From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Tue Apr 12 03:15:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0970DB0DAC5 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 03:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [96.95.67.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E6F151C for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 03:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vvelox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 218EE377D86D; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 22:14:04 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 22:14:04 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mfi vs mps vs firmware images In-Reply-To: <54B44B22.2020706@sentex.net> References: <54B44B22.2020706@sentex.net> Message-ID: <8cb4350532954611e8a538962a811650@vvelox.net> X-Sender: vvelox@vvelox.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 03:15:14 -0000 On 2015-01-12 16:30, Mike Tancsa wrote: > I have been using a pair of LSI branded 9420-8si cards in my backup > server on RELENG_10 since November 2014 (firmware from Oct 2014 off > the LSI site) and so far so good. However, a number of other users > have warned me not to use the mfi driver, and stick with the MPS > driver and some older versions of the firmware aimed at an IBM m1015. > I use the cards for zfs and to expose the disks individually through > cam with the mfip module and so far so good. > However, folks over on the FreeNAS forum are convinced I am flirting > with data loss using the supposed disastrous mfi driver/firmware > combo. Can anyone shed light on the state of these cards and how > best to use them ? I havent really seen anything on the FreeBSD lists > in the past year indicating serious issues, but then again, I only > started using these cards since Novmeber of last year. > > I do zfs scrubs every month and they have yet to show errors on my > 32TB pool. (a number of raidz2s) Hoi chummer, It is worth noting that these are both two very different beasts. The MFI does not give you direct access to the drives. You have to setup actual RAID arrays with it. If you are using ZFS, this is likely not what you are wanting to do. The MPS version allows you to talk to the actual drives and just a simple HBA. This makes stuff like gmirror and ZFS work nicely with it. Personally I hate the MegaRAID MFI drek and it is one of my least favorite things about Dells after their buggy FW updater... From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Wed Apr 13 07:35:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4A3B0E5AE; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 07:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [96.95.67.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2331817D6; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 07:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vvelox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 65E70377D828; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 02:34:33 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 02:34:33 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: CeDeROM Cc: Dieter BSD , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCIe to USB to PCIe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: vvelox@vvelox.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 07:35:46 -0000 On 2015-09-05 00:49, CeDeROM wrote: > Its not USB but Thunderbolt [1] that gives you the display and 4xPCIe > over > the wire, but its far slower and far more expensive than USB3 :-) > > [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface) This is not one of those though. You can find Thunderbolt to PCIe adapters for using cards outside of laptops, but this is not one of those though. This is just using a USB cable to extend a 1xPCIe in a questionable manner. From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Wed Apr 13 08:22:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D11AB0CEA0; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DADEA1203; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id f198so209640391wme.0; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=fQXVTWkuULr+eY36Xmuc6Z+ELuQP4UaB5sz0BQRZ2IE=; b=P4BPwnHM6j3q84jZPkr/gKo0FrkEjRhV0MMcIpJds8VBAu+TbyR3Mh8GDUwmlSXcF0 ma/6UzQpMuF2S5mjrT+tckNciVIGri8dQg9zlCECsC22C0lT4O5sf60FWSo4R65+VLRX wIfc6Y762TK19Lz4bVEsGLmNdgo5PszZ7pAIlzCjFMVEJpV7E9FOHruXrH65zWqQHBta EQgCH/wL/WzXjp2hDkXYC9vKdG9Ok8r2sgodhbYiEMMmWj/6mBQH3Z4fhlhv4gTHXA9t ko3M1O9mMkE3cxH9ANc5hk17TWQ8TakMeg838XOKPbzsjmysL0jIk3WJr+4Hr4QR1rYk etgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=fQXVTWkuULr+eY36Xmuc6Z+ELuQP4UaB5sz0BQRZ2IE=; b=WDETnZsieLFA7ahGAZpX6R2WGAC5EPh/TEp+yMrXEebaVLotv3UxAWXBtMw6fXiwws xeUurnqox5fxMsZIMfDf5r9rB+4wXU1lzbFVpa7Rk3o1O7qzUm3HzWZJbx/nuLqDYeuu mHDPaabRr+HZZmkSns7nv9v8AzvePDI69cECjkiQSHnNPVIfwY4djlSvTrc8bXN6jqXw pDvMwBGiRVPzMKLJ7qpMFBXRNeUcZytyFT+HaqiEWT2jQRDsKbdAmZsSRgKykZuI8hB1 eiVlLZovNHZ+v1b/GgA1ztInctw5ulwv+G/z94rCzY/Yie+MAY4dnnQIR9Du4jXEYVzK Ivpg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUa3yRCbWfztdnZgObcohm9HalWAOlmv2f/I84mGCA/qlBeH7o6X7c38pzQIPiJnEBssSb71zipcT9nvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.94.231 with SMTP id df7mr4292324wjb.10.1460535772408; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.183.8 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:22:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:22:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yOgjvvacqDD719JBMUFevmazN3E Message-ID: Subject: Re: PCIe to USB to PCIe From: CeDeROM To: "Zane C. B-H." Cc: Dieter BSD , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:22:54 -0000 On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Zane C. B-H. wrote: > On 2015-09-05 00:49, CeDeROM wrote: >> Its not USB but Thunderbolt [1] that gives you the display and 4xPCIe over >> the wire, but its far slower and far more expensive than USB3 :-) >> [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface) > > This is not one of those though. You can find Thunderbolt to PCIe adapters > for > using cards outside of laptops, but this is not one of those though. This is > just using a USB cable to extend a 1xPCIe in a questionable manner. Yea, good luck with the signalling interferences =) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Thu Apr 14 16:39:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4130DADA0F4 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donileo@icloud.com) Received: from st14p31im-asmtp004.me.com (st14p31im-asmtp004.me.com [17.163.246.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 137511FFF for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donileo@icloud.com) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.st14p31im-asmtp004.me.com by st14p31im-asmtp004.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) id <0O5M00400RD0C700@st14p31im-asmtp004.me.com> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:39:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-0-16-19.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [24.0.16.19]) by st14p31im-asmtp004.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0O5M00H6PRHLG640@st14p31im-asmtp004.me.com> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:39:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-04-14_08:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1604140221 From: Adonis Peralta Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Dell Perc6/i Message-id: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:39:20 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13E238) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=4d515a; t=1460648362; bh=PCBiheOsD2x3e75v+2aE/ZpXNVIo2SL8PqV5GD2wS2w=; h=From:Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:Message-id:Date:To; b=QyZLSkfBuxNFBXPhl68Z0Jukslf6LwIO+gshpwwWCXhehzURsWqs2nVq1k6VkvIj0 hjOL8YNBtazt2wosoaKBLlFbUyILg577txtPF8zWjnF4NKjmndU2xxalldCJL/GjgH YrGPCaVGXef5vsP5F38sluLUbQpeSIwOPwZDDWuH0c6XbbMP0SC6wziqJpE/E7aoGT qiFJBD3wRlypQ7apEy74w8tal8VuQLgax9RsM1VomuF0XKg7Quu9CQqHJMSUVOPfVO EPuUPMLU8bV21t8dOUest6vCuWyJeAnZLTSiVSrWk9ZqKGTIscH8meeDY7GejQY8EY BRX/JD0/72r9w== X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:39:44 -0000 Hi all, I'm having issues getting freebsd 10.3 to boot on my Dell R710 server which h= as a Perc6/i with the latest firmware. Install works fine but boot fails wi= th gptboot failing or hanging and the kernel failing to load. I have 4 1TB d= isks set up on Raid0 and this fails. If I set them as individual disks then = Freebsd successfully runs on that single disk. Is the Perc6/i a problem Raid= card with FreeBSD? Thanks, Adonis= From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Thu Apr 14 18:02:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E2EADA9F5 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 18:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AC0C13CB for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 18:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 81133 invoked by uid 110); 14 Apr 2016 17:55:52 -0000 Received: from ool-18bd1306.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@24.189.19.6) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2016 17:55:52 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Adonis Peralta" , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 13:55:46 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Dell Perc6/i Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 18:02:35 -0000 Perc 6/i should work fine unless there is something very unique to your setup. Did you try 10.1? I have that on R710/Perc6/i RAID5 without problems. -Simon On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:39:20 -0400, Adonis Peralta wrote: >Hi all, >I'm having issues getting freebsd 10.3 to boot on my Dell R710 server which has a Perc6/i with the latest firmware. Install works fine but boot fails with gptboot failing or hanging and the kernel failing to load. I have 4 1TB disks set up on Raid0 and this fails. If I set them as individual disks then Freebsd successfully runs on that single disk. Is the Perc6/i a problem Raid card with FreeBSD? >Thanks, >Adonis >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"