From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Sun Oct 15 07:20:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9807AE3C44F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 07:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pkholm.com) Received: from whitestar.pkholm.com (whitestar.pkholm.com [176.58.93.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 629F86D6CF for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 07:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pkholm.com) Received: from webmail.pkholm.com (webmail.pkholm.com [192.168.1.9]) by whitestar.pkholm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAEAB2AC42 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 18:13:05 +1100 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pkholm.com; s=whitestar; t=1508051586; bh=YD5+NLB0PYJ5JpeTkgk8UeXUwIgzJGuWiXytbFbWzII=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=aYbax8a1g9khecA/ax4xCC7C1dFuCi15uEmSstvKoWgzj/3D6AIq47iQPfWQA5LDU PLpKUH+GTnanMhAgAxGrbfMhOZboOr0kY0vDF1k2L+fLNPvcvhyBXu9s8e0brJcZz0 yS9KgggsoJMSduGOZF+ftU7wD1twUz6zCifPmjic= Received: from webmail.pkholm.com (webmail.pkholm.com [192.168.1.9]) by webmail.pkholm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C0CCE0E for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 18:13:00 +1100 (AEDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 18:12:59 +1100 From: Paul H To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: 3D xpoint AKA Optane as ZIL/L2ARC Message-ID: <5edfe2e55d76ca69afe918020a20e423@pkholm.com> X-Sender: freebsd@pkholm.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 07:20:45 -0000 G'day, Mates I'm not sure to what mailing list this message really belongs too. ( Hardware or this one). Does anyone done any real world benchmarks of Optane memory with ZFS? It is new type of memory different from normal DRAM or flash. 32Gb and 16GB M.2 modules are currently available for < 100 USD. It makes it quite attractive as small boost for ZFS. Looking to just a specification using it as L2ARC does not make much sense, good M.2 SSD will be faster on random reads. But ZIL is a different story, SSD is not great as ZIL due to write amplification and fact that you need to TRIM data. XPoint seems to be performing really well on random small writes. This is type of load i would expect to see on ZIL drives. I could couple of pages internet about 3D XPoint and ZFS, but they are all really amateurish. Can anyone point me on some more solid testings. WBR Paul