From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Oct 23 00:44:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21F0C13491 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from mail.skysmurf.nl (spectrum.skysmurf.nl [83.162.175.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.skysmurf.nl", Issuer "mail.skysmurf.nl" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F41ACDD for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from spectrum.skysmurf.nl (mail.skysmurf.nl [192.168.42.4]) by mail.skysmurf.nl (8.15.2/8.15.2) with SMTP id u9N0iB9W052263; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:44:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: by spectrum.skysmurf.nl (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:44:11 +0200 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:44:11 +0200 From: Alphons van Werven To: Mark Linimon Cc: andrew clarke , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted Message-ID: <20161023004411.GA50949@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> <20161022113104.GA9380@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <20161022161428.GA7234@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161022161428.GA7234@lonesome.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.skysmurf.nl/~fonz/fonz_pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:44:17 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark Linimon wrote: > Answering opposition/criticism with violence isn't exactly my style. I tend to take it as an indication that one has run out of rational arguments. Moreover, I think you'll find that the word you're looking for is . > It's not delusions of moral superiority. It's common decency. Decency is subject to personal and/or cultural opinion. Selectively suppressing matter that does not fit one's (moral, political, stylistic, religious, whatever) agenda *is* censorship. Simple as that. > There's no "censorship" if the FreeBSD developers make a collective > decision that they don't want to be associated with [snip derogative high horse description] > and that instead they would like to seem more welcoming to people that > don't look, think, and talk exactly like they do. Quite the opposite, in fact. If the FreeBSD developers make a collective decision that they don't want other people to be aware of software that isn't in line with exactly how they happen to look, think and talk, that's censorship. And it doesn't seem particularly welcoming to people with more liberal/relaxed attitudes than one's own. Fortunately, it's still possible to create one's own ports and to make the resulting packages available from one's own repositories. Therefore, I can't be bothered to be overly fussed when someone feels that FreeBSD ought to take a stance on morality. I find it unfortunate and think it's not the right way to go, but I'm accepting it and will gladly work around it, as is apparently necessary. Have a cookie, Fonz --=20 A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! I'm a prisoner in a Chinese fortune cookie factory. --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYDAfbAAoJEAfP7gJTaCe8ThYP/1HiyNf4lXTeA9hGxlL56rGk 2TCSbneZSNFYwhKoe4+Mu0CBK86WOpmlfufIrzOsvzcKiWARvDVmidXLG7tbp3RT R4hd7w7OfPDqdoN5zGyQdzLIJFGk7uJ6Qee4NeWfSFQghMQk/pAQtn12E4CVb+Cl U+4qnAGd0RDtzRgWt5eEUiAirNK55rjeUXdKIde3x6QeL1YBmK7nDBkaPRRjHcez qR0+mlMzul/qnxm8C2t17mxq+Lcp4FMG9Yt0EvOIiEL9STz9xdVG378i8lWyidQo NR9Z7Q5sbLS7zdX3TN87qhBFehym9wQjQ8S4Io4khn895U2StXQuNKpdMW/gW9qH zPvwvKkp1/A+Rfpv6wHEQZNehakpwwEDOyQRWnv/w12oerbdGzx7PjO3rtxaTMhq /ywM5IasFApNFUtlc6/g1PAs7m5NtxBwEH1bR2bkUDf4msAQAWNR0hyg2RHM728Z +tHu8mpK/ZAFweHOsh2PraNZPso/Q09XyOuY2FPupwP3B0ivGABawY6hvK5f8N/g Euhhodx3YfkQPcir2Ts1XembZJRUdssbfpWCpvvOHLbcdXhOEXAu7p7LN6LHHBTl bNQnyjIyFLlIJYyUEmKb1rokP3FfGSiGzRSY8HqqAb77LVwoTyerKlP9Jy2CrcUz O/szA4YseCzjh/pSatzK =dAMw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH--