From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sat Dec 30 08:10:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76BCEB06BE for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B106B7398B for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B070AEB06B7; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01EDEB06B6 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B34E73989 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id e20so365394iof.12 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LabOMwEMRdBtP/EKe8k3wS6WhoEgMibbAc+LeHXTiu8=; b=wZZmq0/MC/l2YYCB66+UlDqECckq0DNBe44vvOYBDijngzH52NKxlFamJ3GA374ham vHAS7pRKhznCuTPUag8p+sU3OO/rp0bY2sYMnSU8F4OsKMXjcuxOH1zvlroE8E8LKL5T OjNkG/hZkXpEA27x1qkjpgg1EqBQEVTGOFsJEZWnXZ1HqTRTbbY/i3w20jKglkM1tt94 CcTkwsH/Hvz3TiYLo9AiiGQkLrIwRbmSSAWQe42RQVwIzCbtMQXlw68TDXUjxZS3EHNr QBICUE1mX5emf/ONPLh0fSmbLJLNpaSdycmPyk/U3tJ0rHDzgvZHD0t79P7OmnNr4W4R H2SA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to; bh=LabOMwEMRdBtP/EKe8k3wS6WhoEgMibbAc+LeHXTiu8=; b=pNKAl9U7JWbNUrg1sZWs+TbTmbGaHqH4e8FG69cakUetGl4RlyWyWlvwmGyt5u10lp tnxKcntdXfm7zizd8xJY+hcPixRkv6LP8hJ/zgkWJoxgSB5KDj741omgkFYIpU+vOmrP DC6pR4VkDt/9Oe1itBZ2113TyG4hesRcfQ3IQCzPl+0dfMveogN/wZYA8Vy8209rAMX0 iWZ669WQBJOyj4d3e4eHCbyNSS4bIulIFT9OGOJuumKyF7bcqBD2fCZmtHdimZupSzZR k3QamWiOwl5BE0/9BN6Jo1tkk0Yi+k7LaCggH0e+1u4AY3TF70YePBq02js50sjtXjVb OwRw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIHc2fo/Ys/X1hwApD9kCkfArs2vBp+RrjPbENNiPUl8obPI6Y9 jeBP0stm3aVNGkAcJepdO/VxAdi2g9uATAIt8voH4g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotIlE+R45gd4E3ttY30jXyDjyK7e4cEWJSOKUo3itPKL+ew6vKXu1ihAtp/JwRjTPUEiSrDAXiGdP/qsri9Im0= X-Received: by 10.107.183.202 with SMTP id h193mr27156107iof.291.1514621412494; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 00:10:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.108.204 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 00:10:11 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:10:11 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Gtzo5MoewYWruRZgXam-1ewq4MU Message-ID: Subject: Minor MIPS tree pruning To: "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Adrian Chadd , Robert Watson , John Baldwin , Emmanuel Vadot Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:10:16 -0000 I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following before the FreeBSD 12 branch. adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack memory, very old) idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to arch@. We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older ports around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on these boards anymore. If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer running on them, please let me know. Thanks! Warner From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sat Dec 30 12:03:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B08EB8BC6 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mizhka@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECE57A6C9 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mizhka@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1A6AAEB8BC4; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F0CEB8BC3; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mizhka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x230.google.com (mail-qk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C57E07A6C8; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mizhka@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x230.google.com with SMTP id o126so42843271qke.12; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 04:03:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hbiRqFmfbCHRI6w79RDNFZPm6Pq7vc90JE+64wsrzR4=; b=f+eJsFuI+Td/qUKooZGi3faIQ0JJx5AK/RzeDMGPJk/aVUpQxppPb7M/YN5aXPTnE+ hS1j5R43Zf9dDjDAKfJNOm+saACWE/Q34/z0JE0WDVUZzZeC/yiiH8rviIxvmw1+Kxnu 4bc1bkO23q1RDecyqjVH4zygLVvzLipXVqUCZLdc9rz0nlvNpELt5Eu6kE3wQEkjEzm7 X2D5k8jmnQLr24LQGr/e4aU+KUwExTMtjF+FJ+t6uFKFvd51RH9EhK80N8gtMH/k7jQn HQ8UXMKWk945vd4rfUk+JwYmLJPstkCGPlkxlle264KCfBW/waTowBaX1tn73mNYBvt+ 1GKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hbiRqFmfbCHRI6w79RDNFZPm6Pq7vc90JE+64wsrzR4=; b=MCRP2jMMWtq4H0Nd+1gMBVAvM/PVTsWkt1aeRIIs44gMsz8N3xXB7692z2nY3Jccvh 0EkzsTYcqvhr4b3Pa84R3bLgiED36tcnoQXqUS+oqnoteI2m4foF+a2rD1lX+vAy/vvj HHady8a+IgytfdZvL2IIw11vsbIMxv65BWpWjepV9BXg+t/pE+Uoaz+mQE8x6quc9B8p /udTJSYz4Sz6yHRJGHIz3WumOf23W28RPerc7/Q5JoC9NYfXiLr5dMj2E6lHb8I5UZOi N/37vGOzmMoHVf5Thmv4Ot1qQU0Uj9E7e4Sxa+1B5Q4Nb4aPUFMpYy4GACXgwXdbCuX2 rrSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJ7PRMk0gJ9ZVDMeyohhJPF+g4i4OI7x2n7BazJqHYMEU8S4ctq HwyPiaeA7BP9HepfERjHmWxN2EeZ3p/hKnJaPJPlAmHO X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBou1+W8vfX6v8STNElnTAg8uTjK+ZtCUKZ2LcMqXnRCp44D1m87j4JwcKuQTqdGp0J0nqhlSeaX9tzzhQYZ6Fk0= X-Received: by 10.55.190.135 with SMTP id o129mr46736141qkf.282.1514635381873; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 04:03:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.89.244 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 04:03:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Zhilin Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:03:01 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Adrian Chadd , Robert Watson , John Baldwin , Emmanuel Vadot Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:03:03 -0000 Hi Warner, If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to be kept for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik from Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte is to be part of broadcom and also kept for a while. rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router" with RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). And I don't know what is alchemy. :) Thank you! P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family. On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following before the > FreeBSD 12 branch. > > adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack > memory, very old) > idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) > > I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to arch@. > > We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older ports > around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on these > boards anymore. > > If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer running on > them, please let me know. Thanks! > > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sat Dec 30 16:30:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDBFEA0D90 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8C1290F for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0CE65EA0D8B; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C740EA0D8A; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.blih.net", Issuer "mail.blih.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDD84290B; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9ec93de1; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:30:06 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=bidouilliste.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=ZborojvnB+OPQwsTdg6TEVjKYU4=; b=TIuqYL2zk02kCDjqS6uW/YBBv9be aB14okV0/cDhtJuerQ2biIIuO9Gp7/drA8h4kS1/t+ZSSUj8oDSP+883U8xZOQmG hcQUCpf/PazeiMVd2NNiy2A+6focOtETKvIiTVmgNQq1qhWVEDQK5WYm8tC6M1Mm DnFmOddIej8K6/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=bidouilliste.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s= mail; b=srQ9nW4dlp9FZ8BBYZlK88Wjn3LaI4c+tz9VALJlbdxhnKYBSFn0atxT 2DtqUJfzyEUyeGAs3BoAOnMACBUd1DHkIzRqRhqfVvjSbUGQDTFPhcjl5PGTtkzP MggecneerszPMLC/dQAeucSJ5R/AjnZSv14l8OrO4+HuWdO7dkY= Received: from arcadia.home.blih.net (ip-9.net-89-3-105.rev.numericable.fr [89.3.105.9]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 01fa3395 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:30:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:30:04 +0100 From: Emmanuel Vadot To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Adrian Chadd , Robert Watson , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning Message-Id: <20171230173004.5bdb22887a082063b697bccd@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.6.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:30:16 -0000 On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:10:11 -0700 Warner Losh wrote: > I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following before the > FreeBSD 12 branch. > > adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack > memory, very old) > idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) Olimex still sell rt5350 board (those two are quite the same SoC) : https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/RT5350F/RT5350F-OLinuXino/open-source-hardware I did port FreeBSD on it almost three years ago (https://www.bidouilliste.com/blog/2015/07/22/FreeBSD-on-Olimex-RT5350F-OLinuXino/ ) but I don't remember if any of my code when into the tree but we have support from it based on the work from sgalabov@ It doesn't mean I've objecting to the removal, I have no interest in mips and I don't even know the actual support on it. > sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) > > I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to arch@. > > We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older ports > around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on these > boards anymore. > > If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer running on > them, please let me know. Thanks! > > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Emmanuel Vadot From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sat Dec 30 16:44:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB4EA1809 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC3D30D6 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BD26FEA1803; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB4EEA1802; 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Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:44:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 11:44:20 -0500 From: Alexander Kabaev To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Adrian Chadd , Robert Watson , John Baldwin , Emmanuel Vadot Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning Message-ID: <20171230114420.3154579c@kan> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/Fp4zCNvX7EpYzo0mWD=4A95"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:44:32 -0000 --Sig_/Fp4zCNvX7EpYzo0mWD=4A95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:10:11 -0700 Warner Losh wrote: > I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following > before the FreeBSD 12 branch. >=20 > adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack > memory, very old) > idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) >=20 > I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to > arch@. >=20 > We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older > ports around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even > work on these boards anymore. >=20 > If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer > running on them, please let me know. Thanks! >=20 > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" RMI is another one that should get on chopping block, IMHO. They are impossible to track down in the wild and files were not touched more or less ever since being committed. They also re-implement too much of the code in MI and chances of FreeBSD-current working on the hardware are very, very slim. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/Fp4zCNvX7EpYzo0mWD=4A95 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Цифровая подпись OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEExffZlZm2QeE8UVaRBxMimZJ5Ln4FAlpHwmVfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEM1 RjdEOTk1OTlCNjQxRTEzQzUxNTY5MTA3MTMyMjk5OTI3OTJFN0UACgkQBxMimZJ5 Ln65BA/+P3/tumH2GwTYIuWAqzj1mRTRr7F8bHRXJgwIfPiepRE6lrX1VDWxD7KX QOB/kp0++FiLcFgoWHIZCkUK347OC+sfhvrvzV2fgatwk04hgfSJKigx/SW82y+Z 1IcXB6b+xewIYOqvCgc1Wi41C+vMHrdSEyffBUJLIk7lq1kTf87vtepfQRrv1cIc RWOn1Fx3jClyJohcDArLYqFwAnZwjjBkxRmaFKrImJrIY4nriHLaq6AZ6nxXHWxE cyXqQTJy5fR456FH/9epAaU6IHoNDAG3QauYv2ghCU/IfjNFgm/iIE+VvRBLvM4F vIUY7tjcASzHiP43Dv4aJYxjIAT0QlgsqwQHKtqc1B+bbUBmukS4sCMQzPu+RwzW cLPBDqTngDqifC4TCXI3co4O4BEjrwiXu3W07xVcQzxTuEtK6vIVfN8xIUJzaZgd kXXq+OKLGREVITnTfBqjkBpyUyrgdPiavV9zfJU9YKNw7MrpEKVu6cANLDKQ+H+6 PjX9pmUVCwcT6vIDC9rNR6JrWa6jpOTcbkZEN8TKSzo7BPUHAHVI0W9FSlxTq18S hmD0PifQQgDgVQnPzmRGiL7UIjLw3n3IP4gOxcGB2iP14YYROGXH4q97GWf7lCOp gTzSgNJnNC6Da37TO3+Q7Hn3q9A/AHgS9OSXB198aJvxdM2kk+M= =5tpr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Fp4zCNvX7EpYzo0mWD=4A95-- From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sat Dec 30 17:09:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577FFEA2AF9 for ; 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Sat, 30 Dec 2017 09:09:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.12.136 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 09:09:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20171230173004.5bdb22887a082063b697bccd@bidouilliste.com> References: <20171230173004.5bdb22887a082063b697bccd@bidouilliste.com> From: Stanislav Galabov Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:09:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning To: Emmanuel Vadot Cc: Warner Losh , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Robert Watson , "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:09:28 -0000 On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:10:11 -0700 > Warner Losh wrote: > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following before the >> FreeBSD 12 branch. >> >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack >> memory, very old) >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > > Olimex still sell rt5350 board (those two are quite the same SoC) : > https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/RT5350F/RT5350F-OLinuXino/open-source-hardware > > I did port FreeBSD on it almost three years ago > (https://www.bidouilliste.com/blog/2015/07/22/FreeBSD-on-Olimex-RT5350F-OLinuXino/ > ) but I don't remember if any of my code when into the tree but we have > support from it based on the work from sgalabov@ > Yes, the Ralink chips, as well as the newer Mediatek (post-acquisition) ones, are supported by the code in sys/mips/mediatek. The original idea was to have both sys/mips/mediatek and sys/mips/rt305x for historical reasons and later on remove the rt305x one if there are no objections. Seeing as the mediatek support actually supports a lot more SoCs and also supports FDT, I think this is still the way to go. > It doesn't mean I've objecting to the removal, I have no interest in > mips and I don't even know the actual support on it. > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) >> >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to arch@. >> >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older ports >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on these >> boards anymore. >> >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer running on >> them, please let me know. Thanks! >> >> Warner >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > Emmanuel Vadot > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sat Dec 30 22:11:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505C0EAF34E for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758B6FFD5 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 26A03EAF34C; 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Sat, 30 Dec 2017 14:11:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.108.204 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 14:11:09 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: References: <20171230173004.5bdb22887a082063b697bccd@bidouilliste.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:11:09 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: H39WxXWEqOQa9F20fjLZAh6gfXY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning To: Stanislav Galabov Cc: Emmanuel Vadot , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Robert Watson , "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:11:11 -0000 On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Stanislav Galabov wrote: > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Emmanuel Vadot > wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:10:11 -0700 > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following before > the > >> FreeBSD 12 branch. > >> > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack > >> memory, very old) > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > > > > Olimex still sell rt5350 board (those two are quite the same SoC) : > > https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/RT5350F/ > RT5350F-OLinuXino/open-source-hardware > > > > I did port FreeBSD on it almost three years ago > > (https://www.bidouilliste.com/blog/2015/07/22/FreeBSD-on- > Olimex-RT5350F-OLinuXino/ > > ) but I don't remember if any of my code when into the tree but we have > > support from it based on the work from sgalabov@ > > > Yes, the Ralink chips, as well as the newer Mediatek > (post-acquisition) ones, are supported by the code in > sys/mips/mediatek. > The original idea was to have both sys/mips/mediatek and > sys/mips/rt305x for historical reasons and later on remove the rt305x > one if there are no objections. > Seeing as the mediatek support actually supports a lot more SoCs and > also supports FDT, I think this is still the way to go. so svn rm sys/mips/rt305x is in order? Warner > > It doesn't mean I've objecting to the removal, I have no interest in > > mips and I don't even know the actual support on it. > > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) > >> > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to arch@ > . > >> > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older > ports > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on > these > >> boards anymore. > >> > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer > running on > >> them, please let me know. 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When last I tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and generally came with no more than 32M or 64M of memory. mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be deleted w/o loss of functionality. I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems to support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a bunch of errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. What am I missing? Warner On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin wrote: > Hi Warner, > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to be kept > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik from > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte is to be > part of broadcom and also kept for a while. > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router" with > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :) > > Thank you! > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family. > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following before the >> FreeBSD 12 branch. >> >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack >> memory, very old) >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) >> >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to arch@. >> >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older >> ports >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on these >> boards anymore. >> >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer running >> on >> them, please let me know. Thanks! >> >> Warner >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >