From owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org Sun Feb 19 20:14:32 2017 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B34ACE55F1 for <freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C1710C7 for <freebsd-java@freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 05369CE55F0; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338CCE55EF for <java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB4B10C6; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1JKETYb014015; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1JKETZX014014; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:14:29 -0800 From: Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com> To: Palle Girgensohn <girgen@freebsd.org> Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of OpenJDK 9 on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20170219201429.GB8011@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <6a5097ec1febe52813e2c9776c28fdb0.squirrel@webmail.pingpong.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6a5097ec1febe52813e2c9776c28fdb0.squirrel@webmail.pingpong.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD <freebsd-java.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-java>, <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-java@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java>, <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:14:32 -0000 On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 12:02:01PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi, > > What is the status of the upcoming OpenJDK 9 for FreeBSD, compared to the > other platforms? Is there any help needed? > > Palle The BSD port is severely out of date at the moment wrt JDK9. Our repo is at build 119 whereas the official release is build 160, or something like that. So it is badly in need of updating. That is a non-trivial amount of work at this point. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org Sun Feb 19 20:35:02 2017 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FBACE5D7B for <freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7221CC4 for <freebsd-java@freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9ABA9CE5D7A; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B96CE5D79 for <java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC101CC2; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1JKD05L014007; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:13:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1JKD0BR014006; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:13:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:13:00 -0800 From: Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com> To: marino@freebsd.org Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: java/openjdk6 Message-ID: <20170219201300.GA8011@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <f2c67608-c329-3859-f5e7-87e5182bf5db@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <f2c67608-c329-3859-f5e7-87e5182bf5db@marino.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD <freebsd-java.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-java>, <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-java@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java>, <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:35:02 -0000 On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 12:33:11PM -0600, John Marino wrote: > Openjdk6 has reached EOL (Dec 2016) > Ref: > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2016-October/003606.html > > Isn't it time to deprecate on ports? > > John Since then there has been a new project lead appointed http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2017-January/003625.html and a new release http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2017-January/003615.html In short, the proposed EoL ended instead in a new maintainer. As long as they keep backporting patches it seems reasonable to keep it in ports as long as the maintainer is willing. That said, there is a separate question of how useful it is. As more and more Java software removes support for JDK 6 its usefulness diminishes. I think that is the more compelling discussion about whether to keep it going and in what form. E.g. should it remain as a port but be removed from javavm as an option? -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org Sun Feb 19 21:36:12 2017 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D5DCE6461 for <freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1537EAE for <freebsd-java@freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9DBDCCE6460; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBA5CE645F for <java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (connect.ultra-secure.de [88.198.71.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C2DEAD; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (Haraka outbound); Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:34:58 +0100 Authentication-Results: connect.ultra-secure.de; iprev=pass; auth=pass (plain); spf=none smtp.mailfrom=ultra-secure.de Received-SPF: None (connect.ultra-secure.de: domain of ultra-secure.de does not designate 217.71.83.52 as permitted sender) receiver=connect.ultra-secure.de; identity=mailfrom; client-ip=217.71.83.52; helo=[192.168.1.200]; envelope-from=<rainer@ultra-secure.de> Received: from [192.168.1.200] (217-071-083-052.ip-tech.ch [217.71.83.52]) by connect.ultra-secure.de (Haraka/2.6.2-toaster) with ESMTPSA id EABF3B56-607C-4C93-9FAF-CE787698155F.1 envelope-from <rainer@ultra-secure.de> (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA verify=NO); Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:34:56 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: java/openjdk6 From: Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de> In-Reply-To: <20170219201300.GA8011@misty.eyesbeyond.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:34:29 +0100 Cc: marino@freebsd.org, java@freebsd.org Message-Id: <F30979DD-A697-4AA9-9C49-D633FE29913B@ultra-secure.de> References: <f2c67608-c329-3859-f5e7-87e5182bf5db@marino.st> <20170219201300.GA8011@misty.eyesbeyond.com> To: Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Haraka-GeoIP: EU, CH, 451km X-Haraka-ASN: 24951 X-Haraka-GeoIP-Received: X-Haraka-ASN: 24951 217.71.80.0/20 X-Haraka-ASN-CYMRU: asn=24951 net=217.71.80.0/20 country=CH assignor=ripencc date=2003-08-07 X-Haraka-FCrDNS: 217-071-083-052.ip-tech.ch X-Haraka-p0f: os="Mac OS X " link_type="DSL" distance=15 total_conn=8 shared_ip=N X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on spamassassin X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Haraka-Karma: score: 6, good: 2357, bad: 1, connections: 2758, history: 2356, asn_score: 880, asn_connections: 971, asn_good: 880, asn_bad: 0, pass:asn, asn_all_good, relaying Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD <freebsd-java.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-java>, <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-java@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java>, <mailto:freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:36:12 -0000 > Am 19.02.2017 um 21:13 schrieb Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>: >=20 > That said, there is a separate question of how useful it is It=E2=80=99s probably OK for people who want (or rather: need) to run = stuff like tomcat55. Does anybody pay for the maintenance of the FreeBSD JDK port? I mean, = either directly by employing/contracting a developer or indirectly by = paying for something that needs JDK? As you mentioned, it=E2=80=99s a lot of work. Just curious - my employer is not in a position nor has it got the need = to do anything like that (unfortunately).