From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Oct 8 19:17:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4FDE3DB9F for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4C474530 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E5C3CE3DB9C; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54E5E3DB9B for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19F4B74525 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v98Im72O022203 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 Oct 2017 05:48:14 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v98Im086092273 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Oct 2017 05:48:00 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v98Im0Mu092272; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 05:48:00 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 05:48:00 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Making C++11 a hard requirement for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20171008184800.GD36522@server.rulingia.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PuGuTyElPB9bOcsM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2017 19:17:23 -0000 --PuGuTyElPB9bOcsM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-Oct-05 16:28:44 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >I'd like to start a conversation about the viability of making C++11 a hard >requirement for bootstrapping FreeBSD and setting a specific deadline for >doing so. I don't have any specific objection and the suggested timeframe sounds reasonable to me. >I'd like to propose we do this 12/31/17. Any architectures that can't meet >this timeline will be disconnected from universe at that time and deleted >3/31/18. Note that FreeBSD is an international project. Using abbreviated US-format dates can be ambiguous. Please either use ISO standard dates (2017-12-31) or a variant with the abbreviated month name (2017-Dec-31) to reduce the scope for confusion. --=20 Peter Jeremy --PuGuTyElPB9bOcsM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJZ2nLgXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs08V0P/3bY/K6DmeWdCcQudHvjmS28 /tRKidm79EOyhv4V36jtvJBPdRmk77dr+xQFSpq8n7f1UbUnt1qchx/mLGirbOa9 fLFf5BXocaM8jm3ER2IJlD0/1uKP5QhzLMeWkEZyxPFsJeMw8Bmp7TQMkBHb68/W un/fDpYvMWDVHPYmJneV6IEiUQG2e2deNMLQZUe+3QxTKGwG2c9EIsH9lzXKzR6y 4AwMXH2bhvfFntsv/qm7B/arhXVGQErxJRmaXm/jEi8cpiYZ5CVuhIrJpQHFrqDn Hplw0foxYsviyF/ZEFw/k8/S3tVHX1NgbRTPaNtvV4op4QnQhYmK6bt+ThnWLPSX 6o6GpLvKN7zhEkyTSOQFmgtHyatjONhzIS+dxwTAnrgYg3R7xEePc8x6aepIXvvo lcyMkWsJbAPwUHZq8ALyTN65qD3+g46w5YDYQZQlpUij/Ot6lF9Pyty853UBp+zb E93AVxvhpXhv9lAk+ADjjZALfPZ0iov732YmKlACdsu7s532TwdxHgQfAfiWYnRY z3IEOODF66sNrm9+zoXPESBdn6LLAgboFtjtb9zhOz/hcSXQJllKk6Mo110Ezah+ Vj7m+9JKNotQxmUVhmTO9dz7KKDDhkOgPli2drBV1QUDXEth9GY2snev7Wcb7yNu Ngs7E+b0WBJXqLLyFl7m =kgu5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PuGuTyElPB9bOcsM--