From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Sun May 29 09:00:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54733B512A7 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 09:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBE131BB8; Sun, 29 May 2016 09:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id n129so46126709wmn.1; Sun, 29 May 2016 02:00:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=iH1HW+Mvgtypil5Yb2j7DiJl6zjXAGjwe4Mq2eDE/mg=; b=yO3KooUgBuxdgUg30Yhu/chOo/G9nY8m/1CXIEEAPjYlGkSP6FUylZRk64o7Mt+1HG +ajdF2LoIVhbQtNmUjX8lbcDYx0InyaMZ15DQnTuPGopdjzpqxTkkN/8vCbY7hLtgXz2 v+0Ucjsh2DeRlE6MR7LIm4IHyussPxb8EzNBifzMB4eXuvZFTkb9JQHgeUMV+fqTU3V/ jNtsIdLWEj2lwenvvjgC+4wPhau8ikMsg2g5NLmYaNCfS2CPgPBTLvN+tQ6DgSEYy/Nd MRlXUHFzjpyQjRDdx9fVNpvczMWkGFwKAIrOxCwRolUuTGQvXXnlQwtq5ABKz8pxPLaa i2VA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=iH1HW+Mvgtypil5Yb2j7DiJl6zjXAGjwe4Mq2eDE/mg=; b=ic7t5nZ4h/w6tnp/lUqIpNo3OcQayS29O0Vdl3W7USyn7Q2hywQ8cnnSEfZ4EmT5QA fbNj+hHsamkHU6x6WaunrCuhf8uZCgYW018jgUEBihrOCMxqPz6im6UjibnRWEnt9jOm KxPs+REaUHCHWBVLONf4ctVrCXAOu1XrsFfWcFw1VXNQLPSr9Ameb4BvFprM1/iksflM DxZgeyE3vKso12pm1dtKTt+j+JF0zlCqf5YX1FBgu0OTaNNwQCz6T1he5MurjII2Iyh4 efYH/Wza5oxWBCjCovMf/4yPUpHcaXb4FnchY/lBpwLl1GNmzN6PAc35f+jBYODWBw4j 10mA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIl+TFc7t0nMtqmB4RYPLCGqOhsmyoyfLbuE5392Af1SWTh5PPb4JCqMo+S85h4DKssicFUzWM1gwza8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.79.69 with SMTP id h5mr23938887wjx.129.1464512423140; Sun, 29 May 2016 02:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.222.228 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2016 02:00:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160527210001.GI4025@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 11:00:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol no longer in FreeBSD-runtime package? From: Ben Woods To: Glen Barber Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 09:00:25 -0000 On Saturday, 28 May 2016, Ben Woods wrote: > On 27 May 2016 at 23:00, Glen Barber > wrote: > >> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:54:12PM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > I have just completed a packaged base upgrade, and for some reason the >> > /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol scripts are no longer in the >> > FreeBSD-runtime package. >> > >> > Any ideas what the cause is for this? >> > > > I suspect this is unrelated to PkgBase, as is instead caused by the freebsd-current issue described here: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2016-May/061512.html Doing a test build after the fix now to see if it is now working. Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Sun May 29 17:57:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B00BB54553 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 17:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A6D1F4D; Sun, 29 May 2016 17:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A21B1AEE; Sun, 29 May 2016 17:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 17:57:01 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Ben Woods Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol no longer in FreeBSD-runtime package? Message-ID: <20160529175701.GA80759@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160527210001.GI4025@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event X-PEKBAC-Definition: Problem Exists, Keyboard Between Admin/Computer User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 17:57:04 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:00:23AM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: > On Saturday, 28 May 2016, Ben Woods wrote: >=20 > > On 27 May 2016 at 23:00, Glen Barber > > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:54:12PM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: > >> > Hi everyone, > >> > > >> > I have just completed a packaged base upgrade, and for some reason t= he > >> > /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol scripts are no longer in the > >> > FreeBSD-runtime package. > >> > > >> > Any ideas what the cause is for this? > >> > > > > > > I suspect this is unrelated to PkgBase, as is instead caused by the > freebsd-current issue described here: > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2016-May/061512.html >=20 > Doing a test build after the fix now to see if it is now working. >=20 Great. (Well, you know what I mean.) Thanks for the follow-up. :-) Glen --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXSy1oAAoJEAMUWKVHj+KTqD4P/2qe/85ujSblw3BoJeFgQn5z YV6yQn+jcXh1QRN12cbrMJV0oD+CVJJV94b+MIK3/x0cmWVaLzMdN0aj2U9MAI6r 9sRB7KqJy+EXn5llgHTvUUfsx9TckwuG5/+L0yk/5nq8yru1aafg/uYPjzrcCbLu Q6dzjgJQF8grxv2Scie0WxmnP/mGKUoqE9NM7NQ38zMTFmzcOjauKjxWAdzxkLbs 7mpRPnRSRoGVq2FSkPcZVvZymgnv3OdRUX1uqQuYSv76FWDvt0mk8yzLPL7spyEr qtRpU07YEbqh8pNqEtBEazJckHxFc/kdbdk3ALEkfb/sBRTrLvN9OzwLcYUbq73S xgfKFk7+pT3Nc286XVOgTUhZGUjiq/vv3We6E9Ap/w2RH5SOXC8tNSDnjhLoASVo HQShkRoepEwgp9nAlK60GO7pR3UfxPhVRUqLhhXNaauDJuwJE6iEIbnrqJESFBRr nc1plSEb7xPHJxBnzFsodGi5c/fxiiwVinatFhloa+ezORDa49SCwsFXyaXXlFTQ A8dLz4XJIGmvou4x43rO8veEYcTk8c6nVgn6cLahMVIyv+1oewT1d0amn4MIqe05 p8PZz2fffpeqw4xLb6/it+5w2AjKmBagIQykyDlNxEDiBNOCdXw/U+kPmiFVb9Nr FPmD/fYYu2Bozjz+VBIS =nayA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Sun May 29 22:14:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1E3B542DD for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C97D71DE1; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id n129so61888406wmn.1; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:14:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=GULXpfASJMuv3cYWQU4Aae2bKCO58VXPUc4vKJ7l4ic=; b=v6CosgoE6x8+ghT5iF12MSqfHugonINNmwkxpHOxIDEQtptLd/oWy3/MsZV2ATd1v1 aVKvUdtXTvgf+bvNW6jQmZyEIIPu/KmZNRdI0Rwstms2TeQ4wsgIZhwkkchg2432h8mB 8lCwbsBQKqQ3EaDp5TOg5XLOIly/Ta68Lwo/VZC33Zx33ewY9DpdGk6XfpubEdGnm0+U WQIm/cv0A7gREJXoD6r0En+qLT0S5tqR2WdadN93AikHp7uQfMWCerZo/U44E+KeJ0K7 Fuiq5oEA9KRsrnXfb7xTyaIKuhRRpE5FDjDPdivg3QkbiycdK3bcSBQVejq/wyfEz2lz mq6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=GULXpfASJMuv3cYWQU4Aae2bKCO58VXPUc4vKJ7l4ic=; b=aeNuN1jEA8m0NzRea0c5O81nmm6GGml6OERKUAk6Xj+H4lVgbpvYiwSAUtdF5cMs4X CrxKwhlhBY2wCwAqnSd8U+ozROBz3jEiMoyOD2MPbZ1Oz0A4RCbN/GPP3hHFbR/FdJX4 hCEu1wa71TSPHRG6cDw0xiB9jnTr2rBWa0EYyjwXq8Cac4tUY/pQJhaT5z4Gl6QKjNZI 2V0wGdrPN3fN1sV3sxHnlS1YzNNPVlPpsl+a/OtaGCjw7xtzvXL9PNc88hvmLxSdOnfp +FH5x2zL5pxuMndreJseURg4BHKAxgobQmWjlSWR5+3h9YSIPxcGoCkxRwWtefZ3F9tB HS+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLcyco9WEHGD1+ir7DKdwVxlLSixTLEPGZHXOGhWKBAb91hvQewlrxw596BoIGd3qUMec9cywmjiOAeOQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.0.84 with SMTP id 81mr8060829wma.23.1464560038559; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.222.228 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:13:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160529175701.GA80759@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160527210001.GI4025@FreeBSD.org> <20160529175701.GA80759@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 00:13:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol no longer in FreeBSD-runtime package? From: Ben Woods To: Glen Barber Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:14:01 -0000 Hi everyone, Actually, this was a different issue, but I have worked out the problem. It relates to r299840. https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=299840 Basically, r299840 introduced a new FreeBSD-zfs package, which I did not have installed. So when I did a pkg upgrade, it upgraded FreeBSD-runtime and removed this files which were now split off into the new FreeBSD-zfs package. Obviously, since I did not have the new FreeBSD-zfs package previously installed, the files were not installed under this new package. The fix is simple: pkg install FreeBSD-zfs However, it does raise the point that whenever a new base pkg is created, how should users be informed? Should pkg provide a warning that some files have been moved to a newer package that isnt being installed, or should it be a note in UPDATING? Regards, Ben -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com On 29 May 2016 at 19:57, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:00:23AM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: > > On Saturday, 28 May 2016, Ben Woods wrote: > > > > > On 27 May 2016 at 23:00, Glen Barber > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:54:12PM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: > > >> > Hi everyone, > > >> > > > >> > I have just completed a packaged base upgrade, and for some reason > the > > >> > /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol scripts are no longer in the > > >> > FreeBSD-runtime package. > > >> > > > >> > Any ideas what the cause is for this? > > >> > > > > > > > > > I suspect this is unrelated to PkgBase, as is instead caused by the > > freebsd-current issue described here: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2016-May/061512.html > > > > Doing a test build after the fix now to see if it is now working. > > > > Great. (Well, you know what I mean.) > > Thanks for the follow-up. :-) > > Glen > > From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Sun May 29 22:19:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57104B543C6 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBA5110F; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05B013EC; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:19:45 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Ben Woods Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol no longer in FreeBSD-runtime package? Message-ID: <20160529221945.GE80759@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160527210001.GI4025@FreeBSD.org> <20160529175701.GA80759@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Uwl7UQhJk99r8jnw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event X-PEKBAC-Definition: Problem Exists, Keyboard Between Admin/Computer User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:19:46 -0000 --Uwl7UQhJk99r8jnw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:13:58AM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: > Actually, this was a different issue, but I have worked out the problem. = It > relates to r299840. > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D299840 >=20 I didn't notice this change, thank you for tracking it down. > Basically, r299840 introduced a new FreeBSD-zfs package, which I did not > have installed. So when I did a pkg upgrade, it upgraded FreeBSD-runtime > and removed this files which were now split off into the new FreeBSD-zfs > package. Obviously, since I did not have the new FreeBSD-zfs package > previously installed, the files were not installed under this new package. >=20 > The fix is simple: pkg install FreeBSD-zfs >=20 Yeah, but until you realize what new package is needed, it is a bit non-intuitive. (This is one of the main reasons we're considering packaged base "beta" for 11.0-RELEASE.) > However, it does raise the point that whenever a new base pkg is created, > how should users be informed? Should pkg provide a warning that some files > have been moved to a newer package that isnt being installed, or should it > be a note in UPDATING? >=20 This is a good question. I'm not sure what the answer here is, to be honest. But you raise a very good, and very serious concern. What I think we should do is something along the lines of the MOVED file in the ports tree. But doing this on a per-file level does not quite scale very well. My fear here is ending up with something that resembles OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc. In the meantime, would you mind adding this particular issue (not the FreeBSD-zfs package, but the underlying problem) to the PkgBase wiki page? 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From: Ben Woods To: Glen Barber Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:50:23 -0000 On Monday, 30 May 2016, Glen Barber wrote: > > In the meantime, would you mind adding this particular issue (not the > FreeBSD-zfs package, but the underlying problem) to the PkgBase wiki > page? > Done. Thanks, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Sun May 29 22:54:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B03B54C4D for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364621AFA; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9961E63; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:54:41 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Ben Woods Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol no longer in FreeBSD-runtime package? Message-ID: <20160529225441.GH80759@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160527210001.GI4025@FreeBSD.org> <20160529175701.GA80759@FreeBSD.org> <20160529221945.GE80759@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPDwMsyfds7q4mrK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event X-PEKBAC-Definition: Problem Exists, Keyboard Between Admin/Computer User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:54:42 -0000 --ZPDwMsyfds7q4mrK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:50:20AM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: > On Monday, 30 May 2016, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > In the meantime, would you mind adding this particular issue (not the > > FreeBSD-zfs package, but the underlying problem) to the PkgBase wiki > > page? > > >=20 > Done. >=20 Thank you very much. Glen --ZPDwMsyfds7q4mrK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXS3MxAAoJEAMUWKVHj+KTmzwP/0xZK3VJy1CMTyK+wueeJCvi mO0/TC4t0MMYgbIDyF6k8104K+N+68bIdVZht6EvbB9TLKJ9z4nJYCf6KIZ9TMwI wPYTHEqlFqEcj1v3SVUdrYdJtuwFarRtn4+FYyDlvEuFfzXMJmQrKBuqEhQMZt3X V9lKe4mkmABzzXx7pIvdn2FeIchZq0rUG0V7QrIQlD4GREbYSB7wmqbFs0DlDQVG xAwM83sWLwYWyRYh65WoHnE4Bowi1eO3U6PAF33cVbFgFdLgEbGP8IP1DF58iRC6 9z8EMNY9D7qwXbThUxr7ZZX4YaxVOTHpLaZzzIw7QNEHXlLmJYs5sstRcaSZwsbx bfmtqaojIVM0acl8RGKalc7/iCqmb3ElUe6H/DuYG8BXl99rQuwFN+k7eCl93iJe oqCVRFsukvocDRRMQiC2BcblbHagriCWqE6GIYRYeT2MW8ksY2j5ZhsrJLNVstpW kyPuKlsSnyQEGk6Ht3oUEUPV+tMr7Jtl1Gv6FpuLx3vEvK8K/vWAsROujtiI4P0u 4KVzRvj+43AminV0GLJkArXCmk67Jp+S9MULZEvkknO+rHh1dqH+8tidzcqjfh+N jlmDse+a4eOPrJHOWW5vneeD14m9GVOFIutnQH9meqR9sI9oTxXlLprQClHj/Y0n 0WsLpJG7m88+uA9sEjBN =rECX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPDwMsyfds7q4mrK-- From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Mon May 30 06:34:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C3AB54E04 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 06:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7538516D4; Mon, 30 May 2016 06:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b7GmI-0001zs-Vi; Mon, 30 May 2016 09:34:18 +0300 Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:34:18 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Glen Barber Cc: Ben Woods , "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/zfs and /etc/rc.d/zvol no longer in FreeBSD-runtime package? Message-ID: <20160530063418.GB34407@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160527210001.GI4025@FreeBSD.org> <20160529175701.GA80759@FreeBSD.org> <20160529221945.GE80759@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160529221945.GE80759@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 06:34:22 -0000 On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:19:45PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:13:58AM +0200, Ben Woods wrote: > > Actually, this was a different issue, but I have worked out the problem. It > > relates to r299840. > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=299840 > > > > I didn't notice this change, thank you for tracking it down. > > > Basically, r299840 introduced a new FreeBSD-zfs package, which I did not > > have installed. So when I did a pkg upgrade, it upgraded FreeBSD-runtime > > and removed this files which were now split off into the new FreeBSD-zfs > > package. Obviously, since I did not have the new FreeBSD-zfs package > > previously installed, the files were not installed under this new package. > > > > The fix is simple: pkg install FreeBSD-zfs > > > > Yeah, but until you realize what new package is needed, it is a bit > non-intuitive. (This is one of the main reasons we're considering > packaged base "beta" for 11.0-RELEASE.) > > > However, it does raise the point that whenever a new base pkg is created, > > how should users be informed? Should pkg provide a warning that some files > > have been moved to a newer package that isnt being installed, or should it > > be a note in UPDATING? > > > > This is a good question. > > I'm not sure what the answer here is, to be honest. But you raise > a very good, and very serious concern. > > What I think we should do is something along the lines of the MOVED file > in the ports tree. But doing this on a per-file level does not quite > scale very well. My fear here is ending up with something that > resembles OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc. May be adding new feature to pkg? spliting and mergering packages and track history of this in repo base? > In the meantime, would you mind adding this particular issue (not the > FreeBSD-zfs package, but the underlying problem) to the PkgBase wiki > page? > > Glen >