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Subject: From llvm: Fwd: [Bug 26970] clang 3.8.0 for powerpc64 vs. FreeBSD
buildworld: error: invalid float ABI 'soft float is not supported for ppc64'
[llvm r283060/r283061 are a fix]
From: Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>
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llvm's bugzilla reports that as of llvm's -r283060/-r283061 =
TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc64 (in FreeBSD terms) has soft-float available in =
clang (probably this is on/from trunk). See the forward below.
This was another of the items blocking use of clang 3.8.0 for buildworld =
and the like for powerpc64.
This is another fix by Hal Finkel, one of the two people that have =
recently been working on things that block clang's use as the system =
compiler for TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc64 and TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc for =
FreeBSD.
[Note: Lots of the fixes made so far would be required for clang's that =
are from ports and target powerpc64 and/or powerpc as well, especially =
for powerpc since clang produces code that has (SVR4) ABI violations for =
stack handling. (so-called "red-zone" on stack for signal handling =
required to protect that stack --but the ABI says such should not be =
required and the standard kernel does not provide such.)]
With the prior llvm -r282174 completing the SVR4 stack handling ABI =
fixes for TARGE_ARCH=3Dpowerpc plus the work before that I expect this =
leaves only some of the C++ exception handling defects from what I'd =
submitted as bugzilla reports to llvm, for powerpc64 and for powerpc.
If projects/clang390-import also picks up these latest fixes ( -r282174 =
, -r283060 , -r283061 ) some interesting powerpc64 and powerpc =
experiments should be possible. (But it will be around a couple of weeks =
before I've got access to the powerpc64 and powerpc machines again.)
=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
markmi at dsl-only.net
Begin forwarded message:
> From: bugzilla-daemon[ at ]llvm.org
> Subject: [Bug 26970] clang 3.8.0 for powerpc64 vs. FreeBSD buildworld: =
error: invalid float ABI 'soft float is not supported for ppc64'
> Date: October 1, 2016 at 7:12:07 PM PDT
> To: <markmi[ at ]dsl-only.net>
>=20
> Hal Finkel changed bug 26970=20
> What Removed Added
> Status NEW RESOLVED
> Resolution --- FIXED
>=20
> Comment # 1 on bug 26970 from Hal Finkel
> r283060/r283061 enables soft-float for PPC64.
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INDEX build failed with errors:
Generating INDEX-9 - please wait.."/usr/share/mk/bsd.init.mk", line 12: Unknown directive
Unknown modifier 'U'
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 38: Malformed conditional (${MK_CCACHE_BUILD:Uno} == "yes" && !make(showconfig) && (${CC:M*ccache/world/*} == "" || ${CXX:M*ccache/world/*} == ""))
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 107: missing `in' in for
X_ in CC $${_empty_var_} XCC X_
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 108: Malformed conditional (${cc} == "CC" || !empty(XCC))
Unknown modifier 'h'
Error expanding embedded variable.
"Makefile", line 22: warning: "fmake -f "/home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/www/tclhttpd/files/Makefile.lib" -V SHLIB_NAME" returned non-zero status
Done.
make_index: /home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/editors/flim: no entry for /home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/editors/apel-emacs25
Committers on the hook:
ashish
Most recent SVN update was:
Updating '.':
U Mk/bsd.emacs.mk
D editors/emacs/pkg-deinstall
U editors/emacs/Makefile
U editors/emacs/distinfo
D editors/emacs/files/pkg-install.in
D editors/emacs/files/patch-src_unexaix.c
D editors/emacs/files/patch-src_unexelf.c
D editors/emacs/files/patch-src_unexcoff.c
A editors/emacs/files/extrapatch-lldb-gud.el
U editors/emacs/pkg-plist
U editors/emacs-devel/Makefile
U editors/emacs-devel/distinfo
D editors/emacs-devel/files/patch-sources.el
A editors/emacs-devel/files/sources.el.in
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U editors/emacs-nox11/Makefile
Updated to revision 423103.
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From: Ports Index build <indexbuild@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: INDEX build failed for 9.x
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 06:09:47 GMT
> INDEX build failed with errors:
> Generating INDEX-9 - please wait.."/usr/share/mk/bsd.init.mk", line 12: Unknown directive
> Unknown modifier 'U'
>
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 38: Malformed conditional (${MK_CCACHE_BUILD:Uno} == "yes" && !make(showconfig) && (${CC:M*ccache/world/*} == "" || ${CXX:M*ccache/world/*} == ""))
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 107: missing `in' in for
> X_ in CC $${_empty_var_} XCC X_
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 108: Malformed conditional (${cc} == "CC" || !empty(XCC))
> Unknown modifier 'h'
>
> Error expanding embedded variable.
> "Makefile", line 22: warning: "fmake -f "/home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/www/tclhttpd/files/Makefile.lib" -V SHLIB_NAME" returned non-zero status
> Done.
> make_index: /home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/editors/flim: no entry for /home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/editors/apel-emacs25
>
> Committers on the hook:
> ashish
>
> Most recent SVN update was:
> Updating '.':
> U Mk/bsd.emacs.mk
> D editors/emacs/pkg-deinstall
> U editors/emacs/Makefile
> U editors/emacs/distinfo
> D editors/emacs/files/pkg-install.in
> D editors/emacs/files/patch-src_unexaix.c
> D editors/emacs/files/patch-src_unexelf.c
> D editors/emacs/files/patch-src_unexcoff.c
> A editors/emacs/files/extrapatch-lldb-gud.el
> U editors/emacs/pkg-plist
> U editors/emacs-devel/Makefile
> U editors/emacs-devel/distinfo
> D editors/emacs-devel/files/patch-sources.el
> A editors/emacs-devel/files/sources.el.in
> U editors/emacs-devel/pkg-plist
> U editors/emacs-nox11/Makefile
> Updated to revision 423103.
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Attached patch should fix build failure.
---
Yasuhiro KIMURA
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Index: editors/flim/Makefile
===================================================================
--- editors/flim/Makefile (revision 423103)
+++ editors/flim/Makefile (working copy)
@@ -50,12 +50,12 @@
.include <bsd.port.pre.mk>
.if defined(EMACS_PORT_NAME)
-.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs23") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs24") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
+.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs25") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
DEPPORT_SUFFIX=
.else
DEPPORT_SUFFIX= -${EMACS_PORT_NAME}
.endif
-.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs23") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs24") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
+.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs25") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
PLIST= ${PKGDIR}/pkg-plist.emacs21
.endif
# depends on apel (case of xemacs-21.x or later)
Index: editors/semi/Makefile
===================================================================
--- editors/semi/Makefile (revision 423103)
+++ editors/semi/Makefile (working copy)
@@ -48,12 +48,12 @@
.include <bsd.port.options.mk>
.if defined(EMACS_PORT_NAME)
-.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs23") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs24") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
+.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs25") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
DEPPORT_SUFFIX=
.else
DEPPORT_SUFFIX= -${EMACS_PORT_NAME}
.endif
-.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs23") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs24") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
+.if (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs25") || (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == "emacs-devel")
PLIST= ${PKGDIR}/pkg-plist.emacs20
.endif
# depends on flim
Index: graphics/xface.el/Makefile
===================================================================
--- graphics/xface.el/Makefile (revision 423103)
+++ graphics/xface.el/Makefile (working copy)
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
MAINTAINER= ports@FreeBSD.org
COMMENT= X-Face encoder/decoder/viewer for Emacsen
-EMACS_PORT_NAME?= emacs24
+EMACS_PORT_NAME?= emacs25
RUN_DEPENDS= compface:mail/faces
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What is the status of www/seamonkey and prospect of updating from 2.39 to the current 2.40, which was released from upstream on March 14, 2016?
What makes me nervous is my bank saber-rattling about needing a more current browser.
Seamonkey 2.39 worked on this bank, now it blocks me with error message about my browser not being up-to-date; Seamonkey still works for other online financial services.
I figure either the bank website doesn't like Seamonkey, though Firefox also appears in the user-agent string, or doesn't like FreeBSD, insisting on Windows or Mac.
I also have www/qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, see on qupzilla.com that current version is 2.0.1. I have used qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, but it seems less robust that Seamonkey 2.39. Reason for my interest is the ability to fudge the user-agent string; I believe Xombrero and Midori also have this ability.
If I have to build qupzilla anew, hopefully updated, I might switch to qupzilla-qt5.
uname -a shows
FreeBSD amelia 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #10 r294248: Mon Jan 18 11:28:40 UTC 2016 root@amelia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDY11NC amd64
I am getting ready to update both NetBSD and FreeBSD.
Tom
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"Thomas Mueller" <mueller6722@twc.com> wrote:
Hi Thomas,
> What is the status of www/seamonkey and prospect of updating from 2.39 to the current 2.40, which was released from upstream on March 14, 2016?
>
> What makes me nervous is my bank saber-rattling about needing a more current browser.
>
> Seamonkey 2.39 worked on this bank, now it blocks me with error message about my browser not being up-to-date; Seamonkey still works for other online financial services.
>
> I figure either the bank website doesn't like Seamonkey, though Firefox also appears in the user-agent string, or doesn't like FreeBSD, insisting on Windows or Mac.
>
> I also have www/qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, see on qupzilla.com that current version is 2.0.1. I have used qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, but it seems less robust that Seamonkey 2.39. Reason for my interest is the ability to fudge the user-agent string; I believe Xombrero and Midori also have this ability.
>
> If I have to build qupzilla anew, hopefully updated, I might switch to qupzilla-qt5.
For Seamonkey, I think the gecko@ team needs fresh blood.
About update of Qupzilla (2.0.x), it depends of Qt 5.6, this update was pushed 2 weeks ago (revision r422306 [1]), unfortunately it also requires QtWebEngine not yet in ports tree (see comment log).
Regards,
[1] https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/?view=log&pathrev=422306
>
> uname -a shows
>
> FreeBSD amelia 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #10 r294248: Mon Jan 18 11:28:40 UTC 2016 root@amelia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDY11NC amd64
>
> I am getting ready to update both NetBSD and FreeBSD.
>
> Tom
>
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On Sunday 02 October 2016 08:00:03 Thomas Mueller wrote:
> What is the status of www/seamonkey and prospect of updating from 2.39 to
> the current 2.40, which was released from upstream on March 14, 2016?
>
> What makes me nervous is my bank saber-rattling about needing a more current
> browser.
>
> Seamonkey 2.39 worked on this bank, now it blocks me with error message
> about my browser not being up-to-date; Seamonkey still works for other
> online financial services.
>
> I figure either the bank website doesn't like Seamonkey, though Firefox also
> appears in the user-agent string, or doesn't like FreeBSD, insisting on
> Windows or Mac.
>
> I also have www/qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, see on qupzilla.com that current version
> is 2.0.1. I have used qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, but it seems less robust that
> Seamonkey 2.39. Reason for my interest is the ability to fudge the
> user-agent string; I believe Xombrero and Midori also have this ability.
>
> If I have to build qupzilla anew, hopefully updated, I might switch to
> qupzilla-qt5.
>
Qupzill-qt5 is a much better choice than qupzilla-qt4 due to the newer webkit
included in qt5, relative to qt4. That is version of webkit in qt5 (even 5.6)
is quite dated.
QupZilla 2.x is signiificantly different, re-written to use qtwebengine instead
of qtwebkit. qtwebengine has not been ported since that is a task similar to
Chromium and upstream (Google) does not accept patched for platforms they
don't support, i.e. *BSD. QupZilla 2.x will be a separate port from QupZilla
1.x, but that will not come until qtwebengine.
Meanwhile, there is a new effort to maintain qtwebkit upstream, and this is
being tested. It is not yet feature complete, but there should be an updated
qtwebkit sooner or later which works with QupZilla 1.x and other browsers.
> uname -a shows
>
> FreeBSD amelia 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #10 r294248: Mon Jan 18
> 11:28:40 UTC 2016 root@amelia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDY11NC amd64
>
> I am getting ready to update both NetBSD and FreeBSD.
>
> Tom
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Generating INDEX-9 - please wait.."/usr/share/mk/bsd.init.mk", line 12: Unknown directive
Unknown modifier 'U'
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 38: Malformed conditional (${MK_CCACHE_BUILD:Uno} == "yes" && !make(showconfig) && (${CC:M*ccache/world/*} == "" || ${CXX:M*ccache/world/*} == ""))
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 107: missing `in' in for
X_ in CC $${_empty_var_} XCC X_
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk", line 108: Malformed conditional (${cc} == "CC" || !empty(XCC))
Unknown modifier 'h'
Error expanding embedded variable.
"Makefile", line 22: warning: "fmake -f "/home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/www/tclhttpd/files/Makefile.lib" -V SHLIB_NAME" returned non-zero status
Done.
make_index: /home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/editors/flim: no entry for /home/indexbuild/tindex/ports/editors/apel-emacs25
Committers on the hook:
amdmi3 ashish brnrd ohauer olivierd pawel ume
Most recent SVN update was:
Updating '.':
U security/openssl/Makefile
U security/openssl/pkg-plist
U www/py-cachecontrol/Makefile
UU www/py-cachecontrol/distinfo
U irc/riece/Makefile
A irc/riece/files
A irc/riece/files/patch-lisp_riece-highlight.el
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A irc/riece/files/patch-lisp_riece-unread.el
U graphics/lightzone/Makefile
U graphics/lightzone/distinfo
U dns/unbound/Makefile
U dns/unbound/distinfo
U dns/unbound/pkg-plist
UU mail/postfix/files/pkg-install.in
U mail/postfix/Makefile
U mail/postfix/distinfo
UU mail/postfix211/files/pkg-install.in
U textproc/py-cloud_sptheme/Makefile
Updated to revision 423112.
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Hey there,
It looks like editors/flim may be broken, causing Poudriere to fail the
calculating dependencies stage. editors/flim now depends on a
non-existent emacs port, editors/apel-emacs25.
Here's the exact error from Poudriere:
Error: editors/flim depends on nonexistent origin 'editors/apel-emacs25'; P=
lease contact maintainer of the port to fix this.
Thanks,
--=20
Shawn Webb
Cofounder and Security Engineer
HardenedBSD
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> It looks like editors/flim may be broken, causing Poudriere to fail the
> calculating dependencies stage. editors/flim now depends on a
> non-existent emacs port, editors/apel-emacs25.
>
> Here's the exact error from Poudriere:
>
> Error: editors/flim depends on nonexistent origin 'editors/apel-emacs25'; Please contact maintainer of the port to fix this.
>
> Thanks,
Pleae update port tree. It should be fixed in r423116.
Regards.
---
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> Hello, fellow packagers/porters/maintainers!
>
> Just wanted to announce the project I've been working on.
>
> Repology analyzes multiple package/ports repositores (currently
> supports FreeBSD ports, Debian packages, Gentoo portage, pkgsrc,
> OpenBSD ports and Arch Linux packages) and compares package versions
> across them. The project is supposed to be useful for package
> maintainers (as another way to discover new software releases and
> to improve communication between different packaging systems),
> software authors (ability to track the state of their product
> packaging) and users.
>
> The project is usable as both command line tool for generating
> custom reports and a prototype static website generator which runs
> on [1], where you can browse all known packages by maintainer and
> by repository.
>
> Support for more repositories and features is planned. Source is
> available on GitHub [2].
>
> Feedback welcome!
This is very cool! I really like it. Planing on creating a FreeBSD port
for it?
Emanuel
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On Sunday, 2 October 2016 17:29:05 CEST, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen=20
<stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
> I am trying to build the port graphics/opendx, and at the qa stage it says:=
>=20
> Error: /usr/local/dx/bin_freebsd/builder is linked to
> /usr/local/lib/libcdf.so which does not have a SONAME.
> science/cdf needs to be fixed.
>=20
> What does this mean, and how do I fix it?
>=20
> BTW I am maintainer of both ports.
I can see with Don Google for 'freebsd ports soname' how others fixed the=20
same issue; the porters handbook has no match for SONAME -:(
matthias
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On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen <
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> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which have
> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LICENSE in
> those ports?
>
> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each individual
> file has its own license.
> _______________________________________________
>
>
In my local directories , I am appending license name to directory names ,
for example ,
.../A_BSD
.../B_MIT
.../C_BSD_or_LGPL
.../D_BSD_see_Parts <---------- This means it contains many different
licensed files although primary license is BSD . Such directories require
special care if ever any part is used from them .
I think , it is possible to adopt such definition conventions for the ports
.
Thank you very much .
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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On 10/02/2016 10:29 AM, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen wrote:
> I am trying to build the port graphics/opendx, and at the qa stage it say=
s:
>=20
> Error: /usr/local/dx/bin_freebsd/builder is linked to
> /usr/local/lib/libcdf.so which does not have a SONAME.
> science/cdf needs to be fixed.
>=20
> What does this mean, and how do I fix it?
I came up with "a" solution:
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D423146=
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"Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which
> have licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set
> LICENSE in those ports?
Like this example:
LICENSE= CPLV1
LICENSE_NAME= CPL V1.0 license
LICENSE_FILE= ${WRKSRC}/CPLv1.0.txt
LICENSE_PERMS= dist-mirror dist-sell pkg-mirror pkg-sell auto-accept
Change LICENSE_PERMS as appropriate.
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from Matthew Rezny:
> Qupzill-qt5 is a much better choice than qupzilla-qt4 due to the newer webkit
> included in qt5, relative to qt4. That is version of webkit in qt5 (even 5.6)
> is quite dated.
> QupZilla 2.x is signiificantly different, re-written to use qtwebengine instead
> of qtwebkit. qtwebengine has not been ported since that is a task similar to
> Chromium and upstream (Google) does not accept patched for platforms they
> don't support, i.e. *BSD. QupZilla 2.x will be a separate port from QupZilla
> 1.x, but that will not come until qtwebengine.
> Meanwhile, there is a new effort to maintain qtwebkit upstream, and this is
> being tested. It is not yet feature complete, but there should be an updated
> qtwebkit sooner or later which works with QupZilla 1.x and other browsers.
Thanks to you and Olivier Duchateau for explanation regarding complications involved in updating QupZilla!
I see Haikuports includes QupZilla only up to 1.8.7, and QupZilla is not in NetBSD pkgsrc but is in pkgsrc/wip (work in progress) at v1.8.6.
I'd like to be able to switch fully from qt4 to qt5, but print/hplip is set up only for qt4; however print/hplip in pkgsrc offers the choice between qt4 and qt5, qt4 being regarded as legacy.
Tom
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On 2 October 2016 at 14:44, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
<stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which have
> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LICENSE in
> those ports?
The other answers are correct. If the license is standard (listed
here: https://spdx.org/licenses/) we should add it to the main
database.
> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each individual
> file has its own license.
A "custom" license that merely states to check the distfiles should be
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David Demelier wrote:
> 2016-09-29 17:36 GMT+02:00 Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>:
> > Le 29/09/2016 à 17:03, Christian Weisgerber a écrit :
> >> On 2016-09-14, Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Google Code has been deprecated[1] since March 2015, and read-only since
> >>> August 2015, giving time to software developers to move their
> >>> development some place else. All the distribution files that still use
> >>> solely googlecode.com as their source have been marked BROKEN today in
> >>> r422140[2], as they are not fetchable.
> >>>
> >>> Most software have moved to some other place (mostly on github), all you
> >>> have to do is figure out where and update your ports accordingly.
> >> Or you can simply replace
> >>
> >> ${PROJECT}.googlecode.com/files/
> >>
> >> with
> >>
> >> https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/${PROJECT}/
> >>
> >> which could have trivially been done in bsd.sites.mk.
> >>
> >
> > No you cannot.
> >
> > Before marking all the ports BROKEN, I started by changing the
> > MASTER_SITE_GOOGLE_CODE entry to make things fetchable again. The
> > problem with that approach is that it is just hiding the fact that the
> > software have not been updated for more than a year and will never be
> > again. The goal of marking all those ports broken is that people will go
> > and look for where the software went after google code, so that it gets
> > updated when new releases go out.
> >
> > If the software has not been moved to some other place, (it takes about
> > 30 seconds to click the automatic migration to github thing, and it is
> > usually done within the hour,) since march 2015, it is most likely
> > abandoned and should not be kept in the ports tree.
> >
>
> As many have pointed out here, abandoned does not mean it's not usable
> anymore. There are dozen of ports or software not maintained anymore
> and still work because they do not require maintenance.
>
> Marking as broken is a bit hurried IMHO. We should provide a longer
> expiration date by keeping distfiles to our FreeBSD mirrors for a
> while until the upstream moves to somewhere else. Of course, we should
> also bulk mail the maintainer to tell that the port will expire and
> distfiles removed at the time.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Demelier David
BROKEN was useful when introduced, but is too crude, needs improving.
Setting BROKEN= when merely distfile is not at URLs is not true,
it's not broken & will make if distfile is in local distfiles/.
BROKEN is itself part Broken, a liability, as once someone sets it,
it encourages others to later delete working ports.
BROKEN needs to be improved/ split.
FreeBSD should seek to _automatically_ encourage those who still have a
distfile in local distfiles/ to contribute it back to Internet.
eg create a new assert NO_DISTFILE=true that does something approx like
launch in a subshell code below, called with a - prepended to Makefile line,
so it does not break the make of next port entry from SUBDIR +=
.if !defined(DISTFILES_MISSING_CHECK_ONLY_SILENTLY)
echo "Distfile[s] lost from Internet, Checking if you have them localy."
.endif
make fetch # Not checksum, cos even wrong checksums can sometimes work.
echo "Distfile[s] lost from Internet, You still have, Please give a copy to:"
echo "`grep MAINTAINER Makefile` and or ports@freebsd.org"
make checksum
echo "Distfile[s] even have right checksums! Definately give us a copy!"
echo "`pwd` has Distfile[s] lost from Internet, Please give FreeBSD a copy!" \
| mail `whoami`
Do Not turn whole block of by default as noisey, cos we need it to
run by default, so people with local distfiles see it, & return distfiles
Above is a crude. I could improve & create a patch for bsd.port.mk
but as people may likely suggest improvements + its guarded by
FreeBSD_MAINTAINER= portmgr@FreeBSD.org
better that they do it ?.
Cheers,
Julian
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Le 01/10/2016 =C3=A0 04:35, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
make config.
> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
> as a dependency, as
> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
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The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
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Le 02/10/2016 =C3=A0 21:07, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :
> On 10/02/2016 10:29 AM, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen wrote:
>> I am trying to build the port graphics/opendx, and at the qa stage it =
says:
>>
>> Error: /usr/local/dx/bin_freebsd/builder is linked to
>> /usr/local/lib/libcdf.so which does not have a SONAME.
>> science/cdf needs to be fixed.
>>
>> What does this mean, and how do I fix it?
> I came up with "a" solution:
>
> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D423146
It is a good solution, yes. The check is there because pkg will not
register shlib dependencies if the .so do not have a soname. This is a
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On 3 October 2016 at 05:31, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
<stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
> On 10/02/2016 05:27 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> On 2 October 2016 at 14:44, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which have
>>> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LICENSE in
>>> those ports?
>>
>> The other answers are correct. If the license is standard (listed
>> here: https://spdx.org/licenses/) we should add it to the main
>> database.
>>
>>> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each individual
>>> file has its own license.
>>
>> A "custom" license that merely states to check the distfiles should be
>> sufficient.
>
> How about a meta port, whose dependencies all have different licenses?
> Something similar?
meta-ports shouldn't define a license at all. I'm not sure we have a
way to shut the warnings up though.
--
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On 03/10/2016 12:14, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
> make config.
>
>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>> as a dependency, as
>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>> and whistles.
> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>
Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mistaken
FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
occasionally (I am running X but I compile all packages with poudriere).
---
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Subject: Re: dependency explosions
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Grzegorz Junka wrote on 10/03/2016 15:11:
>
> On 03/10/2016 12:14, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
>> make config.
>>
>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>>> as a dependency, as
>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>>> and whistles.
>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>
>
> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mistaken
> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
> occasionally (I am running X but I compile all packages with poudriere).
I agree. Many ports have X and -nox11 (like ImageMagick-nox11 or
open-vm-tools-nox11) but there are still some without nox11 variant.
But X11 is not the only one dependency problem.
I think that dependency changes should be better tracked and examined
before commit changes to ports tree.
Miroslav Lachman
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Le 03/10/2016 =C3=A0 14:31, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :
> On 10/02/2016 05:27 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> On 2 October 2016 at 14:44, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which h=
ave
>>> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LICENSE=
in
>>> those ports?
>> The other answers are correct. If the license is standard (listed
>> here: https://spdx.org/licenses/) we should add it to the main
>> database.
>>
>>> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each individual=
>>> file has its own license.
>> A "custom" license that merely states to check the distfiles should be=
>> sufficient.
> How about a meta port, whose dependencies all have different licenses?
> Something similar?
>
Meta ports don't install files, they are empty shells, so they do not
really have a license.
--=20
Mathieu Arnold
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Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mistaken
> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
> occasionally
I'd disagree with that. I don't know whether or not the majority of
FreeBSD installations are servers or personal computers but the chances
are that the majority of server installations will have relatively few
packages installed whereas most PC's are likely to make use of far
more packages and are also likely to be using X. Building from ports
to get the required options would be a much bigger task for these
installations than it would be for the servers.
--
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On 03/10/2016 14:11, Mike Clarke wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:11:43 +0000
> Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>
>> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mistaken
>> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
>> occasionally
> I'd disagree with that. I don't know whether or not the majority of
> FreeBSD installations are servers or personal computers but the chances
> are that the majority of server installations will have relatively few
> packages installed whereas most PC's are likely to make use of far
> more packages and are also likely to be using X. Building from ports
> to get the required options would be a much bigger task for these
> installations than it would be for the servers.
>
I have been wondering if it would be possible to have two distinct set
of packages compiled automatically, one tailored for X and one for the
console. It seems that requirements of both environment are quite
opposite. The server-side requires small amount of packages without X
because it wants to run the system headless, as long as possible and
without interruptions and restarts. Whereas the X/PC environment always
wants to have everything latest and newest. In the Linux world they
would just create a new distribution, even in the BSD world there is
PC-BSD/TrueOS. But we have ports and can re-use the same base for two
distinctive set of packages. I don't believe we can create pre-compiled
packages for FreeBSD in such a way, that both camps are happy (which
this thread is one of many signs of).
Grzegorz
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Le 03/10/2016 =C3=A0 16:29, Grzegorz Junka a =C3=A9crit :
>
> On 03/10/2016 14:11, Mike Clarke wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:11:43 +0000
>> Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not
>>> mistaken
>>> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
>>> occasionally
>> I'd disagree with that. I don't know whether or not the majority of
>> FreeBSD installations are servers or personal computers but the chance=
s
>> are that the majority of server installations will have relatively few=
>> packages installed whereas most PC's are likely to make use of far
>> more packages and are also likely to be using X. Building from ports
>> to get the required options would be a much bigger task for these
>> installations than it would be for the servers.
>>
>
> I have been wondering if it would be possible to have two distinct set
> of packages compiled automatically, one tailored for X and one for the
> console. It seems that requirements of both environment are quite
> opposite. The server-side requires small amount of packages without X
> because it wants to run the system headless, as long as possible and
> without interruptions and restarts. Whereas the X/PC environment
> always wants to have everything latest and newest. In the Linux world
> they would just create a new distribution, even in the BSD world there
> is PC-BSD/TrueOS. But we have ports and can re-use the same base for
> two distinctive set of packages. I don't believe we can create
> pre-compiled packages for FreeBSD in such a way, that both camps are
> happy (which this thread is one of many signs of).
The FreeBSD project cannot provide more than one set of packages. If we
went that way, we would end up having to provide, say, [with X, without
X]x[apache 2.2, apache 2.4]x[php56, php70]x[postgresql 9.3, 9.4, 9.5,
9.6]x[insert 5 flavors of mysql]x[openssl, libressl]... I'm sure I can
find other kind of options, and that is already 320 sets.
Right now, we build packages for
[9,10,11,12]x[amd64,i386]x[head,quarterly], that's 16 different sets,
and we mostly manage to build them over and over again, every two days.
Imagine how long it would take to build 320 sets.
--=20
Mathieu Arnold
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:29:27 +0000
Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
> On 03/10/2016 14:11, Mike Clarke wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:11:43 +0000
> > Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mistak=
en
> >> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
> >> occasionally
> > I'd disagree with that. I don't know whether or not the majority of
> > FreeBSD installations are servers or personal computers but the chances
> > are that the majority of server installations will have relatively few
> > packages installed whereas most PC's are likely to make use of far
> > more packages and are also likely to be using X. Building from ports
> > to get the required options would be a much bigger task for these
> > installations than it would be for the servers.
> >
>=20
> I have been wondering if it would be possible to have two distinct set=20
> of packages compiled automatically, one tailored for X and one for the=20
> console. It seems that requirements of both environment are quite=20
> opposite. The server-side requires small amount of packages without X=20
> because it wants to run the system headless, as long as possible and=20
> without interruptions and restarts. Whereas the X/PC environment always=20
> wants to have everything latest and newest. In the Linux world they=20
> would just create a new distribution, even in the BSD world there is=20
> PC-BSD/TrueOS. But we have ports and can re-use the same base for two=20
> distinctive set of packages. I don't believe we can create pre-compiled=20
> packages for FreeBSD in such a way, that both camps are happy (which=20
> this thread is one of many signs of).
>=20
> Grzegorz
That must be somehow possible and even extensible to be something like macp=
orts variants, except with binary package support (macports localy build pa=
ckages when user defined option differs from default); but this would take =
signifiant space and processing power...
On the other hand, setting OPTIONS_UNSET to include X11 is quite trivial. I=
would expect a server administrator to be more proficient in that kind of =
settings...
PS. I agree with the multiplication of dependencies, but I see them as the =
result of nowaday FOSS ecosystem practices rather than port management issu=
es.
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Matthieu Volat <mazhe@alkumuna.eu>
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Le 03/10/2016 =C3=A0 16:57, Matthieu Volat a =C3=A9crit :
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:29:27 +0000
> Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>
>> On 03/10/2016 14:11, Mike Clarke wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:11:43 +0000
>>> Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mist=
aken
>>>> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
>>>> occasionally
>>> I'd disagree with that. I don't know whether or not the majority of
>>> FreeBSD installations are servers or personal computers but the chanc=
es
>>> are that the majority of server installations will have relatively fe=
w
>>> packages installed whereas most PC's are likely to make use of far
>>> more packages and are also likely to be using X. Building from ports
>>> to get the required options would be a much bigger task for these
>>> installations than it would be for the servers.
>>>
>> I have been wondering if it would be possible to have two distinct set=
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>> of packages compiled automatically, one tailored for X and one for the=
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>> console. It seems that requirements of both environment are quite=20
>> opposite. The server-side requires small amount of packages without X =
>> because it wants to run the system headless, as long as possible and=20
>> without interruptions and restarts. Whereas the X/PC environment alway=
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>> wants to have everything latest and newest. In the Linux world they=20
>> would just create a new distribution, even in the BSD world there is=20
>> PC-BSD/TrueOS. But we have ports and can re-use the same base for two =
>> distinctive set of packages. I don't believe we can create pre-compile=
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>> packages for FreeBSD in such a way, that both camps are happy (which=20
>> this thread is one of many signs of).
>>
>> Grzegorz
> That must be somehow possible and even extensible to be something like =
macports variants
We have works in the pipes to do variants like package builds, yes, but
the work is currently stalled because it breaks every tools we have.
--=20
Mathieu Arnold
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On 03/10/2016 14:48, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 03/10/2016 à 16:29, Grzegorz Junka a écrit :
>> On 03/10/2016 14:11, Mike Clarke wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:11:43 +0000
>>> Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not
>>>> mistaken
>>>> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
>>>> occasionally
>>> I'd disagree with that. I don't know whether or not the majority of
>>> FreeBSD installations are servers or personal computers but the chances
>>> are that the majority of server installations will have relatively few
>>> packages installed whereas most PC's are likely to make use of far
>>> more packages and are also likely to be using X. Building from ports
>>> to get the required options would be a much bigger task for these
>>> installations than it would be for the servers.
>>>
>> I have been wondering if it would be possible to have two distinct set
>> of packages compiled automatically, one tailored for X and one for the
>> console. It seems that requirements of both environment are quite
>> opposite. The server-side requires small amount of packages without X
>> because it wants to run the system headless, as long as possible and
>> without interruptions and restarts. Whereas the X/PC environment
>> always wants to have everything latest and newest. In the Linux world
>> they would just create a new distribution, even in the BSD world there
>> is PC-BSD/TrueOS. But we have ports and can re-use the same base for
>> two distinctive set of packages. I don't believe we can create
>> pre-compiled packages for FreeBSD in such a way, that both camps are
>> happy (which this thread is one of many signs of).
> The FreeBSD project cannot provide more than one set of packages. If we
> went that way, we would end up having to provide, say, [with X, without
> X]x[apache 2.2, apache 2.4]x[php56, php70]x[postgresql 9.3, 9.4, 9.5,
> 9.6]x[insert 5 flavors of mysql]x[openssl, libressl]... I'm sure I can
> find other kind of options, and that is already 320 sets.
> Right now, we build packages for
> [9,10,11,12]x[amd64,i386]x[head,quarterly], that's 16 different sets,
> and we mostly manage to build them over and over again, every two days.
> Imagine how long it would take to build 320 sets.
>
You are trying to take that into extreme to ridicule this as an option.
You can't possibly build 320 sets, even if you had enough build
machines, because each set would need to contain incompatible packages.
If you choose, say, php56 as the default, then you can't possibly
install a package that depends on php70. The amount of combinations
would expand exponentially. It would be like having 320 different
incompatible sets of packages to test.
The same with packages that depend on X. Sure, if you install
emacs-nox11 you can still install other packages that depend on X, but
at some point it would start to break, e.g. you wouldn't be able to
install ImageMagick-nox11 and ImageMagick at the same time.
What I proposed is to have two sets of packages, one for server use
(noX, maybe other defaults) and one for desktop use (X, multimedia,
maybe other defaults). You usually don't switch a machine that's working
as a desktop workstation to suddenly become a rack server in some data
center.
Grzegorz
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Miroslav Lachman wrote on 10/03/2016 15:29:
> Grzegorz Junka wrote on 10/03/2016 15:11:
>>
>> On 03/10/2016 12:14, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
>>> make config.
>>>
>>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>>>> as a dependency, as
>>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>>>> and whistles.
>>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>>
>>
>> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mistaken
>> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
>> occasionally (I am running X but I compile all packages with poudriere).
>
> I agree. Many ports have X and -nox11 (like ImageMagick-nox11 or
> open-vm-tools-nox11) but there are still some without nox11 variant.
>
> But X11 is not the only one dependency problem.
> I think that dependency changes should be better tracked and examined
> before commit changes to ports tree.
I am really tired of it. Now I realized that another port is
unconditionally pulling hand full of new X11 dependecies which where not
used before ant this was just PORTREVISION bump. Not new version with
new functionality.
When this will stop?
# pkg info -r -d phantomjs-2.0.0_3
phantomjs-2.0.0_3
Depends on :
fontconfig-2.12.1,1
png-1.6.23
icu-55.1,1
freetype2-2.6.3
jpeg-turbo-1.4.2
# pkg inf -r -d phantomjs-2.0.0_5
phantomjs-2.0.0_5
Depends on :
fontconfig-2.12.1,1
png-1.6.23
libX11-1.6.3,1
freetype2-2.6.3
icu-57.1,1
jpeg-turbo-1.4.2
libX11 needs following packages
xproto-7.0.28
libXdmcp-1.1.2
libpthread-stubs-0.3_6
libXau-1.0.8_3
libxcb-1.11.1
kbproto-1.0.7
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Subject: FreeBSD Port: lang/phantomjs
From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
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Hi,
I noticed hand full of new dependencies after PORTREVISION bump to 4
because there is a new USE_XORG= x11
Is this really needed? Phantomjs worked for me for a long time without
any X11 libraries. We are always trying to keep our servers with minimum
ports installed. We have OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 GUI CUPS DOCS EXAMPLES NLS
but now we have 7 X11 libs installed on each machine just because of
USE_XORG in Phantomjs.
Is there a way to avoid this pollution?
Kind regards
Miroslav Lachman
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On Monday, 3 October 2016 at 14:14:13 +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 01/10/2016 =C3=A0 04:35, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming
>> in as a dependency, as there is an increasing tendency to configure
>> things with all the bells and whistles.
>
> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I recently installed a new
version of firefox, and I was amazed by the number and nature of the
dependencies. It totalled 497 MB, including:
Fetching chromium-52.0.2743.116_1.txz: .......... done
Fetching opera-12.16_6.txz: .......... done
Fetching apache-openoffice-4.1.2_9.txz: .......... done
Fetching libreoffice-5.0.6_3.txz: .......... done
Fetching gimp-2.8.18,2.txz: . done
Fetching hugin-2016.2.0.txz: .......... done
Fetching mplayer-1.3.0.20160912_1.txz: .......... done
Fetching samba42-4.2.14.txz: .......... done
Fetching emacs24-24.5_3,3.txz: .......... done
Chromium? Opera? Emacs? Both OpenOffice and LibreOffice?
I don't know if this always happens, but there's an issue here. I
have a few unfinished thoughts about how it could occur, but so far
all I can confirm is that there is an issue.
Is there a way to display these dependencies in a tree structure?
Greg
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On 10/03/16 19:21, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Monday, 3 October 2016 at 14:14:13 +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming
>>> in as a dependency, as there is an increasing tendency to configure
>>> things with all the bells and whistles.
>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
> Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I recently installed a new
> version of firefox, and I was amazed by the number and nature of the
> dependencies. It totalled 497 MB, including:
>
> Fetching chromium-52.0.2743.116_1.txz: .......... done
> Fetching opera-12.16_6.txz: .......... done
> Fetching apache-openoffice-4.1.2_9.txz: .......... done
> Fetching libreoffice-5.0.6_3.txz: .......... done
> Fetching gimp-2.8.18,2.txz: . done
> Fetching hugin-2016.2.0.txz: .......... done
> Fetching mplayer-1.3.0.20160912_1.txz: .......... done
> Fetching samba42-4.2.14.txz: .......... done
> Fetching emacs24-24.5_3,3.txz: .......... done
>
> Chromium? Opera? Emacs? Both OpenOffice and LibreOffice?
>
> I don't know if this always happens, but there's an issue here. I
> have a few unfinished thoughts about how it could occur, but so far
> all I can confirm is that there is an issue.
>
> Is there a way to display these dependencies in a tree structure?
>
> Greg
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$ make -C /usr/ports/www/firefox all-depends-list
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/usr/ports/devel/gmake
/usr/ports/devel/gettext-tools
/usr/ports/converters/libiconv
/usr/ports/devel/gettext-runtime
/usr/ports/print/indexinfo
/usr/ports/security/nss
/usr/ports/archivers/zip
/usr/ports/databases/sqlite3
/usr/ports/devel/ncurses
/usr/ports/devel/pkgconf
/usr/ports/devel/binutils
/usr/ports/math/gmp
/usr/ports/math/mpfr
/usr/ports/devel/bison
/usr/ports/devel/m4
/usr/ports/lang/perl5.20
/usr/ports/devel/libevent2
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf
/usr/ports/misc/help2man
/usr/ports/devel/p5-Locale-gettext
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf-wrapper
/usr/ports/devel/automake
/usr/ports/devel/automake-wrapper
/usr/ports/devel/libtool
/usr/ports/audio/soundtouch
/usr/ports/print/harfbuzz
/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection
/usr/ports/graphics/cairo
/usr/ports/x11/xcb-util-renderutil
/usr/ports/devel/xorg-macros
/usr/ports/x11/libxcb
/usr/ports/devel/libcheck
/usr/ports/x11/xcb-proto
/usr/ports/lang/python27
/usr/ports/devel/libffi
/usr/ports/misc/dejagnu
/usr/ports/lang/expect
/usr/ports/lang/tcl86
/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2
/usr/ports/devel/libpthread-stubs
/usr/ports/textproc/libxslt
/usr/ports/security/libgcrypt
/usr/ports/security/libgpg-error
/usr/ports/x11/libXau
/usr/ports/x11/xproto
/usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp
/usr/ports/x11/xcb-util
/usr/ports/graphics/libGL
/usr/ports/devel/makedepend
/usr/ports/devel/libclc
/usr/ports/devel/llvm37
/usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx
/usr/ports/devel/py-Jinja2
/usr/ports/devel/py-setuptools27
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/usr/ports/devel/jam
/usr/ports/x11/libXScrnSaver
/usr/ports/x11/scrnsaverproto
/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit
/usr/ports/lang/spidermonkey170
/usr/ports/graphics/lcms2
/usr/ports/print/cups
/usr/ports/net/avahi-app
/usr/ports/devel/libdaemon
/usr/ports/devel/dbus-glib
/usr/ports/databases/gdbm
/usr/ports/security/gnutls
/usr/ports/security/nettle
/usr/ports/security/libtasn1
/usr/ports/dns/libidn
/usr/ports/security/p11-kit
/usr/ports/security/trousers
/usr/ports/emulators/tpm-emulator
/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme
/usr/ports/devel/libnotify
/usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio
/usr/ports/audio/libsndfile
/usr/ports/audio/flac
/usr/ports/audio/speexdsp
/usr/ports/math/fftw3
/usr/ports/math/fftw3-float
/usr/ports/devel/orc
/usr/ports/devel/json-c
/usr/ports/devel/libltdl
/usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit
/usr/ports/lang/rust
/usr/ports/devel/desktop-file-utils
/usr/ports/multimedia/libv4l
/usr/ports/textproc/hunspell
/usr/ports/x11/startup-notification
/usr/ports/audio/alsa-lib
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20
/usr/ports/lang/python
/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg
/usr/ports/textproc/texi2html
/usr/ports/graphics/frei0r
/usr/ports/devel/sdl12
/usr/ports/graphics/aalib
/usr/ports/graphics/libGLU
/usr/ports/graphics/opencv-core
/usr/ports/math/eigen3
/usr/ports/multimedia/schroedinger
/usr/ports/multimedia/libtheora
/usr/ports/multimedia/libva
/usr/ports/multimedia/libvdpau
/usr/ports/multimedia/libx264
/usr/ports/devel/opencl
/usr/ports/multimedia/xvid
/usr/ports/audio/alsa-plugins
Firefox needs git? from the above list... /usr/ports/devel/git
http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/xsoft/firefox.html
Firefox Dependencies
Required
alsa-lib-1.1.2
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/multimedia/alsa-lib.html>,
Autoconf-2.13
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/autoconf213.html>,
GTK+-3.20.9 <http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/x/gtk3.html>
(or GTK+-2.24.30
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/x/gtk2.html> if you change
the mozconfig where indicated), NSS-3.26
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/postlfs/nss.html>,
UnZip-6.0
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/unzip.html>,
yasm-1.3.0
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/yasm.html>, and
Zip-3.0 <http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/zip.html>
Recommended
ICU-57.1
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/icu.html>,
libevent-2.0.22
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/basicnet/libevent.html>,
libvpx-1.6.0
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/multimedia/libvpx.html>,
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/server/sqlite.html>
[Note]
Note
If you don't install recommended dependencies, then internal copies of
those packages will be used. They might be tested to work, but they can
be out of date or contain security holes.
[Note]
Note
With Firefox-31.0 and later versions, you must have installed Openssl
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including "ImportError: cannot import name HTTPSHandler". If you are in
any doubt about this (e.g. upgrading from an older version of Firefox),
check if |/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/_ssl.so| exists. If it does
not, reinstall Python-2.7.12
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/python2.html>
(after installing OpenSSL-1.0.2h
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/postlfs/openssl.html>).
The latest version of any /currently maintained/ version of Openssl
should be satisfactory if already installed.
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cURL-7.50.1
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/basicnet/curl.html>,
dbus-glib-0.106
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/dbus-glib.html>,
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/doxygen.html>,
GConf-3.2.6
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/gnome/GConf.html>,
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/multimedia/ffmpeg.html>
(runtime), libwebp-0.5.1
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/libwebp.html>,
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/openjdk.html>,
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/multimedia/pulseaudio.html>,
startup-notification-0.12
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/x/startup-notification.html>,
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/valgrind.html>,
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/basicnet/wget.html>,
Wireless Tools-29
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/basicnet/wireless_tools.html>,
Hunspell <https://hunspell.github.io/>, liboauth
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/liboauth/files/>, and libproxy
<https://github.com/libproxy/libproxy>, Rust
<https://www.rust-lang.org/>, and (with the patch) Graphite2-1.3.8
<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/graphite2.html>
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<http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/general/harfbuzz.html>
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On Monday, 3 October 2016 at 20:41:08 -0400, Baho Utot wrote:
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> On 10/03/16 19:21, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday, 3 October 2016 at 14:14:13 +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>> Le 01/10/2016 =C3 04:35, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
>>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming
>>>> in as a dependency, as there is an increasing tendency to configure
>>>> things with all the bells and whistles.
>>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>> Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I recently installed a new
>> version of firefox, and I was amazed by the number and nature of the
>> dependencies. It totalled 497 MB, including:
>>
>> Fetching chromium-52.0.2743.116_1.txz: .......... done
>> Fetching opera-12.16_6.txz: .......... done
>> Fetching apache-openoffice-4.1.2_9.txz: .......... done
>> Fetching libreoffice-5.0.6_3.txz: .......... done
>> Fetching gimp-2.8.18,2.txz: . done
>> Fetching hugin-2016.2.0.txz: .......... done
>> Fetching mplayer-1.3.0.20160912_1.txz: .......... done
>> Fetching samba42-4.2.14.txz: .......... done
>> Fetching emacs24-24.5_3,3.txz: .......... done
>>
>> Chromium? Opera? Emacs? Both OpenOffice and LibreOffice?
>>
>> I don't know if this always happens, but there's an issue here. I
>> have a few unfinished thoughts about how it could occur, but so far
>> all I can confirm is that there is an issue.
>>
>> Is there a way to display these dependencies in a tree structure?
>
> $ make -C /usr/ports/www/firefox all-depends-list
> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg
> /usr/ports/devel/nspr
> /usr/ports/devel/gmake
> ...
That isn't a tree. It also doesn't show the dependencies I mentioned
above. And yes, I ran it locally. On reflection, it's probably
because firefox requires an update to a library used by other
packages, so they need to be upgraded too.
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> Chromium? Opera? Emacs? Both OpenOffice and LibreOffice?
>
> I don't know if this always happens, but there's an issue here. I
> have a few unfinished thoughts about how it could occur, but so far
> all I can confirm is that there is an issue.
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> Is there a way to display these dependencies in a tree structure?
You can use ports-mgmt/pkg_tree
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>>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>>> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which ha=
ve
>>>> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LICENSE =
in
>>>> those ports?
>>>
>>> The other answers are correct. If the license is standard (listed
>>> here: https://spdx.org/licenses/) we should add it to the main
>>> database.
>>>
>>>> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each individual
>>>> file has its own license.
>>>
>>> A "custom" license that merely states to check the distfiles should be
>>> sufficient.
>>
>> How about a meta port, whose dependencies all have different licenses?
>> Something similar?
>=20
> meta-ports shouldn't define a license at all. I'm not sure we have a
> way to shut the warnings up though.
Could we use USES=3Dmetaport to suppress these messages?=
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On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
> make config.
but you can never really know the effect.
there should be a use minimum environment variable and as I said, the
minimum is usually what is required for build dependencies.
And the minimum install may require less "other" packages thus
reducing the explosion.
>
>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>> as a dependency, as
>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>> and whistles.
> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>
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After some surgery, math/R is in more manageable shape. But, the surgery broke two slave ports, math/libR and math/libRmath. They have each been marked broken since June or July and I posted to ports@ about deleting them, but didn't get a response.
math/libRmath
I'm not sure how widely used math/libRmath is today, but it's still described in R's main installation document (https://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/r-release/R-admin.html#The-standalone-Rmath-library). It *should* be straightforward to just incorporate math/libRmath's four files into math/R and then delete math/libRmath. The directory for libRmath is under WRKSRC, but it's not included in the main Makefile, so I'd have to either patch the main Makefile or do something with post-build and post-install. Is this palatable?
---
post-build:
${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_CMD} -C ${WRKSRC}/src/nmath/standalone
post-install
.for f in libRmath.a libRmath.so libRmath.so.${RMATH_SOVERSION}
${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/src/nmath/standalone/${f} ${STAGEDIR}/lib/
.endfor
${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/src/nmath/standalone/Rmath.h ${STAGEDIR}/include/
---
math/libR
Right now, unlike upstream, math/R's shared library option is turned on by default. This was done only in late June because a dependency, math/rkward-kde4, required it. Upstream turns it off, for the reasons described in [1]. I'm inclined to remove the libR option from math/R's OPTIONS_DEFAULT and resurrect math/libR (or maybe math/R-libR by using PKGNAMESUFFIX) as a very simple slave port that just installs math/R with that option on. math/rkward-kde4 could then depend on math/libR. One issue is that, I believe, R's installed packages (packages installed from within R) and many of R's dependencies would have to be rebuilt after turning off the libR option.
Opinions?
Joseph
[1] "--enable-R-shlib causes the make process to build R as a dynamic (shared) library, typically called libR.so, and link the main R executable R.bin against that library. This can only be done if all the code (including system libraries) can be compiled into a dynamic library, and there may be a performance [47] penalty. So you probably only want this if you will be using an application which embeds R. Note that C code in packages installed on an R system linked with --enable-R-shlib is linked against the dynamic library and so such packages cannot be used from an R system built in the default way. Also, because packages are linked against R they are on some OSes also linked against the dynamic libraries R itself is linked against, and this can lead to symbol conflicts."
[47] We have measured 15-20% on i686 Linux and around 10% on x86_64 Linux.
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On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
> Assuming the binary upgrade from 9.3 to 10.3 is "clean" i.e. it won't
> clobber any of my local stuff (this is my only FreeBSD server), what will
> happen to the ports area? Left alone, saved, or overwritten with/without
> any local chnages?
>
> --
> Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will
> suffer."
>
The ports will not be touched, but some will not run on 10.3 because of ABI
changes in some shareable libraries. Most of the base system uses versioned
symbols, so will work fine, but some, usually contributed code, don't.
Ports that use them will need to be re-installed/rebuilt.
It is recommended that, when moving between major versions, all ports be
re-installed, but most won't need it. The tricky part is finding those that
need rebuilding. While mixing ports and packages is nto generally
recommended, I would upgrade all ports that have default configurations be
re-installed from packages. Those that have custom configurations will, of
course need to be re-built.
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Hi!
> > Right now, we build packages for
> > [9,10,11,12]x[amd64,i386]x[head,quarterly], that's 16 different sets,
> > and we mostly manage to build them over and over again, every two days.
> > Imagine how long it would take to build 320 sets.
> You are trying to take that into extreme to ridicule this as an option.
I think the scenario that "if we had variants, other users would
request other variants" is likely and the number of sets to build
really would explode like that. It's not to ridicule that option.
The problem is to add code to allow variants is complex and needs
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On 04/10/2016 05:09, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> Hi!
>
>>> Right now, we build packages for
>>> [9,10,11,12]x[amd64,i386]x[head,quarterly], that's 16 different sets,
>>> and we mostly manage to build them over and over again, every two days.
>>> Imagine how long it would take to build 320 sets.
>> You are trying to take that into extreme to ridicule this as an option.
> I think the scenario that "if we had variants, other users would
> request other variants" is likely and the number of sets to build
> really would explode like that. It's not to ridicule that option.
>
> The problem is to add code to allow variants is complex and needs
> engineering power.
>
OK, as I mentioned, I was wondering if that would be possible. So,
apparently, it would, but would require changes in the code. Forget
about other variants that users may want to propose - if they want other
variants then they can take it on and maintain. But regarding the
changes that would be required to only allow other variants, why do you
say it would be complex? Wouldn't that be only a change in pkg so that
it can handle dependencies per set properly?
Grzegorz
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Hi!
> > The problem is to add code to allow variants is complex and needs
> > engineering power.
> But regarding the
> changes that would be required to only allow other variants, why do you
> say it would be complex? Wouldn't that be only a change in pkg so that
> it can handle dependencies per set properly?
It's my gut feeling, nothing more. I have not looked at the code
of pkg or the ports framework. It's only that I'm playing around
with dependency trees for the last quarter of a century, that's
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2016-10-04 4:59 GMT+02:00 Joseph Mingrone <jrm@freebsd.org>:
> After some surgery, math/R is in more manageable shape. But, the surgery
> broke two slave ports, math/libR and math/libRmath. They have each been
> marked broken since June or July and I posted to ports@ about deleting
> them, but didn't get a response.
>
>
This is great work indeed. The huge Makefile was a pain to work with,
mainly because of the slave ports, so this is greatly appreciated.
> math/libRmath
> I'm not sure how widely used math/libRmath is today, but it's still
> described in R's main installation document (https://cran.r-project.org/
> doc/manuals/r-release/R-admin.html#The-standalone-Rmath-library). It
> *should* be straightforward to just incorporate math/libRmath's four files
> into math/R and then delete math/libRmath. The directory for libRmath is
> under WRKSRC, but it's not included in the main Makefile, so I'd have to
> either patch the main Makefile or do something with post-build and
> post-install. Is this palatable?
>
> ---
> post-build:
> ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_CMD} -C ${WRKSRC}/src/nmath/standalone
>
> post-install
> .for f in libRmath.a libRmath.so libRmath.so.${RMATH_SOVERSION}
> ${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/src/nmath/standalone/${f}
> ${STAGEDIR}/lib/
> .endfor
> ${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/src/nmath/standalone/Rmath.h
> ${STAGEDIR}/include/
> ---
>
>
I would be very surprised (though it cannot be excluded) to see C programs
using libRmath. There are some questions on StackOverflow about developing
and distributing libRmath, so this cannot be 100% excluded [2]. The de
facto standard for R/C++ interoperability is Rcpp [1]. I am not sure
whether Rcpp can be built standalone, but it being an R package, I suspect
it needs a full R installation. Its main use is for R to include C++ code,
no the other way around.
All in all, I don't see much use for a standalone libRmath, but it cannot
be excluded. The truth being told, I would expect newer scientific software
coming from python+scipy+numpy rather than from R embedded in C/C++.
math/libR
> Right now, unlike upstream, math/R's shared library option is turned on by
> default. This was done only in late June because a dependency,
> math/rkward-kde4, required it. Upstream turns it off, for the reasons
> described in [1]. I'm inclined to remove the libR option from math/R's
> OPTIONS_DEFAULT and resurrect math/libR (or maybe math/R-libR by using
> PKGNAMESUFFIX) as a very simple slave port that just installs math/R with
> that option on. math/rkward-kde4 could then depend on math/libR. One
> issue is that, I believe, R's installed packages (packages installed from
> within R) and many of R's dependencies would have to be rebuilt after
> turning off the libR option.
>
>
I have done some little benchmarking myself with and without dynamic libR
and have not seen any noticeable differences in performance (though I have
left it off to be safe), but don't take this as conclusive, more testing
should be done. Packages certainly do need to be rebuilt after switching
from dynamic libR to static. I can't tell what happens the other way
around. Ports-installed packages could be automatically recompiled, but
recompiling user-installed packages is a different story.
I think having two separate installations, whose packages would be mutually
exclusive is too dangerous and too easy for the user to mess up. I can
perform some more extensive benchmarks and see if having it enabled by
default really hurts.
In my opinion, performancewise I would only leave LTO and OPENMP as default
options. Even long double is not guaranteed to provide better precision
than double and it is very possible (per theory and per experience) that it
hinders performance [3].
Kind regards,
Fernando
[1] http://gallery.rcpp.org/articles/r-function-from-c++/
[2]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5393257/including-r-standalone-library-in-a-c-source-tree
[3] http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/beginner/34088/#msg183895
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Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 03:58, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :
> On 10/03/2016 07:34 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> On 3 October 2016 at 05:31, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>> On 10/02/2016 05:27 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>>> On 2 October 2016 at 14:44, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>>>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>>>> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which=
have
>>>>> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LICEN=
SE in
>>>>> those ports?
>>>> The other answers are correct. If the license is standard (listed
>>>> here: https://spdx.org/licenses/) we should add it to the main
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>>> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each individu=
al
>>>>> file has its own license.
>>>> A "custom" license that merely states to check the distfiles should =
be
>>>> sufficient.
>>> How about a meta port, whose dependencies all have different licenses=
?
>>> Something similar?
>> meta-ports shouldn't define a license at all. I'm not sure we have a
>> way to shut the warnings up though.
> Could we use USES=3Dmetaport to suppress these messages?
Suppress what messages ?
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On 4 October 2016 at 00:25, Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 03:58, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :
>> On 10/03/2016 07:34 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>> On 3 October 2016 at 05:31, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>>> On 10/02/2016 05:27 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>>>> On 2 October 2016 at 14:44, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>>>>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, which =
have
>>>>>> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LICENS=
E in
>>>>>> those ports?
>>>>> The other answers are correct. If the license is standard (listed
>>>>> here: https://spdx.org/licenses/) we should add it to the main
>>>>> database.
>>>>>
>>>>>> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each individua=
l
>>>>>> file has its own license.
>>>>> A "custom" license that merely states to check the distfiles should b=
e
>>>>> sufficient.
>>>> How about a meta port, whose dependencies all have different licenses?
>>>> Something similar?
>>> meta-ports shouldn't define a license at all. I'm not sure we have a
>>> way to shut the warnings up though.
>> Could we use USES=3Dmetaport to suppress these messages?
>
> Suppress what messages ?
115 .if defined(LICENSE)
119 .else
120 DEV_WARNING+=3D "Please set LICENSE for this port"
121 .endif
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For many moons now, I've been seeing messages like the following, but
emitted by many programs, not just by cmake. I've indented all example
message lines below by ">".
>cmake: environment corrupt; missing value for QT_IM_MO
I don't know what causes them or how to get rid of them.
I've also seen many ports fail to build with sequences of messages like
the ones below, which always involve ccache.
>CMake Error at /usr/local/share/cmake/Modules/CMakeSystemSpecificInformation.cmake:36 (include):
> include called with wrong number of arguments. include() only takes one
> file.
>Call Stack (most recent call first):
> CMakeLists.txt:68 (project)
>
>
>System is unknown to cmake, create:
>Platform/sh: environment corrupt; missing value for QT_IM_MO
>FreeBSD to use this system, please send your config file to cmake@www.cmake.org so it can be added to cmake
Another common type of message sequences looks like this.
>-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/local/libexec/ccache/c++ -- broken
>CMake Error at /usr/local/share/cmake/Modules/CMakeTestCXXCompiler.cmake:54 (message):
> The C++ compiler "/usr/local/libexec/ccache/c++" is not able to compile a
> simple test program.
>
> It fails with the following output:
>
>
>
>
>
> CMake will not be able to correctly generate this project.
>Call Stack (most recent call first):
> CMakeLists.txt:68 (project)
>
Over time, messages like the kinds shown above have led to the
need to use many "-x" options on a "portmaster -a" command. If someone
could feed me a clue or three as to how to correct whatever these
programs are complaining about and how to fix the problem(s), I would be
grateful. Thanks much in advance to anyone with helpful suggestions.
Meanwhile I suppose I should see about restoring the earlier version
of graphics/opencv{,-core} from before they were renamed and broken. Sigh.
Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
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Hi
make clean fails to clean autoconf and automake.
If a port uses autoconf and autoconf isn't installed on the system, it
will be build and installed.
if you run make clean after installing the port, every dependency is
cleaned as well but not autoconf.
This should be not a problem (besides waste of discspace).
We do a pkg autoremove after installing to remove all packages that are
only build dependencies.
So the autoconf package will be removed.
Than later (days, weeks) you install another port that uses autoconf
the build brakes because autoconf is not found.
The problem is that in the autoconf ports dir everything says that
autoconf is already installed and make install does return without doing
anything an without failure (as expected).
A make clean in the autoconf dir does fix the porblem.
So why doesn't make clean of a port that uses autoconf don't do a make
clean in the autoconf port.
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> make clean fails to clean autoconf and automake.
>
> If a port uses autoconf and autoconf isn't installed on the system, it
> will be build and installed.
>
> if you run make clean after installing the port, every dependency is
> cleaned as well but not autoconf.
Can you give an example of such a port, because we have two mechanisms
that can pull in autoconf.
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Am 04.10.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Tijl Coosemans:
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:52:23 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@ze.tum.de> w=
rote:
>> make clean fails to clean autoconf and automake.
>>
>> If a port uses autoconf and autoconf isn't installed on the system, it=
>> will be build and installed.
>>
>> if you run make clean after installing the port, every dependency is
>> cleaned as well but not autoconf.
>=20
> Can you give an example of such a port, because we have two mechanisms
> that can pull in autoconf.
It's seams to be quite a complex problem.
To find out which ports causes this problem tried to build lang/php56
which uses autoconf. But when I do a make clean autoconf is cleaned as
well.
[root@etustar /usr/ports/lang/php56]# make clean
=3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for autoconf-2.69_1
=3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for php56-5.6.25_1
But it also installs help2man, gmake, p5-Locale-gettext-1.06 and
autoconf-wrapper-20131203 and these are not cleaned.
The transcript is attached as typescript_clean
now do a pkg autoremove which removes autoconf and the missed ports form
the system.
now try again to compile php56 and it fails
the transcript is attached as typescript_unclean
It seams that dependencies of dependencies are not clean. It seams that
autoconf was only the most memorable one.
Regards
Estartu
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Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 09:29, Eitan Adler a =C3=A9crit :
> On 4 October 2016 at 00:25, Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 03:58, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :
>>> On 10/03/2016 07:34 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>>> On 3 October 2016 at 05:31, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>>>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/02/2016 05:27 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>>>>> On 2 October 2016 at 14:44, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
>>>>>> <stephen@missouri.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> So I have a couple of ports, science/cdf and graphics/opendx, whi=
ch have
>>>>>>> licenses I can't find in Mk/bsd.licenses.db.mk. How do I set LIC=
ENSE in
>>>>>>> those ports?
>>>>>> The other answers are correct. If the license is standard (listed
>>>>>> here: https://spdx.org/licenses/) we should add it to the main
>>>>>> database.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An even tougher one is math/octave-forge-optim, where each indivi=
dual
>>>>>>> file has its own license.
>>>>>> A "custom" license that merely states to check the distfiles shoul=
d be
>>>>>> sufficient.
>>>>> How about a meta port, whose dependencies all have different licens=
es?
>>>>> Something similar?
>>>> meta-ports shouldn't define a license at all. I'm not sure we have a=
>>>> way to shut the warnings up though.
>>> Could we use USES=3Dmetaport to suppress these messages?
>> Suppress what messages ?
> 115 .if defined(LICENSE)
> 119 .else
> 120 DEV_WARNING+=3D "Please set LICENSE for this port"
> 121 .endif
Mmmm, this is a warning, not an error, it tells you "dude, maybe you
need to do this".
I don't see a good reason to complicate the logic more.
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> Am 04.10.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Tijl Coosemans:
>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:52:23 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@ze.tum.de> wrote:
>>> make clean fails to clean autoconf and automake.
>>>
>>> If a port uses autoconf and autoconf isn't installed on the system, it
>>> will be build and installed.
>>>
>>> if you run make clean after installing the port, every dependency is
>>> cleaned as well but not autoconf.
>>
>> Can you give an example of such a port, because we have two mechanisms
>> that can pull in autoconf.
>
> It's seams to be quite a complex problem.
>
> To find out which ports causes this problem tried to build lang/php56
> which uses autoconf. But when I do a make clean autoconf is cleaned as
> well.
>
> [root@etustar /usr/ports/lang/php56]# make clean
> ===> Cleaning for autoconf-2.69_1
> ===> Cleaning for php56-5.6.25_1
>
> But it also installs help2man, gmake, p5-Locale-gettext-1.06 and
> autoconf-wrapper-20131203 and these are not cleaned.
>
> The transcript is attached as typescript_clean
>
> now do a pkg autoremove which removes autoconf and the missed ports form
> the system.
>
> now try again to compile php56 and it fails
>
> the transcript is attached as typescript_unclean
>
> It seams that dependencies of dependencies are not clean. It seams that
> autoconf was only the most memorable one.
This seems to be intended. Make clean runs make limited-clean-depends
which cleans direct dependencies only. If you want to do full recursive
clean you have to run make clean-depends.
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On 10/04/2016 06:47 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 09:29, Eitan Adler a =C3=A9crit :
>> On 4 October 2016 at 00:25, Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 03:58, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :
>>>> Could we use USES=3Dmetaport to suppress these messages?
>>> Suppress what messages ?
>> 115 .if defined(LICENSE)
>> 119 .else
>> 120 DEV_WARNING+=3D "Please set LICENSE for this port"
>> 121 .endif
>=20
> Mmmm, this is a warning, not an error, it tells you "dude, maybe you
> need to do this".
> I don't see a good reason to complicate the logic more.
>=20
Because naive port maintainers like myself might think they should add a
LICENSE to any metaport they happen to own.
One of the issues I have with LICENSE is that I don't see anything about
it in the porters handbook. Otherwise that would be an excellent place
to tell maintainers of metaports not to license them.
Also the tone is quite commanding. If it said "Consider setting LICENSE
for this port", that would be more acceptable. Really, I think it
should say "Please set LICENSE for this port, unless this is a metaport".=
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Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 14:03, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :
> On 10/04/2016 06:47 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 09:29, Eitan Adler a =C3=A9crit :
>>> On 4 October 2016 at 00:25, Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>> Le 04/10/2016 =C3=A0 03:58, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =C3=A9crit :=
>>>>> Could we use USES=3Dmetaport to suppress these messages?
>>>> Suppress what messages ?
>>> 115 .if defined(LICENSE)
>>> 119 .else
>>> 120 DEV_WARNING+=3D "Please set LICENSE for this port"
>>> 121 .endif
>> Mmmm, this is a warning, not an error, it tells you "dude, maybe you
>> need to do this".
>> I don't see a good reason to complicate the logic more.
>>
> Because naive port maintainers like myself might think they should add =
a
> LICENSE to any metaport they happen to own.
>
> One of the issues I have with LICENSE is that I don't see anything abou=
t
> it in the porters handbook. Otherwise that would be an excellent place=
> to tell maintainers of metaports not to license them.
Nobody stepped up to write a LICENSE section. I started writing
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D56 but it is crappy.
> Also the tone is quite commanding. If it said "Consider setting LICENS=
E
> for this port", that would be more acceptable. Really, I think it
> should say "Please set LICENSE for this port, unless this is a metaport=
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Feel free to make the message better, it is in Mk/bsd.sanity.mk.
--=20
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>> Am 04.10.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Tijl Coosemans:
>>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:52:23 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@ze.tum.de>=
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>>>> make clean fails to clean autoconf and automake.
>>>>
>>>> If a port uses autoconf and autoconf isn't installed on the system, =
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>>>> will be build and installed.
>>>>
>>>> if you run make clean after installing the port, every dependency is=
>>>> cleaned as well but not autoconf. =20
>>>
>>> Can you give an example of such a port, because we have two mechanism=
s
>>> that can pull in autoconf. =20
>>
>> It's seams to be quite a complex problem.
>>
>> To find out which ports causes this problem tried to build lang/php56
>> which uses autoconf. But when I do a make clean autoconf is cleaned as=
>> well.
>>
>> [root@etustar /usr/ports/lang/php56]# make clean
>> =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for autoconf-2.69_1
>> =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for php56-5.6.25_1 =20
>>
>> But it also installs help2man, gmake, p5-Locale-gettext-1.06 and
>> autoconf-wrapper-20131203 and these are not cleaned.
>>
>> The transcript is attached as typescript_clean
>>
>> now do a pkg autoremove which removes autoconf and the missed ports fo=
rm
>> the system.
>>
>> now try again to compile php56 and it fails
>>
>> the transcript is attached as typescript_unclean
>>
>> It seams that dependencies of dependencies are not clean. It seams tha=
t
>> autoconf was only the most memorable one.
>=20
> This seems to be intended. Make clean runs make limited-clean-depends
> which cleans direct dependencies only. If you want to do full recursiv=
e
> clean you have to run make clean-depends.
>=20
I use FreeBSD since FreeBSD 2.2.5. When did this change in semantics
happen? Why do the first layer. This is something nobody can understand.
Either make clean should only clean the actual port. So everybody sees
that dependencies are not cleaned (maybe a message "You should run make
clean-depens to clean dependencies as well" should be printed if
dependencies are touched) or do it right and clean all touched.
make clean-depends doesn't take that much more time than make clean, so
why the change?
Regards
Estartu
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Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> Le 04/10/2016 =E0 14:03, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =E9crit :
> > On 10/04/2016 06:47 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: =20
> >> Le 04/10/2016 =E0 09:29, Eitan Adler a =E9crit : =20
> >>> On 4 October 2016 at 00:25, Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>
> >>> wrote: =20
> >>>> Le 04/10/2016 =E0 03:58, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a =E9crit : =20
> >>>>> Could we use USES=3Dmetaport to suppress these messages? =20
> >>>> Suppress what messages ? =20
> >>> 115 .if defined(LICENSE)
> >>> 119 .else
> >>> 120 DEV_WARNING+=3D "Please set LICENSE for this port"
> >>> 121 .endif =20
> >> Mmmm, this is a warning, not an error, it tells you "dude, maybe
> >> you need to do this".
> >> I don't see a good reason to complicate the logic more.
> >> =20
> > Because naive port maintainers like myself might think they should
> > add a LICENSE to any metaport they happen to own.
> >
> > One of the issues I have with LICENSE is that I don't see anything
> > about it in the porters handbook. Otherwise that would be an
> > excellent place to tell maintainers of metaports not to license
> > them. =20
>=20
> Nobody stepped up to write a LICENSE section. I started writing
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D56 but it is crappy.
>=20
> > Also the tone is quite commanding. If it said "Consider setting
> > LICENSE for this port", that would be more acceptable. Really, I
> > think it should say "Please set LICENSE for this port, unless this
> > is a metaport". =20
>=20
> Feel free to make the message better, it is in Mk/bsd.sanity.mk.
I believe portlint uses 'Consider'. On the other hand, I had a new port
and the committer insisted I had LICENSE in there.
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> Am 04.10.2016 um 14:03 schrieb Tijl Coosemans:
>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:36:29 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@ze.tum.de> wrote:
>>> Am 04.10.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Tijl Coosemans:
>>>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:52:23 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@ze.tum.de> wrote:
>>>>> make clean fails to clean autoconf and automake.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a port uses autoconf and autoconf isn't installed on the system, it
>>>>> will be build and installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> if you run make clean after installing the port, every dependency is
>>>>> cleaned as well but not autoconf.
>>>>
>>>> Can you give an example of such a port, because we have two mechanisms
>>>> that can pull in autoconf.
>>>
>>> It's seams to be quite a complex problem.
>>>
>>> To find out which ports causes this problem tried to build lang/php56
>>> which uses autoconf. But when I do a make clean autoconf is cleaned as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> [root@etustar /usr/ports/lang/php56]# make clean
>>> ===> Cleaning for autoconf-2.69_1
>>> ===> Cleaning for php56-5.6.25_1
>>>
>>> But it also installs help2man, gmake, p5-Locale-gettext-1.06 and
>>> autoconf-wrapper-20131203 and these are not cleaned.
>>>
>>> The transcript is attached as typescript_clean
>>>
>>> now do a pkg autoremove which removes autoconf and the missed ports form
>>> the system.
>>>
>>> now try again to compile php56 and it fails
>>>
>>> the transcript is attached as typescript_unclean
>>>
>>> It seams that dependencies of dependencies are not clean. It seams that
>>> autoconf was only the most memorable one.
>>
>> This seems to be intended. Make clean runs make limited-clean-depends
>> which cleans direct dependencies only. If you want to do full recursive
>> clean you have to run make clean-depends.
>
> I use FreeBSD since FreeBSD 2.2.5. When did this change in semantics
> happen? Why do the first layer. This is something nobody can understand.
> Either make clean should only clean the actual port. So everybody sees
> that dependencies are not cleaned (maybe a message "You should run make
> clean-depens to clean dependencies as well" should be printed if
> dependencies are touched) or do it right and clean all touched.
>
> make clean-depends doesn't take that much more time than make clean, so
> why the change?
I've filed a bug: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213188
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On Mon, Oct 3, 2016, at 16:33, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> Hi,
> I noticed hand full of new dependencies after PORTREVISION bump to 4
> because there is a new USE_XORG= x11
>
> Is this really needed? Phantomjs worked for me for a long time without
> any X11 libraries. We are always trying to keep our servers with minimum
> ports installed. We have OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 GUI CUPS DOCS EXAMPLES NLS
> but now we have 7 X11 libs installed on each machine just because of
> USE_XORG in Phantomjs.
>
> Is there a way to avoid this pollution?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Miroslav Lachman
Per your request I have made this an option "X11" disabled by default.
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Mark Felder wrote on 10/04/2016 17:23:
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> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016, at 16:33, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I noticed hand full of new dependencies after PORTREVISION bump to 4
>> because there is a new USE_XORG= x11
>>
>> Is this really needed? Phantomjs worked for me for a long time without
>> any X11 libraries. We are always trying to keep our servers with minimum
>> ports installed. We have OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 GUI CUPS DOCS EXAMPLES NLS
>> but now we have 7 X11 libs installed on each machine just because of
>> USE_XORG in Phantomjs.
>>
>> Is there a way to avoid this pollution?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Miroslav Lachman
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> Per your request I have made this an option "X11" disabled by default.
Thank you Mark. I really appreciate your work and quick response!
Miroslav Lachman
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Hello,
First off:
FreeBSD igor 9.3-RELEASE-p43 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May 28
00:19:32 UTC 2016
root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
/usr/ports/www/firefox/Makefile:
$FreeBSD: head/www/firefox/Makefile 422956 2016-09-30 01:15:10Z
jbeich $
Normally, I'd use the defaults of DBUS and FFMPEG, but for this build
I've unchecked all configuration options except OPTIMIZE_CFLAGS, which
is enabled.
How to reproduce:
% firefox
Bus error (core dumped)
URL loaded which crashed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbRsWJaT4Go
Any YouTube video will work to generate the crash. I have all extensions
disabled. A fresh profile makes no difference in the behavior.
Recompiling with OPTIMIZE_CFLAGS _disabled_ and DEBUG enabled produces
an immediate crash. Logs attached.
% gdb -c firefox.core /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
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GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
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This GDB was configured as
"amd64-marcel-freebsd".../home/zmetzing/.gdbinit:1: Error in sourced
command file:
Undefined command: "add-auto-load-safe-path". Try "help".
Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 4, should be
2) [in module /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox]
Core was generated by `firefox'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0 0x00000008020f564c in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0 0x00000008020f564c in ?? ()
#1 0x0000000807dd3e71 in ?? ()
#2 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
(gdb)
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Hi,
The 2016Q4 branch has been created. It means that the next update on the
quarterly packages will be on the 2016Q4 branch.
A lot of things happened in the last three months:
- pkg 1.8.7
- New USES: grantlee kde linux
- Removed USES: (none)
- New keywords: javavm
- Removed keywords: (none)
- Default version of linux added as c6
New versions of some important ports:
- Firefox 49.0
- Firefox-esr 45.4.0esr
- Chromium 52.0.2743.116
- gcc 4.8.5
Some major behind-the-scene changes:
- PHP extensions now install their own .ini in /usr/local/etc/php
- new GH_SUBDIR variable for USE_GITHUB
- NONE license and full support for Creative Commons licenses added
Next quarterly package builds will start on Tuesday, October 4th and
should be available on your closest mirrors few days later.
For those stat nerds out there, here's what happened during the last 3
months on head:
Number of commits: 5018
Number of committers: 159
Most active committers:
459 amdmi3
428 marino
263 pawel
216 pi
213 olgeni
204 mat
152 jbeich
146 antoine
138 wen
133 feld
Diffstat: 15202 files changed, 233780 insertions(+), 205572 deletions(-)
and on the 2016Q3 branch:
Number of commits: 277
Number of committers: 56
Most active committers:
36 feld
32 jbeich
16 brnrd
15 mat
15 junovitch
12 tz
10 rakuco
10 pi
9 koobs
8 riggs
Diffstat: 866 files changed, 13781 insertions(+), 6368 deletions(-)
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Hello,
I received the pkg-fallout message for port I'm maintaning, however
error is rather strange
http://beefy3.nyi.freebsd.org/data/93i386-quarterly/423181/logs/errors/zoneminder-1.30.0_3.log
/usr/local/lib/libopencv_core.so.2: undefined reference to
`std::ctype<char>::_M_widen_init() const@GLIBCXX_3.4.11'
My poudriere system is outdated and it will compile stuff for whole
night to get to this point, maybe more experienced folks can give me
suggestion? Issue with build infrastructure itself, like glibc was
updated in the middle of the process ?
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Hi,
I have a question about usage of openssl command in ports.
If a port uses openssl command for example in pkg-install, how can I
determine which openssl to use?
I think if ssl=base, /usr/bin/openssl should be used. If ssl=openssl,
${PREFIX}/bin/openssl should be used.
And other ssl ports.
Is there something like ${OPENSSL_CMD} or do I have to do manually like
this?
.if ${SSL_DEFAULT} == base
OPENSSL_CMD= /usr/bin/openssl
.endif
.if ${SSL_DEFAULT} == openssl
OPENSSL_CMD= ${PREFIX}/bin/openssl
.endif
.if ${SSL_DEFAULT} == libressl
OPENSSL_CMD= "i don't know"
.endif
--
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On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
> make config.
>
>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>> as a dependency, as
>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>> and whistles.
> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>
I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an easy to
request option,
(without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports)
e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything.
Most ports and packages are installed not because people want them,
but because they are forced to do so by dependencies.
Giving a way to reduce the number of unrequested packages, in a simple
way would be of great use to many many people
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2016, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> The ports will not be touched, but some will not run on 10.3 because of
> ABI changes in some shareable libraries. Most of the base system uses
> versioned symbols, so will work fine, but some, usually contributed
> code, don't. Ports that use them will need to be re-installed/rebuilt.
[...]
Many thanks; I'm a bit nervous, as this is my only FreeBSD server :-)
I know I'm going to have trouble with the ports area anyway, because I
seem to have corrupted it somehow (during the switch between pkg* etc),
and I cannot seem to reload it from the CD (disc1). Is there a way to
fetch the entire ports tree online?
Oh, this is for Joseph Mingrove: my mail log shows a message from you
(relayed via FreeBSD.org) but there's nothing in my mailbox about it (and
it certainly wasn't rejected). I guess I accidentally deleted it, so
could you please send it again?
--
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> Is there a way to display these dependencies in a tree structure?
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Skip it; it would've been some unassociated message on the list...
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On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
> > The ports will not be touched, but some will not run on 10.3 because of
> > ABI changes in some shareable libraries. Most of the base system uses
> > versioned symbols, so will work fine, but some, usually contributed
> > code, don't. Ports that use them will need to be re-installed/rebuilt.
>
> [...]
>
> Many thanks; I'm a bit nervous, as this is my only FreeBSD server :-)
>
> I know I'm going to have trouble with the ports area anyway, because I
> seem to have corrupted it somehow (during the switch between pkg* etc),
> and I cannot seem to reload it from the CD (disc1). Is there a way to
> fetch the entire ports tree online?
>
> Oh, this is for Joseph Mingrove: my mail log shows a message from you
> (relayed via FreeBSD.org) but there's nothing in my mailbox about it (and
> it certainly wasn't rejected). I guess I accidentally deleted it, so
> could you please send it again?
>
> --
> Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will
> suffer."
>
Of course. You can use portsnap(8) to do this. See 4.5 - Using the Ports
Collection
<https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html>
for details. It's quite trivial. This also will give you the latest
versions of all ports.
--
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Kevin Oberman wrote:
[ Reloading ports ]
> Of course. You can use portsnap(8) to do this. See 4.5 - Using the Ports
> Collection
> <https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html>
> for details. It's quite trivial. This also will give you the latest
> versions of all ports.
Many thanks! Now to pick a time to gird my loins...
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Subject: Re: usage of openssl command in ports
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Le 05/10/2016 =C3=A0 04:04, Koichiro IWAO a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi,
>
> I have a question about usage of openssl command in ports.
>
> If a port uses openssl command for example in pkg-install, how can I
> determine which openssl to use?
> I think if ssl=3Dbase, /usr/bin/openssl should be used. If ssl=3Dopens=
sl,
> ${PREFIX}/bin/openssl should be used.
> And other ssl ports.
>
> Is there something like ${OPENSSL_CMD} or do I have to do manually
> like this?
>
> .if ${SSL_DEFAULT} =3D=3D base
> OPENSSL_CMD=3D /usr/bin/openssl
> .endif
>
> .if ${SSL_DEFAULT} =3D=3D openssl
> OPENSSL_CMD=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/openssl
> .endif
It should be:
=2Eif ${SSL_DEFAULT} =3D=3D base
OPENSSL_CMD=3D /usr/bin/openssl
=2Eelse
OPENSSL_CMD=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/openssl
=2Eendif
--=20
Mathieu Arnold
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On 05/10/2016 03:04, Koichiro IWAO wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> I have a question about usage of openssl command in ports.
>=20
> If a port uses openssl command for example in pkg-install, how can I
> determine which openssl to use?
> I think if ssl=3Dbase, /usr/bin/openssl should be used. If ssl=3Dopens=
sl,
> ${PREFIX}/bin/openssl should be used.
> And other ssl ports.
Correct. You can also specify ssl=3Dlibressl
> Is there something like ${OPENSSL_CMD} or do I have to do manually like=
> this?
>=20
> .if ${SSL_DEFAULT} =3D=3D base
> OPENSSL_CMD=3D /usr/bin/openssl
> .endif
>=20
> .if ${SSL_DEFAULT} =3D=3D openssl
> OPENSSL_CMD=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/openssl
> .endif
>=20
> .if ${SSL_DEFAULT} =3D=3D libressl
> OPENSSL_CMD=3D "i don't know"
> .endif
No -- all of the openssl-like ports install an openssl binary. If your
port has:
USES=3D ssl
Then you can just use:
${OPENSSLBASE}/bin/openssl
to run the appropriate binary. You'ld have to use the SUB_LIST and
SUB_FILES mechanism to get the resulting value substituted into
pkg-install.in
Cheers,
Matthew
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Subject: Re: dependency explosions
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Le 05/10/2016 =C3=A0 05:18, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
> On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> Le 01/10/2016 =C3=A0 04:35, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
>> make config.
>>
>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming i=
n
>>> as a dependency, as
>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bell=
s
>>> and whistles.
>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>
> I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an easy to
> request option,
> (without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports)
> e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything.
> Most ports and packages are installed not because people want them,
> but because they are forced to do so by dependencies.
> Giving a way to reduce the number of unrequested packages, in a simple
> way would be of great use to many many people
Feel free to open PR/provide patches for ports which you think need to
provide more options.
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> to run the appropriate binary. You'ld have to use the SUB_LIST and
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This is what I wanted, thanks!
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Hello,
I'm attempting to create a new poudriere jail using the `-m src=/path`
method. The poudriere man page states about the -m src= option; "*This
directory will not be built from. It is expected that it is already built
and maps to a corresponding /usr/obj directory.*". So I have first done a
build world as follows;
export MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/home/jev/obj
cd /home/jev/src; make buildworld
this populates /home/jev/obj as expected. Then I run;
poudriere jails -c -j freebsd110_amd64 -m src=/home/jev/src -v 11.0
which fails shortly after the ">>> Installing everything" stage with the
following error;
"ccache: error: Could not find compiler "cc" in PATH " shortly after the
"Install Everything" stage.
I expect I'm overlooking something fundamental, any pointers are greatly
appreciated. Thank you.
Jev
PS.
Looking for a comitter for two new ports;
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212468
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212467
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On 10/04/16 23:18, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> [...]
>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>
> I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an easy to
> request option,
> (without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports)
> e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything.
> [...]
+1! -- George
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On 4/10/2016 11:38 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 05/10/2016 à 05:18, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>> On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
>>> make config.
>>>
>>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>>>> as a dependency, as
>>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>>>> and whistles.
>>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>>
>> I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an easy to
>> request option,
>> (without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports)
>> e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything.
>> Most ports and packages are installed not because people want them,
>> but because they are forced to do so by dependencies.
>> Giving a way to reduce the number of unrequested packages, in a simple
>> way would be of great use to many many people
> Feel free to open PR/provide patches for ports which you think need to
> provide more options.
I think it would be a framework change.
not so much a per-port change.
By default, when the variable is set you take the list of options for
the package, and set them all to 'unset'.
The only packages that would need work would be those for which that
is not a valid configuration, in which case you would supply some
precanned list of options to set to unset (or similar) e.g.
MIN_SETTINGS="bla foo bar"
the point is that if I'm including a port becuase it's just a prereq.
then I probably want almost no options set.. The port itself can
probably know what options are likely to be needed by things that need
it adn can possibly supply a sensible setting but if it doesn't it
might be possible to just do it automatically. It's ridiculous that a
single small port can pull in python, perl and TCL (I forget which it
was) along with some 40 or so other packages.
Another thing that might be good woudl be a way to tell ports "remove
all the ports that were just build dependencies".
>
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Julian Elischer wrote on 10/05/2016 22:04:
> On 4/10/2016 11:38 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> Le 05/10/2016 à 05:18, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>> On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>>> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>>>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
>>>> make config.
>>>>
>>>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>>>>> as a dependency, as
>>>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>>>>> and whistles.
>>>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will
>>>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>>>
>>> I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an easy to
>>> request option,
>>> (without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports)
>>> e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything.
>>> Most ports and packages are installed not because people want them,
>>> but because they are forced to do so by dependencies.
>>> Giving a way to reduce the number of unrequested packages, in a simple
>>> way would be of great use to many many people
>> Feel free to open PR/provide patches for ports which you think need to
>> provide more options.
> I think it would be a framework change.
> not so much a per-port change.
> By default, when the variable is set you take the list of options for
> the package, and set them all to 'unset'.
>
> The only packages that would need work would be those for which that is
> not a valid configuration, in which case you would supply some precanned
> list of options to set to unset (or similar) e.g. MIN_SETTINGS="bla foo
> bar"
>
> the point is that if I'm including a port becuase it's just a prereq.
> then I probably want almost no options set.. The port itself can
> probably know what options are likely to be needed by things that need
> it adn can possibly supply a sensible setting but if it doesn't it might
> be possible to just do it automatically. It's ridiculous that a single
> small port can pull in python, perl and TCL (I forget which it was)
> along with some 40 or so other packages.
There is one more problem - port A needs port B as dependency, port B
can be compiled with 4 options [W,X,Y,Z], port A needs port B with
option X which pull port C as dependency.
So this needs to be set somewhere or else default minimal options would
break some ports.
Miroslav Lachman
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> Julian Elischer wrote on 10/05/2016 22:04:
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>>> Le 05/10/2016 à 05:18, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>>> On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>>>> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>>>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>>>>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by
>>>>> running
>>>>> make config.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when
>>>>>> coming in
>>>>>> as a dependency, as
>>>>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all
>>>>>> the bells
>>>>>> and whistles.
>>>>> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what
>>>>> will
>>>>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>>>>
>>>> I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an
>>>> easy to
>>>> request option,
>>>> (without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports)
>>>> e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything.
>>>> Most ports and packages are installed not because people want them,
>>>> but because they are forced to do so by dependencies.
>>>> Giving a way to reduce the number of unrequested packages, in a
>>>> simple
>>>> way would be of great use to many many people
>>> Feel free to open PR/provide patches for ports which you think
>>> need to
>>> provide more options.
>> I think it would be a framework change.
>> not so much a per-port change.
>> By default, when the variable is set you take the list of options for
>> the package, and set them all to 'unset'.
>>
>> The only packages that would need work would be those for which
>> that is
>> not a valid configuration, in which case you would supply some
>> precanned
>> list of options to set to unset (or similar) e.g.
>> MIN_SETTINGS="bla foo
>> bar"
> >
>> the point is that if I'm including a port becuase it's just a prereq.
>> then I probably want almost no options set.. The port itself can
>> probably know what options are likely to be needed by things that need
>> it adn can possibly supply a sensible setting but if it doesn't it
>> might
>> be possible to just do it automatically. It's ridiculous that a single
>> small port can pull in python, perl and TCL (I forget which it was)
>> along with some 40 or so other packages.
>
>
> There is one more problem - port A needs port B as dependency, port
> B can be compiled with 4 options [W,X,Y,Z], port A needs port B with
> option X which pull port C as dependency.
> So this needs to be set somewhere or else default minimal options
> would break some ports.
any non-minimum port would trump a minimum port I would think. (and
replace it?)
it's just an idea. Born from frustration of not being able to do thigs
because htey call in too many other things.
If you call in too many other things the chance of one of them
breaking gets higher. (approaches unity in some cases I think).
> Miroslav Lachman
>
>
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> Another thing that might be good woudl be a way to tell ports "remove
> all the ports that were just build dependencies".
pkg autoremove
--=20
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>> Another thing that might be good woudl be a way to tell ports "remove
>> all the ports that were just build dependencies".
> pkg autoremove
hmm I didn't know that would remove build deps for packages that are
still installed.. if so .. good!
>
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> pkg autoremove
>
Thanks for that Mathieu - I didn't know about that one.
However...
When I run it, it tells me that it's going to remove my cyrus-SASL port.=20
I installed that (via its port) so that I can use SSL/TLS authentication=20
on my Dovecot server (installed via the dovecot2 port). So Cyrus is not=20
a build dependency of anything - why is it offering to remove it?
Thanks,
Graham
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Thanks for that, olli.
I didn't understand how I'd missed the fact that Dovecot now included=20
Cyrus. So I had a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING. Searching for Dovecot=20
shows a mention of it in the entry at 20160228. However, that's entitled=20
"AFFECTS: users of mail/postfix", and I don't use Postfix. I think that=20
Dovecot should have its own entry in UPDATING for that change too.
Graham
On 6/10/2016 9:38 AM, olli hauer wrote:
> Postfix in combination with dovecot doesn't require cyrus, since some=20
> months dovecot support is always provided by postfix.
> But i"m sorry and cannot expliain why cyrus is installed on your system
> --=20
> send with broken GMX mailer client, sorry for tofu and html scrap
> On 06/10/2016, 00:29 Graham Menhennitt <graham@menhennitt.com.au> wrote=
:
>
> On 6/10/2016 8:20 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> > Le 05/10/2016 =C3=A0 22:04, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
> >> Another thing that might be good woudl be a way to tell ports
> "remove
> >> all the ports that were just build dependencies".
> > pkg autoremove
> >
>
> Thanks for that Mathieu - I didn't know about that one.
>
> However...
>
> When I run it, it tells me that it's going to remove my cyrus-SASL
> port.
> I installed that (via its port) so that I can use SSL/TLS
> authentication
> on my Dovecot server (installed via the dovecot2 port). So Cyrus
> is not
> a build dependency of anything - why is it offering to remove it?
>
> Thanks,
> Graham
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Sorry, I just read that UPDATING entry again. Cyrus is only provided to=20
Dovecot if Postfix is present. I do not have Postfix present. So, I=20
think that I do need to install Cyrus explicitly.
So, back to my original question, why does "pkg autoremove" want to=20
uninstall Cyrus when I explicitly installed it from the port?
Thanks,
Graham
On 6/10/2016 10:12 AM, Graham Menhennitt wrote:
> Thanks for that, olli.
>
> I didn't understand how I'd missed the fact that Dovecot now included=20
> Cyrus. So I had a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING. Searching for Dovecot=20
> shows a mention of it in the entry at 20160228. However, that's=20
> entitled "AFFECTS: users of mail/postfix", and I don't use Postfix. I=20
> think that Dovecot should have its own entry in UPDATING for that=20
> change too.
>
> Graham
>
> On 6/10/2016 9:38 AM, olli hauer wrote:
>> Postfix in combination with dovecot doesn't require cyrus, since some=20
>> months dovecot support is always provided by postfix.
>> But i"m sorry and cannot expliain why cyrus is installed on your syste=
m
>> --=20
>> send with broken GMX mailer client, sorry for tofu and html scrap
>> On 06/10/2016, 00:29 Graham Menhennitt <graham@menhennitt.com.au> wrot=
e:
>>
>> On 6/10/2016 8:20 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> > Le 05/10/2016 =C3=A0 22:04, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
>> >> Another thing that might be good woudl be a way to tell ports
>> "remove
>> >> all the ports that were just build dependencies".
>> > pkg autoremove
>> >
>>
>> Thanks for that Mathieu - I didn't know about that one.
>>
>> However...
>>
>> When I run it, it tells me that it's going to remove my cyrus-SASL
>> port.
>> I installed that (via its port) so that I can use SSL/TLS
>> authentication
>> on my Dovecot server (installed via the dovecot2 port). So Cyrus
>> is not
>> a build dependency of anything - why is it offering to remove it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Graham
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Graham Menhennitt wrote on 2016/10/06 01:49:
> Sorry, I just read that UPDATING entry again. Cyrus is only provided to
> Dovecot if Postfix is present. I do not have Postfix present. So, I
> think that I do need to install Cyrus explicitly.
>
> So, back to my original question, why does "pkg autoremove" want to
> uninstall Cyrus when I explicitly installed it from the port?
pkg autoremove is working with pkg internal database. If you install
some ports directly with command "pkg install SomePort", then this ports
is nor marked as autoamtic. If some port is installed as depedency, then
it is marked as automatic and if parent port is removed, then this
automatic port can be deleted by "pkg autoremove"
You can use "pkg query" to check what is marked as automatic
pkg query '%a %n' | sort
You can change this settings by "pkg set" (see man pkg-query example)
EXAMPLES
Change a package from automatic to non-automatic, which will prevent
autoremove from removing it:
% pkg set -A 0 perl-5.14
Why you need cyrus-sasl? Do you use some tools from this package or just
some libs?
The Dovecot / Postfix case is that Dovecot have it's own internal SASL
libs and Postfix from some version have internal support for Dovecots
SASL and do not need to be build with Cyrus-SASL. But it is not related
to you if you are not using Postfix.
Miroslav Lachman
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On 05/10/2016 23:29, Graham Menhennitt wrote:
> When I run it, it tells me that it's going to remove my cyrus-SASL port=
=2E
> I installed that (via its port) so that I can use SSL/TLS authenticatio=
n
> on my Dovecot server (installed via the dovecot2 port). So Cyrus is not=
> a build dependency of anything - why is it offering to remove it?
Dovecot has it's own SASL implementation. It doesn't need the
equivalent Cyrus version. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Sasl
'pkg autoremove' is offering to remove cyrus-sasl because cyrus-sasl was
presumably originally installed as a runtime dependency of some port
(and hence marked as 'automatic'), but that port no longer depends on
cyrus-sasl, so pkg sees cyrus-sasl as a candidate for removal.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Thanks Miroslav,
Cyrus is marked as automatic and I don't understand why that is. But
I've removed it as I only needed its libraries for Dovecot and, as you
pointed out, that isn't necessary any more.
All working!
Thanks for your reply,
Graham
On 06/10/2016 11:23, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> Graham Menhennitt wrote on 2016/10/06 01:49:
>> Sorry, I just read that UPDATING entry again. Cyrus is only provided to
>> Dovecot if Postfix is present. I do not have Postfix present. So, I
>> think that I do need to install Cyrus explicitly.
>>
>> So, back to my original question, why does "pkg autoremove" want to
>> uninstall Cyrus when I explicitly installed it from the port?
>
> pkg autoremove is working with pkg internal database. If you install
> some ports directly with command "pkg install SomePort", then this
> ports is nor marked as autoamtic. If some port is installed as
> depedency, then it is marked as automatic and if parent port is
> removed, then this automatic port can be deleted by "pkg autoremove"
>
> You can use "pkg query" to check what is marked as automatic
>
> pkg query '%a %n' | sort
>
> You can change this settings by "pkg set" (see man pkg-query example)
>
> EXAMPLES
> Change a package from automatic to non-automatic, which will prevent
> autoremove from removing it:
> % pkg set -A 0 perl-5.14
>
>
>
> Why you need cyrus-sasl? Do you use some tools from this package or
> just some libs?
> The Dovecot / Postfix case is that Dovecot have it's own internal SASL
> libs and Postfix from some version have internal support for Dovecots
> SASL and do not need to be build with Cyrus-SASL. But it is not
> related to you if you are not using Postfix.
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Looks like I need to upgrade it for security issues; so I tried to compile
it from the ports area.
First it blew out my disk space (the "work" sub-directory), so when I
rearranged a few things to make more room it blew out my swap space!
On my box /tmp is "tmpfs" i.e. use memory first before overflowing into
swap; that's going to be trickier to fix... I guess I'll have to kludge
/tmp as a symlink into /usr/local or something, where I have heaps of
room.
On the other hand I guess I could figure out what requires Ruby, and
decide whether I really need it.
What sort of disk farms do these developers have? I'm only a small-time
user and wannabe developer...
--
Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."
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On 07/10/2016 17:35, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Looks like I need to upgrade it for security issues; so I tried to compile
> it from the ports area.
>
> First it blew out my disk space (the "work" sub-directory), so when I
> rearranged a few things to make more room it blew out my swap space!
>
Not sure what's going on with yours, but mine doesn't show any of those
symptoms. I build it regularly on a relatively low spec box (AMD G-T40E
Processor (1000.02-MHz K8-class CPU) with 4Gb RAM). Which version of
Ruby and which version of FreeBSD?
Graham
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I'm being haunted by this error on two CURRENT systems, while several other=
CURRENT
systems with identical src.conf and make.conf are not affected, please see =
below.
It seems, that somehow the compiler environment doesn't find standard c++/c=
includes.
Albeit the fact I spread my setups around other systems, I change sometimes
configuration, so it might be possible that on the both systems in question=
s a remnant or
miscompiled library might be the culprit.
The most important fact, always questioned here, is that I use CPUTYPE?+nat=
ive on both
IvyNridge (failing systems, both consumer and XEON type) and COPTS+=3D-O3 a=
s well. The very
same I use on systems with Haswell XEONs and SkyLake XEONs.
I tried to comment these "optimizations" out and restart a full recompilati=
on of all
requiremets via "portmaster -df graphics/opencv-core" (the same is with
graphics/blender!), as well as with vanilla/default settings shipped with F=
reeBSD
CURRENT/11-STABLE (same on 11-STABLE/11-RELEASE since I smoothly moved from=
there to
12-CURRENT) - but with a NULL effect.
I also use a poudriere framework compiling packages with the very same opti=
mixations
set(!) for some embedded appliances and it's driving me nuts: on those syst=
ems, the
compilation works fine, I have the proper ports including graphics/blender!
So, I guess I have a polluted/sick system which needs some investigation. S=
ince I can
definitely not delete every port and recompile it and I'm willing to spend =
some time to
clean up the mess manually, I'd like to ask for some help, tipps, suggestio=
ns.
I already filed PRs regarding graphics/blender
(https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D211809) and graphics/o=
pencv-core
(https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D211808).
Maybe someone has made similar experiences.
Please CC me, I do not subscribe this list although I try to watch on a reg=
ular basis.
Thanks in advance,
Oliver
[...]
cd /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core && /u=
sr/bin/c++
-DCVAPI_EXPORTS
-I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/dynamicuda/=
include
-I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core
-I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src
-I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/include
-I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1
-isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 -pipe =
-O3
-march=3Dnative -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -fsigned-char -W
-Werror=3Dreturn-type -Werror=3Daddress -Werror=3Dsequence-point -Wformat
-Werror=3Dformat-security -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstr=
ict-prototypes
-Wundef -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wsign-promo -Wno-narrowing
-Wno-delete-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-unnamed-type-template-args -Wno-array-bou=
nds
-fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-long-long -pthread -fomit-frame-pointer -mss=
e -msse2 -mavx
-mavx2 -ffunction-sections -O2 -pipe -O3 -march=3Dnative -fstack-protector
-fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -fPIC -o CMakeFiles/opencv_core.dir/src/arit=
hm.cpp.o
-c /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src/a=
rithm.cpp In
file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src=
/arithm.cpp:49:
In file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src=
/precomp.hpp:48:
In file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/inc=
lude/opencv2/core/core.hpp:53:
--- modules/core/CMakeFiles/opencv_core.dir/src/array.cpp.o --- In file inc=
luded
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src=
/array.cpp:49:
In file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src=
/precomp.hpp:48:
In file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/inc=
lude/opencv2/core/core.hpp:53:
In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file included
from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:4=
3:15: fatal
error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> ^ ---
modules/core/CMakeFiles/opencv_core.dir/src/arithm.cpp.o --- In file includ=
ed
from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: ---
modules/core/CMakeFiles/opencv_core.dir/src/alloc.cpp.o --- In file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src=
/alloc.cpp:43:
In file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src=
/precomp.hpp:48:
In file included
from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/inc=
lude/opencv2/core/core.hpp:53:
In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file included
from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:4=
3:15: fatal
error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h>
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O. Hartmann ohartman at zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote on Fri Oct 7 08:26:27 =
UTC 2016 . . .
. . . of having problems with not finding <stddef.h> during some port =
builds.
Is there a difference in the -isystem command line options for c++ for =
the working vs. failing contexts?
I will presume that there is based on the following. . . (At least it =
gives you something to look into.)
The issue is not specific to just graphics/opencv-core and =
graphics/blender ports: others also have problems with the use of =
-isystem for C++ compiles. See:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213217
in particular Comment #2 from Dimitry Andric.
The problem is in how -isystem is used vs. what is needed for libc++ =
3.8.0 .
=46rom O. Hartmann's message text:
. . .
> -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 =
-pipe -O3
. . .
> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> ^ ---
. . .
> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h>
Dimitry wrote for this issue of <stddef.h> not being found:
> Summary: If for some reason you must completely rebuild the header =
search path
> from scratch, you need to add -isystem /usr/include/c++/v1 *before* =
-isystem
> /usr/include. But it is better not to do this at all. :)
There is more background/supporting information in that comment.
=3D=3D=3D
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> O. Hartmann ohartman at zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote on Fri Oct 7 08:26:27 UT=
C 2016 . . .
>=20
> . . . of having problems with not finding <stddef.h> during some port bui=
lds.
>=20
>=20
> Is there a difference in the -isystem command line options for c++ for th=
e working vs.
> failing contexts?
>=20
> I will presume that there is based on the following. . . (At least it giv=
es you
> something to look into.)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The issue is not specific to just graphics/opencv-core and graphics/blend=
er ports:
> others also have problems with the use of -isystem for C++ compiles. See:
>=20
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213217
>=20
> in particular Comment #2 from Dimitry Andric.
>=20
> The problem is in how -isystem is used vs. what is needed for libc++ 3.8.=
0 .
>=20
> From O. Hartmann's message text:
>=20
> . . .
> > -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 -p=
ipe -O3 =20
> . . .
> > In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file includ=
ed
> > from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cstdd=
ef:43:15: fatal
> > error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> ^ --- =20
> . . .
> > In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file includ=
ed
> > from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cstdd=
ef:43:15: fatal
> > error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> =20
>=20
>=20
> Dimitry wrote for this issue of <stddef.h> not being found:
>=20
> > Summary: If for some reason you must completely rebuild the header sear=
ch path
> > from scratch, you need to add -isystem /usr/include/c++/v1 *before* -i=
system
> > /usr/include. But it is better not to do this at all. :) =20
>=20
> There is more background/supporting information in that comment.
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net
Hello Mark,
thanks a lot for the hint.
I can not fathom - at the moment - what is different on the two failing sys=
tems compared
to the non-failing ones. There must be something changing the order of how =
the include
path is searched now
- presumably I understood Dimitry Andric comment right (who explains the pr=
oblem very good
for my taste).
I will make a reference to Dimitri's comment on both PRs I filed.
Oliver
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Subject: Re: graphics/opencv2-core: compiler error on CURRENT: error:
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Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> schrieb:
> O. Hartmann ohartman at zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote on Fri Oct 7 08:26:27 UT=
C 2016 . . .
>=20
> . . . of having problems with not finding <stddef.h> during some port bui=
lds.
>=20
>=20
> Is there a difference in the -isystem command line options for c++ for th=
e working vs.
> failing contexts?
>=20
> I will presume that there is based on the following. . . (At least it giv=
es you
> something to look into.)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The issue is not specific to just graphics/opencv-core and graphics/blend=
er ports:
> others also have problems with the use of -isystem for C++ compiles. See:
>=20
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213217
>=20
> in particular Comment #2 from Dimitry Andric.
>=20
> The problem is in how -isystem is used vs. what is needed for libc++ 3.8.=
0 .
>=20
> From O. Hartmann's message text:
>=20
> . . .
> > -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 -p=
ipe -O3 =20
> . . .
> > In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file includ=
ed
> > from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cstdd=
ef:43:15: fatal
> > error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> ^ --- =20
> . . .
> > In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file includ=
ed
> > from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cstdd=
ef:43:15: fatal
> > error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> =20
>=20
>=20
> Dimitry wrote for this issue of <stddef.h> not being found:
>=20
> > Summary: If for some reason you must completely rebuild the header sear=
ch path
> > from scratch, you need to add -isystem /usr/include/c++/v1 *before* -i=
system
> > /usr/include. But it is better not to do this at all. :) =20
>=20
> There is more background/supporting information in that comment.
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net
I'd like to mention, that I do updates and recompilation of the system on a=
almost daily
basis. Might it be possible thta I hit some transitional effects in the too=
lchain?
This is our/my src.conf:
#
CPUTYPE?=3D native
#
CFLAGS+=3D -O3
COPTFLAGS+=3D -O3
#
#CXXFLAGS+=3D -std=3Dc++11
#
WITH_CLANG_FULL=3D YES
WITH_CLANG_EXTRAS=3D YES
WITH_LLDB=3D YES
The /etc/makefile has
CPUTYPE?=3Dnative
COPTFLAGS+=3D-O3
I once compiled the systems (all of them without exceptions) with also
CXXFLAGS+=3D-std=3Dc++11 set, but since the problems arose, I avoid that.
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> On 2016-Oct-7, at 2:14 AM, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrot=
e:
> >=20
> > Am Fri, 7 Oct 2016 02:00:34 -0700
> > Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> schrieb:
> > =20
> >> O. Hartmann ohartman at zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote on Fri Oct 7 08:26:27=
UTC 2016 . . .
> >>=20
> >> . . . of having problems with not finding <stddef.h> during some port =
builds.
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> Is there a difference in the -isystem command line options for c++ for=
the working
> >> vs. failing contexts?
> >>=20
> >> I will presume that there is based on the following. . . (At least it =
gives you
> >> something to look into.)
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> The issue is not specific to just graphics/opencv-core and graphics/bl=
ender ports:
> >> others also have problems with the use of -isystem for C++ compiles. S=
ee:
> >>=20
> >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213217
> >>=20
> >> in particular Comment #2 from Dimitry Andric.
> >>=20
> >> The problem is in how -isystem is used vs. what is needed for libc++ 3=
.8.0 .
> >>=20
> >> From O. Hartmann's message text:
> >>=20
> >> . . . =20
> >>> -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 =
-pipe -O3 =20
> >> . . . =20
> >>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file incl=
uded
> >>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cst=
ddef:43:15:
> >>> fatal error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> ^ ---=
=20
> >> . . . =20
> >>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file incl=
uded
> >>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cst=
ddef:43:15:
> >>> fatal error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> =20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> Dimitry wrote for this issue of <stddef.h> not being found:
> >> =20
> >>> Summary: If for some reason you must completely rebuild the header se=
arch path
> >>> from scratch, you need to add -isystem /usr/include/c++/v1 *before* =
-isystem
> >>> /usr/include. But it is better not to do this at all. :) =20
> >>=20
> >> There is more background/supporting information in that comment.
> >>=20
> >> =3D=3D=3D
> >> Mark Millard
> >> markmi at dsl-only.net =20
> >=20
> > Hello Mark,
> >=20
> > thanks a lot for the hint.
> >=20
> > I can not fathom - at the moment - what is different on the two failing=
systems
> > compared to the non-failing ones. There must be something changing the =
order of how
> > the include path is searched now =20
>=20
> Do the log files from the various working systems show any differences in=
the -isystem
> sequence compared to the failing ones (for the same source file being com=
piled)?
I have not checked that yet, but it is an excellent advice. I have a notebo=
ok compiling
both ports perfectly.
>=20
> It might be appropriate for your submittals (buszizlla and list) to also =
include
> extractions of a working context's -isystem sequence vs. a failing contex=
t's -isystem
> sequence for compiling the same source file. (Your list submittal already=
showed an
> example of the failing -isystem sequence, one that matches what Dimitry A=
. reports: So
> expected to fail.) The working -isystem sequence one is not currently sho=
wn, at least
> in the list submittal.)
As soon I find something different, I'll do.
But this will take a while as I'm not in lab at themoment.
>=20
> If both types of contexts have the same -isystem sequence then something =
more is likely
> going on. But then showing examples of the matching log file text for the=
-isystem
> sequences for the two types of contexts would then be appropriate to iden=
tify the
> problem as unique.
>=20
>=20
> > - presumably I understood Dimitry Andric comment right (who explains th=
e problem very
> > good for my taste).
> >=20
> > I will make a reference to Dimitri's comment on both PRs I filed.
> >=20
> > Oliver =20
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D
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From: Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>
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On 2016-Oct-7, at 2:14 AM, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> =
wrote:
>=20
> Am Fri, 7 Oct 2016 02:00:34 -0700
> Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> schrieb:
>=20
>> O. Hartmann ohartman at zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote on Fri Oct 7 =
08:26:27 UTC 2016 . . .
>>=20
>> . . . of having problems with not finding <stddef.h> during some port =
builds.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Is there a difference in the -isystem command line options for c++ =
for the working vs.
>> failing contexts?
>>=20
>> I will presume that there is based on the following. . . (At least it =
gives you
>> something to look into.)
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> The issue is not specific to just graphics/opencv-core and =
graphics/blender ports:
>> others also have problems with the use of -isystem for C++ compiles. =
See:
>>=20
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213217
>>=20
>> in particular Comment #2 from Dimitry Andric.
>>=20
>> The problem is in how -isystem is used vs. what is needed for libc++ =
3.8.0 .
>>=20
>> =46rom O. Hartmann's message text:
>>=20
>> . . .
>>> -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 =
-pipe -O3 =20
>> . . .
>>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
>>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
>>> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> ^ --- =20
>> . . .
>>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
>>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
>>> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Dimitry wrote for this issue of <stddef.h> not being found:
>>=20
>>> Summary: If for some reason you must completely rebuild the header =
search path
>>> from scratch, you need to add -isystem /usr/include/c++/v1 *before* =
-isystem
>>> /usr/include. But it is better not to do this at all. :) =20
>>=20
>> There is more background/supporting information in that comment.
>>=20
>> =3D=3D=3D
>> Mark Millard
>> markmi at dsl-only.net
>=20
> Hello Mark,
>=20
> thanks a lot for the hint.
>=20
> I can not fathom - at the moment - what is different on the two =
failing systems compared
> to the non-failing ones. There must be something changing the order of =
how the include
> path is searched now
Do the log files from the various working systems show any differences =
in the -isystem sequence compared to the failing ones (for the same =
source file being compiled)?
It might be appropriate for your submittals (buszizlla and list) to also =
include extractions of a working context's -isystem sequence vs. a =
failing context's -isystem sequence for compiling the same source file. =
(Your list submittal already showed an example of the failing -isystem =
sequence, one that matches what Dimitry A. reports: So expected to =
fail.) The working -isystem sequence one is not currently shown, at =
least in the list submittal.)
If both types of contexts have the same -isystem sequence then something =
more is likely going on. But then showing examples of the matching log =
file text for the -isystem sequences for the two types of contexts would =
then be appropriate to identify the problem as unique.
> - presumably I understood Dimitry Andric comment right (who explains =
the problem very good
> for my taste).
>=20
> I will make a reference to Dimitri's comment on both PRs I filed.
>=20
> Oliver
=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
markmi@dsl-only.net
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Hi Ports,
We're trying to fix a bug in logitechmediaserver which is a port which makes use of a number of non-
standard (hacked?) versions of standard perl modules. My question is how to get the perl
architecture in the plist. For example, we're using
@dir %%SLIMDIR%%/CPAN/arch/%%PERL_VER%%/%%ARCH%%-freebsd-thread-
multi/auto/ExtUtils/CBuilder
This works out as /usr/local/share/logitechmediaserver/CPAN/arch/5.20/amd64-freebsd-thread-
multi/auto/ExtUtils/CBuilder/ on amd64, which is correct.
However, on i386 it should be
/usr/local/share/logitechmediaserver/CPAN/arch/5.20/i386-freebsd-thread-
multi-64int/auto/ExtUtils/CBuilder/
Obviously, the plist doesn't get the -64int suffix.I kinda dread to think what it might be on other
platforms too.
Are we missing something, or doing something daft here?
Thanks,
Mark
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From: mokhi <mokhi64@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 14:00:36 +0330
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Subject: Re: mysql57 now fails to build on FreeBSD 9 with libressl
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> No, poudriere told you:
>
> Using WITH_OPENSSL_PORT in make.conf is deprecated, replace it with
> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl in your make.conf
>
> There is something very important in that sentence you missed, it is the
> "*in your make.conf" part.
Oh yes you're right!
I missed the point (probably because I added option to the Makefile
and i expected poudriere to tell me about it not the make.conf :D)
> Feel free to use WITH_OPENSSL_PORT in the Makefile, it too, is a global
> knob, but its use in the ports Makefile is so common that it is acceptable.
>
> There is a good chance this knob too is going away, and the packages for
> mysql 5.7 will not build on 9.
Okay, so should i open Bugzilla-PR or Phbaricator-review for adding
the `WITH_OPENSSL_PORT` instead of the wrong one
(`DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl`) to Makefile (at least till knob goes
away) so that we have a temporary good fix on 9.X ?
Best wishes, Mokhi
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Subject: Re: graphics/opencv2-core: compiler error on CURRENT: error:
'stddef.h' file not found
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On 2016-Oct-7, at 2:34 AM, O. Hartmann <ohartman at zedat.fu-berlin.de> =
wrote:
> Am Fri, 7 Oct 2016 02:00:34 -0700
> Mark Millard <markmi at dsl-only.net> schrieb:
>=20
>> O. Hartmann ohartman at zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote on Fri Oct 7 =
08:26:27 UTC 2016 . . .
>>=20
>> . . . of having problems with not finding <stddef.h> during some port =
builds.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Is there a difference in the -isystem command line options for c++ =
for the working vs.
>> failing contexts?
>>=20
>> I will presume that there is based on the following. . . (At least it =
gives you
>> something to look into.)
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> The issue is not specific to just graphics/opencv-core and =
graphics/blender ports:
>> others also have problems with the use of -isystem for C++ compiles. =
See:
>>=20
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213217
>>=20
>> in particular Comment #2 from Dimitry Andric.
>>=20
>> The problem is in how -isystem is used vs. what is needed for libc++ =
3.8.0 .
>>=20
>> =46rom O. Hartmann's message text:
>>=20
>> . . .
>>> -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 =
-pipe -O3 =20
>> . . .
>>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
>>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
>>> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> ^ --- =20
>> . . .
>>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
>>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
>>> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Dimitry wrote for this issue of <stddef.h> not being found:
>>=20
>>> Summary: If for some reason you must completely rebuild the header =
search path
>>> from scratch, you need to add -isystem /usr/include/c++/v1 *before* =
-isystem
>>> /usr/include. But it is better not to do this at all. :) =20
>>=20
>> There is more background/supporting information in that comment.
>>=20
>> =3D=3D=3D
>> Mark Millard
>> markmi at dsl-only.net
>=20
> I'd like to mention, that I do updates and recompilation of the system =
on a almost daily
> basis. Might it be possible thta I hit some transitional effects in =
the toolchain?
>=20
I've not seen any relevant svn-src-stable-11 or svn-src-head notices for =
clang 3.8.0 or libc++ 3.8.0 changes in recent times (at least that I =
remember). 3.9.0 has not moved to head yet. That would appear to leave =
command line generation by other parts of the build environment for what =
might vary. I do not remember anything for that either.
> This is our/my src.conf:
>=20
> #
> CPUTYPE?=3D native
> #
> CFLAGS+=3D -O3
> COPTFLAGS+=3D -O3
> #
> #CXXFLAGS+=3D -std=3Dc++11
> #
> WITH_CLANG_FULL=3D YES
> WITH_CLANG_EXTRAS=3D YES
> WITH_LLDB=3D YES
>=20
>=20
> The /etc/makefile has
>=20
> CPUTYPE?=3Dnative
> COPTFLAGS+=3D-O3
>=20
> I once compiled the systems (all of them without exceptions) with also
> CXXFLAGS+=3D-std=3Dc++11 set, but since the problems arose, I avoid =
that.
I do not expect that Dimitry A.'s comments about -isystem and the search =
paths vary much based on -std=3Dc++11 , -std=3Dc++14 , or older/other =
-std=3D??? variants compiled by clang 3.8.0. It is just that libc++ =
3.8.0 is in use if I understand correctly. (libc++ auto adapts to the =
-std=3D??? target.) May be there is somewhat more internal use of =
<stddef.h> for more modern but the basic problem likely exists for all =
target C++ vintages.
libc++ 3.8.0 does use <cstddef> internally ( via #include ) and that in =
turn uses <stddef.h> ( via #include_next ):
(The below are from a stable/11 -r306344 context.)
> # grep cstddef /usr/include/c++/v1/*
> /usr/include/c++/v1/__debug:# include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/__refstring:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/__tuple:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/atomic:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/bitset:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef://=3D=3D=3D--------------------------- =
cstddef ----------------------------------=3D=3D=3D//
> /usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef: cstddef synopsis
> /usr/include/c++/v1/exception:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/iterator:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/memory:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/new:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/random:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/thread:#include <cstddef>
> Binary file /usr/include/c++/v1/tr1 matches
> /usr/include/c++/v1/tuple:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/type_traits:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/typeinfo:#include <cstddef>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/valarray:#include <cstddef>
> # grep stddef.h /usr/include/c++/v1/*
> /usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:// Don't include our own <stddef.h>; we =
don't want to declare ::nullptr_t.
> /usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:#include_next <stddef.h>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:// Re-use the compiler's <stddef.h> =
max_align_t where possible.
> /usr/include/c++/v1/cxxabi.h:#include <stddef.h>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/stddef.h://=3D=3D=3D--------------------------- =
stddef.h ---------------------------------=3D=3D=3D//
> /usr/include/c++/v1/stddef.h:#include_next <stddef.h>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/stddef.h: stddef.h synopsis
> /usr/include/c++/v1/stddef.h:#include_next <stddef.h>
> /usr/include/c++/v1/stddef.h:// Re-use the compiler's <stddef.h> =
max_align_t where possible.
> Binary file /usr/include/c++/v1/tr1 matches
cxxabi.h also uses <stddef.h> ( see above via #include ). Even stddef.h =
uses stddef.h --but via #include_next .
So it appears that having a bad -isystem sequence is fairly likely to =
get this problem when libc++ 3.8.0 headers are in use. Some libc++ =
header(s) may be in use implicitly even if there are no explicit =
#include's of libc++ headers in the code referenced via the c++ =
compiler's command line.
=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
markmi at dsl-only.net
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> I'm being haunted by this error on two CURRENT systems, while several =
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> systems with identical src.conf and make.conf are not affected, please =
see below.
...
> cd /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core =
&& /usr/bin/c++
> -DCVAPI_EXPORTS
> =
-I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/dynamicuda=
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> -I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core
> =
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> =
-I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/inclu=
de
> -I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1
> -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 =
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> -march=3Dnative -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -fsigned-char =
-W
> -Werror=3Dreturn-type -Werror=3Daddress -Werror=3Dsequence-point =
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> -Werror=3Dformat-security -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes =
-Wstrict-prototypes
> -Wundef -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wsign-promo =
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> -Wno-delete-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-unnamed-type-template-args =
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> -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-long-long -pthread -fomit-frame-pointer =
-msse -msse2 -mavx
> -mavx2 -ffunction-sections -O2 -pipe -O3 -march=3Dnative =
-fstack-protector
> -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -fPIC -o =
CMakeFiles/opencv_core.dir/src/arithm.cpp.o
...
> In file included
> from =
/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/include=
/opencv2/core/core.hpp:53:
> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h>
So for some reason, on your system, the compilation flags include
-isystem /usr/include/include, which is rather strange. I would not
expect this to break compilation in the fashion you are seeing. Do you
have an /usr/include/include directory on your system, by any chance?
That said, for me graphics/opencv2-core compiles just fine, and the
compilation flags only have an -isystem option to point at the
/usr/local/include/eigen3 directory.
Maybe the problem lies in the eigen3 port? I assume this will have a
pkg-config file, or some other way at getting the required CFLAGS and
CXXFLAGS for using it.
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> On 07 Oct 2016, at 10:26, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >=20
> > I'm being haunted by this error on two CURRENT systems, while several o=
ther CURRENT
> > systems with identical src.conf and make.conf are not affected, please =
see below. =20
> ...
> > cd /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core &=
& /usr/bin/c++
> > -DCVAPI_EXPORTS
> > -I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/dynamic=
uda/include
> > -I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core
> > -I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/src
> > -I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/in=
clude
> > -I/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1
> > -isystem /usr/local/include/eigen3 -isystem /usr/include/include -O2 -p=
ipe -O3
> > -march=3Dnative -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -fsigned-char =
-W
> > -Werror=3Dreturn-type -Werror=3Daddress -Werror=3Dsequence-point -Wform=
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> > -Werror=3Dformat-security -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes
> > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wsign=
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> > -Wno-narrowing -Wno-delete-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-unnamed-type-template-=
args
> > -Wno-array-bounds -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-long-long -pthread
> > -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -msse2 -mavx -mavx2 -ffunction-sections -O2 =
-pipe -O3
> > -march=3Dnative -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -fPIC =
-o
> > CMakeFiles/opencv_core.dir/src/arithm.cpp.o =20
> ...
> > In file included
> > from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core=
/include/opencv2/core/core.hpp:53:
> > In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file includ=
ed
> > from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cstdd=
ef:43:15: fatal
> > error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> =20
>=20
> So for some reason, on your system, the compilation flags include
> -isystem /usr/include/include, which is rather strange. I would not
> expect this to break compilation in the fashion you are seeing. Do you
> have an /usr/include/include directory on your system, by any chance?
YES :-(
/usr/include/include does exist ...=20
>=20
> That said, for me graphics/opencv2-core compiles just fine, and the
> compilation flags only have an -isystem option to point at the
> /usr/local/include/eigen3 directory.
>=20
> Maybe the problem lies in the eigen3 port? I assume this will have a
> pkg-config file, or some other way at getting the required CFLAGS and
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On 07 Oct 2016, at 13:43, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> =
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> Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org> schrieb:
>> On 07 Oct 2016, at 10:26, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> =
wrote:
...
>>> In file included
>>> from =
/usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/core/include=
/opencv2/core/core.hpp:53:
>>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file =
included
>>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: =
/usr/include/c++/v1/cstddef:43:15: fatal
>>> error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h>
>>=20
>> So for some reason, on your system, the compilation flags include
>> -isystem /usr/include/include, which is rather strange. I would not
>> expect this to break compilation in the fashion you are seeing. Do =
you
>> have an /usr/include/include directory on your system, by any chance?
>=20
> YES :-(
>=20
> /usr/include/include does exist ...
Right, so that is pretty strange. Maybe it was an artefact of some
failed installation? In any case, I would blow it away.
Btw, it looks like the eigen port uses pkgconfig, can you please post
the contents of your /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/eigen3.pc file?
-Dimitry
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On 07 Oct 2016, at 13:59, Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
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> On 07 Oct 2016, at 13:43, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> =
wrote:
...
>> YES :-(
>>=20
>> /usr/include/include does exist ...
>=20
> Right, so that is pretty strange. Maybe it was an artefact of some
> failed installation? In any case, I would blow it away.
>=20
> Btw, it looks like the eigen port uses pkgconfig, can you please post
> the contents of your /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/eigen3.pc file?
For reference, on my system where I just freshly compiled eigen3, the
contents is this:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
prefix=3D/usr/local
exec_prefix=3D${prefix}
Name: Eigen3
Description: A C++ template library for linear algebra: vectors, =
matrices, and related algorithms
Requires:
Version: 3.2.10
Libs:
Cflags: -I${prefix}/include/eigen3
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org> schrieb:
> On 07 Oct 2016, at 13:43, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >=20
> > Am Fri, 7 Oct 2016 13:27:19 +0200
> > Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org> schrieb: =20
> >> On 07 Oct 2016, at 10:26, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wr=
ote: =20
> ...
> >>> In file included
> >>> from /usr/ports/graphics/opencv2-core/work/opencv-2.4.13.1/modules/co=
re/include/opencv2/core/core.hpp:53:
> >>> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:624: In file incl=
uded
> >>> from /usr/include/c++/v1/initializer_list:47: /usr/include/c++/v1/cst=
ddef:43:15:
> >>> fatal error: 'stddef.h' file not found #include_next <stddef.h> =20
> >>=20
> >> So for some reason, on your system, the compilation flags include
> >> -isystem /usr/include/include, which is rather strange. I would not
> >> expect this to break compilation in the fashion you are seeing. Do you
> >> have an /usr/include/include directory on your system, by any chance? =
=20
> >=20
> > YES :-(
> >=20
> > /usr/include/include does exist ... =20
>=20
> Right, so that is pretty strange. Maybe it was an artefact of some
> failed installation? In any case, I would blow it away.
Within the past years, I slide from one CURRENT to the next. There was no a=
ccdent as far
as I can recall, but due to the fact I do quite often a recompilation of th=
e system, the
likelyhood of hitting the fan (or problems) is quite high. I gues this is a=
remnant of
some problems not visible to me.
I blew the /usr/include/include folder, but then the system rejected to bui=
ldworld. I had
to reinstall world, did a complete buildworld/buildkernel with recent sourc=
es and started
recompilation of updated ports. Now, graphics/opencv2-core compiles!
Thank you very much. Quite impressive!
>=20
> Btw, it looks like the eigen port uses pkgconfig, can you please post
> the contents of your /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/eigen3.pc file?
>=20
> -Dimitry
>=20
Content of /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/eigen3.pc:
prefix=3D/usr/local
exec_prefix=3D${prefix}
Name: Eigen3
Description: A C++ template library for linear algebra: vectors, matrices, =
and related
algorithms Requires:
Version: 3.2.10
Libs:
Cflags: -I${prefix}/include/eigen3
Thank you very much and kind regards,
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> On 07 Oct 2016, at 13:59, Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >=20
> > On 07 Oct 2016, at 13:43, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wro=
te: =20
> ...
> >> YES :-(
> >>=20
> >> /usr/include/include does exist ... =20
> >=20
> > Right, so that is pretty strange. Maybe it was an artefact of some
> > failed installation? In any case, I would blow it away.
> >=20
> > Btw, it looks like the eigen port uses pkgconfig, can you please post
> > the contents of your /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/eigen3.pc file? =20
>=20
> For reference, on my system where I just freshly compiled eigen3, the
> contents is this:
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> prefix=3D/usr/local
> exec_prefix=3D${prefix}
>=20
> Name: Eigen3
> Description: A C++ template library for linear algebra: vectors, matrices=
, and related
> algorithms Requires:
> Version: 3.2.10
> Libs:
> Cflags: -I${prefix}/include/eigen3
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>=20
> -Dimitry
>=20
Mine looks the same:
---
prefix=3D/usr/local
exec_prefix=3D${prefix}
Name: Eigen3
Description: A C++ template library for linear algebra: vectors, matrices, =
and related
algorithms Requires:
Version: 3.2.10
Libs:
Cflags: -I${prefix}/include/eigen3
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Le 07/10/2016 =C3=A0 11:53, Mark Dixon a =C3=A9crit :
> Are we missing something, or doing something daft here?
Doing something daft for sure :-)
Look at Mk/Uses/perl5.mk for some variables to pass to the build process
so that it does not uses the real Perl arch but the FreeBSD standard "mac=
h".
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Am 7. Oktober 2016 20:35:33 MESZ, schrieb Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu>:
>Hi!
>
>> looking for a commiter for:
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213254
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On 7 Oct 2016, at 2:35, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Looks like I need to upgrade it for security issues; so I tried to compile
> it from the ports area.
>
> First it blew out my disk space (the "work" sub-directory), so when I
> rearranged a few things to make more room it blew out my swap space!
>
> On my box /tmp is "tmpfs" i.e. use memory first before overflowing into
> swap; that's going to be trickier to fix... I guess I'll have to kludge
> /tmp as a symlink into /usr/local or something, where I have heaps of
> room.
The size of ruby compared to <what>?
How big is the partition with /usr/ports on it?
What size is your swap area?
> On the other hand I guess I could figure out what requires Ruby,
> and decide whether I really need it.
I do not know much about the 'pkg' command, but it looks
like you could try:
pkg info lang/ruby\*
Which for me lists:
ruby-2.2.5_1,1
ruby21-2.1.9_1,1
Then to see what ruby depends on, try:
pkg query %dn ruby
pkg query %dn ruby21 # if it was listed above
Which for me lists these ports as dependencies *of* ruby
(you need to build these ports before building ruby):
libedit
openssl
libyaml
libffi
libexecinfo
ruby itself isn't too large, but if building ruby means that
you need to build those ports, then the build of all of that
will chew up a lot more resources (both disk space and swap).
If you want to find out what packages depend on ruby, try:
pkg query %rn ruby
which for me (on my machines) lists:
ruby22-bdb
portupgrade
Portupgrade is what I use to build freebsd ports, so I would not
be dropping that anytime soon.
>
> What sort of disk farms do these developers have? I'm only a small-time
> user and wannabe developer...
I don't know about "these developers", but I've been building
ruby on freebsd for about as long as the language has been
available, and right now I'm doing that on one modest PC which
I bought back in 2008, and also on one pretty small virtual
machine (which is an off-site hot backup of the first machine).
Ruby isn't tiny, but building it has never been a problem on
any of my systems, ever. I seem to remember that I have run
into issues when I went to build some port which in turn built
many other ports, but that was quite some time ago. Maybe that
is what you're seeing.
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Afternoon all,
I've just updated a port I maintain (gohugo) for the first time. I've =
made changes to the Makefile, distinfo and pkg-plist files, then made an =
svn diff and attached that to a bug =
(https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213309 =
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213309>). Do I now =
just wait for a committer to review and feedback/commit? Or should I be =
asking for someone to look at it? Appreciate this might work like =
asking for it, but wanted to know the procedure from here.
Many thanks,
Ben=
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Hi =E2=80=94
as audio/squeezeboxserver has gone, I need to migrate to =
audio/logitechmediaserver.=20
But I am failing to get this port compiled by poudriere (3.2-pre):
| =E2=80=A6
| ---End make.conf=E2=80=94
| =3D=3D=3D=3D>> Ignoring audio/logitechmediaserver: License SDL =
needs confirmation, but BATCH is defined
| =E2=80=A6
I did try to run =E2=80=A6
poudriere testport -j stable -c -i audio/logitechmediaserver
poudriere testport -j stable -c -I audio/logitechmediaserver
=E2=80=A6 without success.
Is there a way to get that port packed by poudriere?
Thanks and regards,
Michael
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Hi!
> I've just updated a port I maintain (gohugo) for the first time.
> I've made changes to the Makefile, distinfo and pkg-plist files,
> then made an svn diff and attached that to a bug
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213309
> Do I now just wait for a committer to review and feedback/commit?
Yes. Please add notes to the PR if you test-build your patch,
for example using poudriere, and maybe for one or several of the
current FreeBSD releases like CURRENT, 11, 10.3 and 9.3, and for
several plattforms, like amd64 and i386, and maybe ARM 8-}, that would help
committers to decide that the patch is tested.
If you add a note that you run-tested the code and it does what
it's supposed to do, that's helpful, too.
If you note that portlint -AC was fine, too, this helps, too.
And if you add a URL to the changelog, this helps, as well.
> Or
> should I be asking for someone to look at it? Appreciate this might
> work like asking for it, but wanted to know the procedure from here.
I use this link to look at the open bugs queue for ports:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=New&email1=freebsd-ports-bugs%40FreeBSD.org&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&list_id=138493
If this queue gets longer, it means committers are failing behind.
We had approx. 290 PRs around end of August, and we're now at 342,
this means the backlog is getting worse. There was eurobsdcon,
and most of us are waiting for 11.0-RELEASE, so that might
explain the backlog 8-} So a bit of patience is probably appropriate.
Btw, testbuilding right now...
--
pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 4 years to go !
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On 8 Oct, Michael Grimm wrote:
> Hi ?
>
> as audio/squeezeboxserver has gone, I need to migrate to
> audio/logitechmediaserver.
>
> But I am failing to get this port compiled by poudriere (3.2-pre):
>
> | ?
> | ---End make.conf—
> | ====>> Ignoring audio/logitechmediaserver: License SDL needs confirmation, but BATCH is defined
> | ?
>
> I did try to run ?
>
> poudriere testport -j stable -c -i audio/logitechmediaserver
> poudriere testport -j stable -c -I audio/logitechmediaserver
>
> ? without success.
>
> Is there a way to get that port packed by poudriere?
Add
LICENSES_ACCEPTED=SDL
to /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf. You are still responsible for
following the license terms.
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From: Michael Grimm <trashcan@ellael.org>
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Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>=20
> On 8 Oct, Michael Grimm wrote:
>> as audio/squeezeboxserver has gone, I need to migrate to
>> audio/logitechmediaserver.=20
>>=20
>> But I am failing to get this port compiled by poudriere (3.2-pre):
>>=20
>> | ?
>> | ---End make.conf=E2=80=94
>> | =3D=3D=3D=3D>> Ignoring audio/logitechmediaserver: License SDL =
needs confirmation, but BATCH is defined
>> | ?
>>=20
>> I did try to run ?
>>=20
>> poudriere testport -j stable -c -i audio/logitechmediaserver
>> poudriere testport -j stable -c -I audio/logitechmediaserver
>>=20
>> ? without success.
>>=20
>> Is there a way to get that port packed by poudriere?
>=20
> Add
> LICENSES_ACCEPTED=3DSDL
> to /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf. You are still responsible =
for
> following the license terms.
Thank you very much! That did the trick.=20
I am asking myself where should one look for such kind of information?
Again, thank you, and with kind regards,
Michael
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From: Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: poudriere / logitechmediaserver: License SDL needs
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On 8 Oct, Michael Grimm wrote:
> Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 8 Oct, Michael Grimm wrote:
>
>>> as audio/squeezeboxserver has gone, I need to migrate to
>>> audio/logitechmediaserver.
>>>
>>> But I am failing to get this port compiled by poudriere (3.2-pre):
>>>
>>> | ?
>>> | ---End make.conf—
>>> | ====>> Ignoring audio/logitechmediaserver: License SDL needs confirmation, but BATCH is defined
>>> | ?
>>>
>>> I did try to run ?
>>>
>>> poudriere testport -j stable -c -i audio/logitechmediaserver
>>> poudriere testport -j stable -c -I audio/logitechmediaserver
>>>
>>> ? without success.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get that port packed by poudriere?
>>
>> Add
>> LICENSES_ACCEPTED=SDL
>> to /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf. You are still responsible for
>> following the license terms.
>
> Thank you very much! That did the trick.
>
> I am asking myself where should one look for such kind of information?
It's documented here:
<https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsLicenseInfrastructure>
It took me a long time to find this info when I needed it. I might have
come across it first by digging around in /usr/ports/Mk/*.
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Subject: Re: poudriere / logitechmediaserver: License SDL needs confirmation,
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On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Don Lewis <truckman@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 8 Oct, Michael Grimm wrote:
> > Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8 Oct, Michael Grimm wrote:
> >
> >>> as audio/squeezeboxserver has gone, I need to migrate to
> >>> audio/logitechmediaserver.
> >>>
> >>> But I am failing to get this port compiled by poudriere (3.2-pre):
> >>>
> >>> | ?
> >>> | ---End make.conf=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9D
> >>> | =3D=3D=3D=3D>> Ignoring audio/logitechmediaserver: License SDL =
needs
> confirmation, but BATCH is defined
> >>> | ?
> >>>
> >>> I did try to run ?
> >>>
> >>> poudriere testport -j stable -c -i audio/logitechmediaserver
> >>> poudriere testport -j stable -c -I audio/logitechmediaserver
> >>>
> >>> ? without success.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way to get that port packed by poudriere?
> >>
> >> Add
> >> LICENSES_ACCEPTED=3DSDL
> >> to /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf. You are still responsible fo=
r
> >> following the license terms.
> >
> > Thank you very much! That did the trick.
> >
> > I am asking myself where should one look for such kind of information?
>
> It's documented here:
> <https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsLicenseInfrastructure>
>
> It took me a long time to find this info when I needed it. I might have
> come across it first by digging around in /usr/ports/Mk/*.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
Trouble point is the wiki front page structure :
https://wiki.freebsd.org/FrontPage
It is necessary ( with respect to my opinion , obviously ) to design the
wiki just like a Handbook
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/
with its
"Table of Contents"
and always maintain that "Table of Contents" consistently when a new page
is added or deleted .
Otherwise , to find a page is requiring to "Know" it , but how it will be
known , is unknown .
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk