From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 6 06:16:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D41A13443 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 06:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05502A88 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 06:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=sOlE0s3j+cjtCSKqMsOR8/dJKPVNEvuP9RnwGchE1C4=; b=FEeqoI855slHjazu2LDPhKOdtu pLiX5ndBi1dzhytZgk7FXxYg6PIBGgcPeTqYkAgtZPux73tMNMDGSMLpiwIzhGL41T9ncGLUu+FZh XfwEggM/mi+r4ewlh7AykLyAsFKFO9moU4TYY1ssg1wN9pDCu9Zc22grXQT3OzzZvmBg=; Received: from [114.121.158.217] (port=15990 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1acRAL-000RlC-HC; Sat, 05 Mar 2016 22:23:42 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:23:36 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Fernando =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Apestegu=EDa?= Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Span in the lists Message-ID: <20160306132336.777336d5@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 06:16:04 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:08:17 +0100 Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa wrote: > What happened in the last few hours regarding the lists? I received _a > lot of spam_ from freebsd-ports@ freebsd-questions@ and other lists. >=20 I receive some times hundred of spam mail claiming to come from the list but none actually comes from the list. Except the one above (D-SUB ...). My trick is that I use a different e-mail address for this list. All e-mails to this list not originating from freebsd.org are considered spam. This solves at least 99% of the problems but also deletes private messages sent by accident to this e-mail address. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 6 06:29:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F45AA93C05 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 06:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7002AB8 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 06:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 06:28:28 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1acSBA-0008l5-H0; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 06:28:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 06:28:36 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Erich Dollansky Cc: Fernando =?UTF-8?B?QXBlc3RlZ3XDrWE=?= , User Questions Subject: Re: Span in the lists Message-Id: <20160306062836.dace0e53a03e8d18a2c904b1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20160306132336.777336d5@X220.alogt.com> References: <20160306132336.777336d5@X220.alogt.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 06:29:38 -0000 On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:23:36 +0800 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:08:17 +0100 > Fernando Apesteguía wrote: > > > What happened in the last few hours regarding the lists? I received _a > > lot of spam_ from freebsd-ports@ freebsd-questions@ and other lists. > > > I receive some times hundred of spam mail claiming to come from the > list but none actually comes from the list. Except the one above > (D-SUB ...). My trick is that I use a different e-mail address for this > list. All e-mails to this list not originating from freebsd.org are > considered spam. This solves at least 99% of the problems but also > deletes private messages sent by accident to this e-mail address. Not just accidentally - common practice in the FreeBSD lists is to reply to all so if someone is replying to a thread in which you have posted you will get a mail to your address as well as to the list. The former you will classify as spam - incorrectly. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 6 12:27:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851EB9DA91F for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 12:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A19EFC for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 12:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 626449DA91D; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 12:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481229DA91B for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 12:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7328EFB for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 12:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l68so49974581wml.0 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 04:27:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KsUvRAAJh3MGKRVXHL/5BtSKd/QCHjAN+296inwR1JE=; b=ecpV/J3IeMVfau2b5B74uHB042lBlPtn1NGU9oXY9y0pzq1ZNl5Otp7KJ7inJeIxbh Met1QVjSSjyxv7HeB3e/8VNkmdU6VZ8gxhPG9z/Azku6OIPEmDBrw+bjx9TZx6tekKlK VTgTt00UBOUxickWiu1s95mloEg2vZNupW73/2LmD1f1CQC28S2hyOlXn8RJpAGUxt+e TEDYwDF0A3s75ErfVBXbucBg+LeO8mkSigMfAjnaCyCBJqCEyZg6uafeY7K3UVthQehw NqKj0NjQYksG7lBPCa32I+5qS88hQNIN9PDtH2boJeN0Yp6VjOdF6uAcYDviDUBSDnwl QzNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KsUvRAAJh3MGKRVXHL/5BtSKd/QCHjAN+296inwR1JE=; b=JiuH9a0koHKZqAny/BAVMBPsZ9TlaLK0l7mVMMSXa7kCy/gRYHrE/30OJq1ktXFXih sK3/0CyblIK8lbmGAQOk3+AD4Vy9fHKOgS1uZNtDk2hAnexmN8lZMFIiHAHO4rpTqGg6 zh1cUrGE+Bk9Jc73R4Omj1+uGoj6h38aJb4xW0KPAkCvGmEdk2fJ42ApAbXZe03am35x CppsryqMNF60Z6STUL2k50f5jRKBQMmAj24plBRFSra6kHDonAfSa3nAClUGmSTuvQoj 1IZVEYxeYFQT4c1viZINpE5wsXNN2sGVOe3jFHJViEzZjcbNHhCt6WCbCU1sIeGzeUvw DWFw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJK49QAbNtXKQyUHX0zthk5s1CJNsUfekK7JiJFSCMchbvNQt0eS7+09dQEwYJmI8IhSSXeoAMfCTxrhzw== X-Received: by 10.28.130.67 with SMTP id e64mr7932144wmd.6.1457267245111; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 04:27:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.246.73 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 04:27:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:27:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 10.2-RELEASE to 10.3-BETA1 To: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQotC40LzQvtGE0LjQtdCy?= Cc: FreeBSD-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 12:27:27 -0000 2016-02-09 15:07 GMT+02:00 =D0=92=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B8=D1=80= =D0=A2=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=84=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=B2 : > # uname -a > FreeBSD F3ja 10.3-BETA1 FreeBSD 10.3-BETA1 #0 r295289: Fri Feb 5 > 02:50:53 UTC 2016 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386[/code] > > dmesg: > random device not loaded; using insecure entropy > ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Incorrect checksum in table [TCPA] - 0x00, > should be 0x56 (20150515/tbprint-228) > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > random: initialized > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0xc0fca5c0, 0) error 19[/code] > > #dmesg|grep -i random > random: initialized > random: unblocking device. > random device not loaded; using insecure entropy > random: initialized > random: unblocking device. > random device not loaded; using insecure entropy > random: initialized > random: unblocking device. > > > What does this mean and how to correct the mistake? https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2016-February/084145.htm= l o The initialization of random(9) has been adjusted so it is usable earlier. This fixes the "random device not loaded; using insecure entropy" message output during boot on some systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 6 13:46:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7802DAB9D67 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S14.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s14.hotmail.com [65.55.111.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22DAA951 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP2 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S14.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sun, 6 Mar 2016 05:45:31 -0800 X-TMN: [qI97M6KNGVk84EvyjRBbekrHuPOPUHb2] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 08:45:06 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Combining SSL certificates Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2016 13:45:30.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[73200C30:01D177AE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 13:46:39 -0000 If I want to combine multiple SSL certificates for one site into one "PEM" file, would the correct order be: 1) Site certificate 2) Intermediate Certificate 3) Root certificate I was told it make a difference in what order they are placed in one file. Is there anything else I should do, other than running "c_rehash" on the new file? -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 6 18:05:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2D1AB649C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35859197 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from titania.midsummerdream.org ([107.197.157.90]) by p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Si4M1s0041xJNYB01i4NQv; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 11:04:22 -0700 X-Sender: oberon@midsummerdream.org Subject: Re: zfs mounted filesystem doesn't show up Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Rob Rati In-Reply-To: <56D9A9D6.6050707@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:04:21 -0500 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <56D9A9D6.6050707@FreeBSD.org> To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:05:59 -0000 No, I'm not using -u in receive. Here's the command I use to receive: /sbin/zfs recv -F -d pool To send, I'm doing a /sbin/zfs send -i Result of zfs get mounted... command is the same before and after I remount. before: NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE pool/host/root mounted yes - pool/host/root canmount on default pool/host/root mountpoint /pool/host/root default after: NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE pool/host/root mounted yes - pool/host/root canmount on default pool/host/root mountpoint /pool/host/root default I'm not using jails. Rob On Mar 4, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2016/03/04 13:55, Rob Rati wrote: >> I have 2 systems running zfs, and one back up to the other by taking >> a snapshot and sending it to the other. The data and snapshot >> information all appear in the 2nd system, but the directories aren't >> accessible from the command line despite being mounted. If I do a >> mount I see this: >> >> pool/host/root on /pool/host/root (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) >> >> But I can't list or cd into /pool/host/root. However, if I zfs >> umount /pool/host/root then zfs mount /pool/host/root everything is >> fine and I can see the data. This seems to be occurring every time >> the first system backs up to the second. > > Are you by any chance using the -u flag for zfs receive ? Probably not, > but it's best to rule out the simple things... > > What exactly are the commands you're issuing to do the whole zfs send > ... | zfs receive ... process? What's the result of: > > zfs get mounted,canmount,mountpoint zroot/whatever > > both on the freshly received (inaccessible) copy of the zfs and after > you've remounted it? Are there jails involved here, and are you doing > anything with the zfs jailed property? > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 6 22:51:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA0CAC26B2 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 22:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E493ADA7 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 22:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=7T+0EnuQlaGdHReXB/JJ8d293XAyK+1I3KeInoE5KGo=; b=n7kyUmH4GnEyUMg03INWc2ntvs n+zkvfq+afFba0Oja55r3RQIIBzvyMyqMn8fMyUXeWA/NKN9nHnl9EpA6XR4i6I9T0cpLBBrdD0it Ft7mZDgrvwwdsna78zhDcsKDwq7Zs7MsU2q54AQnwNQITOCITSSIVPvvoVDu1lD+nYpk=; Received: from [114.124.24.67] (port=57499 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1achVp-004N79-8b; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 15:50:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 06:50:53 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Fernando =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Apestegu=EDa?= , User Questions Subject: Re: Span in the lists Message-ID: <20160307065053.2c7efdae@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20160306062836.dace0e53a03e8d18a2c904b1@sohara.org> References: <20160306132336.777336d5@X220.alogt.com> <20160306062836.dace0e53a03e8d18a2c904b1@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 22:51:00 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 06:28:36 +0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:23:36 +0800 > Erich Dollansky wrote: >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:08:17 +0100 > > Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa wrote: > > =20 > > > What happened in the last few hours regarding the lists? I > > > received _a lot of spam_ from freebsd-ports@ freebsd-questions@ > > > and other lists.=20 > > I receive some times hundred of spam mail claiming to come from the > > list but none actually comes from the list. Except the one above > > (D-SUB ...). My trick is that I use a different e-mail address for > > this list. All e-mails to this list not originating from > > freebsd.org are considered spam. This solves at least 99% of the > > problems but also deletes private messages sent by accident to this > > e-mail address. =20 >=20 > Not just accidentally - common practice in the FreeBSD lists > is to reply to all so if someone is replying to a thread in which you > have posted you will get a mail to your address as well as to the > list. The former you will classify as spam - incorrectly. >=20 as the mail will come twice, the copy can be still considered as spam as it is double. But the filter is done so that the copy lands in the proper FreeBSD folder. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 7 15:55:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB73AC30F9 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 15:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbb@hipinspire.co) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7BE0368 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 15:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbb@hipinspire.co) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id l68so114290328wml.0 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 07:55:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hipinspire-co.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=S9d9ES+FQaj2thOZ+TY2AxNYg72z8ILFseYxcxir9BI=; b=FJM4ybUxUxS6+tS54a4OUDrAsLfueD9ZUlP3OLIKHmofjHA12AGDCcviPYweay52O9 kmrmfzQxd8DBhHdR9GpLN1dvkzsBFOty+FPVlBob6M8KAFgbZfzpv4X2gbo2ibAjj2C/ YudVoqrUX5buX5irvMm6ISHiwc3H5f2LO8zgfI5troZLJk32Ai9cW2zKBgBU5jGaqHp8 KBFi11yaNMN62ww98Li/d892fhfjf3PjMSJwlH4AHYEEXJB3SxS4uYVMCnFTuPEsTFGs qzSQWwLQlJgdHMTb1FvLAKeVqddGPDu/hEGsejiNotmtfxoQYRVDgt2+P2WmsWsvlpip gGYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=S9d9ES+FQaj2thOZ+TY2AxNYg72z8ILFseYxcxir9BI=; b=UXUGZYiXUyz1uJKFy2sp3wh5pz1kmT5CG2iugffIjEQpO9JilhfgtERppo/sCe1/Nd QG+98ULvlm+ZMkTqnz6gPvh6d4G962Asq1SYtrFMT7aS2pJYwN3ZB8mI7PjxXsfI/Bjt B54MKdFAorzUvnR1QnKnBjuyVtxHtJ5Qk9Ff1lTooAMuYp7O5znETpbml3i6e2nW1wY/ HsbKL1VQtW20w5wXXJx3gK3Zmw7hLKXB9pp/CE3E628GIpcuS2tcEPbCUM15LQsWlwe1 161mvdhjxJg80/Dl47Ev05z+7Ndn1JGROIPPvswAJScaS+c9D/aYJffwMqmCLrf1md9t WEdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIWNuqLQEYzKNeZoI/pOpFenUc2169htNu7r9p8ICevGRgx87w4bmi5CPZ+uSvhL/yMmSd1vt+tx7h5eg== X-Received: by 10.194.175.33 with SMTP id bx1mr23663750wjc.104.1457366146116; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 07:55:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.94.131 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:55:26 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: mb@hipinspire.com From: Marko Bijelic Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:55:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Amazing Web and UI Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:55:48 -0000 Hi FreeBSD, I am experienced web and UI designer looking for contract or full-time work at your company. Some examples of software websites I did: http://www.results.com http://www.voogla.com http://www.priceapi.com http://www.supersaas.com http://www.zadarastorage.com UI examples http://icelandingpagedesign.com/portfolio/ Drop me a line, Marko From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 7 19:17:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D75AC2304 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x231.google.com (mail-yw0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44F0E6DE for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x231.google.com with SMTP id g3so45141154ywa.3 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:17:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dMEYMZkZ2mXJjUId/GsMTpt9nBFrsH5y18rxPfFPOfA=; b=zShP9L5i8y6Uxdy5oXX1WLfoCsX2vXWknaKW+5ZOTcY8YuJ/GwrVVR15as4LK+szHi yJKPq7v6HvfZNUNEYyBgx5KXAZjQQsqmnTFgLUbBtkir2Az/2D8TkenmQLe1qDSnXJ52 Y9FgFQ0A3lbozEJyiAIOLZGuuvNBK+VJUgXL00Uvt9qLcW1FLHQi3IStXF2JZXm1016Y ygsMyM08FzGeZFBw5WPGUQGnLpiXEJOlnSkq30cyLAzekod2sVTNIFu0CX1bGXvUBBKr QgMQBYbTmw9GKlkUtwEzUYnsJ15XSH7cTKkVhfDSMdtvnjVxbBfNU+9yJZFnYHMN1srT 8Dag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dMEYMZkZ2mXJjUId/GsMTpt9nBFrsH5y18rxPfFPOfA=; b=E0HK/34nBfX1fOf4ieK6aMggXkzl95o3t9SmEQfnZ4ftcEa3ldaeokRl2gjQJgxYBt CEuA20m0SOQsrvSoUnMQ3S8vYfATOBZitJmXpgtaFnk+rYObu8xiSHcaTUCHbYFtVs5/ c1r/QqbZS4fbvZi8z7B173NUFd14X+WM3Kz3kJkqn0d3IHUfc8V3qlAzEPec+CPTjlbi gINeuC/ps2Kr1NosC5A/aA9WnmIMqKzr0T2mDykEt+KIqVkPE8Uvf1ZWb/zHasxpZ7w6 zYmKz3Tbn78yRWeQUgjlF3TRMUXFeOSSVlorRevVcTyRrfjTs9cklkLGbVywpfnr6nG/ ocZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLwvepD6S8S/lszPsAYiTMb5Ck4LVfZu4wDSZjNpvxNCjojeQxWlpjUcdRev2bBbw== X-Received: by 10.129.114.194 with SMTP id n185mr13065253ywc.292.1457378266456; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.27.26] (mail.casano.com. [98.109.205.15]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a65sm12746452ywg.38.2016.03.07.11.17.44 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:17:45 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William F. Dudley Jr." Subject: freebsd-update just broke ssh. How do I fix this? Message-ID: <56DDD3D8.8040604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:17:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 19:17:47 -0000 I did a freebsd-update fetch and install on a 9.3 system, and it replaced all the openssh stuff with new stuff. Now ssh is totally broken. (core dump when attempting to ssh out, ssh in gets "connection closed". Now what? uname -a FreeBSD dudley 9.3-RELEASE-p33 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p33 #0: Thu Jan 14 00:48:15 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 ssh -V OpenSSH_6.6.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8zh-freebsd 3 Dec 2015 ssh django Memory fault (core dumped) which ssh /usr/bin/ssh Thanks, Bill Dudley From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 7 21:34:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F177AC370E for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 21:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.70.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D392E6E9 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F85A552BF for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 21:33:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cpc89374-jarr11-2-0-cust348.16-2.cable.virginm.net (HELO amd.asgard.uk) (82.13.141.93) (smtp-auth username dave%pop3.dgmm.net, mechanism plain) by outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:33:14 +0000 From: Dave To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating Samba on new server. Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: <3978940.LkNyhFjaqX@amd.asgard.uk> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/9.3-RELEASE-p33; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <56CC5551.7080202@my.hennepintech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Gradwell-MongoId: 56ddf39a.2c5c-8bb-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: dave@pop3.dgmm.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:34:12 -0000 On Tuesday 23 February 2016 08:20:15 Carmel wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 06:49:21 -0600, Andrew Berg stated: > > > There is actually not a ton of configuration difference between Samba > > 3 and 4 until you start doing things that are new to Samba 4. I > > wasted so much time looking for what was different and how to adjust > > until I stumbled across a mailing list post from one of the > > developers basically saying the configurations are the same. YMMV, > > but I was up and running with little, if any, change to my config. > > Start with your existing configuration, test, and change as needed. > > That is how I am going to proceed. I really wish that "SWAT" had not > been removed from the distribution. I found it immensely useful. > > Have you looked at the samba module in webmin? I've no idea if it works with Samba4, I'm still on Samba3 too. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 7 22:14:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA81AC76B3 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 22:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A19DBD65 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 22:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id l68so4153844wml.1 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 14:14:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=iA3WX8/+qCzugUwg/cRFpy5xpFkEIG4zDix8zjieMw4=; b=N+iwGUg2TIsWped/RFB2UwWrD6HEBn/M7anqusqWGPQc+VGuBwKw077bPZ2RpxLYqq fpA+ZDLMBr+gloKsAV42bmUeOqKsMAMJ4PUnjCmoXPq+EpxmRHqCsKxYHPvDuzHWg9Az n24bVjWATACdPFY2RjfxDzyTzF8PV8ioXuJLj0P9WndSP+qIjZ+FKXxxvJ3RGJV/4ZsD 0jYCQ32QEY00gPZv3aUFOQFskXQWBM2jQqi2umU2yVh+2NRnFZHNDeX48JyGy1q8SHlD 3tg0cyPuHF1hQnUru+Ezwq/V4hiQbATWH1kY+mjgb3gJjskvyOst+Vtw0GGvb1cW+4K2 pqNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=iA3WX8/+qCzugUwg/cRFpy5xpFkEIG4zDix8zjieMw4=; b=RUkm/SdOkwcnSLTevuXl6Uc79/P7IudFtICx+nu0D7SdTt/wWXELLbV0pPeMXzm8Rw HNYlKHusEXansvdljYbaW0Wini93Z5Iu1+z6jW5cJ8NC6+nqOnewzy59b+KjPAarnEYH ZpABRAdFxePOJnfMWAYJLEHR2Xa2HZw1/BXLGorH3njRg6wM3EnNWsIcUciR07K8UNAR ImFX4m12wOR5XrSUZHIYMd8JFVDKc7GFAf0aZZ6EYPlUqanpGsBAlRRGoVjzCVSBszJ7 wsHuz+89YLk1aY6ofANQXJeJ+P2HoRRXBhp7Oi8eFme4zRaExL8hzFfYlmr81BsE3jVF mogg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJm4SlLnc3y1He5FsrNt+rvFYFXW9+ZuPN/7T09Hmm2SlxlfwmJRFlokEf3YqyjIqIMlAJGwai7b2BGeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.129.213 with SMTP id c204mr1794271wmd.89.1457388852996; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 14:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.23.70 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:14:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 23:14:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Amazing Web and UI Design From: Murk Fletcher To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:14:16 -0000 Please don't spam this list. All the best, Murk http://www.siegelgale.com/ On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Murk Fletcher wrote: > Please don't spam this list. > > All the best, > Murk > http://www.siegelgale.com/ > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Marko Bijelic wrote: > >> Hi FreeBSD, >> >> I am experienced web and UI designer looking for contract or full-time >> work at your company. 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From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 00:04:58 -0000 Hi all, I was intrigued when I noticed an mfsBSD disk image did not have /dev/random and decided to check the distribution from which the image was installed. dev/ existed only in base.txz and as an empty directory. Does this mean /dev/random is created on boot? /etc/rc.d/random exists as a typical start script, but doesn't appear to test the existent, much less create, /dev/random. Section 5.12, Random Number Generator of the D&I of FreeBSD, while it touched on /dev/random, didn't describe when or how it is created. So, at what point does /dev/random get created when it doesn't exist? -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 8 00:23:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C463AC338A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from mail.lafn.org (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1597B12B3 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (unknown [10.0.1.12]) by mail.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BD95114C32B; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:23:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:23:40 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 00:23:48 -0000 > On 5 March 2016, at 09:17, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:58:20 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I am running a number of 9.3 systems and am planning the next >> system update for them. As my client schedules have evolved, >> it now turns out that about the only time I will be able to >> bring them down for an update will be in June 2016. I suspect >> the next available time will be in June 2017. >=20 > Your maintenance schedule is out of sync with the FreeBSD release > schedule. :-) Yes - but unfortunately I would have to change the schedules for a = number of schools to change my maintenance schedule. I don't see that = happening in the foreseeable future. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> The release schedules indicate that 10.3 will be out by this >> June but 11.0 will not. Back when 10.0 arrived, I decided to >> skip it as there were issues that would require rework of my >> applications both for 10 and then again for 11. Unfortunately, >> I didn't bother to document those and my memory of the specific >> issues is long gone. >=20 > In this case, there's a nice mechanism that let's you keep your > installed applications running without modification: Install the > compatibility packages (compat9x-[i386|amd64] on 10, and similarly > on 11). But be careful: It doesn't work all the time! Testing is > required. And as soon as you start upgrading installed applications, > the _real_ will start. :-) >=20 > A new installation on a test system, with a snapshot of the data > required, and with configuration altered as needed, usually is the > most comfortable way to deal with it. If everything works as intended, > it's easy to switch over from 9.3 to 10.3 during the maintenance > period. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> So I am trying to decide to upgrade to 10.3 this year or wait till >> next for 11.0.=20 >=20 > That would leave you with 9.3 being out of support for some time. > Security updates won't be backported, so in worst case, you'd have > to do it yourself (if relevant and urgently required). In such a > case, read the security and announcement mailing lists, and check > the security audits for all your installed applications. Yes it would be unsupported, but it would still be the same system it is = today and functioning properly. By and large the security updates have = not affected what I have running. I have been running since FreeBSD = 2.7. I don't see that as a big issue. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Is there anywhere a listing of the high level changes from 9 to >> 10 to 11? I know about the switch from GCC to Clang but that's >> all I remember. >=20 > During FreeBSD 9, the transition to pkg and the changes in the ports > architecture happened, but with 9.3, you're probably already using > the current versions. >=20 > You can find more information here: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.3R/schedule.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/schedule.html What I was hoping to find was some form of informal, preliminary version = of the release notes or announcements for 10.3 and 11. I seem to recall = some sort of discussion of that back when the decision was made to drop = bind from the base. I wasn't able to find it though. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... =E2=80=94 Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 8 00:39:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B0BAC3B53 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com (mail-lb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B61E31D5D for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lb0-x236.google.com with SMTP id k15so150968525lbg.0 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:39:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=sUaHw6bVEhc58rGDte8tCyFDlueJfAY/RZvbbxKD9nM=; b=RwAUZZJ/QnlwZZXNszngg3Cyx8mlk586Rd6WuSw+28Bs0D281lEYE/ySLd8ROzHT3q jHd43sV6kVAgkuv6XZOjza34Sk1AeADzgvx5MhmoPLtpasPcjm0/Uw1pGBjTHWfXpV1T H78OCDVZAlnZ9oj3MrNdkQdOgCwwafp7NoGo43JgzpLWpB5sD1v8lLNYzNdUUl+p9oQ3 ymYon3VBHRcMlOh22gXKtYTqOyOyGoTo71c37FsB2ePmfkoiFlT8GoyJhjSEkud1sw+d 8+B9EEsmZ5ThI0VWnveNDb04ig6mALFy/PQk/OzEX5131X1OcpNivEpviwlP8/FQHLIy k5dA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=sUaHw6bVEhc58rGDte8tCyFDlueJfAY/RZvbbxKD9nM=; b=Uf2KwToz06Sm7njMyLzCxV5TjHXTK0MIPYW3uEZL7Jor52LzEA/v3teCmBR1F+iOeZ PncbZb0GpttCQh/aAblCmKEAvJwi9ZPMwVDbJ6OdMI2rqVhrNMMhYY5v2cufsttyFVpB E7l6yMELUnheEVA2qQoqlBmYT576UH65Gj6XLXZlAlYHdRokzbd6kuH7l7EMNrH9/FZk 0lSUUZRPw4hkOmpgCNV+4iVdOrqqS6so5ZNlaQ3WExTQicL5dl8cMra2oceGKhOX2w5x p4BrvgD3EqNpFnbSlJWKvRM64Y0u4LdbAtuyE0Q6C6FhmrpKrhypc0KCNe/7Ordybzqe yrMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIWX7wiPqzh6jiteeaG2XmN8a8HQDlNEiEmhba5jyRv7A4rwB4YBVnnMe+5xPzKPhL7yOKFlQSDvi7dUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.16.207 with SMTP id 76mr9239086lfq.133.1457397571662; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.79.145 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:39:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56DDD3D8.8040604@gmail.com> References: <56DDD3D8.8040604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:39:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update just broke ssh. How do I fix this? From: William Dudley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 00:39:35 -0000 In answer to my own question: 1. a bug has been filed (by someone else): https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=207783 2. sudo freebsd-update rollback restores the old openssh, which has security problems, but "works". Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:17 PM, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote: > I did a freebsd-update fetch and install on a 9.3 system, and it replaced > all the openssh stuff with > new stuff. Now ssh is totally broken. (core dump when attempting to ssh > out, ssh in gets "connection > closed". Now what? > > uname -a > FreeBSD dudley 9.3-RELEASE-p33 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p33 #0: Thu Jan 14 > 00:48:15 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 > > ssh -V > OpenSSH_6.6.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8zh-freebsd 3 Dec 2015 > > ssh django > Memory fault (core dumped) > > which ssh > /usr/bin/ssh > > Thanks, > Bill Dudley > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 8 01:10:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FFBAC7869 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 01:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC24F849 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 01:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 257E027666; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 02:10:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u281Abj6003154; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 02:10:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 02:10:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Rick Miller Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: When is /dev/random created? Message-Id: <20160308021037.84bd0d21.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 01:10:48 -0000 On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:04:57 -0500, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi all, > > I was intrigued when I noticed an mfsBSD disk image did not have > /dev/random and decided to check the distribution from which the image was > installed. dev/ existed only in base.txz and as an empty directory. That's correct. /dev is a mountpoint for a virtual file system for the device files. Example output from the "mount -v" command: devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) So when devfs is started, /dev gets populated. > Does this mean /dev/random is created on boot? Yes. The whole /dev content is under management of devfs (and devd). > /etc/rc.d/random exists as > a typical start script, but doesn't appear to test the existent, much less > create, /dev/random. It contains the following sequence in the feed_dev_random() function: cat "${1}" | dd of=/dev/random bs=8k 2>/dev/null So this one creates /dev/random if it doesn't already exist. However, I think the devfs initialization already makes sure the device file exists. The magic should be located somewhere in the kernel virtual file system sources... > Section 5.12, Random Number Generator of the D&I of FreeBSD, while it > touched on /dev/random, didn't describe when or how it is created. > > So, at what point does /dev/random get created when it doesn't exist? When /etc/rc.d/random is executed. The function random_start() tests for write access to /dev/random: if [ -w /dev/random ]; then and then feeds it: feed_dev_random "${seedfile}" where the called function would perform cat "${1}" | dd of=/dev/random bs=8k 2>/dev/null As mentioned, that would create /dev/random, but the test of -w already implies that it exists (-w = exists and can be written to). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 8 08:23:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E626AC12C7 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22d.google.com (mail-vk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48AC4BAE for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id e6so8484035vkh.2 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 00:23:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=PSp5V3B351XD8sMo8MhG3cO36NbL6+ccGRB0gxy7xl8=; b=Itx0O+xEgfzEedva/wsASm9ZN0n4jw2CgjESKWZJAkD65+H58b4gRykY2OGHsUGYfH K32y3PoY3RVSecSiQ84UiIjncq0lY6xLNiLeEawXbYcrrfI+Nq6lEePUgwn9dh/r78RT rHnNHdwBxIBaJu+zcuPpUT1UEl7NFEeHHnm4GdWXGbmrVgGA2x/eJOFyTt5ZEqjuss7M sH4sD+6OsdY0diZD80iSYUfmmdRC58fHnJqvXF3axr0KcQEbDR0olKqYGE61HhD17N99 CzYEGf+wBIjE9WfjHRcpfFwvm3zeF4a1ThSeQaNWnC6nnQOb7i+Rc42bW1NQpQoSnpRM jeGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=PSp5V3B351XD8sMo8MhG3cO36NbL6+ccGRB0gxy7xl8=; b=HTgM2n0if/fuKOVMozv+Hi3CTSjSdt5seRtnPsTpXZ62knD8U790ASuTV8CWAot63x Px7dzJQqZEXbF5C6kTglojbOz041q68Clj066m+yH0KJ0upaqqD0g5bQNTHAyjknacgg fkJZVY1Z0DSE9XKSskPuEZjTDR1JQfJN5dHeFqDCkdCXyHi2fx5dXrNH/8zgX1/WQMtj rkiN3CXCTNJnevwvnhkaGMlcQQ3I3O9j0P5yw91n6fTg1R4Dy1OQJ8wTyreI3yOvx1nU P4O4RecqCVegL0s4vmoz3ZaIAu138ueplDOsrYNShc3LnQd7QQNZB/Q74Qx9dbrqx86I Wa1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJKZoEvf0B6Gceh93nOGyfS2YAfoXZue5nO7e57Fjn6q5YHWWFcRmsUTdaW5zbL5DeZTIWlVTRYhRsmvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.6.130 with SMTP id 124mr20207334vkg.106.1457425402098; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 00:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.174.132 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:23:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160302215421.53c9a7be.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20160302215421.53c9a7be.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:23:21 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: is there a secure store associated with user? From: Sergei G To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:23:23 -0000 My co-worker and I have discussed the issue of protecting sensitive data on Windows with DPAPI vs Linux world. MS DPAPI is secure, because it relies on user's password to encrypt user's data store. However, when windows services are involved, windows service control manager (SCM) needs to store user's password, so it can unlock DPAPI store when it starts the service. Thus, Windows OS has to store a form of user's password somewhere... (Windows AD security is excluded from this picture). Our goal is to apply defense in depth and in this case it is a protection of CONTENT of a file in case it was downloaded by an attacker. Standard ACL solution does not work, because www user by definition has access to a file's content to be able to work with (load it into application memory). The file is not meant to be served, but it may be serviced due to a vulnerability or misconfiguration. That's the scenario that we are defending against. ... One solution could be the deployment of a "security service" providing data over a Unix file socket. The "security service" simply returns password to the application and application decrypts sensitive data on the fly or uses this password to establish DB connection. A direct download of file's content would not result in sensitive data exposure. The compromise is only possible if attacker gains ability to execute arbitrary code as www user and instructs system to connect to "security service". The same is true to DPAPI protection. If attacker can execute arbitrary code as a service user, then he or she can return originally protected data in plain text form. In some way this is similar to WSC-DPAPI at the conceptual level. WSC knows the user's password, unlocks user's store and starts application with user's context. This "security service" plays a similar 3rd party role of knowing the password and returning it. Unfortunately, some form of application ACL is necessary in this case. Does it make any sense? Is it too much protection for the payoff? Does something like this exist today? This is not an active project for me, but it is an important issue to wrap my mind around. Thank you On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:45:10 -0800, Sergei G wrote: > > I am looking for FreeBSD (and Linux) equivalent of DP API in windows. For > > example, windows service has access to a secure data store associated > with > > user account. When I register service I enter service user id and > password > > and that password unlocks user store. > > This can be done using regular user:group permissions. Let's say > you run the service under a specific user "service" ; let's > furthermore say that Bob's user data is owned by bob:bob. Then > you just have to make user "service" a member of the group "bob" > and set the file attributes to rw-/r--/---, for example: user > can read and write, service can only read, nobody else can do > anything. > > In this case, the password of Bob doesn't even have to be known > to the service. Locking and unlocking is a matter of group > menbership. This is controlled by the system administrator. > > Oh, and an additional approach is using ACLs. Here, the user > himself can "unlock" things easily, if desired. > > There are probably many other ways that make such a way of access > control possible. > > > > > Is there something like that in Unix > > world? > > Yes, somehow. :-) > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 8 09:15:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9701CAC2DA0 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36945DDF for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B764B2769F; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:15:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u289FZ89003041; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:15:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:15:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Sergei G Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: is there a secure store associated with user? Message-Id: <20160308101535.d191de76.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20160302215421.53c9a7be.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:15:40 -0000 First of all, thanks for describing your requirements more precisely. As it seems, using standard permissions or ACLs is not going to work for you. But allow me to throw in some further thoughts. On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:23:21 -0800, Sergei G wrote: > MS DPAPI is secure, because it relies on user's password to encrypt user's > data store. However, when windows services are involved, windows service > control manager (SCM) needs to store user's password, so it can unlock > DPAPI store when it starts the service. This somehow invalidates your first sentence. Is the password known to the service in plain text? Is it _stored_ in plain text? Or does the service store something like a hash or somehow encrypted password, and just checks "crypted vs. crypted" instead of "plain vs. plain" after decrypt? I won't go into detail about my feelings considering the idea that a closed source product licensed from an NSA strategic partner can be regarded "secure" - forgive my tinfoilhatness. ;-) > Thus, Windows OS has to store a > form of user's password somewhere... Exactly - this is one entity knowing the "keys to the kingdom" you cannot trust. There are good and bad ways how to deal with passwords. The best way is to not store them at all, the worst way is to store them in plaintext. > Our goal is to apply defense in depth and in this case it is a protection > of CONTENT of a file in case it was downloaded by an attacker. Standard > ACL solution does not work, because www user by definition has access to a > file's content to be able to work with (load it into application memory). > The file is not meant to be served, but it may be serviced due to a > vulnerability or misconfiguration. That's the scenario that we are > defending against. Now I understand. You'd still encounter the problem that an attacker will retrieve the data at a stage where it is _not_ encrypted, and there definitely is such a stage, i.e., when the data is going to be used (read or written). I have something in mind which might not be a solution for you, but could help develop further ideas: Imagine the data is stored in a disk image. This image is encrypted, so if the attacker gets the image, it's of no value. This image is being mounted (read only or read/write, as needed) and decrypted "through" a trusted "access layer". Modifications can only happen at that time. After use, the image is unmounted and therefore encrypted again. I'm obviously talking about a file system image plus some kind of PGP layer. I think it is possible to implement this with "SSH + NFS", or somehow "mount + PGP"... > One solution could be the deployment of a "security service" providing data > over a Unix file socket. The "security service" simply returns password to > the application and application decrypts sensitive data on the fly or uses > this password to establish DB connection. A direct download of file's > content would not result in sensitive data exposure. That would be possible, but again involves the knowledge of the password (plain?) to possibly untrusted instances. > The compromise is only possible if attacker gains ability to execute > arbitrary code as www user and instructs system to connect to "security > service". The same is true to DPAPI protection. If attacker can execute > arbitrary code as a service user, then he or she can return originally > protected data in plain text form. Being able to execute untrusted code basically is GAME OVER, especially when running with non-trivial system privilege. It would require that the associated user (corresponding to the service) is only allowed to execute _one_ verified binary image. > In some way this is similar to WSC-DPAPI at the conceptual level. WSC > knows the user's password, unlocks user's store and starts application with > user's context. This "security service" plays a similar 3rd party role of > knowing the password and returning it. Unfortunately, some form of > application ACL is necessary in this case. Again, too much "know the password" is involved here. But maybe this is inevitable for the setting you're describing. In that case, it would sound possible to implement something like this in Linux or UNIX. I don't know of a particular program which does this, but I'd say it's more or less trivial: When access to a file is requested which is under "user password control", the service decrypts the file (knowing the required password), and upon close(), re-encrypts it again. > Does it make any sense? Is it too much protection for the payoff? It's an additional means of security, but no "one size cures all" approach. Just given the password is "password", "12345", or "correcthorsebatterystaple", a quick dictionary-based attack on an extracted encrypted file will reveal the content - and will confirm that this password is valid for _other_ files associated with that user... > Does something like this exist today? Not that I'm aware of, but still possible. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 8 16:27:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47CCAC822A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@buildingonline.com) Received: from alisocreek.buildingonline.net (alisocreek.buildingonline.net [204.109.62.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE2C7C2 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@buildingonline.com) Received: by alisocreek.buildingonline.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id D285D992A98; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:20:33 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on alisocreek.buildingonline.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from Whistler.local (unknown [69.51.79.5]) (Authenticated sender: dan@dpcsys.com) by alisocreek.buildingonline.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 947EC991B23 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:20:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: freebsd-update just broke ssh. How do I fix this? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56DDD3D8.8040604@gmail.com> From: Dan Busarow Organization: BuildingOnline.com Message-ID: <56DEFBCF.8050305@buildingonline.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:20:31 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:27:04 -0000 On 3/7/16 5:39 PM, William Dudley wrote: > In answer to my own question: > > 1. a bug has been filed (by someone else): > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=207783 > > 2. sudo freebsd-update rollback restores the old openssh, which > has security problems, but "works". I just want to confirm Bill's report. I had seen his post yesterday and when I got the notice that there was an update this morning I held off upding all of my boxes. I tested by running freebsd-update install on a 9.3-RELEASEp33 system. After completing the install I could no longer ssh into the box. I tried rebooting just in case but that did not help. As Bill said, freebsd-update rollback got the old ssh reinstalled and I'm able to ssh into the box again. Dan > > Bill Dudley > > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:17 PM, William F. Dudley Jr. > wrote: > >> I did a freebsd-update fetch and install on a 9.3 system, and it replaced >> all the openssh stuff with >> new stuff. Now ssh is totally broken. (core dump when attempting to ssh >> out, ssh in gets "connection >> closed". Now what? >> >> uname -a >> FreeBSD dudley 9.3-RELEASE-p33 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p33 #0: Thu Jan 14 >> 00:48:15 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> i386 >> >> ssh -V >> OpenSSH_6.6.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8zh-freebsd 3 Dec 2015 >> >> ssh django >> Memory fault (core dumped) >> >> which ssh >> /usr/bin/ssh >> >> Thanks, >> Bill Dudley >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 8 17:30:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB26AC7DE3 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thelostadmin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9BF81303 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thelostadmin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id ig19so57251201igb.0 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:30:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=SPXuviSSJD2UNVtVMSrXRJSlZgRTbNOsCkv1WumT4Bs=; b=lHAJ9bUYLJglDKg78navzAPD3HMGNwYXakfoO0azvtBPuHyB6sgZYrF9WRuA+HOEY/ i5yfqIJHXA0dncWv+koZ7WNDQHmyfxwn3/Ty9K9d+kDJhYoZ78wVUpHdGQJL5wqrw3R7 btMBux9hDx/kyCHiHNSHA8CwaJ0AH95Rkg5Nzqsmpox+aaoWGHGVby1kXTY5J4qTujH7 oxJoOFjgvraoMzheVEdQUOSq48Vl09E/lqJMXNvy55SvTJfp8ExFS4jedGS/XDmSELKe fIjFuT3EZh7h2Onm+hnoxO/wBZ3qTzX9sUQrnktFTWIj4XIkBazhDa86C5+mfhDYnLMO ZrCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=SPXuviSSJD2UNVtVMSrXRJSlZgRTbNOsCkv1WumT4Bs=; b=Bht0jPsvHkdPKLZQLuP7zNEl0sivMEMy5F0pTw5Eh5r8loAzlxPpRzaWxJKs6Emhe3 haqbqzE1Im6TGJk3dBWqDYsq97ckaAiSFNXj6eG0erwewFYARmD1l2RskbPo0Vt2JcUE UCBKBjkDAtmiQVMQhrKYRyX+ZhYMWeEvmIoStrUfYWuzds9FBtrJnzNq7FT5tgC9DPCS Z+bgZuKj8bhIitjQSC7TwSzCR40pQE3i/HacYTsY5360i1FepPq7jtbIf0mWxG+xhR+r YRV2yxNV7fCRA1YtSPEZNywTP3W00KGUfUbYXUmWc1v5M/ha0SzVuwk74fnKU9yb+9pT QIkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJi+ClQuQzK016dLNLh6LPUR3CmycW1qv8SrR9cxGG2nn/lvknzXm7eg6V2+V7iOg== X-Received: by 10.50.43.134 with SMTP id w6mr18623495igl.22.1457458219760; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from imac.suntrap.ca ([45.72.133.64]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 65sm657667ioq.43.2016.03.08.09.30.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:30:19 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: is there a secure store associated with user? From: The Lost Admin In-Reply-To: <20160308101535.d191de76.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:30:17 -0500 Cc: Sergei G , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-Id: References: <20160302215421.53c9a7be.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160308101535.d191de76.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:30:22 -0000 > On Mar 8, 2016, at 4:15 AM, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > First of all, thanks for describing your requirements more precisely. > As it seems, using standard permissions or ACLs is not going to work > for you. But allow me to throw in some further thoughts. >=20 > On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:23:21 -0800, Sergei G wrote: >> MS DPAPI is secure, because it relies on user's password to encrypt = user's >> data store. However, when windows services are involved, windows = service >> control manager (SCM) needs to store user's password, so it can = unlock >> DPAPI store when it starts the service. >=20 > This somehow invalidates your first sentence. Is the password known > to the service in plain text? Is it _stored_ in plain text? Or does > the service store something like a hash or somehow encrypted password, > and just checks "crypted vs. crypted" instead of "plain vs. plain" > after decrypt? >=20 > I won't go into detail about my feelings considering the idea that > a closed source product licensed from an NSA strategic partner can > be regarded "secure" - forgive my tinfoilhatness. ;-) >=20 MS DPAPI uses a variation on the PBKDF2 key generation algorithm = (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-CA/library/ms995355.aspx) to generate a = key-encrypting-key for the user. The PBKDF2 uses the end-user=E2=80=99s = plain text password as a starting point along with a magic number from = the server itself. This key-encrypting-key is used to encrypt the data = encrypting key for storage on the server. When you use MS DPAPI in conjunction with a service that starts = automatically, the Data Encrypting Key is encrypted using a key unique = to the server that the service runs on. The exact nature and protection = around that key-encrypting-key depends on the hardware capabilities of = the server. It will use the Intel TPM, if available but can be = configured to not use. MS Windows (the Operating system) is built to protect the KEK from all = users, including administrators. It might be possible for a skilled = malicious hacker to bypass the OS protections and read the key directly = from RAM but if the Intel TPM is used for the system master-key storage, = it should not be possible to extract the data encrypting key from a disk = image or stolen hard disk. There are actually more layers of keys than I am describing above but it = gives you an idea. >=20 >=20 >> Thus, Windows OS has to store a >> form of user's password somewhere... >=20 > Exactly - this is one entity knowing the "keys to the kingdom" you > cannot trust. There are good and bad ways how to deal with passwords. > The best way is to not store them at all, the worst way is to store > them in plaintext. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Our goal is to apply defense in depth and in this case it is a = protection >> of CONTENT of a file in case it was downloaded by an attacker. = Standard >> ACL solution does not work, because www user by definition has access = to a >> file's content to be able to work with (load it into application = memory). >> The file is not meant to be served, but it may be serviced due to a >> vulnerability or misconfiguration. That's the scenario that we are >> defending against. >=20 > Now I understand. You'd still encounter the problem that an attacker > will retrieve the data at a stage where it is _not_ encrypted, and > there definitely is such a stage, i.e., when the data is going to > be used (read or written). >=20 > I have something in mind which might not be a solution for you, but > could help develop further ideas: >=20 > Imagine the data is stored in a disk image. This image is encrypted, > so if the attacker gets the image, it's of no value. This image is > being mounted (read only or read/write, as needed) and decrypted > "through" a trusted "access layer". Modifications can only happen > at that time. After use, the image is unmounted and therefore > encrypted again. I'm obviously talking about a file system image > plus some kind of PGP layer. I think it is possible to implement > this with "SSH + NFS", or somehow "mount + PGP"=E2=80=A6 You might want to have a look at fuse and encfs. The key management for = encfs sucks but fuse has the advantage of working in user space. So, = only the user that actually mounted the filesystem with fuse can see the = mount point (by default). I found a fuse filesystem that uses gpg for file management but it was = written entirely in python which seams to defeat the purpose to me for = many reason. I would say you need something that supports a key server to properly = protect the encryption keys. I have tested the scenario where I use encfs to encrypt/decrypt files on = one server with the files themselves stored on an NFS share mounted from = a different server. I.e. Server A runs encfs and acts as a NFS client. = Server B is an NFS server and does not have the encryption keys. I = wouldn=E2=80=99t call this true defence in depth since an attacker can = trivially gain the encryption key if they get root (or the right user) = privileges on server A). To make the above more secure, a key server and modifications to key = management for encfs would be needed. >=20 >> One solution could be the deployment of a "security service" = providing data >> over a Unix file socket. The "security service" simply returns = password to >> the application and application decrypts sensitive data on the fly or = uses >> this password to establish DB connection. A direct download of file's >> content would not result in sensitive data exposure. >=20 > That would be possible, but again involves the knowledge of the > password (plain?) to possibly untrusted instances. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> The compromise is only possible if attacker gains ability to execute >> arbitrary code as www user and instructs system to connect to = "security >> service". The same is true to DPAPI protection. If attacker can = execute >> arbitrary code as a service user, then he or she can return = originally >> protected data in plain text form. >=20 > Being able to execute untrusted code basically is GAME OVER, > especially when running with non-trivial system privilege. > It would require that the associated user (corresponding to > the service) is only allowed to execute _one_ verified binary > image. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> In some way this is similar to WSC-DPAPI at the conceptual level. = WSC >> knows the user's password, unlocks user's store and starts = application with >> user's context. This "security service" plays a similar 3rd party = role of >> knowing the password and returning it. Unfortunately, some form of >> application ACL is necessary in this case. >=20 > Again, too much "know the password" is involved here. But maybe > this is inevitable for the setting you're describing. In that > case, it would sound possible to implement something like this > in Linux or UNIX. I don't know of a particular program which > does this, but I'd say it's more or less trivial: When access > to a file is requested which is under "user password control", > the service decrypts the file (knowing the required password), > and upon close(), re-encrypts it again. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Does it make any sense? Is it too much protection for the payoff? >=20 > It's an additional means of security, but no "one size cures > all" approach. Just given the password is "password", "12345", > or "correcthorsebatterystaple", a quick dictionary-based attack > on an extracted encrypted file will reveal the content - and > will confirm that this password is valid for _other_ files > associated with that user... >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Does something like this exist today? >=20 > Not that I'm aware of, but still possible. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D The Lost Admin thelostadmin@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 07:59:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DB5AC7AB5 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 07:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S15.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s15.hotmail.com [65.55.111.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 717597A1 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 07:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP85 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S15.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 8 Mar 2016 23:59:25 -0800 X-TMN: [3YiUZLB6Rh/OPN5NmucjSUjJHyp8I6CZ] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: To: User Questions From: Manish Jain Subject: Help needed to re-connect FreeBSD to internet Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:29:10 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 160308-1, 08-03-2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2016 07:59:22.0615 (UTC) FILETIME=[97720070:01D179D9] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:59:26 -0000 Hi, I am using a dual-boot machine Windows XP SP3 and FreeBSD 10.2 amd64, using a Wi-Fi modem connected to the PC with a LAN cable. Till a couple of days back, the systems had no issue connecting to internet and the world seemed rosy. All of a sudden, yesterday disaster struck and neither was able open up any site in the web browser. Help from the service provider got the Windows system working again. I enabled Internet Connection Sharing and replaced DHCP with 192.168.10.3 for the PC and 192.168.10.1 for the Wi-Fi modem (default_router). While the Windows connects to the internet now, the FreeBSD box remains stuck with roughly those same settings. ifconfig re0 : re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8209b ether 50:46:5d:66:fd:10 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active pinging 192.168.1.1 produces 'no route to host' and 100.0% packet loss. At boot-time, the system seems to attempt getting a DHCP lease multiple times without success. cat /etc/resolv.conf : nameserver 192.168.1.1 cat /etc/rc.conf : hostname="freebsd10dot2.amd64.local" ifconfig_re0="DHCP" sshd_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="AUTO" keyrate="fast" apcupsd_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" gnome_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" mysql_enable="YES" fusefs_enable="YES" atapicam_load="YES" cupsd_enable="NO" Can someone please point me to what might be the error/changes needed for my FreeBSD box to connect to internet again ? Thank you. -- Regards, Manish Jain -- Regards, Manish Jain +91-70731-76333 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 08:09:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899F89DB3E2; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@bsdjunk.com) Received: from outbound2.mail.transip.nl (outbound2.mail.transip.nl [IPv6:2a01:7c8:7c8::73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56163CC7; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@bsdjunk.com) Received: from submission1.mail.transip.nl (submission1.mail.transip.nl [IPv6:2a01:7c8:7c8::65]) by outbound2.mail.transip.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3qKmJj57MpzYxXG; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:09:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.frontend (web2.mail.transip.nl [149.210.149.97]) by submission1.mail.transip.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3qKmJl506hz2X09; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:09:11 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:09:11 -0600 From: chris@bsdjunk.com To: Manish Jain Cc: User Questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help needed to re-connect FreeBSD to internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: chris@bsdjunk.com User-Agent: Webmail X-Scanned-By: ClueGetter at submission1.mail.transip.nl X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@transip.nl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:09:15 -0000 On 2016-03-09 01:59, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I am using a dual-boot machine Windows XP SP3 and FreeBSD 10.2 amd64, > using a Wi-Fi modem connected to the PC with a LAN cable. Till a > couple of days back, the systems had no issue connecting to internet > and the world seemed rosy. All of a sudden, yesterday disaster struck > and neither was able open up any site in the web browser. > > Help from the service provider got the Windows system working again. I > enabled Internet Connection Sharing and replaced DHCP with > 192.168.10.3 for the PC and 192.168.10.1 for the Wi-Fi modem > (default_router). While the Windows connects to the internet now, the > FreeBSD box remains stuck with roughly those same settings. > > ifconfig re0 : > re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > options=8209b > > ether 50:46:5d:66:fd:10 > inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 > nd6 options=29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > > pinging 192.168.1.1 produces 'no route to host' and 100.0% packet > loss. At boot-time, the system seems to attempt getting a DHCP lease > multiple times without success. > > cat /etc/resolv.conf : > > nameserver 192.168.1.1 > > cat /etc/rc.conf : > > hostname="freebsd10dot2.amd64.local" > ifconfig_re0="DHCP" > sshd_enable="YES" > # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable > dumpdev="AUTO" > keyrate="fast" > apcupsd_enable="YES" > dbus_enable="YES" > hald_enable="YES" > gnome_enable="YES" > linux_enable="YES" > mysql_enable="YES" > fusefs_enable="YES" > atapicam_load="YES" > cupsd_enable="NO" > > > Can someone please point me to what might be the error/changes needed > for my FreeBSD box to connect to internet again ? Thank you. > > -- > Regards, > > Manish Jain Hi, By the looks of it you changed the IP but forgot to add the default route. http://handbook.bsdjunk.com/network-routing.html When using a static IP you're required to add in a infconfig_nic0="" and defaultroute="" or else it has no where to route the packets. once you do that you can test using service netif restart && service routing restart Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 08:11:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A948E9DB58B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7323CF82 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2E4B254AE; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:11:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u298BYZg002923; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:11:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:11:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Help needed to re-connect FreeBSD to internet Message-Id: <20160309091134.59049c66.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:11:44 -0000 On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:29:10 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > Help from the service provider got the Windows system working again. I > enabled Internet Connection Sharing and replaced DHCP with 192.168.10.3 > for the PC and 192.168.10.1 for the Wi-Fi modem (default_router). While > the Windows connects to the internet now, the FreeBSD box remains stuck > with roughly those same settings. You should now reproduce the change of settings that made "Windows" connect again with FreeBSD. Probably you have wrong configuration there. > ifconfig re0 : > re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8209b > > ether 50:46:5d:66:fd:10 > inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 > nd6 options=29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active You don't have an IP associated with the netword interface. As you stated above, 192.168.10.3 is now to be used for the PC. Adjust /etc/rc.conf accordingly: ifconfig_re0="inet 192.168.10.3 netmask 0xffffff00" That should bring the desired functionality back. Also check with the provider if there was any change regarding name servers or default gateway. > pinging 192.168.1.1 produces 'no route to host' and 100.0% packet loss. Expected. > At boot-time, the system seems to attempt getting a DHCP lease multiple > times without success. Obviously, there is no "DHCP server" in the modem anymore, and as you've configured a static IP for "Windows", doing the same for FreeBSD should work. Remove ifconfig_re0="DHCP" from /etc/rc.conf (or put a # infront of it). > cat /etc/resolv.conf : > > nameserver 192.168.1.1 Hmmm... that's outside of your subnet (which is 192.168.10.*). > cat /etc/rc.conf : > > hostname="freebsd10dot2.amd64.local" > ifconfig_re0="DHCP" ^^^^ This is the problem. FreeBSD expects a DHCP server to assign it an IP address, but there is none (as you had to manually configure a static IP for the client). > Can someone please point me to what might be the error/changes needed > for my FreeBSD box to connect to internet again ? Thank you. The same change as in "Windows". You might even be able to check (maybe required) different settings for gateway and NS from the running (working) "Windows" instance. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 08:50:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F10AC8910 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D616C89E for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id p65so182420609wmp.1 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 00:50:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=/Vun9gbtEC79LTyDA62RzK9hHwswcF0G5MduMkrh0/I=; b=C24kI/sQqru5GzRGWFh2R2NFw9WgdoF0ZPPSdL1yguv4xEZC04804hSImgbNHkXMk+ wZQVyzDCZFQZD+0pWd136v5CWJ6u4lPZA5vDlO13pnnChmhrEm1QpEN6UPH/V7KHzTwe d+dGOQmqBeWLb4FxEmS/0TeBaueYcraf0yrppitTH8XfzhADSKJWRa9HmCorxvIH/KaX DUKzCll7LIbsEGyLCDD2qxfSQoYzM8UQIEP+/6RmqZAcZZCBodLeaPNNIaUI9gSipDb4 UkiF7AR7AZJFYiVGNLUu5d+qjAwAyHE7keSkSBso6hAqhpKpnuZHeykcMiRswo5Ir92A aoiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=/Vun9gbtEC79LTyDA62RzK9hHwswcF0G5MduMkrh0/I=; b=hqgQDhfEYsTpFtB5AYG1PfQqKDa2xsF60kc2+rpiqjXQ1ldTmYEmFzC+cWf2nTQRQc 4DnSMJ6uTDFTNpQxVU+isNetjqoGiNm+RpC6/XnSL8u++Ev5Iapio4pPl1qFKgvgpGRr opmek9mYdpE80RvQZXM5yKXkifR7g8EzrEdN9IwNZfZG23aYUAo9ly7wAwcCboyPteii XG3BWMgq7IjwZ7rTs96BEFZs/aXGzpfe8EMW5olLFKMqevhj91lpMjpd2Dz/qBcIp5bG EAJXGlUdepqn/XkNcCgp6xGreBFy2L+qkAn2i9BXoj9Kn19Mdd/FhjSKHAahU0+STpwe m/3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJWkrxuhBfFqaDCwS4XHmk5jRRBsIKdx+Hv+siOgg8c6JDyRiVdj4ZzI2LyX6BBZjfkBa6WiNe/bQNFjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.20.145 with SMTP id 139mr24806812wmu.76.1457513438241; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 00:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.23.70 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 00:50:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:50:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Amazing Web and UI Design From: Murk Fletcher To: Olivier Nicole , User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:50:40 -0000 To be honest I just wanted to show that his design was shit. It's overdone and bears witness of one who doesn't fully understand the principles of good design. This is the last you'll hear from me. Thank you. Murk On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:25 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Murk, > > You should avoid replying to such a request. Or at least avoid > replying to the list, doing so, you only amplify the spam :) > > have agood day, > > Olivier > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Murk Fletcher > wrote: > > Please don't spam this list. > > > > All the best, > > Murk > > http://www.siegelgale.com/ > > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Murk Fletcher > > wrote: > > > >> Please don't spam this list. > >> > >> All the best, > >> Murk > >> http://www.siegelgale.com/ > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Marko Bijelic > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi FreeBSD, > >>> > >>> I am experienced web and UI designer looking for contract or full-time > >>> work at your company. Some examples of software websites I did: > >>> > >>> http://www.results.com > >>> http://www.voogla.com > >>> http://www.priceapi.com > >>> http://www.supersaas.com > >>> http://www.zadarastorage.com > >>> > >>> UI examples > >>> http://icelandingpagedesign.com/portfolio/ > >>> > >>> Drop me a line, > >>> Marko > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:31:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F77AC9A45 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E105C8FE for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DFD18AC9A44; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6E9AC9A43 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95A868FD for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A64D7882 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:31:07 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :subject:subject:from:from:received:received:received; s= selector1; t=1457519459; x=1459333860; bh=/CfgmT5PSSNC3yr9TvKzj5 g/m3gGVsih4uEDlWmYslQ=; b=QiQxbpgCwLqlT4GpIWFchMtVoGzFKMbPDMN+XI MHkLJKx+xDkxi/Cd0UrwrZ1Ne8nPLRI1vI9K+QzdYg0LPCuI6HcxE5MYhOOAJgDi bXrZxSmcMc0WOqYzHBboKnf4O4tjyc1+DYmlJPlsyEawFmRxzas54iiDlhIySj5w zT+Yw= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ePxXgWKZz1kD for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:30:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A705D7881 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:30:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u29AUxf8058146; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:30:59 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cshell closing on CTRL-c Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:30:59 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:31:16 -0000 Hi, I have that very annoying feature lately: /bin/csh will close when I type CTRL-C. As a nasty side effect, because I constantly switch between Windows and FreeBSD, I try to copy something with the mouse, I type CTRL-C even if I don't need it in FreeBSD and bam! Or I try to interrup some command working in the shell, I type one too many CTRL-C and bam! Did I say it is annoying? I have a stronger word for this, revolvong around a PiTA. I am not sure how this feature even hapened, it seems it does not affect all the systems I have. Any idea? Best regards, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:48:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1943AC80D1 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eduardo.lemosdesa@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A7FE40 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eduardo.lemosdesa@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AEF22AC80D0; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7E8AC80CF for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eduardo.lemosdesa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x233.google.com (mail-vk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B044E3F for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eduardo.lemosdesa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id e6so50735578vkh.2 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:48:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=yoLOyggvY5MH4P46c+E6ogCxORZUDN63+USzTxgKg+c=; b=gZAPmNFIRT0PBZCCON03l4XH62qsjEwbTOBFfi8PdLJXCVQrvTw/zr57iSjOMkEpA2 Eqrpq2iLIGZUbRz9ccGZ8tatvv3ofUE9WekKKfWRkJl694l9UoMYfAuFsk9UlttIXrcK 6FT5CZwiWgJVpkXAxIYtavSPrC0ohIei+0WU901qgLdnoltdn6Xe3z6Ee2N9MRmgwhCN a67EyTMX/3V89KdgmNwMBKUgZQxIG2Der59ZGx06hVsDYqaB3zAZlqDxtc9VL/S/NiHj 3bEqGwUzkGLjdRE/NexRLwO91ZbgkVe3UJogAMTd+mzs4sj+vzyEYk3Z+8PYcA/Lpssl pofw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=yoLOyggvY5MH4P46c+E6ogCxORZUDN63+USzTxgKg+c=; b=MJFdpXH2g/i++2/MC1RUzHcq+Vxb6ZCmPVxetd+z3wh1bKCFYFGb99wt7vtWYCInuT vlEsppcZWVBX5b+jrvcnAkYPpc/9ODr5HaruoQW/8vKk6EnkQOxRqGBN+LTldXXH1yrJ NNGSyHfg2MRp3UNqKlZ5+IlOGtSvcTsoFbDaFhaN9Di2tP31YDCtD4bhg6fM3TbAW+wC 4T+hjR4fhM6e3QGz4Ug47jZzxLUaN43l1TqOziTIbRQcjWJz6WdhdKfB02/JEVfaB4tS 49VdmJstkjSosNylQ1wM9AL7agkpeeLerGJWLFLXQU3FMLYYScY8zsZHrLxTH12HPGqE epaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKb1jq9QHhMWhRPvn4II1fI2V2PZBJH1zGBOWDVUnXN+jppRM50o8rz0SnnU8kCe8U+txqt2W0V1OVrHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.47.139 with SMTP id v133mr31242494vkv.120.1457520519298; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.234.195 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 02:48:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 07:48:39 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c From: Eduardo Lemos de Sa To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:48:41 -0000 Dear Olivier On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I have that very annoying feature lately: /bin/csh will close when I > type CTRL-C. > > As a nasty side effect, because I constantly switch between Windows and > FreeBSD, I try to copy something with the mouse, I type CTRL-C even if I > don't need it in FreeBSD and bam! > > Or I try to interrup some command working in the shell, I type one too > many CTRL-C and bam! > > Did I say it is annoying? I have a stronger word for this, revolvong > around a PiTA. > > I am not sure how this feature even hapened, it seems it does not affect > all the systems I have. > > Any idea? > > Best regards, > > Olivier > -- > I am afraid to cannot say anything about your problem with CTRL-C but, on my FreeBSD desktops to copy I only have to highlight the text and press INSERT to past it. Very simple, a CTRL-C is not necessary. Best wishes Eduardo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 Eduardo Lemos de Sa Associated Professor Level 4 Dep. Quimica da Universidade Federal do Paran=C3=A1 fone: +55(41)3361-3300 fax: +55(41)3361-3186 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:54:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D45DAC8413 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F0E259 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 42F96AC8412; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4297CAC8411 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB7E2258 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61DFD7882; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:54:37 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1457520876; x=1459335277; bh=h28qJlimG 2dqB9AnXUhpQqA+Iy4bIpsccB8lyXIMfU8=; b=fPGJB92W66kaKEOq4g7/hfrYV fpaZKWKBx9Hy1BYTvYloo05M5goJGBthj0yznbwHcy7vNw02CZW/waQY5Cw7FwlE 2qybz2p2nyUEEKYTxNfBG8UkydphvkLdJqq/H4vGbQ5JDsFsK1xQjHHRimFmqor0 uJ/Y+FYo7RWR2/NBfE= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id dQ_ybwLSSMmr; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:54:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCAD9D7881; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:54:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u29AsalO058190; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:54:36 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: Eduardo Lemos de Sa Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c In-Reply-To: (message from Eduardo Lemos de Sa on Wed, 9 Mar 2016 07:48:39 -0300) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:54:36 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:54:40 -0000 Dear Eduardo, > I am afraid to cannot say anything about your problem with CTRL-C but, on > my FreeBSD desktops to copy I only have to highlight the text and press > INSERT to past it. Very simple, a CTRL-C is not necessary. I know, but if I just switched from Windows, then I type CTRL-C by reflex. In the past, it used to do nothing, but now it kills the shell. TIA Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:59:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C15FAC867F for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB7C75D for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 57F50AC867E; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5789AAC867D for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E54D375C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id n186so172352749wmn.1 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:59:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ce/ELbUQ4Rjg2MyxuWusSkgPl2V+Lz+8wJvAEQ7hrF8=; b=dXQCfEQ897fxt1Egj28q52T5QdgwweTK3BzM4Rf5j3ktSN7Yl8QkSSMpvHir6MKIws S3E5ziE9pHwa2/9rG1CZN9y9RZr9IieBD/D68AKLbUHkRpeKDfSxsEEmIcwXDkuM12Rx QXQ1teWeckHke2dVzCx981ST68Y+JWLIXjXyu4Np6eBgiVwqNOW0o2fZrkGDqQLnOGRG of4AjiVcShZg2+3d1Bv7WNB44K2/NIgQb3YzxTiXa4ElOlTNFZuZK5XJfE9ECv7MKlmK 47pJnlFMn6JR3UkMB4CMKQnDGHUqxvJRi7ACT2fOGOJTsi9lkTV1bS0NXY8+SZEDHCHC l2Zg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ce/ELbUQ4Rjg2MyxuWusSkgPl2V+Lz+8wJvAEQ7hrF8=; b=RiP8p5J0d67rDNnNSpkcjxQsAzt2tizlr80Rko7wpx9b6dO/7761fZbN4Las1prAX0 p0/RJuET8Mq/pSE3LmNpUoAplYS23J8neGbE4GO0793N8EjpKUZWoUfPMH40vRMcLYFG fS4AVl1PIv/u5wP4LwJ40P/l4EMu/gZBCmxx0xFsZ8/xuWw6n29R/7Qcy639G3oDyoHB AQdMY1r4Al9wG0+2PZRN4H1aAEszi3QNHv0HbyyMluCmSA/YZjltZiS6Aww24GEvjt0a GC+D4mLrUJj+wX8LKEKba8UyzcxY9B73nAjPKHtVQR+hu89hIO9eBkM8Sm50nIwLWgmj wyRg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKSNkduGNbBSjh2IopFKjFwgx1l6iRQRpPi/q3UEr9cOw+1A7cfX4bwLZoG820yBw== X-Received: by 10.28.11.69 with SMTP id 66mr25223356wml.103.1457521192374; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from MichaelsMacBook.local (muc-mail.fast-lta.de. [82.98.92.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ux5sm7334508wjc.17.2016.03.09.02.59.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c To: Olivier Nicole , questions@freebsd.org References: From: Michael Schuster Message-ID: <56E00227.1010208@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:59:51 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:59:54 -0000 On 09/03/16 11:54, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Dear Eduardo, > >> I am afraid to cannot say anything about your problem with CTRL-C but, on >> my FreeBSD desktops to copy I only have to highlight the text and press >> INSERT to past it. Very simple, a CTRL-C is not necessary. > > I know, but if I just switched from Windows, then I type CTRL-C by > reflex. > > In the past, it used to do nothing, but now it kills the shell. > It's been a while since I last used *csh, but I believe "stty" and "bindkey" may be the things to look into. HTH Michael -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ recursion, n: see recursion From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 11:46:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D89AC9E5F for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A18DEEC for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3qKrwp21yLz1cXLd for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:37:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mcs.it Received: from baobab.bilink.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (baobab.mcs.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 11027) with ESMTP id CFXVCdThck9l for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:37:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.mcs.it (hermes.mcs.it [192.168.132.21]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3qKrwp1B9yz1cXLS for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:37:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermes.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44D51B746B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:37:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:37:10 +0100 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing architecture In-Reply-To: <3q8lXL4yW5zRRqS@baobab.bilink.it> References: <3q8cLq5D8hzRRqS@baobab.bilink.it> <3q8lXL4yW5zRRqS@baobab.bilink.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3qKrwp1B9yz1cXLS@baobab.bilink.it> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:46:21 -0000 On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:02:55 +0100 Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > check this article: > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/amd64/i386Migration > Wow! > Sounds promising :-) > Worth a try. Done! Maybe the wiki needs to mention 10.X boot options and a few changes, but it works quite flawlessly! The only thing I would mention is that (at least with 10.1) you need to manually create the .cf files (from the .mc) in /usr/src/etc/sendmail if you use postfix or the "make distribution" will fail. Great thing BTW. Thanks to everybody again, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 12:08:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC4AAC8F98 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B13BC79 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8A758AC8F97; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A120AC8F95 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5245AC78 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9CDE3CF6B; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:08:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u29C8AdV002024; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:08:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:08:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Eduardo Lemos de Sa Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c Message-Id: <20160309130810.4225f659.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:08:21 -0000 On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 07:48:39 -0300, Eduardo Lemos de Sa wrote: > I am afraid to cannot say anything about your problem with CTRL-C but, on > my FreeBSD desktops to copy I only have to highlight the text and press > INSERT to past it. Very simple, a CTRL-C is not necessary. Similar here, except that I can press the middle mouse button (yes, it's a 3 button mouse, but you could press the wheel, too) in order to paste the clipboard content to the current cursor position. This is very conventient as you use the left key for selection (or left for selection-begin, right for selection-end when highlighting inside an X terminal), and the middle one to paste. No keyboard action involved. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 12:19:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A66AC7544 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC7B2F0 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BD4ECAC7540; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF10AC753F for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 848172EF for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 040A13CF0C; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:19:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u29CJ6p6002127; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:19:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Olivier Nicole Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c Message-Id: <20160309131906.eca65270.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:19:09 -0000 On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:30:59 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I have that very annoying feature lately: /bin/csh will close when I > type CTRL-C. Somehow this sounds familiar! Can you provide what configuration change you made prior to this behaviour? For control characters, check the output of "stty -a". Here is an example where Ctrl+C acts as intended: % stty -a [...] cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; Where does ^C appear in your output? The shell also exits on "end of input", which is ^D (eof) which can be prevented by "set ignoreeof". > I am not sure how this feature even hapened, it seems it does not affect > all the systems I have. > > Any idea? Changes to /etc/csh.cshrc or ~/.cshrc? Try this: % stty intr ^C kill ^U Source: https://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/usd/04.csh/paper.pdf -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 12:24:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683E8AC7841 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahzaib.cb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ED708C0 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahzaib.cb@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-x235.google.com with SMTP id av4so14182866igc.1 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:24:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=uG6jk+yXIsn7UPvQb+/jSNztOG7SuAkRRsHxGIED8aM=; b=SQGPepWdheazFFO/P9CON4prlIzWr5KlUWhB3MjVXchd46QPSIVE1k5rjfBsxPqYYH Ex4xppnIyysJ/NixSHmPRQHU3ReQrdq1ETG42M8FraSNryO6tKYwqmcWBONMC5xn+E4u BYGcbXga50frlWndX4snOOW7EQwliRAdOhC0cXHy9ZvBql3yLuT5Ys6T1c7vvK8BO2I/ oA75N6XVuGPZnk79QlTGVWJuj39vQzmP0yZMofCefQ9anG3DXGqRNzJgz6q8S4eNsDY/ zhpLNHInwU0SEKx97kDFKRlLMAjPTLFPxCKuizOHsXxUGbFC1hZoGj4ufgdIfSS159e8 5Enw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=uG6jk+yXIsn7UPvQb+/jSNztOG7SuAkRRsHxGIED8aM=; b=QEHrD0TINlxxgKNVXsLJzsVlk3lLvphQlAROXrPV/LVpxKMHmUuCpR1CsryQzITrn3 CeM63d+3ZOqMYcEmSs1zw7b7Al8rDjnhhpztq+9JDfAfBrC3xr7uNi06PjBlPX1F39F1 M/ajxkr8WtQcOwACUddIxu/o2XcLHJ9+jjAzp+Eklr2Soj7R3U3ChcY8xLPovk85MXcu mDdesiH0IVaIwpU+PylidSOhFg+1hCwzDVOD5tR3mXrAhuq2DMUyYwe4D+iAGsXOtweJ 72KzlIcIFnmgi7J4r3Y6FsLb8Xj6QYacVKpBV7OxzuVse8y/D8o89PAbyCnYBmHMnsz+ ia4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKiQwyDm/T/1goQ5t+pm19+vBl3DHc338w1bCXF1kHd7f+4+CuBHOFBvkGf1O23/jSPbqeeNcMGnAUlvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.132.42 with SMTP id or10mr24685685igb.85.1457526277961; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.128.145 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 04:24:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:24:37 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD Crashes Intermittently !! From: shahzaib shahzaib To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:24:39 -0000 Hi, I am new to this mailing list so please pardon me for any mistakes. We've started using FreeBSD from past 4-5 months and facing auto-reboot crash issue since the beginning. Following are the servers specs : Supermicro X5690 (12 cores, 24 threads - 2u) 96GB RAM 12x3TB mirror+stripping (HBA-LSI9211) X8DT3 Board We've total of 5 supermicro servers built upon same hardware and all of them intermittently goes down and sometimes they crash and boot up automatically (within 6min) and sometimes they gets freeze and we've to manually boot them via IPMI interface. All the time we get 'MCA Internal Timer Error' in crash logs. Here is the recent one : http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c Once we reported this issue to our hardware vendor he said that its due to FreeBSD incompatibility with hardware and suggested us to try installing Linux on one of them and so did we proceeded with Debian on one of them them but all in vain and server was still crashing. Once we reported him about his failed proposal he then said that it could be related to application which is causing this crash. Now if he really is right then RAM should first swapped out to its full in order to make OS crash but never did that happened, we've never been out of Memory as 96GB RAM is pretty high. We've also took some precaution to debug this issue : - Replacing Power-Supply. - Reducing CMOS in BIOS. - Disabling Intel Powersaving features. - Upgrade Bios Now we do not know how and what to debug. If you need more details, please visit following thread which we created 2 months back : https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/54412/ Now i am confused if application really can crash server without swapping it out ? Could there be any php function which could make a crash :-| . Is FreeBSD is the cause of crash ? Things are pretty blurred right now :(. Here is the Kernel tuning values : http://pastebin.com/nEnxkV6y Please help us further !! Regards. Shahzaib From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 13:54:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA82AC97AB for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC2S11.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s11.hotmail.com [65.55.111.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B60167C3 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP98 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S11.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 9 Mar 2016 05:54:34 -0800 X-TMN: [vm3aM9leFOPwRDWC0gqyK90e35+zT1aF] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help needed to re-connect FreeBSD to internet To: chris@bsdjunk.com, Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Manish Jain Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:24:18 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2016 13:54:31.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[348C8BB0:01D17A0B] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:54:36 -0000 On 03/09/16 13:39, chris@bsdjunk.com wrote: > On 2016-03-09 01:59, Manish Jain wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am using a dual-boot machine Windows XP SP3 and FreeBSD 10.2 amd64, >> using a Wi-Fi modem connected to the PC with a LAN cable. Till a >> couple of days back, the systems had no issue connecting to internet >> and the world seemed rosy. All of a sudden, yesterday disaster struck >> and neither was able open up any site in the web browser. >> >> Help from the service provider got the Windows system working again. I >> enabled Internet Connection Sharing and replaced DHCP with >> 192.168.10.3 for the PC and 192.168.10.1 for the Wi-Fi modem >> (default_router). While the Windows connects to the internet now, the >> FreeBSD box remains stuck with roughly those same settings. >> >> ifconfig re0 : >> re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >> 1500 >> options=8209b >> >> >> ether 50:46:5d:66:fd:10 >> inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 >> nd6 options=29 >> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) >> status: active >> >> pinging 192.168.1.1 produces 'no route to host' and 100.0% packet >> loss. At boot-time, the system seems to attempt getting a DHCP lease >> multiple times without success. >> >> cat /etc/resolv.conf : >> >> nameserver 192.168.1.1 >> >> cat /etc/rc.conf : >> >> hostname="freebsd10dot2.amd64.local" >> ifconfig_re0="DHCP" >> sshd_enable="YES" >> # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable >> dumpdev="AUTO" >> keyrate="fast" >> apcupsd_enable="YES" >> dbus_enable="YES" >> hald_enable="YES" >> gnome_enable="YES" >> linux_enable="YES" >> mysql_enable="YES" >> fusefs_enable="YES" >> atapicam_load="YES" >> cupsd_enable="NO" >> >> >> Can someone please point me to what might be the error/changes needed >> for my FreeBSD box to connect to internet again ? Thank you. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Manish Jain > Hi, > > By the looks of it you changed the IP but forgot to add the default > route. > > http://handbook.bsdjunk.com/network-routing.html > > When using a static IP you're required to add in a infconfig_nic0="" > and defaultroute="" or else it has no where to route the packets. > > once you do that you can test using service netif restart && service > routing restart > > Chris > > Hi Chris/Polytropon, It worked ! The error I was making was using 'default_router' instead of 'defaultrouter' in rc.conf. Using 'bsdconfig networking' sorted that out. I still can't figure though why DHCP was working till the day before. Anyways, thanks a lot. Regards Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 16:56:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D48AC8A13 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from V20203092016110134ei_ofc.7500805@e2.exhibitorinvites.com) Received: from e2.exhibitorinvites.com (e2.exhibitorinvites.com [216.127.132.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61DAAAE9 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from V20203092016110134ei_ofc.7500805@e2.exhibitorinvites.com) Received: (localhost) by e2.exhibitorinvites.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) Message-Id: From: "Speed Photon Technology" Subject: Register today to see Speed Photon Technology at OFC 2016 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:03:02 -0500 To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 16:56:26 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 17:03:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D431FAC8D4F for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD65AFA2 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5B89FCB8CBB; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:03:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:03:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <31151.128.135.52.6.1457542982.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:03:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes Intermittently !! From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "shahzaib shahzaib" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:03:09 -0000 On Wed, March 9, 2016 6:24 am, shahzaib shahzaib wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to this mailing list so please pardon me for any mistakes. We've > started using FreeBSD from past 4-5 months and facing auto-reboot crash > issue since the beginning. Following are the servers specs : > > Supermicro X5690 (12 cores, 24 threads - 2u) > 96GB RAM > 12x3TB mirror+stripping (HBA-LSI9211) > X8DT3 Board > > We've total of 5 supermicro servers built upon same hardware and all of > them intermittently goes down and sometimes they crash and boot up > automatically (within 6min) and sometimes they gets freeze and we've to > manually boot them via IPMI interface. All the time we get 'MCA Internal > Timer Error' in crash logs. Here is the recent one : > > http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c > > Once we reported this issue to our hardware vendor he said that its due to > FreeBSD incompatibility with hardware and suggested us to try installing > Linux on one of them and so did we proceeded with Debian on one of them > them but all in vain and server was still crashing. Once we reported him > about his failed proposal he then said that it could be related to > application which is causing this crash. Not correct. Normally neither on FreeBSD, nor on Linux application will not be able to crash the system. The worst that could happen, application related process (or processes) will die or get killed. You quite likely have hardware problem. It doesn't seem your hardware vendor did burn-in test of your boxes. > > Now if he really is right then RAM should first swapped out to its full in > order to make OS crash Not correct. Normally if you run system out of memory(including swap) one or few processes can get killed, but the system will not crash. It may have appearance of getting locked (unresponsive) for some time, in the case you have large swap (as with process switching it will have to swap in memory pages, and swap something out to switch to next process, that is why I prefer not to have swap on huge memory boxes, or never have large swap). > but never did that happened, we've never been out > of > Memory as 96GB RAM is pretty high. We've also took some precaution to > debug > this issue : > > - Replacing Power-Supply. > - Reducing CMOS in BIOS. > - Disabling Intel Powersaving features. > - Upgrade Bios > > > Now we do not know how and what to debug. If you need more details, please > visit following thread which we created 2 months back : > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/54412/ > To simplify your life, update to the latest (and yes, stay with RELEASE - which I see you have in that forum thread). > Now i am confused if application really can crash server without swapping > it out ? Could there be any php function which could make a crash :-| . Is > FreeBSD is the cause of crash ? Things are pretty blurred right now :(. > Here is the Kernel tuning values : Again, no: "application" can not crash kernel. Apart from hardware, only what runs in kernel context can, e.g. hardware drivers. With your machine I would first make sure your hardware is sane. Here is what I would do if it were my box: 1. go to BIOS and make sure temperature thresholds are not too low (even though this doesn't seem to be your case), remove BIOS hardware memory hole re-mapping 2. inspect what and how is installed inside the box (e.g. some cards may not be installed well, not fully engaged into connectors - which doesn't seem to be your case either) 3. Check that all memory is of the same brand and same type (which likely to be your problem). 4. Check that RAM, CPUs are in the list of supported by motherboard manufacturer for this particular motherboard model 5. if not all memory slots are filled, check motherboard manual how to partially fill memory slots. Basically if memory bus leads are not terminated, one should first fill farthest from CPU or memory controller slots (thus avoiding reflection from the end of not terminated transmission line) 6. leave minimal amount of hardware in the motherboard, and see if the box doesn't crash. This means: remove all added cards which you can run the machine without (for testing purpose), remove all CPUs except for CPU #0 which the machine boots off, put minimal amount of RAM (these days memory controllers are on the CPU substrate, so make sure RAM is plugged into slots connected to CPU #0). Make sure you removed all components first then re-install minimal set. Run memory test (memtest86, you can find bootable CDs which memtest86). Observe anti-static precautions! I've seen memory chips that were slightly fried by static discharge. (other electronics components may be like that too). They were working as if they are good, but at some point later they started failing. They may be a bit out of specs after static discharge, which may cause random errors. What hardware components can cause problems like yours (apart from using CPUs or RAM that are not supported by motherboard). Motherboard itself (e.g., micro cracks in some PCB leads), RAM (most likely), CPU, poorly installed PCI-X (or PCI, PCI-E) cards. Good luck troubleshooting! Incidentally, I do have a bunch of supermicro based systemboard boxes running FreeBSD 9.3 and FreeBSD 10.2, none of them ever crash. Valeri > > http://pastebin.com/nEnxkV6y > > Please help us further !! > > Regards. > Shahzaib > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 19:20:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A69EAC9AF4 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net [194.109.24.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 126851600 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net with ESMTP id TvKJ1s00r07iGuj01vKKHM; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:19:19 +0100 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 123c2 by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11); Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:19:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 20:19:18 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: shahzaib shahzaib Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes Intermittently !! Message-ID: <20160309191918.GA93884@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: shahzaib shahzaib , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:20:31 -0000 --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 05:24:37PM +0500, shahzaib shahzaib wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am new to this mailing list so please pardon me for any mistakes. We've > started using FreeBSD from past 4-5 months and facing auto-reboot crash > issue since the beginning. Following are the servers specs : >=20 > Supermicro X5690 (12 cores, 24 threads - 2u) > 96GB RAM > 12x3TB mirror+stripping (HBA-LSI9211) > X8DT3 Board >=20 > We've total of 5 supermicro servers built upon same hardware and all of > them intermittently goes down and sometimes they crash and boot up > automatically (within 6min) and sometimes they gets freeze and we've to > manually boot them via IPMI interface. All the time we get 'MCA Internal > Timer Error' in crash logs. Here is the recent one : >=20 > http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c In my experience, random crashes/reboots are almost certainly hardware issu= es. Sometimes a card or memory module isn't seated properly (especially after a machine has been moved). But other times it's things like memory modules or power supplies failing. Sometimes logging things like voltages, CPU temperatures and fan RPM can gi= ve you a clue. At $WORK I've experienced spectacular power supply blow-outs because (conductive) carbon fibers caused a short circuit in it. So dust et cetera = can also be a problem, but usually not with new systems. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJW4HcuAAoJEED21dyjijPgAcAQAKuOadaj2ZpmJM/vI3HjWlvK 7yH59cd1W19KVycwkCCUa/282yqn6s2nFFGZoDtK1SASl6SXFCxn6NvjJZeafq2A YRNN63QP1QXyZMUeJNoaoeBV1AYwuR8btLerLsUOtHxVsgdQujollIm+GR/w2/SI s4lr9x9kQD8LyJAv3vu9ff8ilW8aaF1cC1uXEE1gsHEXSN5w0WD/uSBL03jMES1i 3jvAVpF2Izs+b9sMS9jwN6xI1qnkTduj81U30Zu/H46WGiHA+ClB1X7NI3dp3VDb +KUmpwgNCQagfku8j7iBA0Yrg0PxU1rmGkbwIbNUj9+koAieLuQ04hnraNRHqza9 vi7SXRERjr6eT7vR0JB8Hk8s9eyef1Hw8rTHHSs5TTIuWbXUcDV6PBVgSpjEd+89 6xPU811RYWSUdG4pjFncmaxwzD5Z23VYEDY92R0NZPDUPFUwx0Ed/u6XAjsbDwo3 GvWJKjjZJg4WV2YfLx7pmfemeQ9YdwwUZJDal9GKUV9+18wnqelqV2hrM9x2EuSJ YhM7Dnl0mt1Kjs0zxTHBRKLN43z9RmcP4D1GTbiGNRBKPlmtdzYSXYG1vNA2QdCt 6WbDOuy++uTngbJw2Sw71aqrz5YI/xKcmLx53+TEfpwjP7TBeKX1mSrkBL6WsQ5R MTE5Emg2nLmfdmuHCceC =0p8c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 22:55:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4087EAC993E for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 22:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from mail.lafn.org (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F180D4F for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 22:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (unknown [10.0.1.12]) by mail.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 548E7114C4BB; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 14:54:57 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 14:54:57 -0800 Cc: Polytropon Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 22:55:04 -0000 > On 7 March 2016, at 16:23, Doug Hardie wrote: >=20 >=20 > What I was hoping to find was some form of informal, preliminary = version of the release notes or announcements for 10.3 and 11. I seem = to recall some sort of discussion of that back when the decision was = made to drop bind from the base. I wasn't able to find it though. I recently saw a comment in one of the maillists that 11.0 was likely to = have the new packetized base feature. That tells me that 11.0 is most = likely to be dicey to work with. I am reminded when the new pkg system = came out and the supporting servers were compromised. It caused me a = lot of issues. I still have one production server I can't upgrade the = ports as its setup for the temporary solution. I can't recall what I = changed and making it look like the working systems doesn't help. Thus, = I will skip 11.0 and wait for the dust from that to settle. I'll be = upgrading to 10.3 in June. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 00:38:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB227AC8657 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 00:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S12.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s12.hotmail.com [65.55.111.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54CE529B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 00:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP248 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S12.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:38:37 -0800 X-TMN: [zdBcpzKkKwU8OU/n3I5GjA7heRVYt7kR] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:38:06 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Install PHP module in Apache24 Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2016 00:38:36.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[2ED0DAA0:01D17A65] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 00:38:39 -0000 I am building a brand new server. I installed Apache24 and php56; however, the PHP module was not installed in Apache. What am I doing wrong? Should I choose the "Build Embedded Library" option? I remember a long time ago there was an option to build the apache module, but I do not see that now. -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 01:27:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1412AC99E9 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@ohlste.in) Received: from mail-qk0-x231.google.com (mail-qk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96688DE3 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@ohlste.in) Received: by mail-qk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id s5so28468104qkd.0 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:27:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ohlste-in.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7mCZXQdgYzY5SNHvEyXwbr3yyAjeuhRM5/le1q1xOkw=; b=gKoObmMUQt4IxXt16jsYn2Vuha8VpvI1OP6nLHWhXbPDFAlZh6i/NYHbF4cizWfskt OCJndsrK1hwINOiYBDduRM1rowEMecKfpHbSLsl5eFqWTu3fiwOHMYjJ2EqTvuoVhVps kM7xu5OXaVzJcHcKPXonkGCKMX4jaeTx8/YczZuG0xAwd7Cr8iUJI8m663hvA8GQd7MZ Om+CrYyZJ3/Z4NCFKlNP3WEwLXEmJOTEvOLVyggzukOtT4kG5otzmwKc+mUO4tVRFOMc +vchZ0a0bvpNp7aFqaXvc/+uzWhFuDpbifP/x2/DSulbHfcTfYI+KQ39nt13eclej1g/ e+OA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7mCZXQdgYzY5SNHvEyXwbr3yyAjeuhRM5/le1q1xOkw=; b=DvKIMWj3B2S7UGb4WcQA94p8zlzAypCIp2Uxe6GAZDGD50zwnxI7lFMucaE9MTu5Qm lX69I17li7B8BSp90OfUZzAT6ZT4bUxjbjHWClNgtFCJ1ef8It6aCatcjH6wMPL8wyRC JBZDTwc/LAyhdPhd72+n93/KL6fnfsigGALHlUyq4M1qimQl984x613iNOFPSZD4kJet JjwlyL6xVwp96hlemE0aRighmMii5rcRNhuOZmBRKiMVcbDSEmsGsWqVOGEIPELClL+S oeRCyv59wUCrWL2q7Z4itPIUhtzElAwfiyOwT4HhQ+9OApspL2euoHdKN6fkIhV8LuYG P0vA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJH8DNJOqrTocijzEbI+poWiFjnLRLra2vPC71G134VGQIGt8+owSUgqckbdGnc6g== X-Received: by 10.55.26.86 with SMTP id a83mr820329qka.79.1457573263516; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:470:7:71f::2? (ohlstein-2-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net. [2001:470:7:71f::2]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z62sm673995qka.26.2016.03.09.17.27.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:27:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Install PHP module in Apache24 To: Carmel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Jim Ohlstein Message-ID: <56E0CD8D.6020409@ohlste.in> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 20:27:41 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:27:45 -0000 Hello, On 3/9/16 7:38 PM, Carmel wrote: > I am building a brand new server. I installed Apache24 and php56; > however, the PHP module was not installed in Apache. What am I doing > wrong? Should I choose the "Build Embedded Library" option? I remember > a long time ago there was an option to build the apache module, but I > do not see that now. > The Apache module is now a separate port. You need www/mod_php56. -- Jim Ohlstein "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 01:29:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6373AC9B55 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@potato.growveg.org) Received: from potato.growveg.org (potato.growveg.org [62.49.247.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1041EBC for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@potato.growveg.org) Received: from john by potato.growveg.org with local (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1adpPn-000OUw-QO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:29:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:29:23 +0000 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install PHP module in Apache24 Message-ID: <20160310012923.GA93705@potato.growveg.org> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: john X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:29:32 -0000 On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 07:38:06PM -0500, Carmel wrote: >I am building a brand new server. I installed Apache24 and php56; >however, the PHP module was not installed in Apache. What am I doing >wrong? Should I choose the "Build Embedded Library" option? I remember >a long time ago there was an option to build the apache module, but I >do not see that now. Hi, I think that these days, rather than building the php apache module in apache, one builds it in php. It'll be visible (if I remember correctly, it's one of the options in make config) if yuou're building either php or php extensions from the ports. Also, just because it's built, it doesn't mean apache can use it - it has to be enabled in the httpd config. [1] might be wrong though, it's been a few years. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 01:32:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89BEAC9E50 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from travis.parker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0C61270 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from travis.parker@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id m184so88778981iof.1 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:32:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=66nwDjJU/ViJCCJD0xgxQ1H1iwsqxUgVMY0wGXmk2+w=; b=cLdu9qQ8ppus3PUAjvZ3sOqeOxs+UcTOU+N9595yb6KDmRGQMfZdHe/N86U4at2xYV HGHXvxt5zGq6/kN5tzZj4Y8Q49wrRCw64a83xJFQ3FVgM2GY/sbYK28vK6Q76jY4XNSH AR1yHqe0HOIQp5JEtp6tiR77eyBf5PzDbge1RjTb+7iv0J+6uS0g/uy/j5RdG4TcYi/I q+Ei7rWIMUJLJ66wvABQiPD5PPNrCh7ZQe25Yt9ur8kiDJQlvNEgBkSYopD8POPcWM3M RoJe3SWx4Q5QAtTxXcAVn7i+VhMlJ44jXAqIzl7X6/UCsp4kEeXomfMJibcTpf6Y+Dwq f8dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=66nwDjJU/ViJCCJD0xgxQ1H1iwsqxUgVMY0wGXmk2+w=; b=As+GnGjpcmFiW6wO45eD5BqS6l0Cg71H9DV3Y3dsa8TXWE3eWeOQhwW9yDqoitqFU0 i9dXjavi8/fOGmzuBfWIH9zBoRUJnghUlMvDlzeM+iV3aT0fevPe+3WiHD/D1NbXNnnQ ++zLZ2kBTPAtKeCUR1nS5fdsVkSpPWVkQSAMPyMubpfz0IstAsPy1kzcGLuw6nQDJ1dW nacnZoUmholAPDjvHCcwcNC8732EMhUXude+jJG8bUgdJwnE/Brsg1D5Gtm0WVxF+7Wa Q3D/P2q4oNcmsEQX3JF1MzX/Z6Cy7VdlqSrszrxPQXfhlm0xYIwJbjiLy15ngmkHqKBa FQ+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLZ86YL/ZJkAv+Y1S6ELqZkzb2CTyXkZoFfmKdg+L5Peke9ZQF+hW1epSQ4T1mo8C5e8NxWh62PkhnkSw== X-Received: by 10.107.165.17 with SMTP id o17mr990387ioe.42.1457573574871; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:32:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.142.73 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:32:35 -0800 (PST) From: Travis Parker Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:32:35 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: unresponsive process issue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:32:56 -0000 I've twice now had a process get into a stuck state that I don't believe should be possible: stopped (ps reports 'T', top reports 'STOP'), but unresponsive to any signal, including even CONT (KILL followed by CONT isn't clearing it). It's a redis process, in a jail, that is listening on a streaming unix domain socket. This came to my attention both times because it stops accepting connections on the socket. Also being unresponsive to signals I'm left with no way to interact with it (or get rid of it). truss(1) doesn't see any activity and I couldn't get a backtrace from gdb(1) although there's probably more information to be gleaned with better gdb-foo than mine. It has some 200 connection fds sitting around, but it's configured to accept up to 10000. For the moment I have switched it over to TCP on localhost and I'll have to wait and see if that works around whatever got it into this state (it takes a few days to occur). I wanted to reach out to this list in case there's something obvious I'm missing before mailing freebsd-bugs. I've found a few descriptions of a similar issue (STOP state unresponsive to CONT) from googling, but only back around 2004 and always resolved. Thanks in advance for any help, Travis Parker From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 01:54:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEDBACA57A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F40FBCC7 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DDAA6475 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541A270406E for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=schamschula.com; h=from :content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; s= schamschula.com; bh=CysmB2rIFfaY+DUI3qxtUCpp8Ko=; b=YAUl+JLIrF9e bxHltr2tRCsm0sWS2FqG5jAPZpwrnFz2X8lX4EfSSOrrIquxrYXJ6QZ0mGqJxaw3 Cm2cy6TWQtuKe7GUJVq9IOk0WnA/3RN3T/Oa2wWqJFH/KFvA46sVCdPa2Swt8wYl uMaNohLo8CmeygPc04op1ScVJmhQmzA= Received: from [10.0.1.75] (173-26-108-176.client.mchsi.com [173.26.108.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lists@schamschula.com) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F106570406A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:54:12 -0800 (PST) From: Marius Schamschula Subject: fetch vs openssl Message-Id: <69875912-BE14-4B4F-BF96-72AD37EC7905@schamschula.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:54:37 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:54:20 -0000 Hi all, After running=20 portsnap fetch update under FreeBSD 10.2, I tried running portmaster The result was that none of the source packages would download. As I was only upgrading ownCloud, so I manually downloaded using curl. Given that this will get old in a hurry, I checked a bit further I found = the following: In objdump -x /usr/bin/fetch I find Dynamic Section: NEEDED libfetch.so.6 NEEDED libssl.so.7 NEEDED libcrypto.so.7 NEEDED libc.so.7 #openssl version OpenSSL 1.0.1p-freebsd 9 Jul 2015 # ls -l /usr/lib/libssl.so.7 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 442736 Mar 4 07:44 /usr/lib/libssl.so.7 Were the recent security updates back ported? If so fetch needs to be = rebuilt, likely causing the download failures. Marius -- Marius Schamschula From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 04:20:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E96AC737C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (ol.sdf.org [192.94.73.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ol.sdf.org", Issuer "ol.sdf.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66B75EEB for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:cary@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id u2A4Kdbg021076 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:20:39 GMT Received: (from cary@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id u2A4KiMt015894 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:20:44 GMT Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:20:44 +0000 From: Cary To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install PHP module in Apache24 Message-ID: <20160310042044.GA13982@SDF.ORG> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160310012923.GA93705@potato.growveg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160310012923.GA93705@potato.growveg.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:20:49 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 01:29:23AM +0000, John wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 07:38:06PM -0500, Carmel wrote: > >I am building a brand new server. I installed Apache24 and php56; > >however, the PHP module was not installed in Apache. What am I doing > >wrong? Should I choose the "Build Embedded Library" option? I remember > >a long time ago there was an option to build the apache module, but I > >do not see that now. > > Hi, > > I think that these days, rather than building the php apache module in > apache, one builds it in php. It'll be visible (if I remember > correctly, it's one of the options in make config) if yuou're building > either php or php extensions from the ports. > > Also, just because it's built, it doesn't mean apache can use it - it > has to be enabled in the httpd config. > > [1] might be wrong though, it's been a few years. > -- > John _______________________________________________ https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-apache.html Hi, Be sure to read section 28.8.3.3 of the FreeBSD handbook. Also note the pkg-message for www/mod_php56. here is output of "pkg info -D mod_php56" -> Always: *************************************************************** Make sure index.php is part of your DirectoryIndex. You should add the following to your Apache configuration file: SetHandler application/x-httpd-php SetHandler application/x-httpd-php-source *************************************************************** - good luck -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 06:18:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0BFACA081 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720EBC39 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6E057ACA080; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D975ACA07F for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21971C38 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5153CD7883 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:18:55 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1457590734; x=1459405135; bh=mvurW7IAa wO+BHznpodSe1d4EYpZ+w+DvAfK2OvAr8Y=; b=duJyg5XHVBSphLQoH86O+3IPd QQjHqg0bAGq241nSzdlmdJkM1ACJsWFI0MvoWdg4NxdJA+KGoE2xXICxGxfA9Yk9 1JCcnppONsLAKIDnrgcwB8nWIBT4Otv5qe/8xf+vWgUnhWi+jAFXxr/mpCb6r/4f zljfkaMMb6lgZkkOSw= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 4PO30A5Se_8q for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:18:54 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CC50D7882 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:18:54 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2A6Is2T062410; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:18:54 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c In-Reply-To: <56E00227.1010208@gmail.com> (message from Michael Schuster on Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:59:51 +0100) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:18:53 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:18:59 -0000 Michael, >> In the past, it used to do nothing, but now it kills the shell. > It's been a while since I last used *csh, but I believe "stty" and > "bindkey" may be the things to look into. % bindkey|grep C "^C" -> tty-sigintr It looks normal to me. % stty -a [...] cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; That too. Thanks. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 06:27:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B05AACA416 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5C3156D for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6B5EEACA415; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C61ACA414 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0616D156B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58B1D7882 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:27:45 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1457591264; x=1459405665; bh=EUiCcpXS/ eXUQRUm82ni79dpAmbXz2Zrh/Kqt5sJLgI=; b=m073il0kGLPJWZMjZfSw0e1om 3RaqlPb1rCOiDxKmD7l2eWHGrURe0IMVESgYxiGvQo9jAVxALhF1R30fpiCJxlXq FlxczLdxp4jcSGxvZyW/fOlmnSmEkBFl8uDTiUC+coO5omS6kvJhHA1mdv6d4Ckm zsHe24995sJR5v1S98= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id tNr752YZM2rO for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:27:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E787D7881 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:27:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2A6RiqA062433; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:27:44 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c In-Reply-To: <20160309131906.eca65270.freebsd@edvax.de> (message from Polytropon on Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:19:06 +0100) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:27:44 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:27:48 -0000 Hi, >> I have that very annoying feature lately: /bin/csh will close when I >> type CTRL-C. > > Somehow this sounds familiar! Can you provide what configuration > change you made prior to this behaviour? > > For control characters, check the output of "stty -a". Here is > an example where Ctrl+C acts as intended: > > % stty -a > [...] > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; > eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; > status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > > Where does ^C appear in your output? % stty -a cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > The shell also exits on "end of input", which is ^D (eof) which > can be prevented by "set ignoreeof". > > > >> I am not sure how this feature even hapened, it seems it does not affect >> all the systems I have. >> >> Any idea? > > Changes to /etc/csh.cshrc or ~/.cshrc? No, the only change is from FreeBSD 10.1 to 10.2. But now I have something even more puzzling: banyan41: csh -f % CTRL-C % CTRL-C % CTRL-C % echo oo bar oo bar % CTRL-C % CTRL-C % CTRL-C % uname -a FreeBSD banyan.cs.ait.ac.th 10.2-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p12 #2 r295233: Thu Feb 18 13:42:07 ICT 2016 root@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CSIM amd64 % CTRL-C banyan42: I start a csheel with no environment, no startscript. CTRL-C does nothing until I execute the 1st command. Then it terminates the shell. Whatever the command be (if it is not a shell internal command). I had the same behavious on xterm and on console and on any 64bits system. 32 bits are immune. I think I may have to report that as a bug. What do you think? Bestregards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 07:01:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA3FACA207 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5D97D0 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2BFB5ACA206; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B92AACA205 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E95177CF for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D04533CE90; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:00:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2A70tNn004245; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:00:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:00:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Olivier Nicole Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c Message-Id: <20160310080055.49f0702a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20160309131906.eca65270.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:01:02 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:27:44 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > I think I may have to report that as a bug. > > What do you think? Definitely. This problem is so strange it warrants a bug report. Your configuration doesn't seem to contain anything abnormal, however the behaviour you've seen is far from what to expect... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 08:59:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BBDAC7861 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 247941ECD for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u2A8xINZ035696; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:59:19 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases To: Doug Hardie , FreeBSD Questions References: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: Polytropon From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <56E13766.4040604@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:59:18 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:59:29 -0000 On 09/03/2016 22:54, Doug Hardie wrote: > >> On 7 March 2016, at 16:23, Doug Hardie wrote: >> >> What I was hoping to find was some form of informal, preliminary >> version of the release notes or announcements for 10.3 and 11. I >> seem to recall some sort of discussion of that back when the >> decision was made to drop bind from the base. I wasn't able to >> find it though. > > I recently saw a comment in one of the maillists that 11.0 was > likely to have the new packetized base feature. That tells me that > 11.0 is most likely to be dicey to work with. I am reminded when > the new pkg system came out and the supporting servers were > compromised. It caused me a lot of issues. I still have one > production server I can't upgrade the ports as its setup for the > temporary solution. I can't recall what I changed and making it > look like the working systems doesn't help. Thus, I will skip 11.0 > and wait for the dust from that to settle. I'll be upgrading to > 10.3 in June. It's always worth remembering the old bit of computing folklore that IBM defined "the lunatic fringe" as those who took the x.0 release of any software. When 11.0 comes out I'll wait a week to see if there are any loud screams and then try it out on my desktop, as boot environments make it easy to roll back. If it tests out OK, then I'll deploy it to my servers. Unlike many other pieces of software, I've rarely had any problems with an x.0 release of FBSD, which says a lot about the release team's competence. Most of the problems I've seen raised come from people not reading the release notes properly, like the "what's happened to bind?" problems with 10.0. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 10:14:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782B2ACABD5 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahzaib.cb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x233.google.com (mail-io0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4378094F for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahzaib.cb@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x233.google.com with SMTP id n190so100266774iof.0 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:14:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=IvldfXHBSFPEQM47HNuDHndX2xXcJJcKMH5lTMRC0bk=; b=jKVg+ww3eTy79DYa84+rz7glljN2NIQEohlCnx4PGLuLuuUIe49rPDV/g1n/bJKCha mvO3bThyq1lijXWH7oaK2JpLLB+CPbj3f3joQT+G4H1c5b4asxURy8jQB2wkhJPjGhdl W9BYzKM8KYNXSxL2nzIAelrh0JLSxVUFnU2WEcIJwzOAnSwQQWqbwh87EkHVYcNXNabv rmriEf6pqUVHANv463qnqx+opRAujRGjsGlcoOX9V77OpE5nuofJvEdc6967aZCoZMBc d51Qogau/t5DvG0v5zYZy7ajQ1YVGVGwRJcsAteV+uCS5sY1BtKyAmvZcCU3aSMiDWpr SSZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=IvldfXHBSFPEQM47HNuDHndX2xXcJJcKMH5lTMRC0bk=; b=HEUh9vwxpTGgtqScFg+G8tK2KkZPSWeTK84rVofxiJeqAPWRXNtg8X9m9D2QFeYAUL R5pm/yTruHW5xz/T3iJ3FiPUgxiqYLxhJWioJfZEkYCyRgdXiaT9d8E3BL0rZAisz+Tt i9QlV7j8HjFV/GmilRTrI+2lccszHYNL0cCY9k+EoV4GcsEQpSHlXJ60PN5RtgW9k3CZ tRAgBWelRoCcFwa6eXrT1G2i+hfE3yrsZAdww/AYb4vc8kVlO4+HoO4d3rIAqV95H3Zs sbQqH3QqNY6COMUWm+7yq4+3bKWdf76ZOwSPuYucCOS78Hh+dy+Dgxb8EaIAwjx/dfIF gPJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIu+Xb+K82QoYHlB8bkw4OXimbOLPrRBDbzm/lmXTfmbseiYJhLP+Ac2HGC4Tv9cfpRhmSnk0hmSRixpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.14.142 with SMTP id 136mr2543928ioo.94.1457604893529; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.128.145 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:14:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160309191918.GA93884@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20160309191918.GA93884@slackbox.erewhon.home> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:14:53 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes Intermittently !! From: shahzaib shahzaib To: shahzaib shahzaib , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:14:54 -0000 Hi, Thanks for all your detailed explanation to help me as much as you can - very much appreciated your assistance :) . Now we've deployed 5 x Dell r510 / Controller LSi-9211 to run same services on them and i guess that's the only way to diagnose actual cause of the crash. If Dell do not crash then conclusion would be Faulty Hardware. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 05:24:37PM +0500, shahzaib shahzaib wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am new to this mailing list so please pardon me for any mistakes. We've > > started using FreeBSD from past 4-5 months and facing auto-reboot crash > > issue since the beginning. Following are the servers specs : > > > > Supermicro X5690 (12 cores, 24 threads - 2u) > > 96GB RAM > > 12x3TB mirror+stripping (HBA-LSI9211) > > X8DT3 Board > > > > We've total of 5 supermicro servers built upon same hardware and all of > > them intermittently goes down and sometimes they crash and boot up > > automatically (within 6min) and sometimes they gets freeze and we've to > > manually boot them via IPMI interface. All the time we get 'MCA Internal > > Timer Error' in crash logs. Here is the recent one : > > > > http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c > > In my experience, random crashes/reboots are almost certainly hardware > issues. > Sometimes a card or memory module isn't seated properly (especially after a > machine has been moved). But other times it's things like memory modules or > power supplies failing. > > Sometimes logging things like voltages, CPU temperatures and fan RPM can > give > you a clue. > > At $WORK I've experienced spectacular power supply blow-outs because > (conductive) carbon fibers caused a short circuit in it. So dust et cetera > can > also be a problem, but usually not with new systems. > > Roland > > -- > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 12:04:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896D9AC93AA for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3116D1E2 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u2AC45CX001045 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:04:05 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) To: FreeBSD-Questions From: Arthur Chance Subject: Are system updates without reboots possible? Message-ID: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:04:05 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:04:08 -0000 The latest security advisory on openssl contains the usual mantra "Restart all deamons using the library, or reboot the system." I usually just reboot but find myself wondering if there's a reliable *automatic* way of identifying which running programs use any given library (or set of libraries), and identify whether or not they're daemons controlled by service(8). I suppose root could use ps and ldd to identify affected programs, but this seems like brute force and I can't see how to tie into the service(8) structure. Anybody got ideas on this? It could be useful for updating servers you'd rather not reboot. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 12:08:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F02AC96FA for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S20.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s20.hotmail.com [65.55.111.159]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C08668A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP105 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S20.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:08:45 -0800 X-TMN: [qfvczXbE7AIAOCp1h/lkVn2AgdcQuWiO] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:08:15 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-update problem Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2016 12:08:45.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[9841CC50:01D17AC5] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:08:46 -0000 I recently installed FreeBSD 11-0 current on a new machine. Now, when I attempt to run "freebsd-update fetch", I receive the following error message. src component not installed, skipped Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org ... failed (above repeated several times with different URLs) No mirrors remaining, giving up. What am I doing wrong? -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 12:28:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FA7ACA4DC for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6F614CD for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4669A3DC05E; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:28:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=Xoc3mEmZB06lPPjZ2UGrJX+yOvo=; b= jhWBAA5xFJkdnJvU/fVCunx5vD8zC5SWcVbX0pKRRIVMvFpntyI9SqZzKx5b9z3E gmPSihzzK8edd9F0Y7yJ6U+hwK4HCy688fRY/8DSjrzY7qSWRydX3KgWuOs0p5JW WhSonKEv3dqmBEZ3jItEwXmRyDJvO016b00KicHsJs4= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (220-253-30-44.dyn.iinet.net.au [220.253.30.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C59093DC05B; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 183D68E7; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Carmel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problem Message-ID: <20160310122831.GA31677@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:28:42 -0000 On Thu 2016-03-10 07:08:15 UTC-0500, Carmel (carmel_ny@outlook.com) wrote: > I recently installed FreeBSD 11-0 current on a new machine. Now, when I > attempt to run "freebsd-update fetch", I receive the following error > message. > > src component not installed, skipped > Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org ... failed > (above repeated several times with different URLs) > No mirrors remaining, giving up. > > What am I doing wrong? >From the freebsd-update man page: "Note that updates are only available if they are being built for the FreeBSD release and architecture being used; in particular, the FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, e.g., FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE and FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE, but not FreeBSD 9.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 11-CURRENT." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 12:32:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A117DACA823 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantin@schukraft.org) Received: from server949-han.de-nserver.de (server949-han.de-nserver.de [77.75.250.185]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 404191A60 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantin@schukraft.org) Received: (qmail 19840 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2016 13:32:02 +0100 X-Fcrdns: Yes Received: from schukraft.it (HELO [10.0.1.109]) (80.147.5.44) (smtp-auth username konstantin@schukraft.org, mechanism plain) by server949-han.de-nserver.de (qpsmtpd/0.92) with (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:32:02 +0100 Subject: Re: unresponsive process issue To: Travis Parker , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Konstantin Schukraft X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56E1693C.4070603@schukraft.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:31:56 +0000 User-Agent: "" MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-User-Auth: Auth by konstantin@schukraft.org through 80.147.5.44 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:32:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 03/10/2016 01:32, Travis Parker wrote: > I've twice now had a process get into a stuck state that I don't > believe should be possible: stopped (ps reports 'T', top reports > 'STOP'), but unresponsive to any signal, including even CONT (KILL > followed by CONT isn't clearing it). It's a redis process, in a > jail, that is listening on a streaming unix domain socket. I see the same thing happening here with long running processes in jails. In my case it's firefox and thunderbird. At first I thought it's yet another firefox bug that somehow creeped into the thunderbird codebase (I don't know how disjunct those are). When it happens, they completely stop responding to signals (including a kill -9) and their graphical UI stops responding at least partly. E.g. I sometimes can still select other tabs in firefox, but it only updates the window title, not the actual content. > For the moment I have switched it over to TCP on localhost and I'll > have to wait and see if that works around whatever got it into this > state (it takes a few days to occur). I can confirm this timescale of a few days. > I wanted to reach out to this list in case there's something > obvious I'm missing before mailing freebsd-bugs. I've found a few > descriptions of a similar issue (STOP state unresponsive to CONT) > from googling, but only back around 2004 and always resolved. Since we seem to have the same core problem, please send that bug report. I can at least corroborate your findings, if nothing else. 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Message-Id: <20160310131311.95dcd6c66c6dbf60339a2df0@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> References: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:13:35 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:04:05 +0000 Arthur Chance wrote: > The latest security advisory on openssl contains the usual mantra > > "Restart all deamons using the library, or reboot the system." > > I usually just reboot but find myself wondering if there's a reliable > *automatic* way of identifying which running programs use any given > library (or set of libraries), and identify whether or not they're > daemons controlled by service(8). > > I suppose root could use ps and ldd to identify affected programs, but > this seems like brute force and I can't see how to tie into the > service(8) structure. > > Anybody got ideas on this? It could be useful for updating servers you'd > rather not reboot. You could just apply brute force and use service -R to restart all services or reboot if the update included a new kernel. Overkill but safe. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 14:05:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BB7ACB3F6 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ragu.foss@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A488F47 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ragu.foss@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ob0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id fz5so81498546obc.0 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:05:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=VTFVdVM/y3VPRtqeU54sfqyGY6BehKbrPjAI3jJg1mo=; b=KcEPBRiM30frhHGKBj4OV2AQ3mxdD8DjV3lLjk/YVYQbhsJ03NbYzcPn72L7P0VPCg JnTaE+0DbwiyX16BtirGVvHNuG9HaeF8f6IVc2Phfwk0ZL8zv1BgcX7gyCBDh+Bre9mz +8wlatEskwJFcyDfgR7MxTHvjfQYPXxt5tNxMymvCtj2TEx2ytxgG1ZwmBRPApEKQf6g Oy/KF+GKkrJy3QrIvYAeAECWsf+SDxmRIJybXpMUkJHYjkjyDx+f6AIFAD6wZTni3TTs +MQ9lzmJfymOly0suT7XxsKAk5rqZebWPL5ctxYRrae9yaQeBULzgwN/MVIzKFzZVkgW 9CyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=VTFVdVM/y3VPRtqeU54sfqyGY6BehKbrPjAI3jJg1mo=; b=bhgmWefZVdYuflR6fdFDrCgq5EF3O2JKO5cJv7oSBBXO8X47jGxA/1OH3I624I4q6H ezwVzJWBb+t7ut2x13YIMl2dwJUbzhR6iJ3mzkZbBqYQegR2Z/YtHnvkUIVBPANsOC2A ggHNq0XrFzQP1jX6Tf5lYIAi0F06+neAXeUnxSd5u414mJYrPGBlgqx6+6+3q9D9jaj3 r32IMZTyz25v4FvcnTZtxaJF1feefN9YyjjTN9IYOAIE8LDSSiOYp93WQ9Mf/8nsA7yG UW6O5rTo6uG3Qhak18XtZy5pJuenAkYTWW0IOh10v16t3myYRGXV/j08ZUjl9xAb1/9m tc7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJ3mpJi+wBrPeCvrHfXaPoygcKkh5qYO2jC5ejwLUVJKZMwL4QJ7DmasJXV5IZQmhAGLOV5nzAvhMjmMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.17.135 with SMTP id o7mr2142722oed.25.1457618715698; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.195.6 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:05:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:35:15 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: TAP (/dev/tap0) interface payload not delivered to user space From: ragu foss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:05:16 -0000 Hi All, I am studying how tun/tap interface works in FreeBSD. I wrote an application where I am trying to receive packets in user space through tap interface. For this, I open the tap device (/dev/tap0) and read from it. I am configuring the tap interface with the following configurations ifconfig tap0 create ifconfig tap0 inet 192.168.1.32/24 Then I ping the ip "ping 192.168.1.45". The problem is, I am receiving only the header of the packet. I am reading only 42 (Ethernet header (14) + IP header (20) + ICMP (8) ) bytes always. Whatever be the value of the ping payload size (ping -s 100 192.168.1.45), I am reading the same 42 bytes in the application. Is this is expected behaviour? If yes, what should I do to receive the whole packet? Thanks, Ragunath From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 14:15:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63168ACB80B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08FA8872 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u2AEFcws001772; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:15:39 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Are system updates without reboots possible? To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> <20160310131311.95dcd6c66c6dbf60339a2df0@sohara.org> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <56E1818A.1060604@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:15:38 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160310131311.95dcd6c66c6dbf60339a2df0@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:15:42 -0000 On 10/03/2016 13:13, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:04:05 +0000 > Arthur Chance wrote: > >> The latest security advisory on openssl contains the usual mantra >> >> "Restart all deamons using the library, or reboot the system." >> >> I usually just reboot but find myself wondering if there's a reliable >> *automatic* way of identifying which running programs use any given >> library (or set of libraries), and identify whether or not they're >> daemons controlled by service(8). >> >> I suppose root could use ps and ldd to identify affected programs, but >> this seems like brute force and I can't see how to tie into the >> service(8) structure. >> >> Anybody got ideas on this? It could be useful for updating servers you'd >> rather not reboot. > > You could just apply brute force and use service -R to restart all > services or reboot if the update included a new kernel. Overkill but safe. > I'd missed the -R option for service(8). Thanks for pointing that out. However, that only restarts daemons from /usr/local/etc/rc.d, not built-in system daemons from /etc/rc.d. Neither does it let me identify non-daemon running programs that are affected by a library update. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 15:18:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D2DACB6D8 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92C0714B4 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id p65so33100399wmp.0 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:17:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=i3VJnNsqir26EUOwptA/17SZyxv1LbgqmYrpZKaCdWs=; b=j6cOja0WIYJN2po5lzSXIfRLDERc8R4Mk7xdg1cH+DKmv6Kj6TquP5IIgMyzAZcYZp 6rqsjr2DdYjtzQzZVvH2uMzt7b8E/+ZOExHUFU27yHk9lNKvoxV+WjzFUhEED8YljVTJ IfvH4EZHKR4jI+LaHs0aHdEM66GzM2lyfC0xyKNaiBU9EhQp4TzeM/+qh6NQ6KhdVE5Z sP+4Xjf7hVIJ69Nz+ihj5GhOqKZwpzXI6geI9ixX4kmFLQUO72NFtSc8cy8S3NUSk7K1 DQNT+you3rP42DQVBlwQWB9k4d/L7sCb6lgPh+ccKWT37MrWKzvB12O5pTUMsH7gag04 aYlQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=i3VJnNsqir26EUOwptA/17SZyxv1LbgqmYrpZKaCdWs=; b=O9IcB9Ck1a8I+KEwGhwwTOfjuj+HTuypDaui7Yl50BQ7TaWtgiI/+2Al23P6jDIACB VrPdCg0jz9kO8pecLrB9HDMMKydGj5XsP4fsiInnk7yFneem6NKclqrxXrsOdf83HMXc HPWE586bpsi+jJui23pbhdjAxHTETj7QKRn3ZJQ+ULVyN4LC743OenuBf3qe2S8GhAZb +q83rxGVeAd/9oQTJGpZTlKP0V84Wc4x9TLyX4cBiRnbSxpvLEwCXxNyoEkhuNSPxxi7 S6lHWUU92P0gqmDy4tGVPGct1fdV69I+qVaybmnjUuAld3RfT9pq+yiLrevAYBkKZROA W2yA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKRPlMKo7gXpIByBYFuSyEfLmGztNRrfFf/rniyA8Hjb8jQMBsNaEhDqeurEZ7QkU2PMvy/OK5Il7p/sA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.83.42 with SMTP id n10mr4586011wjy.20.1457623077996; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.31.143 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160310143834.GA16507@neutralgood.org> References: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> <20160310143834.GA16507@neutralgood.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:17:57 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are system updates without reboots possible? From: krad To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: Arthur Chance , FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:18:00 -0000 >From what i remember there is an equivalent of linux pivot mount coming in freebsd 11. Doing that technically isn't a reboot, but it will definitely ensure everything is restarted. Is there any motive to this though, as the safest way is to create a new boot env with the new patched stuff in, and then reboot. You have fail back then, incase of issues. On 10 March 2016 at 14:38, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:04:05PM +0000, Arthur Chance wrote: > > The latest security advisory on openssl contains the usual mantra > > > > "Restart all deamons using the library, or reboot the system." > > > > I usually just reboot but find myself wondering if there's a reliable > > *automatic* way of identifying which running programs use any given > > library (or set of libraries), and identify whether or not they're > > daemons controlled by service(8). > > > > I suppose root could use ps and ldd to identify affected programs, but > > this seems like brute force and I can't see how to tie into the > > service(8) structure. > > > > Anybody got ideas on this? It could be useful for updating servers you'd > > rather not reboot. > > You can use lsof to see which processes have a library open. If they're > using the library then they'll have it open. > > This does nothing to help connect back to service(8), however. > -- > Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ > > "Nonbelievers found it difficult to defend their position in \ > the presense of a working computer." -- a DEC Jensen paper > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 16:16:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38A9AC954A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s2.hotmail.com [65.55.111.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6982CEB1 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP60 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:16:14 -0800 X-TMN: [C5SULqBfNpW9EyYxZpteCDXHc/epM4W/] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:16:12 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SSH and FreeBSD-11 Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2016 16:16:13.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AB8A3C0:01D17AE8] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:16:21 -0000 After just installing FreeBSD 11 on a new machine, I have noticed the following error messages upon boot: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Starting sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Those keys do not exist in "/etc/ssh". The directory looks like this: drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 12B 2016-03-10 10:07:21 EST ./ drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 112B 2016-03-10 10:36:32 EST ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 293K 2016-03-08 02:07:32 EST moduli -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1.7K 2016-03-08 02:07:32 EST ssh_config -rw------- 1 root wheel 227B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST ssh_host_ecdsa_key -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 188B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub -rw------- 1 root wheel 419B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST ssh_host_ed25519_key -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 108B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub -rw------- 1 root wheel 1.6K 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST ssh_host_rsa_key -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 408B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST ssh_host_rsa_key.pub -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3.7K 2016-03-10 10:23:15 EST sshd_config Is there something that I have to do? I never had this problem with earlier versions of FreeBSD. -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 16:18:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1985FAC9655 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B627716 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB43718C775 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9953418C308 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.254.7] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160309131906.eca65270.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160310080055.49f0702a.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Steve Burton Message-ID: <56E19D06.9080608@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:12:54 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160310080055.49f0702a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-MDF-HostID: 18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:18:47 -0000 On 10/03/2016 07:00, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:27:44 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> I think I may have to report that as a bug. >> >> What do you think? > Definitely. This problem is so strange it warrants a bug report. > Your configuration doesn't seem to contain anything abnormal, > however the behaviour you've seen is far from what to expect... > > I've just tried this and CTRL-C closes my C Shell sessions too. # uname -a FreeBSD proliant.webdev.my.domain 10.2-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p9 #0: Thu Jan 14 06:57:14 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 17:47:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6BACBE80 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38CF5A2B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u2AHlPIT002941; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:26 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases To: "Kevin P. Neal" References: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de> <56E13766.4040604@qeng-ho.org> <20160310142439.GA10530@neutralgood.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <56E1B32D.5070806@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:25 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160310142439.GA10530@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:29 -0000 On 10/03/2016 14:24, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 08:59:18AM +0000, Arthur Chance wrote: >> It's always worth remembering the old bit of computing folklore that IBM >> defined "the lunatic fringe" as those who took the x.0 release of any >> software. >> >> When 11.0 comes out I'll wait a week to see if there are any loud >> screams and then try it out on my desktop, as boot environments make it >> easy to roll back. If it tests out OK, then I'll deploy it to my >> servers. Unlike many other pieces of software, I've rarely had any >> problems with an x.0 release of FBSD, which says a lot about the release >> team's competence. Most of the problems I've seen raised come from >> people not reading the release notes properly, like the "what's happened >> to bind?" problems with 10.0. > > The unfortunate thing is that not running a ".0" release only works out > well if fraction of the people avoid it. If everyone avoids it then the > ".1" release becomes the new ".0" release. > Firstly it was a joke about the quality of IBM software back in the days when they thought they owned the market whatever they did. Secondly, it's my experience that the "lunatic fringe" is a sizeable fraction of users (me included) - there are a significant number round here who test beta releases as well. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 17:53:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2169EACA19E for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA2CFDF3 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u2AHrF9w002970; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:53:15 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Are system updates without reboots possible? To: krad References: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> <20160310143834.GA16507@neutralgood.org> Cc: FreeBSD-Questions From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <56E1B48B.2080908@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:53:15 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:53:17 -0000 On 10/03/2016 15:17, krad wrote: > From what i remember there is an equivalent of linux pivot mount coming in > freebsd 11. Doing that technically isn't a reboot, but it will definitely > ensure everything is restarted. > > Is there any motive to this though, as the safest way is to create a new > boot env with the new patched stuff in, and then reboot. You have fail back > then, incase of issues. Partly pure curiosity, partly wishing to minimise server downtime. I know reboots are the safest way, I currently always reboot. However, I've never had problems with a security update, so I wondered if I could avoid even the small amount of down time a reboot takes. I've been looking at Erlang & Elixir recently and love the ability to update running code without interruption in suitably written servers. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. 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[174.30.194.239]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jh9sm1884652igb.4.2016.03.10.10.08.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:08:31 -0800 (PST) References: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> <20160310131311.95dcd6c66c6dbf60339a2df0@sohara.org> <56E1818A.1060604@qeng-ho.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.15; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Arthur Chance Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are system updates without reboots possible? In-reply-to: <56E1818A.1060604@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:08:35 -0600 Message-ID: <86pov2tdcs.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 18:08:39 -0000 Arthur Chance writes: > I'd missed the -R option for service(8). Thanks for pointing that out. > > However, that only restarts daemons from /usr/local/etc/rc.d, not > built-in system daemons from /etc/rc.d. Have a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf. The number of daemons enabled by default is tiny, and updates that affect them are (as far as I can tell) particular to them---i.e. you need to restart syslogd if and only if syslogd gets updated. The long and short of it is that services that are both enabled and depend on third-party libraries are almost certainly such because you enabled and configured them to be such yourself. Either you set up your own SMTP server that you configured to send SSL-signed mail over the Internet with your own custom Sendmail configuration, or you did not. Or your system is running a Poudriere package build service that signs all built packages with an OpenSSL certificate that you created yourself and serves them up with an HTTP server that you installed and configured to use that certificate, or it is not. So there should not be a case in which you are completely in the dark about whether a running service is directly affected by a base system update and needs to be restarted. > Neither does it let me identify non-daemon running programs that are > affected by a library update. Did you have something in particular in mind? I can't think of anything that would fall into that category. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: :: 'The best design is the least design possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 19:26:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD61ACAC1B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09A4E72 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:26:13 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ae6Dr-000LTG-E2; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:26:11 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:26:06 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" Cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are system updates without reboots possible? Message-Id: <20160310192606.236f7cf67da677e7324367b7@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <86pov2tdcs.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <56E162B5.4010309@qeng-ho.org> <20160310131311.95dcd6c66c6dbf60339a2df0@sohara.org> <56E1818A.1060604@qeng-ho.org> <86pov2tdcs.fsf@WorkBox.Home> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:26:43 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:08:35 -0600 "Brandon J. Wandersee" wrote: > > Arthur Chance writes: > > > I'd missed the -R option for service(8). Thanks for pointing that out. > > > > However, that only restarts daemons from /usr/local/etc/rc.d, not > > built-in system daemons from /etc/rc.d. > > Have a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf. The number of daemons enabled by > default is tiny, and updates that affect them are (as far as I can tell) > particular to them---i.e. you need to restart syslogd if and only if > syslogd gets updated. Or one of the shared libraries linked into syslogd gets updated. > The long and short of it is that services that are both enabled and > depend on third-party libraries are almost certainly such because you > enabled and configured them to be such yourself. Third party libraries are only part of the issue - what to restart after running freebsd-update is the real question, but yes handling pkg upgrade as well would be nice. > Either you set up your > own SMTP server that you configured to send SSL-signed mail over the > Internet with your own custom Sendmail configuration, or you did not. Or > your system is running a Poudriere package build service that signs all > built packages with an OpenSSL certificate that you created yourself and > serves them up with an HTTP server that you installed and configured to > use that certificate, or it is not. So there should not be a case in which > you are completely in the dark about whether a running service is > directly affected by a base system update and needs to be restarted. I can always work it out - or if I'm feeling lazy reboot. 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All new keys should be generated then. Alternatively just read the man page for ssh-keygen and create a dsa keypair. On 10 March 2016 at 16:16, Carmel wrote: > After just installing FreeBSD 11 on a new machine, I have noticed the > following error messages upon boot: > > Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key > Starting sshd > Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key > > Those keys do not exist in "/etc/ssh". The directory looks like this: > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 12B 2016-03-10 10:07:21 EST ./ > drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 112B 2016-03-10 10:36:32 EST ../ > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 293K 2016-03-08 02:07:32 EST moduli > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1.7K 2016-03-08 02:07:32 EST ssh_config > -rw------- 1 root wheel 227B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > ssh_host_ecdsa_key > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 188B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub > -rw------- 1 root wheel 419B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > ssh_host_ed25519_key > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 108B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub > -rw------- 1 root wheel 1.6K 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST ssh_host_rsa_key > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 408B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > ssh_host_rsa_key.pub > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3.7K 2016-03-10 10:23:15 EST sshd_config > > Is there something that I have to do? I never had this problem with > earlier versions of FreeBSD. > > -- > Carmel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 08:36:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BBDACA3A9 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhao6014@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x230.google.com (mail-yw0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84039E1 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhao6014@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x230.google.com with SMTP id g127so88598489ywf.2 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:36:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=AEawZGzbin8Q9DW6Gh2nozg0pjKKddbGFasPoYvI4L0=; b=brA6xFmrZrSvxjczgQQ+X5JQcOsSOFkwr3WKvPoN6eD7aU2Qx8P4mJ/5zCuDoQA0od W0ic0rRvh4AkkMy4Jq8e2oEmIMgXv4Nh0uejsq20jmBBkKYtggn9zyKY2tQrELntDVBB u+OsF9pMTXvl15BUnLzzblN8qG2vHaHFqfUzWUDfGURO9Jul7hVGR56n26/C4GOrPrqb QAziYh21QwKwcdIdYprdNwkNeuXtfVMnkdQb+Huq+vqaDLNr8JV4oH+TGHxOywcKvOz3 aHOAsjlXKDTa4MR2crAg2jQ+Ix6CimGCrso6oInRwgmOhJsCHD5Pz181C+Q8039o9IPg /cDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=AEawZGzbin8Q9DW6Gh2nozg0pjKKddbGFasPoYvI4L0=; b=XxCx26HC0Gp46GJiXvJYV2mvCts7QIFNsY8qKGjwJr1Y3OmrffpJEkZkVdJWZySKJ0 NN9meuz8cX3/rbHqa9E7qNwGdrDVNcN6DgrXasF1rzHSfV+iV2wD4auTJmE/v2hUW+TL qmM4gMC9VCaO3sPtKHyNKmBBRTj9rXVCrzDehVEMvKtKtAL5+/UcQLuQJnte6uHn8ErH qR6IrT6nPLbK1tdMPlGDj2aMEuqN1bN95vEdBhi0W5242ChYrIj2aYNGMljIIlj0ty/z 9EPycHmkvfvsD5v5TUqkzuHTWVsl1ZXwwoiE8cm51fB1J1a6lklka3GZ+obLYD/mRHdr 5/7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKEjhruJgB+BNrKKBBa8FskaBchsaN5zx2FKdU+8UU0WR3kjerS7g1KSjpQOlVXJgYrN7ksE2I2BtFQpw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.233.68 with SMTP id s65mr4635466ywe.96.1457685362735; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.89.194 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.89.194 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:36:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:36:02 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SSH and FreeBSD-11 From: Jov To: krad Cc: Carmel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:36:03 -0000 openssh in freebsd 11 will not generate dsa host key any more=EF=BC=8CI ha= ve a pr about this. 2016=E5=B9=B43=E6=9C=8811=E6=97=A5 3:54 PM=EF=BC=8C"krad" =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > ITs probably easyist to delete the existing keys in there, then rerun the > rc script. All new keys should be generated then. Alternatively just read > the man page for ssh-keygen and create a dsa keypair. > > On 10 March 2016 at 16:16, Carmel wrote: > > > After just installing FreeBSD 11 on a new machine, I have noticed the > > following error messages upon boot: > > > > Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key > > Starting sshd > > Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key > > > > Those keys do not exist in "/etc/ssh". The directory looks like this: > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 12B 2016-03-10 10:07:21 EST ./ > > drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 112B 2016-03-10 10:36:32 EST ../ > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 293K 2016-03-08 02:07:32 EST moduli > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1.7K 2016-03-08 02:07:32 EST ssh_config > > -rw------- 1 root wheel 227B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > > ssh_host_ecdsa_key > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 188B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > > ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub > > -rw------- 1 root wheel 419B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > > ssh_host_ed25519_key > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 108B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > > ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub > > -rw------- 1 root wheel 1.6K 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > ssh_host_rsa_key > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 408B 2016-03-09 13:00:54 EST > > ssh_host_rsa_key.pub > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3.7K 2016-03-10 10:23:15 EST sshd_config > > > > Is there something that I have to do? I never had this problem with > > earlier versions of FreeBSD. > > > > -- > > Carmel > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 10:00:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C10ACCA40 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s2.hotmail.com [65.55.111.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82A68860 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP5 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:00:45 -0800 X-TMN: [fse+CPjqL5xbUbjvjx90c+xof7IjMYhN] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 05:00:42 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH and FreeBSD-11 In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2016 10:00:45.0164 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1024AC0:01D17B7C] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:00:47 -0000 On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:54:37 +0000, krad stated: > ITs probably easyist to delete the existing keys in there, then rerun > the rc script. All new keys should be generated then. Alternatively > just read the man page for ssh-keygen and create a dsa keypair. Which "rc script"? -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 10:02:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E085CACCD05 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S11.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s11.hotmail.com [65.55.111.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1E88C82 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP83 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S11.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:01:32 -0800 X-TMN: [4oTaGkugVR88hfhBtqoKLS6RqKH0fXcD] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 05:01:30 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH and FreeBSD-11 In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2016 10:01:32.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCFA2C70:01D17B7C] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:02:40 -0000 On Fri=2C 11 Mar 2016 16:36:02 +0800=2C Jov stated: > openssh in freebsd 11 will not generate dsa host key any more=EF=BC=8CI > have a pr about this. Thanks=2C I did not know it was a known issue. I had not read anything about it. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 11:30:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAEFACCB4A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48240C0A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 296AE83FE for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/296AE83FE; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: SSH and FreeBSD-11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56E2AC3F.2050907@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:30:07 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jHQsJaG3unM6289O2ce5NBIK0fnoVHF29" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:30:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --jHQsJaG3unM6289O2ce5NBIK0fnoVHF29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/11/16 10:01, Carmel wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:36:02 +0800, Jov stated: >=20 >> > openssh in freebsd 11 will not generate dsa host key any more=EF=BC= =8CI >> > have a pr about this. > Thanks, I did not know it was a known issue. I had not read anything > about it. This site is quite instructive about where current SSH ciphers etc. have known weaknesses: http://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html DSA keys will have been deprecated because they only allow a 1024bit modulus, and that's now known to be vulnerable to attack. It takes quite a well resourced attacker to do so right now, but Moore's law will soon make that club a lot less exclusive. Cheers, Matthew --jHQsJaG3unM6289O2ce5NBIK0fnoVHF29 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJW4qw/AAoJEABRPxDgqeTn8lIP/3SJutEVrGuF89ZPm+tHNyds vkY+eSpn9RaOgPeIYDmCSEdQWvqMjPTelXZ+bXGWqd+E/FdUG87UvwpX3ssDOwHl T8oeJxQJONyJ+NVuwpgjqjtGirTtFIHpO+4GtNb4TLEIz/2RWIdQFZB93/RTnCyK 5zgEvxIQ+IylQhSg2UW+2mnEVTg/LDhmsfUgRCtCyLXJD6aBJzhBJYGJ6TJP9g5b NTTdB3+KZKBfaaLO+cKpSA9lunKFfjebYbWGy0nNMYgGyoXSi5JcqQmjBkA0bgim BO7b72Pwo3PquNV7zGNXuS9RAyB8mSSUvZl8JsQzDV+v4b60UKY9Lqv5rhj9gXR1 wv67SXfwa907lJ4qsMKpGeLon8xyhVec/mqRLRl6Vu4p9jLfl1CXVsm3zZjyHx68 RrmDsTx/zjfoHu4F+icXvEO4t/amIkGs1cwiZYNPL9eJsLzAife6GOFZIZET96Yz CQiAXemfWDsbZ7ixFUK66MUSZF6jrQ76qPBIsL2DnmB7LBVQTLAJCuW5B4g84UH0 Uh8aeoILxfritiV8xnUIRC+JQg4wKt++bRDOd8RuZyPhLmyynXWceBnAq2qNaAgH FDWhv2/buja4jQdtvQqNW4Iqjr3Kz0zT2Ss4BfwVAjh3P4BJHXqMMB026k9SGllE qmbyiMd5MIwkGAlhk3xA =4QMI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jHQsJaG3unM6289O2ce5NBIK0fnoVHF29-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 11:44:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001BACB2FD for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S20.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s20.hotmail.com [65.55.111.159]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C345584A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP204 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S20.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:44:25 -0800 X-TMN: [03x4WTwpVuASLzQSh3TMUtj4atQvXjNt] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 06:44:22 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH and FreeBSD-11 In-Reply-To: <56E2AC3F.2050907@freebsd.org> References: <56E2AC3F.2050907@freebsd.org> Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2016 11:44:24.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C0AD760:01D17B8B] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:44:27 -0000 On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:30:07 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: > DSA keys will have been deprecated because they only allow a 1024bit > modulus, and that's now known to be vulnerable to attack. It takes > quite a well resourced attacker to do so right now, but Moore's law > will soon make that club a lot less exclusive. I can appreciate that; however, if they are not going to be created in the first place, why is an error message being displayed that they cannot be loaded. That makes no sense, IMHO. -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 12:48:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E6FACC731 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A20962F2 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id n186so17239183wmn.1 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 04:48:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=ziSM7gfH1FTp/cur/9AhapLpWSAMRUd7gjt1DIS8P58=; b=FrEcujeQfygerM1+9QYhmtz2dwzHjW9sqUtQwaLarLLy6rgedQlr/HBdL+308ubht8 ryjNdYd6BOwAv4PyTb1b64uoVmV8B7Gxcdo9PNP1JVgOk/C/Q5WqtjPWCfGQvzn8yCHN A6ZEU8hUOKVsXR3XhUCDx9WTixy/nEsSkFaV6bSg85buiNnJvUikSbfUYhlfAv+DL8op KR3ZtEfwFk0I7a/fS2ml8hX0bpxZT2g9McQUtznJ58svqnj0MaXxeCVah4dhjdVhFJuz lZ8ZBR6d9inXPUEoivEebkygZgF8hGt7weVlJEFtjOe/o8graBDSdXDrv9jSoLV8qmVe rLFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=ziSM7gfH1FTp/cur/9AhapLpWSAMRUd7gjt1DIS8P58=; b=RJpAbP8TGmVXoMujg969bEwuCnFQVuFmYfDMjZvWCGiKkq1DepwDe7lWIRQc0icbse cthrqtJJk2Q0F0jrFGIQs4W/DI+NKY6m3QCUBOic7nzhyYQftC5gNa7nRZDKUvc0wfqX 1CxwZ/a8Puu0axfqO4BrvUEGnwGyaPezDP4vhSfS11ey9YhcDNe/d0RWUxT/hvP6QpKL KL2D6Ly0NfOHryx0BHX+q57Yxe2kNXJLQAQsbuBJSMKpusZ79cn2yispgF+UnKE30TME YD3e4epeHA45vtYfIrnK1CT7iAMRB7A81grOUOCM3k7IKIhyE1vjwYAeOPtVxZdItMJE DadA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIo/DdhHVWFLZZHBvbREul7OMNpHxkWsEN0i44Fae1i6pEPI/PJuowSKDtPsJnyAcUFmbzgAlXNBCIUnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.132.212 with SMTP id g203mr2751643wmd.30.1457700520119; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 04:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.31.143 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 04:48:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <56E2AC3F.2050907@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:48:40 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SSH and FreeBSD-11 From: krad To: Carmel Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:48:42 -0000 just comment them out of the sshd_config. Did you upgrade from 10 or fresh install? If you upgraded did you run mergemaster? On 11 March 2016 at 11:44, Carmel wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:30:07 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: > > > DSA keys will have been deprecated because they only allow a 1024bit > > modulus, and that's now known to be vulnerable to attack. It takes > > quite a well resourced attacker to do so right now, but Moore's law > > will soon make that club a lot less exclusive. > > I can appreciate that; however, if they are not going to be created in > the first place, why is an error message being displayed that they > cannot be loaded. That makes no sense, IMHO. > > -- > Carmel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 12:56:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98D9ACCA0F for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S25.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s25.hotmail.com [65.55.111.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 879388F9 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP38 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S25.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 04:55:13 -0800 X-TMN: [3yw4EMGwI4JV6d0uHNpfu7cl0knBFoVM] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:55:10 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH and FreeBSD-11 In-Reply-To: References: <56E2AC3F.2050907@freebsd.org> Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2016 12:55:12.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[402B2D10:01D17B95] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:20 -0000 On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:48:40 +0000, krad stated: > just comment them out of the sshd_config. Did you upgrade from 10 or > fresh install? If you upgraded did you run mergemaster? Clean install. -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 13:35:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C9BACBCB5 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from archeo.suszko.eu (archeo.unixguru.pl [IPv6:2001:41d0:2:8316::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFAC690D for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from archeo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A207BAD4; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:35:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at archeo.local Received: from archeo.suszko.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by archeo (archeo.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xxs8ft0Ig7N8; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:35:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from helium (gate.grtech.pl [195.8.99.234]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ECBE9BACD; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:35:02 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=suszko.eu; s=dkim; t=1457703303; bh=lvn+nxAMAduO6j90fhku+Q81xntKEuyjJmcHEFc2zcc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=nfjEx/vMePq+VM9JJ/33Z1yjXx52yR67s7erd8qgGAxzqgxF2IbxmqYidURBtDxIy vxYBYOZVzwg9Od5rKv0q+TuTHh1293FjbM44gLp1VTaPiLJF/R6IKeIUGePLQrmpjm zv9z1DKktBt0SdpgYfExUXgrgFiyzgtsyy0T/d70= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:34:56 +0100 From: Maciej Suszko To: Steve Burton Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cshell closing on CTRL-c Message-ID: <20160311143456.3b780fcf@helium> In-Reply-To: <56E19D06.9080608@sliderule.demon.co.uk> References: <20160309131906.eca65270.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160310080055.49f0702a.freebsd@edvax.de> <56E19D06.9080608@sliderule.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/KH2q6Emx9z21Uw3S7jW4x1m"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:35:14 -0000 --Sig_/KH2q6Emx9z21Uw3S7jW4x1m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:12:54 +0000 Steve Burton wrote: > I've just tried this and CTRL-C closes my C Shell sessions too. >=20 > # uname -a >=20 > FreeBSD proliant.webdev.my.domain 10.2-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD=20 > 10.2-RELEASE-p9 #0: Thu Jan 14 06:57:14 UTC 2016 =20 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 My machine is also affected. I just noticed there's no problem when you just log on to the server (via ssh) and press ^C as the first command... as long as you press it, shell drops you to the new line, but pressing it once again after something else - it logs you out: #v+ msuszko@helium:~ $ sshbackup-04 Last login: Fri Mar 11 14:11:10 2016 from x.x.x.x msuszko@backup-04:~ $=20 msuszko@backup-04:~ $=20 msuszko@backup-04:~ $=20 msuszko@backup-04:~ $ c c: Command not found. msuszko@backup-04:~ $ Connection to backup-04 closed. #v- On the other terminal I've connected to the that csh process with truss: #v+ msuszko@backup-04:~/nobackup $ truss -o truss2.log -f -p 63329 truss: Unexpected stop in waitpid: No child processes #v- Here http://pastebin.com/z95d5YZK you can find the truss output, hope it will help somehow. The machine is running GENERIC kernel on amd64 10.2-RELEASE-p12 r296024. --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/KH2q6Emx9z21Uw3S7jW4x1m Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlbiyYAACgkQCikUk0l7iGrmvwCfe0fUI1x8fkqnWazIALVTVdgf AjwAn2yXOGrMKeIal2QDA1GBlyjNTQp8 =o0Xb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/KH2q6Emx9z21Uw3S7jW4x1m-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 15:18:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CD2ACB7B5 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pierre-yves.peneau@lirmm.fr) Received: from kirkenes.lirmm.fr (kirkenes.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D66BC4 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pierre-yves.peneau@lirmm.fr) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (tronhinavi.com [158.69.172.225]) by kirkenes.lirmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D512A4FB7 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:12:51 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=c3=a9neau?= Subject: CURRENT does not compile on i386 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:12:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XjPHKlea6BRlHOIQPMTV9iku6bc4veou8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:18:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XjPHKlea6BRlHOIQPMTV9iku6bc4veou8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="mLg3fOHnkqjc8gOLjQA5bBK86HV3vHSAM" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=c3=a9neau?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> Subject: CURRENT does not compile on i386 --mLg3fOHnkqjc8gOLjQA5bBK86HV3vHSAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I am trying to compile FreeBSD-CURRENT downloaded from https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head. The source tree is at revision 296654. The command to build is the following: > make buildkernel KERNEL=3DGENERIC -j 2 The compilation failed with this message: > =3D=3D=3D> bxe (all) > --- bxe.o --- > cc -O2 -pipe -Wno-shift-negative-value -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_= KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/dev/bxe -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION= _HEADERS -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/opt_global.h -I. -I/usr/sr= c/sys -fno-common -g -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC -mno-mmx -mno-sse -ms= oft-float -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-protector -gdwarf-2 -Wall -Wredu= ndant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wp= ointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-exte= nsions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-prag= mas -Wno-error-tautological-compare -Wno-error-empty-body -Wno-error-pare= ntheses-equality -Wno-error-unused-function -Wno-error-pointer-sign -mno-= aes -mno-avx -std=3Diso9899:1999 -c /usr/src/sys/dev/bxe/bxe.c -o bxe.o > error: unknown warning option '-Wno-shift-negative-value'; did you mean= '-Wno-shift-sign-overflow'? [-Werror,-Wunknown-warning-option] > *** [bxe.o] Error code 1 >=20 > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/bxe > 1 error I am running FreeBSD-10.2 on i386 (fresh install from yesterday): > root@beastie:/usr/src # uname -a > FreeBSD beastie 10.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE #1 r296608M: Thu Mar = 10 14:42:55 CET 2016 pierre-yves@beastie:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i38= 6 I am using the default compiler: > root@beastie:/usr/src # clang -v > FreeBSD clang version 3.4.1 (tags/RELEASE_34/dot1-final 208032) 2014051= 2 > Target: i386-unknown-freebsd10.2 > Thread model: posix > Selected GCC installation: Am I doing something wrong ? I read the official documentation and it looks like I am using the good way to compile the FreeBSD kernel. Thank you. --=20 +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre-Yves P=C3=A9neau - PhD student | first.last at lirmm.fr | | LIRMM / CNRS - SYSMIC team | + 33 4 67 41 85 85 | | Building 4 Office H2.2 | http://walafc0.org | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ --mLg3fOHnkqjc8gOLjQA5bBK86HV3vHSAM-- --XjPHKlea6BRlHOIQPMTV9iku6bc4veou8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW4uBwAAoJEPy7VC2L9m/AusUP/2J0gAm4KoHUUNJPebkv4oc6 vdmlMlM4W+W3e2iau+82oK+X76qy788T6w2DAAHVBWbYF0AwlCMjhnbIRtQHB1I+ Xr69jm/rtWsg6gFdyhDZrM0/4MJT2jsKdDmnUa2V40B2W8Zdo9qSxKhCeypQSVx2 QNb8u8YXJHul+Rg6y7gvlCVuPQXTGYAMyoizdadaanSR4mbnuE+HG3e+ZF4ZR9+0 NbDE5iDFOJU+xOPTRBDBjGcizSHggoIOYntIzag2BKZJW4uRR1oSe93wwF1b01pi 9IuetkcjFxTLaOO7po3EgHzBxj9DM6UMKN+reKWTUXwlY921zcuSBtzdJOO7p4ZO mnU9jC/JriO/8qzIdVf1i4C5qTtwAGhjZBgXXGOJThx1+Dp4aiGLe1ZdXrrMvH6b I6kFLPspdeWVOiooecpZqgy3IMIKUck06GBvGQGqGpJLPTjMJnUyQDQxk40Ms/CB WHS1RVJWjZtVx8RDT/wqUIoIrKeN8VfDteXspYbkHmv8gNoRRZ3SRPS9db6uyWLS KDu+nJdfxCY8ie7gtaTfk1EfVL0OC4qcxXUbDcdSFf3ai/5Tp38zek4GVutkTO40 Uc37Zejt/4sGbXINz7u18vqFzHB7g2UnVUi45+fN7hvbkFw/5EOG/dyIs1CrgnU1 uSY9DQVd9CvksFN8agxg =kWXO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XjPHKlea6BRlHOIQPMTV9iku6bc4veou8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 15:48:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AA7ACC61C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pierre-yves.peneau@lirmm.fr) Received: from kirkenes.lirmm.fr (kirkenes.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9DD359 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pierre-yves.peneau@lirmm.fr) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (unknown [185.100.85.132]) by kirkenes.lirmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21569A4FC1 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:48:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: CURRENT does not compile on i386 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=c3=a9neau?= Message-ID: <56E2E8D3.4090203@lirmm.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:48:35 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C3EmWnTjWaFFjgBf9vx9wOMUbREHVxX2u" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:48:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --C3EmWnTjWaFFjgBf9vx9wOMUbREHVxX2u Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ow5A0sL6ip8LQMjexHBqx5w5iKWtgtiJ5" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=c3=a9neau?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56E2E8D3.4090203@lirmm.fr> Subject: Re: CURRENT does not compile on i386 References: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> In-Reply-To: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> --ow5A0sL6ip8LQMjexHBqx5w5iKWtgtiJ5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, according to Jenkins, i386 does not compile since this morning (5:14am), but the error message is not the same. https://jenkins.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD_HEAD_i386/ On 11/03/2016 16:12, Pierre-Yves P=C3=A9neau wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > I am trying to compile FreeBSD-CURRENT downloaded from > https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head. The source tree is at revision > 296654. The command to build is the following: >=20 >> make buildkernel KERNEL=3DGENERIC -j 2 >=20 > The compilation failed with this message: >=20 >> =3D=3D=3D> bxe (all) >> --- bxe.o --- >> cc -O2 -pipe -Wno-shift-negative-value -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D= _KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/dev/bxe -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTIO= N_HEADERS -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/opt_global.h -I. -I/usr/s= rc/sys -fno-common -g -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC -mno-mmx -mno-sse -m= soft-float -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-protector -gdwarf-2 -Wall -Wred= undant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -W= pointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-ext= ensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pra= gmas -Wno-error-tautological-compare -Wno-error-empty-body -Wno-error-par= entheses-equality -Wno-error-unused-function -Wno-error-pointer-sign -mno= -aes -mno-avx -std=3Diso9899:1999 -c /usr/src/sys/dev/bxe/bxe.c -o bxe.o >> error: unknown warning option '-Wno-shift-negative-value'; did you mea= n '-Wno-shift-sign-overflow'? [-Werror,-Wunknown-warning-option] >> *** [bxe.o] Error code 1 >> >> make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/bxe >> 1 error >=20 > I am running FreeBSD-10.2 on i386 (fresh install from yesterday): >=20 >> root@beastie:/usr/src # uname -a >> FreeBSD beastie 10.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE #1 r296608M: Thu Mar= 10 14:42:55 CET 2016 pierre-yves@beastie:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i3= 86 >=20 > I am using the default compiler: >=20 >> root@beastie:/usr/src # clang -v >> FreeBSD clang version 3.4.1 (tags/RELEASE_34/dot1-final 208032) 201405= 12 >> Target: i386-unknown-freebsd10.2 >> Thread model: posix >> Selected GCC installation: >=20 > Am I doing something wrong ? I read the official documentation and it > looks like I am using the good way to compile the FreeBSD kernel. >=20 > Thank you. >=20 --=20 +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre-Yves P=C3=A9neau - PhD student | first.last at lirmm.fr | | LIRMM / CNRS - SYSMIC team | + 33 4 67 41 85 85 | | Building 4 Office H2.2 | http://walafc0.org | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ --ow5A0sL6ip8LQMjexHBqx5w5iKWtgtiJ5-- --C3EmWnTjWaFFjgBf9vx9wOMUbREHVxX2u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW4ujWAAoJEPy7VC2L9m/Aia0QAKixgVFmqHM5/rUyE5JHfeOU cMwGST3ew+JaOpTHi3QSNHNy+Yo8z7GMLP4JyJMFO9fyHHrSV8DwH4e1UjC5NCdU HwyqTB5aX0vGKwCrvuP1TGA2q99hThDub2x+El5AGOODIpl23m6EnpyjsenR+2Vd uhHwCAviQ/ItLHuE2a5xXKQSgPxECLgmy+UB/0Bhiqqfnh5tHLT+UgKiLwrb4NgA q0sm8DIKQJMuaGuV1LENF4BbwU4y2RYtNNsWeNyWKqGLuXfPIr8NVegtHviWXiQ/ 4fYVZ7ERjvJ4MS0t1IlEXZ8WlTOs4V4umzndnB/mi8hIIw6NLQ8F66NaJwOEKC4V igqYjd6i2j+14CIKntwqtX+A5wvWWRoB35RkR0CS1qOp02EohzPcvmmvOtGFBKOF Xly2xgE25ImfYlm5zyf0jXST6/e+pzaghqswnIUjKDxqb/ZwTlCOIGVzx1+fz4Aa O7GQgTTkPGKkduKj879MCA1nvWLBbtSMMpLjmkChhkLuxHN6c/ksRnN2c4+yGnx4 9jtpCASJyDnLADPdD1NTKy/ngkkomfuIvLFxGzSD3F4dsbDnoCfdtXQ4K/GzRr8Y b+EIyyickAj2GfCTTHLBLYpa5Lsx5O9Q/9QZKgs0oIJbFIcUzdItV/uGNlDsTQD8 LrVl9CI8NrG9bqu/sQRy =Xr3F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C3EmWnTjWaFFjgBf9vx9wOMUbREHVxX2u-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 15:52:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C15DACCA7D for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1BB4937 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from [192.168.0.143] ([95.91.226.72]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LgvEY-1a1DBb0iT0-00oDjd; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:52:13 +0100 Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes Intermittently !! To: shahzaib shahzaib , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" Message-ID: <56E2E9AC.1040902@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:52:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:R5C/2VMIdrRbw13IKnkufWTvMgZNjIzvnV4tQP+BpUNx2H/pH7D lBEqGqmP3BjTHRpAzhRgMXKPpiniOFj2zNv9hKmjWPvqLQ7rZaO0pDDI9tsRNJrYYABzpuM SrBkf7QAkDQLK1V8WGjFApyewrOgVdv8+G5fFk43TV220hUqV6KxHhzr+OzEYf84kQGsDyb FXwIgSBkRTS2TJXhLxvOQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:AKSxwM0rQTg=:ogmZ9zlbPrMAsNCWj61kH+ XPJF0Fa2rJPFCAvSZkUqATFtEahmhWnmW+KNeFrJhJ+CbJQR/RZSV1X+xzEFBkfHXsgxWc1gU smC9MDQTtGT9VYuvsyOhyrbeslCPWuwDp/sPClFEYjV4gcb3NKD3dSpzUhLjBE8QKByZoGGam 3wSRLxoGn3QamYEOyPHx7+Wim8RJ9gqUeeNvX6Cy45Mk0426u6YfenZGqyRGqUeMH/FFKpzs/ XaXK9zswHXwT0enutVJ/lQ5N70EX3MUeI4oHOxwbRCypDR6PaTj7GEqcfW4xNsmlqRNxPgkO6 qdATc7bJBLw3+yaaC5TtDfWDnQPu6WbCeh56Q2+YtMriCjQDKfBhA+N4usD8fxFZ6z2YwviWk 33i0TIkAZELeki/u6ZSKvqTW0OSd5a9GVPMj9YwM5QK4mxgMzZaU/2Sc1QMJJVwzh52cX0zGG g4xbvUwTXmVXJkJu7eaHMhegAFxiSEIQip7QuWB14vnWcNRAms2T0zHZjRHW3QJaZILjiLzNQ CTgOf+S7RSBPd7M21YdugQNi34wW0XrKcwZSi/bBekrsOnAqFvZBUiIBZaNj033D1X7A1btQw 9Os0Lwpw19+/zPUGygYA3ohboUfCypXgafHpvE0pZepci0nqhIcVktqQtmEtIQBStk6TzOqe8 OnheouWCGOseJ198YnSaXoqhdaKx3vHKq6UhmR9usBNNBTRlMIJccQ3Wb3w22bTLsUmwhmIDu PMIzdLBu1C3s1de+THXpHZPvH+K6FEooh4xz5T49b4FzmCnGgwD3kQhBxEhrmpWVwNF/cynbU joIMfzf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:52:16 -0000 On 03/09/16 13:24, shahzaib shahzaib wrote: > Hi, > > Supermicro X5690 (12 cores, 24 threads - 2u) > 96GB RAM > 12x3TB mirror+stripping (HBA-LSI9211) > X8DT3 Board > > We've total of 5 supermicro servers built upon same hardware and all of > them intermittently goes down and sometimes they crash and boot up > automatically (within 6min) and sometimes they gets freeze and we've to > manually boot them via IPMI interface. All the time we get 'MCA Internal > Timer Error' in crash logs. Here is the recent one : > > http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c Have you look for bios update? http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DT3.cfm Version R 2.1 is the last one. dmesg and other logfiles show no errors? When all thinks working on Dell, then ok. Greetings. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 16:07:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829B2ACA0CB for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CE009C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 512FB2766F; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:07:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2BG7WEk002288; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:07:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:07:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pierre-Yves =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9neau?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT does not compile on i386 Message-Id: <20160311170731.a00a652c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> References: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:07:41 -0000 Just a sidenote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:12:45 +0100, Pierre-Yves P=E9neau wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > I am trying to compile FreeBSD-CURRENT downloaded from > https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head. The source tree is at revision > 296654. The command to build is the following: >=20 > > make buildkernel KERNEL=3DGENERIC -j 2 The setting's name is KERNCONF, not KERNEL, and GENERIC is its default value. See Makefile's comment header for details. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 16:15:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C41ACA4C8 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DFE6E9 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 2BB10CB8CDB; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:15:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:15:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <33444.128.135.52.6.1457712900.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <56E2E9AC.1040902@gmx.de> References: <56E2E9AC.1040902@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:15:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes Intermittently !! From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "lokadamus@gmx.de" Cc: "shahzaib shahzaib" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:15:06 -0000 On Fri, March 11, 2016 9:52 am, lokadamus@gmx.de wrote: > On 03/09/16 13:24, shahzaib shahzaib wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Supermicro X5690 (12 cores, 24 threads - 2u) >> 96GB RAM >> 12x3TB mirror+stripping (HBA-LSI9211) >> X8DT3 Board >> >> We've total of 5 supermicro servers built upon same hardware and all of >> them intermittently goes down and sometimes they crash and boot up >> automatically (within 6min) and sometimes they gets freeze and we've to >> manually boot them via IPMI interface. All the time we get 'MCA Internal >> Timer Error' in crash logs. Here is the recent one : >> >> http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c > Have you look for bios update? > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DT3.cfm > Version R 2.1 is the last one. In my humble opinion, the _need_ to install BIOS update is extremely bad flag on hardware manufacturer reputation. For ages I used Tyan system boards ("motherboard" jargon became the name for system board decades ago...) and never I had a problem to solve which it was necessary to install BIOS update. The requirement to install BIOS update is an indication that whichever BIOS version needs to be replaced should never have been released in the first place - not before is was debugged appropriately. Tyan is in small server board business forever. A bit younger Supermicro... well, I have a feeling that they indeed have flops with some "releases" of their BIOSes. Alas, Supermicro effectively displaced Tyan from US small server market. I had problems with some Supermicro boards, most notably boards for AMD Opterons (which "die of age" sometimes at rather young age: 4 -5 years or so, which I attributed to not too good PCB and/or electronics design of the board...). The only reasons for the need of newer BIOS I feel are justified are: enabling new features of some motherboard components and security patch, the last should be really rare in such small and simple programs as BIOSes. Sorry about rant (probably should have added tags...) Valeri > > dmesg and other logfiles show no errors? > When all thinks working on Dell, then ok. > > Greetings. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 16:25:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05947ACA96C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pierre-yves.peneau@lirmm.fr) Received: from kirkenes.lirmm.fr (kirkenes.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36E4EF4 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pierre-yves.peneau@lirmm.fr) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (4.tor.exit.babylon.network [178.17.174.99]) by kirkenes.lirmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5594CA4FBE for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:25:49 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: CURRENT does not compile on i386 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> <20160311170731.a00a652c.freebsd@edvax.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=c3=a9neau?= Message-ID: <56E2F181.1070600@lirmm.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:25:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160311170731.a00a652c.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h41kIIiwXRx1rHEsXKGXgh3PUWdLTmP02" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:25:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --h41kIIiwXRx1rHEsXKGXgh3PUWdLTmP02 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="untd8fPvxhTREV59M9lVoRsMqVq3shexb" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=c3=a9neau?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56E2F181.1070600@lirmm.fr> Subject: Re: CURRENT does not compile on i386 References: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> <20160311170731.a00a652c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160311170731.a00a652c.freebsd@edvax.de> --untd8fPvxhTREV59M9lVoRsMqVq3shexb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oups ! Thank you for correcting me. I have fixed the command but there is the same error. Yes I know that GENERIC is the default value, this compilation is just a test for my machine. This is an "old" computer and I would like to know how much time is needed to compile the FreeBSD kernel. On 11/03/2016 17:07, Polytropon wrote: > Just a sidenote: >=20 > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:12:45 +0100, Pierre-Yves P=E9neau wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am trying to compile FreeBSD-CURRENT downloaded from >> https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head. The source tree is at revision >> 296654. The command to build is the following: >> >>> make buildkernel KERNEL=3DGENERIC -j 2 >=20 > The setting's name is KERNCONF, not KERNEL, and GENERIC is > its default value. 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To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu References: <56E2E9AC.1040902@gmx.de> <33444.128.135.52.6.1457712900.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Cc: shahzaib shahzaib , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" Message-ID: <56E2F586.9000108@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:42:46 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33444.128.135.52.6.1457712900.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ckSNfCzAeIek8JZtixpQi8D0RnzPmcXFr2r/JeRg0VjLm4ACd1+ +icnzpC5SIJWWihQnolTGa5pfZQLKTr3Fj4YncaspECsM3MgU0pH54UEEqjsr/0yXEvHTwg 02ASXTCUz78YGQUeBlzNrUSnGHNeLbSBhzZFhaY5hrI+pQ1su7xAj5RPzU4U0lUcdfwCAMI 0M6iA9IKotq9ZWqPmnhLA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:06HUYXX61g4=:3VOBEZXJfExUpHgqLszkev KBt6vadBKuE2RgDuSW4DVTFBtDVidbgDGucWk2oWsFNnVhg+os/49qv3fYrh6RCRW8ed4/KU1 uMNq7RJI6+N8ATrm/jPxeBpHVJCGDu27kwh/oce32Qhus0kYH7U3eVVQ8ILbRcRvk0qfTtQGN Q2JiFLGTPZOeebxwiR3sl/AoHRZYBy6hxUtOHlqnizWSdTCydXwUnbDu1IK2amV+gabRUPGq2 f+5dyJVmECdRfSHMqxzWWUgZGj2Mo+pwwFfN+Emr4JkEFGXndwz/DHs+H2WH5gRuxvBLU5bd2 xdzHZn7K9cVQiR+aQpJewtOr4pRmttxqSbgLKWjf2Aqz9XzA07MaqklKmZr6OCZ7DdTBX8s+h jb1rQjckY6nKy2UpttDmmNgvWbuOUdkIXW7MIxExVMo/HYAMnfkKWCrLciTx+X8V3o658NDAA HMLCAinPIiATozbyYMztd9knne9EtVIusPMOHsfghJTG6AaY8i+NmhEbl2bVistqBr+oUjLXe 9jfLblCnX47cMOrKLCdp4RTSBcSvB1ye69vCk+Wbbu9PHkwFTxbVu75QWwsGCYuqlccU91q5b JRkAxRnq89kjsSHJNWdhh3XXkwaSheB7pcbBTpLgC4IYuwi8lUUVM0Ns3AUfCVjw0WODlh824 BZC+JFevkXldVgzOw+q3j61cJ/TjN78OL7uJL9Xk75TJXR9ZwKsTAxhvboTkKUlkbHVC8AZYQ XKX9RUQZrgE/SaF5OlNVvfHoWIRSBnyibBNr9RJ62kDm8pMxo2gMr6wRgB7pUsd2q8JWHDufX LK8GSgC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:43:01 -0000 On 03/11/16 17:15, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c >> Have you look for bios update? >> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DT3.cfm >> Version R 2.1 is the last one. > > In my humble opinion, the _need_ to install BIOS update is extremely bad > flag on hardware manufacturer reputation. For ages I used Tyan system > boards ("motherboard" jargon became the name for system board decades > ago...) Ok, never use DELL. You will never be happy with it. I work some month for a big company and most server problems can only be solved with a bios update. And never look for microcode updates, that will fix things and problems. Greetings From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 17:36:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB69CACBD1C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35616EE2 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u2BHZqIr015792; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:35:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:35:52 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Carmel cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160312040723.V61428@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:36:03 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 614, Issue 6, Message: 2 On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:08:15 -0500 Carmel wrote: > I recently installed FreeBSD 11-0 current on a new machine. Now, when I > attempt to run "freebsd-update fetch", I receive the following error > message. > > src component not installed, skipped > Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org ... failed > (above repeated several times with different URLs) > No mirrors remaining, giving up. > > What am I doing wrong? With respect, and despite the willingness of people here to help with issues, you've either installed an inappropriate version of FreeBSD or are not using the appropriate list for issues with it. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/current-stable.html You may find that running stable/10 - so following the freebsd-stable list - much less of a big leap onto the 'bleeding edge' and sometimes unstable development version that -current is intended to be. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 19:06:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB474ACD0EE for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0F4A288 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aeSOf-0006ZX-H4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:06:49 +0100 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:06:49 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:06:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes Intermittently !! Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:04:44 -0500 Lines: 127 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:06:59 -0000 shahzaib shahzaib wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to this mailing list so please pardon me for any mistakes. We've > started using FreeBSD from past 4-5 months and facing auto-reboot crash > issue since the beginning. Following are the servers specs : > > Supermicro X5690 (12 cores, 24 threads - 2u) > 96GB RAM > 12x3TB mirror+stripping (HBA-LSI9211) > X8DT3 Board > > We've total of 5 supermicro servers built upon same hardware and all of > them intermittently goes down and sometimes they crash and boot up > automatically (within 6min) and sometimes they gets freeze and we've to > manually boot them via IPMI interface. All the time we get 'MCA Internal > Timer Error' in crash logs. Here is the recent one : > > http://pastebin.com/042SJ11c > > Once we reported this issue to our hardware vendor he said that its due to > FreeBSD incompatibility with hardware and suggested us to try installing > Linux on one of them and so did we proceeded with Debian on one of them > them but all in vain and server was still crashing. Once we reported him > about his failed proposal he then said that it could be related to > application which is causing this crash. He is just trying his best to point the finger somewhere else, anywhere else, with the bottom line he doesn't want to let you return the machines and refund your money. If the hardware has the same problems with different operating systems something is wrong in the hardware. > Now if he really is right then RAM should first swapped out to its full in > order to make OS crash but never did that happened, we've never been out > of Memory as 96GB RAM is pretty high. We've also took some precaution to > debug this issue : [snip] This "let's blame it on an application" will never produce positive results if the problem is truly hardware related. One long-standing and well known situation is poorly engineered hardware usually gets "fixed" in the WIntel world by patching work around(s) into driver code. This just hides the problem from the user. So in a situation like this you will find the machine magically doesn't crash when running Windows on it, but since these magic-bullet "fixes" do not map directly into the Unix world it takes a lot more developer effort to achieve a similar repair. When you see this effect, most of this is in (but not necessarily limited to) driver code. > > Now i am confused if application really can crash server without swapping > it out ? Could there be any php function which could make a crash :-| . Is > FreeBSD is the cause of crash ? Things are pretty blurred right now :(. If it also crashes with Debian why would you want to blame FreeBSD? > Here is the Kernel tuning values : > > http://pastebin.com/nEnxkV6y > [snip] My own personal recommendation is to simplify things down. I usually start by choosing the "default" BIOS cmos settings. Usually there are two; one is a bare bones default and the other is usually an "optimized defaults". I usually always start with the "optimized" choice as it is still very generic. I would remove all customizations and reduce to pristine OS install with no tunings. Even to the point of running the box with the LSI controller disabled and run it on just a SATA drive or two. This gets the driver for the LSI controller out of the way. But let me back up the train first. First thing I'd do after setting BIOS to defaults is to disable the HPET timer. Second thing I'd do is disable the NUMA aware OS setting. Third thing I'd do is take the ipmi load out from loader.conf. Also disable the entire USB subsystem at some point in the experimentation to rule out fbsd's USB subsystem, etc. Basically remove and strip things down until the problem goes away. Then you have a smaller pool of possible subsystems causing the problem. The HPET timer is best used in a Windows environment for synchronizing multimedia. If you disable it in BIOS only to find that FreeBSD tries to utilize it anyway it can be disabled in loader.conf with: kern.timecounter.hardware=TSC I mean, in the *Nix world do you really want micro millisecond time stamps on all logging, just spinning CPU cycles and wasting performance? I suspect *Nix systems run better without the HPET timer. My opinion (don't have benchmarkings to prove). In my experience software bugs usually present with a narrowing down to a very specific sequence of steps that can reliably reproduce a problem. Hardware problems, on the other hand, can show little or no pattern whatsoever (totally erratic). And the intermittent hardware failure is the absolute worst because you can only really troubleshoot during the period the intermittent is showing. If you get and intermittent that is essentially instantaneous, it happens and is gone. Very frustrating as this usually reboots the box with little or no info left behind to go on. However, I'd like to also point out that 5 machines all doing the same thing is not likely to be an intermittent. IMHO this correlates to a hardware compatibility situation. My first thoughts there are almost always the memory subsystem. If the RAM has not had a proper engineering validation I'd look at the list from SuperMicro and try and obtain something that has been validated. Should this magically make the problem disappear, then the vendor you bought the hardware from is putting RAM into boxen that does NOT have a guarantee that it will work. I've seen machines that would behave fine during normal operation but that would reboot only when running a make buildworld, as this pushes the RAM quite a bit harder than regular day to day stuff. Just a few $0.02 food for thought type things. It's nice to have the time to be able to drill down and discover a solution. It's rewarding. But in the real world as soon as I saw Debian produce the same situation I'd be on the phone to RMA. If I had a little more time I might try Windows to see if it somehow "Just Works". The datapoint here being it would point into the possibility that WIntel is releasing driver patch work around(s) to cover up poor hardware design. But really, I generally don't have this kind of time and in order to meet deadlines sometimes have to go with a Plan B even if I don't like it. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 19:15:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C24CACD3D0 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (mx2.enfer-du-nord.net [IPv6:2001:41d0:d:3049:1:1:0:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C648A90 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from [IPv6:2003:8c:2e02:501:4822:888c:3293:c59b] (p2003008C2E0205014822888C3293C59B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:8c:2e02:501:4822:888c:3293:c59b]) by mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3qMH0t3H2dz9Ts for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:15:42 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Grimm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: reported timestamps during boot process? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:15:41 +0100 To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:15:44 -0000 Hi =E2=80=94 I am encountering unusually high boot times after migration to new = hardware hosted remotely (and thus without physical access to the = console). Is there a way to investigate the boot process by means of reported = timestamps in some logfile? dmesg doesn't seem to be the tool of choice. Any hints are highly welcome and regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 19:16:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA77ACD481 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA397BA8 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aeSXf-0005KK-FG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:16:07 +0100 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:16:02 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:16:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: CURRENT does not compile on i386 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:14:01 -0500 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <56E2E06D.9060003@lirmm.fr> <20160311170731.a00a652c.freebsd@edvax.de> <56E2F181.1070600@lirmm.fr> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:16:10 -0000 Pierre-Yves Péneau wrote: > Oups ! Thank you for correcting me. I have fixed the command but there > is the same error. > > Yes I know that GENERIC is the default value, this compilation is just a > test for my machine. This is an "old" computer and I would like to know > how much time is needed to compile the FreeBSD kernel. > [snip] Please don't top post, it ruins the flow. Make buildworld is what takes the most time. Most middle of the road modern machines take something like around an hour and a half to build world. Kernel build takes around ten to fifteen minutes. On higher end hardware these times can be quite a bit less. On really old enough hardware it can take much, much longer than this. If you are not a kernel-hacking developer might I respectfully suggest beginning with RELEASE and NOT -CURRENT? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 23:47:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F67ACD517 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AE4A25E for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=9lr8lbv2oJGruiaYYnve7+qDq73XlwMmwuXZezi+gW0=; b=GeNm3ejIuHLvgkajs1UU7ZAXJH hGcu0hTF8AYw9Q4WhD1toRQZtw+cbf+bmzID/PS2rJvecoHyzfpkBoAYU3Hc7+i28v2Fn11iTBNQX A858tTzISzbYbUVxaKT73UZjoD+98JMrQ2qTh38HHaf/HP3Th8C84+TLeFiAwtep1VeI=; Received: from [114.121.128.226] (port=12500 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1aeWly-003RqB-Mk; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:47:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:47:05 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Michael Grimm Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: reported timestamps during boot process? Message-ID: <20160312074705.568f20a8@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:47:18 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:15:41 +0100 Michael Grimm wrote: > I am encountering unusually high boot times after migration to new > hardware hosted remotely (and thus without physical access to the > console). > > Is there a way to investigate the boot process by means of reported > timestamps in some logfile? dmesg doesn't seem to be the tool of > choice. > you might find some hints in /var/log/messages. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 12 08:18:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE34ACDF6E for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (mx2.enfer-du-nord.net [IPv6:2001:41d0:d:3049:1:1:0:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB1F57C7 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from [IPv6:2003:8c:2e3b:5c01:f4d0:b54:948b:d34e] (p2003008C2E3B5C01F4D00B54948BD34E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:8c:2e3b:5c01:f4d0:b54:948b:d34e]) by mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3qMcNC5JYFz9YT for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:18:35 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: reported timestamps during boot process? From: Michael Grimm In-Reply-To: <20160312074705.568f20a8@X220.alogt.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:18:35 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <25D3B6C6-6640-4F17-9204-3AF2F4799CE9@ellael.org> References: <20160312074705.568f20a8@X220.alogt.com> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:18:38 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Michael Grimm wrote: >> Is there a way to investigate the boot process by means of reported >> timestamps in some logfile? dmesg doesn't seem to be the tool of >> choice. > you might find some hints in /var/log/messages. Nope. It looks to me [1] that, whilst booting, kernel messages are = written to that file in one batch after syslogd has been fired up. = Timestamps of those messages are all showing the very same second. Linux' dmesg has such a feature [2] I am looking for: | -d, --show-delta | | Display the timestamp and the time delta spent between | messages. If used together with =E2=80=94notimee then = only the time | delta without the timestamp is printed. Regards, Michael [1] is that correct? [2] http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/dmesg.1.html= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 12 14:01:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD79ACD145 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1686863 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u2CE0bxu058319; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 01:00:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 01:00:37 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Michael Grimm cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reported timestamps during boot process? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160313001612.B61428@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:01:49 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 614, Issue 7, Message: 17 On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:18:35 +0100 From: Michael Grimm wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Michael Grimm wrote: > > >> Is there a way to investigate the boot process by means of reported > >> timestamps in some logfile? dmesg doesn't seem to be the tool of > >> choice. > > > you might find some hints in /var/log/messages. > > Nope. It looks to me [1] that, whilst booting, kernel messages are > written to that file in one batch after syslogd has been fired up. > Timestamps of those messages are all showing the very same second. > [1] is that correct? That's correct, everything is buffered in memory before that. 'rcorder /etc/rc.d/*' shows syslogd being started after lots of other services, after FILESYSTEMS are up and, in case of remote logging, NETWORKING. > Linux' dmesg has such a feature [2] I am looking for: > > | -d, --show-delta > | > | Display the timestamp and the time delta spent between > | messages. If used together with ?notimee then only the time > | delta without the timestamp is printed. > [2] http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/dmesg.1.html You could call that feature-rich or bloated, depending on inclination :) I rather doubt that would apply to boot messages anyway. Looking at the boot messages (here kern.log.0) on an admittedly much older Linux 2.6.18 system, all 236 lines have just the same timestamp, just as on FreeBSD, but of course you could test that on some Linux system's boot messages. I don't know whether message storage has any internal microtime stamp you could use for this, but suspect that would take quite some kernel hackery, before userland patches to view them. 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