From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Jun 28 08:50:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4F5B85FD9 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E90AE2138 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id v199so129883426wmv.0 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 01:50:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FB2O19/pddn8qVcq6iZGP97L2B9yfGwMm7wKLJ7pllk=; b=uIAQdVV36MiB9jxdVf2KxYkywvYymSK9mHyI7MOZPe1pqQEUFLPSyMl5w1Amaypu9P g7godiIhZ1bUUDCStd/7ccU9rQfzTpEgk9Wu/i1mscSYZAIzuJHK7Y68X6qUL+X3d3m0 wDHcP2FtSGSLkMh9y4UF9dxWo1jqFmKa51C3zHQnFNXhX6h7c16WaDQ2w0k9LOfC8Nrh agT++mKWwH03mYLCS8KB4hRHJaRXkroWQ2o/1wgJRRUXTLe+kK9CbTColxetmLtFkEjX 0VSQTc9tRrjWyXZCbts/UByftfEDUCMmA8+vt+1L03uNWT5WiTg5KGp8ffRlRGk7mOIK Ycgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FB2O19/pddn8qVcq6iZGP97L2B9yfGwMm7wKLJ7pllk=; b=gANApxq4cCBlVvvvYidaU5JWVFG8/z+7LYwsPA5aI/fkWWHWIDOJpNKtjyFCZqbD/R H71Y0DbWSYgoc2KQYG9I+wSw0ROsuu5ulM9oth01NzKMaZ61p50LuFtyxXUEwga5kZ/R MDrCLf11/DaEHdA2C/gW2NWGvuKkljoiLXutfrekpm8bkTNtffcprug5aFXgypaa05kg GnH8KvtJkpo8Y1OeycWuYzMjniphVKQ3WZvOHEfZzgY9q+iLTpQh2jezqqL0VXAr4WyX FHK3umMdGtpm7cvxfBMWyTALOExud9ohHVbMX8eQozJymBJzpYUy5ERQZkL5VcvI5KAq jJsA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIDFrTVbbmgpkmTdviaitu7ZsrfX33PmxDTJ8r5paw5UaKe8fKqMabwz90m192iGOAio2Q9rlUQEkUT3w== X-Received: by 10.194.67.101 with SMTP id m5mr1987738wjt.129.1467103826506; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 01:50:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.116.193 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 01:50:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Woods Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:50:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Meta-port for Goodies To: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:50:28 -0000 Hi everyone, I have submitted a diff to add a meta-port for XFCE Goodies for review here: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D6981 The basic goal of this port is to prevent people installing Xfce and then experiencing the following: - Discover they are missing some functionality - Google / Freshport search for the associated port - Install the port - A few days later, discover more missing functionality, etc I find on XFCE, there are a number of ports that need to be install before you get everything you want. However, given that many of them are panel plugins or application, they don't bog down the system unless you actually add them to the panel or run them. I also find it is hard to discover what other functionality / plugins might be available that I don't even realise I am missing. This is especially true on FreeBSD because the plugins are in different categories in the ports tree, meaning that just because I find the x11/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin doesn't mean I am aware that the x11-clocks/xfce4-datetime-plugin exists. The solution on a number of Linux distros is to provide a xfce-goodies meta-port which installs the main applications, panel plugins, thunar plugins and artwork that can be found here: http://goodies.xfce.org/ In my proposal, I have also included a few additional ports which are not technically part of the Goodies project, but are highly recommended for use on an Xfce desktop, and may be hard to discover otherwise. For example, until I created this meta-port, I didn't even realise the sysutils/xfce4-bsdcpufreq-plugin port existed. If you get a chance, please have a look at the review and provide comments. 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I am not sure how officially this is managed, so apologies if this sounds over the top. The FreeBSD Xfce wiki page shows a different list of people than the phabricator xfce group. https://wiki.freebsd.org/Xfce https://reviews.freebsd.org/tag/xfce/ This means that when I tag a phabricator review with the xfce group, I may get an approval from someone who is not lists on the wiki page. I was expecting that the two lists should be the same, or at least everyone in the phabricator list would be included in the wiki list. A fix could be as simple as adding sbruno to the wiki list, however it would also be beneficial if more people from the wiki list would be notified of phabricator reviews tagged for the xfce group. Thoughts? Regards, Ben -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Jun 28 20:25:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C88B868BC for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duchateau.olivier@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 167A72118 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duchateau.olivier@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id v199so154393259wmv.0 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:25:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rr3FZ4Yj+/TAYVnnYXBpYEsXSiRBgy+/NJzOq31C/mM=; b=OoksWVJUQEujxUrZpEv32KhH/uH4OTN/x93fqJCAJyfxbCVlnHBGim1/R5O/IMA1/X Cktzg8OSpY7wXvIhXtrUe3nK4aJSlsw35LuTXQzvhRaKfGaUkNTHeO0XzNAMDLkU0IfI wo0YcRDFq1G5AuAFWWtGb+DKNS1XCqkj6AS/KlK4izmjfHI73PKFqGHJYr7zXoznvgkC dUHSN/5TG5Eyd+SYZTu/KknsoP+l6RE1YRy8NDCPHPEFo65+BrMccE2TNaP61ElXW3i7 y3IUhkx+PGciwSfdv38dDzEaVUzWRm8WAvpvwm/dFe3YihbDZFN6/kVPxZsNKkTBR0ro bRkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rr3FZ4Yj+/TAYVnnYXBpYEsXSiRBgy+/NJzOq31C/mM=; b=cfPYDLOMUHcuNsIem/+9yJAHc2C/BbjfN1j+KxgbpTtaHCwNnUoFQhpTeWP6R4rjD5 P1ORiXcXY8GwTtm3FYFyAmGfGO0p2XcVSD8qdBH9lcWSL8r2RkAWlbBZt8KzmUZWpUu6 11pYym9yzt0YGpPCl9P/KdHDaYIFnLXQU4571QIw9Xx8LtpU+xy9B8yDQWkaVWbsSEov uJhQvnQCIWhnRrjVTLTTSFg4f9XmXko8GxGUiaYuYklddItWc4TuSxOB1imgKHfpe2fb rsG3uvvD70+gUicj6kr3Sgv0RBYLLxZnsNGSx0pOULXDLj4AiHu2G0RpBGhpZTX1rVIT l/5g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLgL4uurCHylnZ/6dVBgVrx6bSVqRj9pecNBNO/k/eBimtWm+7vIuHyyrIymcx6Iw== X-Received: by 10.194.104.134 with SMTP id ge6mr5370499wjb.157.1467145545585; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuborg (AMarseille-655-1-669-183.w2-4.abo.wanadoo.fr. [2.4.118.183]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b200sm611395wmb.9.2016.06.28.13.25.44 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Olivier Duchateau Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:22:50 +0000 From: Olivier Duchateau To: Ben Woods Cc: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Members of xfce@ team Message-Id: <20160628222250.91ebce830cfde7a275cdae23@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd9.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:25:47 -0000 On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:55:44 +0200 Ben Woods wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Quick question regarding the members of the xfce@ team. I am not sure how > officially this is managed, so apologies if this sounds over the top. > > The FreeBSD Xfce wiki page shows a different list of people than the > phabricator xfce group. > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Xfce > https://reviews.freebsd.org/tag/xfce/ > > This means that when I tag a phabricator review with the xfce group, I may > get an approval from someone who is not lists on the wiki page. > > I was expecting that the two lists should be the same, or at least everyone > in the phabricator list would be included in the wiki list. > > A fix could be as simple as adding sbruno to the wiki list, however it > would also be beneficial if more people from the wiki list would be > notified of phabricator reviews tagged for the xfce group. > There're also miwi, rene, ehaupt and me (olivierd), plus - danilo (maintainer of sysutils/xfce4-diskperf-plugin) - riggs (sysutils/xfce4-bsdcpufreq-plugin's maintainer) > Thoughts? > > Regards, > Ben > > -- > From: Benjamin Woods > woodsb02@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-xfce > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-xfce-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Olivier Duchateau From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Jun 28 21:34:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EC1B85C4E for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duchateau.olivier@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA0DF250F for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duchateau.olivier@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id a66so46074825wme.0 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:34:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rnsv7H7ywW6MYIXhr1+hQoZ1Veu98hD13MXOzrARH6s=; b=Ra1EzZfSNgoJrykEONOsCRemSM5HtQXD+pbKsWrZmTHLrifkMtkPiyz8JnJcYlM9D8 zBdkXg84kQ5niCWHOGtn043ePz0O//ZT+Sahd/u/vAYzM/kUgkpoveQ/tu8X1uGhGxlG DWWMGQKNn2xTQVFEI/uRC6z6r5XBlD0mdDngXU+v8NntvgHUcpN14nkF4+gHeUddUttr czFNZMXQ7nYO/vCOw3rfpiQJGAEvWaM/M6d+/gdFQZIkK1EFYPWP/ZVqJwAtIb8myUaz VmBUKRHL1yBSW+LfAPT1C3ujbIswRMLn1iIR/oXmBlng719KPIp7utj+FY+2q1nitBjB wImQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rnsv7H7ywW6MYIXhr1+hQoZ1Veu98hD13MXOzrARH6s=; b=JzJJRz8DfsX2X+RyBGS28eMsoeMmJb1724Y2CuUvLa83RlhMICHEQ7hauDj8QIyUU+ lf/qDKvZ4HfoUmAqJ17GSSzz+9ixGKumaKWV5CrdPurJ1XjCAfMdlODzgA/XgP6GElUx ZWkRXN7vCps2kAZOEtn+jz7FjMTKBV/cgoRf8FOvoQvjR65dKQiZ2l4mcZAMgHiJ5feY eiqW3FEA0ATzb2KAvCtkMjo+ZS5woeniJxofv89cMhu6CIHT5PL8j+GJHoOXfaBVUGZZ lG5BbunebA8H0fKIFzxIhjkJ9EXZblMXsG28JcvUhBthzaFtqIQGBllUhEtq0JLZzZz9 UDfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIyD8O9j5CThCYVrb1vmAqvwknhx2VBo8gCozHVKXfPcV+ezGfDrxj1r7LzNxLPXw== X-Received: by 10.194.168.225 with SMTP id zz1mr5632484wjb.114.1467149639383; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuborg (AMarseille-655-1-669-183.w2-4.abo.wanadoo.fr. [2.4.118.183]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a84sm853858wma.0.2016.06.28.14.33.58 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Olivier Duchateau Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:31:11 +0000 From: Olivier Duchateau To: Ben Woods Cc: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Meta-port for Goodies Message-Id: <20160628233111.b37cf7b18f511a288421b1ef@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd9.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:34:01 -0000 On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:50:25 +0200 Ben Woods wrote: > Hi everyone, Hi Ben, > > I have submitted a diff to add a meta-port for XFCE Goodies for review here: > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D6981 > > The basic goal of this port is to prevent people installing Xfce and then > experiencing the following: > > - Discover they are missing some functionality > - Google / Freshport search for the associated port > - Install the port > - A few days later, discover more missing functionality, etc > > I find on XFCE, there are a number of ports that need to be install before > you get everything you want. However, given that many of them are panel > plugins or application, they don't bog down the system unless you actually > add them to the panel or run them. > > I also find it is hard to discover what other functionality / plugins might > be available that I don't even realise I am missing. This is especially > true on FreeBSD because the plugins are in different categories in the > ports tree, meaning that just because I find the > x11/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin doesn't mean I am aware that the > x11-clocks/xfce4-datetime-plugin exists. > > The solution on a number of Linux distros is to provide a xfce-goodies > meta-port which installs the main applications, panel plugins, thunar > plugins and artwork that can be found here: > http://goodies.xfce.org/ > > In my proposal, I have also included a few additional ports which are not > technically part of the Goodies project, but are highly recommended for use > on an Xfce desktop, and may be hard to discover otherwise. For example, > until I created this meta-port, I didn't even realise the > sysutils/xfce4-bsdcpufreq-plugin port existed. > > If you get a chance, please have a look at the review and provide comments. > Not yet review your changes. Personally I'm against (but I'm open with good arguments, or wait the 4.14 release at least). FreeBSD is not a Linux distro (this is recurring requets). In the past, plugins were not well maintained (switch from 4.8 to 4.10 was painful). Moreover in ports tree some plugins and applications are obsolete or "broken": - xfce4-mixer (not anymore maintained by upstream), that's why it's development version in ports tree - xfce4-print (not anymore maintained by upstream) - libxfce4gui (considered obsolete by upstream), replaced by libxfce4menu and libxfce4utils - xfce4-dashboard is broken, it's Clutter's problem (even new stable release, 0.6.0 [1]) - xfce4-wm-themes (not anymore maintained by upstream) - thunar-vfs (not anymore maintained by upstream) - squeeze (no update since 8 years) - xfce4-notification-daemon should be removed (xfce4-notifyd is the only notification daemon supported by upstream) Vala bindings is not in good shape (it's not your fault). xfce4-dev-tools is part of Xfce core (it is required if you want to build sources from git clones. It contains M4 macros for autoconf). Neverless I think for the 4.14 it will be fine, with GTK+3 migration, some unmaintained plugins will be removed and ports tree clean up. Note: Migration to GTK+3 is coming, the Xfce devel repo already contains the latest unstable releases, and it is up-to-date. Regards, [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-xfce/2016-May/001353.html > Regards, > Ben > > -- > From: Benjamin Woods > woodsb02@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-xfce > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-xfce-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Olivier Duchateau From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Wed Jun 29 07:07:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEF6B86EF7 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46BFC2EE6; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id v199so167197110wmv.0; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=E0sjby2Z7V0Lgw990RyLLA9vgLTT4WCxezogepRQ/N8=; b=B/7um2DY/XxyrSUcOLP19EkTJDMwq5zFJwDR5M9eZzl73U7WtcjlQ6YsTfbq55GOKL TP2+H6Ct4O2CTNn/yrDoig4hRLe067Qu3O17Ve37vOskLwBDT6kPbkOddZBs5IlTXTAO 4spZlneO+LZ4hcwILOu5ySaFL+yUatGFTN3F9qqQc3mYX7Kgl+2Caus29m+Jvq1kUviS 1JuuaurzEU+dvxB5Tsbnr4qNkjyppE1J5VMsnBU5NaizzrXXyyhLRKi4jQrW6aUU/KWT fhXazI76AUBmd5zhUVaTYZpOCEmv6vTqgZfECcU7TvdK1+SY+I1pIXDvGONtAghk27cj NsRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=E0sjby2Z7V0Lgw990RyLLA9vgLTT4WCxezogepRQ/N8=; b=Uug3YEyw/bXo2jtjNplqFKdd0rtRP306U+3g3G1fi2fylTRwNYXQ7/8giAbHw+VZd2 ra1yjpM43a/P+3DpuZR7M8xEyERi2gTy5IUCPKGxsy7NwRUqs4p5RUnSugPMU/ykMShS 6XKjODwSu3zH2SG01SqEwl+smJhqSQwxt/en1Ci2UN6MmZ9tnUwIxZkWBmeN3DW3jVAY bDjJgLHn2Pvd+21wsvcJ0eKUyXvQRXIjlETYglasAfGQhw+J34UXVWvARF9e+iG4CNxx QLhS3hmxyFKitNx9wx617rR0gKwOIMiNimW5cg7Yxq8/W5u0shzyeNp0hdczJyH6ca2D S1uA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJZu3CDAtwALTIsVzRiswfQ+PD8hV2TfXpoZ5551SmWqHaZl+TMNl4knT7C/j47bcXjr70H+RYAYWdj4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.80.106 with SMTP id q10mr6717539wjx.155.1467184036743; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.116.193 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160628233111.b37cf7b18f511a288421b1ef@freebsd.org> References: <20160628233111.b37cf7b18f511a288421b1ef@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:07:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Meta-port for Goodies From: Ben Woods To: Olivier Duchateau Cc: "freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:07:18 -0000 On Wednesday, 29 June 2016, Olivier Duchateau wrote: > > Not yet review your changes. Personally I'm against (but I'm open with > good arguments, or wait the 4.14 release at least). FreeBSD is not a Linux > distro (this is recurring requets). > In the past, plugins were not well maintained (switch from 4.8 to 4.10 was > painful). > > Moreover in ports tree some plugins and applications are obsolete or > "broken": > > - xfce4-mixer (not anymore maintained by upstream), that's why it's > development version in ports tree > - xfce4-print (not anymore maintained by upstream) > - libxfce4gui (considered obsolete by upstream), replaced by libxfce4menu > and libxfce4utils > - xfce4-dashboard is broken, it's Clutter's problem (even new stable > release, 0.6.0 [1]) > - xfce4-wm-themes (not anymore maintained by upstream) > - thunar-vfs (not anymore maintained by upstream) > - squeeze (no update since 8 years) > - xfce4-notification-daemon should be removed (xfce4-notifyd is the only > notification daemon supported by upstream) > > Vala bindings is not in good shape (it's not your fault). > > xfce4-dev-tools is part of Xfce core (it is required if you want to build > sources from git clones. It contains M4 macros for autoconf). > > Neverless I think for the 4.14 it will be fine, with GTK+3 migration, some > unmaintained plugins will be removed and ports tree clean up. > > Note: Migration to GTK+3 is coming, the Xfce devel repo already contains > the latest unstable releases, and it is up-to-date. > > Regards, > > [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-xfce/2016-May/001353.html > Hi Olivier, Thanks for the reply. For me, each of your comments is EXACTLY why I would like to see this goodies port. This is where the xfce@ team can set which options are enabled to decide which ports which be installed on most user's desktop. Documenting the state of xfce ports is good, maintaining the goodies port so that only the working, maintained and recommended ports are automatically installed is even better! Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com