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Subject: Re: erm shot my foot off with zfs, q on rescue
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On Sunday, 21 August 2016, Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahriar@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 21/08/2016 00:44, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > So I misfired and hosed my 10/stable zfs / mounts by running
> >
> > zfs set mountpoint=/ zroot/zetc
> >
> > so that now I don't seem to actually have any of the uh mandatory
> > system directories visible.  (turns red)
> >
> > No emergency thankfully, I've got three border gateways and just got
> > all three happily configured so if I had to I could just reinstall
> > this poor innocent one that I accidentally shot in the face.
> >
> > But as it happens I pulled it and have it interfaced with a keyboard
> > and monitor and have booted a USB 10.3 stable install image.  I
> > dropped into the shell, and ran zfs list and it comes up with nothing.
> I'm not sure it is supposed to -- your boot disc has no knowledge of
> available pools or the zfs available. The better way of doing it, if I
> understand right as to what you are trying to do, would be to run
>
> zpool import
>
> that will show you available zpools.
>
> Then you can import the pool using
>
> zpool import <poolName>
>
> you can even set different mountpoints etc., the export it, and then fix
> the mountpoints as to where they are supposed to be.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Regards
>

I normally get zpool to temporarily mount the datasets in the /mnt
directory when I have booted from a USB disk image, so that it doesn't
overwrite the root for the currently running system. This doesn't affect
the mountpoint for future boots, and still lets you set the mountpoint
parameter for future boots.

You use:
# zpool import -R /mnt myzpool

More details here:
http://man.freebsd.org/zpool

Regards,
Ben


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On 08/20/16 17:26, Ben Woods wrote:
> On Sunday, 21 August 2016, Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahriar@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/08/2016 00:44, Russell L. Carter wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> So I misfired and hosed my 10/stable zfs / mounts by running
>>>
>>> zfs set mountpoint=/ zroot/zetc
>>>
>>> so that now I don't seem to actually have any of the uh mandatory
>>> system directories visible.  (turns red)
>>>
>>> No emergency thankfully, I've got three border gateways and just got
>>> all three happily configured so if I had to I could just reinstall
>>> this poor innocent one that I accidentally shot in the face.
>>>
>>> But as it happens I pulled it and have it interfaced with a keyboard
>>> and monitor and have booted a USB 10.3 stable install image.  I
>>> dropped into the shell, and ran zfs list and it comes up with nothing.
>> I'm not sure it is supposed to -- your boot disc has no knowledge of
>> available pools or the zfs available. The better way of doing it, if I
>> understand right as to what you are trying to do, would be to run
>>
>> zpool import
>>
>> that will show you available zpools.
>>
>> Then you can import the pool using
>>
>> zpool import <poolName>
>>
>> you can even set different mountpoints etc., the export it, and then fix
>> the mountpoints as to where they are supposed to be.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> Regards
>>
>
> I normally get zpool to temporarily mount the datasets in the /mnt
> directory when I have booted from a USB disk image, so that it doesn't
> overwrite the root for the currently running system. This doesn't affect
> the mountpoint for future boots, and still lets you set the mountpoint
> parameter for future boots.
>
> You use:
> # zpool import -R /mnt myzpool
>
> More details here:
> http://man.freebsd.org/zpool

That worked, and a zfs destroy -f zroot/zetc did the job.

Many thanks,
Russell




> Regards,
> Ben
>
>

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Victor Sudakov writes:

> Kevin P. Neal wrote:
>> > 
>> > Which is the appropriate maillist to ask questions about Root-on-ZFS
>> > systems? Like the ones below:
>> 
>> It's a reasonable place to start. Folks around here will point you in the
>> right direction if the answer requires more expertise.
>
> Folks, please do :-)
>
>> > 2. Sometimes it's necessary to mount a system's root from another >
>> > system (LiveCD, mfsBSD or similar). To do that, you have to import a >
>> > ystem's zroot pool on another system. Is it safe? Is it not going to >
>> > render the *original* system unbootable?
>> 
>> You can use the altroot property to be certain that anything automatically
>> mounted gets mounted underneath the directory specified by that property.
>> Give the zpool import command the "-o altroot=/some/path" option, and make
>> sure that /some/path already exists.
>> 
>> You can also import with the "-N" option to prevent automatic mounting of
>> datasets in the imported pool.
>> 
>> But, really, take a look at the mountpoint property for the root filesystem
>
> Kevin, this is all good advice how not to screw up the second (fixit) system
> into which the zroot of the first (original) one is being temporarily imported.
> However, I am more concerned about not screwing up the first,
> *original* system whose zroot is temporarily mounted to another fixit
> system and then again used as a bootable root pool. 

I'll chime in here, as I think I understand Victor correctly: You have a
production system that presently will not boot, and want to mount it in
the LiveCD/Fixit environment for maintenance. However, you're concerned
about (a) the mount points for the imported pool being stacked atop
those of the running system, leaving it unresponsive; and (b) potential
harm that the imported pool might suffer from the import process. If I'm
mistaken about this, please let me know. ;)

The 'altroot=' property Kevin mentioned takes care of concern (a). The
command `zpool import -R <mountpoint>` mounts the pool at the alternate
mountpoint; so `zpool import -R /mnt` temporarily sets '/mnt' as the
root of the imported pool, as though you had mounted the root partition
of a traditional filesystem there.

Regarding concern (b), importing a pool should never cause any damage to
it, even if it is in a 'degraded' state. (If the pool is in a 'faulted'
state, such that it cannot be used at all, `zpool import` will simply
fail with an error message.) ZFS is designed so that everything that's
already on the disk is all but guaranteed to remain intact and
consistent in the event of an unclean dismount or shutdown, or failure
to boot. Note that this includes the mistake that leads to the scenario
in concern (a): you mount the ZFS pool over the LiveCD/Fixit
environment, leaving both unresponsive. You could just cut the power to
the machine, and the pool should be just fine (there is always the
possiblity that it won't be, but it's quite unlikely).

Now, when you try to import a pool that was previously part of another
running system, `zpool` will tell you that "forcing" the import is the
only way to get the result you want. Doing so is safe; ZFS is just
concerned because its record shows that the pool was last seen attached
to a running system and it wasn't properly exported, and so wants to
make certain you aren't trying to use a pool on two different systems
simultaneously. So to sum up the past two paragraphs, importing the pool
should never have any effect at all beyond mounting the datasets, and
those datasets should always be in a clean state.

As for your question regarding boot environments, I'll limit myself to
the suggestion that if your pool isn't booting, I would guess the most
likely cause (given the use of beadm) is that the 'bootfs=' property is
not properly set. I looked over the bug report you filed and noticed
that you're using the development version beadm. I'd recommend using the
stable release of beadm and seeing if that works. You could also
`chroot` into the system while it's mounted in the LiveCD environment
and use beadm to gather some information.

-- 
::  Brandon J. Wandersee
::  brandon.wandersee@gmail.com
::  --------------------------------------------------
::  'The best design is as little design as possible.'
::  --- Dieter Rams ----------------------------------

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Brandon J. Wandersee wrote:

[dd]

> > Kevin, this is all good advice how not to screw up the second (fixit) system
> > into which the zroot of the first (original) one is being temporarily imported.
> > However, I am more concerned about not screwing up the first,
> > *original* system whose zroot is temporarily mounted to another fixit
> > system and then again used as a bootable root pool. 
> 
> I'll chime in here, as I think I understand Victor correctly: You have a
> production system that presently will not boot, and want to mount it in
> the LiveCD/Fixit environment for maintenance. However, you're concerned
> about (a) the mount points for the imported pool being stacked atop
> those of the running system, leaving it unresponsive; and (b) potential
> harm that the imported pool might suffer from the import process. If I'm
> mistaken about this, please let me know. ;)

Yes, my concern is (b).

[dd]
> 
> Regarding concern (b), importing a pool should never cause any damage to
> it, even if it is in a 'degraded' state. (If the pool is in a 'faulted'
> state, such that it cannot be used at all, `zpool import` will simply
> fail with an error message.) ZFS is designed so that everything that's
> already on the disk is all but guaranteed to remain intact and
> consistent in the event of an unclean dismount or shutdown, or failure
> to boot. Note that this includes the mistake that leads to the scenario
> in concern (a): you mount the ZFS pool over the LiveCD/Fixit
> environment, leaving both unresponsive. You could just cut the power to
> the machine, and the pool should be just fine (there is always the
> possiblity that it won't be, but it's quite unlikely).
> 
> Now, when you try to import a pool that was previously part of another
> running system, `zpool` will tell you that "forcing" the import is the
> only way to get the result you want. Doing so is safe; ZFS is just
> concerned because its record shows that the pool was last seen attached
> to a running system and it wasn't properly exported, and so wants to
> make certain you aren't trying to use a pool on two different systems
> simultaneously. So to sum up the past two paragraphs, importing the pool
> should never have any effect at all beyond mounting the datasets, and
> those datasets should always be in a clean state.

This sounds reassuring. To make it more clear, do I need to export the
production pool after the maintenance is finished?

> 
> As for your question regarding boot environments, I'll limit myself to
> the suggestion that if your pool isn't booting, I would guess the most
> likely cause (given the use of beadm) is that the 'bootfs=' property is
> not properly set. 

Well, it *is* booting, it only looks like /dev is not populated for
some obscure reason.

> I looked over the bug report you filed and noticed
> that you're using the development version beadm. I'd recommend using the
> stable release of beadm and seeing if that works. You could also
> `chroot` into the system while it's mounted in the LiveCD environment
> and use beadm to gather some information.

I'll check with the stable version of beadm  in bhyve tomorrow, but
please note that BE selection made by beadm-devel itself (from a
working system) works perfectly. It's only the loader BE selection
menu that has this problem.


-- 
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I noticed that none of the libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/, is
showing-up in the output of ldconfig -r. 

I had a specific problem where after a build problem  qbittorrent was
failing to start because it couldn't find libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8.
compat/pkg only had libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8.0.0 without a
libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8 symlink. Creating the link solved the
problem. 

I'm not certain, but I think that older versions of portupgrade would
have renamed libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8.0.0 to
libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8. when it was moved to compat/pkg.

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Victor Sudakov writes:

> Brandon J. Wandersee wrote:
>
>> Now, when you try to import a pool that was previously part of another
>> running system, `zpool` will tell you that "forcing" the import is the
>> only way to get the result you want. Doing so is safe; ZFS is just
>> concerned because its record shows that the pool was last seen attached
>> to a running system and it wasn't properly exported, and so wants to
>> make certain you aren't trying to use a pool on two different systems
>> simultaneously. So to sum up the past two paragraphs, importing the pool
>> should never have any effect at all beyond mounting the datasets, and
>> those datasets should always be in a clean state.
>
> This sounds reassuring. To make it more clear, do I need to export the
> production pool after the maintenance is finished?

Yes, you should. I want to say that the LiveCD exports any attached
pools before rebooting or shutting down, because on the couple occasions
I've forgotten to export a root-on-ZFS pool the system still booted up
fine. But I export the pool anyway just to keep everything clean.

> I'll check with the stable version of beadm  in bhyve tomorrow, but
> please note that BE selection made by beadm-devel itself (from a
> working system) works perfectly. It's only the loader BE selection
> menu that has this problem.

I just set up boot environments for the first time with sysutils/beadm
last week myself, so this seemed like as good a time as any to create
one and try it out. I get the same behavior: activating a boot
environment from a running system and rebooting works fine, but
selecting a boot environment from the boot menu fails. So it's probably
a problem with the loader. I'll comment on the bug report myself
shortly.

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Hello,

I tried searching for previous occurrences of the issue but found
nothing so far. It is with the port multimedia/quodlibet. It fails build
but I'm not so much more than an ordinary schuck and it doesn't clearly
indicate what is up(to me anyway). Looks like it is an issue relating to
python and it
looks like I have both python 27 and 34 installed. I've had to resolve
version conflicts before in ports and it has occurred to me there might
be one here and yet the port py27-six-1.10.0 seems to indicate thats not
the case.

So rather than spinning my wheels on this I figured I would post to see
if more experienced eyes can see what I can't.


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On 08/20/16 16:51, Shamim Shahriar wrote:
> On 21/08/2016 00:44, Russell L. Carter wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So I misfired and hosed my 10/stable zfs / mounts by running
>>
>> zfs set mountpoint=/ zroot/zetc
>>
>> so that now I don't seem to actually have any of the uh mandatory
>> system directories visible.  (turns red)
>>
>> No emergency thankfully, I've got three border gateways and just got
>> all three happily configured so if I had to I could just reinstall
>> this poor innocent one that I accidentally shot in the face.
>>
>> But as it happens I pulled it and have it interfaced with a keyboard
>> and monitor and have booted a USB 10.3 stable install image.  I
>> dropped into the shell, and ran zfs list and it comes up with nothing.
> I'm not sure it is supposed to -- your boot disc has no knowledge of
> available pools or the zfs available. The better way of doing it, if I
> understand right as to what you are trying to do, would be to run
>
> zpool import
>
> that will show you available zpools.
>
> Then you can import the pool using
>
> zpool import <poolName>
>
> you can even set different mountpoints etc., the export it, and then fix
> the mountpoints as to where they are supposed to be.

Ok, that's a start.  I ran zpool import, which showed zroot, and then
did zpool import -f zroot, which happily succeeded, and this blew away
all the / mounts, so that the situation for the boot image is the same
for the system disk.  That is, no / mounted directories are visible.
I've rebooted the install image and looked at mounting to an existing
directory but the mfs is read only.  Running

zpool import -o mountpoint=z1 zroot

replies 'property mountpoint is not a valid pool property', which is
true.

Should I give up on this and polish my system installation technique?

Thanks,
Russell

> Hope this helps.
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Russell L. Carter <rcarter@pinyon.org>
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> Running
>
> zpool import -o mountpoint=z1 zroot
>
> replies 'property mountpoint is not a valid pool property', which is
> true.
>

perhaps you were thinking of "altroot=..."?

cheers
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On 21/08/2016 01:12, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> Ok, that's a start.  I ran zpool import, which showed zroot, and then
> did zpool import -f zroot, which happily succeeded, and this blew away
> all the / mounts, so that the situation for the boot image is the same
> for the system disk.  That is, no / mounted directories are visible.
> I've rebooted the install image and looked at mounting to an existing
> directory but the mfs is read only.  Running

When you import a zpool, it will mount all of the ZFSes contained in it
and with the canmount property set to 'yes'.  So you've likely overlaid
the environment you booted from with the contents of the zpool.  That
causes some unfortunate effects -- pretty much the only thing you can do
at that point is reboot and start again.

What you need to do is import the zpool but relative to an alternative
root directory.  That's exactly what the '-R' option is for:

   # mkdir /tmp/zroot
   # zpool import -R /tmp/zroot zroot

Once imported, you will be able to fix the mountpoints in the ZFS
metadata, but remember that ZFS will automatically remount ZFSes as soon
as you change the mountpoint settings.

	Cheers,

	Matthew



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On 8/21/2016 11:39 AM, Robert Woolley wrote:
>=20
> I noticed that none of the libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/, is
> showing-up in the output of ldconfig -r.=20
>=20
> I had a specific problem where after a build problem  qbittorrent was
> failing to start because it couldn't find libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8.
> compat/pkg only had libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8.0.0 without a
> libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8 symlink. Creating the link solved the
> problem.=20
>=20
> I'm not certain, but I think that older versions of portupgrade would
> have renamed libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8.0.0 to
> libtorrent-rasterbar.so.8. when it was moved to compat/pkg.
>=20

It sounds like a problem with the extra version .0 on there.

I've logged https://github.com/freebsd/portupgrade/issues/66 for it.

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Brandon J. Wandersee wrote:
> 
> > I'll check with the stable version of beadm  in bhyve tomorrow, but
> > please note that BE selection made by beadm-devel itself (from a
> > working system) works perfectly. It's only the loader BE selection
> > menu that has this problem.

I have just verified, the boot menu problem is the same no matter if
beadm of beadm-devel were used for BE creation.

> 
> I just set up boot environments for the first time with sysutils/beadm
> last week myself, so this seemed like as good a time as any to create
> one and try it out. I get the same behavior: activating a boot
> environment from a running system and rebooting works fine, but
> selecting a boot environment from the boot menu fails. So it's probably
> a problem with the loader. I'll comment on the bug report myself
> shortly.

Thank you for your comment on the bug report.

What makes me suspicious is the fact that the menu shows
zfs:zroot/ROOT/test1 as the Active BE but the bootfs is still
zfs:zroot/ROOT/default:

                                            s` `.....---.......--.```   -/
 +============Welcome to FreeBSD===========+ +o   .--`         /y:`      +.
 |                                         |  yo`:.            :o      `+-
 |  1. Active: zfs:zroot/ROOT/test1        |   y/               -/`   -o/
 |  2. bootfs: zfs:zroot/ROOT/default      |  .-                  ::/sy+:.
 |  3. [P]age: 1 of 1                      |  /                     `--  /
 |                                         | `:                          :`
 |  Boot Environments:                     | `:                          :`
 |  4. test1                               |  /                          /
 |  5. default                             |  .-                        -.
 |                                         |   --                      -.
 |                                         |    `:`                  `:`
 |                                         |      .--             `--.
 |                                         |         .---.....----.
 +=========================================+

Is it supposed to be so?

-- 
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Good day,

I'm having a behavior with pkg that I don't understand after reading 
maillists, man pages, etc.

I have RT4.4 installed.

I perform pkg update, pkg upgrade, and then get the following:

root@ticket:/ # pkg upgrade
Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...
FreeBSD repository is up-to-date.
All repositories are up-to-date.
Checking for upgrades (8 candidates): 100%
Processing candidates (8 candidates): 100%
The following 6 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):

New packages to be INSTALLED:
     rt42: 4.2.13
     p5-HTML-FormatExternal: 26
     p5-constant-defer: 6
     lynx: 2.8.8.2_4,1
     p5-FCGI-ProcManager: 0.25

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
     p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth: 0.25_2 -> 0.26

Number of packages to be installed: 5
Number of packages to be upgraded: 1

The process will require 29 MiB more space.
6 MiB to be downloaded.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: n
root:/ # pkg upgrade -f p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth
Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...
FreeBSD repository is up-to-date.
All repositories are up-to-date.
The following 6 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):

New packages to be INSTALLED:
     rt42: 4.2.13
     p5-HTML-FormatExternal: 26
     p5-constant-defer: 6
     lynx: 2.8.8.2_4,1
     p5-FCGI-ProcManager: 0.25

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
     p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth: 0.25_2 -> 0.26

Number of packages to be installed: 5
Number of packages to be upgraded: 1

The process will require 29 MiB more space.
6 MiB to be downloaded.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: ^Cpkg:
signal received, cleaning up

root:/ #

I'm confused by this.  First, I thought that I could force the upgrade 
of an individual package which I am trying to do with 
p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth.  However, this seems to want rt42. Shouldn't 
it allow me to update that individual package?  I know a workaround is 
to just build the port and everything will be fine, however, I think 
this is a bug of incorrect behavior in pkg.  If not, could someone 
explain this to me?  Did I miss something in the docs somewhere?

Thank you,

P.


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On 08/22/16 17:05, pathiaki2 via freebsd-questions wrote:
> Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
>     p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth: 0.25_2 -> 0.26

You don't want or need this module with rt-4.4 -- it's been bundled in
with the core RT application so should not also be installed as an
add-on.  Trying to install it will probably drag in rt-4.2.x as a
dependency, which aligns with what you're seeing.

Please delete p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth and then try upgrading again.

	Cheers,

	Matthew



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David Christensen wrote:
> I would advise testing before changing anything.  The strategy is:
> devise a reproducible test that invokes the bug, use the test to isolate
> the bug, fix the bug, re-run test to verify the bug is fixed, re-run the
> test periodically to verify that that bug has not returned.

Sorry so long to post back, yes, I decided this approach was best and 
found full backup of the PostgreSQL database causes crash while backing 
up individual databases (including the largest) does not. Perhaps 
Postgres just provides the environment to trigger the crash and might 
not be the culprit, but it's the only way I can reproduce at the moment. 
I did find the IBM specs for memory of that board and have not compared 
yet to the box, maybe soon. Just slammed with work and this box is 
replicated. While I don't want it down, I can take my time finding the 
real solution if workaround exists. If memory is not right, will change 
and re-run the full backup of postgres.

This box is currently running FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p18.

-- 
Robert


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Hello List.

I have a working setup where I am running IPF on the host and in a vnet 
jail at the same time. The problem is I don't think the vnet IPF rules 
are being enforced. To verify the vnet IPF rules are active and being 
enforced, I have a rule to deny outbound for port 43. Port 43 is used by 
the "whois" command. When I issue the "whois" command from the vnet jail 
console, I get whois results when it should not function. I may have 
overlooked something or my testing concept may be faulty, so I am 
requesting some other eyes to review what I am doing for a reason I am 
getting the results I am getting.

I have run the test using a vimage kernel and a vimage/ipf kernel and 
get the same results.

The vnet jail is using this /etc/devfs.rules rule

[devfsrules_vjail_ipf=60]
add include $devfsrules_jail
add path ipl     unhide
add path ipl0    unhide
add path ipf     unhide
add path ipauth  unhide
add path ipnat   unhide
add path ipstate unhide
# used by ipstate
#add path kmem    unhide
#add path kernel  unhide

and yes the "devfs rule showsets" command does show rule number 60.

Issuing the ipfilter command "ipfstat -hnoi" from the host console shows 
these rules

0 @1 pass out quick on lo0 all
0 @2 pass out log quick on fxp0 all
0 @1 pass in quick on lo0 all
1 @2 pass in log quick on fxp0 all

Issuing the ipfilter command "ipfstat -hnoi" from the started vnet jail
console shows these rules

0 @1 pass out quick on lo0 all
0 @2 block out log quick on epair17b proto tcp from any to any port = 
nicname
0 @3 pass out log quick on epair17b all
0 @1 pass in quick on lo0 all
0 @2 pass in log quick on epair17b all

There are 0 counts because the ipstate command is restricted from 
accessing kmem & kernel from inside of the vnet jail.

But this at lease seems to indicate ipfilter is running in the vnet jail.

Issuing the "ping" command from the started vnet jail console works and 
the hosts ipfilter log shows this  [sniped to fit]

fxp0 @0:2 p 10.11.0.2 -> 8.8.8.8 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echo/0 OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 8.8.8.8 -> 10.11.0.2 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echoreply/0 IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.11.0.2 -> 8.8.8.8 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echo/0 OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 8.8.8.8 -> 10.11.0.2 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echoreply/0 IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.11.0.2 -> 8.8.8.8 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echo/0 OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 8.8.8.8 -> 10.11.0.2 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echoreply/0 IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.11.0.2 -> 8.8.8.8 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echo/0 OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 8.8.8.8 -> 10.11.0.2 PR icmp len 20 84 icmp echoreply/0 IN


Issuing the "whois" command from the started vnet jail console works 
also, but should not work because of the block rule on port 43.
The hosts ipfilter log shows this  [sniped to fit]

fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51575 -> 192.0.32.59,43 PR tcp len 20 60 -S OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 192.0.32.59,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51575 PR tcp len 20 60 -AS IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51575 -> 192.0.32.59,43 PR tcp len 20 52 -A OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51575 -> 192.0.32.59,43 PR tcp len 20 61 -AP OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 192.0.32.59,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51575 PR tcp len 20 52 -A IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 192.0.32.59,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51575 PR tcp len 20 367 -AP IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 192.0.32.59,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51575 PR tcp len 20 52 -AF IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51575 -> 192.0.32.59,43 PR tcp len 20 52 -A OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51575 -> 192.0.32.59,43 PR tcp len 20 52 -AF OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51903 -> 199.71.0.46,43 PR tcp len 20 60 -S OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 192.0.32.59,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51575 PR tcp len 20 52 -A IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 199.71.0.46,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51903 PR tcp len 20 60 -AS IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51903 -> 199.71.0.46,43 PR tcp len 20 52 -A OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.2,51903 -> 199.71.0.46,43 PR tcp len 20 63 -AP OUT
fxp0 @0:2 p 199.71.0.46,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51903 PR tcp len 20 52 -A IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 199.71.0.46,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51903 PR tcp len 20 293 -AP IN
fxp0 @0:2 p 199.71.0.46,43 -> 10.2.0.2,51903 PR tcp len 20 1500 -A IN


I would think that this indicates that the ipfilter rules in a vnet jail 
are not functioning.

I can start the vnet jail without any firewall running in it and get the 
same results.

Thanks for your help.






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Hello,

I don't like to be able to click on tapping the touchpad, I've seen
the hw.psm.tap_enabled=0 tunable and added it into the
/boot/loader.conf.

However, I'm still able to click on the touchpad surface.

I'm not using xf86-input-synaptics, just the plain psm(4) driver with
synaptics support and moused.

Do you have any clue?

Regards

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Dear Colleagues,

I'm currently using vt(4) for my console on a 10.3-RELEASE system.
With the i915kms.ko loaded, my text console becomes 67 rows, 240 columns
(according to `stty -a`) with a very small font. 

How can I configure a larger font with less rows and columns? All my
knowledge of syscons, vidcontrol etc seems useless with vt+i915kms.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:24:30 +0200
> CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> wrote:
>
>> Playstation4 runs on FreeBSD :-)
>
>         I'll bet you can't get a FreeBSD PC to play any PS4 games though.
>

Uhm..that's interesting.
I've got a few months to decide which game machine to get for my son,
and I was wondering to build one by myself. Knowing that PS4 is based
on FreeBSD is a good news, even if I suspect it's true that porting
some games to FreeBSD pure machine will not be so easy...

Luca

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If you are really that worried about the pool in question and potential
damage I would do an image of the drive(s) before doing anything. Than you
can restore if anything does go horribly wrong.

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned this.

On 22 August 2016 at 16:04, Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su> wrote:

> Brandon J. Wandersee wrote:
> >
> > > I'll check with the stable version of beadm  in bhyve tomorrow, but
> > > please note that BE selection made by beadm-devel itself (from a
> > > working system) works perfectly. It's only the loader BE selection
> > > menu that has this problem.
>
> I have just verified, the boot menu problem is the same no matter if
> beadm of beadm-devel were used for BE creation.
>
> >
> > I just set up boot environments for the first time with sysutils/beadm
> > last week myself, so this seemed like as good a time as any to create
> > one and try it out. I get the same behavior: activating a boot
> > environment from a running system and rebooting works fine, but
> > selecting a boot environment from the boot menu fails. So it's probably
> > a problem with the loader. I'll comment on the bug report myself
> > shortly.
>
> Thank you for your comment on the bug report.
>
> What makes me suspicious is the fact that the menu shows
> zfs:zroot/ROOT/test1 as the Active BE but the bootfs is still
> zfs:zroot/ROOT/default:
>
>                                             s` `.....---.......--.```   -/
>  +============Welcome to FreeBSD===========+ +o   .--`         /y:`      +.
>  |                                         |  yo`:.            :o      `+-
>  |  1. Active: zfs:zroot/ROOT/test1        |   y/               -/`   -o/
>  |  2. bootfs: zfs:zroot/ROOT/default      |  .-                  ::/sy+:.
>  |  3. [P]age: 1 of 1                      |  /                     `--  /
>  |                                         | `:                          :`
>  |  Boot Environments:                     | `:                          :`
>  |  4. test1                               |  /                          /
>  |  5. default                             |  .-                        -.
>  |                                         |   --                      -.
>  |                                         |    `:`                  `:`
>  |                                         |      .--             `--.
>  |                                         |         .---.....----.
>  +=========================================+
>
> Is it supposed to be so?
>
> --
> Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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> On 23 Aug. 2016, at 15:58, Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su> wrote:
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> Dear Colleagues,
>=20
> I'm currently using vt(4) for my console on a 10.3-RELEASE system.
> With the i915kms.ko loaded, my text console becomes 67 rows, 240 =
columns
> (according to `stty -a`) with a very small font.=20
>=20
> How can I configure a larger font with less rows and columns? All my
> knowledge of syscons, vidcontrol etc seems useless with vt+i915kms.
>=20
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>=20
> --=20
> Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
> sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru

The short answer is: load a larger font. You can use the `vtfontcvt=E2=80=99=
 command to generate your own font from a bdf file - if you don=E2=80=99t =
care what font, http://terminus-font.sourceforge.net is available in a =
variety of sizes. Fonts that you put in /usr/share/vt/fonts will show up =
in `vidfont' too.

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:05:41 +0200
Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:24:30 +0200
> > CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> wrote:
> >
> >> Playstation4 runs on FreeBSD :-)
> >
> >         I'll bet you can't get a FreeBSD PC to play any PS4 games
> > though.
> >
> 
> Uhm..that's interesting.
> I've got a few months to decide which game machine to get for my son,
> and I was wondering to build one by myself. Knowing that PS4 is based
> on FreeBSD is a good news, even if I suspect it's true that porting
> some games to FreeBSD pure machine will not be so easy...

	Getting at the FreeBSD inside the PS4 isn't easy either, I'm not
even sure it's possible.

-- 
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bear in mind is a heavily customised version of freebsd. To the point where
is really isnt freebsd anymore. Most of the games will depend on various
additional propriety apis and libraries etc as well. I would expect OSX is
a closer pairing to freebsd than the PS4 os, but you wouldnt expect an
apple app to work on freebsd so I think getting ps4 games to run is a non
starter. Many os's have borrowed code from freebsd in the past. A lot of
the reason for this is the less restrictive license compared to linux. eg

NT4 had freebsd's ip stack,
junos was forked from freebsd ages ago,
netscalers are based on freebsd 8.4
ironports are freebsd based

there are many others as well

On 23 August 2016 at 09:05, Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:24:30 +0200
> > CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> wrote:
> >
> >> Playstation4 runs on FreeBSD :-)
> >
> >         I'll bet you can't get a FreeBSD PC to play any PS4 games though.
> >
>
> Uhm..that's interesting.
> I've got a few months to decide which game machine to get for my son,
> and I was wondering to build one by myself. Knowing that PS4 is based
> on FreeBSD is a good news, even if I suspect it's true that porting
> some games to FreeBSD pure machine will not be so easy...
>
> Luca
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:16:41 +0200
David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I don't like to be able to click on tapping the touchpad, I've seen
> the hw.psm.tap_enabled=0 tunable and added it into the
> /boot/loader.conf.
> 
> However, I'm still able to click on the touchpad surface.
> 
> I'm not using xf86-input-synaptics, just the plain psm(4) driver with
> synaptics support and moused.
> 
> Do you have any clue?
> 
> Regards
> 

According to psm(4) actually this is only supported on Synaptics
touchpads with Extended support disabled.
Check the value of hw.psm.synaptics_support to see if you have it
enabled.

HTH

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Hi Victor,

I have marked this one to be working. From the time stap I have used it
Aug 6 2015. So if nothing haven't changed after that it should work.


DISTRIBUTIONS=3D"kernel.txz base.txz krono.txz"
export ZFSBOOT_DISKS=3Dada0
export ZFSBOOT_VDEV_TYPE=3D"stripe"
#export ZFSBOOT_FORCE_4K_SECTORS=3D"0"
export ZFSBOOT_FORCE_4K_ALIGN=3D"0"
export ZFSBOOT_SWAP_SIZE=3D"5g"
export ZFSBOOT_SWAP_MIRROR=3D"0"
#export ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS=3D"-O compress=3Dlz4 -O checksum=3Dfl=
etcher4"
export nonInteractive=3D"YES"




On 14/07/16 07:45, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> OK, I'll phrase it differently. Could someone please give me a working
> example of a bsdinstall script (for "bsdinstall script") for an
> unattended installation on ZFS?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance.
>
> Victor Sudakov wrote:
>> I'm trying the "bsdinstall script myscript" automated setup feature on=

>> a 10.3-RELEASE system. When myscript looks like this:
>>
>> PARTITIONS=3Dmd0
>> DISTRIBUTIONS=3D"kernel.txz base.txz games.txz"
>>
>> everying goes fine.
>>
>> But when I change it into:
>>
>> ZFSBOOT_DISKS=3Dmd0
>> DISTRIBUTIONS=3D"kernel.txz base.txz games.txz"
>>
>> everything gets screwed up, bsdinstall spits out lots of debug and
>> goes interactive.
>>
>> What am I missing? What should an install script look like for
>> unattended ZFS install with a default dataset layout?=20
>>
>>
>> --=20
>> Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
>> sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru
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--=20
Yst=E4v=E4llisin Terveisin / Best Regards

Tommi Aropalo

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2016-08-23 11:51 GMT+02:00 maxnix <maxnix.bsd@gmail.com>:
> According to psm(4) actually this is only supported on Synaptics
> touchpads with Extended support disabled.
> Check the value of hw.psm.synaptics_support to see if you have it
> enabled.
>

Yep,

I've also added hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 also in the
/boot/loader.conf. Most of the features work like vertical scrolling.
Two finger scroll does not work though.


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Hi,

I am trying to set new zfs data set during installation time after the
preamble part. Setting the data set is fine but it gets mounted under
/mnt/mnt/opt. If I break installation process and do umount and then
remount it it will be under /mnt/opt.

This is what I do
#mkdir /opt
#zfs create zroot/mydir
#zfs set mountpoint="/opt/mydir" zroot/mydir
#pkg add mypkg ( it goes /opt/mydir)

After the reboot nothing can be found /opt/mydir. If I umount
zroot/mydir I can see pkg's there.

So why is zroot/mydir is mounted under /mnt/mnt/opt/mydir and not
/mnt/opt/mydir during running bsdinstall? And thus pkg's gets installed
to the wrong directory

Anyone any ideas!

-- 
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Hello,

Are there any plans to make stable port/package of OpenStack on FreeBSD? :-)

I have seen this nice article that first steps are already made:
http://empt1e.blogspot.com/2015/06/openstack-on-freebsdxen-proof-of-concept.html

It would be really nice to build this kind of cloud infrastructure on
top of FreeBSD :-)

Best regards :-)
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Short answer: no.

Long answer: No, there are currently no plans to support FreeBSD in
OpenStack. There was a blueprint to begin introducing support for compute
in Nova, but that was shelved a couple years ago, with no interested
parties (read: corporate sponsors) with the desire and skill to do so.

I understand this isn't the answer you're seeking, but this topic has been
visited a few times in the past, with no real movement.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:38 AM, CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Are there any plans to make stable port/package of OpenStack on FreeBSD?
> :-)
>
> I have seen this nice article that first steps are already made:
> http://empt1e.blogspot.com/2015/06/openstack-on-
> freebsdxen-proof-of-concept.html
>
> It would be really nice to build this kind of cloud infrastructure on
> top of FreeBSD :-)
>
> Best regards :-)
> Tomek
>
> --
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krad wrote:
> If you are really that worried about the pool in question and potential
> damage I would do an image of the drive(s) before doing anything. Than you
> can restore if anything does go horribly wrong.
> 
> I'm suprised nobody has mentioned this.

Probably because it's a) trivial and b) not always feasible (you don't
always have enough disk space and/or network bandwidth or can't afford
time to make a verbatim image of an entire drive of a system to be
repaired).

If by making an image you imply not dd, but "zfs send", then you have
to import the pool anyway.

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Felix Friedlander wrote:
> > 
> > I'm currently using vt(4) for my console on a 10.3-RELEASE system.
> > With the i915kms.ko loaded, my text console becomes 67 rows, 240 columns
> > (according to `stty -a`) with a very small font. 
> > 
> > How can I configure a larger font with less rows and columns? All my
> > knowledge of syscons, vidcontrol etc seems useless with vt+i915kms.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
> > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru
> 
> The short answer is: load a larger font. You can use the
> `vtfontcvt??? command to generate your own font from a bdf file - if
> you don???t care what font, http://terminus-font.sourceforge.net is
> available in a variety of sizes. 

I've tried converting some fonts from terminus-font-4.40/*.bdf,
none have given a satisfactory result. If anyone has a decent-looking
large FNT font (with Cyrillic characters), to make the vt console look
more like the traditional 80x25 terminal, please share.

> Fonts that you put in
> /usr/share/vt/fonts will show up in `vidfont' too.

And what's the rc.conf variable for setting the vidfont at boot time?


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Aropalo Tommi wrote:
> 
> I have marked this one to be working. From the time stap I have used it
> Aug 6 2015. So if nothing haven't changed after that it should work.
> 
> 
> DISTRIBUTIONS="kernel.txz base.txz krono.txz"
> export ZFSBOOT_DISKS=ada0
> export ZFSBOOT_VDEV_TYPE="stripe"
> #export ZFSBOOT_FORCE_4K_SECTORS="0"
> export ZFSBOOT_FORCE_4K_ALIGN="0"
> export ZFSBOOT_SWAP_SIZE="5g"
> export ZFSBOOT_SWAP_MIRROR="0"
> #export ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS="-O compress=lz4 -O checksum=fletcher4"
> export nonInteractive="YES"

Thanks!


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Victor Sudakov wrote:
> Felix Friedlander wrote:
>>> I'm currently using vt(4) for my console on a 10.3-RELEASE system.
>>> With the i915kms.ko loaded, my text console becomes 67 rows, 240 columns
>>> (according to `stty -a`) with a very small font. 
>>>
>>> How can I configure a larger font with less rows and columns? All my
>>> knowledge of syscons, vidcontrol etc seems useless with vt+i915kms.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
>>> sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru
>> The short answer is: load a larger font. You can use the
>> `vtfontcvt??? command to generate your own font from a bdf file - if
>> you don???t care what font, http://terminus-font.sourceforge.net is
>> available in a variety of sizes. 
> 
> I've tried converting some fonts from terminus-font-4.40/*.bdf,
> none have given a satisfactory result. If anyone has a decent-looking
> large FNT font (with Cyrillic characters), to make the vt console look
> more like the traditional 80x25 terminal, please share.
> 
>> Fonts that you put in
>> /usr/share/vt/fonts will show up in `vidfont' too.
> 
> And what's the rc.conf variable for setting the vidfont at boot time?
> 
> 

In /boot/loader.conf add these two lines to have vt console look more 
like the traditional sc 80x25 terminal,

kern.vty=vt
hw.vga.textmode=1




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Hi,
On amd64, after wading through updating a variety of headers,
running cd src && make buildworld I end up at a seeming dead
end here:

/usr/bin/cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/contrib/elftoolchain/libelftc 
-I/usr/src/contrib/elftoolchain/common -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include  -static 
-L/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/lib -o nm nm.o   -ldwarf  -lelf 
-L/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/src/lib/libelftc -lelftc  -lelf -legacy
nm.o: In function `read_object':
/usr/src/contrib/elftoolchain/nm/nm.c:(.text+0xf0f): undefined reference 
to `dwarf_errmsg_'

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Russell

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Would like to talk with anyone who has a working pf firewall on the host 
and in a vnet/vimage jail running on version 10.x or 11.0.
Looking for details about pf configuration and setup.

Thanks

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Ernie Luzar wrote:

[dd]

> 
> In /boot/loader.conf add these two lines to have vt console look more 
> like the traditional sc 80x25 terminal,
> 
> kern.vty=vt

I have it.

> hw.vga.textmode=1

I think it's irrelevant because I have to load i915kms.ko (to switch
between X and console).

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Hello list!

FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May 28 00:19:32 UTC 2016
root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64


About a week or so back i did a pkg delete -af
and that broke the C compiler in some strange way.

If i try pkg add /usr/ports/packages/Latest/pkg.txz the error is missing 
signature file.

Moving to /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg and doing a simple make i get this error

root@kw:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg # make
===>  Configuring for pkg-1.8.7_1
configure: loading site script /usr/ports/Templates/config.site
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... (cached) /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... (cached) /usr/bin/awk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
checking whether make supports nested variables... (cached) yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... cc
checking whether the C compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details
===>  Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to pkg@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the
"/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/config.log" including the output
of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to 
provide
an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. a
/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/src/pkg-static info -g -Ea).
*** [do-configure] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg.
*** [/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/.configure_done.pkg._usr_local] 
Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg.

Then i do

/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/src/pkg-static info -g -Ea

/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/src/pkg-static: Command not found.

I've uploaded the config.log to

https://minfil.org/W5tcoab2b5/config.log


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On 23 Aug 2016, at 18:55, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> Would like to talk with anyone who has a working pf firewall on the 
> host and in a vnet/vimage jail running on version 10.x or 11.0.
> Looking for details about pf configuration and setup.
>
pf on the host should work just fine in combination with vimage. I’ve 
been running such a setup since at least 10.0.

It’s a relatively simple setup: a couple if vimage jails with epair 
interfaces, one end in the jail, the other in a bridge.

What are you having issues with?

Regards,
Kristof

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 07:14:10PM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:
> Hello list!
>=20
> FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May 28 00:19:32 UTC 2016
> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>=20
>=20
> About a week or so back i did a pkg delete -af
> and that broke the C compiler in some strange way.

That should not be possible. The compiler is part of the base system.

> If i try pkg add /usr/ports/packages/Latest/pkg.txz the error is missing=
=20
> signature file.
>=20
> Moving to /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg and doing a simple make i get this er=
ror
>=20
> root@kw:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg # make
> =3D=3D=3D>  Configuring for pkg-1.8.7_1
> configure: loading site script /usr/ports/Templates/config.site
> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... (cached) /bin/mkdir -p
> checking for gawk... (cached) /usr/bin/awk
> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
> checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
> checking whether make supports nested variables... (cached) yes
> checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
> checking for style of include used by make... GNU
> checking for gcc... cc
> checking whether the C compiler works... no
> configure: error: in `/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7':
> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
> See `config.log' for more details
> =3D=3D=3D>  Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
> Please report the problem to pkg@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the
> "/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/config.log" including the output
> of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to=20
> provide
> an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. a
> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/src/pkg-static info -g -Ea).
> *** [do-configure] Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg.
> *** [/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/.configure_done.pkg._usr_local]=20
> Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg.
>=20
> Then i do
>=20
> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/src/pkg-static info -g -Ea
>=20
> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.8.7/src/pkg-static: Command not foun=
d.
>=20
> I've uploaded the config.log to
>=20
> https://minfil.org/W5tcoab2b5/config.log
>=20

=46rom the log file, the linker cannot find libgcc_s:

    configure:3581: checking whether the C compiler works
    configure:3603: cc -O2 -pipe -Wno-error -fstack-protector -fno-strict-a=
liasing
        -fstack-protector conftest.c  >&5
    /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
    configure:3607: $? =3D 1
    configure:3645: result: no

Verify that you still have /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 and /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so (the
latter should be a link to the former):

    > ls -l /lib/libgcc_s.* /usr/lib/libgcc_s*
    -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  56344 Jun 26 11:37 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
    lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     18 Jun 26 11:37 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so@ -> =
/lib/libgcc_s.so.1

If the symbolic link is missing, you can easily recreate that.
If the library has gone missing, restore it from a backup.

Roland
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On 2016-08-23 20:53, Roland Smith wrote:
>  From the log file, the linker cannot find libgcc_s:
>
>      configure:3581: checking whether the C compiler works
>      configure:3603: cc -O2 -pipe -Wno-error -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing
>          -fstack-protector conftest.c  >&5
>      /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
>      configure:3607: $? = 1
>      configure:3645: result: no
>
> Verify that you still have /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 and /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so (the
> latter should be a link to the former):
>
>      > ls -l /lib/libgcc_s.* /usr/lib/libgcc_s*
>      -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  56344 Jun 26 11:37 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
>      lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     18 Jun 26 11:37 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so@ -> /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
>
> If the symbolic link is missing, you can easily recreate that.
> If the library has gone missing, restore it from a backup.
>
> Roland
Mine looks like this, so i'm

root@kw:/lib # ls -l /lib/libgcc_s.* /usr/lib/libgcc_s*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     34 Jul 17  2015 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 -> 
/usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgcc_s.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  59728 Feb 18  2015 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1-bak
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     18 Feb 18  2015 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so -> 
/lib/libgcc_s.so.1

renaming the *bak file.

Thank you Roland!\

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:59:35PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> Felix Friedlander wrote:
> > >=20
> > > I'm currently using vt(4) for my console on a 10.3-RELEASE system.
> > > With the i915kms.ko loaded, my text console becomes 67 rows, 240 colu=
mns
> > > (according to `stty -a`) with a very small font.

According to the newcons wiki and vt(4), you should be able to set the size=
 with a
sysctl, e.g:

    kern.vt.fb.default_mode=3D"1024x768"

And you should be able to use vidcontrol(1) to query the available modes, b=
ut
I've never tried that yet.

> > > How can I configure a larger font with less rows and columns? All my
> > > knowledge of syscons, vidcontrol etc seems useless with vt+i915kms.
> > >=20
> > > Thanks in advance for any help.
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
> > > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru
> >=20
> > The short answer is: load a larger font. You can use the
> > `vtfontcvt??? command to generate your own font from a bdf file - if
> > you don???t care what font, http://terminus-font.sourceforge.net is
> > available in a variety of sizes.=20
>=20
> I've tried converting some fonts from terminus-font-4.40/*.bdf,
> none have given a satisfactory result. If anyone has a decent-looking
> large FNT font (with Cyrillic characters), to make the vt console look
> more like the traditional 80x25 terminal, please share.
>=20
> > Fonts that you put in
> > /usr/share/vt/fonts will show up in `vidfont' too.
>=20
> And what's the rc.conf variable for setting the vidfont at boot time?

To set e.g. the =E2=80=9Cgallant=E2=80=9D font, put

    allscreens_flags=3D"-f gallant"

in /etc/rc.conf. This is passed to vidcontrol(1).


Roland
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Ok.  Figured out something.  It seems that the reason this is happening 
is that the external authentication module is now part of RT core and 
the external auth was a dependency of RT4.2.  So, I removed the existing 
module.  Everything is find and LDAP authentication still works.

Just in case someone else runs into this.

P.

On 08/22/2016 12:05, pathiaki2 via freebsd-questions wrote:
> Good day,
>
> I'm having a behavior with pkg that I don't understand after reading 
> maillists, man pages, etc.
>
> I have RT4.4 installed.
>
> I perform pkg update, pkg upgrade, and then get the following:
>
> root@ticket:/ # pkg upgrade
> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...
> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date.
> All repositories are up-to-date.
> Checking for upgrades (8 candidates): 100%
> Processing candidates (8 candidates): 100%
> The following 6 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):
>
> New packages to be INSTALLED:
>     rt42: 4.2.13
>     p5-HTML-FormatExternal: 26
>     p5-constant-defer: 6
>     lynx: 2.8.8.2_4,1
>     p5-FCGI-ProcManager: 0.25
>
> Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
>     p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth: 0.25_2 -> 0.26
>
> Number of packages to be installed: 5
> Number of packages to be upgraded: 1
>
> The process will require 29 MiB more space.
> 6 MiB to be downloaded.
>
> Proceed with this action? [y/N]: n
> root:/ # pkg upgrade -f p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth
> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...
> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date.
> All repositories are up-to-date.
> The following 6 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):
>
> New packages to be INSTALLED:
>     rt42: 4.2.13
>     p5-HTML-FormatExternal: 26
>     p5-constant-defer: 6
>     lynx: 2.8.8.2_4,1
>     p5-FCGI-ProcManager: 0.25
>
> Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
>     p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth: 0.25_2 -> 0.26
>
> Number of packages to be installed: 5
> Number of packages to be upgraded: 1
>
> The process will require 29 MiB more space.
> 6 MiB to be downloaded.
>
> Proceed with this action? [y/N]: ^Cpkg:
> signal received, cleaning up
>
> root:/ #
>
> I'm confused by this.  First, I thought that I could force the upgrade 
> of an individual package which I am trying to do with 
> p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth.  However, this seems to want rt42. 
> Shouldn't it allow me to update that individual package?  I know a 
> workaround is to just build the port and everything will be fine, 
> however, I think this is a bug of incorrect behavior in pkg.  If not, 
> could someone explain this to me?  Did I miss something in the docs 
> somewhere?
>
> Thank you,
>
> P.
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Steve O'Hara-Smith writes:

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:05:41 +0200
> Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:24:30 +0200
>> > CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Playstation4 runs on FreeBSD :-)
>> >
>> >         I'll bet you can't get a FreeBSD PC to play any PS4 games
>> > though.
>> >
>> 
>> Uhm..that's interesting.
>> I've got a few months to decide which game machine to get for my son,
>> and I was wondering to build one by myself. Knowing that PS4 is based
>> on FreeBSD is a good news, even if I suspect it's true that porting
>> some games to FreeBSD pure machine will not be so easy...
>
> 	Getting at the FreeBSD inside the PS4 isn't easy either, I'm not
> even sure it's possible.

It's irrelevant. FreeBSD doesn't run the games. It runs the proprietary
encoding and DRM software and speaks to the custom-made hardware that in
turn run the games. Ask yourself how building a custom PC with FreeBSD
on it would run Sony the millions of dollars it spent developing the
thing.

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Hi!

I have all the time a problem with javavmwrapper update:

The following 2 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
	javavmwrapper: 2.5_1 -> 2.5_2 [Synth]
	gnome-maps: 3.18.2 -> 3.18.3.1 [Synth]

Number of packages to be upgraded: 2
[1/2] Upgrading javavmwrapper from 2.5_1 to 2.5_2...
[1/2] Extracting javavmwrapper-2.5_2: 100%
You may need to manually remove /usr/local/etc/javavm_opts.conf if it
is no longer needed.
pkg: Fail to rename /usr/local/bin/.checkvms.bXXh3w3Ise7z ->
/usr/local/bin/checkvms: No such file or directory
Unfortunately, the system upgrade failed.

The same problem with pkg upgrade or update.
I am using Synth on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE (amd64).
For now I first pkg delete javavmwrapper and than install the package
and is okay.

Thank you.


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Roland Smith wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I'm currently using vt(4) for my console on a 10.3-RELEASE system.
> > > > With the i915kms.ko loaded, my text console becomes 67 rows, 240 columns
> > > > (according to `stty -a`) with a very small font.
> 
> According to the newcons wiki and vt(4), you should be able to set the size with a
> sysctl, e.g:
> 
>     kern.vt.fb.default_mode="1024x768"

I have just checked out with `stty -a`, the number of rows and columns
changes dynamically when I change the font. So maybe if I find a font
large enough, there will be no need for this sysctl.

vgarom-8x16.fnt is not large enough for my eyes.

[dd]

> > 
> > And what's the rc.conf variable for setting the vidfont at boot time?
> 
> To set e.g. the ???gallant??? font, put
> 
>     allscreens_flags="-f gallant"
> 
> in /etc/rc.conf. This is passed to vidcontrol(1).

Thanks a lot!

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Felix Friedlander wrote:

[dd]

> If you just want to use a builtin font, then `gallant' is larger
> than the default font, 

But does not have Cyrillic characters.

> and `vgarom-16x32' is much larger again.

Felix, where did you get it? Can you please share it?
There is no such font on my 10.3 system:

# ls /usr/share/vt/fonts/
gallant.fnt             ter-u16n.fnt            vgarom-8x16.fnt
ter-u14b.fnt            ter-u16v.fnt            vgarom-8x8.fnt
ter-u14n.fnt            ter-u32b.fnt            vgarom-thin-8x16.fnt
ter-u14v.fnt            ter-u32n.fnt            vgarom-thin-8x8.fnt
ter-u16b.fnt            vgarom-8x14.fnt

(the ter-* fonts are my experiment with Terminus, none of them turned
out good enough).



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I think you need only

export ZFSBOOT_DISKS and nonInteractive

rest are just more or less options


On 23/08/16 19:23, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> Aropalo Tommi wrote:
>> I have marked this one to be working. From the time stap I have used it
>> Aug 6 2015. So if nothing haven't changed after that it should work.
>>
>>
>> DISTRIBUTIONS="kernel.txz base.txz krono.txz"
>> export ZFSBOOT_DISKS=ada0
>> export ZFSBOOT_VDEV_TYPE="stripe"
>> #export ZFSBOOT_FORCE_4K_SECTORS="0"
>> export ZFSBOOT_FORCE_4K_ALIGN="0"
>> export ZFSBOOT_SWAP_SIZE="5g"
>> export ZFSBOOT_SWAP_MIRROR="0"
>> #export ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS="-O compress=lz4 -O checksum=fletcher4"
>> export nonInteractive="YES"
> Thanks!
>
>


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> There is no such font on my 10.3 system:
>=20
> # ls /usr/share/vt/fonts/
> gallant.fnt             ter-u16n.fnt            vgarom-8x16.fnt
> ter-u14b.fnt            ter-u16v.fnt            vgarom-8x8.fnt
> ter-u14n.fnt            ter-u32b.fnt            vgarom-thin-8x16.fnt
> ter-u14v.fnt            ter-u32n.fnt            vgarom-thin-8x8.fnt
> ter-u16b.fnt            vgarom-8x14.fnt

Whoops, I forgot - it=E2=80=99s not in -RELEASE yet. You can download a =
copy of the HEX from =
https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/share/vt/fonts/vgarom-16x32.hex, and =
build it yourself if you like.

>=20
> (the ter-* fonts are my experiment with Terminus, none of them turned
> out good enough).

I think I know where you=E2=80=99re going wrong with the terminus fonts. =
Try this way:

% vtfontcvt -w 16 -h 32 ter-u32n.bdf ter-u32b.bdf ter-u32.fnt

If this isn=E2=80=99t any better, let me know what the problem is, =
because I=E2=80=99m using that exact font quite happily.

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Anything special required for that? Last time I tried VIMAGE and VNET jails
I just got kernel panics. I wasnt doing anything special. I memory is fuzzy
though, and it could have been 9-stable i tried it on.

On 23 August 2016 at 18:24, Kristof Provost <kp@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 23 Aug 2016, at 18:55, Ernie Luzar wrote:
>
>> Would like to talk with anyone who has a working pf firewall on the host
>> and in a vnet/vimage jail running on version 10.x or 11.0.
>> Looking for details about pf configuration and setup.
>>
>> pf on the host should work just fine in combination with vimage. I=E2=80=
=99ve
> been running such a setup since at least 10.0.
>
> It=E2=80=99s a relatively simple setup: a couple if vimage jails with epa=
ir
> interfaces, one end in the jail, the other in a bridge.
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> What are you having issues with?
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On 24 Aug 2016, at 11:23, krad wrote:
> Anything special required for that? Last time I tried VIMAGE and VNET 
> jails
> I just got kernel panics. I wasnt doing anything special. I memory is 
> fuzzy
> though, and it could have been 9-stable i tried it on.
>
No, just enabling VIMAGE in the kernel config.

9-stable is … old, so if you’re interested in VIMAGE I’d recommend 
trying 12-current (or 11-stable).

Regards,
Kristof

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Felix Friedlander wrote:
> > There is no such font on my 10.3 system:
> > 
> > # ls /usr/share/vt/fonts/
> > gallant.fnt             ter-u16n.fnt            vgarom-8x16.fnt
> > ter-u14b.fnt            ter-u16v.fnt            vgarom-8x8.fnt
> > ter-u14n.fnt            ter-u32b.fnt            vgarom-thin-8x16.fnt
> > ter-u14v.fnt            ter-u32n.fnt            vgarom-thin-8x8.fnt
> > ter-u16b.fnt            vgarom-8x14.fnt
> 
> Whoops, I forgot - it???s not in -RELEASE yet. You can download a
> copy of the HEX from
> https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/share/vt/fonts/vgarom-16x32.hex,
> and build it yourself if you like.
> 

This looks very good, thought a bit raggy.

> > 
> > (the ter-* fonts are my experiment with Terminus, none of them turned
> > out good enough).
> 
> I think I know where you???re going wrong with the terminus fonts. Try this way:
> 
> % vtfontcvt -w 16 -h 32 ter-u32n.bdf ter-u32b.bdf ter-u32.fnt
> 
> If this isn???t any better, let me know what the problem is, because
> I???m using that exact font quite happily.

And this is simply perfect. Thank you very much indeed, Felix!


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On 22 August 2016 at 06:56, eteep <eteepfiles@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I tried searching for previous occurrences of the issue but found
> nothing so far. It is with the port multimedia/quodlibet. It fails build
> but I'm not so much more than an ordinary schuck and it doesn't clearly
> indicate what is up(to me anyway). Looks like it is an issue relating to
> python and it
> looks like I have both python 27 and 34 installed. I've had to resolve
> version conflicts before in ports and it has occurred to me there might
> be one here and yet the port py27-six-1.10.0 seems to indicate thats not
> the case.
>
> So rather than spinning my wheels on this I figured I would post to see
> if more experienced eyes can see what I can't.
>

Hi eteep,

I was the last person to make a change to the audio/quodlibet port, but I
cannot repeat your error.

I assume it must be something to do with building the port in an
environment which has both python 2 and python 3 installed. Have you tried
building it in a "clean" environment (e.g. using poudriere)?

Anyone else know what this error means?

File "gdist/gettextutil.py", line 42, in update_pot
    raise GettextError(e)
gdist.gettextutil.GettextError: Command '['intltool-update', '--pot',
'--gettext-package', 'quodlibet']' returned non-zero exit status 1
*** Error code 1



Regards,
Ben

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I don't know who should be dealing with this problem:
FreeBSD, Xorg, or Openchrome ...

Having 9.3 installed, but having a problem with Opera-12.16
crashing on Javascript-based uploading to various datafile
hosting websites, everything except the base system was removed,
and the current version of the ports tarball installed, followed
by the current port of 'pkg'.  That was the only port installed.
Then, using 'pkg install', Xorg was installed, followed by the
native FreeBSD Opera-12.16.  After starting 'X', a segmentation
fault occured.  The previous xorg.conf was removed for a default
start of 'X/Xorg', and the same segmentation fault occured as
shown below.  What should my next step be?  I need to get some
sort of graphical browser going, and this is a critical problem.
No advice is currently being offered on the Xorg IRC channel,
and nothing similar shows at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
and I lack the expertise to know who should be fixing this.

[294971.522] X.Org X Server 1.17.4
             Release Date: 2015-10-28
[294971.523] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[294971.523] Build Operating System: FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p45 i386
[294971.523] Current Operating System: FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE:
             Tue Jul 28 04:28:10 AKDT 2015
             /usr/obj/u0/src/sys/MYKERN i386
[294971.524] Build Date: 17 August 2016  02:00:33AM
[294971.524]
[294971.524] Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
[294971.524] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
             to make sure that you have the latest version.
[294971.524] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
             (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
             (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[294971.525] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log",
                  Time: Wed Aug 24 12:39:35 2016
[294971.528] (II) Loader magic: 0x8226b40
[294971.528] (II) Module ABI versions:
[294971.528] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[294971.528] X.Org Video Driver: 19.0
[294971.528] X.Org XInput driver : 21.0
[294971.528] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0
[294971.529] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1106:3122:1106:3122 rev 3,
                  Mem @ 0xd8000000/67108864, 0xdc000000/16777216,
                  BIOS @ 0x????????/65536
[294971.529] (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
[294971.529] (==) --- Start of built-in configuration ---
[294971.529] Section "Device"
[294971.529] Identifier"Builtin Default openchrome Device 0"
[294971.529] Driver"openchrome"
[294971.529] EndSection
[294971.529] Section "Screen"
[294971.529] Identifier"Builtin Default openchrome Screen 0"
[294971.530] Device"Builtin Default openchrome Device 0"
[294971.530] EndSection
[294971.530] Section "Device"
[294971.530] Identifier"Builtin Default fbdev Device 0"
[294971.530] Driver"fbdev"
[294971.530] EndSection
[294971.530] Section "Screen"
[294971.530] Identifier"Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0"
[294971.530] Device"Builtin Default fbdev Device 0"
[294971.530] EndSection
[294971.530] Section "Device"
[294971.530] Identifier"Builtin Default vesa Device 0"
[294971.530] Driver"vesa"
[294971.530] EndSection
[294971.530] Section "Screen"
[294971.530] Identifier"Builtin Default vesa Screen 0"
[294971.530] Device"Builtin Default vesa Device 0"
[294971.530] EndSection
[294971.530] Section "ServerLayout"
[294971.530] Identifier"Builtin Default Layout"
[294971.530] Screen"Builtin Default openchrome Screen 0"
[294971.530] Screen"Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0"
[294971.530] Screen"Builtin Default vesa Screen 0"
[294971.530] EndSection
[294971.530] (==) --- End of built-in configuration ---
[294971.531] (==) ServerLayout "Builtin Default Layout"
[294971.531] (**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default openchrome Screen 0" (0)
[294971.531] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[294971.532] (**) |   |-->Device "Builtin Default openchrome Device 0"
[294971.532] (==) No monitor specified for screen
                  "Builtin Default openchrome Screen 0".
                  Using a default monitor configuration.
[294971.532] (**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0" (1)
[294971.532] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[294971.533] (**) |   |-->Device "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0"
[294971.533] (==) No monitor specified for screen
                  "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0".
                  Using a default monitor configuration.
[294971.533] (**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0" (2)
[294971.533] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[294971.534] (**) |   |-->Device "Builtin Default vesa Device 0"
[294971.534] (==) No monitor specified for screen
                  "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0".
                  Using a default monitor configuration.
[294971.534] (==) Automatically adding devices
[294971.534] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[294971.534] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices
[294971.535] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/,
/usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/,
/usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/,
/usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/
[294971.535] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
[294971.535] (II) The server relies on devd to provide the list
                  of input devices.  If no devices become available,
                  reconfigure devd or disable AutoAddDevices.
[294971.535] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[294971.537] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[294971.549] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[294971.549] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 1.0.0
[294971.549] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0
[294971.549] (==) AIGLX enabled
[294971.549] (II) LoadModule: "openchrome"
[294971.550] (II) Loading
                  /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/openchrome_drv.so
[294971.552] (II) Module openchrome: vendor="http://openchrome.org/"
[294971.552] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 0.3.3
[294971.552] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[294971.552] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[294971.552] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[294971.555] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[294971.555] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[294971.555] (II) Unloading fbdev
[294971.555] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[294971.555] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[294971.556] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[294971.576] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[294971.577] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 2.3.4
[294971.577] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[294971.577] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[294971.577] (II) OPENCHROME: Driver for VIA Chrome chipsets:
             CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400,
             VM800/P4M800Pro/VN800/CN700, CX700/VX700, K8M890/K8N890,
             P4M890, P4M900/VN896/CN896, VX800/VX820, VX855/VX875, VX900
[294971.577] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[294971.578] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
[294971.578] (--) using VT number 9
[294971.584] (!!) VIA Technologies does not support this driver in any way.
[294971.584] (!!) For support, please refer to http://www.openchrome.org/.
[294971.584] (!!) (development build, compiled on Wed Aug 17 02:37:17 2016)
[294971.584] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[294971.584] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter,
                  no multi-card support
[294971.584] (II) CHROME(0): VIAPreInit
[294971.584] (II) CHROME(0): VIAGetRec
[294971.585] (--) CHROME(0): Chipset: CLE266
[294971.585] (--) CHROME(0): Chipset revision: 0
[294971.586] (II) [drm] KMS supported
[294971.586] (II) CHROME(0): [drm] via interface version: 2.11.1
[294971.586] (II) CHROME(0): DRI 1 api supported
[294971.586] (II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
[294971.586] (II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
[294971.588] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so
[294971.588] (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[294971.588] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 0.1.0
[294971.588] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[294971.589] (--) CHROME(0): Probed amount of VideoRAM = 32768 kB
[294971.589] (II) CHROME(0): VIAMapMMIO
[294971.589] (--) CHROME(0): mapping MMIO @ 0xdc000000 with size 0xd000
[294971.589] (--) CHROME(0): mapping BitBlt MMIO @ 0xdc200000
                             with size 0x200000
[294971.589] (II) CHROME(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0
[294971.590] (II) CHROME(0): VIAMapFB
[294971.590] (--) CHROME(0): mapping framebuffer @ 0xd8000000
                             with size 0x2000000
[294971.638] (--) CHROME(0): Frame buffer start: 0x29000000, free start:
                             0x0 end: 0x2000000
[294971.638] (II) CHROME(0): Creating default Display subsection
                             in Screen section
                             "Builtin Default openchrome Screen 0"
                             for depth/fbbpp 24/32
[294971.638] (==) CHROME(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[294971.638] (==) CHROME(0): RGB weight 888
[294971.638] (==) CHROME(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[294971.638] (II) CHROME(0): VIASetupDefaultOptions
                             Setting up default chipset options.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Shadow framebuffer is disabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Hardware acceleration is disabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Using hardware two-color cursors and
                             software full-color cursors.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): GPU virtual command queue will be enabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): DRI IRQ will be enabled if DRI is enabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): AGP DMA will be enabled if DRI is enabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): AGP DMA will be used for 2D acceleration.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): PCI DMA will be used for XV image transfer
                             if DRI is enabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Will not enable VBE modes.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): VBE VGA register save & restore will not be used
                             if VBE modes are enabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Xv Bandwidth check is enabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Will not impose a limit on video RAM
                             reserved for DRI.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Will try to allocate 32768 kB of AGP memory.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): TV dotCrawl is disabled.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): TV deflicker is set to 0.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): No default TV type is set.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): No default TV output signal type is set.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): No default TV output port is set.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Will not print VGA registers.
[294971.639] (==) CHROME(0): Will not scan I2C buses.
[294971.639] (II) CHROME(0): ...Finished parsing config file options.
[294971.640] (WW) CHROME(0): Manufacturer plainly copied main PCI IDs
                  to subsystem/card IDs.
[294971.640] (--) CHROME(0): Detected VIA VT3122 (CLE266)-EPIA M/MII/
                  .... Card-Ids (1106|3122)
[294971.640] (II) CHROME(0): KMSCrtcInit
[294971.640] (II) CHROME(0): VIAFreeRec
[294971.640] (II) CHROME(0): VIAUnmapMem
[294971.655] (II) CHROME(0): VIAFreeScreen
[294971.655] (EE) Segmentation fault: 11 at address 0x37c
[294971.656] (EE) Fatal server error:
[294971.656] (EE) Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault: 11). Server aborting
[294971.656] (EE)
[294971.656] (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at
                  http://wiki.x.org for help.
[294971.656] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
                  for additional information.
[294971.656] (EE)
[294971.674] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.


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Presently I'm again in the situation to have to recover a hard disk that 
has a Windows NTFS on it, refused to
boot Windows 7 and has a lot of I/O-Errors.

I connected the disk to my FreeBSD system and now I'm trying to create a 
dump of it using "recoverdisk".

But it gives I/O-errors lots and lots and this quite slowly:


(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 00 ()
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): FLUSHCACHE48. ACB: ea 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 71 (DRDY DF SERV ERR), error: 04 (ABRT )
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 71 04 9d 00 32 40 00 00 00 04 00
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): FLUSHCACHE48. ACB: ea 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 71 (DRDY DF SERV ERR), error: 04 (ABRT )
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 71 04 9d 00 32 40 00 00 00 04 00
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted
(ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed

Setting
sysctl kern.cam.ada.retry_count=0

seems to run faster but still it's not gathering any percentage. Still 
staying at 0.00000 after running some 10 minutes or so.

What else could I do? Skipping disk blocks/cylinders?

The aim is to produces an image of the disk that contains as much as 
possible sane sectors with the rest filled wth 0,
so that the dump still keeps a mirror of the disk (with holes in it, of 
course). Once being done, I'd apply a

program like "testdisk" that can do a deep search and can try to recover 
the partition information and the file system (hopefully).


--

Christoph



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Hi,

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, at 16:46, Christoph P.U. Kukulies wrote:
> Presently I'm again in the situation to have to recover a hard disk that 
> has a Windows NTFS on it, refused to
> boot Windows 7 and has a lot of I/O-Errors.

sounds like ddrescue in ports/sysutils will do what you want

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The reason I asked the previous question to this list is:

1. It is difficult to believe a non-functional graphics driver
(openchrome) could get into the Xorg packaging system without
proper functioning being tested and verified.

2. It would appear to be an openchrome problem, but I thought
maybe it could be due to the GCC->Clang transition.

Anyway, this has totally 'screwed' my business, since all
machines use this driver, and none have a windowing system now.


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ieee(3) and many older sources mention p854 as
an extension to standard 754. I cannot find
any trace of p854 past 1985. Has it been obsoleted
by the development of 754?

Thanks

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:44:34 +0200
David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2016-08-23 11:51 GMT+02:00 maxnix <maxnix.bsd@gmail.com>:
> > According to psm(4) actually this is only supported on Synaptics
> > touchpads with Extended support disabled.
> > Check the value of hw.psm.synaptics_support to see if you have it
> > enabled.
> >  
> 
> Yep,
> 
> I've also added hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 also in the
> /boot/loader.conf. Most of the features work like vertical scrolling.
> Two finger scroll does not work though.
> 
> 

Wait, hw.psm.synaptics_support must be set to 0 to disable Extended
support. For the two finger scrolling issue give a look here:
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/53720/

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On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 07:04:30 -0800
"CK" <un_x@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I don't know who should be dealing with this problem:
> FreeBSD, Xorg, or Openchrome ...
> 
> Having 9.3 installed, but having a problem with Opera-12.16
> crashing on Javascript-based uploading to various datafile

	Opera 12.16 is very old now (it's not been in active development for
many years) and tends to be quite troublesome IME, which is a pity as it is
nice and light compared to many other browsers, so once you get X working
agaih you may find it worthwhile to try another browser (perhaps chromium
or firefox).

	As for getting X11 working - that core dump is probably worth a
bug report and asking about on the freebsd-x11 mailing list.

	One thing that strikes me is that 32MB seems rather small for video
RAM these days perhaps that needs to be forced up somehow.

	Finally if you have a machine available try 10.3.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>

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Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Xorg/Openchrome Segfault
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 08:14:51AM -0800, CK wrote:
>
> The reason I asked the previous question to this list is:
> 
> 1. It is difficult to believe a non-functional graphics driver
> (openchrome) could get into the Xorg packaging system without
> proper functioning being tested and verified.
> 
> 2. It would appear to be an openchrome problem, but I thought
> maybe it could be due to the GCC->Clang transition.

You've made a whole pile of assumptions there that may or may not be true.

Steve politely pitched it to you that you were using an archaic application on
an archaic version of an OS for an architecture that not a lot of people use
these days and you may be advised to upgrade your system and/or application
software.

I don't know why but I didn't receive a copy of your reply to him thanking him
for his observations and spending his time on the matter.

> 
> Anyway, this has totally 'screwed' my business, since all
> machines use this driver, and none have a windowing system now.

I'm sure you'll be happy to point out what contributions you or your business
have made to FreeBSD. 

Feel free to post URLs of commits you have made to src, ports or docs. Any
monetary contributions you have made to the Foundation or to port maintainers
who maintain the ports your business depends on.

Even answers to other user's questions on this list that you have made would
be a start....

Until then: best of luck with your business!

Toodle pip!


-- 

Frank

https://woodcruft.co.uk/


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Well, to add to this thread in the hope of fixing something so
that X11 works on VIA boards, this is what I have discovered
thus far:

9.3-RELEASE: uses the Xorg VIA driver 0.3.3_1

11.x-current: uses the Xorg VIA driver 0.3.3_6

So, they are essentially the same, and after recompiling the
9.3-RELEASE OpenChrome driver, and installing the 2 libraries
(libchromeXvMCPro.so.1.0.0, libchromeXvMC.so.1.0.0) and 1 driver
(openchrome_drv.so), nothing changed, the same segmentation
fault is occuring.  So it appears that Xorg broke the
functionality, since the driver remained essentially the same
(the libs diff-er, but the version numbers are similar).

After searching/reading some more, Phoronix seems to stay on top
of OpenChrome development, and this is a driver which seems to
have a lot of issues/problems/bugs, and someone on #Xorg said
VIA is not liked by many FreeBSD developers, so I'm unlikely to
get help on this issue; so, that's just great.  I didn't see any
red-flags or warnings in any FreeBSD docs when the boards were
purchased, and they are used as part of Fanless Mini-ITX
systems, and other than a cp/mv 'bug' between USB storage and
ATA storage devices (this causes a kernel crash, and 'cat(1)'
must be used to copy/move between such devices), the boards work
fine, and there is no intention to dispose of them, so any work
on drivers is appreciated.

That said, the OpenChrome driver is now up to 0.5+, far beyond
0.3.3, with a new developer actively working on the project, and
many Linux distributions incorporate 0.5+ ...  But I am not a
great enough hacker to do this for FreeBSD, and whether it will
resolve Xorg/OpenChrome issues is unknown to me.  But I am very
much 'screwed/fucked' at this time, because I have no graphical
windows interface or graphical javascript browser which are
requirements in my workplace.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topic&q=VIA

https://www.mail-archive.com/openchrome-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg02109.htm

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/openchrome/xf86-video-openchrome/

So, I am still looking for any assistance in getting Xorg
working with any version of OpenChrome that will work.


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What kind of dumbass reply is this?  Why even bother to make
such a reply?  What do you know about anything?  FYI, I have
been running FreeBSD for over 20 years, and spent over 1/2 a
decade helping people on this maillist from 1995-2000+, and my
"business" is not for monetary gain, it is for the benefit of
people and this world, on extremely critical+serious
technological topics that few in the world could understand,
while I barely sustain on less than $4000/year.

I've been busy trying to research this problem while Steve made
a reply.  I have half a website dedicated to FreeBSD code in
service to others.  Please, don't reply with further asshole
comments like this, it serves no purpose other than broadcasting
your ignorance+idiocy.  Toodle-pip - very effeminate.

>   Frank Shute frank at woodcruft.co.uk
>   Wed Aug 24 21:20:15 UTC 2016
>
>> The reason I asked the previous question to this list is:
>>
>> 1. It is difficult to believe a non-functional graphics driver
>> (openchrome) could get into the Xorg packaging system without
>> proper functioning being tested and verified.
>>
>> 2. It would appear to be an openchrome problem, but I thought
>> maybe it could be due to the GCC->Clang transition.
>
>You've made a whole pile of assumptions there that may or may not be true.
>
>Steve politely pitched it to you that you were using an archaic application on
>an archaic version of an OS for an architecture that not a lot of people use
>these days and you may be advised to upgrade your system and/or application
>software.
>
>I don't know why but I didn't receive a copy of your reply to him thanking him
>for his observations and spending his time on the matter.
>
>> Anyway, this has totally 'screwed' my business, since all
>> machines use this driver, and none have a windowing system now.
>
>I'm sure you'll be happy to point out what contributions you or your business
>have made to FreeBSD.
>
>Feel free to post URLs of commits you have made to src, ports or docs. Any
>monetary contributions you have made to the Foundation or to port maintainers
>who maintain the ports your business depends on.
>
>Even answers to other user's questions on this list that you have made would
>be a start....
>
>Until then: best of luck with your business!
>
>Toodle pip!
>--
>Frank
>https://woodcruft.co.uk/


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Yes, I am familiar with the "Opera 12.16 is very old" mantra,
but HTML4 is HTML4, and there is no interest in
video/flash/HTML5 here.  Opera is a great browser, but it did
fail on uploading to datafile hosting websites which always use
javascript, and this requirement became crucial.  The whole
reason to download the current ports.txz was to try Xombrero,
which has so many dependencies, it was preferable to try a
precompiled 'pkg' installation; however, 9.3 'pkg' is totally
incompatable with the new 'pkg' in effect, thus requiring a
whole new ports upgrade, which resulted in the Xorg/OpenChrome
troubles.

Thanks for the x11 bug report and mailing list advice.
32MB is the AGP setting in BIOS, which can go up to 64MB,
but no more than 32MB was ever used when set to 64MB when
this was last tested, and at this time, Xorg seems to
disable AGP entirely for the OpenChrome driver:

[337143.467] (**) CHROME(0): Option "EnableAGPDMA" "off"

As was shown in the initial log.  Yes, 10.3 is an option.  But
also is the option of using the 0.5 version of OpenChrome as
opposed to the 0.3.3 version in the current ports tree.

>Opera 12.16 is very old now (it's not been in active development
>for many years) and tends to be quite troublesome IME, which is
>a pity as it is nice and light compared to many other browsers,
>so once you get X working agaih you may find it worthwhile to
>try another browser (perhaps chromium or firefox).
>
>As for getting X11 working - that core dump is probably worth a
>bug report and asking about on the freebsd-x11 mailing list.
>
>One thing that strikes me is that 32MB seems rather small for
>video RAM these days perhaps that needs to be forced up somehow.
>
>Finally if you have a machine available try 10.3.
>--
>Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve at sohara.org>


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Hello,

On 08/24/2016 09:09 PM, CK wrote:
> What kind of dumbass reply is this?  Why even bother to make
> such a reply?  What do you know about anything?  FYI, I have
> been running FreeBSD for over 20 years, and spent over 1/2 a
> decade helping people on this maillist from 1995-2000+, and my

Chocolate chip or oatmeal raisin?

> "business" is not for monetary gain, it is for the benefit of
> people and this world, on extremely critical+serious
> technological topics that few in the world could understand,
> while I barely sustain on less than $4000/year.

Don't you think "extremely critical" is a bit redundant? Perhaps if you 
had better "people skills" you'd be able to explain to the the slow 
folks like us why these "extremely critical+serious [sic] technological 
topics that few in the world could understand" haven't received funding 
so you could use modern technology? I hear the Gates Foundation has money...

>
> I've been busy trying to research this problem while Steve made
> a reply.  I have half a website dedicated to FreeBSD code in
> service to others.

And yet still you use an earthlink email.

Please, don't reply with further asshole
> comments like this, it serves no purpose other than broadcasting
> your ignorance+idiocy.  Toodle-pip - very effeminate.

Wow, let's count - asshole, ignorance+idiocy, effeminate. Good job 
insulting, and also showing off your homophobia. I guess now my question 
above is answered.

>
>>   Frank Shute frank at woodcruft.co.uk
>>   Wed Aug 24 21:20:15 UTC 2016
>>
>>> The reason I asked the previous question to this list is:
>>>
>>> 1. It is difficult to believe a non-functional graphics driver
>>> (openchrome) could get into the Xorg packaging system without
>>> proper functioning being tested and verified.
>>>
>>> 2. It would appear to be an openchrome problem, but I thought
>>> maybe it could be due to the GCC->Clang transition.
>>
>> You've made a whole pile of assumptions there that may or may not be true.
>>
>> Steve politely pitched it to you that you were using an archaic application on
>> an archaic version of an OS for an architecture that not a lot of people use
>> these days and you may be advised to upgrade your system and/or application
>> software.
>>
>> I don't know why but I didn't receive a copy of your reply to him thanking him
>> for his observations and spending his time on the matter.
>>
>>> Anyway, this has totally 'screwed' my business, since all
>>> machines use this driver, and none have a windowing system now.
>>
>> I'm sure you'll be happy to point out what contributions you or your business
>> have made to FreeBSD.
>>
>> Feel free to post URLs of commits you have made to src, ports or docs. Any
>> monetary contributions you have made to the Foundation or to port maintainers
>> who maintain the ports your business depends on.
>>
>> Even answers to other user's questions on this list that you have made would
>> be a start....
>>
>> Until then: best of luck with your business!
>>
>> Toodle pip!
>> --
>> Frank
>> https://woodcruft.co.uk/

-- 
Jim Ohlstein

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    I have a machine, whose cpu is an AMD Phenom II, on which I
recently installed 10.3.  Spectifically:

FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE #0 r297264: Fri Mar 25 03:51:29 UTC 2016
root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

    (Question: I thought the installation process was supposed to
detect the architecture and automatically install the correct
kernel+world.  Am I mistaken?)
    I want to convert this to:

FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE #0 r297264: Fri Mar 25 03:51:29 UTC 2016
root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

    in the short term to access all 8 gb of memory, and in the long
term to jump to -head.
    I have not changed /usr/src.
    There are no "make.conf" or "src.conf".
    Running "make buildworld" produces this:

cd /usr/src; PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -m
/usr/src/share/mk -f Makefile.inc1 TARGET=i386 TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld

    and "make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC" this:

--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> stage 1: configuring the kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf; 
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin 
config  -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  -I '/usr/src/sys/i386/conf'
'/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC'
Kernel build directory is /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Don't forget to do ``make cleandepend && make depend''

--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
--------------------------------------------------------------
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj 
MACHINE_ARCH=i386  MACHINE=i386  CPUTYPE=
GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin 
GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font 
GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac 
_SHLIBDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp  _LDSCRIPTROOT=  VERSION="FreeBSD
10.3-RELEASE i386 1003000"  INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" 
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
CC="cc " CXX="c++ "  CPP="cpp "  AS="as" AR="ar" LD="ld" NM=nm 
OBJDUMP=objdump OBJCOPY="objcopy"  RANLIB=ranlib STRINGS=
COMPILER_TYPE=clang make  -m /usr/src/share/mk  KERNEL=kernel cleandir
rm -f *.o *.so *.So *.ko *.s eddep errs  kernel.debug kernel
kernel.symbols  linterrs tags vers.c  vnode_if.c vnode_if.h
vnode_if_newproto.h vnode_if_typedef.h  agp_if.c ata_if.c eisa_if.c
fb_if.c miibus_if.c mmcbr_if.c mmcbus_if.c mvs_if.c card_if.c power_if.c
pci_if.c pcib_if.c ppbus_if.c sdhci_if.c hdac_if.c ac97_if.c
channel_if.c feeder_if.c mixer_if.c mpu_if.c mpufoi_if.c synth_if.c
uart_if.c usb_if.c g_part_if.c g_raid_md_if.c g_raid_tr_if.c isa_if.c
bus_if.c clock_if.c cpufreq_if.c device_if.c linker_if.c serdev_if.c
xenbus_if.c xenbusb_if.c acpi_if.c acpi_wmi_if.c virtio_bus_if.c
virtio_if.c agp_if.h ata_if.h eisa_if.h fb_if.h miibus_if.h mmcbr_if.h
mmcbus_if.h mvs_if.h card_if.h power_if.h pci_if.h pcib_if.h ppbus_if.h
sdhci_if.h hdac_if.h ac97_if.h channel_if.h feeder_if.h mixer_if.h
mpu_if.h mpufoi_if.h synth_if.h uart_if.h usb_if.h g_part_if.h
g_raid_md_if.h g_raid_tr_if.h isa_if.h bus_if.h clock_if.h cpufreq_if.h
device_if.h linker_if.h serdev_if.h xenbus_if.h xenbusb_if.h acpi_if.h
acpi_wmi_if.h virtio_bus_if.h virtio_if.h  acpi_quirks.h feeder_eq_gen.h
feeder_rate_gen.h snd_fxdiv_gen.h  miidevs.h pccarddevs.h teken_state.h
usbdevs.h usbdevs_data.h  acpi_wakecode.o acpi_wakecode.bin
acpi_wakecode.h  acpi_wakedata.h

    which says it's compiling for i386.
    How do I compel it to use src/sys/amd64 instead of
src/sys/i386?


            Respectfully,


                    Robert Huff


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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016, Robert Huff wrote:

>    I have a machine, whose cpu is an AMD Phenom II, on which I
> recently installed 10.3.  Spectifically:
>
> FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE #0 r297264: Fri Mar 25 03:51:29 UTC 2016
> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
>
>    (Question: I thought the installation process was supposed to
> detect the architecture and automatically install the correct
> kernel+world.  Am I mistaken?)

Yes, that's a mistake.  It's why we have separate i386 and amd64 install 
disks.

>    I want to convert this to:
>
> FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE #0 r297264: Fri Mar 25 03:51:29 UTC 2016
> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>
>    in the short term to access all 8 gb of memory, and in the long
> term to jump to -head.
>    I have not changed /usr/src.
>    There are no "make.conf" or "src.conf".
>    Running "make buildworld" produces this:
>
> cd /usr/src; PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -m
> /usr/src/share/mk -f Makefile.inc1 TARGET=i386 TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld

Right, a buildworld is going to build for the same architecture that 
is installed.  If you have not done much customization yet, the easiest 
and most reliable way to go to amd64 is to just back up data, download 
and install the amd64 version, and restore.  It's possible there is now 
a simple way to convert, but there wasn't the last time I did this, and 
I ended up copying amd64 binaries from another system to get the i386 
one functional enough to build an amd64 kernel and world.

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from Warren Block:

> Right, a buildworld is going to build for the same architecture that is
> installed.  If you have not done much customization yet, the easiest and most
> reliable way to go to amd64 is to just back up data, download and install the
> amd64 version, and restore.  It's possible there is now a simple way to
> convert, but there wasn't the last time I did this, and I ended up copying
> amd64 binaries from another system to get the i386 one functional enough to
> build an amd64 kernel and world.

You mean you can't build amd64 kernel and world from an i386 installation?  I've done that in both FreeBSD and NetBSD.

But I never tried to install amd64 kernel and world over an i386 installation (or vice versa); I installed to a different partition.

Tom


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On 25/08/2016 01:24, Kevin P. Neal wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 05:48:27PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>> ieee(3) and many older sources mention p854 as
>> an extension to standard 754. I cannot find
>> any trace of p854 past 1985. Has it been obsoleted
>> by the development of 754?
> 
> Wasn't 854 base 10? I have a vague memory that 854 was incorporated into
> the 2008 revision of 754.
> 
> There's probably more if you care to wade through it:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754_revision
> 

>From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_854-1987

The standard was published in 1987, nearly immediately superseded by
IEEE 754-1985 but never terminated (the year of ratification appears
after the dash). IEEE 854 did not specify any formats, whereas IEEE
754-1985 did.

Sounds like 854 was a bit of a false start and/or duplicate effort.

-- 
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>From kpn@gunsight1.neutralgood.org Thu Aug 25 01:49:30 2016
>
>On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 05:48:27PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>> ieee(3) and many older sources mention p854 as
>> an extension to standard 754. I cannot find
>> any trace of p854 past 1985. Has it been obsoleted
>> by the development of 754?
>
>Wasn't 854 base 10? I have a vague memory that 854 was incorporated into
>the 2008 revision of 754.

yes, apparently it has been merged with 754.

Thanks

Anton

>
>There's probably more if you care to wade through it:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754_revision
>
>-- 
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>           On the community of supercomputer fans:
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>  from Steve Gombosi, comp.sys.super, 31 Jul 2000 11:22:43 -0600
>

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2016-08-24 18:54 GMT+02:00 maxnix <maxnix.bsd@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:44:34 +0200
> David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2016-08-23 11:51 GMT+02:00 maxnix <maxnix.bsd@gmail.com>:
>> > According to psm(4) actually this is only supported on Synaptics
>> > touchpads with Extended support disabled.
>> > Check the value of hw.psm.synaptics_support to see if you have it
>> > enabled.
>> >
>>
>> Yep,
>>
>> I've also added hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 also in the
>> /boot/loader.conf. Most of the features work like vertical scrolling.
>> Two finger scroll does not work though.
>>
>>
>
> Wait, hw.psm.synaptics_support must be set to 0 to disable Extended
> support. For the two finger scrolling issue give a look here:
> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/53720/

Ah okay, I've misread this. I thought it was needed. I wonder why
synaptics support must be disabled. I will check within the synaptics
tunable if there is still a way to disable the tap button.

I've also already seen this topic, they say that finger scroll is
enabled by default on their machines, it's weird that on mine two
finger scroll sysctl variable is set to 0.

My touchpad fully support two finger scrolling though.

If I can't get this I'll try the xf86-input-synaptics driver instead.

-- 
Demelier David

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Am 25.08.2016 um 06:00 schrieb Robert Huff:
>     I have a machine, whose cpu is an AMD Phenom II, on which I
> recently installed 10.3.  Spectifically:
>
> FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE #0 r297264: Fri Mar 25 03:51:29 UTC 2016
> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
>
>     (Question: I thought the installation process was supposed to
> detect the architecture and automatically install the correct
> kernel+world.  Am I mistaken?)
>     I want to convert this to:
>
> FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE #0 r297264: Fri Mar 25 03:51:29 UTC 2016
> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>
>     in the short term to access all 8 gb of memory, and in the long
> term to jump to -head.
>     I have not changed /usr/src.
>     There are no "make.conf" or "src.conf".
>     Running "make buildworld" produces this:
>
> cd /usr/src; PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -m
> /usr/src/share/mk -f Makefile.inc1 TARGET=i386 TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld
>

have you searched for "freebsd convert i386 to amd64" on google?
Maybe you want to check the first result:
https://wiki.freebsd.org/amd64/i386Migration

I used it to convert 5 FreeBSD boxes without problems from i386 to amd64.


Gruß
Matthias

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build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to
produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." --
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Warren Block writes:

> If you have not done much customization yet, the easiest 
> and most reliable way to go to amd64 is to just back up data, download 
> and install the amd64 version, and restore.

This is always my recommendation, and I recommend it more strongly if
you've only just installed the system and discovered you accidentally
installed the wrong version. Installing FreeBSD takes ten
minutes. Learning enough about FreeBSD to reliably convert a system
in-place without making any mistakes is obviously going to take much
longer; I'd be willing to bet that even for an expert, converting a
single system in-place would still take longer than reinstalling. It's
when you have several systems you'd need to reconfigure that in-place
conversion is beneficial.

-- 
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::  brandon.wandersee@gmail.com
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I think you're going to need something that can read/write to the drive, 
at a sector by sector level, well away from any operating system.

Even then, chances are it's a hardware failure, not a surface 
corruption, in which case sadly it's a door stop, or a job for a 
professional hard disk recovery facility, who can repair/replace (for 
example) the head read amplifiers in the drive.

The only software I know of that has any chance of rescuing drives like 
that without taking the covers off (so long as the surface can be read 
in some way) is Spinrite by Steve Gibson (Google it.)  Not free, but 
*Very* good.  It recently pulled an old XP laptop back from the brink, 
when that was stuck in a boot loop, showing unrecoverable hard disk 
errors. (It was dropped while working!)

In reality, in that case it was one sector damaged, the rest of the 
drive was fine.  It "Recovered" as much of the faulty sector (save for 
21 bits that were the problem, and that took an hour+) after that, the 
system booted as normal, the drive's SMART data was not effected, even 
chkdsk was OK..

Be careful with some of the FLOS disk testing and imaging tools, many 
will not accept any read errors from the source drive, dying, halting or 
otherwise not completing the task.  Some will hammer the faulty drive to 
it's final end.  There is nothing wrong in what they do, just that they 
don't actually "do" what many people expect.

Regards.

Dave B.

NO affiliation whatsoever to grc.com, other than a long time owner of a 
copy of Spinrite.


On 25/08/16 13:00, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:
> Subject:
> recoverdisk strategy
> From:
> "Christoph P.U. Kukulies" <kuku@kukulies.org>
> Date:
> 24/08/16 16:46
>
> To:
> "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
>
>
> Presently I'm again in the situation to have to recover a hard disk 
> that has a Windows NTFS on it, refused to
> boot Windows 7 and has a lot of I/O-Errors.
>
> I connected the disk to my FreeBSD system and now I'm trying to create 
> a dump of it using "recoverdisk".
>
> But it gives I/O-errors lots and lots and this quite slowly:
>
>
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 00 ()
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): FLUSHCACHE48. ACB: ea 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 
> 00 00
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 71 (DRDY DF SERV ERR), error: 04 
> (ABRT )
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 71 04 9d 00 32 40 00 00 00 04 00
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): FLUSHCACHE48. ACB: ea 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 
> 00 00
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 71 (DRDY DF SERV ERR), error: 04 
> (ABRT )
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 71 04 9d 00 32 40 00 00 00 04 00
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted
> (ada2:ahcich0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed
>
> Setting
> sysctl kern.cam.ada.retry_count=0
>
> seems to run faster but still it's not gathering any percentage. Still 
> staying at 0.00000 after running some 10 minutes or so.
>
> What else could I do? Skipping disk blocks/cylinders?
>
> The aim is to produces an image of the disk that contains as much as 
> possible sane sectors with the rest filled wth 0,
> so that the dump still keeps a mirror of the disk (with holes in it, 
> of course). Once being done, I'd apply a
>
> program like "testdisk" that can do a deep search and can try to 
> recover the partition information and the file system (hopefully).
>
>
> -- 
>
> Christoph


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Hi,

when I enter a displayless machine I want to start TMux
immediately:

  $ ssh -t otherhost tmux -u

Yet, this bypasses /etc/profile before the TMux server is
started. As soon as TMux opens its first pane, a shell is
opened and /etc/profile comes into respect. But while TMux
is setting up its mode-keys option, it won't detect the
EDITOR=vi in the profile. Therefore I added the EDITOR
environment variable to /etc/login.conf.

default:\
	:setenv=[...],EDITOR=vi:\
        :[...]:

This works as long as I only use the "default" section.
However, when I change the login class in vipw to "german"
the effect disappears.

german|German Users Accounts:\
	:charset=UTF-8:\
	:lang=de_DE.UTF-8:\
	:setenv=LC_COLLATE=C:\
	:tc=default:

The tc directive imports all directives from "default" but
then, "setenv" is overwritten.

I thorougly examined this behaviour by setting further
environment variables and by not calling TMux but a simple
variable dump (see below).

Is there a way to merge the setenv directives?

Is there any better solution to my problem? On a Linux
machine I solved it by calling pam_env in /etc/pam.d/sshd
<http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/315647#316921>,
but I can find no pam_env in FreeBSD.

Thanks in advance.

Bertram


________________________________________________________________
In /etc/login.conf:

default:\
	:setenv=[...],EDITOR=vi,WASHERE_DEFAULT=x:\
        :[...]:

german|German Users Accounts:\
	:charset=UTF-8:\
	:lang=de_DE.UTF-8:\
	:setenv=LC_COLLATE=C,WASHERE_GERMAN=x:\
	:tc=default:

--<showenv.c>---------------------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

int main(int argc, char **argv, char **env)
{
    char **e;

    for (e = env; *e != 0; e++)
        printf( "%s\n", *e);    
    return 0;
}
----------------------------------------------------------------

Shell command:

  $ ssh -t otherhost ./showenv | grep ^WASHERE



-- 
Bertram Scharpf
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$ ssh otherhost cat .login_conf
# $FreeBSD: releng/10.2/share/skel/dot.login_conf 77995 2001-06-10
17:08:53Z ache $
#
# see login.conf(5)
#
me:\
    :setenv=WASHERE=42:
$ ssh -t otherhost env | grep WASHERE
WASHERE=42

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Bertram Scharpf
<lists@bertram-scharpf.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> when I enter a displayless machine I want to start TMux
> immediately:
>
>   $ ssh -t otherhost tmux -u
>
> Yet, this bypasses /etc/profile before the TMux server is
> started. As soon as TMux opens its first pane, a shell is
> opened and /etc/profile comes into respect. But while TMux
> is setting up its mode-keys option, it won't detect the
> EDITOR=vi in the profile. Therefore I added the EDITOR
> environment variable to /etc/login.conf.
>
> default:\
>         :setenv=[...],EDITOR=vi:\
>         :[...]:
>
> This works as long as I only use the "default" section.
> However, when I change the login class in vipw to "german"
> the effect disappears.
>
> german|German Users Accounts:\
>         :charset=UTF-8:\
>         :lang=de_DE.UTF-8:\
>         :setenv=LC_COLLATE=C:\
>         :tc=default:
>
> The tc directive imports all directives from "default" but
> then, "setenv" is overwritten.
>
> I thorougly examined this behaviour by setting further
> environment variables and by not calling TMux but a simple
> variable dump (see below).
>
> Is there a way to merge the setenv directives?
>
> Is there any better solution to my problem? On a Linux
> machine I solved it by calling pam_env in /etc/pam.d/sshd
> <http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/315647#316921>,
> but I can find no pam_env in FreeBSD.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bertram
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> In /etc/login.conf:
>
> default:\
>         :setenv=[...],EDITOR=vi,WASHERE_DEFAULT=x:\
>         :[...]:
>
> german|German Users Accounts:\
>         :charset=UTF-8:\
>         :lang=de_DE.UTF-8:\
>         :setenv=LC_COLLATE=C,WASHERE_GERMAN=x:\
>         :tc=default:
>
> --<showenv.c>---------------------------------------------------
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <stdlib.h>
>
> int main(int argc, char **argv, char **env)
> {
>     char **e;
>
>     for (e = env; *e != 0; e++)
>         printf( "%s\n", *e);
>     return 0;
> }
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Shell command:
>
>   $ ssh -t otherhost ./showenv | grep ^WASHERE
>
>
>
> --
> Bertram Scharpf
> Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany
> http://www.bertram-scharpf.de
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With 10.3R out & here until well into 2018, it would be sweet to have 
the wiki pages on ZFS-root installs updated for 10.3 :-). See:

https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE

& similar for RAIDZ1 & RAIDZ2. $0.02, no more, no less .... TIA & have a 
good one.

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  CeDeROM wrote:

> Hello,
>=20
> Are there any plans to make stable port/package of OpenStack on FreeBSD? =
:-)
>=20
> I have seen this nice article that first steps are already made:
> http://empt1e.blogspot.com/2015/06/openstack-on-freebsdxen-proof-of-conce=
pt.html
>=20
> It would be really nice to build this kind of cloud infrastructure on
> top of FreeBSD :-)
>=20
> Best regards :-)
> Tomek

Hi Tomek,

This blog post was written by me and I had an intention to add FreeBSD
support into OpenStack back then.

At this point I've sort of dropped the ball on this idea (for now at
least). Technically, it's not very complicated task to get OpenStack
working with libvirt/Xen/FreeBSD backend (a little more complicated in
libvirt/bhyve case, but mainly because bhyve misses some features needed
by OpenStack).

Practically, OpenStack development process is quite fast and new
features submission is complex (IMHO).

1. It requires blueprint/spec submission for new features. This usually
   spawns a discussion and it's necessary to re-iterate on the spec
   several times before it gets accepted.

   Additionally, FreeBSD support would require a number of specs for
   several components (nova, neutron and maybe cinder to start with),
   and additionally specs for refactoring of the current code for
   portability (and that needs to go in line with other work that's
   happening in those components).

2. There should be a 3rd party CI for FreeBSD that requires time to
   setup and maintain and hardware to run on.

So I decided that's not something that I have enough free time to work
on.

Additional reading:
 * https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Spec_.2B_Blueprints_lifecycle
 * http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/third_party.html

Roman Bogorodskiy

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> On 17 August 2016, at 18:22, Doug Hardie <doug@sermon-archive.info> =
wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On 17 August 2016, at 18:17, Doug Hardie <doug@sermon-archive.info> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On 17 August 2016, at 16:58, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:32:20 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote:
>>>>>> Added a new NIC (rl0).  Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf.=20=

>>>>>> Set rl0 for DHCP.  Same result, but some additional messages:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Starting Network: mske0
>>>>>> Starting Network: rl0
>>>>>> rl0: link state changed to up
>>>>>> Starting Network: lo0
>>>>>> Starting dhclient
>>>>>> rl0: not found
>>>>>> exiting
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I am out of ideas here.  How can I figure out what is going on =
and correct it?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf.
>>>>> Can you show all the relevant lines?
>>>>=20
>>>> I switched to a minimal rc.conf:
>>>>=20
>>>> fsck_y_enable=3D"YES"
>>>> background_fsck=3D"NO"
>>>> dumpdev=3D"NO"
>>>> hostname=3D"steve"
>>>> ifconfig_rl0=3D"DHCP"
>>>> sshd_enable=3D"YES"
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Same results.
>>>=20
>>> No errors in this file. However it's interesting that (if I remember
>>> the thread so far) you reported the disappearing of a network =
interface
>>> with two different devices... however, there's something strange =
about
>>> the message: when I try to run dhclient for a network interface that
>>> does not exist on my system, I get this:
>>>=20
>>> 	# dhclient fxp0
>>> 	ifconfig: interface fxp0 does not exist
>>> 	fxp0: not found
>>> 	exiting.
>>>=20
>>> Note the ifconfig-related line. And if you run "ifconfig -a" and the
>>> interface _is_ listed, this makes the whole thing even more =
strange...
>>=20
>> I created the following code:
>>=20
>> #include <stdio.h>
>> #include <sys/types.h>
>> #include <sys/socket.h>
>> #include <ifaddrs.h>
>>=20
>> int main (int argc, char *argv[])
>> {
>>       int rc;
>>       struct ifaddrs *ifi;
>>=20
>>       rc =3D getifaddrs (&ifi);
>>       printf ("rc =3D %d\n", rc);
>> }
>>=20
>>=20
>> Compiled it with debugging and ran it.  after the getifaddrs call (it =
returned 0), there were 3 entries in the table.  All 3 have the name of =
"".=20
>>=20
>> I commented out the networking calls in rc.conf, rebooted the machine =
and then ran the code.  Same result.  I rebooted in single user mode and =
ran the code and the same results.  The boot process is not setting the =
interface names properly.  Whats even more fascinating about this is I =
have upgraded other machines (although they are newer) from 9.3 to =
11.0-RC1 and they worked just fine.
>=20
> I just noticed, all the systems that upgraded and worked properly are =
amd64.  This one is i386.

I just tried mfsBSD 10.0 on a memstick and the network cards both are =
enabled and at least rl0 works.  I didn't test mske0.  So this must be =
an issue with RC1.  I would like to try RC2 to see if thats fixed.  =
However, I don't see a way to upgrade without a working network.  This =
is a backup machine that backs up numerous others so the data on there =
is huge and is not easily replaced.  I don't have another drive large =
enough to hold it.  mfsBSD is not available yet for 11, but I am not =
sure that would be helpful.  bsdinstall will wipe out the drive.  So, =
any ideas how to do the upgrade?  I am out of ideas at the moment.




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Ah so its lots of work ahead and seems like a big project.. with no
manpower or funding as Samuel mentioned it will not happen fast.

I will try to work with FreeBSD inside OpenStack and see how it works first..

Thank you for all hints and great work!! :-)
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On 08/26/2016 01:52 PM, Doug Hardie wrote:
> ... I don't see a way to upgrade without a working network.  This is a backup machine that backs up numerous others so the data on there is huge and is not easily replaced.  I don't have another drive large enough to hold it. ...  bsdinstall will wipe out the drive.  So, any ideas how to do the upgrade?  I am out of ideas at the moment.

I came in late on this thread.  It sounds like your backup machine has
one HDD with OS, applications, and data?


How about unplug your HDD, get a 16 GB SSD, do a fresh install of
whatever OS you want, and then reconnect the HDD as a data drive?


David


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Hi all,

I've recently installed a new system due to disk- and other problems. Now I
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On 08/23/16 21:45, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote:
> 
> Steve O'Hara-Smith writes:
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:05:41 +0200
>> Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:24:30 +0200
>>>> CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Playstation4 runs on FreeBSD :-)
>>>>
>>>>         I'll bet you can't get a FreeBSD PC to play any PS4 games
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Uhm..that's interesting.
>>> I've got a few months to decide which game machine to get for my son,
>>> and I was wondering to build one by myself. Knowing that PS4 is based
>>> on FreeBSD is a good news, even if I suspect it's true that porting
>>> some games to FreeBSD pure machine will not be so easy...
>>
>> 	Getting at the FreeBSD inside the PS4 isn't easy either, I'm not
>> even sure it's possible.
> 
> It's irrelevant. FreeBSD doesn't run the games. It runs the proprietary
> encoding and DRM software and speaks to the custom-made hardware that in
> turn run the games. Ask yourself how building a custom PC with FreeBSD
> on it would run Sony the millions of dollars it spent developing the
> thing.
> 
Looking for an emulator and found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ps4emulator/comments/475fh4/ps4_emulator_sony_playstation_4_emulator/

There are some other projects, most for Windows.

I don't know how good this emulator is, sorry.

Greetings.

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On 08/19/16 11:23, Magnus Ahriman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Today I had a user who decided to open a very large text file in pico. The
> result was a complete denial of service of the system and everything
> stalled/was working veeeeery slowly.
> Even after the user had killed the process it took quite some while for the
> system to recover and I seemed to notice improvements of certain services
> after having restarted them.
> 
> What are my options to limit resource usage for users? I tried renicing the
> user's process but to no help and the problem was most certainly with disk
> I/O. I don't want a normal user being able to lock up my entire system just
> by viewing text files. So any ideas?
> 
> Best regards,
> Magnus
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Have you look at this?
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/security-resourcelimits.html

Not testet, sorry.

Greetings

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Hello,

On 08/27/2016 06:50 AM, Magnus Ahriman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've recently installed a new system due to disk- and other problems. Now I
> want to mount the old system's zfs root on my new system (under a different
> path/not as actual root).
>
> What are the actual steps/commands to mount the old zfsroot under a
> mountpoint in my new system?

# zpool import -o altroot=/mnt oldzpool

> The root partition was encrypted, will I be asked to enter password upon
> mounting it?

I would think so.

-- 
Jim Ohlstein

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On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 3:29 PM lokadamus@gmx.de <lokadamus@gmx.de> wrote:

> u look at this?
> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/security-resourcelimits.html
>
> Not testet, sorry.
>

Thanks, I ended up putting in resource limitations for the user class which
mitigated the problem temporarily. Eventually I wound up with a bad disk
that might have been the root cause of my problems, so the problems are
resolved at the moment.

Thanks to all for suggestions and input.

Best regards,
Magnus Ahriman

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Thanks! I managed to RTFM and google the question, but the disk seems
broken as it only shows bootpool as available for import.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 3:44 PM Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On 08/27/2016 06:50 AM, Magnus Ahriman wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've recently installed a new system due to disk- and other problems.
> Now I
> > want to mount the old system's zfs root on my new system (under a
> different
> > path/not as actual root).
> >
> > What are the actual steps/commands to mount the old zfsroot under a
> > mountpoint in my new system?
>
> # zpool import -o altroot=/mnt oldzpool
>
> > The root partition was encrypted, will I be asked to enter password upon
> > mounting it?
>
> I would think so.
>
> --
> Jim Ohlstein
>

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I use pkg almost exclusively to maintain this box, except for the 
linux-c6-flashplugin, which (used to) require a ports build & install. I 
did a full pkg upgrade this A.M., followed by a ports build of the newer 
flash-plugin. However, the flash-plugin apparently just installed a pkg, 
see below, whereas in the past it would download & compile up the port. 
Has something changed W.R.T. the flash-plugin ? This is *NOT* a problem, 
just curious. TIA & have a good one.


[root@kabini1, /etc, 8:48:02am] 351 % portmaster linux-c6-flashplugin

===>>> Currently installed version: linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577
===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11

===>>> Gathering distinfo list for installed ports

===>>> Launching 'make checksum' for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 in 
background
===>>> Gathering dependency list for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 from ports
===>>> Initial dependency check complete for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11


===>>> Starting build for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 <<<===

===>>> All dependencies are up to date

===>  Cleaning for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 <<<===
/!\ WARNING /!\
You have security/openssl installed but do not have 
DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl set in your make.conf

===>  Found saved configuration for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.425
===>   linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 depends on file: 
/usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
=> install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in 
/usr/ports/distfiles//flashplugin/11.2r202.632.
=> Attempting to fetch 
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.632/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz

/!\ WARNING /!\
You have security/openssl installed but do not have 
DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl set in your make.conf

===>  Found saved configuration for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.425
===>   linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 depends on file: 
/usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
===> Fetching all distfiles required by 
linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 for building
===>  Extracting for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for 
flashplugin/11.2r202.632/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz.
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for 
flashplugin/11.2r202.632/linux-f10-flashsupport-9.0.1.i386.tar.gz.
===>  Patching for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
===>   linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 depends on executable: 
update-desktop-database - found
===>  Configuring for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
===>  Staging for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
===>   Generating temporary packing list
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/linux-c6-flashplugin
install   -m 444 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/libflashplayer.so 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/linux-c6-flashplugin
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/lib
install   -m 444 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/libflashsupport.so 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/lib
install   -m 555 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/usr/bin/flash-player-properties 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/bin
install  -m 0644 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/usr/share/applications/flash-player-properties.desktop 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/share/applications
(cd 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/usr/share/icons 
&& /bin/sh -c '(/usr/bin/find -d $0 $2 | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl $1 
 >/dev/null  2>&1) &&  /usr/bin/find -d $0 $2 -type d -exec chmod 755 
$1/{} \; &&  /usr/bin/find -d $0 $2 -type f -exec chmod 444 $1/{} \;' -- 
hicolor 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons)
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-firefox
/bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-firefox/
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera
/bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera/
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera-devel
/bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera-devel/
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-seamonkey
/bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
/usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-seamonkey/
====> Compressing man pages (compress-man)

===>>> Creating a backup package for old version 
linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577
Creating package for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
Deinstallation has been requested for the following 1 packages (of 0 
packages in the universe):

Installed packages to be REMOVED:
         linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577

Number of packages to be removed: 1

The operation will free 17 MiB.
[1/1] Deinstalling linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577...
[1/1] Deleting files for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577: 100%

===>  Installing for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
===>   Registering installation for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
Installing linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1...
If this is your first time installing flash each user must run:

         nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

If you are updating flash each user must run:

         nspluginwrapper -v -a -u

===> SECURITY REPORT:
       This port has installed the following files which may act as network
       servers and may therefore pose a remote security risk to the system.
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/linux-c6-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so

       If there are vulnerabilities in these programs there may be a 
security
       risk to the system. FreeBSD makes no guarantee about the security of
       ports included in the Ports Collection. Please type 'make deinstall'
       to deinstall the port if this is a concern.

       For more information, and contact details about the security
       status of this software, see the following webpage:
http://www.adobe.com/

===>>> pkg-message for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
Always:
If this is your first time installing flash each user must run:

         nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

If you are updating flash each user must run:

         nspluginwrapper -v -a -u

===>>> Done displaying pkg-message files

===>>> Upgrade of linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577 to 
linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 complete

  whew !!!! that took (67.476 cpu + 14.487 sys) sec., 1:03.02 elapsed 
time tot, 130.0% CPU efficiency
         (899 text, 2315 data, 119708 max) KB, (1394+889) io, 74 pfs + 0 
swaps
[root@kabini1, /etc, 8:49:55am] 352 %

-- 

	William A. Mahaffey III

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------

	"The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
	 ever devised by man."
                            -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.


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On Friday, 26. Aug 2016, 08:33:48 -0400, Roger Pate wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Bertram Scharpf
> <lists@bertram-scharpf.de> wrote:
> > /etc/login.conf
> >
> > default:\
> >         :setenv=[...],EDITOR=vi:\
> >         :[...]:
> >
> > german|German Users Accounts:\
> >         :charset=UTF-8:\
> >         :lang=de_DE.UTF-8:\
> >         :setenv=LC_COLLATE=C:\
> >         :tc=default:
> >
> > The tc directive imports all directives from "default" but
> > then, "setenv" is overwritten.
> >
> $ ssh otherhost cat .login_conf
> # $FreeBSD: releng/10.2/share/skel/dot.login_conf 77995 2001-06-10
> 17:08:53Z ache $
> #
> # see login.conf(5)
> #
> me:\
>     :setenv=WASHERE=42:
> $ ssh -t otherhost env | grep WASHERE
> WASHERE=42

That works. It doesn't overwrite the setenv from /etc. Thank
you!

Yet, I decided to remove the setenv from "german" and to
put the LC_COLLATE=C into "default".

Another possible solution could have been setting the
variable in /etc/rc.conf:

  sshd_env="WASHERE_RCCONF=x"

Bertram


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Magnus Ahriman writes:

>>> The root partition was encrypted, will I be asked to enter password upon
>>> mounting it?
>>
>> I would think so.
>>

> Thanks! I managed to RTFM and google the question, but the disk seems
> broken as it only shows bootpool as available for import.

zpool(8) doesn't handle encryption, geli(8) does. The password prompt
you see during boot is not triggered by the mounting of the pool: your
boot process is configured (via /boot/loader.conf) to attempt to decrypt
the partition(s) with geli(8) during boot. The mounting of the ZFS pool
is handled by ZFS later in the boot process, after the partition is
decrypted.

You need to unlock the drive manually. The Handbook has the relevant
info on that. If you used the automatic root-on-ZFS option in the
FreeBSD installer then unlocking the unlocking of root partition during
boot was configured for you automatically. You'll need to import/mount
"bootpool," take a look at the options set in /boot/loader.conf on that
pool, and then feed them to `geli attach`to unlock the partition. Then
you can mount the pool using the command Jim gave you.

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On 08/27/2016 05:09 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>
> I use pkg almost exclusively to maintain this box, except for the 
> linux-c6-flashplugin, which (used to) require a ports build & install. 
> I did a full pkg upgrade this A.M., followed by a ports build of the 
> newer flash-plugin. However, the flash-plugin apparently just 
> installed a pkg, see below, whereas in the past it would download & 
> compile up the port. Has something changed W.R.T. the flash-plugin ? 
> This is *NOT* a problem, just curious. TIA & have a good one.
>
>
> [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:48:02am] 351 % portmaster linux-c6-flashplugin
>
> ===>>> Currently installed version: linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577
> ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11
>
> ===>>> Gathering distinfo list for installed ports
>
> ===>>> Launching 'make checksum' for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 in 
> background
> ===>>> Gathering dependency list for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 from 
> ports
> ===>>> Initial dependency check complete for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11
>
>
> ===>>> Starting build for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 <<<===
>
> ===>>> All dependencies are up to date
>
> ===>  Cleaning for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 <<<===
> /!\ WARNING /!\
> You have security/openssl installed but do not have 
> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl set in your make.conf
>
> ===>  Found saved configuration for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.425
> ===>   linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 depends on file: 
> /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
> => install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in 
> /usr/ports/distfiles//flashplugin/11.2r202.632.
> => Attempting to fetch 
> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.632/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
> install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
>
> /!\ WARNING /!\
> You have security/openssl installed but do not have 
> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl set in your make.conf
>
> ===>  Found saved configuration for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.425
> ===>   linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 depends on file: 
> /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
> ===> Fetching all distfiles required by 
> linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 for building
> ===>  Extracting for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> => SHA256 Checksum OK for 
> flashplugin/11.2r202.632/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz.
> => SHA256 Checksum OK for 
> flashplugin/11.2r202.632/linux-f10-flashsupport-9.0.1.i386.tar.gz.
> ===>  Patching for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> ===>   linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 depends on executable: 
> update-desktop-database - found
> ===>  Configuring for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> ===>  Staging for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> /bin/mkdir -p 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/linux-c6-flashplugin
> install   -m 444 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/libflashplayer.so 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/linux-c6-flashplugin 
>
> /bin/mkdir -p 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/lib
> install   -m 444 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/libflashsupport.so 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/lib
> install   -m 555 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/usr/bin/flash-player-properties 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/bin
> install  -m 0644 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/usr/share/applications/flash-player-properties.desktop 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/share/applications 
>
> (cd 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1/usr/share/icons 
> && /bin/sh -c '(/usr/bin/find -d $0 $2 | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl $1 
> >/dev/null  2>&1) &&  /usr/bin/find -d $0 $2 -type d -exec chmod 755 
> $1/{} \; &&  /usr/bin/find -d $0 $2 -type f -exec chmod 444 $1/{} \;' 
> -- hicolor 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons)
> /bin/mkdir -p 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-firefox
> /bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-firefox/
> /bin/mkdir -p 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera
> /bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera/
> /bin/mkdir -p 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera-devel
> /bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-opera-devel/
> /bin/mkdir -p 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-seamonkey
> /bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins//libflashplayer.so 
> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/work/stage/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/symlinks/linux-seamonkey/
> ====> Compressing man pages (compress-man)
>
> ===>>> Creating a backup package for old version 
> linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577
> Creating package for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577
> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
> Deinstallation has been requested for the following 1 packages (of 0 
> packages in the universe):
>
> Installed packages to be REMOVED:
>         linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577
>
> Number of packages to be removed: 1
>
> The operation will free 17 MiB.
> [1/1] Deinstalling linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577...
> [1/1] Deleting files for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577: 100%
>
> ===>  Installing for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> ===>   Registering installation for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> Installing linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1...
> If this is your first time installing flash each user must run:
>
>         nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
>
> If you are updating flash each user must run:
>
>         nspluginwrapper -v -a -u
>
> ===> SECURITY REPORT:
>       This port has installed the following files which may act as 
> network
>       servers and may therefore pose a remote security risk to the 
> system.
> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/linux-c6-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
>
>       If there are vulnerabilities in these programs there may be a 
> security
>       risk to the system. FreeBSD makes no guarantee about the 
> security of
>       ports included in the Ports Collection. Please type 'make 
> deinstall'
>       to deinstall the port if this is a concern.
>
>       For more information, and contact details about the security
>       status of this software, see the following webpage:
> http://www.adobe.com/
>
> ===>>> pkg-message for linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1
> Always:
> If this is your first time installing flash each user must run:
>
>         nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
>
> If you are updating flash each user must run:
>
>         nspluginwrapper -v -a -u
>
> ===>>> Done displaying pkg-message files
>
> ===>>> Upgrade of linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.577 to 
> linux-c6-flashplugin-11.2r202.632_1 complete
>
>  whew !!!! that took (67.476 cpu + 14.487 sys) sec., 1:03.02 elapsed 
> time tot, 130.0% CPU efficiency
>         (899 text, 2315 data, 119708 max) KB, (1394+889) io, 74 pfs + 
> 0 swaps
> [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:49:55am] 352 %
>
First, Portmaster was able to download and install the old package 
format ("pkg_add"), and it did so when -P or -PP arguments were 
supplied. This no longer works with the new (pkgng) package format, so 
it was the port that it installed.

Second, Flashplugin only comes in the binary form which the port 
downloads; it doesn't compile. If you had to compile earlier, it must be 
nspluginwrapper and/or some other dependencies that got compiled, not 
Flashplugin itself. If those dependencies were now already the newest 
version, nothing had to be compiled, and only new Flashplugin binaries 
were downloaded and installed, hence it took so little time.

-Alnis

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lokadamus@gmx.de writes:

> I don't know how good this emulator is, sorry.

There's nothing legitimate about this. First, the emulator is
"open-source," but there's no link to the source code and there's a
barrier to download. Second, the site features no support
information. Third, the site lists Electronic Arts, Sega, Activision,
and Nvidia as "partners." There's no reason to believe a group of
nobodies would get the imprimatur of some of the biggest game publishers
in the world, and the PS4 uses AMD hardware. Finally, the demo video
linked to in that Reddit thread was removed from YouTube "violating
YouTube's policy on spam, deceptive practices, and scams."

-- 
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::  brandon.wandersee@gmail.com
::  --------------------------------------------------
::  'The best design is as little design as possible.'
::  --- Dieter Rams ----------------------------------

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> On 26 August 2016, at 21:16, David Christensen =
<dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
>=20
> On 08/26/2016 01:52 PM, Doug Hardie wrote:
>> ... I don't see a way to upgrade without a working network.  This is =
a backup machine that backs up numerous others so the data on there is =
huge and is not easily replaced.  I don't have another drive large =
enough to hold it. ...  bsdinstall will wipe out the drive.  So, any =
ideas how to do the upgrade?  I am out of ideas at the moment.
>=20
> I came in late on this thread.  It sounds like your backup machine has
> one HDD with OS, applications, and data?
>=20
>=20
> How about unplug your HDD, get a 16 GB SSD, do a fresh install of
> whatever OS you want, and then reconnect the HDD as a data drive?

That would definitely work.  However, I am not interested in dumping =
money into this as its not my machine.  I did some reading on =
freebsd-update and there is a rollback option.  I tried it.  It works.  =
I got back to a working 9.1 system that has working NICs.  I then did an =
upgrade to 9.3 which continued to work.  Then I did an upgrade to =
11.0-RC2.  Once again, no network interfaces.  There is something amiss =
with the i386 networking.  I am going to rollback again so that I can =
try the next release unless someone has some ideas on how to debug this =
situation.


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On 08/27/2016 01:41 PM, Doug Hardie wrote:
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>> On 26 August 2016, at 21:16, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
>>
>> How about unplug your HDD, get a 16 GB SSD, do a fresh install of
>> whatever OS you want, and then reconnect the HDD as a data drive?
> 
> That would definitely work.  However, I am not interested in dumping money into this as its not my machine.  I did some reading on freebsd-update and there is a rollback option.  I tried it.  It works.  I got back to a working 9.1 system that has working NICs.  I then did an upgrade to 9.3 which continued to work.  Then I did an upgrade to 11.0-RC2.  Once again, no network interfaces.  There is something amiss with the i386 networking.  I am going to rollback again so that I can try the next release unless someone has some ideas on how to debug this situation.

1.  Time is money.  If one rollback, two upgrades, and troubleshooting
as yet to be determined costs less than $20, your labor rate is too low.

2.  Having everything on one drive is going to complicate taking an
image of the OS, applications, and configuration settings for disaster
recovery purposes and complicate replicating the data for redundancy
purposes.


David