From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Feb 26 15:08:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4349ECEEB46 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E70A3CF for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from desk.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F22792E9; Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by desk.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D29A042D0; Sun, 26 Feb 2017 16:06:51 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Eric Badger Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procfs ctl interface References: <451312a7-9ae9-c5a1-4153-2268039c5942@badgerio.us> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 16:06:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <451312a7-9ae9-c5a1-4153-2268039c5942@badgerio.us> (Eric Badger's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:43:32 -0600") Message-ID: <86efylf0tw.fsf@desk.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:08:30 -0000 Eric Badger writes: > I started working on a change that will perturb procfs' ctl interface > to some degree. In looking closer at procfs, it seems like it has been > pretty well broken for use as a debugging interface since at least 9.3 > (the oldest system I have handy). Is there any reason to maintain this > interface at all? If anything, it should perhaps be made into an > alternate front end for ptrace() rather than being entirely separate, > but I'm not sure I see the value in that. If it's unused, go for it. It is an abomination. So is ptrace, but we're stuck with it until someone comes up with something better. I have tried and failed twice. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no