From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Sun Jan 31 17:04:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A553A7413C for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from che@bein.link) Received: from mail.bein.link (bein.link [37.252.124.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3711318BE; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from che@bein.link) Received: from netbook.home.bein.link (home.bein.link [172.16.32.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bein.link (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6028724BE06; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 16:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 19:55:32 +0300 From: Maxim Filimonov To: Glen Barber Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TODO/wish list for packaging the FreeBSD base system Message-Id: <20160131195532.72d7b92f747b0b7a5835c060@bein.link> In-Reply-To: <20160129173506.GG1727@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160129173506.GG1727@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:04:40 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:35:06 +0000 Glen Barber wrote: > As previously mentioned, packaging the base system is a requirement of > the 11.0-RELEASE. > > First, a point of clarification on the end goals that surround this. At > present, there is *no* intent to connect pkg(8) to source-based upgrades > and/or 'installworld/installkernel'. There are a few reasons for this, > the most notable reason is the implicit dependency on an active network > link and ability to bootstrap pkg(8) if it is not installed. Since the > pkg(8) utility is not included in the base system, we cannot depend on > the binary to exist on a system, and enforcing network connectivity as > a requirement is at best a POLA violation. > > The goal of this is to provide the ability to manage system installation > with pkg(8), not enforce its use as a requirement of FreeBSD systems. May I thank you for this? This was my concern on the packaged base system, and you're just making it the proper way so I can just go on using source-based updates on my ARM boards. You're awesome, please continue your awesome work! -- Maxim Filimonov