From owner-freebsd-testing@freebsd.org Wed Sep 30 20:20:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-testing@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEAEA0B48A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 20:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crodr001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x232.google.com (mail-yk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BC871CA3; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 20:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crodr001@gmail.com) Received: by ykft14 with SMTP id t14so56497271ykf.0; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:20:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2rn1KezIXJJbUNp6VlYP62wYfm0veRNS7N2GeSFOtHI=; b=DN6IVLgT0bTrLx1sGT0Z6e97stzJZQmiHJSBzsPDDgoGK2m/HlmYz/XFVAkwj2oOPA BW0JLJqynlv+7+pEWr0cHVxDedhZuzXHuXR7CI8RY7m05s8f6g9hRZzTLxhCdD4vTElV 9qUXKQ379X68ypd4mGD6tAFrwnWkXet7f9q724jkMOUrKb8W80TdXCJAi/w6it2ZzBpI k6BCorpr0wPdjgZ2z9U6HhDI3TiRg3g//ZcdhWlrhKQ4t8ym8ArIXkm385VctJvDJrY2 DVPhX8ksS3SGDtlCutfWgA9V8ykhPj+OmA+aI9B7RNduH7BnhINzc1kviA7SGKBaPsuT Bb5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.0.65 with SMTP id 62mr4921162ywa.14.1443644413185; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.37.111.214 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:20:13 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zwmGSASM11rzrqJwihr1kL_McEc Message-ID: Subject: kyua and Google Contributor License Agreement From: Craig Rodrigues To: Julio Merino Cc: "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-testing@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Testing on FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 20:20:14 -0000 Hi, The kyua test framework which is used to run all the tests in FreeBSD under /usr/tests/ is available on github: https://github.com/jmmv/kyua/ However, if someone submits a bugfix or enhancement, Julio requires that they sign a Google Contributor License Agreement with Google. I understand that this is necessary, but it is quite unfortunate. I know a number of folks at EMC/Isilon who have walked away from contributing fixes to kyua because of the Google CLA. I have signed the Google CLA for kyua through an online submission form in September 2014, but sometime this year, Google changed their system and lost a bunch of previously submitted CLA signatures (!!) including mine. Honestly, I was kind of pissed, and wasn't motivated to sign the form again. This link: https://github.com/jmmv/kyua/wiki/Contributing doesn't seem to go anywhere, so I can't even figure out the steps to sign the CLA. So we are in a state now where good folks who want to contribute (EMC/Isilon) lose interest because of needing to sign paperwork. We also have instance where random folks on the Internet try to contribute fixes, but then the fixes are in limbo, because the contributors never bother to sign the Google CLA: https://github.com/jmmv/kyua/pulls De facto, what has resulted is that Julio is the sole person who can work on kyua and enhance or fix it. This is really sad, and a major buzzkill for an open source project. kyua is good stuff too, and very helpful for FreeBSD, which makes it even sadder. Is there anything we can do to get out of this dead-end? -> get Google to remove the need for people to sign the Google CLA? -> fork the kyua code, and relicense it so it doesn't need the Google CLA? -> other? Julio has done great work, but it is never good to have a single point of failure for something as important as this. -- Craig