabini1 healthd: A value of 53.00 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:30:57 kabini1 su: wam to root on /dev/pts/7 Aug 4 08:31:34 kabini1 fsck: /dev/stripe/home_str: 1326011 files, 39236965 used, 881961467 free (61611 frags, 110237482 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) Aug 4 08:31:40 kabini1 su: wam to root on /dev/pts/9 Aug 4 08:32:25 kabini1 su: wam to root on /dev/pts/21 Aug 4 08:32:42 kabini1 su: wam to root on /dev/pts/23 Aug 4 08:32:58 kabini1 su: wam to root on /dev/pts/24 Aug 4 08:34:08 kabini1 su: wam to root on /dev/pts/8 Aug 4 08:34:41 kabini1 healthd: A value of 53.00 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:34:58 kabini1 healthd: A value of 52.50 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:36:31 kabini1 healthd: A value of 53.00 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:36:47 kabini1 healthd: A value of 52.50 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:37:21 kabini1 healthd: A value of 51.00 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:37:37 kabini1 healthd: A value of 53.00 for CPU #1 Temperature with a range of (10.00 <= n <= 50.00) Aug 4 08:38:03 kabini1 su: wam to root on /dev/pts/31 hwclock: Command not found. Tue Aug 4 08:44:27 MCDT 2015 [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:44:27am] 331 % hsys 74 7:23 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' 120 12:15 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' 146 7:23 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' 161 12:15 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' 209 9:37 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' 262 8:44 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' 323 8:44 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' 331 8:44 hsys [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:44:36am] 332 % !323 sysctl -A | egrep '(temperature|usage)' dev.cpu.0.temperature: 14.3C dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 11us dev.cpu.1.temperature: 14.3C dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 11us dev.cpu.2.temperature: 14.3C dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 18us dev.cpu.3.temperature: 14.3C dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 10us [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:44:40am] 333 % Why the difference ? Which values are thought to be right or more right ? TIA & have a good one. BTW: [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:03:21am] 333 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p21 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p21 #0: Tue Jul 28 09:02:48 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:03:24am] 334 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 15:14:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9149B3473 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F7781371 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t74FE0VZ058425 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:14:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t74FDxYb058422; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:14:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:13:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Paul Kraus cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. In-Reply-To: <30011532-52BE-4C42-B062-5D1212EBE655@kraus-haus.org> Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <30011532-52BE-4C42-B062-5D1212EBE655@kraus-haus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:14:00 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:14:02 -0000 On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:20, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Have an old usbstick that i bought 5-6 years ago it's a datatraveler 150. >> >> I used dd to transfer a cd image to it and now i can't "clean" it of the stick. >> >> Tried dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1 bs=1m count=100 but dd just taunting me with this: >> >> dd: /dev/da1: Input/output error >> 1+0 records in >> 0+0 records out >> 0 bytes transferred in 65.558710 secs (0 bytes/sec) > > I ran into this a bit ago with an SSD. Use gpart to add a partition map. > > gpart add gpt /dev/da1 Well, that particular combination of commands will not work. If the memory stick still works (they do go bad sometimes), the most likely reason that writing fails is due to GEOM preventing it to protect an existing partition table. gpart can be used to remove that. This is important, because if there was GPT partitioning, writing a new MBR does not remove the backup GPT table at the end of the disk. 'gpart destroy' will remove that. gpart destroy -F /dev/zzqxy1 Substitute the device name as needed, but make sure you have the right one, as that command will remove the partitions and the partitioning metadata. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 15:18:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167249B3554 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD7AC16A9 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t74FI3Qf059500 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:18:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t74FI3HF059497; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:18:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:18:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: jd1008 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. In-Reply-To: <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:18:03 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:18:05 -0000 On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, jd1008 wrote: > I thought that you need to > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 ....etc As far as I know, FreeBSD does not have "rda" devices. Using dd(1) to erase flash devices is generally not a good idea. It causes unnecessary wear to them and messes with TRIM. > And be sure it is NOT mounted at all when you run the dd. Right, that will just cause an error. > Note that you must use the raw and not the block device. On which version of FreeBSD are you finding these raw devices? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 15:20:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A899B36C8 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ADD219B5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t74FKnPr060228 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:20:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t74FKmRp060225; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:20:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:20:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: jd1008 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. In-Reply-To: <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> <55BF9024.6000409@gmail.com> <55BF9522.3@bananmonarki.se> <55BF964B.7080400@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:20:49 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:20:50 -0000 On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, jd1008 wrote: > On 08/03/2015 10:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2015-08-03 18:00, jd1008 wrote: >>> Are you invoking the command as root or regular user? >> >> As root. > If your installation cannot write to the raw device, then > it is either a bug or .....???? > > One thing that you have to be aware of is that if you > dd an iso image to a flash, then afterwards, the OS > will always assume it is a non-writable cdrom; that > is until you dd /dev/zero into the raw device while > it is not mounted. I have not ever had that experience. Of course, on FreeBSD we do not use the same images for USB memory sticks and CDs. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 15:21:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971599B36FC for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BEBA1A7C for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t74FLANY049642 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:21:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) To: freebsd-questions From: Mike Tancsa Subject: snmp daemon alternatives Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <55C0D850.1090403@sentex.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:20:48 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:21:11 -0000 Can anyone suggest any light weight snmp daemons for FreeBSD other than net-snmp and bsnmpd ? net-snmp seems like its getting a lot of bloat these days and currently the port has an unfixed security issue. I dont like bsnmp, as I cannot run it as a non root user (at least I could not, the last time I tried)... All I need is something that cacti can poll for traffic stats for the most part. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 15:24:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FC29B38A5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED3B91FFA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t74FO8CL061189 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:24:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t74FO85P061186; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:24:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:24:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Michael Powell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BF8824.9050803@gmail.com> <55BF8D65.6010404@bananmonarki.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:24:08 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:24:10 -0000 On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Michael Powell wrote: > Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> >> >> On 2015-08-03 17:26, jd1008 wrote: >>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 bs=1m count=10 >> >> dd: /dev/rda1: Operation not supported > > Does setting sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 (as root) make any difference? > Don't recall for sure if it's supposed to be 16 or 15, but I've used this > command before successfully to unlock. No. Please do not use that. It is a foot-shooting enabler. If there is a partitioning scheme on the disk, use 'gpart destroy' to correctly destroy it. If there is no partitioning scheme and the device still cannot be written, something else is wrong. Many USB devices need quirks to function properly, and that would be the next guess. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 15:36:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B0D9B3DA5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6049FE24 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t74FaSdR064384 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:36:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t74FaR3w064342; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:36:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:36:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Bernt Hansson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. In-Reply-To: <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:36:28 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:36:32 -0000 Okay. Just to review: When having trouble writing to a USB stick on FreeBSD, the first thing to suspect is old partition metadata. That can be removed with 'gpart destroy'. After that, suspect USB quirks and then hardware problems, in that order. Very little besides gpart(8) and dd(1) should be needed. Maybe usbconfig(8) for USB quirks. I have not found a Linux utility similar to gpart in capability and ease of use. Some Linux utilities can be useful, but don't reach for them until you have tried what is available in FreeBSD. And please be careful about applying Linux remedies in FreeBSD, because they are not identical systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 16:21:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2F39B2985 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 268591ED7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3DF173F6DF for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:21:28 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:21:36 -0000 > I have not found a Linux utility similar to gpart Umm.... you do know that linux has gpart too, right? Like, it's a standard part of most distros, and it's what GParted Live is based around? But ignoring that for the moment, there are a bunch of other programs that do all the same things in basically the same way. For example, "sgdisk -Z /dev/sda" and "gpart destroy /dev/sda" both nuke the partition information for a given disk. >Some Linux utilities can be useful, but don't reach for them > until you have tried what is available in FreeBSD. It's not like FreeBSD has some kind of monopoly GPT stuff or useful disk utilities, any other *nix OS has pretty much all the same tools. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 16:34:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A469B2E70 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A894C976 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A627F3F73B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C0E983.5000009@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:34:11 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about reported temperatures References: <55C0D003.6060703@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <55C0D003.6060703@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:34:14 -0000 >During the subsequent > reboots, I got output from healthd saying one of my cores was a bit warm > @ 52 (presumably C). However, sysctl reports wildly different temps: > Why the difference ? Which values are thought to be right or more right > ? TIA & have a good one. BTW: Back in June I asked a couple questions about hardware monitoring packages for reporting temps and fans speed and such. Towards the end of the thread you responded offhand that temp monitoring was quirky on your system: >> To expand a bit, mbmon & healthd seem to agree on (chipset ?) temp, as distinct from amdtemp. However both only report for 2 CPU's (cores ?), while amdtemp reports (wrongly, IMHO) for all 4 (in my case) .... If healthd &/or mbmon would report (accurately) for all 4 cores, I'd love them more :-) .... <<< Are you saying it's worse now, or something else changed...? (I obviously have no worthwhile input on this topic since I didn't even know half these programs existed two months ago, I'm just asking for details since I think you might've left out some important info specific to your setup). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 17:01:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4539B35CE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x231.google.com (mail-pa0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C85C77 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by padck2 with SMTP id ck2so13093277pad.0 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:01:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hwUTDpQFR2yQl3SlYIJLT52onzxtyJLAtRjEoK/P6jQ=; b=rOIAe36eGg31Qj8l31br3HKPS9dox3BAySamrNOyPNiDIu3AuDZUZ7AAPXeebIVgi2 g6QIBZZiYm53klD0xcFd+gkd2lKTgFqwro2Bjip3ZoFpr3TsYfiBrBk4xGgQ6zK8eUs8 AQP0M2Mbb360ub1bWNgsyq2xiYNJjz79E5Orrivfde58dtTyH7duhg8g26+j4nOE+3s+ VvLKrKQ6pPClnhKj38KHp9FpOMCoFghI6BQdWs2P/Mhxql6DJJZsc4JcT3w1sJanyjNP SGUTktI13phrJUodgs+BK1nujuUV3Bd8ofC8mrhLpOATQTHUosWoNWqobU0qJgV24e2N BRaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.142.131 with SMTP id rw3mr3179397pab.141.1438707683553; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.133.169 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:01:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. From: Adam Vande More To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:01:24 -0000 On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Quartz wrote: > I have not found a Linux utility similar to gpart >> > > Umm.... you do know that linux has gpart too, right? Like, it's a standard > part of most distros, and it's what GParted Live is based around? > gparted =! gpart && linux gpart =! FreeBSD gpart. > But ignoring that for the moment, there are a bunch of other programs that > do all the same things in basically the same way. For example, "sgdisk -Z > /dev/sda" and "gpart destroy /dev/sda" both nuke the partition information > for a given disk. > > > Some Linux utilities can be useful, but don't reach for them >> until you have tried what is available in FreeBSD. >> > > It's not like FreeBSD has some kind of monopoly GPT stuff or useful disk > utilities, any other *nix OS has pretty much all the same tools. Other OS's don't have tools to control GEOM which is needed for most of the more common classes. GEOM writes it's metadata at the end of the block dev for many things which also conflicts with GPT. This and other metadata conflict issues using either ufs or zfs based filesystems make gpart(8) not only the best tool, in many cases it's the only tool that can do it correctly short of a complete zeroing out of the block dev. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 17:24:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DDC9B3B2B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B98BFDD7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by obnw1 with SMTP id w1so12318510obn.3 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:24:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=EtUUsY3yyfz5eNkHmRtYbpj4So+GkciazdNdLa82Nbs=; b=ltYwx9kkszflNwJuoH+XfqhqPN64ys0XDw3W0TtLflt0KUz+qeFG47PYpsaJN3VwvJ AddMGgTgVGBTFq5fAgQA7GdIFGcf/fYyt1ig9lvnvKwq42r2P+SD2wtyWDQfwlo3FnSo smbbHknlRnVj+zFarlq9yhgPX+aEvMP15Dg/tXnhaQWGp1gYvZlqE+6qvp8Pn25JzFM9 HVhibj9pupBsx9oBqK5CQ12tjXydzBOdfEOBnBhqISQJ+x9jYdU42UJnUvQB5vKRG0kw BYJM8Q5NoKbt60F8BOiL20DOahA/ZLbTh1y1AHPiAtmfy3KbZ085F5bsrLqMb0iZa2yx u6Ng== X-Received: by 10.60.76.35 with SMTP id h3mr3978424oew.46.1438709074846; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (174-30-220-137.mpls.qwest.net. [174.30.220.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m5sm774106obx.13.2015.08.04.10.24.32 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:24:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Quartz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. In-reply-to: <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:24:31 -0500 Message-ID: <86vbcvt19s.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:24:42 -0000 Quartz writes: >> I have not found a Linux utility similar to gpart > > Umm.... you do know that linux has gpart too, right? Like, it's a > standard part of most distros, and it's what GParted Live is based around? GParted is the GTK+ graphical interface to GNU "parted" program. gpart(8) is the partition manager for the FreeBSD GEOM disk management framework. The two are only related insofar as they both partition disks. Typing "gpart" into a Linux console will get you nothing. The GParted Live CD is a minimal Debian system that comes with GParted and a handful of other utilities for system maintenance. Generally speaking, using a Linux utility to configure a disk for FreeBSD probably won't cause any problems, but since using a FreeBSD utility to manage a FreeBSD disk is all but certain to work, that's the way to go. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 17:31:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E109B3DF1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.fisglobal.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67C6C289 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpsa03.fnfis.com (8.15.0.59/8.15.0.59) with ESMTPS id t74HV87p030024 (version=TLSv1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:31:08 -0500 Received: from [10.242.182.122] (10.242.182.122) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.174.1; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: <55C0F6E7.8080603@fisglobal.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:31:19 -0700 From: "Robison, Dave" Reply-To: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804054948.Horde.eTUxo9WEBbZWC3ekOhhgbya@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20150804054948.Horde.eTUxo9WEBbZWC3ekOhhgbya@mail.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.242.182.122] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151, 1.0.33, 0.0.0000 definitions=2015-08-04_08:2015-08-04,2015-08-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:31:10 -0000 Here is my 40_custom file. I keep it in my homedir since it often gets overwritten during PCBSD updates. Put it into /usr/local/etc/grub.d/ and then run grub-mkconfig /boot/grub/grub.cfg "Works for me"(tm) [lefty] ~% cat 40_custom #!/bin/sh exec tail -n +3 $0 # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change # the 'exec tail' line above. menuentry "Windows 7" { insmod ntfs set root=(hd0,2) chainloader +1 } -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 17:39:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC9E9B3F25 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FBBA7C7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iggf3 with SMTP id f3so16215740igg.1 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ILG3XN6jJxrlPjPxaXNNx9tt/qmm283fgx5GZ7jzmRw=; b=G9zvADDs2n1BY/lrxy6XWw6I/ET/pyc6CV1PIuvse80m9ieDPcYmX0PzpWB5dkFZtk tfP1ADZvNNHWdj7IYeeDoCqKOv6/k/xtZy/i6+T8GNALKJ/mefbzzL7cgamx9w0DaxAW siSJuq3W0RHgkKKIjCO2CXyTwDNobZZxrletGpbPChHF34Fxn0Iq4KseYtypaAs5hoqC HmpiJusImYhJo8piZHCFg+y+UG5srEBcDOZyOQDu2NXjHqmvgD6VSQW9kHPsxEh0tpM9 a7Zs9ne/TYWfc5E46KtncU4809qJoiGrLaF625GJm1ky7aXCnngXFFE9OTolJqbFIDKC N3rg== X-Received: by 10.50.147.4 with SMTP id tg4mr459403igb.53.1438709947603; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h2sm1555789igy.10.2015.08.04.10.39.05 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55C0F8C4.904@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:39:16 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804054948.Horde.eTUxo9WEBbZWC3ekOhhgbya@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C0F6E7.8080603@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <55C0F6E7.8080603@fisglobal.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:39:08 -0000 On 08/04/2015 11:31 AM, Robison, Dave wrote: > Here is my 40_custom file. I keep it in my homedir since it often gets overwritten during PCBSD updates. > > Put it into /usr/local/etc/grub.d/ and then run > > grub-mkconfig /boot/grub/grub.cfg > > "Works for me"(tm) > > > > [lefty] ~% cat 40_custom > #!/bin/sh > exec tail -n +3 $0 > # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the > # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change > # the 'exec tail' line above. > menuentry "Windows 7" { > insmod ntfs > set root=(hd0,2) > chainloader +1 > } > > I checked the Linux menu entry for windows. It loads ntfs module and the module for msdos partitioning scheme. menuentry 'Microsoft Windows XP Professional (on /dev/sda1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-6FF7484D7DE32A09' { insmod part_msdos insmod ntfs set root='hd0,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 --hint='hd0,msdos1' 6FF7484D7DE32A09 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 6FF7484D7DE32A09 fi drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} chainloader +1 } From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 17:39:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CD09B3F46 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 284A282D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t74HdOTd094900 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:39:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t74HdOIY094897; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:39:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:39:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Quartz cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. In-Reply-To: <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:39:24 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:39:26 -0000 On Tue, 4 Aug 2015, Quartz wrote: >> I have not found a Linux utility similar to gpart > > Umm.... you do know that linux has gpart too, right? Like, it's a standard > part of most distros, and it's what GParted Live is based around? I thought GParted live was based around parted. Either way, having the same name does not mean they have the same capabilities or the same user interface. But no, I don't think there has been a gpart program on the Linux utility disks I use. For partitioning, they usually have two or three menu-based programs and cfdisk. > But ignoring that for the moment, there are a bunch of other programs that do > all the same things in basically the same way. For example, "sgdisk -Z > /dev/sda" and "gpart destroy /dev/sda" both nuke the partition information > for a given disk. Okay. Can you point me to a man page or utility distribution with that version of gpart for Linux? The man pages I've found seem to be for a very old utility that reconstructs partition tables. >> Some Linux utilities can be useful, but don't reach for them >> until you have tried what is available in FreeBSD. > > It's not like FreeBSD has some kind of monopoly GPT stuff or useful disk > utilities, any other *nix OS has pretty much all the same tools. True. On the other hand, my experience is that FreeBSD generally handles those things in a more useful way. And I don't see the point in grabbing a Linux utility disk when FreeBSD is already running and has the tools for the job. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 18:28:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D14F9B2D53 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D11B9AE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 090193F714 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C10444.1000801@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:28:20 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> <86vbcvt19s.fsf@WorkBox.Home> In-Reply-To: <86vbcvt19s.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:28:25 -0000 >>> I have not found a Linux utility similar to gpart >> >> Umm.... you do know that linux has gpart too, right? Like, it's a >> standard part of most distros, and it's what GParted Live is based around? > > GParted is the GTK+ graphical interface to GNU "parted" > program. I know that GParted is "Gnome Partition Editor" and is just a front end to parted, but I thought that [lib]parted was basically forked off of gpart at some point in the past. I stand corrected. >Typing "gpart" into a Linux console will get you > nothing. gpart v0.2.1 (c) 1999-2001 Michail Brzitwa >The GParted Live CD is a minimal Debian system that comes with > GParted and a handful of other utilities for system maintenance. Gparted Live includes gpart by Michail Brzitwa. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 18:31:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A3C9B2E00 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A49BAB11 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F0D73F738 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C104E5.7030208@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:31:01 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:31:04 -0000 > GEOM writes it's metadata at the end of the > block dev for many things which also conflicts with GPT. This and other > metadata conflict issues using either ufs or zfs based filesystems make > gpart(8) not only the best tool, in many cases it's the only tool that > can do it correctly short of a complete zeroing out of the block dev. I mean..... I guess? It's not like it's hard to specify a seek parameter with dd and just nuke the last 1mb of the disk. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 18:42:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8419951A6 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BEF810E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.11.237]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MTjMy-1ZE01K2cSG-00QRlZ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:42:26 +0200 From: Patrick Hess To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg installation && adduser Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:42:25 +0200 Message-ID: <2625928.x9bsQ44ZxQ@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p16; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150804071742.GA35753@c720-r276659> References: <20150804071742.GA35753@c720-r276659> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:kcJgMJEStaThF+L14RGNAkJWVUSRy/5UmV/JaOgKO2wWuhmyWGJ tREII6llywY26kjokEd16Fs9UCMEQw0CmlbrT+uv84u0W+uQw9Aq5X79RU8Wlw6i8Vs3gj7 6WYN7y7lNCxZs+W0E4WCP7sQ8ZaGjOLnY/eBDOkWcY+/FVH25ekcuASKfBxhOPKxfCwjLGL gPu6U1IY4W+kBCQTdJzCA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:PqA7mLat7CU=:GiD1wdTn3dzm1fHQEH2x9g Xzje6HIrmXSXtz9D2gVyKfHVEPJnyHmj2QUukceBulKqjFkfPbVk9yvfKAIF6PA9vQ7ejiUvV wAl3ryGgN4uxnPP/3ottDgnDgmi9Q/JwVt6cL6s+x2wVY9KxZORPwzvSBzNFpXr/EVtyf+nDf TepO1kwfmd5cPaZ1PFWQCJMX5rACyp5bhOG06k/jAMavrLYXbGF+HlIXxuEJhlOIrsxo3yz0d nRJ/GtR3mNeTELZ5GC1p0cAueFDxtC/BUJlljMb/YWUSGty/tcp35+JDUZgb/9eO51+nN98nA DKlixK5A4Xf229ux6L/1NTiUZ+daigNSAimJNIH1lWDtvEEgFoXzG69iU8g9hrg9OyR8t3X7K /MQmJlaZ4XdO99iQIPbxkw/lBguNMDEbOKgDYqrnKXAYudNAcQgXF+nTocnkbkULiELlWVGrp zcN1hWtivMOUgenBKkaj143NvWDky+09gHU5ozD7LYjZG3V6Gntd97i7FhDASuzgXVQd+LTbe o6En1Dk6K8ES+YjuSdLdvYM6IdrpphKYJv1zm4fv0UngDEMyLqJ6+4kZAp++S8PleGeNzgVMz Ppo2vn3KLcMFWq/qcQ09sEepncMww6qHlShCX8bBGdlDZcVm5/2iqnlddzks9Suflu7dgt5HR YPo3kZeoT9u8/6vhk24wLeiJgVKVhqA8JMalmq74e+qY/dC0yjGSJUAh5+R29Ye7dlZc= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:42:36 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > I'm trying to understand how the package command creates users during > the installation of packages, for example the dbus-1.8.8.txz does not > contain any file or script for creating the groups and user > 'messagebus'. How this is done during 'pkg install dbus'. > > [...] > > # tar tzf work/pkg/dbus-1.8.8.txz | fgrep + > +COMPACT_MANIFEST > +MANIFEST Take a look at the contents of that +MANIFEST file (linebreaks added here for better readability): # tar xvf dbus-1.8.20.txz x +COMPACT_MANIFEST x +MANIFEST [...] # cat +MANIFEST [...] "scripts": {"pre-install": "echo \"===> Creating users and/or groups.\" if ! /usr/sbin/pw groupshow messagebus >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo \"Creating group 'messagebus' with gid '556'.\" /usr/sbin/pw groupadd messagebus -g 556 [...] Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 18:42:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6309951BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57433110D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E277B3F6EA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C1079F.5030608@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:42:39 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:42:43 -0000 > I thought GParted live was based around parted. It is, but I mistakenly thought that [lib]parted was in turn based off of gpart (it's not). > Okay. Can you point me to a man page or utility distribution with that > version of gpart for Linux? Gparted Live: gpart v0.2.1 (c) 1999-2001 Michail Brzitwa It also has gdisk and sgdisk, which can be slightly more useful in some situations. When it comes to 'flatlining' a drive, I usually use sgdisk since the -Z option will blow away all partition schemes and backup headers in one shot (mbr+gpt+whatever). >And I don't see the point in grabbing > a Linux utility disk when FreeBSD is already running and has the tools > for the job. Well, the whole reason this thread got started is because he couldn't dd his usb drive. I suggested booting off a live linux cd just to double check if it was a hardware issue or if his copy of FreeBSD was corrupt. I suggested a linux live cd mainly because it was simple and will have a lot of utilities out of the box without needing to mess around (vs the FreeBSD installer images). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 18:54:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81FF9954FD for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AEE51A98 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.138.122] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMhMM-0003IC-8M; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:54:46 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t74IsimF002318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:54:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t74IshrW002317; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:54:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:54:43 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Patrick Hess Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg installation && adduser Message-ID: <20150804185443.GA2304@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Patrick Hess , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150804071742.GA35753@c720-r276659> <2625928.x9bsQ44ZxQ@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2625928.x9bsQ44ZxQ@desk8.phess.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.122 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:54:49 -0000 El día Tuesday, August 04, 2015 a las 08:42:25PM +0200, Patrick Hess escribió: > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > I'm trying to understand how the package command creates users during > > the installation of packages, for example the dbus-1.8.8.txz does not > > contain any file or script for creating the groups and user > > 'messagebus'. How this is done during 'pkg install dbus'. > > > > [...] > > > > # tar tzf work/pkg/dbus-1.8.8.txz | fgrep + > > +COMPACT_MANIFEST > > +MANIFEST > > Take a look at the contents of that +MANIFEST file (linebreaks added > here for better readability): Thanks! I found this too after reading https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng Maybe the special (yaml) form of the file +MANIFEST did not helped me to find with grep the useradd commands; the file is only one long line :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 No! Nein! ¡No! Όχι! -- ΕυχαÏιστοÏμε! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 19:28:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB4B9B312F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 19:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD409687 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t74JSNVI016108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:28:24 -0500 Subject: Re: question about reported temperatures To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55C0D003.6060703@hiwaay.net> <55C0E983.5000009@sneakertech.com> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <55C11257.2000205@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:33:53 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55C0E983.5000009@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 19:28:27 -0000 On 08/04/15 11:40, Quartz wrote: >> During the subsequent >> reboots, I got output from healthd saying one of my cores was a bit warm >> @ 52 (presumably C). However, sysctl reports wildly different temps: > >> Why the difference ? Which values are thought to be right or more right >> ? TIA & have a good one. BTW: > > Back in June I asked a couple questions about hardware monitoring > packages for reporting temps and fans speed and such. Towards the end > of the thread you responded offhand that temp monitoring was quirky on > your system: > > >> To expand a bit, mbmon & healthd seem to agree on (chipset ?) temp, > as distinct from amdtemp. However both only report for 2 CPU's (cores > ?), while amdtemp reports (wrongly, IMHO) for all 4 (in my case) .... > If healthd &/or mbmon would report (accurately) for all 4 cores, I'd > love them more :-) .... <<< > > Are you saying it's worse now, or something else changed...? > (I obviously have no worthwhile input on this topic since I didn't > even know half these programs existed two months ago, I'm just asking > for details since I think you might've left out some important info > specific to your setup). No, not worse or better, just recently noticable since I just had an unexpected reboot :-). My various linux boxen seem to get this right (or at least more credible numbers), have for years, in the lm_sensors package. This is obviously not a huge problem, but it would be sweet to be able to monitor stuff like system temps reliably & accurately, presumably more so on possibly distant servers. I *think* all this stuff is tied up in the basic system, not pkgs, but I could be wrong. If more info is needed, just ask. Have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 19:32:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6C79B32D5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 19:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CAE59A2 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 19:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.11.237]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MaaOf-1Z76sH0OrJ-00K5dI for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:32:44 +0200 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Base gpart vs. sysutils/gpart (was: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now.) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:32:43 +0200 Message-ID: <2888520.RJjyyPeuUg@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p16; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <55C1079F.5030608@sneakertech.com> References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C1079F.5030608@sneakertech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:cse77AC92y17EAj2TsLTpuEP1EycSPnPokiFS0A3u7VV+hdZE/z wHnXUCENmLxZwZfPjBGQvizSqJABJ3ptC9tfnvG9Prrs3bLZMBaBB0uDaiTlUTphMSr/Y3r wqBtK0XNZA4EP9A5bJfUcZ+BYgmFJP9bIsvARpkbin4OHZiOlQuO8Sg9CdBbp9zkt3LqK23 8H4rU1StBewrwQrRioJeg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:CxdsA2eAIOk=:GnXjRky/i3I5SRr/qW+3EV fIs/uB+cmOnz8bH07HrD9wwOgFnf3l1tqQlvo1kMpvarl/FrmpZxWZaLZumA+KS4FwROJj1G0 A1hsGWOdkwuEDton5pZBh+rAJn+2WOYQvEpoX1m3rIa81OBt8de0yJJJzYFrjq1BgRw9ZLNPw rIXc1ora+qYPfr/LkTPBVrHQwRHVC8i9bOOcxCW51Whq6VrHVd89YzuDbSHbr+F3rqhBDd86I RT/xjxFlPzB6O8jsHdnZe2JZR0G0lgXIS1QQVLawgeyEkckd9WJNYO418k8+S+0JQYEkbICo8 VHZlGsM3HmqtK5olBJW33sTXiYF6Ahtlxqr9SNBjs/Yyj3ExlOi+JXWs6HwiK5bMps4TI0ZT0 Xfw3NXOLNKfGCKJjKwd1IFnT034YRyTbPLrkt0wJ77KjiVBDCHRPrlCLvcySMgcKFgI2QISAm 9Go0gSlozTuK2/Tm/dEUX/66nqCOd4794+PhsbXzXnVg6kmxpE8s9fvyveKsCssK/zgdZnAwU WxcJYvb4C/2AL2xmNImyx9ITNWxyJ+yxmCSbIJdXkYnpMJCbYpNwMqehhEH7ZogLze+hTPxSx YrXp2Eze8lShRE7yF5gtiI6r6UxGDsSuOmkm9+NDz+rrnG1OVcPSbCW/CZBMahjPfP8i+Ckek gRhkMD9Vqfy83LVOT8zeSCuVtA2UWFuLzxmUAKA3kzvByh16IVAEr/zoIanoUxPfPnMo= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 19:32:52 -0000 Quartz wrote: >> Okay. Can you point me to a man page or utility distribution >> with that version of gpart for Linux? > Gparted Live: > gpart v0.2.1 (c) 1999-2001 Michail Brzitwa So I guess we're talking about this tool then (quoting from http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/gpart): A port of a tool which tries to guess the primary partition table of a PC-type hard disk [...] WWW: http://brzitwa.de/mb/gpart/index.html (outdated) That's completely different from what FreeBSD's own gpart does. Just because two tools happen to share the same name doesn't necessarily mean that they'll also do the same thing. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 20:07:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7809B3BD2 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7E1CFD4 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A27440088C for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:01:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FE812815E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:01:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E9612812F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:01:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.254.7] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:01:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Base gpart vs. sysutils/gpart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C1079F.5030608@sneakertech.com> <2888520.RJjyyPeuUg@desk8.phess.net> From: Steve Burton Message-ID: <55C11A01.9020500@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:01:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2888520.RJjyyPeuUg@desk8.phess.net> X-MDF-HostID: 22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:07:19 -0000 On 04/08/2015 20:32, Patrick Hess wrote: > Quartz wrote: >>> Okay. Can you point me to a man page or utility distribution >>> with that version of gpart for Linux? >> Gparted Live: >> gpart v0.2.1 (c) 1999-2001 Michail Brzitwa > So I guess we're talking about this tool then (quoting from http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/gpart): > > A port of a tool which tries to guess the primary partition > table of a PC-type hard disk [...] > > WWW: http://brzitwa.de/mb/gpart/index.html (outdated) > > That's completely different from what FreeBSD's own gpart does. > Just because two tools happen to share the same name doesn't > necessarily mean that they'll also do the same thing. > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > As a case in point, typing 'killall httpd' on a FreeBSD or Linux box doesn't give the same result as typing it on a Solaris box, as I found out all by myself ... Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 20:22:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C449B305C for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7271C15 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AB8AD9B305B; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912E79B305A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7936E1C14 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id C34DD593E553; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:22:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: CeDeROM Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_7hL6_HmvwbJaIwi00gTXvYd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:22:19 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_7hL6_HmvwbJaIwi00gTXvYd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting CeDeROM : > Hello David :-) > > EFI is different than MBR/BIOS. I did not manage to boot Grub2/Linux on m= y > new EFI machine. Only FreeBSD and Windows starts. It *is* a very weird and poorly documented process and I haven't=20=20 actually=20checked to see yet if I succeeded in getting grub to work. Obviously, we want the grub-efi package. I think it *might* want the=20=20 EFI=20partition to be the first on the disk (normal, but not always the=20= =20 case),=20but what is really weird here is having to switch the partition=20= =20 type=20between efi and bios-boot. GRUB only writes on a partition marked=20= =20 bios-boot=20and when it finds a directory there named EFI. And the=20=20 firmware=20will only boot from it when it is marked efi. So (from memory): gpart modify -i 1 -t bios-boot /dev/ada0 And when done gpart modify -i 1 -t efi /dev/ada0 I also have the efi partition mounted as /boot/efi Also, when issuing grub-install it is very important to specify the=20=20 correct=20target. The default is *wrong* and, I'm guessing, how I=20=20 screwed=20up my EFI partition in the first place. The invocation here=20=20 seems=20to be: grub-install --target=3Dx86_64-efi /dev/ada0 You should then find a subdirectory /boot/efi/EFI/Grub with an efi=20=20 file=20inside of it. It looks like all this is extremely fragile. I had a crash (probably=20=20 related=20to the KVM switch I use--I think I need to report this to the=20= =20 stable=20list) while the partition was mounted and I am currently unable=20= =20 to=20mount or modify the EFI partition. I get: home-desktop# mount /boot/efi mount_msdosfs: /dev/ada0p1: Operation not permitted home-desktop# newfs_msdos /dev/ada0p1 newfs_msdos: /dev/ada0p1: Operation not permitted I can't even delete the partition: home-desktop# gpart delete -i 1 /dev/ada0 gpart: Device busy I have rebooted the system a couple times since this first cropped up,=20= =20 so=20that didn't help. I may try going in with the gparted live disk. > > So I select OS to boot directly from BIOS menu (or Boot Menu F8). Have yo= u > tried that to repair Windoze boot? Maybe booy CD? If the files I'm able to obtain from other systems don't work, I will=20=20 have=20to buy the CD. That menu (accessed via F1 and F12 on my system)=20= =20 does=20not show a boot entry for Windows. Also, apparently I was wrong about grub detecting Windows. It detects=20=20 the=20efi files--which are presently missing on my system. > > I can give you files fromWin7 EFI boot partition if that helps.. > > Best regards, > Tomek > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info --=20 David=20Benfell --=_7hL6_HmvwbJaIwi00gTXvYd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwR76AAoJEBV64x4SNmArDc0P/1SMXSNfMDSBBCCf41YFgdSj Oi4ucA8LHCnjIOEsoCXZT0yM92FmbyRHxPzwMuVs08RK4ztoZ3xeIlssAllBgSGL C4PbbUlQJtx+xpTyB5u04nG7aVv9FDAmLdwe0ojIPH3d8JA0ixWNauR2oOsQlXAP CCh+SstpRj+UBrlB3Ry8wyq2ZIMANSAh7f4afL2VYfXVV+VtablVGUm0PcD381ik gr/d6J3+4ZNEn5Nu7H8rO4cvPE+/8+J66fNYVqfe4uop9SbChgv8azAOMPzO/p0e V3Po7024J+oo785P0DJg/vZWSmLwUBFCiK/4SrVTOzLBE/0b9CV+wfCB+qePJjY+ yky7upZqsF5nVB682UgntvMtZxy/ClpXRwy1wgf8A+fyjz6QFvhKS5ir5czG5Sop da9LqpjuXqYNJuk9BF7JPkdZzr1YVSovEJDaD4O+EJWrcaPGZDyUMJ9+HTeOq+0h vUyqlDrxxSKuY2gOMEzwwuO87k595B0+oqIv/QR+eaVQX9Vze02ZvkTK4bb8F9KU ltT05igSlJ4tIgNyJL55iZrC5fXoayw4r+lyNenOU56xVAbrUzBLpyPO8WrmJs/Q S9Baye7HQ7LMB/e/771flGbfbQZwHg4pTBTR+gALcd8rSDdqa6z81kGc/86KECmD ia625bz0u7DNgsDgohj5 =kgpe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_7hL6_HmvwbJaIwi00gTXvYd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 20:33:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03FA9B33E7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A75113E1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 3E727593E553; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:33:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:33:40 -0700 Message-ID: <20150804133340.Horde.bOcsohK2SHU7QaGxyYm25S6@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804130722.3ffee235@archlinux> <20150804131849.6407b5c9@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20150804131849.6407b5c9@archlinux> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_Uqaiy-A9t0-1Hd2_fD1tJWw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:33:40 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_Uqaiy-A9t0-1Hd2_fD1tJWw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Ralf Mardorf : > sorry, I wasn't aware how trick this is, but there are at least tons of > Linux howtos in the web, you'll get hits, even if your search term > includes "freebsd" instead of "linux". Did you read those? I did and there seems to be considerable strangeness associated with=20=20 grub=20on FreeBSD. See my response to CeDeROM. This may be more art than=20= =20 science. > >=20It's likely more pleasant to run Windows in a VM ;). And if I wind up buying the CD, that *might* be what I do. I'm trying=20=20 to=20avoid paying *again* for Windows. --=20 David=20Benfell --=_Uqaiy-A9t0-1Hd2_fD1tJWw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwSGkAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr2C8P/RWcOtXh3iWcVeRY7g1cWbXq vU4omLz0HixT6l9qLdokZpgNGdJB/jZCh/xcFTNgmtXL84QYiDZWzhPW1jzQHRdE eFMK1OtLU3neKFVmSUY82XXnvBLOkWxdfqFnPTirNpv5CkmJ2bxwNm+OesEGhYlx EY3Fl76smVLwrNd+h5EeyrqkYfBEj6lPwUo5eai8F9CKfNhOQsmtwpFWbpdQNk/P iFtWvfkul+TwB3kR/cOuNJQPDY24z7k3ZvtAgBGT2eMiN1Dm54gmfUV52SWc9NkW Z/lSPqXQ11naZ58cHzS5G46IKbM29vGkEwFmjra9wZFgNPjbPqvxTBhaeRWCkyjj XZSHMfcFRVAbRmIMe2OMjA/XWqOUskN9yCK7VYv52wKfl6uTRzNq8jIiCDmKKeIk KMBa5Pa7fuFgFuY+chpRfLdBtSwLYH94fVQ1yL6ifdlSEblCoMUDYeNM4TCcn4hQ heEyI5OpJzZ3+87yCpTGfWpu7mWYCaTQSWbCysdYdqmiwDR9aNLSoD6y+CDAyadj BI0Lzy3LcdJZzaUp1UFf4bs5z9GjGgWe8Ztyz6dW1CW6Ab2H7xMCjbkl7ivCIxdP EISu7Z3mAzXwBEFKyf1abJyxDzvZPxt/CtwC0LXF0Wr/sIwSM/YKZaY0DjCAWHwf upCs5PsJNyLX1PKcy3mx =2DDX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_Uqaiy-A9t0-1Hd2_fD1tJWw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 20:49:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263D39B36EC for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EEF0E25 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local ([192.168.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t74Knbw0029308 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:49:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t74Knbw0029308 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t74Knbw0029308; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [192.168.100.2] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: pkg installation && adduser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150804071742.GA35753@c720-r276659> <2625928.x9bsQ44ZxQ@desk8.phess.net> <20150804185443.GA2304@c720-r276659> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <55C12554.4030407@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:49:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150804185443.GA2304@c720-r276659> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Jh91kDSkRrgr1qtVcK6nTphTiuB8oluuX" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:49:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Jh91kDSkRrgr1qtVcK6nTphTiuB8oluuX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/08/2015 19:54, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Thanks! I found this too after reading https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng > Maybe the special (yaml) form of the file +MANIFEST did not helped me t= o > find with grep the useradd commands; the file is only one long line :-(= >=20 pkg info -R pkgname or pkg info -RF pkgname.txz Cheers, Matthew --Jh91kDSkRrgr1qtVcK6nTphTiuB8oluuX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVwSVcXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATMFQP/jR7co6CnRg5vFaIl2o+d2gn 6WtUxwRiUSXX/3ZSa1UrHOyn1iYl8WEGhuUxW8ukye+1oQ7v9jsb/DizVtk3YCH2 O8MwtnTW0pK/BipKy4uX9WeO2SpwK+LuHRkO7pBfHrNPPFKYELhx/yXM3C22bLGA Z4WFQJX26uECgxhkjReQeelw2J3htEQ6aRllDIEC2tUJxScHdiqnIce+xUm9tKrA OqaG6ZYifxufI0hkUmXoq+fDtHBY9S5CxlDhR1KyxPB7Jsud/ZwGWydrcCvHrzkD R1ytZ5WPUIHXxsA3/eVzPUQzXNmGn3+aFxUhdKi8TRsh5QfE+nHFGeTFw3tOAFPv OeSCDBJj7K0Qa+X1QK8VuYNTF889Flmv0i4ULQ7QhdAufG1Xv6blcviZpp82+BAA v8tPenqZuP2HYx9H2QUgWpIt6+rTzmNbRLSx5cf0ZcYY+8UjR4UsuDHCHbaAGDt6 k3i84CErf288L/9mdddyvtC5HbxsPTIKNm77zIbnVwx3lXzwh+mH0cTgwKulmECD rR+pBxBTgWzErXzqHnU5e4pzthBTtoPfGfeJc6qGURT4fhKdzDmbot+0CEMU+VEo +SqMSdhVRm+KtdZOlqq/gkxaChCyZpGUlI8U910WxUdBttiW+V948x6APSM97WW6 46QcDL9EbZZKsFxKIabr =oF2G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Jh91kDSkRrgr1qtVcK6nTphTiuB8oluuX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 21:07:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968A69B3AE4 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from javocado@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com (mail-la0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 227FAA2B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from javocado@gmail.com) Received: by labsr2 with SMTP id sr2so15834607lab.2 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:07:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0Z3Wx0RF2oFGqPEncPKgIaWPgC8+2+TOQyNnn7c9cnU=; b=ig/FWkvQv3Frsguub5MughGBvCPi+a3g4hS5Oi/AGOfaESm6ILym5uRE2S7nzuOVyZ tUFX2oDebv+QwoP4xIPmnFDUUBrzUYEOT8E92ur3m9DaWQ/h9EPX/s6gVXkv+jgu2z3T I4to9thLiQiU+6mJ+mmmpmyRKMneV0RBNtrtNBQ13R0DT+aFPM/8iXXCKOTCa+d1KJLR LDNLZZ+6nA2J57DW988nBDEErgVumJkXiOmu8o1faINsDv3YpX3AGN2kDqRbYBLpe7q3 No9AGHsDu7zHWDEIWXiMOWu+zA2Vfklg1p23NJUq02g7FV+B5Ktgr1Z425noMzh4mwUa el8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.55.33 with SMTP id o1mr6250954lbp.96.1438722442625; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.96.8 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:07:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: pw operations slow under zfs load From: javocado To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:07:25 -0000 Hi, We have a pretty busy ZFS pool running on an 8.3 AMD system. We are noticing that when the pool is busy pw-related operations seem to take a long time to complete: # time pw unlock 1000 0.007u 0.036s 0:39.72 0.0% 45+1953k 0+113io 0pf+0w # time pw lock 1000 0.032u 0.022s 1:09.63 0.0% 24+1132k 0+114io 0pf+0w Wile the command is running, we note that the process is locked in the D state: root 85051 0.0 0.0 5832 960 0 D+ 1:53PM 0:00.02 /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -u 1000 /etc/master.passwd We also note that there is next to 0 disk activity on the boot volume: # gstat -f ad dT: 1.005s w: 1.000s filter: ad L(q) ops/s r/s kBps ms/r w/s kBps ms/w %busy Name 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad6 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad8 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad10 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad12 And plenty of free mem: Mem: 400M Active, 3391M Inact, 128G Wired, 1935M Cache, 14G Buf, 6055M Free So, what's going on here? How does a busy pool with it's own set of drives (which operate off an HBA) affect the speed of operations involving the boot volume (a UFS-formatted SSD connected to the mobo)? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 21:18:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F519B3D34 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "PositiveSSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D00E5D99 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.103] (cm-84.210.87.28.getinternet.no [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02171E29; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:17:58 +0000 (UTC) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <3C5A26BE-DC2E-457C-A205-B572FC19325E@elde.net> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B500) From: Terje Elde Subject: Re: pw operations slow under zfs load Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 23:17:58 +0200 To: javocado X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:18:09 -0000 On 4. aug. 2015, at 23:07, javocado wrote: > So, what's going on here? How does a busy pool with it's own set of drives= > (which operate off an HBA) affect the speed of operations involving the > boot volume (a UFS-formatted SSD connected to the mobo)? First thing that springs to mind is that it's not just a matter of simple IO= . There's also locking (see man-page for flock and/or lockf). Could this be a= s simple as whatever is causing the work-load on your ZFS-volume holding a s= hared lock, on something pw wants to grab an exclusive lock on, prior to doi= ng the actual change? Terje= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 21:19:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECCF9B3DDE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [178.250.72.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004E9E58 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from [192.168.10.238] (186.211.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.211.186]) by relay.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7D922C158; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 22:13:01 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: pw operations slow under zfs load From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 22:12:59 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: javocado X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:19:51 -0000 > On 4 Aug 2015, at 22:07, javocado wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > We have a pretty busy ZFS pool running on an 8.3 AMD system. We are > noticing that when the pool is busy pw-related operations seem to = take a > long time to complete: >=20 > # time pw unlock 1000 > 0.007u 0.036s 0:39.72 0.0% 45+1953k 0+113io 0pf+0w >=20 > # time pw lock 1000 > 0.032u 0.022s 1:09.63 0.0% 24+1132k 0+114io 0pf+0w >=20 > Wile the command is running, we note that the process is locked in the = D > state: >=20 > root 85051 0.0 0.0 5832 960 0 D+ 1:53PM 0:00.02 > /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -u 1000 /etc/master.passwd >=20 > We also note that there is next to 0 disk activity on the boot volume: >=20 > # gstat -f ad >=20 > dT: 1.005s w: 1.000s filter: ad > L(q) ops/s r/s kBps ms/r w/s kBps ms/w %busy Name > 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad6 > 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad8 > 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad10 > 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad12 >=20 > And plenty of free mem: >=20 > Mem: 400M Active, 3391M Inact, 128G Wired, 1935M Cache, 14G Buf, 6055M = Free >=20 > So, what's going on here? How does a busy pool with it's own set of = drives > (which operate off an HBA) affect the speed of operations involving = the > boot volume (a UFS-formatted SSD connected to the mobo)? Maybe some ktrace operations are in order? I remember, about 15 years = ago, discovering that that =E2=80=98-s=E2=80=99 option can make a big = difference. -s cachesize Specify in megabytes the size of the memory cache used by the = hash- ing library. On systems with a large user base, a small = cache size can lead to prohibitively long database file rebuild times. = As a rough guide, the memory usage of pwd_mkdb in megabytes will = be a little bit more than twice the figure specified here. The = default is 2 megabytes. - Mark =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 21:51:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477CE9B36FF for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D681F8F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3808B46B59 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t74LpSdR004430 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:51:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t74LpSWS004427 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:51:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:51:28 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: freebsd-update 9.1 --> 9.3 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:51:29 +0100 (BST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:51:30 -0000 First this is on a test system so no harm [or not], no foul. I started with an ISO for 9.1, added the security changes and then tried to update 9.1 --> 9.2. I was given a non-ending series of files in /etc (with no local changes) to merge. I did half-a-dozen or before stopping the process and doing a rollback. I have two questions: (1) uname -a shows: FreeBSD chaos.boltsys.com 9.2-RELEASE-p15 FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p15 #0: Mon Nov 3 20:31:29 UTC 2014 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 while 336 of 354 file show releng/9.1 and none have 9.2. So is it 9.1 with a false indicator or is it messed up? The system is running the GENERIC kernel. (2) Section 24.2.1. The Configuration File - from the handbook says "... The file merge process is a series of diff(1) patches similar to mergemaster(8), but with fewer options. Merges are either accepted, open an editor, or cause freebsd-update to abort. When in doubt, backup /etc and just accept the merges." How is this done with freebsd-update? The format of the files presented must be changed. I have questions archived back to 1/1/13 and with google I was only able to get a couple of broken links. So I would really appreciate any pointers even if its, "you can't get there from here". 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:27:30 -0000 Theresa, Please read the bottom of this email, or any other email you have received from this list. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Steve / Theresa via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > Somehow I am getting all this spam email from all kinds of people from > your website/group. I never signed up for it, I think I was hacked and I > must be taken off of this list immediately. > Please let me know that you have taken me off this forum/group/page. > Theresa > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 22:51:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFA29B33F6 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 22:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15547A85 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 22:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from [67.49.10.59] ([67.49.10.59:43319] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 44/2D-24821-59141C55; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:49:58 +0000 Message-ID: <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:49:46 -0700 From: Cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:51:13 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > Quoting CeDeROM : > >> Hello David :-) >> >> EFI is different than MBR/BIOS. I did not manage to boot Grub2/Linux on my >> new EFI machine. Only FreeBSD and Windows starts. > > It *is* a very weird and poorly documented process and I haven't actually > checked to see yet if I succeeded in getting grub to work. Do you see any output after running grub-mkconfig(8) ? Like so $ grub-mkconfig -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 23:45:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667C09B3014 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 23:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB56537B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t74Nj4r0093417 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 01:45:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55C14E80.6040101@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 01:45:04 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> <20150804084402.941e19ca.freebsd@edvax.de> <55C06621.5010704@sneakertech.com> <55C08361.6080802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0B3CA.50909@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <55C0B3CA.50909@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:45:16 -0000 On 2015-08-04 14:44, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/04/15 04:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2015-08-04 09:13, Quartz wrote: >>> Trashed stick or not, you should still download copies of UBCD and >>> GParted though :) >> Well, not now. > > > If not now, when? Probably never.AS long as MBR exist I'm going to use it. > Those are both fabulous little toolkits to have at your disposal for > the next time they're needed. Never needed them. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 23:55:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABC09B32A1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 23:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131A9A88 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 23:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 4F870CB8CAB; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:55:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.4 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:55:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <28096.128.135.52.4.1438732545.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:55:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: How do you guys do it with Owncloud (client)? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Christian Baer" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: <2190738.oaEa4U0gL2@falbala> In-Reply-To: <2190738.oaEa4U0gL2@falbala> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:55:52 -0000 On Sun, August 2, 2015 10:59 am, Christian Baer wrote: > Hello everybody! > > Although the weather is great today around where I live (not a cloud in the > sky), I have decided I want to get this working! I guess I have > stubbornness > issues. :-) > > I've been using OC for quite some time now (on shared hosting) and the clients > for Windows (home) and Linux (work). As some of you may remember, a while > ago > I bought a new computer and now I find myself almost exclusively using FreeBSD > at home, which of course brought up the wish to use OC on FreeBSD. > > Fulfilling this wish has been pretty frustrating so far and quite frankly, > I > have no idea why I haven't found much more bitching about this on the web. > Disclaimer: This is not me bitching! I am simply staggered by the fact that > such a commonly used software doesn't have a flood of howtos and comments > about it not working under FreeBSD on the client side. > > Anyways, moving on... :-) > > The official OwnCloud (Linux) Desktop Client does not (seem to) work under > FreeBSD. I haven't looked into this myself, but I am guessing this is a FUSE > issue. I want to use the OC client on my fileserver (which runs FreeBSD like > my workstation), so I don't terribly mind that there is no GUI. A while back I > did some research and found out, that ocsync (some front-end to csync) was > the > way to go under FreeBSD. Back then the almost utter lack of documentation > about ocsync put me off a bit, because I had more important things to do at > the time and didn't want to spend that much time working this out. > > Today I thought, I'd spend half a day if needed and get this to work. So I > updated my ports to the current revision and look for ocsync - and it was > gone. Another piece of software I came accross was mirall, and > whatdoyouknow? > It's gone too! At first I thought this was some mistake and my update of the > ports tree had broken something. But there are no manpages for these on freebsd.org anymore either - which is a pretty sure sign that there is no > official support for them. > > What all this boils down to: > I am pretty sure that some of you will be using FreeBSD on the desktop as > I am > and there is a good chance that a subset of those will use OwnCloud. How do > you do it? How did you set it up? Where did you get your > information/documentation from? > > I am grateful for anything useful on this! > Just in case you didn't get your answers yet: 1. I have owncloud server on FreeBSD 9.3 (I know this is not what you asked). Installed and updated through ports. 2. I have clients on a variety of systems: CentOS, Windows 7, MacOS (10.10), Android, FreeBSD 10.1,... On FreeBSD 10.1 client was installed using pkg: pkg install owncloudclient User of FreeBSD machine then executed the command owncloud upon which in GUI panel he was prompted about server URL, username, password and where user prefer to put stuff locally... Also, it was added to Startup Applications of the user so the sync daemon is started for user upon login (the user uses Mate, the same should happen for Gnome). Did you try this route? What didn't work for you? Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 00:44:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32B99B314D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 00:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89889B20 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 00:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t750iLp8001388 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:44:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t750iLhT001383; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:44:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:44:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Quartz cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. In-Reply-To: <55C1079F.5030608@sneakertech.com> Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> <55C0E688.3000203@sneakertech.com> <55C1079F.5030608@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:44:22 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 00:44:29 -0000 On Tue, 4 Aug 2015, Quartz wrote: >> I thought GParted live was based around parted. > > It is, but I mistakenly thought that [lib]parted was in turn based off of > gpart (it's not). > > >> Okay. Can you point me to a man page or utility distribution with that >> version of gpart for Linux? > > Gparted Live: > gpart v0.2.1 (c) 1999-2001 Michail Brzitwa That is the old utility I found (2001). A Linux version of FreeBSD's gpart would be really nice, but unlikely. > It also has gdisk and sgdisk, which can be slightly more useful in some > situations. When it comes to 'flatlining' a drive, I usually use sgdisk since > the -Z option will blow away all partition schemes and backup headers in one > shot (mbr+gpt+whatever). gpart will do this also, with "destroy -F". And gpart handles other partitioning schemes in addition to MBR and GPT, including BSD labels that many other partition tools do not recognize but are often found on FreeBSD systems. This whole discussion prompted me to upgrade my PXE-boot GParted. It still does not quite do what I want, but can be useful. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 03:15:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8599B32ED for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 03:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F13FC134A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 03:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 941DC593E546; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:15:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:15:40 -0700 Message-ID: <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> In-Reply-To: <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_LHdbH5W2aKPDEzhp9v9QkWz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 03:15:42 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_LHdbH5W2aKPDEzhp9v9QkWz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Cary : > David Benfell wrote: >> Quoting CeDeROM : >> >>> Hello David :-) >>> >>> EFI is different than MBR/BIOS. I did not manage to boot Grub2/Linux on= my >>> new EFI machine. Only FreeBSD and Windows starts. >> >> It *is* a very weird and poorly documented process and I haven't actuall= y >> checked to see yet if I succeeded in getting grub to work. > > Do you see any output after running grub-mkconfig(8) ? Yes, and this (but see below for the resulting grub.cfg) looks like=20=20 more=20trouble: home-desktop# grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg Generating grub configuration file ... Found kernel of FreeBSD: /boot/kernel/kernel Found kernel module directory: /boot/kernel grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/da0p1. Check=20=20 your=20device.map. grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/da1p1. Check=20=20 your=20device.map. done I don't have even the first idea why it's looking for /dev/da0p1 or=20=20 /dev/da1p1.=20I've tried both creating /boot/grub/device.map with just=20= =20 an=20entry for /dev/ada0 and deleting it. I managed to copy in the EFI directory from my other local system. I'm=20= =20 in=20the middle of stuff right now, so I haven't yet tested this.=20=20 grub-mkconfig=20does, however, create /boot/grub/grub.cfg which, among=20= =20 other=20things, appears to contain entries (see below) for Windows (and=20= =20 Dell)=20stuff. And grub-install appears to work: home-desktop# mount /boot/efi home-desktop# grub-install --target x86_64-efi /dev/ada0 Installing for x86_64-efi platform. Installation finished. No error reported. home-desktop# ls -al /boot/efi/EFI total 192 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jan 21 2015 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Dec 31 1979 .. drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jan 21 2015 Boot drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jul 5 2014 Dell drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jan 21 2015 Microsoft drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Aug 4 17:01 grub One thing that is surprising is that I am no longer having to switch=20=20 the=20partition type back and forth between bios-boot and efi. I don't=20= =20 know=20what changed here--oops. grub.cfg contains: home-desktop# cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg # # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE # # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates # from /usr/local/etc/grub.d and settings from /usr/local/etc/default/grub # ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/00_header ### insmod part_gpt if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then load_env fi set default=3D"0" if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" =3D xy ]; then menuentry_id_option=3D"--id" else menuentry_id_option=3D"" fi export menuentry_id_option if [ x"${gelipassphrase}" !=3D x ]; then set pass=3D"$gelipassphrase" export pass fi if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then set saved_entry=3D"${prev_saved_entry}" save_env saved_entry set prev_saved_entry=3D save_env prev_saved_entry set boot_once=3Dtrue fi function savedefault { if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then saved_entry=3D"${chosen}" save_env saved_entry fi } function load_video { insmod vbe insmod vga insmod video_bochs insmod video_cirrus } if [ x$feature_default_font_path =3D xy ] ; then font=3Dunicode else insmod part_gpt insmod zfs if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint =3D xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55b27d6ad121af05 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55b27d6ad121af05 fi font=3D"/share/grub/unicode.pf2" fi if loadfont $font ; then if [ x"${grub_platform}" =3D xpc ] ; then set gfxmode=3Dauto load_video insmod gfxterm else # EFI insmod efi_gop insmod gfxterm insmod font insmod videotest insmod videoinfo set gfxmode=3Dauto fi fi terminal_output gfxterm set timeout=3D15 ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/00_header ### ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/10_kfreebsd ### menuentry 'FreeBSD' --class freebsd --class bsd --class os=20=20 $menuentry_id_option=20'kfreebsd-simple-55a8c7840b09a772' { insmod part_gpt insmod zfs if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint =3D xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 fi echo 'Loading kernel of FreeBSD kernel ...' kfreebsd /boot/kernel/kernel kfreebsd_loadenv /boot/device.hints insmod part_gpt insmod zfs if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint =3D xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 fi kfreebsd_module_elf /boot/kernel/ufs.ko set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=3Dufs:ufsid/55a8c7840b09a772 set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=3Drw } submenu 'Advanced options for FreeBSD' $menuentry_id_option=20=20 'kfreebsd-advanced-55a8c7840b09a772'=20{ menuentry 'FreeBSD, with kFreeBSD kernel' --class freebsd --class bsd=20= =20 --class=20os $menuentry_id_option=20=20 'kfreebsd-kernel-advanced-55a8c7840b09a772'=20{ insmod part_gpt insmod zfs if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint =3D xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 fi echo 'Loading kernel of FreeBSD kernel ...' kfreebsd /boot/kernel/kernel kfreebsd_loadenv /boot/device.hints insmod part_gpt insmod zfs if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint =3D xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 fi kfreebsd_module_elf /boot/kernel/ufs.ko set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=3Dufs:ufsid/55a8c7840b09a772 set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=3Drw } menuentry 'FreeBSD, with kFreeBSD kernel (recovery mode)' --class=20=20 freebsd=20--class bsd --class os $menuentry_id_option=20=20 'kfreebsd-kernel-recovery-55a8c7840b09a772'=20{ insmod part_gpt insmod zfs if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint =3D xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 fi echo 'Loading kernel of FreeBSD kernel ...' kfreebsd /boot/kernel/kernel -s kfreebsd_loadenv /boot/device.hints insmod part_gpt insmod zfs if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint =3D xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 55a8c7840b09a772 fi kfreebsd_module_elf /boot/kernel/ufs.ko set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=3Dufs:ufsid/55a8c7840b09a772 set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=3Drw } } ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/10_kfreebsd ### ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/10_ktrueos ### ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/10_ktrueos ### ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgr.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgr.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/memtest.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/memtest.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Dell/Boot/bootmgfw.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Dell/Boot/bootmgfw.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Dell/Boot/bootmgr.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Dell/Boot/bootmgr.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Dell/Boot/bootx64.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Dell/Boot/bootx64.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/Dell/Boot/memtest.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/Dell/Boot/memtest.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd0 - /EFI/grub/grubx64.efi)" { set root=3D('hd0,gpt1') chainloader /EFI/grub/grubx64.efi } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd1)" { set root=3D(hd1) chainloader +1 } menuentry "Chainload Disk (hd2)" { set root=3D(hd2) chainloader +1 } ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/40_custom.dist ### # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type t= he # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to chang= e # the 'exec tail' line above. ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/40_custom.dist ### ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/41_custom ### if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then source $prefix/custom.cfg; fi ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/41_custom ### ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/50_otherbe ### ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/50_otherbe ### I'm hoping for the best. As soon as I get through with all this other=20=20 stuff,=20I'll attempt a reboot and see if I can actually get into 1)=20=20 grub,=20and 2) Windows. The latter, as previously mentioned, might fail=20= =20 because=20the files I copied in are from Windows 8.1 rather than Windows=20= =20 10. I=20do have another Windows 10 installation lying about but I haven't=20=20 found=20how reliably to get into the firmware to boot it under something=20= =20 else=20that will let me actually copy the files from its EFI partition.=20= =20 This=20other system is a super-cheap Asus laptop and Google is not being=20= =20 my friend. --=20 David=20Benfell --=_LHdbH5W2aKPDEzhp9v9QkWz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwX/cAAoJEBV64x4SNmArziUP+gJ4SBS7JnxIoa+tiISf7oMx gsaJ35OTspouRhjoLyZJ+dbSP15bbxDlktIiTmyBwskW29C0ejkYIjIi+FTAikwB LlCjheZHlFLCEAPFZHqc9vRGKvdXAy13hZgLp43NPQFm/3Q0/U+1kFXrG8Pk1hvq 4asrGEm9KFOukNTtCJCgIqYz0044so9QiQnxV+H1qI2IWRbfDAkt0MsWf0mLruAY vOgpJ35IavcPI1wWVIc06XzK74tW+z9C8Vd8jgVUX+lY5zJHJDEz2piGo7ZQmjhF 48PupkRTnSWkpCBHJELa3Ju24UBfbTMDi86Ify8Nxs/VPlRtFfIWC6ztoT+chjSt V1iyk4HFL5EfSQV/8sLyp2nn39VO06u+WOGlDQKUFIWUC6F/v7wo5te4yC+Nvaam DJ1AzbNaTD/zNuzkBrrflNZIzVgTEL2BaQxVPvp4oPxWZ0IERFvckDtppH8PUcGu YZfC7oHlmcIgfEShm+ufR2CAdmaH0uiE1B8U38kj0pZ+pBR13+1JRA2XhYZ8wlcP kYG6bWAKAyKQ9cmHPDA3JdjMV1Y8H1X/FrjHCvnGiXJfPV/KWyvieojlHQ/LNRmH jjSfVuQvteCDzJBJS8AKcPwm3/A6QuoJfA6aYB2UVikTgP0s13UDMgZxBVjgwK8Y VFR3kQBAeVn5I1K6guLX =Jn/H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_LHdbH5W2aKPDEzhp9v9QkWz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 05:00:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75ED89B2B4D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 05:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5786FA6 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 05:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0DDEA3F756 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 01:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C1986E.5040402@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 01:00:30 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Base gpart vs. sysutils/gpart References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C1079F.5030608@sneakertech.com> <2888520.RJjyyPeuUg@desk8.phess.net> In-Reply-To: <2888520.RJjyyPeuUg@desk8.phess.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 05:00:34 -0000 > So I guess we're talking about this tool then (quoting from http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/gpart): > > A port of a tool which tries to guess the primary partition > table of a PC-type hard disk [...] > > WWW: http://brzitwa.de/mb/gpart/index.html (outdated) > > That's completely different from what FreeBSD's own gpart does. > Just because two tools happen to share the same name doesn't > necessarily mean that they'll also do the same thing. I had to triple check this to confirm, but you're right. I swear up and down I've used versions of linux that had the gpart from FreeBSD, but apparently Gparted Live isn't one of them (assuming they even exist). When I wrote those emails, I had quickly booted a VM off Gparted and double checked that there was a gpart command that printed out a bunch of disk-related stuff (while not really paying attention to exactly what the output was because I thought I already knew) and then quickly glanced at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/gpart] to cross check it was the same version, because I assumed that the wikipedia page on gpart would refer to the modern FreeBSD version everybody uses and not the ancient linux one. A side effect of wikipedia's constant warning boxes at the top of every page is that I subconsciously skip over them completely, and therefore missed the line above it. One of the big problems with being wrong is that it feels an awful lot like when you're right. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 06:37:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5B19B4E9F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 06:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16774D31 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 06:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from [67.49.10.59] ([67.49.10.59:23898] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 88/A3-19792-D4DA1C55; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 06:29:40 +0000 Message-ID: <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:29:28 -0700 From: Cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 06:37:01 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > Quoting Cary : > >> David Benfell wrote: >>> Quoting CeDeROM : >>> >>>> Hello David :-) >>>> >>>> EFI is different than MBR/BIOS. I did not manage to boot Grub2/Linux on my >>>> new EFI machine. Only FreeBSD and Windows starts. >>> >>> It *is* a very weird and poorly documented process and I haven't actually >>> checked to see yet if I succeeded in getting grub to work. >> >> Do you see any output after running grub-mkconfig(8) ? > > Yes, and this (but see below for the resulting grub.cfg) looks like more trouble: > > home-desktop# grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg > Generating grub configuration file ... > Found kernel of FreeBSD: /boot/kernel/kernel > Found kernel module directory: /boot/kernel > grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/da0p1. Check your device.map. > grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/da1p1. Check your device.map. > done > > I don't have even the first idea why it's looking for /dev/da0p1 or /dev/da1p1. > I've tried both creating /boot/grub/device.map with just an entry for /dev/ada0 > and deleting it. > > I managed to copy in the EFI directory from my other local system. I'm in the > middle of stuff right now, so I haven't yet tested this. grub-mkconfig does, > however, create /boot/grub/grub.cfg which, among other things, appears to > contain entries (see below) for Windows (and Dell) stuff. > > And grub-install appears to work: > > home-desktop# mount /boot/efi > home-desktop# grub-install --target x86_64-efi /dev/ada0 > Installing for x86_64-efi platform. > Installation finished. No error reported. > home-desktop# ls -al /boot/efi/EFI > total 192 > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jan 21 2015 . > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Dec 31 1979 .. > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jan 21 2015 Boot > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jul 5 2014 Dell > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jan 21 2015 Microsoft > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Aug 4 17:01 grub > > One thing that is surprising is that I am no longer having to switch the > partition type back and forth between bios-boot and efi. I don't know what > changed here--oops. > > grub.cfg contains: > > home-desktop# cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg > # > # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE > # > # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates > # from /usr/local/etc/grub.d and settings from /usr/local/etc/default/grub > # > > ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/00_header ### > insmod part_gpt > if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then > load_env > fi > set default="0" > > ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/41_custom ### > ### BEGIN /usr/local/etc/grub.d/50_otherbe ### > ### END /usr/local/etc/grub.d/50_otherbe ### > > I'm hoping for the best. As soon as I get through with all this other stuff, > I'll attempt a reboot and see if I can actually get into 1) grub, and 2) > Windows. The latter, as previously mentioned, might fail because the files I > copied in are from Windows 8.1 rather than Windows 10. > > I do have another Windows 10 installation lying about but I haven't found how > reliably to get into the firmware to boot it under something else that will let > me actually copy the files from its EFI partition. This other system is a > super-cheap Asus laptop and Google is not being my friend. > It looks ok. Not much trouble. We'll know when you reboot. In meantime you might also run $ grub-probe --target=fs_uuid --device /dev/ada0p5 If the command returns a uuid you might be able to use it in the grub.cfg that you have. -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 08:16:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AD49B4A3A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B79DE75B; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.135.10] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMts0-00007O-QI; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:16:17 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t758GFYL016974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:16:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t758GFcI016973; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:16:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:16:15 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg installation && adduser Message-ID: <20150805081615.GA16933@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150804071742.GA35753@c720-r276659> <2625928.x9bsQ44ZxQ@desk8.phess.net> <20150804185443.GA2304@c720-r276659> <55C12554.4030407@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <55C12554.4030407@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.135.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 08:16:23 -0000 El día Tuesday, August 04, 2015 a las 09:49:24PM +0100, Matthew Seaman escribió: > On 04/08/2015 19:54, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Thanks! I found this too after reading https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng > > Maybe the special (yaml) form of the file +MANIFEST did not helped me to > > find with grep the useradd commands; the file is only one long line :-( > > > > pkg info -R pkgname > > or > > pkg info -RF pkgname.txz Thanks, very nice. If someone knows that the scripts are packaged into the file +MANIFEST ... Maybe the man page for pkg-info should say ... -R, --raw Display the full manifest (raw) for the packages matching pkg-name, which gives as well the scripts for pre- and postinstall and other files. ... -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 No! Nein! ¡No! Όχι! -- ΕυχαÏιστοÏμε! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 08:21:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78A39B4B3B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) Received: from nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5601AC94 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s2048; t=1438762726; bh=0wOEpr4GfgxW2LzPq57nVyNsUlLXLo+fLRmyoPHwyOA=; h=Date:From:To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=VJm0MpmqiP2mlen3rHIW2Xof4eOodGj1eeYMjnK3Oicd/pVtMTtZatAXhW6gTvui85EwajxbiNmxIOUI6j2AFFr87vP76HcZGo0sSPAz/Rb4jUGzcwPSXTHsLoiOphtl+xcskzUl4/PA7hwSe7wjJE16sqMFXvyLL35rSl9Oa7Xxazsc1pYnVRBmpdY9jk29uLumZnrHCjSNz4I398ejjopxNfw+isWampqpQdl+IrrteF4Ndepl7V4/wG+ulafqFQRe4dycq9+QSzvBNGpkWp5uB/2XtunnJF3VOjKMiEIqV9a4/eQAJhJ0uOWaLPOSTnpQhY4WXZLcyXb7YciEtQ== Received: from [66.196.81.160] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2015 08:18:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.99] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2015 08:18:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2015 08:18:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 64978.96856.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <64978.96856.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0Qm.MuAVM1ltCx4tuIuOO3r5Lv1Rb6XO0Y5Wrj2HoOj44gQ eXerDrFHKsQ6jDGqW9Gt95MqIjEngttS.xjfZoRH.8et0mz53B7XciTJFKtN YaiX9eaeMtIW05uWfuOir1MISim81rXI0usU33aadwH.t9emo6wjjzGErPXw rYsSvChUt_hX6bt66_qLoYEaJoBdtuyDxr07t.cQEd8RtT2X_YZZ_WW1EkB8 hBXp1b3RW6p6_1kbkcB4EX7OxtTv4Rkiqfeh29o_ZuJl1ug4_dn4iSaPpTyU rr9mkxJOIklwq07CNd3yVoyespQpcZQhAzLBB8axlboOKeVuqvh57J1b01wi GOsw.9eIhCxSXIVA_w2WzndKhZjyxpByFDJjDmaQxjf4eyVb07J37GH_iDmZ 0DysY5le6SVyQ8SH.ZR9lJDqFEgU0tAcz.W.Lg7U7zY4MTxx1KbD4_Hs098L lOGDUpnPSFE3fI2UaAKgBMjdJyZhRdey5.n_.jtjsQzTBSGCWropLlXSp2zn sMCHsX4A6rMtQMALZZjLbAFMgNjOPSReXL0ZF00pNXUlbztrdqi06FuxvBPX _8pMWoyo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 08:18:39 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0084B.4000209@bananmonarki.se> Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. [SOLVED] The usb stick is in the trash now. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 08:21:42 -0000 from Warren Block: > Okay. Just to review: > When having trouble writing to a USB stick on FreeBSD, the first thing to > suspect is old partition metadata. That can be removed with 'gpart destroy'. > After that, suspect USB quirks and then hardware problems, in that order. > Very little besides gpart(8) and dd(1) should be needed. Maybe usbconfig(8) > for USB quirks. > I have not found a Linux utility similar to gpart in capability and ease of > use. Some Linux utilities can be useful, but don't reach for them until you > have tried what is available in FreeBSD. And please be careful about applying > Linux remedies in FreeBSD, because they are not identical systems. rodsbooks.com/gdisk I like Rod Smith's gdisk for GPT partitioning, more versatile in creating different partition types: can run on modern MS-Windows, Mac, Linux, and is in FreeBSD ports. I wouldn't give up on a USB stick, unless it's physically broken as happened to me once, until trying it with Linux, one useful version being System Rescue CD (sysresccd.org). I've had USB sticks, including a discontinued Kingston Data Traveler model, that were not readable/writable on NetBSD until a fix, then became not readable/writable on FreeBSD. These USB sticks are OK with Linux (System Rescue CD), and you can even install and boot FreeDOS on one of these USB sticks. 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Not much trouble. We'll know when you reboot. > In meantime you might also run > > $ grub-probe --target=3Dfs_uuid --device /dev/ada0p5 > > If the command returns a uuid you might be able to use it in > the grub.cfg that you have. Thanks for this. It did, and it was different from the one I'd gotten=20=20 from=20gpart. I was wondering why the example I'd found for directly=20=20 loading=20Windows had such a short UUID relative to the one I'd gotten=20= =20 from=20gpart. I now have: home-desktop% cat /usr/local/etc/grub.d/42_custom menuentry "Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/ada0p5)" --class windows --class os= { insmod part_msdos insmod ntfs insmod ntldr set root=3D'(hd0,msdos1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=3Droot 3CE002FBE002BAE2 ntldr=20=20 ($root)/bootmgr=20} I'm getting closer to where I can try a reboot. But still in the=20=20 middle=20of one last thing. --=20 David Benfell --=_htGEc4FLY5PQHKalK0U-PYo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwdSxAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr380QAIHVV9qxX+oOPNowKZBdz+eo WYKHIV904yrU8sYKdGHin/PvnGHkvDdgKx0EZY0wQ6ldUUjJ30xMtebsApSj+q33 lemw0B12J6vJLRr95r/qrOoTA6Qz9VWGYPPphLL+qmQZd7esrEq82+nX4C94dqY9 P0aOw80/bufrEW1vEo22Pb1PeUoF2H5rCsUrlOiAESTOW9lWipT6jUoGHNOp7gua AXy41LXkbtklp01VpdwiLD+36ritoi4LLGF/4yibQFgyii9F428lWlVm25mFDMB4 Uvpv33Um7ameF8ApOp0YowPxOYTCk//g6FbmpNsQxIgxyncj3J7etUqipqSBbZSQ NdtDHq/gbjPpl3vD0Y1fdwF74nrKpIv4YKyilSW+MXoO1wgQsK+vbWXUBHk4db3V qvGO67c+aPMI96rb/kZWz3hXs7QhrUmyqreAhLJGQhsl7qjT4fM0KyZFAwFGm90p TCm2PCqnWqtBVZ1QAOj/HEt56XZpBIBx/4qSskfVwoGTUqgeYcIDPl5kWDN0r5Ga KM43XSARxskQ53kJ7vJNU4k24ncqbZ+ZYzaYdbxqpDN0QFTqZqM2Tt+n2FwdLxyv YyC9aZc3JKarA1FCLnuJ41WAggI5HPsf/xyQDNb1emt61/HLqJDJGoW5+FGwZx9T UbmUkTDyXJcM1o2gTCdG =WVs1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_htGEc4FLY5PQHKalK0U-PYo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 09:58:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC09C9B2C31 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@zahemszky.hu) Received: from smtp-3-out.integrity.hu (smtp-3-out.integrity.hu [212.52.165.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B2E2F1 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@zahemszky.hu) Received: from webmail.integrity.hu (mail-fe-1.integrity.hu [10.1.64.120]) by mail-smtp.integrity.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 072344018C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:20:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from B6tnyXd9mToy5E8K2+rUTdQsxsMXp1sb by webmail.integrity.hu with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 05 Aug 2015 11:20:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 11:20:03 +0200 From: gabor@zahemszky.hu To: Subject: Using autofs -media map with a decent DE Message-ID: <3c72d8f1d35a612947f27c82ece6d265@zahemszky.hu> X-Sender: gabor@zahemszky.hu User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:58:16 -0000 Hi! I upgraded my desktop machine from 10.1 to 10.2-RC2. I love the new autofs master map type of -media. From the command line, I can reach my pendrives and other removable media. But I'd like to know, how to integrate this mechanism into a DE? I use XFCE, but I'm interested in GNOME or KDE, too. Integration: - it means here - when I push a thumbdrive in, I'd like to see a new icon (or more icons, if there are more mountable partitions on the media) on the desktop of the DE; and of course, clicking on that icon, the DE should open the filemanager with the mounted directory of that media); and the other way, most modern DE's filemanager has an "umount" function - so I'd like to know how to use them with autofs - if at all, possible. Thanks, Gábor < Gabor at Zahemszky dot HU > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 10:09:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AC19B308A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpielorz_lst@tdx.co.uk) Received: from smtp.krpservers.com (smtp.krpservers.com [62.13.128.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.krpservers.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DCC9A46 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpielorz_lst@tdx.co.uk) Received: from [10.12.30.106] (vpn01-01.tdx.co.uk [62.13.130.213]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.krpservers.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t75A98hP033284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:09:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz_lst@tdx.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 11:09:00 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Latest 'freebsd-update' - 10.1-RELEASE-p16 kernel module mismatch? Message-ID: <01F8D82C9613A6FA44EBC7DB@[10.12.30.106]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:09:13 -0000 Hi, I just updated my amd64 10.1-RELEASE-p10 system to 10.1-RELEASE-p16. This replaced the kernel, and some modules. After a reboot though - I can't load the 'geom_eli' module (actually, I can't load it's required 'crypto.ko' module more specifically) any more e.g. : " # kldload geom_eli kldload: an error occurred while loading the module. Please check dmesg(8) for more details. " Looking at dmesg, I can see: " link_elf_obj: symbol db_show_table undefined <--- this is crypto.ko linker_load_file: Unsupported file type <--- trying to load KLD geom_eli.ko: depends on crypto - not available or version mismatch linker_load_file: Unsupported file type " The first two lines are from the system trying to chain-load 'crypto.ko' for geom_eli (as it's a requirement) - but that fails to load, and then geom_eli fails (because crypto.ko failed to load). This a known issue? I have source on this box (which also got updated by freebsd-update) - so I tried building GENERIC, and loading the resultant 'crypto.ko' file - but that nets the same error. -Karl From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 10:51:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FE29B3B28 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 043A61106 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by labow3 with SMTP id ow3so25984186lab.1 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 03:51:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JqHNxLlozhGAIx17WjBbYAGjub0thPY4to+2QoGrTpE=; b=1BAfRNQNKj1h0knpk1ef4eBOEgxYmtZbGAUDNpJDMi8V73uHNkrAVGZAbZ3+0K6lFh AFMA5LvdXA7dBS6FS7hc+icfEDxxG7URyQhyTwMeZKEDHcTTzv1zLUq168lUSRAJgmRL nTcnavyOMhna2UCcCwqwKG+NlDz+jOS5KZ+9OtBuTQxuEtQpRo8QT8Lr/uW1Iyl/H5VD PEoSXyEOcvUbXVVrI3mz0TZcuWKiF5978KbVVO3QnMfi99La1MeQXdFmK6AFj9+inej/ Xt1BU7/qlbUQWcyXre+rvUPleKfo9YOzO4C3vIK3JWVP0trmiBlmrZGy2kLL8jdU8l2k ow5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.142.105 with SMTP id rv9mr8614993lbb.11.1438771866014; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 03:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 03:51:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:51:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5_ZB9jS5M30DcThrR4YqNWouDB8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 From: CeDeROM To: David Benfell Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:51:08 -0000 David, I am very curious what you can achieve with GRUB.. I hope it can also make "one menu to run them all" on my EFI system as well :-) :-) Meanwhile, if you want to restore Windows and FreeBSD access I send you my EFI boot partition images - you can DD them in order to recover access to the OS that you can select from BIOS Boot Menu :-) I have created separate EFI boot partition for each OS, so dumping/recovering them was easy :-) http://files.tomek.cedro.info/service/EFI/ Best regards :-) Tomek -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 50M Aug 5 12:34 EFI-BOOT-FREEBSD.dd -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 15K Aug 5 12:37 EFI-BOOT-FREEBSD.dd.7z -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 291B Aug 5 12:35 EFI-BOOT-FREEBSD.gpart -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 100M Aug 5 12:33 EFI-BOOT-WIN7.dd -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 7.6M Aug 5 12:37 EFI-BOOT-WIN7.dd.7z -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 285B Aug 5 12:34 EFI-BOOT-WIN7.gpart -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 52428800 Aug 5 12:34 EFI-BOOT-FREEBSD.dd -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 15698 Aug 5 12:37 EFI-BOOT-FREEBSD.dd.7z -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 291 Aug 5 12:35 EFI-BOOT-FREEBSD.gpart -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 104857600 Aug 5 12:33 EFI-BOOT-WIN7.dd -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 7988110 Aug 5 12:37 EFI-BOOT-WIN7.dd.7z -rw-r--r-- 1 cederom wheel 285 Aug 5 12:34 EFI-BOOT-WIN7.gpart -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 12:07:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6489B349D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE58ACF8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp121-45-10-212.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.10.212]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2015 21:32:13 +0930 Message-ID: <55C1FB41.7010609@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 21:32:09 +0930 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about reported temperatures References: <55C0D003.6060703@hiwaay.net> <55C0E983.5000009@sneakertech.com> <55C11257.2000205@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <55C11257.2000205@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:07:23 -0000 On 05/08/2015 04:56, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> During the subsequent >>> reboots, I got output from healthd saying one of my cores was a bit warm >>> @ 52 (presumably C). However, sysctl reports wildly different temps: On a slightly related note, last months quarterly report mentioned work on the kernel driver for 1-wire sensors. While the initial work was for small boards with armv6, I expect it may be a good time to contact the devs to see if the core sensors code could be related or improved at the same time. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 12:43:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A4B9B3F24; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22b.google.com (mail-la0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD513166; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: by labgo9 with SMTP id go9so27681526lab.3; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 05:43:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=PV05UybVq5VM83iSOuvs2nAXb5lAXwMVtWp5uJ78Buo=; b=TfEB6BDd+6KV/0BcE2n1NfZQDrWZ3IaXhAcVvBUAWM9v6TD61D+VZzVlf6plzX0NhB jphOf6KT2FVnaTLNOAm+843jZF+JhyYitZVGdSQ1PasnRTBIZikjC73IwuIQFFpwsSbs H2eA1Kq5ZfungBbur8B2aLIMWUmQNcGMuixfPpgi1/a1RdXYg56VU10ssquYQhP4aN4i akZEqZG0S73WldEVYhgaaGcTLTWte6tNvp0PgpKA4V2ym/ijSzAD6r8zoXMYKq1wRtvU /CuOOyz0MmV+7/TvaO5RCnd/dNxOYeDKWSL3EMfAWfG0yjcH95o2hqEgZoucbXgIqY1/ qlbg== X-Received: by 10.152.7.206 with SMTP id l14mr9057719laa.3.1438778602557; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 05:43:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.87.194 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Pratik Singhal Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 18:13:03 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Compilation error due to header not found To: freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:43:25 -0000 Hello all, I have used the file "dev/sound/pcm/sound.h" in a kernel driver made for ac97 codec for Allwinner A10. This file further includes the file "dev/sound/pcm/channel.h" which further includes the file "channel_if.h". I have checked in ~HEAD and the file channel_if.h doesn't exist in that particular directory and as a result, I am getting a compilation error when I compile the kernel complaining about the missing file "channel_if.h" . How can I resolve this error ? Regards, Pratik Singhal From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 13:40:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524DA9B4B1D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0762975D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t75De72j006631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:40:08 -0500 Subject: Re: question about reported temperatures To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55C0D003.6060703@hiwaay.net> <55C0E983.5000009@sneakertech.com> <55C11257.2000205@hiwaay.net> <55C1FB41.7010609@ShaneWare.Biz> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <55C21237.8000202@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:45:37 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55C1FB41.7010609@ShaneWare.Biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:40:17 -0000 On 08/05/15 07:08, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 05/08/2015 04:56, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> During the subsequent >>>> reboots, I got output from healthd saying one of my cores was a bit >>>> warm >>>> @ 52 (presumably C). However, sysctl reports wildly different temps: > > On a slightly related note, last months quarterly report mentioned work > on the kernel driver for 1-wire sensors. > > While the initial work was for small boards with armv6, I expect it may > be a good time to contact the devs to see if the core sensors code > could be related or improved at the same time. > > *Booooyah* !!!! I 2nd the motion :-) !!!! -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 14:11:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C439B2279; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nparhar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x229.google.com (mail-pa0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7E761C5B; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nparhar@gmail.com) Received: by pabxd6 with SMTP id xd6so19523841pab.2; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=eDIP0CHkI8/ess4po80AqZxKQq2xmOvGr2GmWQaAcpE=; b=JIqPtlHUra+JzXunFSxc+e7/JWu+QNnot16VSNzaE/lx9Jiienfx/iab4+wrf0sHmD X7wlPCbWa23FyCG2ty+LS0n2M22nWInCqy3bxeubgXtwJ4Fo4GbGRvZJHv+pjEZXe7ST kYLd4a4ORYm3X+Z5Yzauw7rVr//UsWs+tgeor3szuZsqEHUwHJOqgzjFHU5z2UPo84Xs DMllKxObHlubng0+TRdQCHzzAzf5p20rKi0L1+wH780N9Tz1ihbEvjhgOdwhGcAUih73 boIPSmvy8kVeyv//tZSVWZ+tWLnNfEYY0V20o/K/44w1Zqw365GyGLTAn66zRYT+Hoyc 3Wvw== X-Received: by 10.68.203.195 with SMTP id ks3mr19681437pbc.123.1438783912369; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ox ([2601:641:c000:600:3c6d:108a:30a4:3887]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ya3sm3063732pbb.71.2015.08.05.07.11.50 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Aug 2015 07:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 07:11:45 -0700 From: Navdeep Parhar To: Pratik Singhal Cc: freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Compilation error due to header not found Message-ID: <20150805141145.GA21009@ox> Mail-Followup-To: Pratik Singhal , freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:11:53 -0000 On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 06:13:03PM +0530, Pratik Singhal wrote: > Hello all, I have used the file "dev/sound/pcm/sound.h" in a kernel driver > made for ac97 codec for Allwinner A10. This file further includes the file > "dev/sound/pcm/channel.h" which further includes the file "channel_if.h". > > I have checked in ~HEAD and the file channel_if.h doesn't exist in that > particular directory and as a result, I am getting a compilation error when > I compile the kernel complaining about the missing file "channel_if.h" . > > How can I resolve this error ? There is a channel_if.m in the tree. The build system should be able to create channel_if.h from that if you list channel_if.h in SRCS in your Makefile. Regards, Navdeep From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 14:59:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E9B9B2F43; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com (mail-lb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4318518A8; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: by lbbpo9 with SMTP id po9so26204565lbb.2; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=PM00mkPveCgBYximDxpxiA7Y6asNaVazdJsE/iAQuDA=; b=R86e0uJKo14LwcnPtFQXoL6+A+3NvaqzehYSFlJTYlegMPYWc3JUtyNnfClOTGL24S 0jYmj/dy32JqZLCtkU/2YLmr4R5gq6TFuQBmh/9opI9Wdl4VOuBKllMaVQPfQq8XP0WM sE6gcSyDEWt0yF76wGV/WONAn9CAxzun3nlkDikidtQvI+7HW7mWFpbDuv5MAjz0fq4n 4D2CGNM028CJcSCzzr3oRkAR5kNvgwhHvYY6dWCw3M2kqdax1tP/jRbdzTjCzX2eJnoN zCcn79pTQZ1PZG30I9i+XfqRaSFJAUq7FHwrWROS4Jg4fNrIUEYmk/AK5lltuFhr6i/D 3E8g== X-Received: by 10.112.159.162 with SMTP id xd2mr9478257lbb.67.1438786752297; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.87.194 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 07:58:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150805141145.GA21009@ox> References: <20150805141145.GA21009@ox> From: Pratik Singhal Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:28:52 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compilation error due to header not found To: Pratik Singhal , freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:59:14 -0000 Thanks a lot! for the hint! Although, I didn't make any direct changes in SRCS in Makefile, I used "device sound" in the config file used to compile the kernel and the channel_if.h file was generated. Thanks, Pratik Singhal On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 06:13:03PM +0530, Pratik Singhal wrote: > > Hello all, I have used the file "dev/sound/pcm/sound.h" in a kernel > driver > > made for ac97 codec for Allwinner A10. This file further includes the > file > > "dev/sound/pcm/channel.h" which further includes the file "channel_if.h". > > > > I have checked in ~HEAD and the file channel_if.h doesn't exist in that > > particular directory and as a result, I am getting a compilation error > when > > I compile the kernel complaining about the missing file "channel_if.h" . > > > > How can I resolve this error ? > > There is a channel_if.m in the tree. The build system should be able to > create channel_if.h from that if you list channel_if.h in SRCS in your > Makefile. > > Regards, > Navdeep > -- Regards, Pratik Singhal From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 15:01:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B3C9B40EC for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from erouter6.ore.mailhop.org (erouter6.ore.mailhop.org [54.187.213.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 449BE1C1C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [73.34.117.227]) by outbound3.ore.mailhop.org (Halon Mail Gateway) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t75F1TLU020651; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:01:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1438786889.70393.149.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Compilation error due to header not found From: Ian Lepore To: Navdeep Parhar Cc: Pratik Singhal , freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Questions Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:01:29 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20150805141145.GA21009@ox> References: <20150805141145.GA21009@ox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.10 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:01:32 -0000 On Wed, 2015-08-05 at 07:11 -0700, Navdeep Parhar wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 06:13:03PM +0530, Pratik Singhal wrote: > > Hello all, I have used the file "dev/sound/pcm/sound.h" in a kernel driver > > made for ac97 codec for Allwinner A10. This file further includes the file > > "dev/sound/pcm/channel.h" which further includes the file "channel_if.h". > > > > I have checked in ~HEAD and the file channel_if.h doesn't exist in that > > particular directory and as a result, I am getting a compilation error when > > I compile the kernel complaining about the missing file "channel_if.h" . > > > > How can I resolve this error ? > > There is a channel_if.m in the tree. The build system should be able to > create channel_if.h from that if you list channel_if.h in SRCS in your > Makefile. > > Regards, > Navdeep That's the solution if it's a module build that's failing. If the driver is compiled into the kernel, maybe you just need to add "device sound" to your config. -- Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 16:27:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F0A9B43FD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F08D6F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from [67.49.10.59] ([67.49.10.59:15227] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id A5/20-11960-1A832C55; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:24:20 +0000 Message-ID: <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:23:39 -0700 From: Cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:27:35 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > Quoting Cary : >> >> It looks ok. Not much trouble. We'll know when you reboot. >> In meantime you might also run >> >> $ grub-probe --target=fs_uuid --device /dev/ada0p5 >> >> If the command returns a uuid you might be able to use it in >> the grub.cfg that you have. > > Thanks for this. It did, and it was different from the one I'd gotten from > gpart. I was wondering why the example I'd found for directly loading Windows > had such a short UUID relative to the one I'd gotten from gpart. I now have: > > home-desktop% cat /usr/local/etc/grub.d/42_custom > menuentry "Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/ada0p5)" --class windows --class os { > insmod part_msdos > insmod ntfs > insmod ntldr > set root='(hd0,msdos1)' > search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3CE002FBE002BAE2 ntldr > ($root)/bootmgr } > > I'm getting closer to where I can try a reboot. But still in the middle of one > last thing. > > Glad it worked, David! The menuentry looks a lot like what I was about to suggest. Experience with EFI is too limited for me to know what should be done here. I noticed in the grub.cfg that there were many chainload entries created. Might be that one of these will work with the files installed in the efi system partition. A couple of the lines look to me like they could be removed. "insmod part_msdos" -- shouldn't it be part_gpt ?? "set root='(hd0,msdos1)' " -- again, gpt instead of msdos. And the next line sets root, thus I don't think it has to be done here. "ntldr /bootmgr" -- on last line by itself That's all. If you've got it, that will be nice to hear. Cary -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 16:33:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97199B45E2 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B37E10D4 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t75GXNhd035892 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:33:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t75GXMos035889; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:33:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:33:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Bernt Hansson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB stick and some help with it. In-Reply-To: <55C14E80.6040101@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: References: <55BF6AA0.2030802@bananmonarki.se> <55BFAC5D.5070309@sneakertech.com> <55BFEB3E.6000008@bananmonarki.se> <55BFFAE5.8040500@sneakertech.com> <55C006F9.1080106@bananmonarki.se> <20150804084402.941e19ca.freebsd@edvax.de> <55C06621.5010704@sneakertech.com> <55C08361.6080802@bananmonarki.se> <55C0B3CA.50909@hiwaay.net> <55C14E80.6040101@bananmonarki.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:33:23 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:33:27 -0000 On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2015-08-04 14:44, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/04/15 04:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> On 2015-08-04 09:13, Quartz wrote: >>>> Trashed stick or not, you should still download copies of UBCD and >>>> GParted though :) >>> Well, not now. >> >> >> If not now, when? > Probably never.AS long as MBR exist I'm going to use it. Pretty much every partitioning utilty supports MBR. The better ones support MBR and other formats including GPT. GPT is really much easier to use than the older formats, more capable and simpler. >> Those are both fabulous little toolkits to have at your disposal for the >> next time they're needed. > > Never needed them. Nice to have around when needed, though. mfsBSD is sort of a FreeBSD version: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 20:19:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBD59B4C7A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86B38D0F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t75JtpZ4012179 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:55:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:55:51 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-update 9.1 --> 9.3 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:55:52 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 20:19:27 -0000 On Tue, 4 Aug 2015, doug wrote: > First this is on a test system so no harm [or not], no foul. > > I started with an ISO for 9.1, added the security changes and then tried to > update 9.1 --> 9.2. I was given a non-ending series of files in /etc (with no > local changes) to merge. I did half-a-dozen or before stopping the process > and doing a rollback. > > I have two questions: > > (1) uname -a shows: > > FreeBSD chaos.boltsys.com 9.2-RELEASE-p15 FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p15 #0: > Mon Nov 3 20:31:29 UTC 2014 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > while 336 of 354 file show releng/9.1 and none have 9.2. So is it 9.1 > with a false indicator or is it messed up? The system is running the > GENERIC kernel. > > (2) Section 24.2.1. The Configuration File - from the handbook says > > "... The file merge process is a series of diff(1) patches similar > to mergemaster(8), but with fewer options. Merges are either accepted, > open an editor, or cause freebsd-update to abort. When in doubt, > backup /etc and just accept the merges." > > How is this done with freebsd-update? The format of the files presented > must be changed. I have done this (9.1-->9.2) three times after this and can not duplicate the conditions where /etc was not updated, so I conclude user error. There is no way (I am pretty sure) to avoid manually editing each file that the update process presents. In upgrading to 9.2 /usr/lib32 was dropped. This is corrected by adding world/lib32 to freebsd-update.conf. On my last update I tested the src procedures procedures to remove obsolete files. All worked in that nothing was done, the files had been removed and /usr/lib32 was correctly updated with its obsolete files removed by freebsd-update. Next I am doing 9.2-->9.3. This gets: freebsd-update install Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4 exists but is not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/libtool.m4: Not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/ltoptions.m4: Not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/ltsugar.m4: Not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/ltversion.m4: Not a directory Completing this upgrade requires removing old shared object files. Please rebuild all installed 3rd party software (e.g., programs installed from the ports tree) and then run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again to finish installing updates. As I am testing on base base system with no ports or anything other than what was installed by requesting src and lib32 on a from scratch install there is, by definition, no 3rd party stuff. So that leaves some repackaging of bind but I could find nothing in README, UPDATING or associated links on this. A post from Aug 2014 suggests rm /usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4 && mkdir -p /usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4 mkdir -p /usr/src/share/man/man{4,9} Having access to a 9.3 system I know is correct, I found libtool.m4 is indeed a file in 9.2 and a directory in 9.3. On my system the file had been removed and ../share/man had the required directories so creating the directory libtool.m4 only worked for me. My question is, assuming the guy from the Netherlands was not a bind developer/expert how did he know this?? Knowing the answer I will know what to try the next time this error occurs, but I did not get it in real time, nor is it mentioned in the man page or handbook AFAICT. So RTFM does not work. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 5 23:00:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A339B4969 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 23:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5856769 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 23:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 2658A593E550; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 173-11-102-78-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (173-11-102-78-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.11.102.78]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:00:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:00:47 -0700 Message-ID: <20150805160047.Horde.AEKM3t4jlLIUR_vxQ5Gadrl@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: CeDeROM Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: FAILED: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_Cg5gjgNyZyWNp98y44qCoOM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 23:00:54 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_Cg5gjgNyZyWNp98y44qCoOM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting CeDeROM : > David, I am very curious what you can achieve with GRUB.. I hope it > can also make "one menu to run them all" on my EFI system as well :-) > :-) > > Meanwhile, if you want to restore Windows and FreeBSD access I send > you my EFI boot partition images - you can DD them in order to recover > access to the OS that you can select from BIOS Boot Menu :-) Thanks but I wasn't lacking for files. I was lacking the magic--magic apparently missing even from the=20=20 Windows=20recovery disk--to make even Windows bootable. This magic *is*=20= =20 present=20on the FreeBSD install disk, as I discovered when I gave up,=20= =20 wiped=20the disk, and freshly installed FreeBSD on the whole thing. I'll install Windows as a virtualbox guest as soon as I get back on=20=20 site=20and download it from Amazon. (Yes, $119 down the toilet.) By the way, for the folks who've been working so hard on the UEFI=20=20 implementation=20of FreeBSD: It's beautiful. It installed and booted=20=20 perfectly=20(and yes, under the circumstances, I was worried). What *would* be nice is some dual-boot documentation. I'm sure that=20=20 what=20I was trying to do is possible. I just didn't succeed. And having=20= =20 to=20muck with the firmware every time to get into FreeBSD is ugly. Thanks! --=20 David=20Benfell --=_Cg5gjgNyZyWNp98y44qCoOM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwpWfAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr0ngQAKdhkl02lfzfagtB0MxScCV0 hOlFHJBciqQHx+uTIUZXnqom0iZFIsfuPYADtdH0iaRCNaU+ZFXYrZTquRWSJudC xJhQTTDQxK32dIZ7YZjDlPwx6aTq9hJcaKwCY4AGkL/nxXJ43xRXCWHfnoAI8O2X PfSIBACftgZS0TxJ41UtQam/ZqV8+q5CXs1RdkrTk7G1kvw+iePgF/RZ4Av07BXB yVjfPD3XqF7n3BQ1Z7rLqWVyCvoYO6iExU1Eb7mGai8hI8dTORCVyvP1yqTCp8iA xKzvAZOFSyYCSa6PfDHJaW72K9lc6s9gsJ1Lw6sDdlNokPYqFM9irnaLu+L7lY3k +d3ccPmfrx1lyADNaIUVWrRZxkFKkNb9LsLVpZHrdbK3y/hw2yUjaCUT2g1XlI/M Hjr+mTdqTK458dbCpEM9STG9WG/WOqSyzV4BBT9yrKwiGg++BslctgpD3PIJtErN juscuriuQptwpFgp7cHlIoecU92kDzhZ1t2VBPw1RXDUOXK9xSgE8eZu6XTkmuC7 kX2jeAkA5DVp0mh8gXAAaD2hT8YDFBknaboE4DKm9Og0vkgbd6ug4t5H8YBJwk/e JYf2EB8yPqHftE6ybLI/+K9SDcUUymLHEUn/8O9nmY8LAGJHMndNq6LPTHmR+EXf VLCRP9IV7P9wP3Qbx4Um =q350 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_Cg5gjgNyZyWNp98y44qCoOM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 08:13:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6139B40D3 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9ABE51FB3 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id AFC74593E544; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 01:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 2601:645:501:1800:b283:feff:fe96:371c ([2601:645:501:1800:b283:feff:fe96:371c]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:13:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:13:13 -0700 Message-ID: <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> In-Reply-To: <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_ne_lBJ_uGjsUanjZ1f5-VcM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 08:13:14 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_ne_lBJ_uGjsUanjZ1f5-VcM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Cary : > > > That's all. If you've got it, that will be nice to hear. It was weird. In the past, when I've run into difficulty with EFI boot=20= =20 entries,=20efibootmgr (under Linux) has been my friend. This tool can=20=20 add=20boot entries, change the order in which they are attempted, delete=20= =20 boot=20entries, and probably a few other things. So when grub was still missing, I booted into Linux, ran efibootmgr,=20=20 added=20the entry and tried again. The invocation is very specific. You=20= =20 specify=20the drive *and* the partition the efi file is in. No joy. Any entries I added disappeared by the reboot. And just so=20=20 we're=20clear, rebooting to Linux and running efibootmgr confirmed that=20= =20 the=20entries had disappeared. So I got a Windows recovery disk and tried getting *it* to fix the=20=20 boot.=20I tried just about every option there was on that thing. Still=20= =20 no=20joy. It flatly refused. As to your specific points, the system didn't just come with Windows.=20=20 Dell=20adds a bunch of partitions with various utilities and recovery=20=20 programs.=20But there didn't seem to be any way to access them--unless I=20= =20 got=20grub running. Some of those partitions are msdosfs and I'm pretty=20= =20 sure=20that's what grub-mkconfig was responding to. --=20 David=20Benfell --=_ne_lBJ_uGjsUanjZ1f5-VcM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVwxcZAAoJEBV64x4SNmArt+4P/2XaihtBDFzZuUal5h2JUNQq fwR5OvblHos+Ez/lbGpnkjQI8Ki+zEuqAlvo/Ph4gT7H5eZUafFnp4VR9E8uQKJW nq9fV+18Tp3RsbXymycbj+kP8XfQcz2KzqVX9YDbn5XyPJVMqTVxjnDRSRTKXoHM TkXM/Y/Ln/cmXPRmLIxL0rGVjCxW3ryw1EoEjvp3yHazMnLce9rbzeoJfrDcvhZY /wJ4ylqdFaE+cAxM0J08y9eDHGK/4HNGIaNP1Gke2isOEg5WdVdDtkjSkL5PgvoN GxuvNyrmzdmPSS3t3GTrvCH/Cs04mPt1BPxocGLYnR0gTlcPhOVXpEFX0a9N/Mdr 7tDKps7YGElAYPPRnfyQT7wj7NEuxF5XHM7lkEuNQaUzGW2Z9gCDimoS4MpwBNSn cYPb39x4sDTpRN/xlAgJ8MWrbc2vX0siOq4Ohg2yWo6HwvKBOu0qsOVtRGaipNpj 5ZJMkcNwoOVy0jGEjKyGFh4/1H0Ny6nY1PopTc/XAa33MLHKRGME56DblNKXjJAv leWLsmfpeFplv0EUUuKgznk22lVyVtvT86zR80rXLfyT9YOKDDhoz00EQnCGAdaC /ned/rDDK5YkYN+fmkEioY886cpi+FqcHrn5ZXho9i+frI4mQX3+wYtsQCSXL0M6 cXm6YSXMZ5UqpdUkpQbo =f+6l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_ne_lBJ_uGjsUanjZ1f5-VcM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 11:54:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BA79B347A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk (shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk [82.71.205.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90FB21EFE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from [88.97.55.211] (port=24889 helo=localhost) by shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNIe7-004Kal-45 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 11:43:43 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:43:35 +0100 From: Anthony Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acampbell.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk: authenticated_id: ac@acampbell.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 11:54:10 -0000 My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. This didn't work. I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no result. Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell http://www.acampbell.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 12:42:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEA09B49AE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 212DE1B93 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t76CgRK2047690 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Aug 2015 06:42:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t76CgRrT047687; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 06:42:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 06:42:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Anthony Campbell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Aug 2015 06:42:27 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:42:45 -0000 On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: > My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of > months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. > > Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only > detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 > > After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which > involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. > This didn't work. > > I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no > result. > > Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? That will work temporarily. The scanner might not always appear at 0.2, though. A similar way of doing this is to make your normal user a member of the operator group, and assign all USB devices to that group with /etc/devfs.rules: add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 12:57:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139C39B4D2D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@olivarim.com) Received: from mo5.mail-out.ovh.net (mo5.mail-out.ovh.net [178.32.228.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDA311A7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@olivarim.com) Received: from mail422.ha.ovh.net (gw6.ovh.net [213.251.189.206]) by mo5.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 55831FF93E4 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:20:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (HELO queueout) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Aug 2015 14:20:41 +0200 Received: from 112-172-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr (HELO nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com) (lists@olivarim.com@109.190.172.112) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 6 Aug 2015 14:20:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:19:31 +0200 From: Marin Bernard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld failure on FreeBSD 10-STABLE Message-ID: <20150806121931.GA933@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 5843139043277758213 X-Ovh-Remote: 109.190.172.112 (112-172-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekfedrvddvucetufdoteggucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenuc X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekfedrvddvucetufdoteggucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenuc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:57:05 -0000 Hi, I've been trying for several days to build world for FreeBSD 10-STABLE (r286362 and several older revisions) from FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE. Each time, thee build process fails at libntp (see logs below). Below are some clues about my system. Am I missing something? Thanks! # cat /etc/make.conf WITH_PKGNG="YES" # uname -a FreeBSD nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com 10.1-RELEASE-p16 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p16 #0: Tue Jul 28 12:04:19 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # ls /usr/obj ls: /usr/obj: No such file or directory # make buildworld cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/lib/isc/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/lib/isc/unix/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/lib/isc/pthreads/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/sntp/libopts -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../lib/libc/amd64 -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../lib/libedit/edit -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../ -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/ -DHAVE_BSD_NICE -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DSYS_FREEBSD -DPARSE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DOPENSSL -DUSE_OPENSSL_CRYPTO_RAND -DAUTOKEY -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-unused-const-variable -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c -o lib_strbuf.o /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:1: error: unknown type name 'libbufstr' libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; ^ /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:25: error: use of undeclared identifier 'LIB_NUMBUF' libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; ^ 2 errors generated. *** Error code 1 Stop. make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp *** Error code 1 Stop. make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp *** Error code 1 Stop. make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.sbin *** Error code 1 Stop. make[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 --- Marin Bernard From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 14:08:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF6A9B4E69 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78BB87CD for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 1S7V1r00X07iGuj01S7WgZ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:07:32 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D8A431244B; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:07:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:07:29 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Anthony Campbell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150806140729.GA40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:08:46 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:43:35AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of > months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. >=20 > Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only > detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 >=20 > After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which > involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. > This didn't work. >=20 > I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no > result. >=20 > Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? Here is what I did to fix USB and CD-ROM/DVD access problems. 1) Created groups =E2=80=9Cusb=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9Ccdrom=E2=80=9D and added m= y user-id to those groups. pw groupadd usb pw groupadd cdrom pw groupmod usb -m pw groupmod cdrom -m 2) Added the following to the file /etc/devfs.rules: [custom_rules=3D10] add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'pass*' mode 0660 group cdrom 3) Activated this ruleset in /etc/rc.conf: devfs_system_ruleset=3D"custom_rules" 4) reboot to activate the new ruleset and rules. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVw2oZAAoJEED21dyjijPgMJgP+wXVmPoyWjCRku+3VcWM6a20 v2K+mIC8nQheSNFsucu36yDqm3FGrCd7A8ZHKFksVxyJtJedVJBS2JGE/3R4Mrmj m7eo+Dx/NLl9QYMiXNEHLZ0ee5V9pLdguGiaMrbnNBBawMlr6MFaXkyFhSCL7azU mXGrkY/kyXrFlqYVg/i5aKWIcbQZwfnukCs0KRZ34HylwvkulkgsOHjVz0LksrmP LqRb6uuhY8akzxDdUK+C6gX+B5UPC6TD/fxbT0xxWi+3g/caozgT3TZ2r7aLdT4P Jo/1FICOvJsyU9D4+P0yasdNm7OMEmZ3HzNRynDgIcBSJRiMIn+4ltaySib37r5Q FDoyWRrF6RfmkM9ehKU+y6uNb5eqNg7u4vOdwECvN39xsDIXmxlE2bAuqTPHVrV1 9FDOu2QMlhZHN0zIkJm7kPeT4PY3sZf0/QebwNs0OePMOiqQmk0S2x3l0EBzHkAT kGiP4G9d5uvyrbn6R3gQcdFS/zoAHwYeoVuPJueqapuqGCrcjkmm3CRJpSUi4Zff T09FJypRmK9C0KNvXV6kKBCt8LGK3k0cfiM772CMPyk37JAwPCMkudEJcIqqiPLd eum/oPBnIDnnUTfuGUMhOcf1LV0T01eKLN3NIGm0RADRbpkddqUj4iCDxJsPhJe1 rRAAtRQfVp2G7WfSUchV =jEgk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 14:16:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7101F9B41EB for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 095AD11CE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 1SFQ1r00F07iGuj01SFRxQ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:15:25 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 63C251244B; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:15:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:15:24 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Marin Bernard Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld failure on FreeBSD 10-STABLE Message-ID: <20150806141524.GB40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Marin Bernard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806121931.GA933@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150806121931.GA933@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:16:37 -0000 --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 02:19:31PM +0200, Marin Bernard wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've been trying for several days to build world for FreeBSD 10-STABLE > (r286362 and several older revisions) from FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE. Each > time, thee build process fails at libntp (see logs below). > > Below are some clues about my system. Am I missing something? Thanks! >=20 > # cat /etc/make.conf > WITH_PKGNG=3D"YES" Anything in your /etc/src.conf? > # uname -a > FreeBSD nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com 10.1-RELEASE-p16 FreeBSD > 10.1-RELEASE-p16 #0: Tue Jul 28 12:04:19 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > # ls /usr/obj > ls: /usr/obj: No such file or directory >=20 > # make buildworld >=20 > > cc -O2 -pipe > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:= 1: > error: unknown type name 'libbufstr' > libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; > ^ This type is typedef-ed in /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h: typedef char libbufstr[LIB_BUFLENGTH]; > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:= 25: > error: use of undeclared identifier 'LIB_NUMBUF' > libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; > ^ This is defined in /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h as well: #define LIB_NUMBUF 16 Make sure that /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h exists and it not empty. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVw2v8AAoJEED21dyjijPgQPAP/R3pIrWwvLy7YxC658Vwwxe0 WYni8j2sWlptUn51yc0oFTAAHGKoFBoOzEU2unep4DKLPk/DRBqpa6P2wcIpzX7N nO0QyDxdifnQqC0xrE/rMy1IgkIXBjX71uPCeeaCa69+ffLsjfhQz/h5pY8TJhSN rKUzjI79OFpkPjJ1tE4DTYJz8S3Y8/AAPqwC/MiOnKP8B+GakxxskG+mHNUGRLAg wKMPg392TEQ6w4vClyCZmJ2kLdT2NRKEhjdQl8HkF7ccRAI8BC2/FB0ImXiRdHe1 8eGY/D3aH+FK8LdCRO8nCFeZayOpoeAS1qDtzUIvs6JpeafjFCB414idVYc55Tde +HIee8gG8I8rPYGjqZo7N7kaJ2NYCazMy5DKmULBaYOnyUg712QqMwNsbzSPaj2S vw5gI2mi19yJhmBJ/4uYQOQmVzd7waPdcO794aJi6Y80m8OIzr75F5harOd8idFl NWirlV3KT6Et3AEvXFF/Wa8Jhx9wuBvn3qWwavP/b0l9vwXOLpaUDy/jjNOhRuXO qw84ehcxeL6Bac+gU5I656AKEudd96cC6iJpyPyqRkpXmXkoT2CHpQhcSLmdATme DhSQiXaCJD4rVB8jRdKw2xj08/Dz8G/RhXNq23CPx3w/Yikt8dwE3q41UcfDBs2s gBKiWMMapkNYPTJ8TKzh =VTwZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 14:41:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADA49B4816 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk (shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk [82.71.205.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5BF11FC7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from [88.97.55.211] (port=36976 helo=localhost) by shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNMMC-0011Sb-KS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:41:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:41:22 +0100 From: Anthony Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150806144122.GB8648@ithaca.acampbell.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acampbell.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk: authenticated_id: ac@acampbell.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:41:28 -0000 On 06 Aug 2015, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > >My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of > >months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. > > > >Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only > >detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 > > > >After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which > >involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. > >This didn't work. > > > >I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no > >result. > > > >Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? > > That will work temporarily. The scanner might not always appear at 0.2, > though. A similar way of doing this is to make your normal user a member of > the operator group, and assign all USB devices to that group with > /etc/devfs.rules: > > add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I've already tried that but it doesn't make any difference. Still I can only find the scanner as root. -- Anthony Campbell http://www.acampbell.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 15:17:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303F79B430A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@olivarim.com) Received: from 1.mo5.mail-out.ovh.net (1.mo5.mail-out.ovh.net [188.165.57.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E91CE1BEB for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@olivarim.com) Received: from mail422.ha.ovh.net (gw6.ovh.net [213.251.189.206]) by mo5.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 50195FF8DE2 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:07:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (HELO queueout) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Aug 2015 17:07:22 +0200 Received: from 112-172-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr (HELO nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com) (lists@olivarim.com@109.190.172.112) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 6 Aug 2015 17:07:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:06:12 +0200 From: Marin Bernard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld failure on FreeBSD 10-STABLE Message-ID: <20150806150612.GB933@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> References: <20150806121931.GA933@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> <20150806141524.GB40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150806141524.GB40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 8658170284766486277 X-Ovh-Remote: 109.190.172.112 (112-172-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekfedrvddvucetufdoteggucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenuc X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekfedrvddvucetufdoteggucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenuc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:17:06 -0000 Hi, Thanks for answering me. On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:15:24PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 02:19:31PM +0200, Marin Bernard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've been trying for several days to build world for FreeBSD 10-STABLE > > (r286362 and several older revisions) from FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE. Each > > time, thee build process fails at libntp (see logs below). > > > > Below are some clues about my system. Am I missing something? Thanks! > > > > # cat /etc/make.conf > > WITH_PKGNG="YES" > > Anything in your /etc/src.conf? > This file does not exist: # cat /etc/src.conf cat: /etc/src.conf: No such file or directory > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com 10.1-RELEASE-p16 FreeBSD > > 10.1-RELEASE-p16 #0: Tue Jul 28 12:04:19 UTC 2015 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > # ls /usr/obj > > ls: /usr/obj: No such file or directory > > > > # make buildworld > > > > > > cc -O2 -pipe > > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:1: > > error: unknown type name 'libbufstr' > > libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; > > ^ > > This type is typedef-ed in /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h: > > typedef char libbufstr[LIB_BUFLENGTH]; > > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:25: > > error: use of undeclared identifier 'LIB_NUMBUF' > > libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; > > ^ > > This is defined in /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h as well: > > #define LIB_NUMBUF 16 > > Make sure that /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h exists and it not > empty. The file does exist. It contains both the #define macro and the typedef: % cat /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h | grep -n LIB_BUFLENGTH 14:#define LIB_BUFLENGTH 128 16:typedef char libbufstr[LIB_BUFLENGTH]; % cat /usr/src/contrib/ntp/include/lib_strbuf.h | grep -n "#define LIB_NUMBUF" 13:#define LIB_NUMBUF 16 I use snvup to pull the source. It never reported any sync error. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 15:17:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CE49B4352 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9D941D7D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t76FHR3q086494 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:17:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t76FHRiw086491; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:17:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:17:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Anthony Campbell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: <20150806144122.GB8648@ithaca.acampbell.uk> Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806144122.GB8648@ithaca.acampbell.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Aug 2015 09:17:27 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:17:45 -0000 On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 06 Aug 2015, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: >> >>> My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of >>> months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. >>> >>> Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only >>> detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 >>> >>> After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which >>> involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. >>> This didn't work. >>> >>> I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no >>> result. >>> >>> Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? >> >> That will work temporarily. The scanner might not always appear at 0.2, >> though. A similar way of doing this is to make your normal user a member of >> the operator group, and assign all USB devices to that group with >> /etc/devfs.rules: >> >> add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator > > Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I've already tried that but it > doesn't make any difference. Still I can only find the scanner as root. Maybe I forgot something. I have an Epson 1640SU which works fine here. The only other setting in /etc/devfs.rules that might matter is add path 'xpt*' mode 0660 group operator From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 15:41:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344BC9B4C24 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk (shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk [82.71.205.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEB86132D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from [88.97.55.211] (port=29364 helo=localhost) by shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNNIc-001G9J-Lp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:41:44 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:41:45 +0100 From: Anthony Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150806154145.GB15301@ithaca.acampbell.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806144122.GB8648@ithaca.acampbell.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acampbell.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk: authenticated_id: ac@acampbell.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:41:50 -0000 On 06 Aug 2015, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > >On 06 Aug 2015, Warren Block wrote: > >>On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: > >> > >>>My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of > >>>months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. > >>> > >>>Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only > >>>detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 > >>> > >>>After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which > >>>involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. > >>>This didn't work. > >>> > >>>I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no > >>>result. > >>> > >>>Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? > >> > >>That will work temporarily. The scanner might not always appear at 0.2, > >>though. A similar way of doing this is to make your normal user a member of > >>the operator group, and assign all USB devices to that group with > >>/etc/devfs.rules: > >> > >> add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator > > > >Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I've already tried that but it > >doesn't make any difference. Still I can only find the scanner as root. > > Maybe I forgot something. I have an Epson 1640SU which works fine here. The > only other setting in /etc/devfs.rules that might matter is > > add path 'xpt*' mode 0660 group operator Nope, still nothing as user. The scanner works OK on both OpenBSD and ArchLinux. Just in case I've misunderstood the format for /etc/devfs.rules, here is what I'm using: [system=5] add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator add path 'xpt*' mode 0660 group operator I am a member of the operator group. -- Anthony Campbell http://www.acampbell.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 16:42:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D1D9B422C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D5511D06 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t76Gg7Xp007944 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:42:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t76Gg7Bc007941; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:42:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:42:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Anthony Campbell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: <20150806154145.GB15301@ithaca.acampbell.uk> Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806144122.GB8648@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806154145.GB15301@ithaca.acampbell.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Aug 2015 10:42:07 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:42:26 -0000 On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 06 Aug 2015, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: >> >>> On 06 Aug 2015, Warren Block wrote: >>>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Anthony Campbell wrote: >>>> >>>>> My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of >>>>> months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. >>>>> >>>>> Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only >>>>> detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 >>>>> >>>>> After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which >>>>> involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. >>>>> This didn't work. >>>>> >>>>> I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no >>>>> result. >>>>> >>>>> Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? >>>> >>>> That will work temporarily. The scanner might not always appear at 0.2, >>>> though. A similar way of doing this is to make your normal user a member of >>>> the operator group, and assign all USB devices to that group with >>>> /etc/devfs.rules: >>>> >>>> add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator >>> >>> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I've already tried that but it >>> doesn't make any difference. Still I can only find the scanner as root. >> >> Maybe I forgot something. I have an Epson 1640SU which works fine here. The >> only other setting in /etc/devfs.rules that might matter is >> >> add path 'xpt*' mode 0660 group operator > > > > Nope, still nothing as user. The scanner works OK on both OpenBSD and > ArchLinux. Just in case I've misunderstood the format for > /etc/devfs.rules, here is what I'm using: > > > [system=5] > add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator > add path 'xpt*' mode 0660 group operator > > I am a member of the operator group. Okay, let's compare. I have /usr/local/etc/sane.d/epson.conf # WB usb 0x04b8 0x010a /etc/devfs.conf perm xpt0 0660 /etc/devfs.rules # WB [localrules=10] add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group operator add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator add path 'xpt*' mode 0660 group operator Maybe that ugen entry is important. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 17:30:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475319B4E7C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B31488 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@SDF.org) Received: from [67.49.10.59] ([67.49.10.59:65177] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 99/95-21417-1C993C55; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:30:45 +0000 Message-ID: <55C399A6.4030905@SDF.org> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 10:30:14 -0700 From: Cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:30:52 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > Quoting Cary : >> >> >> That's all. If you've got it, that will be nice to hear. > > It was weird. In the past, when I've run into difficulty with EFI boot entries, > efibootmgr (under Linux) has been my friend. This tool can add boot entries, > change the order in which they are attempted, delete boot entries, and probably > a few other things. > > So when grub was still missing, I booted into Linux, ran efibootmgr, added the > entry and tried again. The invocation is very specific. You specify the drive > *and* the partition the efi file is in. > > No joy. Any entries I added disappeared by the reboot. And just so we're clear, > rebooting to Linux and running efibootmgr confirmed that the entries had > disappeared. > > So I got a Windows recovery disk and tried getting *it* to fix the boot. I tried > just about every option there was on that thing. Still no joy. It flatly refused. > > As to your specific points, the system didn't just come with Windows. Dell adds > a bunch of partitions with various utilities and recovery programs. But there > didn't seem to be any way to access them--unless I got grub running. Some of > those partitions are msdosfs and I'm pretty sure that's what grub-mkconfig was > responding to. > > Very sorry to learn that the multiboot did not succeed. I was a little worried. Its not a simple task, but it isn't very difficult to make a rescue cd or usb stick using grub. I wish I had thought to recommend that. Possibly you would not have had to wipe away the oem's partitions. In any case there's the option to start over thanks to bsdinstall(8). -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 18:01:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B482E9B552D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FA3D34B for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by labjt7 with SMTP id jt7so36308040lab.0 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 11:01:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5tKOLbu3LmG7m+Lha/w3/wXUzdB988EiWkDZVTfdVWY=; b=m3htReTfHVtYjTQ9uQNEcf/P6B5DZZd3Zez1N1MnCKQJXmpsQAgItCL1oFVtuFc2ho a8WMt+1rA0QLRe36elTKFtk7u5FU3LaHPbUihb+nIr5pG3GAvHoFSnmGNqwydhV62sbp ox7+2+PKp5h2OlOw7X6SIL6CEfKpmM6Mbj7XviPEjNxPSjGqPFGH+FBe5QaZK1vQlHjT YIYlngw3ZMjGMZ4hcrdVPH2qEbO1eShlcCmBKFsrBkpByEob7Dku7Vq41Ra/0udaGVih ambW6ZUknNrsN/zLJJ3xwmALzVfr/w3rbmVlpyzGEKuG7EjK6c+vNBPQiHEfCjFFnJ+2 JvYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.5.197 with SMTP id u5mr3678150lau.94.1438884063051; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 11:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:01:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:01:01 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: upnRjquCCVTN-XZXUiO7YH3MNms Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 From: CeDeROM To: David Benfell Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 18:01:05 -0000 Start System Factory Recovery. Use Boot Menu or mark Recovery partiton active to make it start Recovery :-) Have you tried to DD from my Windows EFI partition image? -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 19:37:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993419B5C71 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DA4224E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 97191593E544; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 2601:645:501:1800:b283:feff:fe96:371c ([2601:645:501:1800:b283:feff:fe96:371c]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:37:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:37:39 -0700 Message-ID: <20150806123739.Horde.1xi8d1-jLyHb11lgYuF2FIC@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: CeDeROM Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_tB5d97cepShiBZ7v7fZvUME"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:37:40 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_tB5d97cepShiBZ7v7fZvUME Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting CeDeROM : > Start System Factory Recovery. Use Boot Menu or mark Recovery partiton > active to make it start Recovery :-) > > Have you tried to DD from my Windows EFI partition image? It's too late now. Everything is overwritten. The boot menu didn't offer the options. And I looked for a way to mark=20= =20 the=20partitions active, but couldn't find it with GPT file systems. The=20= =20 man=20page made it seem to be for a MBR file systems, not GPT, and gpart=20= =20 returned=20an error when I attempted it anyway. Here again, the documentation needs help. The information is much,=20=20 much=20too scattered. --=20 David=20Benfell --=_tB5d97cepShiBZ7v7fZvUME Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVw7eDAAoJEBV64x4SNmArtE4QAL+dotI+abblqz4XFfjycrEE pWZqg5qxnLTq7k/Bsiwf9dcm0Lm5y2gaqvL5Jr4RBUDMRkl7P6NDfQn7lYarJT1p lYEFbKzaarK5tRFbzfF9Er59nyU+gfHc+Q+pu9Y6pfoE253LJplbrhlAhivNf9tE y+REhX8GCbbi0knYE3UPRaTaP119nLOkG7hKjQjfOaIIT0yQ1ZT7W/2gW5E1NmdW njr39Ng4zgW8W32tMmSVjS7m1CHxChIE5dJtqDqeInqygtyjfwhYuD1R9FYjsaNw wddhXLcddMypwTuT6ZOK65GGdQ2KWH24uB6i7PvdXAWHPSVFF/x0kmum8CyywxUP iO7iyaDg+XzLJCQisc3RWyA0sXg3q8fzYrITUbBUMwUJNdJapMZn6BsN4gvU+FWP XS80tdn4EFGb7zMzsMpmDFnx1pq4Xecmr/iAM9W7ljH8oQX6uw4FMr0hjDUlNrff B/CJ3JhQZwAPnAO0CAPiWfq5FrRd+/AaddU3xJfj3yLsmt7kCe0LRVYc1AW5hVKx kv5looDcHizz4uYTQJg6lDtjWCaAENQgXQBeA4uHJljlsR2x02hFYnIS7GegmiP1 vmzW8llydoCMZtXX4y+5Rl+jaHzjeeh6qXqGe4KKQOE6jNr2REGTLqW/6eTEjj2+ K7zfPxVVIsVy+hlHlalC =tu4J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_tB5d97cepShiBZ7v7fZvUME-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 20:24:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCA69B4898 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x229.google.com (mail-lb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F40331C1 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by lbbyj8 with SMTP id yj8so49485769lbb.0 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:24:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9cyhTViGJBJxpgNQKPSXjmh8uiNVFyG1ep2CbHQg8Dc=; b=MQgWNN1DD5m7QsVr2JRS4iultDlkTo74DLp+YpeY+YUDpysFhGTF94aE+B8gf9dxMi 9sNuwhDj1uQxAfYkH2NtdpHwVaGE24MDqxQvTpRcQFJtJHgpMcbKL2dmIiuLheYVzwtS +NuqEEbxwbdV32Np+DGWO8O0WFjmPl/g2W/Kbzu1+IuKHTYUAktYsPZ3Oq+pT1ZgH8SY IvXNMnkwkzc3+dPvJol4WeztEMDtWzACoP2GF9eW3GKQuU+gg3tiwX2yI8YqhPhQpyod 0LrEtaWfmapm8rhg8SYxhno30UyaBFWQS96M7wb1XO6ILcyJAZteabqIqxYRejQXBiAD Vk1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.161.197 with SMTP id xu5mr4171193lbb.69.1438892652786; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:24:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150806123739.Horde.1xi8d1-jLyHb11lgYuF2FIC@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150806123739.Horde.1xi8d1-jLyHb11lgYuF2FIC@mail.parts-unknown.org> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 22:24:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6rtO1yASutG4Chf30Bpph5lONLo Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 From: CeDeROM To: David Benfell Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:24:15 -0000 One partition would allow to run FreeBSD and other run Windows. You can try to dd them with a FreeBSD installer shell. Then select what partition to boot from bios menu. For me Grub2 boot menu that whould show OS does not work on EFI. So I use BIOS Boot Menu (F8 on POST). EFI is something new :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 20:31:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BB69B4AFF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com (mail-lb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D99E7BF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by lbbyj8 with SMTP id yj8so49589784lbb.0 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:31:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; 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charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:31:48 -0000 If you have Dell machine, maybe a restore disk from Inspiron15 would help you a bit :-) http://files.tomek.cedro.info/service/dell/Inspiron15/dell-inspiron15-win8-restore.iso.7z -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 20:45:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42CC9B4E4E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40F65DE5 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([24.134.51.19]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIhDo-1ZPexx1qkS-002H9K; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:45:25 +0200 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Anthony Campbell Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:45:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p16; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:h+8pzrZrZ49jxDsHeqY8ZDmi/im5FhdpWGnSE85sPUxhunmdszO TpdfSqwb1cPQbFXH/+ryNWyrrHRWe7btn33IAUS3XqJXNdaWlMG/7wre9hfVZ+y/bOCmFm9 cMVBgz/NcxDx1F2omOqqMCoDzPtfYDGdxMLDT6wb6D6F1h4XsdsFtkUKN1T61rbnKtsrcnh aniypfhHnv6xruejLK76A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:GRQPv9PPkIk=:qjuUSBB3bu/pZitb/ETvY0 S0BEpjiuKagoyILzlf7l/ut0sh2/A1I+TueAFdqd8W2PyzkxcmXQ5Tl/FcpEHMAWr2xVe1PY+ USu9Uzt85UJwNWLqi9PpY9fY7uVcuv697bP/yzzFC/Zo21bzMWxK/oE6xwwoeucyuzAvyZ9Ss I67cHvYVHxwfKqvtMngHkKKagRjG7L6uNARIVND1jZAQzagj7J5WcrtwN57hzsRD1oVYcHN/2 Tb6U9pCd6zsBERgVRtiFv1xj+gnClD/c3hn2woVAlFWzQ6gOwHiZE8HFg4/pUgFHAy/UTLxzq 5mLqEmJcIVs87jfv7Z7s7r9LmEuXkkhbsSNLoefz9X61s5hNagAB3WhRPOdpXdnQadWUcU+6M 8DeDtO2ZoiqzCbe56MxGarLLbHYTezgn7JzSfA/t6p6tnTGCAPq1U64yMDPKG1U0Ri+XesWrR xP2xUTWJJBcv53wsz6i5nkQpGfK+ec0dJwZjnVRfc29SQCGpjdpFtGtNVuWjI4LtNSjnKRCO8 CZMtCuxveFiRPBGnvRruh+XNI/IB1SXsEYk7bhblr2BJi1nCi++lAi1/ol/mD96NzAJCi0JWK aXqp8HscUmXrxPbCC+yyW+KMZgHKvVPKs3bnli4yd9Q8Be0+uE8BCGhVRwGWbBvEZiwak1DXS gUYgZJJuu9hZmoR7pXleVI/F0DCAcSIIyO+IVSXI/3cTye/LtvX1ufQV7aVvQPEymYsw= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:45:29 -0000 Anthony Campbell wrote: > Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? In contrast to what many other people might suggest, I'm personally not a big fan of providing users broad access to all kinds of device nodes. So instead of messing around with permissions, I prefer to make use of the saned(8) network daemon. This is actually pretty straightforward to set up. You'll need to add these two lines to your /etc/rc.conf: saned_enable="YES" saned_uid="root" Now either reboot the machine or run the following command to start the network daemon right away: # service saned start Then add the following line to /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf: localhost Any non-privileged user should now be able to access the scanner. For starters, try to get a list of scanners available on the server: > scanimage -L device `net:localhost:plustek:libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen1.2' is a Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 flatbed scanner The nice part about using saned(8) is that you can easily make the scanner available to other machines on the network. Just add your network to the server's /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf and then add an entry for the server to the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf on each of the clients. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 21:15:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912229B5601 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 533741FFE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t76LFEor074508 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:15:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t76LFEEF074505; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:15:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:15:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Patrick Hess cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anthony Campbell Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:15:14 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 21:15:32 -0000 On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Patrick Hess wrote: > Anthony Campbell wrote: >> Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? > > In contrast to what many other people might suggest, I'm personally not > a big fan of providing users broad access to all kinds of device nodes. > So instead of messing around with permissions, I prefer to make use of > the saned(8) network daemon. > > This is actually pretty straightforward to set up. You'll need to add > these two lines to your /etc/rc.conf: > > saned_enable="YES" > saned_uid="root" > > Now either reboot the machine or run the following command to start > the network daemon right away: > > # service saned start > > Then add the following line to /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf: > > localhost > > Any non-privileged user should now be able to access the scanner. > For starters, try to get a list of scanners available on the server: > > > scanimage -L > device `net:localhost:plustek:libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen1.2' > is a Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 flatbed scanner > > The nice part about using saned(8) is that you can easily make the > scanner available to other machines on the network. Just add your > network to the server's /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf and then > add an entry for the server to the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf > on each of the clients. This is the kind of stuff we should be adding to the Handbook section on scanners. Thank you for posting it! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 21:40:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9506A9B5C00 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78F39EB0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 289633F731 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:40:04 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 21:40:13 -0000 Not sure if this is the right place to ask mfsBSD questions. I have an old Pentium 4 server and I'm trying to figure out exactly what the cpu is, but I don't want to have to disassemble the whole thing if I can avoid it. Intel's cpuid utility, various linuxen, and wikipedia are giving me conflicting info about the model and 64bit-ness, so I thought I'd see what sysctl had to say and boot mfsBSD. ... except it doesn't work. I tried both 10.0 i386 and 10.1 amd64 and both of them hang. 10.1 amd64 gets to the beastie menu, but regardless if I select multiboot or single user it gets as far as the white-on-blue "Booting..." and then just stops. 10.0 i386 seems to die somewhere in stage two before the menu even appears. It's not a case of corrupt download or borked build because the same jumpdrive boots my other machine just fine. Any thoughts? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 21:56:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCB79B5010 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "PositiveSSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7E5C18FF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.146.246.253] (2.150.56.38.tmi.telenormobil.no [2.150.56.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA8861D8; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:56:14 +0000 (UTC) References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <8BCBAC22-6B6F-4385-8D0F-ACE59D996FD9@elde.net> Cc: FreeBSD questions X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B500) From: Terje Elde Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 23:56:10 +0200 To: Quartz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 21:56:25 -0000 On 6. aug. 2015, at 23:40, Quartz wrote: > It's not a case of corrupt download or borked build because the same jumpd= rive boots my other machine just fine. >=20 > Any thoughts? If you look up the id from cpuid on ark.intel.com, you should get a definiti= ve answer.=20 Aside from that, a 64bit machine will happily run 32bits FreeBSD, so I'd try= that first.=20 Some older machines can be quite picky about their thumbdrives. I'd try 32bi= ts 10.2 RC, on another thumbdrive, and fiddle with BIOS settings if it doesn= 't work.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 22:05:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EB99B5260 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 22:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0600F1E59 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 22:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from slack ([24.116.197.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJByE-1ZP6uN3jxa-002opd; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 00:05:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:04:51 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-ID: <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:489yiaMhN19xVJrCs+TTG6gtErzTSdhagGFxp8dIVNVcTtB1/SP fiEWTL8x9eBlWs7BAACZd+8q9nHXMtkR3ptDhfNoobWuO765neB9qhXTzDyqmBY1W7XpZ1M 1sX2RHsg4JJo+4d9Z10uelNmCu2HdTE9XmNdgz1416TAnhs/RiiS87w3RiQhiw6azz11QY9 zcyNxuVoLr1kKJ7xksxfg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:H/eFIzNBFZ0=:+kfRCpoawNPVFTVIaX6hcW NpEUvT1nNSBM+T7p2NE8O29jkeu0P0evb5WoV03aFy25+j+EgoC8awmUNRK7Ja3Ih8MxpTohs TLBmzA5aWEDO9XVkXwEJw9uHVUD5VsRDP87uwi2PEAFbP6jg4YO04B7ViFnN99pFI5TCsvC8b mOWY4vtkhll5nRACEtxB6CThFEfM32D5M/k2IXhYdKmeOJeMVQIqEHu6g1SAOSbRqHOBmKWjT ZiwtwmVzeWpxCvYfVnfQARRz5bFjemyfCcfwe+7OkS/qFYGHyHhZXRjIwvTBD9u95OiiD7NJB EDUIrurwow42aag6QZ/maROBVak9+adGCkU/xlVTrRLibJVX0dKNg3ow3Rp2yCmp82aUh4Lkl k2mgl6fbBLMrX0Br2IbVmSyhy8+5RzDsXgWYsObZA2v2WQ3DuFI3OBQFfPhwEBKyhP14vtb9U n+S3KlvA3KR//pwRkspxXwe8Zw7r3a9w7ApA0Q1mrtb1ZwWohS9CX+QtVghDu0pd11I1wBGjp tuKHpObj2ENf58OGebSIcQLpjkxnRSbx5+Av2ib92K9C6FhP/dmPOjs5viuMs2TlYBBSvFCEA kl1U/1OKE94CdaG1p/EUjiJ8CBRxJOq9MYI6x/RX1pBMa2I9hIHSCSLvGoZ50lSiRROCYPC/8 e2G+LL2XCqAXJjbvn0qQLvFD01Uc1w6mf22BLrI6Dj1yjag== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:05:10 -0000 On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Quartz wrote: > Not sure if this is the right place to ask mfsBSD questions. > > I have an old Pentium 4 server and I'm trying to figure out exactly what the > cpu is, but I don't want to have to disassemble the whole thing if I can > avoid it. Intel's cpuid utility, various linuxen, and wikipedia are giving > me conflicting info about the model and 64bit-ness, so I thought I'd see > what sysctl had to say and boot mfsBSD. > > ... except it doesn't work. I tried both 10.0 i386 and 10.1 amd64 and both > of them hang. 10.1 amd64 gets to the beastie menu, but regardless if I > select multiboot or single user it gets as far as the white-on-blue > "Booting..." and then just stops. 10.0 i386 seems to die somewhere in stage > two before the menu even appears. It's not a case of corrupt download or > borked build because the same jumpdrive boots my other machine just fine. > > Any thoughts? I'm not sure what this system is running right now, but can you get a dmesg that will advise of the processor attributes? You're looking for "LM," (long mode). If that is there, it is a 64-bit processor. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 6 23:56:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA939B5C79 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 23:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F412156A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 23:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA8B13F746 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C3F43D.5050505@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:56:45 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <8BCBAC22-6B6F-4385-8D0F-ACE59D996FD9@elde.net> In-Reply-To: <8BCBAC22-6B6F-4385-8D0F-ACE59D996FD9@elde.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:56:48 -0000 > If you look up the id from cpuid on ark.intel.com, you should get a > definitive answer. Which "cpuid"? Presumably you don't mean Intel's program (as it already claims to print out that info). > Aside from that, a 64bit machine will happily run 32bits FreeBSD, so > I'd try that first. That didn't help me with mfsBSD 10.0 i386 though. > Some older machines can be quite picky about their thumbdrives. I'd > try 32bits 10.2 RC, on another thumbdrive, and fiddle with BIOS > settings if it doesn't work. Hmm, have had problems with this machine not wanting to boot off a different thumb drive, but I assumed that if it could get a loader on one it was good to go. Maybe I'll try hooking up a usb cd instead (hate to waste a cd on a ~30mb image though). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 00:00:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4513C9B5FBA for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 00:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 279941692 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 00:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45D173F76E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C3F50C.1000803@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:00:12 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> In-Reply-To: <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 00:00:15 -0000 > can you get a > dmesg that will advise of the processor attributes? You're looking for > "LM," (long mode). If that is there, it is a 64-bit processor. Does that work on linux? I can't get a dmesg off bsd until I figure out how to boot it. Also, where exactly am I looking? On a different machine running FreeBSD the only thing in dmesg I see that looks right is "AMD Features=0x20100800". Is that the right line? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 01:20:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32C99B531E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 01:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27E73843 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 01:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from slack ([24.116.197.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lbuo0-1YwBnI2lGO-00jME2; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 03:20:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:20:36 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-ID: <20150807012036.GB3683@slack> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> <55C3F50C.1000803@sneakertech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55C3F50C.1000803@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:J/t8H6199Nb/hp41/yjhatAc9z0MNHyS/msGRPPTStgRIdt20Fn UwwyW12G7bALnz4qyDo8lrGvvDzLZaLTzdmbFKogxhL5W32CDr+OgO6RUz1Vkdgo5Wmq9qe CVMaYCmiNMtIXyXj6ZBgQhpvOx2ISi2ORqnNTodlEeMqnVlEYOXKAlWlRW0TDWXGO9TOTdG bnmH4E7udJPSpF131uR/g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:QSX5iRttGy4=:a05ZP6V6ESZ1qy+2k5UDT5 vY25ui5NIaus0Wtw0kORVTufxx49846T41kH5Q1XGOQ90q4KLN8Li3rLKPbdJAvhjBskzO77l C/dmD95aK4KshYEjvbo9iNGOu5Bvx6K6G2hpKgk1jkg04JmAGxBpHMYBBqJv+ohwIeVGFqCRh oNoHU7JdK+5xyVjeyZsUZFmPNSiSV5ELtCoIgqJnMQQD649kKKId0JZZG/Yiy9T7YvUfxOQ5a q9UP95lbstWnsaiL44q0yFJW63nsVZD7qpCHjFh5e6ri+OsXL8xAvO+ivZwrfyUbG8pjPUjxz G37nCHOz+xVq7DV3WnjshXbZxkebpaonwtt5xhSC0K57cRcvhGDJypUBtQO64+CBLJC6ogUio cNYo/skh3lRRPGPgABReKIaDIoBdE9qh8yA/w1GPoJJIOFU/mthIPes2ev51p2wCVngUzpqNc SUBwIthjEZcHjBrZ2DXdvtcwVmyI96bc2UICD6hX1vCsZF9+s3eJ6jcevgVrHH67YTxJ8RWeO PTM8I1UHhFrGOzh7+RvlzvK2B12xPOGhY5h6J/RKlf/gxtF1kXxiEq6ho34BUiZTyMDjDQS4B gs5/3RDtbwaboISH6iyjdxz5RMgagB9tm2diz2UnZ51mZDhs5bW/MRfj5tXFO3MjfXi6yA+UJ tUoWCIGD7cc9E3bFaH4T2dLq5kskW68I1a12DzAojCSXcBg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 01:20:45 -0000 On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:00:12PM -0400, Quartz wrote: > >can you get a > >dmesg that will advise of the processor attributes? You're looking for > >"LM," (long mode). If that is there, it is a 64-bit processor. > > Does that work on linux? I can't get a dmesg off bsd until I figure out how > to boot it. Also, where exactly am I looking? On a different machine running > FreeBSD the only thing in dmesg I see that looks right is "AMD > Features=0x20100800". Is that the right line? > Seems everyone has a different concept of what should be in a dmesg. Linux may or may not have this info - my Slackware does not seem to, but it does have enough processor information () to search the web for that particular processor's attributes. If you have Linux running, will also work. Freebsd's dmesg at the "Features" and the "AMD Features" you cited will contain that info, and yes, that "LM" means long mode, or in other words, x86_64. A decent explaination is here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43539/what-do-the-flags-in-proc\ -cpuinfo-mean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 01:33:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7F59B5505 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 01:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8A45CDE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 01:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t771XUXM037493 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:33:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t771XU8I037490; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:33:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:33:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Benfell cc: CeDeROM , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: windows entry for grub2 In-Reply-To: <20150806123739.Horde.1xi8d1-jLyHb11lgYuF2FIC@mail.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: References: <20150804034108.Horde._OTrFyjhdRQUM4x9GSp-yLG@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150804132218.Horde.Gj6WjgZdXie82Uv8hJ6DwzP@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1418A.8020904@SDF.org> <20150804201540.Horde.tVjfGgqFaL11N353NCxJOb4@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C1AD48.4060004@SDF.org> <20150805021737.Horde.Aqa-ovKXshlnp4t4PUEB8rw@mail.parts-unknown.org> <55C2388B.8030803@SDF.org> <20150806011313.Horde.2QXs18DRBiA3e2WofhttL83@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150806123739.Horde.1xi8d1-jLyHb11lgYuF2FIC@mail.parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:33:30 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 01:33:32 -0000 On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, David Benfell wrote: > Quoting CeDeROM : > >> Start System Factory Recovery. Use Boot Menu or mark Recovery partiton >> active to make it start Recovery :-) >> >> Have you tried to DD from my Windows EFI partition image? > > It's too late now. Everything is overwritten. > > The boot menu didn't offer the options. And I looked for a way to mark the > partitions active, but couldn't find it with GPT file systems. The man page > made it seem to be for a MBR file systems, not GPT, and gpart returned an > error when I attempted it anyway. > > Here again, the documentation needs help. The information is much, much too > scattered. The first step to documentation is figuring out how to make the thing work. If you can come up with a procedure for setting up UEFI dual-boot with Grub, let's document it. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 03:44:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB2E9B3006 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 03:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: from emailserver2.asdf456.com (emailserver2.asdf456.com [72.18.207.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A39D9B1 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 03:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: (qmail 11901 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2015 03:38:49 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 11885, pid: 11899, t: 0.3503s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO noos.larseighner.com) (75.92.34.9) by emailserver2.asdf456.com with SMTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:38:49 -0700 Received: by noos.larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@noos.larseighner.com; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 03:40:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 03:40:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Highest version with VGA fonts Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 03:44:16 -0000 What is the highest version of FreeBSD which still uses VGA fonts and CONS* consoles (i.e. no raster fonts, no unicode, plain old iso-8859-1) in plain text mode? Is there a BSD branch that is sticking with true text consoles? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 06:11:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C869B535E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 06:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A95EA619 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 06:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-24-166-126-146.neo.res.rr.com [24.166.126.146]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f3302e83; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 02:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5de5501d; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 02:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1438927960.15072.30.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Highest version with VGA fonts From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Lars Eighner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 02:12:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-512"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-EzCFiIKspiKANHaZu/9S" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 06:11:33 -0000 --=-EzCFiIKspiKANHaZu/9S Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 03:40 -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > What is the highest version of FreeBSD which still uses VGA fonts and=20 > CONS* > consoles (i.e. no raster fonts, no unicode, plain old iso-8859-1) in=20 > plain > text mode? Presuming CONS* includes syscons(4), it is still the default in 10.1 -RELEASE. I would expect vt(4) to be the default going forward as it now covers most common use cases (and UTF-8 support is nice). At the moment vt(4) does not support the VGA text mode loadable fonts or VGA vesa features found in syscons(4). It does, however, have a text mode which can be enabled with hw.vga.textmode=3D1 in /boot/loader.conf. I use UTF-8 with it but the feature list mentions ASCII which probably means ISO-8859-1. The vt(4) wiki page specifically mentions that this is merely the current state of things not the end goal. >=20 > Is there a BSD branch that is sticking with true text consoles? Since syscons(4) and vt(4) do support a text modes, if this is not what you mean by 'true text consoles' could you please clarify further? For reference the wiki page for vt(4) (aka Newcons) has a nice chart of current feature status. https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons P.S. 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-0000 > What is the highest version of FreeBSD which still uses VGA fonts and CONS* > consoles (i.e. no raster fonts, no unicode, plain old iso-8859-1) in plain > text mode? > Is there a BSD branch that is sticking with true text consoles? > Lars Eighner Not sure about the current status for OpenBSD, Bitrig and DragonFly, but I know NetBSD (current and releng 7), when booting, quickly switches to small text like what occurs in FreeBSD after switching back from X to text console. FreeBSD, on booting with vt, not yet in X, goes into a larger version of this, somewhat smaller than what comes with syscons. I like the small text better! Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 07:03:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39069B5005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 07:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46EEF1DEE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 07:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t7773Bno040168 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:03:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t7773BiF040165; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:03:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:03:11 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Lars Eighner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Highest version with VGA fonts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 07:03:18 -0000 On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 03:40-0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > What is the highest version of FreeBSD which still uses VGA fonts and CONS* > consoles (i.e. no raster fonts, no unicode, plain old iso-8859-1) in plain > text mode? > > > Is there a BSD branch that is sticking with true text consoles? If you want to enforce the old syscons console in 10 onwards, try adding this line to /boot/loader.conf: kern.vty="sc" -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 07:49:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9EE9B5CA1 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 07:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk (shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk [82.71.205.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 650E6118E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 07:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from [88.97.55.211] (port=30067 helo=localhost) by shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNcOp-000YRO-7f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:49:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:49:08 +0100 From: Anthony Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150807074908.GA4962@ithaca.acampbell.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acampbell.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk: authenticated_id: ac@acampbell.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 07:49:13 -0000 On 06 Aug 2015, Patrick Hess wrote: > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? > > In contrast to what many other people might suggest, I'm personally not > a big fan of providing users broad access to all kinds of device nodes. > So instead of messing around with permissions, I prefer to make use of > the saned(8) network daemon. > > This is actually pretty straightforward to set up. You'll need to add > these two lines to your /etc/rc.conf: > > saned_enable="YES" > saned_uid="root" > > Now either reboot the machine or run the following command to start > the network daemon right away: > > # service saned start > > Then add the following line to /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf: > > localhost > > Any non-privileged user should now be able to access the scanner. > For starters, try to get a list of scanners available on the server: > > > scanimage -L > device `net:localhost:plustek:libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen1.2' > is a Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 flatbed scanner > > The nice part about using saned(8) is that you can easily make the > scanner available to other machines on the network. Just add your > network to the server's /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf and then > add an entry for the server to the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf > on each of the clients. > Thanks very much for this - yes, it works with scanimage -L and xsane, which was the point of this exercise. I'm also grateful to everyone else who has replied to this thread. I'd like to endorse Warren Block's appeal to have this included in the Handbook; it would have saved me a lot of time. (Incidentally, sane-find-scanner seems to be buggy: it still doesn't work as user, while as root it finds not only my Epson scanner but another scanner which I don't have at all!) -- Anthony Campbell http://www.acampbell.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 11:38:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172169B569E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5722B4E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 588F72537D; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:37:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t77Bbqbe002024; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:37:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:37:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-Id: <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 11:38:02 -0000 On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:40:04 -0400, Quartz wrote: > ... except it doesn't work. I tried both 10.0 i386 and 10.1 amd64 and > both of them hang. 10.1 amd64 gets to the beastie menu, but regardless > if I select multiboot or single user it gets as far as the white-on-blue > "Booting..." and then just stops. 10.0 i386 seems to die somewhere in > stage two before the menu even appears. Have you tried - for the sake of an answer - to boot from an older FreeBSD system? It's quite terrible that I would make such a suggestion, but P4 is a rather old platform, so why do you expect it to run a current FreeBSD? Normal answer: Because old platforms still run current FreeBSD. But in this case... I've been using a P4 machine myself for many years, it has been running FreeBSD 5 and 7 (i386 versions only) happily. So what I would suggest: Download FreeSBIE 1.1. This is a live file system CD (yes, not a DVD) that can be booted and doesn't require to be installed. Run "dmesg" and see what CPU features are listed (right at the top). You can also run "sysctl -a | grep cpu" to get more information. When you have verified what P4 model it is, you can take the next steps. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 12:01:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0424D9B1152 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@olivarim.com) Received: from 16.mo5.mail-out.ovh.net (16.mo5.mail-out.ovh.net [87.98.174.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95BABA63 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@olivarim.com) Received: from mail422.ha.ovh.net (gw6.ovh.net [213.251.189.206]) by mo5.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5ACC4FF8FCF for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:01:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (HELO queueout) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Aug 2015 14:01:04 +0200 Received: from 112-172-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr (HELO nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com) (lists@olivarim.com@109.190.172.112) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2015 14:01:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:59:54 +0200 From: Marin Bernard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld failure on FreeBSD 10-STABLE Message-ID: <20150807115954.GA80388@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> References: <20150806121931.GA933@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150806121931.GA933@nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 11384536908607020805 X-Ovh-Remote: 109.190.172.112 (112-172-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekfedrvdegucetufdoteggucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenuc X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekfedrvdegucetufdoteggucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenuc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:01:10 -0000 Hi again, I finally fixed the problem by deleting the whole /usr/src folder and pulling the sources again. I don't know what happened. Thanks to Roland for supporting me. On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 02:19:31PM +0200, Marin Bernard wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying for several days to build world for FreeBSD 10-STABLE > (r286362 and several older revisions) from FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE. Each > time, thee build process fails at libntp (see logs below). > > Below are some clues about my system. Am I missing something? Thanks! > > # cat /etc/make.conf > WITH_PKGNG="YES" > > # uname -a > FreeBSD nic-ppc-marin.cloud.olivarim.com 10.1-RELEASE-p16 FreeBSD > 10.1-RELEASE-p16 #0: Tue Jul 28 12:04:19 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > # ls /usr/obj > ls: /usr/obj: No such file or directory > > # make buildworld > > > cc -O2 -pipe > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/include > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/lib/isc/include > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/lib/isc/unix/include > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/lib/isc/pthreads/include > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/sntp/libopts > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../lib/libc/amd64 > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../lib/libedit/edit > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../ -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/ > -DHAVE_BSD_NICE -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DSYS_FREEBSD -DPARSE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DOPENSSL -DUSE_OPENSSL_CRYPTO_RAND -DAUTOKEY -std=gnu99 > -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body > -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-unused-const-variable > -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality > -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum > -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c -o > lib_strbuf.o > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:1: > error: unknown type name 'libbufstr' > libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; > ^ > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp/../../../contrib/ntp/libntp/lib_strbuf.c:20:25: > error: use of undeclared identifier 'LIB_NUMBUF' > libbufstr lib_stringbuf[LIB_NUMBUF]; > ^ > 2 errors generated. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/libntp > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.sbin > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[2]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > --- > Marin Bernard > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 14:29:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0AD9B556A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF72F8A9 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 80A33CB8CA0; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:28:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.4 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:28:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <20924.128.135.52.4.1438957738.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20150807012036.GB3683@slack> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> <55C3F50C.1000803@sneakertech.com> <20150807012036.GB3683@slack> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:28:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Dutch Ingraham" Cc: "Quartz" , "FreeBSD questions" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 14:29:05 -0000 On Thu, August 6, 2015 8:20 pm, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:00:12PM -0400, Quartz wrote: >> >can you get a >> >dmesg that will advise of the processor attributes? You're looking for >> >"LM," (long mode). If that is there, it is a 64-bit processor. >> >> Does that work on linux? I can't get a dmesg off bsd until I figure out >> how >> to boot it. Also, where exactly am I looking? On a different machine >> running >> FreeBSD the only thing in dmesg I see that looks right is "AMD >> Features=0x20100800". Is that the right line? >> > Seems everyone has a different concept of what should be in a dmesg. > Linux may or may not have this info - my Slackware does not seem to, but > it does have enough processor information () to > search the web for that particular processor's attributes. > > If you have Linux running, will also work. cat /proc/cpuinfo comes to my mind for Linux. Never heard about . Is it one of commands you can use on Linux box? What one need to install to have this command? Valeri > > Freebsd's dmesg at the "Features" and the "AMD Features" you cited will > contain that info, and yes, that "LM" means long mode, or in other > words, x86_64. > > A decent explaination is here: > > http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43539/what-do-the-flags-in-proc\ > -cpuinfo-mean > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 16:29:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D0D9B4591 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 16:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4660FFF for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 16:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from slack ([24.116.197.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MAxyW-1ZVTl73bNM-00A1C2; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 18:29:06 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:28:55 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: Quartz , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-ID: <20150807162854.GA6348@slack> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> <55C3F50C.1000803@sneakertech.com> <20150807012036.GB3683@slack> <20924.128.135.52.4.1438957738.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20924.128.135.52.4.1438957738.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:DnvlppjbNVHhfJx1FpH8XK+Qg8Mo0eshSMKbgefOI7Gh0zGhmM4 guzIKWwUAJ79oWwq/UMkH3iczA9rTubGKp3c25nSqwLh1QXbL0OSBXAv/XF8tIRJjcc4PGF Wb+AYgBqz7Q65iBAcj7OEM49kKaZeohUycxaWztv3z5Mk82rbsKjubbt+icTd2FaCZSJGQb VrGSRK1K064tZPn/uC7dA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:DgD3GbnOSx4=:UIpsp+lh+mvNLyLvpOVXU+ rdjKdcuHsgfB9rJhyU9z8qCxCc7v/ejtGSY9MjE+NGfFSXbLBbSFch/SuyeXao/CEBkNSQ908 8Eu6AzL83cCeEMRfWS/mnGQG0wdtvV0/KCgHVeHJU6JtHmqZPaD/p8Vis6BAkMWbHHBL3FgcV EXwWRLGPks0M/1yH4lTIcNq8Y+6GIRp50hzPb+uwDawzedqtj+pXuRHitbCm1wbZ0g4XXXlu7 cOtcNoXiD4bJuOP3dUuNpG1BDdbZWXhGIIP3uKPkvfZyjEpjUASaGqiyiFvi9Bl0NBqu4LNQy pDaMIWced3aibiO4kBPByxCeuZ2YEdrfEKEWlkHbqHIksWcrv+gC7x5pvYom9LA6cqx+JVXWW XBKztaT/KPAFlZb1bGs+Xhxa1uTwZKcvN78LGpFmEXUJoNSKJVn9dFDNvhPIpZNnWRLW1ZbH/ bMQvO/ZeN5wQTuJtLa4LSYr6bCp+uZZOX6a0zC9qp1IWHJ+AwOqPwLxN4g7GhD2R6dr5byvUw dxcNHARK2r7XmhphDZ5vLkqR6YTnUCXUsElG8GbsKiCOjiw90L9wYzyM1PaptmnXAgaINr6W3 7IcJFUT82Y/Mi/7zlGPM/kczpyvkE6nI8jLhZ74/A0Mar81tvyYHzLvRBDIJwCOLP2WxURYAv 9x65B07Dl3c9UUZoDbGISP2F8V8Z10CPjE0fKjMj94Hh2HPGyrOYY9+m8SbC0RQBwgailwlrr QBq5lGjQP+8xIPRm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:29:10 -0000 On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:28:58AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, August 6, 2015 8:20 pm, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:00:12PM -0400, Quartz wrote: > >> >can you get a > >> >dmesg that will advise of the processor attributes? You're looking for > >> >"LM," (long mode). If that is there, it is a 64-bit processor. > >> > >> Does that work on linux? I can't get a dmesg off bsd until I figure out > >> how > >> to boot it. Also, where exactly am I looking? On a different machine > >> running > >> FreeBSD the only thing in dmesg I see that looks right is "AMD > >> Features=0x20100800". Is that the right line? > >> > > Seems everyone has a different concept of what should be in a dmesg. > > Linux may or may not have this info - my Slackware does not seem to, but > > it does have enough processor information () to > > search the web for that particular processor's attributes. > > > > If you have Linux running, will also work. > > cat /proc/cpuinfo > > comes to my mind for Linux. Never heard about . Is it one of > commands you can use on Linux box? What one need to install to have this > command? > > Valeri > I think it is part of the util-linux package. Here is a standard output: dutch@slack ~ $ lscpu Architecture: x86_64 CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit Byte Order: Little Endian CPU(s): 2 On-line CPU(s) list: 0,1 Thread(s) per core: 1 Core(s) per socket: 2 Socket(s): 1 Vendor ID: GenuineIntel CPU family: 6 Model: 26 Stepping: 5 CPU MHz: 2400.178 BogoMIPS: 4800.35 Virtualization: VT-x L1d cache: 32K L1i cache: 32K L2 cache: 256K L3 cache: 4096K dutch@slack ~ $ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 16:37:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8527B9B4839 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C31490F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 16:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5B863F714 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C4DED5.3050409@sneakertech.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:37:41 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> <55C3F50C.1000803@sneakertech.com> <20150807012036.GB3683@slack> <20924.128.135.52.4.1438957738.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20924.128.135.52.4.1438957738.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:37:44 -0000 > cat /proc/cpuinfo That was the first thing I tried, except that /proc/cpuinfo after booting a 64bit linux doesn't list any 64bit extensions like I'd expect. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 17:40:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8309B53D6 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 053EE330 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02FBF3F72D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C4ED74.6050602@sneakertech.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:40:04 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 17:40:09 -0000 > Have you tried - for the sake of an answer - to boot from > an older FreeBSD system? I might have to. Burning mfsBSD 10.1 to a cd didn't help at all, it hangs in exactly the same place. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 17:46:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FE09B554A; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from cargobay.net (cargobay.net [198.178.123.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A721A7B; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cblmdm72-240-160-19.buckeyecom.net [72.240.160.19]) by cargobay.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77123FA4; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC) From: "Chad J. Milios" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [PATCH] Please review this rc.d/sshd tiny yet ripe low hanging fruit for me. Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:46:35 -0400 To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 17:46:45 -0000 it=E2=80=99s no cannon but i did find a foot-aimed .22 in rc.d/ssh i = think deserves some red paint right away. and while in the neighborhood = i=E2=80=99d like to share an improvement i=E2=80=99ve enjoyed for a = while. i apologize for the list-bombing, if i may have a moment of your = time: TLDR: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D159642&action=3Ddiff= Quick Background: there=E2=80=99s two unrelated issues going on here but i ran across them = in close physical, mental and temporal proximity so let=E2=80=99s just = knock them out together because the solutions are simple, small, and = don=E2=80=99t modify today's default behavior. My Concerns: ONE is adding functionality allowing an admin to tweak the key = generation sshd makes upon its first run using variables in rc.conf = instead of the current day requirement of essentially manually = generating those keys, hopefully the same way, putting them hopefully in = the right place. (not hard for most of us, i know.) TWO, then, is adding = some sort of red paint to a foot-aimed gun i came across when = considering the variable names in rc.d/sshd and lack of mention in = defaults/rc.conf or man 5 rc.conf. My Plea: please put this into head and 10/stable and please 10.2-RC as well. i = know it=E2=80=99s really late for that but seriously if anyone can find = anything wrong with this i=E2=80=99ll send them $10 now just for chiming = in or $20 now for improving/fixing it. hopefully you=E2=80=99ll agree = it=E2=80=99s pretty simple and solid as-is and you'll participate and = say so for the warm feeling. :) Full Story: i=E2=80=99ve been running the following tweak to my /etc/rc.d/sshd for = four years on dozens of machines and apparently applying it on most = installations i do, 10 seconds of my time per, has thus far been less = pain than writing this PR and email, LOL (most times i don=E2=80=99t = even copy it from anywhere besides my temporal lobe, it=E2=80=99s such a = tiny mod): --- /usr/src/etc/rc.d/sshd 2014-11-15 00:04:00.000000000 +0000 +++ /etc/rc.d/sshd 2015-07-14 23:24:11.426005726 +0000 @@ -56,8 +56,9 @@ if [ -f "${keyfile}" ] ; then info "$ALG host key exists." else + eval keygen_flags=3D\$sshd_${alg}_flags echo "Generating $ALG host key." - /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -q -t $alg -f "$keyfile" -N "" + /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -q -t $alg -f "$keyfile" = $keygen_flags -N "" /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -l -f "$keyfile.pub" fi } and then that lets me add this to rc.conf.local, for which i hope my = purpose is apparent and goes without saying: sshd_rsa_flags=3D"-b 4096" sshd_ecdsa_flags=3D"-b 521=E2=80=9D and thanks to already existing functionality i also use the following in = rc.conf.local in every single installation as well: sshd_rsa1_enable=3D"NO" sshd_dsa_enable=3D"NO" so that=E2=80=99s it! that=E2=80=99s my whole functionality improvement = i want included upstream, LOL. However, it rubs me as not adequate, not = ready for general consumption. There=E2=80=99s something wrong and i = couldn=E2=80=99t quite put my finger on it until lately. Been doing that patch for years and never thought much of it. Always was = aware i needed to precede sshd=E2=80=99s first-run with these settings = and didn=E2=80=99t give it a second thought after including it in our = in-house rollout scripts as well as many one-offs for family/friends. = Then, a tech friend/partner/client picked up on those lines disabling = rsa1 and dsa with a little bit of monkey-see-monkey-do but never said = anything to me about it before applying just those on his 9.3 servers = with the stock rc.d/sshd. So i happen to be poking around his hobby rig = the other day and i saw the two *_enable=3D"NO" lines in his = rc.conf.local BUT all five few-month-old keys nonetheless sitting there = in his /etc/sshd/ (!) and, of course, sshd was dutifully responding to = hails on the frequencies he intended to have banned. So he clearly was tripped up on some surprising disappointment of his = expectation that sshd_dsa_enable=3DNO might do as named, as i see = quickly skimming the top of rc.d/ssh might lead one to believe, so, i = propose changing it to sshd_dsa_keygen_enable, if that name even helps = at all, and, more importantly, explaining a bit in the defaults list and = rc.conf(5) that: to effectively change any of these [now] ten settings = one must then also go delete key files that may already exist. I don=E2=80= =99t even know if i=E2=80=99ve accomplished a sufficient explanation in = defaults/rc.conf and wonder if someone familiar with man pages might = improve upon my terse lines in defaults/rc.conf with detail into = rc.conf(5) for us, just documenting sshd_*_keygen_enable and = sshd_*_keygen_flags to make it very clear they are put into effect at a = particular moment in time and to effect a change one must manually = invoke conditions leading again to that particular circumstance (delete = the key so it can regenerate). I know that might seem obvious to most here but it=E2=80=99s not = currently intuitive to those learning. This guy=E2=80=99s a bright = protege and i had to feel bad after i thwacked him in the head with my = bo-staff for having his RSA1 and DSA zippers open because the more i = thought about it the more i realized that as it sits it=E2=80=99s sort = of counter-intuitive. Conclusion: so i=E2=80=99ve improved that years-old tiny patch with slightly better = variable names for the existing vars, plus my own added vars renamed to = follow form, as well as added hopefully meaningful if terse description = to defaults/rc.conf while mapping the old existing names in rc.d/sshd to = the better names along with issuing a warning about them if they=E2=80=99r= e set. any of those decisions/details are optional, i just want the = original functionality of my original tiny patch (aforementioned, = inlined) in head at least, if not my full patch (link, top of message) = into 10.2-RC asap. Thanks everyone so much for your efforts on FreeBSD and hopefully I = haven=E2=80=99t taken up too much of your time pontificating on the = color of the little shed for my poodle=E2=80=99s mini-tricycle and we = can quickly agree this is a good morsel of low hanging fruit to improve = the security, consistency and usability of FreeBSD at the same time and = fast-track it into 10.2, if i=E2=80=99m not being too arrogant and bold = in proposing so. -Chad J. Milios= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 18:02:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBA79B5A51 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEC1E78D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 501513F73A; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C4F2B9.3020706@sneakertech.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 14:02:33 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dutch Ingraham CC: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150806220451.GA3683@slack> <55C3F50C.1000803@sneakertech.com> <20150807012036.GB3683@slack> In-Reply-To: <20150807012036.GB3683@slack> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 18:02:36 -0000 > If you have Linux running, will also work. I forgot about that. > http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43539/what-do-the-flags-in-proc\ > -cpuinfo-mean Ah, thank you so much for that link! It turns out I mixed up a few flags and was looking for the wrong things, that clears up a lot of the confusion. It is indeed a 64bit Pentium 4 with SSE3. Still no idea why the mfsBSDs won't boot, but I'll fool that later when I have some downtime. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 18:20:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18469B5E95 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A998B0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4102A3F725 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C4F6E6.4010902@sneakertech.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 14:20:22 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: non-default psf font (was: Re: Highest version with VGA fonts) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 18:20:24 -0000 This question about VGA fonts reminded me that I've been searching off and on for a few years to find a good .psf font that's a different typeface from the default. Of all I've looked at, 95% of them only have additional glyphs for other languages (rather than different-looking glyphs), and the few that are actually different don't have the standard lines and border glyphs making them useless to me. So far I've only found one that is both different and has the borders....... but it's port of comic sans :/ Anyone know of anything off the top of their head, or know of a (working) program that can create a psf from a truetype or something? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 18:45:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8A09B641A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2001:7c0:407:1001:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE744189 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1ZNmdd-0003vh-Ff; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 20:45:05 +0200 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t77Ib6E4071039 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:37:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t77Ib1gO069298 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:37:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <8BCBAC22-6B6F-4385-8D0F-ACE59D996FD9@elde.net> X-Trace: lorvorc.mips.inka.de 1438972621 54138 ::1 (7 Aug 2015 18:37:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mips.inka.de User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 18:45:09 -0000 On 2015-08-06, Terje Elde wrote: > If you look up the id from cpuid on ark.intel.com, you should get > a definitive answer. If you look up the Atom E6xx CPUs (used e.g. in the Soekris net6501), that site claims that they are 32 bits only. In reality, these CPUs do support 64-bit mode, as numerous owners can testify to. As other people have said, the presence of long mode in the CPU ID flags tells the true story. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 19:17:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6F59B6919 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC32AF61 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0E9D3F73D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 15:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55C5042C.3040101@sneakertech.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:17:00 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <8BCBAC22-6B6F-4385-8D0F-ACE59D996FD9@elde.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:17:03 -0000 >> If you look up the id from cpuid on ark.intel.com, you should get >> a definitive answer. > > If you look up the Atom E6xx CPUs (used e.g. in the Soekris net6501), > that site claims that they are 32 bits only. In reality, these > CPUs do support 64-bit mode, as numerous owners can testify to. > > As other people have said, the presence of long mode in the CPU ID > flags tells the true story. While we're at it, intel's util says this is a P4 541 and that it's family 15 model 4 (a claim shared by every OS I've run on it) whereas wikipedia claims the 541 is family 15 model *3*. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 19:21:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65EB9B6AF7 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BEB111C5 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t77JKxeM057747 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:20:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t77JKxJf057744; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:20:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:20:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: kpneal@pobox.com cc: Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: <20150807164602.GA2406@neutralgood.org> Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806140729.GA40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150807164602.GA2406@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:20:59 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:21:22 -0000 On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:07:29PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:43:35AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: >>> My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of >>> months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. >>> >>> Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only >>> detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 >>> >>> After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which >>> involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. >>> This didn't work. >>> >>> I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no >>> result. > >> 3) Activated this ruleset in /etc/rc.conf: >> >> devfs_system_ruleset="custom_rules" >> >> 4) reboot to activate the new ruleset and rules. > > I suspect that these two steps are being missed by many. devfs can be restarted with 'service devfs restart'. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 20:08:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282D59B62D3 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0940DE3 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id E1776CB8CB1; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 15:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.4 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 15:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <62161.128.135.52.4.1438978120.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <55C5042C.3040101@sneakertech.com> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <8BCBAC22-6B6F-4385-8D0F-ACE59D996FD9@elde.net> <55C5042C.3040101@sneakertech.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 15:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Quartz" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 20:08:42 -0000 On Fri, August 7, 2015 2:17 pm, Quartz wrote: > >>> If you look up the id from cpuid on ark.intel.com, you should get >>> a definitive answer. >> >> If you look up the Atom E6xx CPUs (used e.g. in the Soekris net6501), >> that site claims that they are 32 bits only. In reality, these >> CPUs do support 64-bit mode, as numerous owners can testify to. >> >> As other people have said, the presence of long mode in the CPU ID >> flags tells the true story. > > While we're at it, intel's util says this is a P4 541 and that it's > family 15 model 4 (a claim shared by every OS I've run on it) whereas > wikipedia claims the 541 is family 15 model *3*. > Intel is the manufacturer of that chip. Wikipedia's information is maintained by random bunch of individuals (with respect to the job they are doing...). The choice of primary source of information seems to be obvious. I would verify on intel website what model number 541 resembles to though (yes, I know, getting information wise their website is ugly compared to wikipedia...) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 20:37:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9CE9B68D5 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD3CFC3 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 1wcD1r00J07iGuj01wcE9o; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 22:36:17 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6CC271244B; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 22:36:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 22:36:13 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Warren Block Cc: kpneal@pobox.com, Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150807203613.GA64806@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , kpneal@pobox.com, Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806140729.GA40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150807164602.GA2406@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 20:37:31 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:20:59PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:07:29PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:43:35AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > >>> My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of > >>> months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. > >>> > >>> Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only > >>> detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 > >>> > >>> After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which > >>> involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. > >>> This didn't work. > >>> > >>> I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no > >>> result. > > > >> 3) Activated this ruleset in /etc/rc.conf: > >> > >> devfs_system_ruleset=3D"custom_rules" > >> > >> 4) reboot to activate the new ruleset and rules. > > > > I suspect that these two steps are being missed by many. >=20 > devfs can be restarted with 'service devfs restart'. When I was writing my answer, I ran `service -e` to see if devfs was listed= as a service. And it *doesn't* show up on my machine (10-STABLE amd64): # service -e /etc/rc.d/hostid /etc/rc.d/hostid_save /etc/rc.d/cleanvar /etc/rc.d/ip6addrctl /etc/rc.d/devd /etc/rc.d/ipfw /etc/rc.d/newsyslog /etc/rc.d/syslogd /etc/rc.d/dmesg /etc/rc.d/virecover /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dnsmasq /etc/rc.d/motd /etc/rc.d/powerd /usr/local/etc/rc.d/openntpd /usr/local/etc/rc.d/smartd /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix /usr/local/etc/rc.d/nginx /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd /etc/rc.d/cron /etc/rc.d/mixer /etc/rc.d/gptboot /etc/rc.d/bgfsck Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVxRa1AAoJEED21dyjijPgPL0QAKHd+5dhflmKwpPZB3pe10r/ ZJmd0/ER7Fijo0GQp/2QrHocl1rCS4EMP1Soh7b3KQYM+8BOAp1uJjUQKmQEMltG mpWR/f4ImM2O3SBVXRH7IIy1SAjBF0zfUn6AHz/bg7FS0h+bsj+V9QVzRA09Ud7q I/BHqA5WYtIoBaT04OTROgmYnDQsl27afxkHU62iiUEYu2n6/i/zNmhi7uAuhZ2l M6LnbJ3syTQ7hBxHnw5HXCjbd9Sl2tSL1GSUlMTfMz8xrQsX229Pnjz37PTvmqHz GxlRn9iJ7rHzko+J9sznC5yKrP9rRYY76mZHR9f0eTKDwQ3naSI1ZG1QmpG2E9+d JwXB23RuyMT54N3991ixcOMhKsrXdos6mG/oQ9UavQvTnZ1SJ+SmuTirBESVVzcQ 0zbk5Q/aLttIygpKmNm0Qx+S3N+Yr6G/cb/n6WETu+YP0f8SPLiBhndvMioMk+9i 14qeKodJk4GLyNBEmpNH0WqvZga4/TDZrpYGD3ViuZm6TJYk72063ZVn5aAtp2Jl AXE5oaypjkL3Tkpe+Xvu9nrf4cRBMctr9EnVf2XZR7ApfWXuYmPqUkblQ3A4zP6u r91DD5xp2bQWk6ic+adz6bjFc81wVC8f93ZNY3dVuLvCTGnEKPB7l1TepZpWKkGU Jzg+79+TYqMVxkAsgO1+ =dmRV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 23:19:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9D39B61E1 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 23:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C502CCC0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 23:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t77NJSNL015802 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t77NJSoZ015799; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Roland Smith cc: kpneal@pobox.com, Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: <20150807203613.GA64806@slackbox.erewhon.home> Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806140729.GA40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150807164602.GA2406@neutralgood.org> <20150807203613.GA64806@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 07 Aug 2015 17:19:28 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 23:19:47 -0000 On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:20:59PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:07:29PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >>>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:43:35AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: >>>>> My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of >>>>> months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. >>>>> >>>>> Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only >>>>> detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 >>>>> >>>>> After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, which >>>>> involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. >>>>> This didn't work. >>>>> >>>>> I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no >>>>> result. >>> >>>> 3) Activated this ruleset in /etc/rc.conf: >>>> >>>> devfs_system_ruleset="custom_rules" >>>> >>>> 4) reboot to activate the new ruleset and rules. >>> >>> I suspect that these two steps are being missed by many. >> >> devfs can be restarted with 'service devfs restart'. > > When I was writing my answer, I ran `service -e` to see if devfs was listed as a > service. And it *doesn't* show up on my machine (10-STABLE amd64): It does show in 'service -l', doesn't it? That's what my csh autocomplete uses: complete service 'c/-/(e l r v)/' \ 'p/1/`service -l`/' \ 'n/*/(start stop reload restart status rcvar onestart onestop)/' From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 01:30:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5DD9B5C0E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 01:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdefra1@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214FF1A57 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 01:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdefra1@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 205BD9B5C0B; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 01:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF2A9B5C0A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 01:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdefra1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A12171A55 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 01:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdefra1@gmail.com) Received: by lagz9 with SMTP id z9so30662229lag.3 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 18:30:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JqO6GVaMewJFAW9fZSBu4DPyJ+tGYv9/cEn4CEnrSU0=; b=qq2NtYeFH7hW7koN/t4rVxKXyj1mW+a3zoYYJUbfrysc7fD11NSeZdMO4F1d/0qQUL skkgDT4YVY+MHqUB/21zVgi02hYWQREfY9j4Ye7VNS5BuuUaE2YVfklwSeB07ootCo55 VWueLRc37MzGsUy+iuGLU2BMF3P1jLVdWou2Nb5kGNmw4C0Kjg0RRETLMEgZV/6k4pmv On+IF8fufbIPV3pA6QqtDjctU9rvgKJMLNT53RbOakWIBija3dwVbBeZVpSoRkNJbMQd AkJnMKUMEiH2zJ13TKfMateQNieuExY6nQdWGoxd3h7esyRx34zbNS4aJLWId1njMa+S LriQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.10.97 with SMTP id h1mr10837655lab.45.1438997409711; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 18:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.245.230 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:30:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: 9.3 boot error From: Matthew DeFrancesco To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 01:30:12 -0000 Hey guys, This is my first attempt at diving into the world of FreeBSD. I completed the 9.3 installation and after I rebooted (and taking out the bootable media) I get an error while booting: Non-system disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready I also tried installing 10.1 on a DVD, but continued to receive a CAM timeout error - which did not allow me to even proceed to the installation. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 03:06:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76589B6F2C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 03:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B07DB04 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 03:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=MGbjk6atrnneobtD5Oklxke3RFQQfXtCo3Jr1xY8+10=; b=howeBZk++RGKFt4W1OwXmRYkkz8dxTNZO57IvLw6op7d082ft4euGtkxy9WcJQrLgui3NUSB0eS3TNOX+F1/uNkQ0rs5rvq8HqhXxvp8Ta6hDxjWWzH0EvRlLm4vXQpX+ecm5Y+ZDASUFTfzsi2UNtKY3x52vHAWpDF4eUvOpsY=; Received: from [114.124.4.172] (port=27090 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNuSg-000Kl9-FV; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 21:06:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:06:07 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-ID: <20150808110607.3f290eaa@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 03:06:25 -0000 Hi, this e-mail reminded me of an old machine of mine. It only worked up to FreeBSD 7.x. FreeBSD 8.0 also did not boot as some hardware support was dropped those days. You might be affected by something like this too. The only difference seems that my machine booted but was unusable. Just try to get an old image matching the age of your machine. You can then move slowly into the 'future'. Erich PS My machine was a Pentium class machine, I think not even Pentium II or III. On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:37:52 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:40:04 -0400, Quartz wrote: > > ... except it doesn't work. I tried both 10.0 i386 and 10.1 amd64 > > and both of them hang. 10.1 amd64 gets to the beastie menu, but > > regardless if I select multiboot or single user it gets as far as > > the white-on-blue "Booting..." and then just stops. 10.0 i386 seems > > to die somewhere in stage two before the menu even appears. > > Have you tried - for the sake of an answer - to boot from > an older FreeBSD system? It's quite terrible that I would > make such a suggestion, but P4 is a rather old platform, > so why do you expect it to run a current FreeBSD? Normal > answer: Because old platforms still run current FreeBSD. > But in this case... > > I've been using a P4 machine myself for many years, it has > been running FreeBSD 5 and 7 (i386 versions only) happily. > > So what I would suggest: Download FreeSBIE 1.1. This is > a live file system CD (yes, not a DVD) that can be booted > and doesn't require to be installed. Run "dmesg" and see > what CPU features are listed (right at the top). You can > also run "sysctl -a | grep cpu" to get more information. > > When you have verified what P4 model it is, you can take > the next steps. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 04:05:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF2A9B5C4C; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 04:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from cargobay.net (cargobay.net [198.178.123.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A951FE6; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 04:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cblmdm72-240-160-19.buckeyecom.net [72.240.160.19]) by cargobay.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69415FE5; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 04:04:43 +0000 (UTC) From: "Chad J. Milios" Message-Id: <218890C8-9306-4CAF-9AEF-35664275B340@ccsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: [PATCH] Please review this rc.d/sshd tiny yet ripe low hanging fruit for me. Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 00:05:37 -0400 References: To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:05:42 -0000 On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Chad J. Milios wrote: > ...i apologize for the list-bombing, if i may have a moment of your = time: > TLDR: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D159642&action=3Ddi= ff > =E2=80=A6.. > My Concerns: > ONE is adding functionality allowing an admin to tweak the key = generation sshd makes upon its first run using variables in rc.conf = instead of the current day requirement of essentially manually = generating those keys, hopefully the same way, putting them hopefully in = the right place. (not hard for most of us, i know.) TWO, then, is adding = some sort of red paint to a foot-aimed gun i came across when = considering the variable names in rc.d/sshd and lack of mention in = defaults/rc.conf or man 5 rc.conf. > =E2=80=A6.. FYI, I have ported the identical functionality now to the = security/openssl-portable and security/openssl-portable-devel ports so = no one has to miss out. Please would you try one out and now configure = your (-b)etter keys in a consistent way in new deployments from now on = or upgrade yours if you are using defaults and delete existing = /etc/ssh/ssh_host_foo_key* files manually if you intend to update them. Knocking out little fixes like this will keep making things like sysrc = more useful and mergemaster even more worthless, bless its tired heart. = Help assure this works as intended in many cases with as many ssh = options as possible. THANKS PATCHES: either... base system: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D159642&action=3Ddiff= = ports/security/openssl-portable https://bz-attachments.freebsd.org/attachment.cgi?id=3D159654 = ports/security/openssl-portable-devel https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D159655&action=3Ddiff= = Thank you all. PS here are a couple configs I=E2=80=99d like to hear = everyones thoughts on. Let=E2=80=99s mix up the monoculture more: openssh_rsa1_keygen_enable=3D"NO" openssh_dsa_keygen_enable=3D"NO" openssh_rsa_keygen_flags=3D"-b 4096" openssh_ecdsa_keygen_flags=3D"-b 521" openssh_ed25519_keygen_enable=3D"YES" #default sshd_rsa1_keygen_enable=3D"NO" sshd_dsa_keygen_enable=3D"NO" sshd_rsa_keygen_flags=3D"-b 16384" sshd_ecdsa_keygen_enable=3D"NO" sshd_ed25519_keygen_enable=3D"NO" openssh_rsa1_keygen_enable=3D"NO" openssh_dsa_keygen_enable=3D"NO" openssh_rsa_keygen_enable=3D"NO" openssh_ecdsa_keygen_enable=3D"NO" openssh_ed25519_keygen_enable=3D"YES" #default Can we have a conversation about how best to configure things to require = && (and) keys instead of || (or) keys for certain/all users? Using = sshd_config and/or PAM? openssh_rsa1_keygen_flags=3D"-b 16384=E2=80=9D openssh_dsa_keygen_enable=3D"YES" #default openssh_rsa_keygen_flags=3D"-b 16384" openssh_ecdsa_keygen_flags=3D"-b 521" openssh_ed25519_keygen_enable=3D"YES" #default From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 06:29:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0465A9AC6A8; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from cargobay.net (cargobay.net [198.178.123.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB856A0; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cblmdm72-240-160-19.buckeyecom.net [72.240.160.19]) by cargobay.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ABD5FEF; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:28:41 +0000 (UTC) From: "Chad J. Milios" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Help OpenStack and bsd-cloudinit work right before 10.2-RELEASE images start baking in all those ovens in the wild. Message-Id: <6374BF77-7EED-40A7-A4DB-8E3C193A957B@ccsys.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 02:29:37 -0400 To: freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 06:29:41 -0000 TLDR: Pipe name servers to resolvconf rather than write them to resolv.conf bsd-cloudinit needs to work properly with local resolvers e.g. unbound = and solve other side effects https://github.com/pellaeon/bsd-cloudinit/pull/18 Call for expertise: I need help, I fear this patch is either horribly under-thought because = I don=E2=80=99t know the particular landscape of OpenStack or it=E2=80=99s= perfect and a testament to the beauty of BSD unix. Are there corner = cases I=E2=80=99m not considering? Is the contextual code used in a = chroot somewhere that I=E2=80=99m not using, in an =E2=80=98offline' = mode where we can=E2=80=99t run a pipe to this program instead of simple = write to a file? Why now?: We need this very important fix to make it out soon, as people will be = rolling their new 10.2 images very very soon to be committed to their = deployment image repos in all those pesky little one off dev ops systems = in the wild that seem to set in stone or at least something like north = canada winter pine sap. This bug is particularly hard to update between = major cycles and it makes a sticky messy smudge for adoption on = otherwise smooth solid offerings with FreeBSD cloud platform so = hopefully we can get some discussion and review and consensus on this = pull request here and get the port updated too and everything if = necessary so when people start getting their 10.2-RELEASEs and pulling = the pkgs and ports tree, whatever branch that may be back ported or = whatever, they need to get this important low level thing right about = hooking into their cloud infrastructure from the jump. This fix has worked great for me but my testing and use case is limited = and very center of road. Help this guy out he=E2=80=99s already testing = and needs to hear what you think too. Package builders, image rollers = and big cloud platform engineers or virtual appliance builders all take = note of this bug and make sure your BSDs runs right in the cloud when = you know you want to use a local validating resolver and think you are = doing so securely with local trust and performance Thank you so much everyone for your time and consideration. Chad J. Milios= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 06:35:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CDA9AC8D9; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from cargobay.net (cargobay.net [198.178.123.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3099A1B; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cblmdm72-240-160-19.buckeyecom.net [72.240.160.19]) by cargobay.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5E3BFF3; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: Help OpenStack and bsd-cloudinit work right on 8.x - 10.2+ From: "Chad J. Milios" In-Reply-To: <6374BF77-7EED-40A7-A4DB-8E3C193A957B@ccsys.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 02:35:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6374BF77-7EED-40A7-A4DB-8E3C193A957B@ccsys.com> To: freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 06:35:49 -0000 > On Aug 8, 2015, at 2:29 AM, Chad J. Milios wrote: >=20 > TLDR: > Pipe name servers to resolvconf rather than write them to resolv.conf > bsd-cloudinit needs to work properly with local resolvers e.g. unbound = and solve other side effects > https://github.com/pellaeon/bsd-cloudinit/pull/18 >=20 > Call for expertise: > I need help, I fear this patch is either horribly under-thought = because I don=E2=80=99t know the particular landscape of OpenStack or = it=E2=80=99s perfect and a testament to the beauty of BSD unix. Are = there corner cases I=E2=80=99m not considering? Is the contextual code = used in a chroot somewhere that I=E2=80=99m not using, in an =E2=80=98offl= ine' mode where we can=E2=80=99t run a pipe to this program instead of = simple write to a file? >=20 > Why now?: > We need this very important fix to make it out soon, as people will be = rolling their new 10.2 images very very soon to be committed to their = deployment image repos in all those pesky little one off dev ops systems = in the wild that seem to set in stone or at least something like north = canada winter pine sap. This bug is particularly hard to update between = major cycles and it makes a sticky messy smudge for adoption on = otherwise smooth solid offerings with FreeBSD cloud platform so = hopefully we can get some discussion and review and consensus on this = pull request here and get the port updated too and everything if = necessary so when people start getting their 10.2-RELEASEs and pulling = the pkgs and ports tree, whatever branch that may be back ported or = whatever, they need to get this important low level thing right about = hooking into their cloud infrastructure from the jump. >=20 > This fix has worked great for me but my testing and use case is = limited and very center of road. Help this guy out he=E2=80=99s already = testing and needs to hear what you think too. Package builders, image = rollers and big cloud platform engineers or virtual appliance builders = all take note of this bug and make sure your BSDs runs right in the = cloud when you know you want to use a local validating resolver and = think you are doing so securely with local trust and performance >=20 > Thank you so much everyone for your time and consideration. >=20 > Chad J. Milios >=20 Sorry to reply again so fast but just remembered very important, chime = in if you=E2=80=99re still running 8.4 and you like to do it on = OpenStack because this patch needs to become more complicated to keep = working on 8.4 and that=E2=80=99s currently beyond me. So if you don=E2=80= =99t want to be forced onto 9.x just yet on OpenStack well then speak = now and we=E2=80=99ll make sure it keeps working or else forever hold = your peace.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 09:22:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD73E9B3D2E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F64CD30 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from [10.0.0.6] (netlaser-2 [10.0.0.6]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t789MG44001557; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:22:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55C5CA48.4040209@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:22:16 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quartz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: non-default psf font References: <55C4F6E6.4010902@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55C4F6E6.4010902@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 09:22:30 -0000 On 2015-08-07 20:20, Quartz wrote: > This question about VGA fonts reminded me that I've been searching off > and on for a few years to find a good .psf font that's a different > typeface from the default. Of all I've looked at, 95% of them only have > additional glyphs for other languages (rather than different-looking > glyphs), and the few that are actually different don't have the standard > lines and border glyphs making them useless to me. So far I've only > found one that is both different and has the borders....... but it's > port of comic sans :/ > > Anyone know of anything off the top of their head, or know of a > (working) program that can create a psf from a truetype or something? You might find something here. https://www.google.se/search?sclient=psy-ab&btnG=S%C3%B6k&q=ttf%2Bpsf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 09:38:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F779B5079 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x229.google.com (mail-qk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA544144E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: by qkbm65 with SMTP id m65so44627248qkb.2 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 02:38:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6cHUKIkYoX0TOQdWCEbNx7KFSgAIt+obPr4TC6yCsFY=; b=tQk+0EsnI64N+PqtG1rw588yb36uTt8g91WioJWSRR5ZAyyMiFBFr96DaqsTxlWWv1 5p6bxJZmuH1rypKH3IuL5StByQbgwTQGfvMRpxVV7lYSP0SVVtUB+88/mJOv7p7VwlJl iFBf34xLBA5gsDTFo/QPwEiqx/rw8IgS0uSAuip1hOKqsraio4tu7Idu6hWtZ2iSYSJx 6YfpnV/MbocQLntRxDbtSuvMKtTQDrXEMA5fXqOppPIi3GwsHVoAKuEaokG/9T8gjc3c UnuqNDsjrImpg0qnzf1t93adNJzUiNrQXDM89JWPibjXO4Ym5/p9GCfoQUw0bu9kCy9Z Ol2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.54.65 with SMTP id d62mr21788902qka.59.1439026723676; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 02:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.145.168 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 02:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:38:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Anybody tried FreeBSD Docker + Discourse yet? From: Murk Fletcher To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 09:38:45 -0000 Hi! Has anybody tried Discourse on the new FreeBSD Docker yet? If so: - Have you compiled an instructions guide for others to follow? - Assuming you're already running other Rails apps (with Unicorn, Nginx, PostgreSQL etc.) natively on your server, how does the new Discourse + FreeBSD Docker affect your server's performance considering you're now doubling up on almost all your services? Thanks! Murk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 09:39:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844429B50DB for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4EF21508 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 29eQ1r00207iGuj019eRcN; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:38:25 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E5AE0123FA; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:38:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:38:23 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: Warren Block , Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150808093823.GA3628@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: kpneal@pobox.com, Warren Block , Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806140729.GA40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150807164602.GA2406@neutralgood.org> <20150807203613.GA64806@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150807223841.GA14013@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150807223841.GA14013@neutralgood.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 09:39:40 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 06:38:41PM -0400, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:36:13PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:20:59PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > devfs can be restarted with 'service devfs restart'. > >=20 > > When I was writing my answer, I ran `service -e` to see if devfs was li= sted as a > > service. And it *doesn't* show up on my machine (10-STABLE amd64): > >=20 > > # service -e >=20 > I've noticed that before as well. >=20 > Without checking the source, I suspect that service is looking for "rcvar= =3D" > and not listing services as being enabled if it can't find an enabling > variable for a script. Looking at the manpage you're probably right. Since the system needs devices to work, it would not make sense to have a possibility to disable devfs, hence no =E2=80=9Cdevfs_enable=E2=80=9D in rc= =2Econf, so no rcvar and no listing in =E2=80=9Cservice -e=E2=80=9D. Having thought about it, I guess we should read the =E2=80=9C-e=E2=80=9D op= tion for services as =E2=80=9CList *optional* services that are enabled=E2=80=9D, with devfs = being mandatory. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVxc4JAAoJEED21dyjijPgevwP/jKWrtspsrdZkZSK4lVjiagC 1kTQNLVMqRwo98FyUsFbL/h2yFe3nFT3V5FY+elWqHLWJjP0XXOqR7axfTiN8q9I z/kcMmWFlyTcjL1lOsvkOQbrKR2nkIUE0gohELpDAJClQZrr5e5c1OBpM3kwkcX9 M4DBNrFN77IPpQU0zrZsGR5SId7JFebwwFe65AoorfIRYhB8VeIdK7IJ7dEstQzP EaWXNsuqOnkXQL5O36qAR/jWfk/PeiWJSRr3ELuwf3WQf1MgEZMKicSgZRq/Tjsf NYtny09kVrjRAT0oTGiSwBKgdaNAp1Ii5Sq18RhCXVX1kO2WK0mbktxxbUS2wjp+ w/YuDqVPhNHDheWM2rySOEDJ7mLahhjxMn2mLpqyb9O2bz8ACqXD9KwQbwi+jFca MTuB3ksIHoRYlOPe+nNwyBj4ladD6JU9BEsJKBBU6qKKcBMexo7fYnpj2jYjU6gs KT9NRQbbucOZYFibLgUfOEpX3XUeNUF9noC4pvlG3fE/xoNUkhlsDCCXP9yuP4u9 M276TwKCfbxjxBdiQ/TBdhfaU40fSwtCKP/saLsqIVbRP2oKOmPbG9QUU2VwgPSv J2v6WX5Wn+IKBFvyJinhkUlIH6o/2bOBTHEn6PJx8XGL9WuHoQQqPxKYw+984V7h mWD1M0ICDD6rcpzIaAlS =SET5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 09:44:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8049B52D2 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 525661A1E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 29kC1r00A07iGuj019kDuT; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:44:13 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2496212435; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:44:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:44:12 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Warren Block Cc: kpneal@pobox.com, Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150808094412.GB3628@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , kpneal@pobox.com, Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806140729.GA40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150807164602.GA2406@neutralgood.org> <20150807203613.GA64806@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 09:44:15 -0000 --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 05:19:28PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:20:59PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:07:29PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > >>>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:43:35AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > >>>>> My first posting to this list. I've been using 10.1 for a couple of > >>>>> months on my Thinkpad T60 without problems. > >>>>> > >>>>> Trying to get my Epson 1650 scanner to work, I found it was only > >>>>> detected as root. It's at /dev/usb:/dev/ugen0.2 > >>>>> > >>>>> After googling, I found instructions on Freebsd manual for 8.7, whi= ch > >>>>> involved creating a usb group and making/modifying /etc/devfs.rules. > >>>>> This didn't work. > >>>>> > >>>>> I then added myself to the wheel and operator groups but again no > >>>>> result. > >>> > >>>> 3) Activated this ruleset in /etc/rc.conf: > >>>> > >>>> devfs_system_ruleset=3D"custom_rules" > >>>> > >>>> 4) reboot to activate the new ruleset and rules. > >>> > >>> I suspect that these two steps are being missed by many. > >> > >> devfs can be restarted with 'service devfs restart'. > > > > When I was writing my answer, I ran `service -e` to see if devfs was li= sted as a > > service. And it *doesn't* show up on my machine (10-STABLE amd64): >=20 > It does show in 'service -l', doesn't it? Yes, it does. I think Kevin is right, and it's the lack of an rcvar in the devfs script that causes this behaviour. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVxc9sAAoJEED21dyjijPglGkP/RwrY0XejbsU/8v84YqCRf0k iViDB/CoMjkwDCudCQMv6nFQ++bYCxrBKdTe2GmmTa1SQEaImqPzzfgNaS35S8vy 38voqs1xn6zjeUPjx4L+BQNBpmrfThyQzDe2CDEOlyDlwkpt5RJMjOTf9h4RY16h 9YsKsop86DJQZ0TbEfKGsmrZQpz0oLRRl2UDWR+WZyADMhPg38K0juGJKQOtaFPn r3JXnqi3IGjtPry9g5xVv5XSrheR0HmwCpcFnbCUNyYs2/EAzXcBNCzY4AIY1ZGp rkqTuhiLmBoVuaFWokCePu+gF9gJcY7wWeT2OoK1D4waGiYueFMI7/IXKYdumCJ1 68SpbGSYrSiTm2t/UBmssmqS84+8Y46mNqgoS/VYugsoAewz1pPvNyP9kM7UtQk0 y0/ddccaJJMvY6YVNY3CKfXDIiVSVL5F4sj5QSAD22A5aBkPgad6DW52Jk0g7yi6 m9VbalQinc19x6XBa0xoskxh31j9xtNZfgFp0eUaEs0/wTCcXr7eda59v/PNYu0Q wZ9Ot3c//pSGh7VOfuEu7N7bCMcsIb2/x/s+Xohu1XHo1i7KhsEVok5hkdUv8gGP JyYJ6cFa6rZpuOg8BjKnaQv1BsU5zIiDeTiNVKVvDZZ1W7pSBq8Ax8n895Y4Rxzk EexsMb5oPHlJo10qkrvF =tvTZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 11:22:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E899B5E16 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC812ABD for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BBB239B5E15; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB44D9B5E14 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84BB4ABC for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 974E53CE19; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:21:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t78BLwud001921; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:21:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:21:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew DeFrancesco Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.3 boot error Message-Id: <20150808132158.9ec126b5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:22:08 -0000 On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:30:09 -0400, Matthew DeFrancesco wrote: > Hey guys, > > This is my first attempt at diving into the world of FreeBSD. I completed > the 9.3 installation and after I rebooted (and taking out the bootable > media) I get an error while booting: > > Non-system disk or disk error > replace and strike any key when ready This indicates that the boot section of the disk hasn't been properly written. The boot loader is missing, so nothing happens when the BIOS transfers control to the first active partition. You can install the boot section without repeating the whole installation process - there's an option for this in the installer. > I also tried installing 10.1 on a DVD, but continued to receive a CAM > timeout error - which did not allow me to even proceed to the installation. This often happens when the optical drive is faulty, or the media is defective. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 11:25:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521B49B5F5A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AB0CE21 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00F963CDE9; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:25:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t78BPsUL001939; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:25:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:25:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-Id: <20150808132554.634b8177.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150808110607.3f290eaa@X220.alogt.com> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150808110607.3f290eaa@X220.alogt.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:25:57 -0000 On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:06:07 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > this e-mail reminded me of an old machine of mine. It only worked up to > FreeBSD 7.x. FreeBSD 8.0 also did not boot as some hardware support was > dropped those days. You might be affected by something like this too. This is quite possible. I remember a different machine where I wanted to perform some data recovery, and _had to_ boot it with FreeBSD 5, because 7 - 10 wouldn't detect the disks (and the disks were _not_ detected in other machines as well). > PS > > My machine was a Pentium class machine, I think not even Pentium II or > III. I still have a fully functional Pentium II with 300 MHz here and less than 512 MB RAM. It runs FreeBSD 5 (and a wide set of applications) with the speed that's typically experienced on today's state-of-the-art computers with plentycore CPUs and Gigs of RAM and endless hard disks - but of course with today's bloatware (or even crapware) installed. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 15:20:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E561B9B6D7F for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phillip.a.minimi@lmco.com) Received: from mailfo01.lmco.com (mailfo01.lmco.com [192.31.106.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailfo01.lmco.com", Issuer "Symantec Class 3 Secure Server CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0F21116B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phillip.a.minimi@lmco.com) Received: from HVXHTPN9.us.lmco.com (hvxhtpn9.ems.lmco.com [158.186.149.27]) by mailfo01.lmco.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t78FK9Rc021673 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:20:09 +0100 Received: from HVXDSP41.us.lmco.com ([fe80::f842:f7dd:ab78:45f6]) by HVXHTPN9.us.lmco.com ([fe80::cc0f:96a:cb16:8684%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:20:09 -0400 From: "Minimi, Phillip A" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: coretemp driver Thread-Topic: coretemp driver Thread-Index: AdDR7WVzdkHSiaG6TQKTPe78S1XBPw== Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:20:09 +0000 Message-ID: <830397DA32E1A0479077F4D3642B448B62D86EC3@HVXDSP41.us.lmco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [158.186.156.91] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-LM-Outbound: External 158.186.149.27 cntry=us g=cd7f0d7ab3e8950051413646d21d3ddc q=t78FK9Rc021673 m=1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151, 1.0.33, 0.0.0000 definitions=2015-08-08_03:2015-08-07,2015-08-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:20:14 -0000 We are running RedHawk5.4.11, 2.6.31.13, based on RHEL5.4 x86, on an IBM HS= 23. Executing sensors showed no output at all, no sensors detected. I looke= d at coretemp.c and saw that the HS23 CPU, 32nm, CPUID=3D 0X2D, was not sup= ported and in fact coretemp was reporting that in /var/log/messages. I adde= d 0x2D to coretemp.c and rebuilt the kernel to see if we could even read a = sensor. That worked and now there is a temperature reported for each CPU. H= owever, with the "workaround" I don't have any confidence in the accuracy o= f the output of course. Is there a patch I can apply to the kernel source t= hat will update coretemp.c and related source code? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 18:15:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7979B5B1F for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 18:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20EB65F5 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 18:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t78IFeDR059089 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Aug 2015 12:15:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t78IFcNX059030; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 12:15:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 12:15:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Roland Smith cc: kpneal@pobox.com, Anthony Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: <20150808094412.GB3628@slackbox.erewhon.home> Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <20150806140729.GA40869@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150807164602.GA2406@neutralgood.org> <20150807203613.GA64806@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150808094412.GB3628@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:15:40 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 18:15:58 -0000 On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 05:19:28PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >>> When I was writing my answer, I ran `service -e` to see if devfs was listed as a >>> service. And it *doesn't* show up on my machine (10-STABLE amd64): >> >> It does show in 'service -l', doesn't it? > > Yes, it does. I think Kevin is right, and it's the lack of an rcvar in the > devfs script that causes this behaviour. Or look at it as devfs not being a service that can be disabled. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 20:47:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA949B660D for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 20:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82A231A54 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 20:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from slack ([24.116.197.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIMyZ-1ZOzpM1TZf-004E3F for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 22:46:51 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:46:39 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Firefox Vulnerabilities Message-ID: <20150808204639.GA8567@slack> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:feMg73ripS0r1l/kynxY1mzpx2/awfXHU9lufcFL4KEdHqnJxvV dCQkK96QyOvPx4GjA3MyhebYa93qQkdNi+y7AICxq34QMCdpT0GRCS+1QI9h3mfIH7VmrHS BcKIyrh1di2vKI1V3NH6DcRWqfLJN4DoLeABNpypvhYj9mrOftTnoSD8ilNuyUx2bqDQ8lK vmh0HjA4yThR6fzvrlkcg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:CmpCK6eeLCg=:bGsWCXF70S8XH3CY4qjLV7 E+cDx1cN1k3AtPLxGS0LF1DM1sNJHwlSSETN1KAv1Jbxbaqi48cEDvYk4D7j0fYia6rjk9sjn PRr8V+JwEqivKoincAtxaA/W8TEuQvK3BJAvozEVc+OflDeF1VDtCFtjViV3fWtsiLIYuy3EZ gqz/BuP295NQ3StdM7aN0XI1cB3Uu48ro3Lb7HVM0DYfG4OjlUzeizACVJ2q8iEATxcL2y4VR CJSnWC0KQcWsAosEqHS6ekgfvHohoj2M6t8i75z12vpve/a44fP80jznDwJfceYH0XLf2hlnw R3iad9Q2wucojVfCFrlcfr8gyNAAJDq9hdssUWng9d708OjMjTg10+UsddRiIt9TcQ6GaeR+H /je9vLRBU39jIwAFnDSa2ui3Drl395wWQLMk+qnXjMttrDd6e2G5isJ9ze2WqlOeDpj6sRrW0 GhSj0rLlsCiUjxpxWq2UM2yHCsYzhCFJXwn0EFWfMc3+nATfIKaYsLzm9tDvnSN5Vwzg90d1Q INw54rH4m1QB29iTcn3gF5q4vz2bcvCYrqrtFa9z2e3AHgEBDB/FTtwaWUo7J1CGLKYMUNYSO lpzdPDogDmIEjCGgxvkH3VJuzI2xpN97JzOI2iWa4n7G9R9vk+gpc9OC9SjRIoMaiAstMcT3V JdSXm9nsxzeFbN+ymlRB7qAZLIfIralJPkHehddsi4zWdW4Bb8wBuylYMppAA9TOjlasWGFIl FCkJ7hj+LUGT5Uuz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 20:47:01 -0000 Hi all: I'm currently running amd64 version 10.1-RELEASE-p16. I update my ports tree through svn. Yesterday, I updated the tree and subsequently upgraded Firefox: $ pkg info firefox firefox-40.0,1 Name : firefox Version : 40.0,1 Installed on : Fri Aug 7 08:08:07 CDT 2015 [snip] As everyone knows, there was a vulnerability announced a few days ago related to the pdf viewer in Firefox.[1] This was fixed in the latest stable version, which is apparently 39.0.3.[2] Version 40.*, which started life prior to the date of the vulnerability, remains in beta.[3] I can't seem to find where this vulnerability [1] was fixed in the beta version in the ports tree.[4] I don't see any comments in /usr/ports/UPDATING nor in /usr/ports/CHANGES related to this issue. Can someone comment on the status of [1] in the current "stable" Freebsd version of Firefox, 40.0,1? Thanks. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2015-78/ [2] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/ [3] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/40.0beta/releasenotes/ [4] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?j_top=OR&f1=target_milestone&\ o3=equals&v3=Firefox%2040&o1=equals&resolution=FIXED&o2=anyexact&query_\ format=advanced&f3=target_milestone&f2=cf_status_firefox40&bug_status=\ RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&v1=mozilla40&v2=fixed%\ 2Cverified&limit=0 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 21:32:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2ED9B6F19 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 21:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478401614 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 21:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by ioii16 with SMTP id i16so140014531ioi.0 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:32:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YbTn68UEfrlPo9WwDy/id0OX0ECGpLGKNamsYOlzWwI=; b=rOvYrFObPkws4BdLocdccg/z+BBGaEGlCfNtOgJf0tTVL72ZDp2PI2zqH68sTOCn7w V+sR3tClgPnfKJGWx4svVJ4UPDwOTCazr/KvIfpMXvOCAMddyMYQNwuariEYd9m7sYmm wxhDcGf9UkWqfNmpF81mgMpLd9PxPmJ4FnLRv9InYBEVfpCF0KYdrF6Q8GWl7uVHzvGD detU6qsr3SkqXGiQtETTr/UiSnxn5MBKw4MGMZcp9njFYZHBmth8RUyg+KxTumNoR6Uk fl91nDopyHjg49/qtXhMX7MtmTkekHKFgqBWuvu+OIiE+xa3eHXt2hAUy7IXM+44ZXWQ DBGA== X-Received: by 10.107.8.216 with SMTP id h85mr7049954ioi.89.1439069575578; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f126sm9829485ioe.21.2015.08.08.14.32.54 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55C6758E.8080607@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:33:02 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox Vulnerabilities References: <20150808204639.GA8567@slack> In-Reply-To: <20150808204639.GA8567@slack> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 21:32:56 -0000 From the Fedora list, I see: update to Firefox 40 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=676030 On 08/08/2015 02:46 PM, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > Hi all: > > I'm currently running amd64 version 10.1-RELEASE-p16. I update my > ports tree through svn. Yesterday, I updated the tree and subsequently > upgraded Firefox: > > $ pkg info firefox > firefox-40.0,1 > Name : firefox > Version : 40.0,1 > Installed on : Fri Aug 7 08:08:07 CDT 2015 > [snip] > > As everyone knows, there was a vulnerability announced a few days ago > related to the pdf viewer in Firefox.[1] This was fixed in the latest > stable version, which is apparently 39.0.3.[2] Version 40.*, which > started life prior to the date of the vulnerability, remains in beta.[3] > > I can't seem to find where this vulnerability [1] was fixed in the beta > version in the ports tree.[4] I don't see any comments in > /usr/ports/UPDATING nor in /usr/ports/CHANGES related to this issue. > > Can someone comment on the status of [1] in the current "stable" > Freebsd version of Firefox, 40.0,1? Thanks. > > > [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2015-78/ > [2] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/ > [3] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/40.0beta/releasenotes/ > [4] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?j_top=OR&f1=target_milestone&\ > o3=equals&v3=Firefox%2040&o1=equals&resolution=FIXED&o2=anyexact&query_\ > format=advanced&f3=target_milestone&f2=cf_status_firefox40&bug_status=\ > RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&v1=mozilla40&v2=fixed%\ > 2Cverified&limit=0 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 21:34:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71B9B6F62 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 21:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5C2D16B0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 21:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t78LXd39044095 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:33:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t78LXd39044095 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t78LXd39044095; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: coretemp driver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <830397DA32E1A0479077F4D3642B448B62D86EC3@HVXDSP41.us.lmco.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <55C675AA.3040103@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:33:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <830397DA32E1A0479077F4D3642B448B62D86EC3@HVXDSP41.us.lmco.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="daN6G73Kg0dL1uDnX80wo4fl9b0pkRchE" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 21:34:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --daN6G73Kg0dL1uDnX80wo4fl9b0pkRchE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/08/2015 16:20, Minimi, Phillip A wrote: > We are running RedHawk5.4.11, 2.6.31.13, based on RHEL5.4 x86, on an IB= M HS23. This is *freebsd*-questions. You aren't going to get much joy asking questions about RHEL here. Sorry. Matthew --daN6G73Kg0dL1uDnX80wo4fl9b0pkRchE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVxnWyXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATKtYP/iE5/wBBFCihQh/6jnq6kwbA DtZOX8RL0ZK0JaoLNgBAl355DpZ0DqbwBT3BxKwkiQcWCNCatUt6poW72fC+iXXJ ktMmpeOPxo0O14Di1VdXtNJvjbo1W0Ub8/3Gs0JZJGGdfnyk+pYpaKRM3EeGuCtx N2qR6eBPbJsXU5DKvGsZZ4Xzci51Ep7Xhyvs+6O62NEV5Yngm7DcVesE7uGngK13 t8bck4K9rHUZGCt2jmTcegucS1ttbTl13i/TmoX+PDtEN+PHsrWYFWPdOvNKqyj+ tpmYSQ8HBrgZZIQi8PmU4dUf9Q2wT4+j5Fwgi9jigRlU2C/WfCgZxaQPcIFt0OoL 4fFDZ13+tIUTj6uyTb+6/q56WtpZ1NfZw39XuaxY6AYwcaz4+9Oh7g4LqzcT3YDI YduhRbN/Syp1Jn3aRkeeigN84GiYk0Hj81vIG38dIglz7Mfpei7alD7C+sL/Zam5 3JAoUifgS6ZZTfrxBCCzN421m2tKkA92yu1RiE9jmdw/sVtKTZ/Jvsk5Ska6UaPV tUcidyTAy9FDaG03cdlsk3zet2stoBueg0aLdKBcmZbtiZZVBj6FszO+Acpix/no JfPy3XrIuuEt39WQW1fy1WOXArqX4Px6eoYlsU/xwTKMXxmNWDLRQ3sk/g1hxR4t NaNoklPA6gFxdB5OPFwv =msTf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --daN6G73Kg0dL1uDnX80wo4fl9b0pkRchE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 22:35:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB98D9B69F8 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2001:7c0:407:1001:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72A2F1D9F for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1ZOChk-0003hq-VA; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 00:35:05 +0200 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t78MVf2k086575 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 00:31:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t78MVfnd086574 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 00:31:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: Firefox Vulnerabilities Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <20150808204639.GA8567@slack> X-Trace: lorvorc.mips.inka.de 1439073100 85752 ::1 (8 Aug 2015 22:31:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mips.inka.de User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 22:35:08 -0000 On 2015-08-08, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > As everyone knows, there was a vulnerability announced a few days ago > related to the pdf viewer in Firefox.[1] > > Can someone comment on the status of [1] in the current "stable" > Freebsd version of Firefox, 40.0,1? Thanks. The version of Firefox committed in r393690 (40.0-candidates/build4) is not vulnerable. Presumably this was the reason a pre-release version of Firefox 40 was committed in the first place. You can verify it yourself. Go and diff 39.0 and 39.0.3, then check that the relevant change is already in 40.0/build4. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 23:03:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31119B6E17 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 23:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C154CA2 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 23:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from slack ([24.116.197.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLNpK-1ZNf6E2SNG-000dMC; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 00:58:04 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 17:57:54 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox Vulnerabilities Message-ID: <20150808225754.GA975@slack> References: <20150808204639.GA8567@slack> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:UcDvxCtMK9PkGD/VRWt5YLroqHPmUFIoMVjP7sZbEOyNuHboxcX oEv1fgbpIW97vkuqr54bL1ZEVlyXUxVgYv1d4Zp/mEojwLMzZFvA3D1ZrMScKoCkETJHUoR IGfXA7qdXHepbLZAVtauQmK8b3DbXgRTlL9Ra/WuZvVGajwUJt8VMWmhDiQk1CFHTNK/LP1 mNH0MNvJvK3ffBh50JP9g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:oIYYuEjctBg=:+KWgv0YtEeIJrTNmAFDre+ EuWInRUOJrJXORZaWhi7A4JkQCwzLQUkH4b25qFsXPjZXt8iHLekCGHOsLM5a4Va4fwPu43Yn PJjJMqk4cj18krmZTBQH9CYN8JMeTEBk54XidDQTTfehsZT+oOUWTG7FnoiftNZl13Mf3dfvr lQgxDbTB3C9wwctZzL3GMISsCjNgxXx3iTeArl7N/HJL7748+AxuaFZ9+D/2TnFTevMiaZmli rdSFs3tsMIxyH1xQv811VuoZgLpaDec5Bv1x5B/psSaB9fwkuwpDSW+ECg1ugPHIIpQFAKSUD PH8W/HRcqEpQYEZGxpBZEWtsijekPsnFG5DYgLv0LJFGVY4Ko0HQkH6L4YqsLeguYuZEzpiC3 5a5dwGrNSocnpmQTKYOzb5ecgsot35ZohWNSvwY0fIaBLPJpWtXezXhk8L58m+c5ZTTKN0+Ue 99j41fANScVtDFWvMOrfP49JWZzTPMvK8zSH1F4JPbnoDBKozwRgG36P1QA9qU2RKwubc0dht 7hEVz/ysp2zsEU1C8rPzghCw+9vFUyx/CV8TL2NLAOSQ6aIA5Z3HrqW8D2RwyTHuIWClSnYVK 2FrU9wZmfI68JHfAyR6U3/qjZOUgU19kN+DjFjWS4QDwg7DKKZQ3EthbNoPifzawzMxTmTAqH 0u3WdTvh78+HZf+jHrdRMpZW1/uQ5z3ctmQGCvX1xfK+szqSEoGPHMLXNkbPd8QxNgtODGA3K 2SaH81MMi+F9GBLO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 23:03:27 -0000 On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 10:31:40PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2015-08-08, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > As everyone knows, there was a vulnerability announced a few days ago > > related to the pdf viewer in Firefox.[1] > > > > Can someone comment on the status of [1] in the current "stable" > > Freebsd version of Firefox, 40.0,1? Thanks. > > The version of Firefox committed in r393690 (40.0-candidates/build4) > is not vulnerable. > > Presumably this was the reason a pre-release version of Firefox 40 > was committed in the first place. > > You can verify it yourself. Go and diff 39.0 and 39.0.3, then check > that the relevant change is already in 40.0/build4. > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de Thanks, naddy - I was looking through the svn logs, but couldn't seem to find the diff. Just for learning purposes, can you (or anyone else) comment on why there was a beta committed when the stable 39.0.3 seems fine? (As far as I can tell, this beta version was committed to the tree after 39.03 was available.) Thanks again.