From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 23 04:05:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD14D40399 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 04:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x22a.google.com (mail-yw0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C14E436D for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 04:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id u70so66145553ywe.2 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:05:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=L6xydiS3LZ4nPTvRLiBA5tAMwUDmTNCW7tIab8FAM90=; b=CImwuX/qV/YKXD8M6SAqhnU7Sm0elkFsidGRIk3OdKaPf/C9Tow3Y03iGRm1Scr+3N YnL46cGKvG8NkOUKslmedScxOqVwRys0hkQFA6bOlmzmIj21li0jdbSo63f6pc7XPfmU Z6DQmG+Tvj6KtfGaNgk+JYTDqpVXrq76vdUXrAG/qlTwktuFLTTs3uph6i3ZVrKnHJWf J5tgkkXAOeEgQnZPpACqN7uSYJJxKYjOa0vsDXTUpVIgj5bAbduUEfvYKOgmWQjUaomn 7/G8FzxuohRE8NlNP9qj2HRQqBtsLeEAgKOCLU3ARqjTwtgO2GkTVjsDcDayMfee8Uzo 243g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=L6xydiS3LZ4nPTvRLiBA5tAMwUDmTNCW7tIab8FAM90=; b=Kxdts+hqCFXNVO5vdG7oWSOWkfHeTNFtHDUcpDhRGDWAT8S0C544NHVVykUZIwED/G 4OfnjSzB3kShf1LvpoMccxwb+ID/3tp2qx4qcWIdvnYLsmwRxoJJIgsRg25tXqaQv95y RMHx2UlGbwmIp8O6ZGIGBnTGXXZcFrpdioPCSTMswVZ+R5j6P10fdo350MlDw3S2nsn0 vYnNYN94ODmQaywiFb8h7ypU8nwJR8YYRXpdey4oHKtgt3kmudKSjf5heIpXDlTQqlVy /bpynTiNJNXdj4aGL5jo+m2gH8Usm6zWGh3aZc8BA4h5+VYuozzS/AAPVMHB9MZ9PPwU ZPyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6glFTiTQiDB2YgrvlS1C4Zi8YPJ+wYssFjj+LdFZC5ClGR6Xu3 tsBYxyOHLahColPgsF5j91z06EBxW2Pq X-Received: by 10.129.120.86 with SMTP id t83mr179874ywc.331.1492920335688; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:05:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.72.144 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:05:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1492564334.1388098.948742560.5E2E6A2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1492564334.1388098.948742560.5E2E6A2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ultima Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:05:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Openvpn broken when using net.add_addr_allfibs=0, routes are not adding To: bsd Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 04:05:37 -0000 The problem to me looks to be because there is no ip address on fib 1, but I'm not sure how openvpn can initiate the connect to the vpn with no ip address. Try and ping something using fib 1. The result will probably be no route to host. Many of the route commands are failing in the openvpn log because of this. If an 192.168.0.0/24 ip is added to the fib, this should fix the problem. Hope this helps, Ultima On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:12 PM, bsd wrote: > I am trying to use OpenVPN and multiple fibs on FreeBSD 11-p9. The issue > is, when I use > net.add_addr_allfibs=0 instead of net.add_addr_allfibs=1 in my > /boot/loader.conf, OpenVPN > fails to be able to add the routes properly and the VPN will not > function properly. > > OpenVPN works 100% fine when I use net.add_addr_allfibs=1 but my > requirements need this to be > set to 0 to turn off it's behavior of adding routes to all fibs. > > # /boot/loader.conf > net.fibs=3 > net.add_addr_allfibs=0 > > Since I am using net.add_addr_allfibs=0, I have a clean routing table > and I have to add the initial route > and gateway for my router manually to get fib 1 routeable to the > internet. > > # setfib 1 route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 -iface ue0 > # setfib 1 route add default 192.168.0.1 > > For some odd reason I must also bring up a tun device manually otherwise > OpenVPN cannot. I have set my config > to use tun10 for this test. > > # sysrc openvpn_if="tun10" > # ifconfig tun10 up > > My routing table before I start > > # setfib 1 netstat -rn > Routing tables (fib: 1) > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire > default 192.168.0.1 UGS ue0 > 127.0.0.1 lo0 UHS lo0 > 192.168.0.0/24 b8:27:eb:fd:22:10 US ue0 > > Internet6: > Destination Gateway Flags > Netif Expire > ::/96 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > ::1 lo0 UHS > lo0 > ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > fe80::/10 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > fe80::%lo0/64 link#1 U > lo0 > ff02::/16 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > [sean@rpi2 ~]$ > > Let's try to conect OpenVPN > > # setfib 1 openvpn dallas.ovpn > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 OpenVPN 2.3.11 armv6-portbld-freebsd11.0 [SSL > (OpenSSL)] [LZO] [MH] [IPv6] built on J > un 25 2016 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 library versions: OpenSSL 1.0.2j-freebsd 26 > Sep 2016, LZO 2.09 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 Control Channel Authentication: tls-auth using > INLINE static key file > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 Outgoing Control Channel Authentication: Using > 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC a > uthentication > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 Incoming Control Channel Authentication: Using > 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC a > uthentication > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 Socket Buffers: R=[42080->42080] S=[9216->9216] > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 UDPv4 link local: [undef] > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 UDPv4 link remote: [AF_INET]107.183.238.186:443 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 TLS: Initial packet from > [AF_INET]107.183.238.186:443, sid=c8b24ffa a8737d61 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 VERIFY OK: depth=1, C=IT, ST=IT, L=Perugia, > O=airvpn.org, CN=airvpn.org CA, emailAddr > ess=info@airvpn.org > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 Validating certificate key usage > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 ++ Certificate has key usage 00a0, expects > 00a0 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 VERIFY KU OK > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 Validating certificate extended key usage > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 ++ Certificate has EKU (str) TLS Web Server > Authentication, expects TLS Web Server Au > thentication > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 VERIFY EKU OK > Thu Oct 27 12:11:32 2016 VERIFY OK: depth=0, C=IT, ST=IT, L=Perugia, > O=airvpn.org, CN=server, emailAddress=inf > o@airvpn.org > Thu Oct 27 12:11:36 2016 Data Channel Encrypt: Cipher 'AES-256-CBC' > initialized with 256 bit key > Thu Oct 27 12:11:36 2016 Data Channel Encrypt: Using 160 bit message > hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication > Thu Oct 27 12:11:36 2016 Data Channel Decrypt: Cipher 'AES-256-CBC' > initialized with 256 bit key > Thu Oct 27 12:11:36 2016 Data Channel Decrypt: Using 160 bit message > hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication > Thu Oct 27 12:11:36 2016 Control Channel: TLSv1.2, cipher TLSv1/SSLv3 > DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, 4096 bit RSA > Thu Oct 27 12:11:36 2016 [server] Peer Connection Initiated with > [AF_INET]107.183.238.186:443 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 SENT CONTROL [server]: 'PUSH_REQUEST' > (status=1) > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 PUSH: Received control message: > 'PUSH_REPLY,redirect-gateway def1 bypass-dhcp,dhcp-op > tion DNS 10.4.0.1,comp-lzo no,route-gateway 10.4.0.1,topology > subnet,ping 10,ping-restart 60,ifconfig 10.4.17. > 25 255.255.0.0' > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 OPTIONS IMPORT: timers and/or timeouts modified > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 OPTIONS IMPORT: LZO parms modified > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 OPTIONS IMPORT: --ifconfig/up options modified > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 OPTIONS IMPORT: route options modified > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 OPTIONS IMPORT: route-related options modified > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 OPTIONS IMPORT: --ip-win32 and/or --dhcp-option > options modified > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 ROUTE_GATEWAY 192.168.0.1 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 TUN/TAP device tun10 exists previously, keep at > program end > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 TUN/TAP device /dev/tun10 opened > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 do_ifconfig, tt->ipv6=0, > tt->did_ifconfig_ipv6_setup=0 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 /sbin/ifconfig tun10 10.4.17.25 10.4.0.1 mtu > 1500 netmask 255.255.0.0 up > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 /sbin/route add -net 10.4.0.0 10.4.17.25 > 255.255.0.0 > route: writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable > add net 10.4.0.0: gateway 10.4.17.25 fib 1: Network is unreachable > Thu Oct 27 12:11:39 2016 ERROR: FreeBSD route add command failed: > external program exited with error status: 1 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:44 2016 /sbin/route add -net 107.183.238.186 > 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.255 > add net 107.183.238.186: gateway 192.168.0.1 fib 1 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:44 2016 /sbin/route add -net 0.0.0.0 10.4.0.1 128.0.0.0 > route: writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable > add net 0.0.0.0: gateway 10.4.0.1 fib 1: Network is unreachable > Thu Oct 27 12:11:44 2016 ERROR: FreeBSD route add command failed: > external program exited with error status: 1 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:44 2016 /sbin/route add -net 128.0.0.0 10.4.0.1 > 128.0.0.0 > route: writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable > add net 128.0.0.0: gateway 10.4.0.1 fib 1: Network is unreachable > Thu Oct 27 12:11:44 2016 ERROR: FreeBSD route add command failed: > external program exited with error status: 1 > Thu Oct 27 12:11:44 2016 Initialization Sequence Completed > > The routes are failing to add and the VPN is not configured properly in > the end. > > My routing table now. We can see that the VPN did not configure > properly. The desired behavior is that it woul > d set the VPN to be the default gateway and route all traffic over it, > but only for FIB 1. > > # setfib 1 netstat -rn > Routing tables (fib: 1) > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire > default 192.168.0.1 UGS ue0 > 107.183.238.186/32 192.168.0.1 UGS ue0 > 127.0.0.1 lo0 UHS lo0 > 192.168.0.0/24 b8:27:eb:fd:22:10 US ue0 > > Internet6: > Destination Gateway Flags > Netif Expire > ::/96 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > ::1 lo0 UHS > lo0 > ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > fe80::/10 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > fe80::%lo0/64 link#1 U > lo0 > ff02::/16 ::1 UGRS > lo0 > > > Is this a bug or have I missed something? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 23 08:59:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09E6D4C3F0 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EF48D57 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:61813] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 97/AF-29375-8DC6CF85; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:59:05 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:58:43 +0000 Message-ID: <97.AF.29375.8DC6CF85@dnvrco-omsmta02> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accessing UFS partitions from a Macbook In-Reply-To: References: <20170420233840.N9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421011323.Q9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421021427.F9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.7:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:59:12 -0000 excerpt from Ian Smith: > Considering how BSD-ish it seems in Terminal - df, du and other commands > working as expected - I was a bit surprised that it doesn't support UFS > natively, given its heritage. When I first ran mount it complained - as > will FreeBSD without an fstab entry - about needing the -t switch, but > 'mount -t ufs' didn't complain about that but a (not) missing directory. There might be differences resulting in incompatibility between the versions of UFS in various BSDs, and Mac OS main filesystem is HFS+. I noticed, after downloading DragonFlyBSD installation image, dd'ing to USB stick, and booting, it could read GPT partition table but was unable to mount any FreeBSD and NetBSD partitions. Last DragonFlyBSD image I downloaded and dd'ed to USB stick didn't even get through the boot. FreeBSD and NetBSD were unable to mount the DragonFly USB-stick partition. There is also the issue of BSD disklabels when using MBR, and one BSD not being able to read the other's disklabel. 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The pid file still existed so presumably it didn't shut down cleanly. The problem is that normal routing had been restored. Is it possible to make it fail-safe so normal routing is only restored after a manual shutdown or after manual intervention? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 23 13:11:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5784CD4C266 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.127]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC31AC2A for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1492952848; bh=UHy2DW2aWSOqwh3OxHB9kKcErtm+wJ5xqDEc5Gqukao=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=qeEpeB9XyFdjvNJlk7L7XEkA8xz+BeyKfpofRIs1Io25CAIQux2zjW/K78aIMzeUwa0Cjr9T9mchkcd3bD+2XSCTaie14X10wYxB9K8gzU3lvBTS0wx/1LMi+bCkPb9LOMmrh/ls10TvdxnOK+6a4KbW485p1HGDtQPA1CcdqNpRe9EoKQIpOI28v5zVQ1ADZ5CZ+NPD9tAdyrFXzwNxkLpR/BtkCkeNafQN94fq/q9PmDGmTiDPFhNUC3EwixsDsL+84rADh37bjoJGvq/nFIuPUrww9AUUUx+wrmti0+j8/w2pEtaHiem0LuXfXjx5T2XZ7vtFVZD6t2bLOK/nuw== Received: from [212.82.98.62] by nm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2017 13:07:28 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.93] by tm15.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2017 13:07:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2017 13:07:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 187586.17234.bm@smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jrgSSQQVM1mnoefwKkyv3355jibRyof3NWNZy.ljQJztpXo 91_qE.XDHwvppS1dNjI9WkcNNqzv3i_8_IxjNjACpyua7nDM3jSET3r_dnTg 4wEjDGhONbb44CCAs_iaXA4fREM6GgXaVIiPpC3LL8UjLT9K73i6pwJzveSM BYELnTfOt11rM6jecGTLFpzRt1SLNzgLj7DnPeiy5WVkWeUoLizrF6xNYMdJ 97ANAz4eBPj2T4Gns.1n6CRlti79dhUOZ2b9lsdELhmAz013KlozpRkwP1_K WbfPt5nQeKhyoa8YozulnnpB7bYmGSSjNyNWXpbFC2FWQIkhtqDYl5by_bud U5KF4z5OnFe1nBh1B1CxnYcN4yZz5nQycakAjwTZSRijYSkUtbvzo_vgoQMs aaZu5gLjq_bPzt6B_bK9qPPSgaaL3jy3wr3r84RveyZ.JUUeGIjJkdlGJuo2 RxLopO8XiOf4rYwBj95G0TZE8RRl0ItAiZczN.R_5UzLJKDeo69RciiFQXq1 w8Mca9azfM8_4bfxG8DDtBN9DCgwXVq3el6kcJxmlf_41YGSyUOjm9rgSrHs Vl34D5Fns5YKsmutQ5Q2aJyU4UMOd_3TFJAo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:07:28 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: page removal Message-ID: <20170423150728.199dffab@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git20 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:11:02 -0000 On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:28:25 +0000, Darrick Uwins wrote: >https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-June/050247.html Your post from today will be in the archive and it will be published by Nabble, too. http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/freebsd-questions-f3696945.html So there will be several new links to the post you want to see removed, including my reply to your request. "The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect An around 13 years old link isn't really present anymore, until you remember that there is this oldish link. It would have been smarter to ask the one who runs the list off-list. I doubt that this person would remove a post from the archive, but at least you wouldn't have caused attention. In general posts could be duplicated by Gmane or Nabble and anything like that. Btw. how should the admin ensure, that you are the same person? I've seen such requests a few times on several mailing lists and I'm always surprised about the lack of understanding, how mailing lists work. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 23 13:16:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E4DD4C451 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CCF10BC for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 443F2D4C44F; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E7FD4C44E for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B810A10BB for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1492953356; bh=LvX9si3Nu9mUYWfrfl9/tLduKUt49KLSAwyAk89frsM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=iaJx7kDLeQK38vgiwrrW8wudzzwVLMasyHhStzwUbHK6WhfcFZnV3ZOKHxioG7mhWocpFgpSeY6m6djk8K5+Nb7MOV/hFQn8kWIu4zSoMIt7ALbRHOmqLSTPgOHurIKmxtuDZhGATjGKR7LL/32LhUOcPGW+i7n2FlQ95ZoZM1oHXoreA0jaKmq+bbeAbuzty/FET4bOZJqwWcUhRr/Mr97rHg5AONy4VTi6u9PYejhoZJWRq4Zth1hoebZpncWY6qMAsaWUpwm2pUHPCd5n9KfEZHFipNB+6QwouQmamJmP44phQJzUyptFudyRdxidN+KcNImGX36uesKjGRn+dQ== Received: from [212.82.98.54] by nm30.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2017 13:15:56 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.96] by tm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2017 13:15:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp133.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2017 13:15:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 706100.2858.bm@smtp133.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: RuaOFSwVM1m0G4v_pNv5jYkSkxJaKgQeLGc7Ww4GZWawGkw NJPGHGp5VXW3dEjTivIId3yRU5SN9f1xh3f1C4DrgiN_Hfx9Bf8rDllLPDDZ 4gxQW9cU5PufNbrM4.59utDjmNIlE_gTKxVp94aHTHekF1xZlT7pNm9uo7iN 8SVxi6L8UV2.T8wVYTL24kG3pGsGOyvsVMmhRP9zvrnhq.644Qc7UIrvJi8X R2.9Ab6fTdOxiMtxlcm676DtcMySGHTorQA9.A3G0LUY78jE_YejK22Cf9rM fNBrQA7EJTFxfRsxfCtRC1z8TWXR5sMXmo7mJsJORCqoiZTobtociw8FQSVy dRNS.IrLHtNd0TVZiCIM8HqC.fDieCKAtp8gx94xUCn1nejncI5Bg0B1bCfE 1mM.F8ogq_LYyG185HDV1eZR0FeLt3NdmVszXXmw3NXmn4Ql0IUXJvK.8LUi Wab5t_BeKUhTIRFxM70xMAId1gLPMfV3OlJRnAhx7WSu4XaDhqg_WY.W8T8L 8tPx8pNcg2OZCTENlRKsEWSZOnHwaSfyHO6rsIh0lrZw3CY936gve6ySaeyg WGeuP2bUD5w1LBIVqmE_zmlEC X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:15:57 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: Darrick Uwins Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: page removal Message-ID: <20170423151557.7b98ce51@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git20 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:16:05 -0000 Hi, just in case you shouldn't be subscribed to the list: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2017-April/277211.html I only replied to the list. 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Thread-Topic: How to create custom meta-port ? 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Since a package is not yet available for virtualbox under FreeBSD 12, I had= to build the emulators/virtualbox-ose port. I chose to build the port with= GCC5 and QT4 (both already installed via pkg). What I would like to do is save time in future with a custom meta-package t= hat lumps together the tarballs for virtualbox-ose, gcc5, and qt4. Effectiv= ely, the installing the meta via 'pkg add' would have the same effect as 'p= kg install virtualbox-ose gcc5 qt4'. Is that possible ? Thanks for any information. Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 23 22:18:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96A5D4C66D for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 22:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CABA795 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 22:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:18:28 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-92-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.92.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 878663CBF9; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:18:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v3NMIQZo003923; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:18:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:18:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create custom meta-port ? Message-Id: <20170424001826.192b25cf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with D19BC68342C X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1163 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 22:18:37 -0000 On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 22:12:11 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I am on FreeBSD 12-current amd64. > > Since a package is not yet available for virtualbox under FreeBSD 12, > I had to build the emulators/virtualbox-ose port. I chose to build > the port with GCC5 and QT4 (both already installed via pkg). > > What I would like to do is save time in future with a custom meta-package > that lumps together the tarballs for virtualbox-ose, gcc5, and qt4. > Effectively, the installing the meta via 'pkg add' would have the > same effect as 'pkg install virtualbox-ose gcc5 qt4'. > > Is that possible ? Thanks for any information. Check for runtime dependencies: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/makefile-depend.html Ports in general: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 07:13:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83D7D4D79E for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 481AA879 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id w64so53849154wma.0 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:13:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZbUk27VnK2S/gV73Y1IivRsMwjGEH4bzlfSaUZJwutM=; b=O/lSbOWW0kGLS4u6ChQgbv21UKugA2BgdQp4NaUT0hLz+Su7cFQZn5ZLMQBzeWUTdN 9mLLto/2XutgUtNw0t8R3TK/95tXjp71vexPYZkCiK6czNhtTxGI+jDMLOvLzP1B9kPZ iuPLVEktCXF6KN1LGQZ6WRqjKnj/myiUafOLmycTcObGEMHoOJPRHeDk32nn/n2F+KKn K1xloXd6MElUx0lB/PsM23Xp4ly9SqnrpeTbqZaNwUgWm1zcpZzyrTIqdMNrQBfeZIdF ztHzq3GUsjf+VtkMZObHf0Fg3EdReV+3/j4tC0nteYS883BA5hgLwL+yXgYT5pNgk0y7 8gDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZbUk27VnK2S/gV73Y1IivRsMwjGEH4bzlfSaUZJwutM=; b=gT6SNikkLmtNe6+DkzTNV0CUzNa2Duo6WVw55GAey/NTQNLRYbh8tGtwq0hucNzCMg IFzyCId9jeJjIChaSqoeXEOgL8o0+/6GMIWyTX/AQp9JZ640OFNuPkMyV9rXYu5mbMbc 1MqC0wLM9E4KUxI7sT9uhqLx0GLITxwT/2NxsLEvm+eK+lRYfQGOGvAtwEwAn48Y7zty B//Lp2Kw0Z10FwWDAPt4nR+XAeoZxalhxYP0zenrHBPkaMAKLkdQEouu3z4E16JpHJwD QowqQicSksdMnKCz7CILLOgKWxXhjSN9gQfKOSql2rLrW6pxtMiTv+cdM7wZS1IrvIEj xd6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7fVflPKMsnye1iZSdaX1OlHTGN38oI6vwKZbAEb03zwC71jAFO /v2fqhz80aIzlSnhI94Li1Sm9T7EQQ== X-Received: by 10.28.151.213 with SMTP id z204mr8664321wmd.48.1493018033537; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:13:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.136.51 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:13:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:13:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Can not add foreign key constraint To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:13:55 -0000 Hello, Not sure if this is a FreeBSD issue specific with the Mysql port I'm trying to add a table to an existing database. I'm wanting it to get one of it's fields from an already existing table. I've done this before in this database. This works: CREATE TABLE `virtual_users` ( `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `domain_id` int(11) NOT NULL, `user` varchar(40) NOT NULL, `password` varchar(128) NOT NULL, `quota` bigint(20) NOT NULL DEFAULT 256, `quota_messages` int(11) NOT NULL DEFAULT 0, PRIMARY KEY (`id`), UNIQUE KEY `user` (`user`), FOREIGN KEY (domain_id) REFERENCES virtual_domains(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8; This does not: CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `lastauth` ( `user` varchar(40) NOT NULL, `remote_ip` varchar(18) NOT NULL, `timestamp` timestamp NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP ON UPDATE CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, PRIMARY KEY (`user`), FOREIGN KEY (user) REFERENCES virtual_users(user) ON DELETE CASCADE ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8; Can anyone spot the situation? Thanks. Dave. 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[49.177.162.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q85sm28818977pfj.112.2017.04.24.00.22.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Accessing UFS partitions from a Macbook From: Felix Friedlander In-Reply-To: <97.AF.29375.8DC6CF85@dnvrco-omsmta02> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:22:36 +1000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20170420233840.N9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421011323.Q9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421021427.F9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <97.AF.29375.8DC6CF85@dnvrco-omsmta02> To: Thomas Mueller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:22:42 -0000 >> Considering how BSD-ish it seems in Terminal - df, du and other = commands >> working as expected - I was a bit surprised that it doesn't support = UFS >> natively, given its heritage. When I first ran mount it complained - = as >> will FreeBSD without an fstab entry - about needing the -t switch, = but >> 'mount -t ufs' didn't complain about that but a (not) missing = directory. >=20 > There might be differences resulting in incompatibility between the = versions of UFS in various BSDs, and Mac OS main filesystem is HFS+. >=20 > I noticed, after downloading DragonFlyBSD installation image, dd'ing = to USB stick, and booting, it could read GPT partition table but was = unable to mount any FreeBSD and NetBSD partitions. >=20 > Last DragonFlyBSD image I downloaded and dd'ed to USB stick didn't = even get through the boot. >=20 > FreeBSD and NetBSD were unable to mount the DragonFly USB-stick = partition. >=20 > There is also the issue of BSD disklabels when using MBR, and one BSD = not being able to read the other's disklabel. OS X did originally support UFS1 (in Disk Utility as well as on the = command line), but it dropped that support many versions ago. UFS2, the = normal version for FreeBSD, was (AFAIK) never supported. Fun fact: OS X also had undocumented, partial support for ZFS at one = stage, but it was dropped - presumably because of a legal dispute with = Oracle. --=20 Felix Friedlander From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 07:31:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B0ED4DDAC for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05A4EFDA for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D71ADC118 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/D71ADC118; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Can not add foreign key constraint To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 08:31:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UTDqon7VjKinDkw376pFqfuIq0QfaI5V7" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:31:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UTDqon7VjKinDkw376pFqfuIq0QfaI5V7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Mxo3r4a9KoTXg87J8Jgsi02cVuCdHfuXq"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can not add foreign key constraint References: In-Reply-To: --Mxo3r4a9KoTXg87J8Jgsi02cVuCdHfuXq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/04/2017 08:13, David Mehler wrote: > Not sure if this is a FreeBSD issue specific with the Mysql port I'm > trying to add a table to an existing database. I'm wanting it to get > one of it's fields from an already existing table. I've done this > before in this database. This works: >=20 > CREATE TABLE `virtual_users` ( > `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, > `domain_id` int(11) NOT NULL, > `user` varchar(40) NOT NULL, > `password` varchar(128) NOT NULL, > `quota` bigint(20) NOT NULL DEFAULT 256, > `quota_messages` int(11) NOT NULL DEFAULT 0, > PRIMARY KEY (`id`), > UNIQUE KEY `user` (`user`), > FOREIGN KEY (domain_id) REFERENCES virtual_domains(id) ON DELETE CASC= ADE > ) ENGINE=3DInnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=3Dutf8; >=20 >=20 > This does not: >=20 > CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `lastauth` ( > `user` varchar(40) NOT NULL, > `remote_ip` varchar(18) NOT NULL, > `timestamp` timestamp NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP ON UPDATE > CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, > PRIMARY KEY (`user`), > FOREIGN KEY (user) REFERENCES virtual_users(user) ON DELETE CASCADE > ) ENGINE=3DInnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=3Dutf8; >=20 > Can anyone spot the situation? This is a question better put on one of the MySQL support sites -- it's not really anything FreeBSD related. I do know mysql has a somewhat lacking approach to foreign keys -- it's only with InnoDB recently that it's had anything like reasonable support, and even now it allows but ignores one of the two standard ways of adding a foreign key in a table declaration. Try using an integer field as the foreign key -- the primary key of the referenced table is generally the best choice. 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Bell" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:24:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: page removal To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:25:00 -0000 On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:28:25 +0000, Darrick Uwins wrote: > >https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ > 2004-June/050247.html > > Your post from today will be in the archive and it will be published by > Nabble, too. > > http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/freebsd-questions-f3696945.html > > So there will be several new links to the post you want to see removed, > including my reply to your request. > > "The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, > remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence > of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the > Internet." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect > > An around 13 years old link isn't really present anymore, until you > remember that there is this oldish link. > > It would have been smarter to ask the one who runs the list off-list. I > doubt that this person would remove a post from the archive, but at > least you wouldn't have caused attention. In general posts could be > duplicated by Gmane or Nabble and anything like that. > > Btw. how should the admin ensure, that you are the same person? > > I've seen such requests a few times on several mailing lists and I'm > always surprised about the lack of understanding, how mailing lists > work. > > Regards, > Ralf > On the bright side for our friend seeking this deletion, curiosity got the better of me and I took at look at the post he wants removed; I cannot for the life of me figure out how that post is in any way controversial. I mean, I can't imagine *why* the OP could possibly want it removed. -- Chris "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe." -- Carl Sagan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 09:29:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE409D4C012 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from NAM01-BY2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092001057.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.1.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B11B7E6C; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; 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SRVR:SN1NAM01HT140; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(444000031); SRVR:SN1NAM01HT140; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:SN1NAM01HT140; x-forefront-prvs: 0287BBA78D spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 24 Apr 2017 09:29:14.5872 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN1NAM01HT140 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:29:17 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 08:31:19 +0100, Matthew Seaman stated: > On 24/04/2017 08:13, David Mehler wrote: > > Not sure if this is a FreeBSD issue specific with the Mysql port I'm > > trying to add a table to an existing database. I'm wanting it to get > > one of it's fields from an already existing table. I've done this > > before in this database. This works: > >=20 > > CREATE TABLE `virtual_users` ( > > `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, > > `domain_id` int(11) NOT NULL, > > `user` varchar(40) NOT NULL, > > `password` varchar(128) NOT NULL, > > `quota` bigint(20) NOT NULL DEFAULT 256, > > `quota_messages` int(11) NOT NULL DEFAULT 0, > > PRIMARY KEY (`id`), > > UNIQUE KEY `user` (`user`), > > FOREIGN KEY (domain_id) REFERENCES virtual_domains(id) ON DELETE > > CASCADE ) ENGINE=3DInnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=3Dutf8; > >=20 > >=20 > > This does not: > >=20 > > CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `lastauth` ( > > `user` varchar(40) NOT NULL, > > `remote_ip` varchar(18) NOT NULL, > > `timestamp` timestamp NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP ON UPDATE > > CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, > > PRIMARY KEY (`user`), > > FOREIGN KEY (user) REFERENCES virtual_users(user) ON DELETE CASCADE > > ) ENGINE=3DInnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=3Dutf8; > >=20 > > Can anyone spot the situation? =20 >=20 > This is a question better put on one of the MySQL support sites -- > it's not really anything FreeBSD related. I do know mysql has a > somewhat lacking approach to foreign keys -- it's only with InnoDB > recently that it's had anything like reasonable support, and even now > it allows but ignores one of the two standard ways of adding a > foreign key in a table declaration. >=20 > Try using an integer field as the foreign key -- the primary key of > the referenced table is generally the best choice. I have never used 'foreign keys' myself; however, I did find these two articles regarding them; http://www.mysqltutorial.org/mysql-foreign-key/ https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/create-table-foreign-keys.html --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 09:44:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1A9D4C686 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christofer.c.bell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x232.google.com (mail-qt0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 961651615 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christofer.c.bell@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x232.google.com with SMTP id m36so108564279qtb.0 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 02:44:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kvFtZiPOazB6uV/U7MHgqmZng0dDirlt+2EoQMDnKK4=; b=tUxB0+WMN2OA+Q8J1lcapH2twsz5puO5UeXg7N75ip4hWuMwVsOoFerminzbZnw+ck eHp15I5bVMqablvVWz4aBWBXR9NBhNNaJec9fG1bVylsduvgb9yRY+Uu0i/gZaacyTqT n+2viS6ZIq34eeW8JhIbsRqei4PBqs34gBN1VPLOYnskpIaqMdTPnQFJQS6G/Qjw5s4G GI+qwQVOkxmKR21nRGOIyI2QCjHmel5m9qkcPSfleDbIWYyqSx53uujAmBlyjTjslKyE 3y0roMtR/vXOt29KfKAPkcZ+jbtczozPe8H4E/jYuFmg5NqhSJURJ4SmzNhk01+YJ2hb 0o3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kvFtZiPOazB6uV/U7MHgqmZng0dDirlt+2EoQMDnKK4=; b=oGmekqDFKZxt/ytFWo//JUNMnhUM1MPs4I7d0/ZD3QKyJnIzN5DVdD5F4w8KCNG9DG QF1SAW6VoTUGM+Z4yLRzjhGJ61EIuazHykszjLVAEge5g55Ul1q/+cYb3Bz5tL6FQrmS xILYiCLgH5tAET6VhcXab9nw2WIxfl2JZHK6eN2U5x0nDpHMixqepw/IfeGXPtvOPqnD wEs4DMmUd1EixO3u9ShBR3iKxQBFqLD5T9RHCoECDDCa1qS5eC7RK51sN4iozt/sdSKi q0W2J4cuI8MSAGQqH101VqR2TUiL7460hsGy0QFIhT2Tj5nE8skPgCv7F6IKA5+DgnMe UTog== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6/uL6IOl4fa0yA6S6dRqjk/KfwnBjj0p34FAcrfzw6Ukokuy7e KB2oONWjKvY882WzH6RHF1aqjHZBtw== X-Received: by 10.200.45.167 with SMTP id p36mr27786755qta.265.1493027040745; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 02:44:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.150.157 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 02:43:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20170420233840.N9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421011323.Q9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: "Christofer C. Bell" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:43:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Accessing UFS partitions from a Macbook To: Tomek CEDRO Cc: Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Jon Radel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:44:03 -0000 On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > Remember about native SSH on macOS (see System Preferences / Sharing / > Remote Login) that could give you nice way to get the job done > remotely :-) > Tomek has already mentioned it here, but in case it wasn't clear, turning on Remote Login under Sharing (you can use your Daughter's account) enables scp/sftp (and, of course, ssh). So instead of plugging in the backup drive, you can just upload the files from your own computer using scp or sftp. Since your backup drive is UFS and you're posting here, I assume it's FreeBSD. You can just use the command line tools in FreeBSD to send the files over. Alternatively, if you're already running Samba on your FreeBSD machine, note that macOS can act as a client to that. You'd just connect in Finder (smb://ip.address/share_name/) and copy the files over using Finder. While macOS can't read FreeBSD's UFS, it's a nifty little UNIX[1] server in its own right. It's been a certified UNIX(r) since 2007's Leopard release (version 10.7). [1] https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3627.htm -- Chris "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe." -- Carl Sagan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 10:18:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C731D4D26B for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm29-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm29-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F021599D for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1493028887; bh=nSZpRF3EAU4Qp2MohJj8lHtJ7lOGsT1Rn1BSkxKdnmo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=H3mpYM0TEUA0CrOkErVx6+NEwGElUBjclNkZethOA3HDFGNHPP1Er5M0ryksD+hYb5s22v4HdVQSg0FaQbcUZgWCN/TNU98FimpBEacKhxdO5nbb9Wt29sqhHRNb4tn0qoh54YoB4+qqOBZP7yy7fs+pfC740ovAmr+xG41716SIIo16eWmCPpTBDU8gMJeYiXT1NDeXd80TAKXj3JzmiJywbY/aK15O1NslT6lOB8I/oHt5tKhtSzss3AaCsVZMZ+3wCIC5OJz9ztfrCIZ2Mc/5WSrpa2WBkusB4twhIwTSwsiqCTWqijj9qoFmOCdyGOSk0PWuAcjIgbOYv1tu7Q== Received: from [212.82.98.57] by nm29.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2017 10:14:47 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.112] by tm10.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2017 10:14:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp149.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2017 10:14:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 588069.45871.bm@smtp149.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: tqp7JeQVM1kgwh9ud5vcdQ7sJt6N5Bsfd9noHBD7HLJxsql nCobW.9REZ_1EjbSEttryErexDXuXDV3DnXytH63Ufx0sSmCZBirzXCghXWh wdco5OMk3RvXro91c2fgeUF1w9CQHekVjj5s7kfIfBrNmyoU9MyQ8buhsJS5 nsERdFsMTv62_6ovbrzRrVm7RFiQSQBJ6ie73.gCnbty261UtBCEV8QJlL8c U8iB34NI4XRjdoFaUha3RmB5bUeF.OZByU2g9sDhdbweRed7iA4hwtEB7kXc 7QpW4MlECfSq3AXN8IWHJrEY8DwAxkALnQ4cdUfPveYKTPtUrWwBdfWoJQ8V .vVRpl0_3PM5DD8r64gQKwngJCNN154JUfJ9_ApQNkVhySkYILlLKAG3u7t9 2jXL6_GSPAHHBEG3yVvcmzSo0MJ7s5HALZktuIdpHGFAj6A6Lt89T97kmeHn 2z.ixEZ1P.KnoNF5KkRCEIJnUI5956Xg9uXu9X7fSNKwTL6YeSf14X7grHmI Aqr1dugsES1MmM6XItglOCaqF.RTJBENR7wl3_F7BNSJvtcVDfxwxZ6mwQpm EsLHUCm._v.tcCoYE3Fi6yPSy X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:14:48 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: page removal Message-ID: <20170424121448.183ceec6@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <20170423150728.199dffab@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git20 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:18:19 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:24:39 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: >On the bright side for our friend seeking this deletion, curiosity got >the better of me and I took at look at the post he wants removed; I >cannot for the life of me figure out how that post is in any way >controversial. I mean, I can't imagine *why* the OP could possibly >want it removed. Hi, the OP and I shared several mails off-list. Among several explanations, he's now aware of "Note that this also means that messages sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are archived in perpetuity. When protecting privacy is a concern, consider using a disposable secondary email address and posting only public information." - https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/eresources-mail.html Unfortunately the off-list discussion obviously was fruitless. IIUC he contacted somebody else. As a matter of principle he wants to have control over his information. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 11:29:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97BAD4D75A for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D6C1688 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:29:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:27 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-92-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.92.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41C433CBF9; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v3OBTQp7002011; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: page removal Message-Id: <20170424132926.ca2fc5b1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170424121448.183ceec6@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170423150728.199dffab@archlinux.localdomain> <20170424121448.183ceec6@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 7942D68342C X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1224 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:29:32 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:14:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > Unfortunately the off-list discussion obviously was fruitless. IIUC he > contacted somebody else. As a matter of principle he wants to have > control over his information. The main problem is that there are too many mirrors of the information he wants removed. Let's say the FreeBSD list admin deletes the message from the database and the web. But what about the many other mirrors? And what about users who locally store messages? Even worse, what if such a user decides to "re-upload" the message in question? Sadly, removing information from the Internet won't happen. The Elders of the Internet told me so. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:46:06 -0000 On Sat, April 22, 2017 12:46, Heikki Lindholm wrote: > > Try MBR partitioning first (instead of GPT). Installer DVD should boot > when selected from your BIOS boot device selector (F12 during boot or > something like that usually). > > When I boot from the 1386 DVD I get this: Attempting to boot from CD-ROM CD Loader 1.2 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER. . . Found Relocating the loader and the BTX Starting the BTX loader BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02 Consoles: internal video/keyboard BIOS CD is cd0 BIOS drive C: is disk0 BIOS 639kB/208723kB available memory |/-\| <=== this part takes a very, very long time. FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 (root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org. Thu Sep 29 03:37:57 UTC 2016) Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf can't open 'boot/menu-commands.4th': no sucj file or directory Error while including /boot/menu.rc, in the line: include /boot/menu-commands.4th | / hang/halt/freeze/whatever. . . This behaviour is not what I started out with on this system. The first time I tried to install I got the usual boot menu and the install proceeded up to the point where copying kernel.tzx failed. Now I cannot seem to even get the boot menu to display. I have created a usb boot image as well using dd if=pathto.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M oflag=direct and the unit simply goes to the hdd even when I select the USB device to boot from. I would love to get an MBR based media but that seems unavailable with FreeBSD-11. At least I can discover no way to accomplish this. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sat, April 22, 2017 12:46, Heikki Lindholm wrote: > >> Try MBR partitioning first (instead of GPT). Installer DVD should boot >> when selected from your BIOS boot device selector (F12 during boot or >> something like that usually). >> >> > > When I boot from the i386 DVD I get this: > > Attempting to boot from CD-ROM > CD Loader 1.2 > > Building the boot loader arguments > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER. . . Found > Relocating the loader and the BTX > Starting the BTX loader > > BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02 > Consoles: internal video/keyboard > BIOS CD is cd0 > BIOS drive C: is disk0 > BIOS 639kB/208723kB available memory > > |/-\| <=== this part takes a very, very long time. > > FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > (root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org. Thu Sep 29 03:37:57 UTC 2016) > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > can't open 'boot/menu-commands.4th': no sucj file or directory > Error while including /boot/menu.rc, in the line: > include /boot/menu-commands.4th > | > / > hang/halt/freeze/whatever. . . > > This behavior is not what I started out with on this system. The > first time I tried to install I got the usual boot menu and the > install proceeded up to the point where copying kernel.tzx failed. > Now I cannot seem to even get the boot menu to display. > > I have created a usb boot image as well using dd if=pathto.img > of=/dev/sdb bs=1M oflag=direct and the unit simply goes to the hdd > even when I select the USB device to boot from. > > I would love to get an MBR based media but that seems unavailable with > FreeBSD-11. At least I can discover no way to accomplish this. > > Symptoms may be caused by bad dvd media or dvd r/w hardware. That long pause is a good indicator. Recreate your dvd disk using a never before used blank one. You could also trying burning the dvd media on different dvd r/w hardware. I have 11.0 installed on a i386 mbr hard drive. I used the cdrom1.iso because I don't have dvd r/w hardware. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 15:49:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232DDD4DB02 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77B35BA6 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v3OFmnpO005598; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:48:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:48:49 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Christofer C. Bell" cc: Tomek CEDRO , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Jon Radel , Felix Friedlander , Thomas Mueller Subject: Re: Accessing UFS partitions from a Macbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170425010036.Q34672@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20170420233840.N9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421011323.Q9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:49:54 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:49:02 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:43:40 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > > > > Remember about native SSH on macOS (see System Preferences / Sharing / > > Remote Login) that could give you nice way to get the job done > > remotely :-) > > > > Tomek has already mentioned it here, but in case it wasn't clear, turning > on Remote Login under Sharing (you can use your Daughter's account) enables > scp/sftp (and, of course, ssh). So instead of plugging in the backup > drive, you can just upload the files from your own computer using scp or > sftp. Since your backup drive is UFS and you're posting here, I assume > it's FreeBSD. You can just use the command line tools in FreeBSD to send > the files over. Exactly, as I figured from Tomek telling me where to go to set it up :) Definitely my preferred environment where available. > Alternatively, if you're already running Samba on your FreeBSD machine, > note that macOS can act as a client to that. You'd just connect in Finder > (smb://ip.address/share_name/) and copy the files over using Finder. Thanks for another useful clue Chris, and also to Felix and Tom for further discussion. So many halpful and cluey people on this list .. > While macOS can't read FreeBSD's UFS, it's a nifty little UNIX[1] server in > its own right. It's been a certified UNIX(r) since 2007's Leopard release > (version 10.7). > > [1] https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3627.htm OTOH, it doesn't bother me at all that FreeBSD is not so blessed :) I had a lot of fun in my 30 or so minutes, learning three-finger swiping and such to get around, and once running Terminal, I felt quite at home. She's since said "Dad, no more than 10 gigs, please!" so I find my 40GiB msdosfs partition is more than enough anyway, as is a 16GB memstick, but I've learned a lot from this thread. thanks, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 20:06:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09305D4EED5 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1C5FA08 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43AF611F9; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:06:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7e48rr0iR9Z; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B81A60263; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:06:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1493064399; bh=fmGfzk2fKMXnjj3FrFmhxKZxAZxxMnguLM7qRaMdK6k=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=O6/4hqZqH0JWvQRK8MxYVSzBhXLuPiC7mPBwLPODw0LmdWqygORTXM75F8skbefgo QU2Ldx0hiz4Q1PlBUSXzEz96f9jJNVBZTB1bPw+2CWNo3OrWHF7bZDAkqYNwt2y8PL 8Veynyq8CkXTHjF9NmtkhPrMqYkfZGSoRCkFGz1zMYpFvKPEhchNZghpDLfG74FRgv W39CWeIq3tRk9k3cmMzyq1izogFDxiRy4miBvxZAVAjEwEHa/X7mjv7RiLoiG1xVKm Y7UXJA083NLj+nV40Urk0GCdr6J/Z+EghnPlDzv+lJ+I59JgMrt2UcNG8DbSh3EX50 lQhO3OvKc8FDw== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:06:39 -0400 Message-ID: <12a08670f70fb398b5aa09cbd3cc4846.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <58FE1CE5.7030900@gmail.com> References: <95963a8c2b078850f983da664671e6a4.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <58FE1CE5.7030900@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:06:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD-11 on i386 From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Ernie Luzar" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:06:44 -0000 On Mon, April 24, 2017 11:42, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > Symptoms may be caused by bad dvd media or dvd r/w hardware. > That long pause is a good indicator. > Recreate your dvd disk using a never before used blank one. > You could also trying burning the dvd media on different dvd r/w > hardware. > > I have 11.0 installed on a i386 mbr hard drive. I used the cdrom1.iso > because I don't have dvd r/w hardware. > It seems that my difficulties were caused by a dvd drive that exhibited an intermittent failure on write. I recreated the i386 install dvd using a USB plug in dvd r/w drive and the new media successfully installed on the target host. Thanks to all who replied for the help. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:10:14 -0000 How does one drop out of slim to the console? I installed FreeBSD-11 on a spare laptop and I am having some difficulty logging on through slim. I have installed mate and slim but when I run slim it prompts for a login and then fails with 'unable to execute login'; or something similar. However when this happens I do not know how to get out of the graphical logon screen without rebooting the system. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > How does one drop out of slim to the console? I installed FreeBSD-11 > on a spare laptop and I am having some difficulty logging on through > slim. I have installed mate and slim but when I run slim it prompts > for a login and then fails with 'unable to execute login'; or > something similar. > > However when this happens I do not know how to get out of the > graphical logon screen without rebooting the system. > > Does F2 work? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 20:45:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC13D4ED2C for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13153164A for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:45:36 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-92-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.92.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D878C3CBF9; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:45:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v3OKjYK6002326; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:45:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:45:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: New question Message-Id: <20170424224534.91448acb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <07197ae8f00a48f5ea7d098fb75145ca.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <07197ae8f00a48f5ea7d098fb75145ca.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 04DAB683BEF X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1208 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:45:45 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:10:10 -0400, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > How does one drop out of slim to the console? I installed FreeBSD-11 > on a spare laptop and I am having some difficulty logging on through > slim. I have installed mate and slim but when I run slim it prompts > for a login and then fails with 'unable to execute login'; or > something similar. > > However when this happens I do not know how to get out of the > graphical logon screen without rebooting the system. Solution A: switch consoles with Ctrl+Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... Solution B: do A, followed by "killall -9 slim" This of course doesn't work anymore when you're using sc "as" the console driver, so you must use "vt". This _might_ indtroduce new problems with character sizes, fonts, and locale support. :-) Sidenote: In normal text mode, you use Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... to switch between the virtual consoles, the "Print / Sys Rq" key can be used to iterate through the consoles. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 21:25:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA48D4EB77 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AFB61327 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254C6611F9; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rr6zb7h0fpcc; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7779607D3; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1493069111; bh=XBIS8r84RxGYYdXlL/VTczz+ayiu4e2jcUq7c/R4Tgo=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=Eib35mmPXUuYHcfkyOtXh66oVJ93f7iG95tTRY3TcVeLAeg7kKtR6SMB2vKomn3/c 1dc5TVgz9C0ZVONbUn271Oefo636JRHpp2FiTlhwWHpQRESbsuB8vpdANHJEVaBQd5 0I20AOg6YKr/6GfuiHdBFUz2bXj692cgidJc/xQlq81bxwT8eQFtNzVk5rmjHPe+8A svVbob0+ltrW3/BGDSnA8BXmab3HMjiu9odUvlxxn9RhRwoJbVIHqNYlXPvzzcvXY8 MqWdFv2K78Y/7rrSsBH2J7wM2dX5Y3mswxw3GuIeVAkLi6R12Ah6Cn/CLq3ooTLm2q WeONHIEHvZdeg== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:11 -0400 Message-ID: <5793f2002bc6eff17b2831bede1056e6.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <20170424224534.91448acb.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <07197ae8f00a48f5ea7d098fb75145ca.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20170424224534.91448acb.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:11 -0400 Subject: Re: New question on Mate and FreeBSD From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Polytropon" Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:25:15 -0000 On Mon, April 24, 2017 16:45, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:10:10 -0400, James B. Byrne via > freebsd-questions wrote: >> How does one drop out of slim to the console? I installed FreeBSD-11 >> on a spare laptop and I am having some difficulty logging on through >> slim. I have installed mate and slim but when I run slim it prompts >> for a login and then fails with 'unable to execute login'; or >> something similar. >> >> However when this happens I do not know how to get out of the >> graphical logon screen without rebooting the system. > > Solution A: switch consoles with Ctrl+Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... > > Solution B: do A, followed by "killall -9 slim" > > This of course doesn't work anymore when you're using sc "as" > the console driver, so you must use "vt". This _might_ indtroduce > new problems with character sizes, fonts, and locale support. :-) > > Sidenote: In normal text mode, you use Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... > to switch between the virtual consoles, the "Print / Sys Rq" key > can be used to iterate through the consoles. > > My usual practice on CentOS is to configure the host to boot into text mode and then run startx from the console to start the graphical desktop. I have installed mate on the FreeBSD system but cannot seem to hit upon the correct manner to start it. Well, it sort of starts but what shows up is not recognisable as desktop. This is just ignorance on my part. I had similar problems when I decided to use mate instead of gnome when I was testing RHEL/CentOS7. However, if someone else has already done this then a recipe with the requisite packages and suitable configuration would not be refused. I can live easily without the pretty start up graphical interface if that is going to cause other issues. P.S. Does PF1 == F1 (function key 1) or does this refer to something else? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 22:17:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C15ED4EB3B for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB2A991 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 59551CB8CC6; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:47:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:47:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <50747.128.135.52.6.1493070427.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <5793f2002bc6eff17b2831bede1056e6.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <07197ae8f00a48f5ea7d098fb75145ca.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20170424224534.91448acb.freebsd@edvax.de> <5793f2002bc6eff17b2831bede1056e6.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:47:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: New question on Mate and FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "Polytropon" , byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:17:44 -0000 On Mon, April 24, 2017 4:25 pm, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Mon, April 24, 2017 16:45, Polytropon wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:10:10 -0400, James B. Byrne via >> freebsd-questions wrote: >>> How does one drop out of slim to the console? I installed FreeBSD-11 >>> on a spare laptop and I am having some difficulty logging on through >>> slim. I have installed mate and slim but when I run slim it prompts >>> for a login and then fails with 'unable to execute login'; or >>> something similar. >>> >>> However when this happens I do not know how to get out of the >>> graphical logon screen without rebooting the system. >> >> Solution A: switch consoles with Ctrl+Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... >> >> Solution B: do A, followed by "killall -9 slim" >> >> This of course doesn't work anymore when you're using sc "as" >> the console driver, so you must use "vt". This _might_ indtroduce >> new problems with character sizes, fonts, and locale support. :-) >> >> Sidenote: In normal text mode, you use Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... >> to switch between the virtual consoles, the "Print / Sys Rq" key >> can be used to iterate through the consoles. >> >> > > My usual practice on CentOS is to configure the host to boot into text > mode and then run startx from the console to start the graphical > desktop. I have installed mate on the FreeBSD system but cannot seem > to hit upon the correct manner to start it. Well, it sort of starts > but what shows up is not recognisable as desktop. This is just > ignorance on my part. I had similar problems when I decided to use > mate instead of gnome when I was testing RHEL/CentOS7. > > However, if someone else has already done this then a recipe with the > requisite packages and suitable configuration would not be refused. I > can live easily without the pretty start up graphical interface if > that is going to cause other issues. Here is what I did: pkg install xorg pkg install mate - each of them is metaport that brings a bunch of actual packages. E-mail me off the list if you want whole list of packages I have on my box. Then I boot the same as you into "runlevel 3" ;-) In which you can access multiple virtual consoles as usually (ctrl+alt+[F1,F@,...]). In my ~/.xinitrc file I have: exec mate-session I log in as regular user "myself" (that is account that has that ~/.xinitrc file). And as myself I execute the command exec startx (I prefer "exec startx" so that if my X session is killed, say by someone at my keyboard going to virtual console which I started it from and pressing CTRL+C then he doesn't get my shell, it just quits upon killing x session and presents login prompt - I believe everybody does that). That is all, such simple my life is. Valeri > > P.S. > > Does PF1 == F1 (function key 1) or does this refer to something else? > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. 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Byrne" To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, "Polytropon" , "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:29:02 -0000 On Mon, April 24, 2017 17:47, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Here is what I did: > > pkg install xorg > pkg install mate > > - each of them is metaport that brings a bunch of actual packages. > E-mail > me off the list if you want whole list of packages I have on my box. > > Then I boot the same as you into "runlevel 3" ;-) In which you can > access > multiple virtual consoles as usually (ctrl+alt+[F1,F@,...]). In my > ~/.xinitrc file I have: > > exec mate-session > > I log in as regular user "myself" (that is account that has that > ~/.xinitrc file). And as myself I execute the command > > exec startx > > (I prefer "exec startx" so that if my X session is killed, say by > someone > at my keyboard going to virtual console which I started it from and > pressing CTRL+C then he doesn't get my shell, it just quits upon > killing x > session and presents login prompt - I believe everybody does that). > > That is all, such simple my life is. > > Valeri > Thanks. Works great. *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 25 06:56:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0699BD4FA54 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp1.irishbroadband.ie (smtp2.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C62A4788 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp1.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1d2u5l-00064Y-La; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:36:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1d2u6k-0003A0-1K; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:37:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:36:49 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: New question on Mate and FreeBSD Message-Id: <20170425073649.cdaf1e0a650c73a4555530ed@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <50747.128.135.52.6.1493070427.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <07197ae8f00a48f5ea7d098fb75145ca.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20170424224534.91448acb.freebsd@edvax.de> <5793f2002bc6eff17b2831bede1056e6.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <50747.128.135.52.6.1493070427.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:56:34 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:47:07 -0500 (CDT) "Valeri Galtsev" wrote: > exec startx > > (I prefer "exec startx" so that if my X session is killed, say by someone > at my keyboard going to virtual console which I started it from and > pressing CTRL+C then he doesn't get my shell, it just quits upon killing x > session and presents login prompt - I believe everybody does that). 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 25 12:22:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4DCD4E000 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F897B6C for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:22:12 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-211-20.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.211.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42E763CBF9; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:22:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v3PCMACl002039; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:22:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:22:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: New question on Mate and FreeBSD Message-Id: <20170425142210.16ab619a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5793f2002bc6eff17b2831bede1056e6.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <07197ae8f00a48f5ea7d098fb75145ca.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20170424224534.91448acb.freebsd@edvax.de> <5793f2002bc6eff17b2831bede1056e6.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 5CD6469F28D X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1267 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:22:30 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:11 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Mon, April 24, 2017 16:45, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:10:10 -0400, James B. Byrne via > > freebsd-questions wrote: > >> How does one drop out of slim to the console? I installed FreeBSD-11 > >> on a spare laptop and I am having some difficulty logging on through > >> slim. I have installed mate and slim but when I run slim it prompts > >> for a login and then fails with 'unable to execute login'; or > >> something similar. > >> > >> However when this happens I do not know how to get out of the > >> graphical logon screen without rebooting the system. > > > > Solution A: switch consoles with Ctrl+Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... > > > > Solution B: do A, followed by "killall -9 slim" > > > > This of course doesn't work anymore when you're using sc "as" > > the console driver, so you must use "vt". This _might_ indtroduce > > new problems with character sizes, fonts, and locale support. :-) > > > > Sidenote: In normal text mode, you use Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... > > to switch between the virtual consoles, the "Print / Sys Rq" key > > can be used to iterate through the consoles. > > > > > > My usual practice on CentOS is to configure the host to boot into text > mode and then run startx from the console to start the graphical > desktop. This can also be done on FreeBSD. Both a display manager and the actual X session (running a window manager or a whole desktop environment) can be initiated from the text mode. > I have installed mate on the FreeBSD system but cannot seem > to hit upon the correct manner to start it. Well, it sort of starts > but what shows up is not recognisable as desktop. This is just > ignorance on my part. I had similar problems when I decided to use > mate instead of gnome when I was testing RHEL/CentOS7. I have recently switched an installation of a Gnome 2 "destroyed by update" to MATE (and slim instead of gdm), now ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession get honored as expected. Interestingly, some of the Gnome settings were "inherited", but others needed to be set up manually. > Does PF1 == F1 (function key 1) or does this refer to something else? Sorry, that's my typical "IBM speak": The name PF key refers to the correct term "programmable function key", but PF1 and F1 are exactly the same thing. Must be the result of using a keyboard where the actual labels were PF1, PF2, and so on... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@harte-lyne.ca Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:01:32 -0000 In my frustration with getting FreeBSD installed on it I forgot where this device was going to be placed and selected encryption for the entire ZFS install. I now realise that simply is not going to work. Having already extensively configured the unit I am wondering if there is some way to undo this or if I am faced with a complete reinstall. Sigh. . . -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 25 17:22:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9747ED50D8E for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A5C2118C for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:21:19 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-211-20.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.211.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E43F3CC56; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:21:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v3PHLHHh002120; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:21:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:21:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Is it possible to enforce noexec for Wine on ntfs partition ? Message-Id: <20170425192117.c1b04abc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with EC44E683BA7 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1225 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:22:35 -0000 On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:56:04 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > I would ideally like the following behavior enforced by the driver : > for regular files > (i.e. non-directory files), Wine cannot execute the binary from the > NTFS volume. If > any user wishes to execute the binary under Wine, he must first copy > the file to > somewhere outside the NTFS volume (possibly $HOME). When you execute programs with wine, it just reads ("copies") the file from the mounted NTFS volume, so that would not make any difference. You'd basically have to implement a more general way to control _reading_ access to files. With the basic mount options, that isn't really possible. Also note that for certain programs, it's not sufficient to just copy a binary and run that. Libraries and other resource files might be involved. However, a "local installation" in ~/.wine/drive_c would be possible. > Note that I cannot enable this behavior with '-o noexec' : that only > disables > execution of binaries by the kernel itself, not the emulation layer - > which just > needs read access. Correct. "Windows" programs aren't executed in a manner that it would be triggered by the -noexec mechanism. > Is it possible for me to achieve that behaviour ? Not as a simple tweak, as far as I know... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Message-Id: <20170425200218.cbbf375c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20170425192117.c1b04abc.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 590316901A8 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1419 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:02:24 -0000 On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:37:59 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Polytropon wrote: > Note that I cannot enable this behavior with '-o noexec' : that only disables execution of binaries by the kernel itself, not the emulation layer - which just needs read access. > Correct. "Windows" programs aren't executed in a manner that it would be triggered by the -noexec mechanism. > > > Hi Poly/others, > > But it should be possible to make this a configurable option for > emulators/wine and emulators/i386-wine. For volumes mounted with > noexec passed to ntfs-3g/fuse, Wine honours that the noexec > behaviour everywhere under the volume. That makes good sense to me. Maybe a "wrapper" that calls wine could implement this specific check? When the "executable" resides in a volume where noexec is enabled, wine (the program which is actually executed) will refuse to load the "Windows" program. It could use the following approach: 1. determine full path of argument given to wine 2. grep in `mount -v` for path, then for "noexec" 3. if it's set, print an error message, else call wine Just an idea. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 25 18:10:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58A4D50B2F for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F6D515B for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58D1607BB for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U8fqy6hRwB8H for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "imap.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (verified OK)) by inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B50678A2CE for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E790607BB for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lUUf0pzsGGga for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: delayed 1526 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:43 EDT Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 008DACB8CC6; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:45:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:45:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <58006.128.135.52.6.1493142314.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <74584efb8720147d119d31fcb452a521.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <74584efb8720147d119d31fcb452a521.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:45:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Undo GELI From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@harte-lyne.ca Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:10:47 -0000 On Tue, April 25, 2017 12:01 pm, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > In my frustration with getting FreeBSD installed on it I forgot where > this device was going to be placed and selected encryption for the > entire ZFS install. I now realise that simply is not going to work. > Having already extensively configured the unit I am wondering if there > is some way to undo this or if I am faced with a complete reinstall. If no one suggests anything elegant you can just boot off live DVD, mount filesystems you currently have, rsync them elsewhere, re-create filesystems, ,mount them, rsync everything back, restore boot. (I did it that way - for different reason). Good luck! Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 25 20:16:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8035ED509CF for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47B6FFFF for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [65.186.81.207] ([65.186.81.207:37524] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 89/EB-03423-E9EAFF85; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:16:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.143] (helo=desktop.example.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1d36sv-0000Ow-LZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:16:29 -0400 Subject: Re: New question on Mate and FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <07197ae8f00a48f5ea7d098fb75145ca.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20170424224534.91448acb.freebsd@edvax.de> <5793f2002bc6eff17b2831bede1056e6.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20170425142210.16ab619a.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <0d3ec69e-75c8-1f11-286a-faa86981cb76@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:16:29 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170425142210.16ab619a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.6:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:16:38 -0000 On 04/25/17 08:22, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:11 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote: >> >> On Mon, April 24, 2017 16:45, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:10:10 -0400, James B. Byrne via >>> freebsd-questions wrote: >>>> How does one drop out of slim to the console? I installed FreeBSD-11 >>>> on a spare laptop and I am having some difficulty logging on through >>>> slim. I have installed mate and slim but when I run slim it prompts >>>> for a login and then fails with 'unable to execute login'; or >>>> something similar. >>>> >>>> However when this happens I do not know how to get out of the >>>> graphical logon screen without rebooting the system. >>> >>> Solution A: switch consoles with Ctrl+Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... >>> >>> Solution B: do A, followed by "killall -9 slim" >>> >>> This of course doesn't work anymore when you're using sc "as" >>> the console driver, so you must use "vt". This _might_ indtroduce >>> new problems with character sizes, fonts, and locale support. :-) >>> >>> Sidenote: In normal text mode, you use Alt+PF1 / PF2 / PF3 / ... >>> to switch between the virtual consoles, the "Print / Sys Rq" key >>> can be used to iterate through the consoles. >>> >>> >> >> My usual practice on CentOS is to configure the host to boot into text >> mode and then run startx from the console to start the graphical >> desktop. > > This can also be done on FreeBSD. Both a display manager and > the actual X session (running a window manager or a whole desktop > environment) can be initiated from the text mode. > > > >> I have installed mate on the FreeBSD system but cannot seem >> to hit upon the correct manner to start it. Well, it sort of starts >> but what shows up is not recognisable as desktop. This is just >> ignorance on my part. I had similar problems when I decided to use >> mate instead of gnome when I was testing RHEL/CentOS7. > > I have recently switched an installation of a Gnome 2 "destroyed > by update" to MATE (and slim instead of gdm), now ~/.xinitrc and > ~/.xsession get honored as expected. Interestingly, some of the > Gnome settings were "inherited", but others needed to be set up > manually. > > > >> Does PF1 == F1 (function key 1) or does this refer to something else? > > Sorry, that's my typical "IBM speak": The name PF key refers to > the correct term "programmable function key", but PF1 and F1 are > exactly the same thing. Must be the result of using a keyboard > where the actual labels were PF1, PF2, and so on... ;-) > > > add this to .shrc in your home directory.... if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ] && [ $(tty) == /dev/ttyv0 ]; then startx fi From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 25 20:59:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3230D4F927 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Perry@co-logistics.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25991FCF for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Perry@co-logistics.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B1ACCD4F926; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1433D4F925 for ; 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Wed, 26 Apr 2017 03:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v3Q7ORMX054130; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:24:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Undo GELI To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@harte-lyne.ca References: <74584efb8720147d119d31fcb452a521.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <58006.128.135.52.6.1493142314.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <135038b5-80d9-83fa-4f1f-70bc78c5e7f7@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:24:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58006.128.135.52.6.1493142314.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:55:47 -0000 On 25/04/2017 18:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Tue, April 25, 2017 12:01 pm, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> In my frustration with getting FreeBSD installed on it I forgot where >> this device was going to be placed and selected encryption for the >> entire ZFS install. I now realise that simply is not going to work. >> Having already extensively configured the unit I am wondering if there >> is some way to undo this or if I am faced with a complete reinstall. > > If no one suggests anything elegant you can just boot off live DVD, mount > filesystems you currently have, rsync them elsewhere, re-create > filesystems, ,mount them, rsync everything back, restore boot. (I did it > that way - for different reason). If you want the final result to be zfs, but without geli underneath, rather than using rsync, use "zfs send -R" to create a replica stream and store it on spare device, recreate the zpool over unencrypted disk(s), and "zfs recv" into the zpool. That way you get all the file systems back as you created them, with the same mount points, and only have to manually recreate the zpool. -- Unicode allows even more stupid password rules. Your password must contain at least one of each of: upper case letter, lower case letter, title case letter, digit, currency symbol, punctuation character, ideogram, box character, emoji, Middle Kingdom hieroglyph, ... 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[74.141.88.57]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 66sm1546721ior.34.2017.04.26.06.08.23 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Apr 2017 06:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59009BCA.2080700@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:08:26 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions , "ports@FreeBSD.org" Subject: How to get number of times a package has been downloaded? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:08:24 -0000 I would like to see the activity of the packaged version of my port. By activity I mean the number of times it's been download since it was first packaged or at least since the last quarterly re-packaging. Is there a FreeBSD web page where this type of information is posted? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 26 16:05:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8DED51BF2 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE2D4E69 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E48E60F2E for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CoIynYoXWj4P for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "imap.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (verified OK)) by inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3DD38A534; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D614860F2E; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aHVi7do0warA; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: delayed 367 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:41 EDT Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.eu (mail.inhio.eu [178.238.36.226]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unknown [179.210.96.127]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 252C92D76C; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1493222366.2938.10.camel@inhio.net> Subject: Re: Undo GELI From: ASV To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@harte-lyne.ca Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:59:26 -0300 In-Reply-To: <74584efb8720147d119d31fcb452a521.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <74584efb8720147d119d31fcb452a521.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:05:49 -0000 Unfortunately for you the geli provider must be created prior the filesystem which is going to be encrypted within. If you forgot about that you have to move the data somewhere else and re-create the fs within a geli provider. As I've played quite some with that in the past I can tell you that I've successfully used rsync, dump and tar for the data transfer. Which one to use is up to you but dump is certainly the slowest of them all. Good luck! On Tue, 2017-04-25 at 13:01 -0400, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > In my frustration with getting FreeBSD installed on it I forgot where > this device was going to be placed and selected encryption for the > entire ZFS install.  I now realise that simply is not going to work.  > Having already extensively configured the unit I am wondering if > there > is some way to undo this or if I am faced with a complete reinstall. > > Sigh. . . > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 26 17:50:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F22D51553 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.eu (mail.inhio.eu [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F26A78 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unknown [179.210.96.127]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE7AE2D8EB; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1493228687.2938.18.camel@inhio.net> Subject: Re: /etc/skel doesn't work?! From: ASV To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:44:47 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20170306195758.17d83f1d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1488813922.11457.12.camel@inhio.net> <20170306195758.17d83f1d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:50:44 -0000 Thank you for the info and apologies for the very late reply, I've been away for a while and lost track of this issue. I thank you for the "dot" explanation nevertheless the "looks like a bug to me" was referred to the "/etc/skel" directory being there while having no functionality at all. But this has been explained by Arthur Chance within the email tread: _____________ Looking at the svn entries for /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist I find that /etc/skel was introduced at 2.2.7-R by Jordan Hubbard on Feb 27th 1998 with the comment: "MFC: /etc/skel doesn't seem to be used in the -current branch either, but it doesn't hurt." _____________ In fact creating a directory which has no purpose and no functionality whatsoever and letting it there for almost 20 years until somebody founds it and realises that is a dead object IT DOES hurt. It should be removed. :) On Mon, 2017-03-06 at 19:57 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 12:25:22 -0300, ASV wrote: > > > > Hello there, > > I haven't use this standard functionality for ages but yesterday I > > suddenly needed and then I've tried ... and failed. > > Further reading led me to add files that I want to be added on any > > new > > user home dir in /usr/share/skel/dot(filename). > > > > For example: to make my customised .zshrc copied on any new user > > home > > dir I'd just copy the .zshrc file in question to > > /usr/share/skel/dot.zshrc and it will be copied with the proper > > rights > > without the prepending "dot". > > And that works! > At the "top level", a real dot needs to be escaped with "dot.", > both for files and directories. Within directories, files can > be named "as is". > > A little sidenote: > > If you want to make users participate in the use of a customized > C shell configuration, you can use the global /etc/csh.cshrc and > leave the user's .cshrc (dot.cshrc in the skel/ directory) empty > for individual overrides. Advantage: When you improve /etc/csh.cshrc, > all users will immediately have that improvement, too. > > > > > > > Nonetheless, according to my understanding, any file placed into > > /etc/skel should end up into the newly created user home directory > > but > > it does NOT. > > Doesn't matter how the file is named. > As I said, there is a specific naming convention that applies both > to /usr/share/skel and /etc/skel content. You can make the adduser > program use /etc/skel instead of /usr/share/skel in case you don't > want to "pollute" that directory. :-) > > You can find details in "man adduser" and "man pw", which I'd like > to quote from the -m option: > > This option instructs pw to attempt to create the user's > home directory.  While primarily useful when adding a new > account with useradd, this may also be of use when moving > an existing user's home directory elsewhere on the file > system.  The new home directory is populated with the con- > tents of the skeleton directory, which typically contains a > set of shell configuration files that the user may person- > alize to taste.  Files in this directory are usually named > dot. where the dot prefix will be stripped.  When > -m is used on an account with usermod, existing configura- > tion files in the user's home directory are not overwritten > from the skeleton files. > > This section clearly states the convention of the "dot" prefix. > > > > > > > Looks like a bug to me. > No, it doesn't. :-) > > > > > > > My machine: FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2 (amd64) > > Command used: pw useradd -m > Correct. > > > > > > > P.S. would be interesting to know why "dot" is required to be > > prepended > > in files added in /usr/share/skel > Convention, because the copying routine uses this replacement > for "real" files (source/dot.* -> target/.*) whereas it ignores > hidden file (source/.*); I don't know why, but you can have > hidden files in the skel/ directories which are ignored at > its top level. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 26 18:16:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACEED50059 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 287AE7A for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61AE60261 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:16:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JZZQhT-ztxyR for ; 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Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:16:32 -0400 Message-ID: <1527a002bf7f0d6fdcb881328a87bab7.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <135038b5-80d9-83fa-4f1f-70bc78c5e7f7@qeng-ho.org> References: <74584efb8720147d119d31fcb452a521.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <58006.128.135.52.6.1493142314.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <135038b5-80d9-83fa-4f1f-70bc78c5e7f7@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:16:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Undo GELI From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@harte-lyne.ca Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:16:44 -0000 I ended up reinstalling. Now I have Yet Another Difficulty (YAD tm pending). After the install using the ZFS - MBR(BIOS) (no-encryption) options I rebooted from the hdd. Everything went fine. I have both the console and an ssh session logged in. I installed bash. So far so good. However, when I run 'freebsd-update fetch' I see this error: src component not installed. skipped Cannot identify running kernel # uname -a FreeBSD vhost02.mississauga.harte-lyne.ca 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 # ls -la /boot lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Sep 28 2016 /boot -> bootpool/boot # ls -la /boot/* ls: /boot/*: No such file or directory # ls -la /bootpool total 9 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 Apr 26 12:57 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 25 Apr 26 13:27 .. So, where is the kernel and how did the system start? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Marketing Manager From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 26 18:54:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B69D51121 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markoml@markoturk.info) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D91775DF for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markoml@markoturk.info) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4713601FE for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UGkjCu7r7pdj for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "imap.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (verified OK)) by inet07.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 765A18A534; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFAA601FE; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Car0b4WzHxVj; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: delayed 595 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:30 EDT Received: from vps.markoturk.info (vps.markoturk.info [95.154.208.14]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vps.markoturk.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vps.markoturk.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67377273FB; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:44:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:44:33 +0200 From: Marko Turk To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@harte-lyne.ca Subject: Re: Undo GELI Message-ID: <20170426184433.GA5904@vps.markoturk.info> References: <74584efb8720147d119d31fcb452a521.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <58006.128.135.52.6.1493142314.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <135038b5-80d9-83fa-4f1f-70bc78c5e7f7@qeng-ho.org> <1527a002bf7f0d6fdcb881328a87bab7.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1527a002bf7f0d6fdcb881328a87bab7.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.0 (2016-08-17) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:54:37 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 02:16:32PM -0400, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questi= ons wrote: >=20 > So, where is the kernel and how did the system start? You will have to import bootpool manually. See this bug: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D212258 -Marko --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEhcgjUnLArcQCyVEgeDpsXaaozYgFAlkA6pAACgkQeDpsXaao zYiNIxAAidpNpNX431hp1TYq7W4muur+6usXakk4S7bwnv963iyelHC3lCfh0tg1 m/KiV6W/NjLzBlkmHtvmPbrdbfQo5Z+sd5/vKervsKfl6bOWg/FoTaVDofMuP+AY mb/eHsRgvtCz7ePhlLLIwwaXmOWoe5pj7xATGPpD0iEqA1TK1Nj+DuDSPYO7tALG p64HkzwyNTaNtU7zC1dhwsz/X/njsozBHlWnF2/WWB/2Hcol9UdZJ1N13fWMvEH2 7SzdgOfmTm95tvQWayFaJUKCVxDa/Kxj9vrVZX2B0t/Yp1Rnnz+jHja64AtetGE1 MhFilo48nZJ/ATkfeX8bjBvL5likvgsQmOn2nc8N8OEWUvXlBi8jsL05+quPH3vp x5jMwFfglfWlZ9ZecDT2LUElbXmvMNAtg5fMWDrFAFOVTOpZis9SxfjUrCmhfkft kWtm2x4ZLVwiYuxnD2VGgD1qhxYSJ+ZwKmGtZjabPc+QfI1MfVqJ2hPwbz+Vo3B4 XYzbcOc09rCDPNwE+iBJXa9wcFX+8c0+PFrN+iWRihQt/KDdYdPQWTytSY6J7jWs APSdVuSvRTNucC36qeoDaNRQvxKgc9oByz/6/zOWwRSD3R6AEfuKuILl6FaZsFHX pc2mni0Vwv9dgIDOzwymaxDtbWK2SkCp5oknVRkKZK4ZlnoBWNQ= =F8df -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 26 19:42:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140D0D51496 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.gmx.com", Issuer "thawte SSL CA - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C526F2E2 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) Received: from [82.57.0.46] by 3capp-mailcom-lxa01.server.lan (via HTTP); Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:42:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: "Rocky Hotas" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook correction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:42:23 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bGspa4rL/2VECOwhGERi3jKqkOzivrbV8AROkZAW3C6 vApQu07wEpolUhes4F0goL85qtCMs0B6dk40s4yzUIl/paZCWk riaz4K0nA7LQwj6WJEq83EhKy8lor+o2U+wwi+Sv+fLBa1p7xf 8BZ0/+Cz2yZjc6u0Gjfh3A5UC1l/MUz5Qe9BS5Gic0yAQQAlsf rQHLi7epXLfEcbJlEjJ4J5S5YT2DAFv6q5lurRWdSgZ/Apnh2O IDWN7I3Z4UcijsCqiK4JmtvBcionLFDk0l5iQGZ2EuGWwL/CFg BdgdfVqqkDQZiEzeAzNcYgaIRC3 X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:hsH0qRi3H2Y=:PT2zhliEjwSAcY3Kr5D21N s2vd8WsVV0jnJkaYzPVRyqeHu26KDg2nWw3eCMkyv2wRvOkjBKZYQWF083oVzRKbp6G+FMeOd ExQv7iL9bc/V1mhb9P5aEgloBnL0uqMM59/ChDFcPFyCL1REtsHm5gjUj+TEs631crXGiVPMp 1YoiFcqj2QfcC3qw1yrNugxO4V9laIEFysE9TtX+47uhkAl5/H+DE3f2Pj7VZkYG68f/3uaqD f+c02mGWroC1cOncxsLvejPEEcwVmUhzINm62UMDM24jLkEu0HY9UedIcTe/4Al54npldKpC0 WyP4pFct0p3E+2oH+s7ztJzi7JOUWMv2OUfEFFvxgsS4PG30S4BfWBkfeQR0AoxETJEi77At8 3iekRnyXASibw7C5npKGkx82l5kR3IAXyLlqJB4d1n6DRJKlz0zpbEId+jpGKL5S3gAQpArZE fOvkl1cLbQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:42:31 -0000 Hi! I would like to make some updates and fix some typos in the following section of the FreeBSD handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ldap.html I already wrote to freebsd-doc@freebsd.org for another issue, but I never got an answer, being the list especially used for (I guess) automatically generated mails: this is the reason why I write here. How is it possible for a normal user to suggest a modifications (or to directly modify) that page? Moreover, even the following page deals with (about) the same topic: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/ldap-auth/article.html which needs an update too. Bye! Rocky From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 26 20:58:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB1ED51A43 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smart@n2s.mobi) Received: from zoniac5.nmsrv.com (zoniac5.nmsrv.com [204.187.13.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nmsrv.com", Issuer "EssentialSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DEE6272 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smart@n2s.mobi) Received: (qmail 15725 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2017 20:42:58 -0000 Received: from ec2-54-197-242-119.compute-1.amazonaws.com (HELO ip-10-141-7-163.ec2.internal) (smart@n2s.mobi@54.197.242.119) by zoniac5.nmsrv.com with ESMTPA; 26 Apr 2017 20:42:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:42:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Avinash Bakka Reply-To: avi@smtworks.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1493239364216.9553189779068666.avi@smtworks.com> Subject: Candidates ready to interview Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Zoniac Mailer System X-Zoniac-TrackerID: 2b77f2153ef02a846239769bb423bf1e2219be353f4d0ba45981807c46865749afe5b5b09115311353d7fbd3b833ef7e2ce59489a800ec6e MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ANSI_X3.4-1968" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:58:19 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 27 08:37:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E135D53305 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4573216DF for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id u65so10312158wmu.1 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:37:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0GszmpNIDN+ckOUJr6o+wCuaBcaQFLxlo3NCM0sEpJ0=; b=rFagJ+jzFrLGsQYFRls1N/As0czHCsEty+RZ5UJLbHo6/6xYXJ6a3m0tqKPA69OOo2 lIfrZpiIVx1gJ2w1y7uW6BxIvCIzlSeFh8GTjn61BCQ24vYnUlImVWzdTuC9i+uIvp2M LsGycz3/ltAh1BB4ij5AH91nR+QHbh6ZJpVAQp4NXqekMZdBaPLhVamVQwiNe7nldhMg w+Ia3uozuZV0Sl0gZ33+PK63HX8kRhdDx2cFH/T20XCZRCkatCdMfvEi7+bmaSYlvL4B CJjE0N0JpFgUchU4Qcq0Hz0AVFrDMLMX9sEvuww/6dnQ7hgqy8WXBDlU1kSZcTt4N0rY DRbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0GszmpNIDN+ckOUJr6o+wCuaBcaQFLxlo3NCM0sEpJ0=; b=MkxfeK7Rlf4L7Mymc4ko5o0saQePun3vmt4rxNlWUsSAM1DyinrIc8j2wbPDoeTOne aAppaI6PnpdURNOFJiT8iM3M5qdIRVLo6aMkE1/dO9nBHm5cyJQblxYrc1tkhZkJJIhD oS33d8UTJdFT9KjRYlaaAqWUWsKa264QEMIg5isIaKzwcBk1+f3WHqyrqcDCL8XIXpKV 31V6onblxeGancqKZrdwVMQCui8ixkQIo5rXEuGFiMKDUzUprOuCmzYdRg5SiwyWSGoF XRC+zFhF9Ogk1bgtGOIXRdMlvdHhmMQ+oqz6ng08EnvAQX1Da5KNceSuIQ1naXtKQNFd sPng== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7MtG3Mk7Hw04+vYEtA3fNOBFroNbHkju+LaVIaT6iol6oAGBGb S6AFbwYH/31XcmeCwJdCA0fr8aC4GQ== X-Received: by 10.28.69.73 with SMTP id s70mr1280494wma.33.1493282252465; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:37:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.172.115 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:36:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Jack L." Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:36:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Handbook correction To: Rocky Hotas Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:37:34 -0000 Have you tried filing a bug report? On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Rocky Hotas wrote: > Hi! > I would like to make some updates and fix some typos in the following section of the FreeBSD handbook: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ldap.html > > I already wrote to freebsd-doc@freebsd.org for another issue, but I never got an answer, being the list especially used for (I guess) automatically generated mails: this is the reason why I write here. > How is it possible for a normal user to suggest a modifications (or to directly modify) that page? > Moreover, even the following page deals with (about) the same topic: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/ldap-auth/article.html > > which needs an update too. > Bye! > > Rocky > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 27 13:44:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A462D53F21 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [IPv6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5292E808 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:558:6017:94:dcf8:7895:7e0c:8951]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3wDJ8s5r54zFtrP for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:44:45 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mgm51.com; s=mgm51-02; t=1493300685; bh=IzTSNrRgkvSxFgQniuZ2JWHdIl6OcYaboFz4RbjSBrE=; h=Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date; b=l3t7Dp7ejPNSzHvEbhVZLRBBdd4F6FqYQfEti5Yary7HCFrh/QkChnZIO0rhBXNDq 51OVFSZMizPlpZNybJBACgj2TEwpBQ35JyLvyvvCL8Uaa8sCKdKWfi2CvV7ZydZLP+ Co8oChaPDRKvgnbEqp2PtD+f6Sc0wLKZoXCltNYptWkRXbF1QiqJYwBSkCQSi0hK7/ FpwWG2tXkFarerQVW555KecRpls2LCQceq3fxJUkPNbEKjpKF6v1mzeKp9qmlzH87C +c0AqmnNNilKJKiUcoE/yHdSHNY50IPFr5PYeqWEgIj/TCr3w9IxTr701DG2NmtgNN eUSqTmxUmUn/A== Received: from [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:b882:169a:e9b8:f6e5] (unknown [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:b882:169a:e9b8:f6e5]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3wDJ8r6J8BzqTFW for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Handbook correction To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Mike Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:44:42 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:44:53 -0000 On 4/26/2017 3:42 PM, Rocky Hotas wrote: > I already wrote to freebsd-doc@freebsd.org for another issue, but I never got an answer That's odd. I've written to that email address with suggestions for Handbook corrections/updates, and I found the "other side" to be very responsive. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 27 13:47:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD81D51023 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.gmx.com", Issuer "thawte SSL CA - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AA0E930 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) Received: from [87.1.11.78] by 3capp-mailcom-lxa08.server.lan (via HTTP); Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:42:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: "Rocky Hotas" To: "Jack L." Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Handbook correction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:42:30 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JMv9EtUfQHvTYNSZmtPdhOcXhEyqU8xJz+MT4zkdsee Uohdz+Mqx6FPQJ9MCE6wOFCyqv7MZmqyvGXVB6oXSbD/iyTZTt gG23XMVOo8i1efdsH2jW0XFsGOw60iuvFfXOplDoYtONq54B97 h/Zg4lAf7BjL9FMui7G9qykES1ZAkymCtg+yeJQ4nDEVq38R3A Sf7DEo6ftl3BUuLFTuIhKjP/S7qzzCI/XUPkNfYZlXInJ71MoL nkebhiWDRGoK28GiEqfkao95hsypP47hmfVLLRQiTqsy0xIOuT gpMkb1Jd7dnRrCBGMhLgsO6Cz74 X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:6Gnz2jubRZw=:ibtTzvOEfMfEXzu2fY0HNs FDjDuW5hBdALD6sUd0cY68y5rysuSTcIuX2nmwVOfe8itF00Z1uanPZ97R+/nSRdWsdKzjzER a9EQXCBNNUxS+onN1darMOEthVSNhzrvE4v5OtZ76xUPnm6s6XkmnAJhJSIGogFWtMBjZIysC 0O31O7Ib7RU4MIsIXHktVS0trwnW2QWjZr0KZlUpKKoYaftJX9nUGCtgc/RgZAyRjXhxwVmLd 9NzquaeRs8Qo8C+jjq2AUisiaO3WtbfnrAaIqhzJ/wL95DI32sMnKf4Xv3L9MWpHq9uQZUg+n oEd+i0TL6ZksYBtsokT/7+PjtbtXMo5aLqaTQY+hRFythMM4tsJZ/eQXYt1POBJBeWg5ryfww azceTNDhiy5Ze2PFn0AI+ErwrQbAik91AyjuSZuHJxMGxYB2ke82KZaUHxWXJATJd9aFeyYHA PDTFgMh4bw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:47:44 -0000 Hi! > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 10:36 AM > From: "Jack L." > To: "Rocky Hotas" > Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Subject: Re: Handbook correction > > Have you tried filing a bug report? No, I didn't. Thank you for your advice. Rocky From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 27 14:19:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A114D51C76 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp207.alice.it (smtp207.alice.it [82.57.200.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311031A9B for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (79.26.24.41) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 588F42831A1F285E; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:19:47 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v3REJdPj005838; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:19:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Some ZFS questions To: Frederic Chardon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <8c6322c0-b425-84e8-87c8-ed4cff727955@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:19:39 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:19:57 -0000 On 04/18/17 11:21, Frederic Chardon wrote: > What puzzles me is "zroot/ROOT": why do we need that? Why do we > mount "zroot/ROOT/default" as root instead of simply mounting > "zroot" at /? > > > It's a setup for Boot Environment (just google that ;)). If you install > sysutils/beadm you can then have in parallel several root fs. It's not > mandatory but so useful that's is enabled by default. Thanks. Now I understand what this is and why it is useful. Still, I think I need a SHTF-plan before I put such a system in production. Is there any step-by-step instruction on how to mount the box's HD from a live filesystem? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 27 15:22:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F087FD531C4 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C458B9E2 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB8620991 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:22:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=uP6H1I+0OWXkYXoGYCnLk0GEVx 5f5eb1sasP8qZEpag=; b=LbG83zYecU2y5lzEy3lxLyBHVW+OFuH6hmXxP1LXRp c8ckgGX9O9ebK2wBhmRwQU0GivI18WyZ0jqsc0mx2lcsbQxAEycaaNBhod3yOegY A5SKKM4NIpvIwzk1j7D7ASwQeamAu3jfYQkacYjYqYW5R4PvuIF4ac5Z5dIsemt5 Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=uP6H1I +0OWXkYXoGYCnLk0GEVx5f5eb1sasP8qZEpag=; b=cjGPiRc/pFxZhxap6ez23y m33nMfAvuC0stdhXpZgDOk2NksxbyiZbSavrymb2K4Rlda1jH8JsRpFtwkOyFICh rWiblrl5dzHqxlEVBRB6/5ggdm+WfX9Fw7KaQJaD9bJRhEtjMVRxuJRswfOI73Mt CAk1kquD0emKWTTRZFq8RODCN4io2uORyO0ytK7QZv9zhpSymgncxU5EcGAP8gBG JSl0fW+o3oBpC5r2DU1Tpq1Y+yk7ngszuBWacjhjQTjg4nZdL2/EWyzwRjsyEMGi y9GmY4A70A75VRWgi9IHLb4Te24D4rkcpP/ArGiHBkt/OMm2sH9YGJxphK5JvqZw == X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id E0C5048004; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1493306562.346687.958279176.43C64097@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Dave Cottlehuber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-88a795dc References: <8c6322c0-b425-84e8-87c8-ed4cff727955@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <8c6322c0-b425-84e8-87c8-ed4cff727955@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:22:42 +0200 Subject: Re: Some ZFS questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:22:45 -0000 On Thu, 27 Apr 2017, at 16:19, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 04/18/17 11:21, Frederic Chardon wrote: > > > What puzzles me is "zroot/ROOT": why do we need that? Why do we > > mount "zroot/ROOT/default" as root instead of simply mounting > > "zroot" at /? > > > > > > It's a setup for Boot Environment (just google that ;)). If you install > > sysutils/beadm you can then have in parallel several root fs. It's not > > mandatory but so useful that's is enabled by default. > > Thanks. > Now I understand what this is and why it is useful. > > Still, I think I need a SHTF-plan before I put such a system in > production. > Is there any step-by-step instruction on how to mount the box's HD from > a live filesystem? > > bye & Thanks > av. http://www.callfortesting.org/bhyve-boot-environments/ is excellent, as is http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/articles/zfs-update-management/ closer to a step-by-step I don't think you'll find anywhere. 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Warm regards, Micheal Clark| Marketing Executive Unsubscribe | Reconfirm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 13:23:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF279D543F0 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A487B for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v3SDEsqT079787 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.1.13] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Paul Macdonald Subject: A seperate ZFS question Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:23:57 -0000 I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD cache drive (ada2) I added a 2nd SSD (ada3) for safety as i didn;t want to risk the pool at all and exporting wasn;t feasible in timescale. Can someone explain : what i've actually managed to set up here (!), the ramifications of forceably offlining/removing ada2 and if i should worry when ada2 gets full? capacity operations bandwidth pool alloc free read write read write ------------ ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- zrootnew 692G 460G 15 174 351K 2.40M mirror 683G 237G 14 138 328K 1.43M gpt/zfs0 - - 6 50 155K 1.44M ada1p3 - - 7 50 176K 1.44M ada2 9.17G 223G 0 36 22.9K 989K cache - - - - - - ada3 39.0G 194G 23 5 168K 264K many thanks Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 13:53:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082BFD54A07 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A203DF69 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v3SDqx5q065946 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:52:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v3SDqxgw065943; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:52:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:52:59 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Paul Macdonald cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:53:21 -0000 On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14+0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD cache > drive (ada2) > > I added a 2nd SSD (ada3) for safety as i didn;t want to risk the pool at all > and exporting wasn;t feasible in timescale. > > Can someone explain : > > what i've actually managed to set up here (!), > > the ramifications of forceably offlining/removing ada2 > > and if i should worry when ada2 gets full? > > capacity operations bandwidth > pool alloc free read write read write > ------------ ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- > zrootnew 692G 460G 15 174 351K 2.40M > mirror 683G 237G 14 138 328K 1.43M > gpt/zfs0 - - 6 50 155K 1.44M > ada1p3 - - 7 50 176K 1.44M > ada2 9.17G 223G 0 36 22.9K 989K > cache - - - - - - > ada3 39.0G 194G 23 5 168K 264K First, you have gpt/zfs0 and ada1p3 in a mirrored configuration. Next, you have ada2 striped (RAID 0) to the first pair of mirrors. This is a very weird "RAID 1 + 0" combo. Guess what will happen when you lose ada2! Maybe you should describe what you wanted to happen in the first place. If you really wanted a three-way mirror, you have just learned the hard way about the difference between zpool add and zpool attach. The latter is for adding additional members to existing mirrors, while the former is for adding raidz{1,2,3} groups to a pool, and the add command got you into this mess. "zpool attach zrootnew ada1p3 ada2" is the right command if you wanted to create a three-way mirror in the first place. I suggest you make good backups of this pool, destroy it, recreate it properly, and restore the missing data. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 14:28:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E82D5322B for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x229.google.com (mail-yb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25E421F89 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 8so15840855ybw.1 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mMrJvqJDFsI3bl1BNQB+T7PkNiH2+HEOzHuIqO4wE/k=; b=huvzfyJqN7yYCHu8XTHbKDOARqMH6X92KMAeil6R71UwGoApqsUE3GOIVYiOBg1P+J fzNR8Pytr+vlLGqzvWFiKce0+HmnY71Nb7l/hNphxXGRrR5/6IhfEQuCgoLOtDDl3RrN NRm9LoWnaJ67u6A6erAxISok1kiz5pt9PrOQhkCeMu3U/TAsYeMTWfGUibaznodeciGF rouc8QsDvEhwPeA15QwzqBMgQVzbRxj/pgVuw6lV/7Xtl5cR8GP3dZ2yrfL84GSMXqZy yxMjv1Mma6rNj305Yfnv/Yzk6R+h+K3MJgRR+AvMpygXlPd0onW5dp8NGHnoCr6nRWni JkXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mMrJvqJDFsI3bl1BNQB+T7PkNiH2+HEOzHuIqO4wE/k=; b=KYyHNMvVcb29d7gFKIdWbeZOu8vuGIUk5F4Y3AIu6X1+00qoq/Pru2TfYsGkh/ZiCd Nr0nDhR59tn83el+khOYQZE0J4miPB5THIb33lADqGLFNH87E0YdDhwrdjusp4kWgwdv DZrnSNp/0dnunUEgqwcv7WPuRGlrR4KgOh5H4G7G2KAHULWsIMfTyziAkStDhXA9h8I0 gORzD2J4La/dD9v3eQfXEQ4LCIgwmpDxa2BMwkz1xPctEt2o6QcJ0ynN5d5xT/cj4KLN jQp2d5HmU0F8XMZeHFJPPcEq7AnCY3Uwmbw3b6HwPiDu/8TmYPvv08z7MS2GopxP4SRA Xc2w== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7z+gmIO8JBAWlWdkzIkitaKrxAQeG/VkY5ZAkcpIvxymxi+HpI +FWDSaGtchbol7WNLvrRCzVsjklzai2cKmI= X-Received: by 10.37.1.4 with SMTP id 4mr9505859ybb.91.1493389723175; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:28:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.72.144 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:28:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ultima Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:28:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question To: Paul Macdonald Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:28:44 -0000 -n is your friend. Never used zpool add without it to verify changes are as you intend. Not using it first is similar to jumping off a plane without verifying your parachute is on properly. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Trond Endrest=C3=B8l < Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14+0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > > > > I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD > cache > > drive (ada2) > > > > I added a 2nd SSD (ada3) for safety as i didn;t want to risk the pool a= t > all > > and exporting wasn;t feasible in timescale. > > > > Can someone explain : > > > > what i've actually managed to set up here (!), > > > > the ramifications of forceably offlining/removing ada2 > > > > and if i should worry when ada2 gets full? > > > > capacity operations bandwidth > > pool alloc free read write read write > > ------------ ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- > > zrootnew 692G 460G 15 174 351K 2.40M > > mirror 683G 237G 14 138 328K 1.43M > > gpt/zfs0 - - 6 50 155K 1.44M > > ada1p3 - - 7 50 176K 1.44M > > ada2 9.17G 223G 0 36 22.9K 989K > > cache - - - - - - > > ada3 39.0G 194G 23 5 168K 264K > > First, you have gpt/zfs0 and ada1p3 in a mirrored configuration. Next, > you have ada2 striped (RAID 0) to the first pair of mirrors. This is a > very weird "RAID 1 + 0" combo. Guess what will happen when you lose > ada2! > > Maybe you should describe what you wanted to happen in the first > place. > > If you really wanted a three-way mirror, you have just learned the > hard way about the difference between zpool add and zpool attach. > > The latter is for adding additional members to existing mirrors, while > the former is for adding raidz{1,2,3} groups to a pool, and the add > command got you into this mess. > > "zpool attach zrootnew ada1p3 ada2" is the right command if you wanted > to create a three-way mirror in the first place. > > I suggest you make good backups of this pool, destroy it, recreate it > properly, and restore the missing data. > > -- > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | > | Trond Endrest=C3=B8l, | Trond Endrest=C3=B8l, = | > | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | > | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gj=C3=B8vik Technical College, Norway, = | > | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | > | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 15:04:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD4CD5418A for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 056331AAB for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v3SF4fah066317 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:04:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v3SF4fT2066314; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:04:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:04:41 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Paul Macdonald cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:04:46 -0000 On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:28-0400, Ultima wrote: > -n is your friend. Never used zpool add without it to verify changes are as > you intend. Not using it first is similar to jumping off a plane without > verifying your parachute is on properly. Not to mention using -v. Also, the OP can use: zfs snap -r zrootnew@transfer zfs send -RLev zrootnew@transfer | {ssh,nc,something-something} or zfs send -RLev zrootnew@transfer > /some/file/somewhere for creating a replicated stream preserving both data and metadata. Use these commands for restoring the missing data: {ssh,nc,something-something} | zfs recv -Fduv newpool or zfs recv -Fduv newpool < /some/file/somewhere If all drives are connected to the same system, the replication can be simplified to: zfs send -RLev zrootnew@transfer | zfs recv -Fduv newpool Remember to remove the recursive @transfer snapshot afterwards. To preview what will happen: zfs destroy -nRv newpool@transfer To go ahead and make the plunge: zfs destroy -Rv newpool@transfer Why are we top posting all of a sudden? > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Trond Endrestøl < > Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no> wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14+0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > > > > > > > I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD > > cache > > > drive (ada2) > > > > > > I added a 2nd SSD (ada3) for safety as i didn;t want to risk the pool at > > all > > > and exporting wasn;t feasible in timescale. > > > > > > Can someone explain : > > > > > > what i've actually managed to set up here (!), > > > > > > the ramifications of forceably offlining/removing ada2 > > > > > > and if i should worry when ada2 gets full? > > > > > > capacity operations bandwidth > > > pool alloc free read write read write > > > ------------ ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- > > > zrootnew 692G 460G 15 174 351K 2.40M > > > mirror 683G 237G 14 138 328K 1.43M > > > gpt/zfs0 - - 6 50 155K 1.44M > > > ada1p3 - - 7 50 176K 1.44M > > > ada2 9.17G 223G 0 36 22.9K 989K > > > cache - - - - - - > > > ada3 39.0G 194G 23 5 168K 264K > > > > First, you have gpt/zfs0 and ada1p3 in a mirrored configuration. Next, > > you have ada2 striped (RAID 0) to the first pair of mirrors. This is a > > very weird "RAID 1 + 0" combo. Guess what will happen when you lose > > ada2! > > > > Maybe you should describe what you wanted to happen in the first > > place. > > > > If you really wanted a three-way mirror, you have just learned the > > hard way about the difference between zpool add and zpool attach. > > > > The latter is for adding additional members to existing mirrors, while > > the former is for adding raidz{1,2,3} groups to a pool, and the add > > command got you into this mess. > > > > "zpool attach zrootnew ada1p3 ada2" is the right command if you wanted > > to create a three-way mirror in the first place. > > > > I suggest you make good backups of this pool, destroy it, recreate it > > properly, and restore the missing data. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 15:08:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36CAD54450 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FB331EAC for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1d47Ej-0001yC-W5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:51:10 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1d47Fj-000KEj-60 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:52:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:51:05 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question Message-Id: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:08:46 -0000 On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:52:59 +0200 (CEST) Trond Endrestøl wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14+0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > > > > I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD > > cache drive (ada2) > First, you have gpt/zfs0 and ada1p3 in a mirrored configuration. Next, > you have ada2 striped (RAID 0) to the first pair of mirrors. This is a > very weird "RAID 1 + 0" combo. Guess what will happen when you lose > ada2! > > Maybe you should describe what you wanted to happen in the first > place. He did, ada2 is supposed to be a cache drive, now it's a stripe. > I suggest you make good backups of this pool, destroy it, recreate it > properly, and restore the missing data. Agreed, you can't undo adding a stripe. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 15:13:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89F8D5471A for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x236.google.com (mail-qk0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 931CE61B for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id f76so55323136qke.2 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:13:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5SRKxoTCuG3KaIReBTrn4iAKcg00rsJG532TLluLP8M=; b=clDCBBnnh/Dfm1ia7qH3JezgrIALoLi3vzbo3MxanWBqxk1ofN4IF3lB+0+rbO2Bup zEAytVk3WYk2TOPlZSL8gm3rb91DJoS1zMS/NnUuxjYnJcMeR5iMqwUE+DgGpWppMers mYW797KYzWW7mF1y+uEG/c+I20wc3epqEwuBafHU/5EDdrD5bM8QMTptfT76aQxQjhVQ O0nOaQ+O68iej5bmIddCP37m+D4tvOLLsr800qk2/mYSIlqp7xeFBy9hDz9NiSZDsEse 7HVu0OprnqcN7HIti02Ix9qbJHmUWoi4YVLhOL04pTXMbWPPV/2EcF2l9Esq5jT+RL+V EM+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5SRKxoTCuG3KaIReBTrn4iAKcg00rsJG532TLluLP8M=; b=JAXp7YzEk9DYJW+oh4hgbOQsipB13Y1qiOkCEzil6wwNEBQ76o2MMhYP2MKEKTdIij xc8kUSKcC+taY0kINRgOTVOfXNW25dyve7AxrjH1I9OmEjKRbZ8bO3lOaSX5WcB0I7mh aMhxU0xNlhM7WFI1U27XxTIGRfeW9rMuxzM6KoFNS41DQj52z07fVihFUXBEBM36rKtj 8KEprlKiE45VyYt9XEmcmWndV+bUZLncqIjmEiw2+updUEYA863rMSluPddxXOEzXQST ACXrdxHneBuFjfERG4S+4/gdYV/1uYiD0yLwPTO/+gMg7GjFOwAdGGa4410sb22YsYF9 OSag== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6AOHxJ0ObmMqnP53/vty+vwU7RABnTclp8x2SK+fJA/pY8zKfJ qbLd15TwweuQ7Oj93c3ed0tE5FDY6rKI X-Received: by 10.55.164.20 with SMTP id n20mr11399974qke.200.1493392401763; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:13:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.183.158 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:13:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> From: krad Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:13:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:13:22 -0000 maybe you can https://www.delphix.com/blog/delphix-engineering/openzfs-device-removal it wont be easy though as its another OS to boot into, which may for a pool upgrade. Probably easier to backup and recreate On 28 April 2017 at 15:51, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:52:59 +0200 (CEST) > Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14+0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > > > > > > > I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD > > > cache drive (ada2) > > First, you have gpt/zfs0 and ada1p3 in a mirrored configuration. Next, > > you have ada2 striped (RAID 0) to the first pair of mirrors. This is a > > very weird "RAID 1 + 0" combo. Guess what will happen when you lose > > ada2! > > > > Maybe you should describe what you wanted to happen in the first > > place. > > He did, ada2 is supposed to be a cache drive, now it's a stripe. > > > I suggest you make good backups of this pool, destroy it, recreate it > > properly, and restore the missing data. > > Agreed, you can't undo adding a stripe. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 15:32:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA14D54BB9 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1ECD7FB8 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1d47sl-0003Fi-Jz; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:32:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1d47tk-000KX1-NA; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:33:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:32:27 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: krad Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question Message-Id: <20170428163227.f68fa81dd05822bf38789ae4@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:32:34 -0000 On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:13:21 +0100 krad wrote: > maybe you can > > https://www.delphix.com/blog/delphix-engineering/openzfs-device-removal > > it wont be easy though as its another OS to boot into, which may for a > pool upgrade. Interesting, I wonder why that hasn't made it to FreeBSD yet. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 16:15:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7205FD549BC for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA1271952 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v3SGFFdE066754 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:15:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v3SGFF6K066751; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:15:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:15:15 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: krad , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question In-Reply-To: <20170428163227.f68fa81dd05822bf38789ae4@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> <20170428163227.f68fa81dd05822bf38789ae4@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:15:21 -0000 On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:32+0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:13:21 +0100 > krad wrote: > > > maybe you can > > > > https://www.delphix.com/blog/delphix-engineering/openzfs-device-removal > > > > it wont be easy though as its another OS to boot into, which may for a > > pool upgrade. > > Interesting, I wonder why that hasn't made it to FreeBSD yet. zpool(8) for stable/11 does mention "zpool remove". Don't know if it's implemented. Just fire up a VM and take it for spin. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 16:25:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D58D54DA6 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x230.google.com (mail-yb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43037DA for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x230.google.com with SMTP id 8so16685553ybw.1 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 09:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fBuoft4juhH4u/mHBDn/6089GGlWqqP+ibyn4xvyElw=; b=n0CPC0ghzQlQ5X0+8T8tsuEUciUxZwA9e6/bU/eLr7CS9rXWwBh2fsh2eEHq/Y+2yQ aWrm2Q7e+FfPznchrXt0rKbHpBHJiSm6gOIxCa7xAk5lAPL2taZIXnFKsB0ZcblZ6THl uZ3ef9YN1ZG2nCTyL7mGvlXp36li4I7vj/ebICnEIZa9HspjOigkbHF+xMuAq3cFZ+DN 3du3G97VzWAv098gow8LCAiGNWVSsSpW9tnJYCTVW63wpL/THCeEy27ysVxXyiyQ4Y99 5QMpE7heIyQDwPn+E/i1V39UFU2HTzzU2BS7Ql0lwcjtmwOuya2LIjrfIqwXl6wb62pS KyNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=fBuoft4juhH4u/mHBDn/6089GGlWqqP+ibyn4xvyElw=; b=B5CcSyZirvLL6leHZjmPvoT8Cn+KGPxeMZWdHprFSsKVGigiEl0gxUjQTao5qVTYBA GIF6Mn1U7KWIC7qeKX0xlne+fCEHgc2Nx8gLfP/Iy/M6+ZVTOM8yL6mrPkn9iysgb5Ab 2i2IF426ppllPkbTsjJW2N4lS3EMq6XXZqevt9xsKhaITaRFpQTSzJsNk+xage7QPCkf GFdQhLxL7cVETxSsgOQM33wtFVUOp6ZH62IxszlsmiD6NZ6UCeRIUtqh6G6Up41a8Sxj FQE+x5z9JTdXiycBj7Azudjzd92Ba4RQzCQR7qq0xlA9UwLXlWXrvy+RERWhqXXjMHLl p8gg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7xiHMP3GKQTQV5QNGLcOSOGABFTTrHvKKNJB8W5MbOKGsG5BmO nJOYMkVIHkGx99Nw06eH204tYkmpH+1Wbss= X-Received: by 10.37.177.166 with SMTP id h38mr9944368ybj.15.1493396739214; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 09:25:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.72.144 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 09:25:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> <20170428163227.f68fa81dd05822bf38789ae4@sohara.org> From: Ultima Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:25:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:25:40 -0000 On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Trond Endrest=C3=B8l < Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:32+0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:13:21 +0100 > > krad wrote: > > > > > maybe you can > > > > > > https://www.delphix.com/blog/delphix-engineering/openzfs- > device-removal > > > > > > it wont be easy though as its another OS to boot into, which may for = a > > > pool upgrade. > > > > Interesting, I wonder why that hasn't made it to FreeBSD yet. > > zpool(8) for stable/11 does mention "zpool remove". Don't know if it's > implemented. > > Just fire up a VM and take it for spin. > > -- > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | > | Trond Endrest=C3=B8l, | Trond Endrest=C3=B8l, = | > | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | > | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gj=C3=B8vik Technical College, Norway, = | > | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | > | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I doubt it, the command has been implemented for awhile now, but is only for removing hot spares, cache, and log devices. It is great that work is being done for this though! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 16:34:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB36D541C8 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3F9A822 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v3SGYTvq066872 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:34:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v3SGYSPN066869; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:34:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:34:28 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Ultima cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> <20170428163227.f68fa81dd05822bf38789ae4@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:34:34 -0000 On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:25-0400, Ultima wrote: > I doubt it, the command has been implemented for awhile now, but is only > for removing hot spares, cache, and log devices. And top-level devices. Just checked with stable/11, r317153. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 21:19:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF523D55576 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EA3182F for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v3SLJR3D033046 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:19:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.1.13] Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> From: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: <480833b2-d630-a703-ecd0-3281ed49a738@ifdnrg.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:19:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:19:39 -0000 On 28/04/2017 15:51, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:52:59 +0200 (CEST) > Trond Endrestøl wrote: > >> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14+0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: >> >>> I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD >>> cache drive (ada2) >> First, you have gpt/zfs0 and ada1p3 in a mirrored configuration. Next, >> you have ada2 striped (RAID 0) to the first pair of mirrors. This is a >> very weird "RAID 1 + 0" combo. Guess what will happen when you lose >> ada2! >> >> Maybe you should describe what you wanted to happen in the first >> place. > He did, ada2 is supposed to be a cache drive, now it's a stripe. > >> I suggest you make good backups of this pool, destroy it, recreate it >> properly, and restore the missing data. > Agreed, you can't undo adding a stripe. > all this so far i knew, It's an entirely unwanted config, and i'll likely just migrate either the data or the jails to another box, but i'd hoped to understand what the config meant under ZFS: As i understand from comments, i have effectively created a mis-sized RAID0 (stripe) between a SATA mirror set and a single SSD, i'm now very glad i didn't just unplug the SSD drive and instead added a 2nd SSD for the actual cache So i guess i have until the SSD fails (or presumably until the SSD reaches its capacity to fix this) thanks to all for the comments/guidance Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 28 21:53:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04372D54518 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x22c.google.com (mail-yw0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B57BAEC for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id u70so37195883ywe.2 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:53:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=JWnbaLb4Hc91/sZUnLTD6fSHMl1gnakLElQ/iFZh4hQ=; b=KQc0PBWfXhEjy+ttWcN4lafDoXcbUxLJsbtm2US4+cyc/COKXtducwvS/lyro5VmNf y2sv1SPfn7q1sUBFnoL5bf55gkJDmuFVJ3PmSQIAu7QZJ6ezYr5pBiTd/jMuTP/+8yno WdBjEZz+n5aySnyF+HqRsZBd/EvqwaqbO2V/yxyEpyUga5UfTOuQbh7c/gePUzGIIVmP fopk5SRVtwmFq4bnQrlWeYeTHmx1Eemn4kKW7IeFMg0cRwQTTRq3PnuqQVqA4zxy+irm oFXhNDLLZ0UYc7Hg/rO7uE/jLoWFd4ZHAXbLq+J9iBby3T8EuGRVFX40NPNsMYhL8Zjw xxdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JWnbaLb4Hc91/sZUnLTD6fSHMl1gnakLElQ/iFZh4hQ=; b=lcRELVfym2oN2Nhc+PEULnQ9wXo3learcdNsKCIyp1Acgg/leC+4YJxSW2+oSmfPo8 bBWoFC7W/E8nM4WIOt7gXBMVzgN2aS4nRd4JJ8oQmaslE2FGIYqxKPa4Zxh4I/BKbTzo 8/iy1taW8bfcGVM7ub5DYzovtNXSsolQn/0LyCv72Io3ZSRKQOhJDOvXziLbddc8INHZ XbvyrtN8u5ALhzH1w5am2kUiy9NOoeNqT5pOA2SL91nqS5I0aULLaHidTITHf1vEqQNo UBaxOd5Gdcrr0LGalDJL92BcnPYI95TAb52R+f/XKU/MU+/ZaE8/+9aOEgPW5CL34pe4 aNlg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5ZUF9kSawEu6rt49b5aMAG5W26tjFe7SDtqPXyfNm+o1G/05ix d/UBtSRQv9H1ebHZqc+c2PbfUwzHZc4M6rg= X-Received: by 10.13.211.4 with SMTP id v4mr11531805ywd.143.1493416400908; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:53:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.72.144 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:53:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <480833b2-d630-a703-ecd0-3281ed49a738@ifdnrg.com> References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> <480833b2-d630-a703-ecd0-3281ed49a738@ifdnrg.com> From: Ultima Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:53:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question To: Paul Macdonald Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:53:22 -0000 You have a fairly small pool, I highest suggest fixing the issue instead of ignoring it. This kind of issue makes bad days worse when ignored. =3D[ If no spare drives are available, it maybe best to detach one of the mirror devices, create a new pool with the single drive, move the data to it, there have replies with good zfs send | zfs receive suggestions. After that is complete, destroy the old pool and attach/add (with -n first) destroyed pool's drives to your needs. You are still in a minimal damage/recovery opportunity, and I would most definitely suggest use it as a learning experience instead of putting it off. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best Ultima On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > > On 28/04/2017 15:51, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:52:59 +0200 (CEST) >> Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: >> >> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:14+0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: >>> >>> I fat fingered adding a cache drive and was unable to remove the SSD >>>> cache drive (ada2) >>>> >>> First, you have gpt/zfs0 and ada1p3 in a mirrored configuration. Next, >>> you have ada2 striped (RAID 0) to the first pair of mirrors. This is a >>> very weird "RAID 1 + 0" combo. Guess what will happen when you lose >>> ada2! >>> >>> Maybe you should describe what you wanted to happen in the first >>> place. >>> >> He did, ada2 is supposed to be a cache drive, now it's a stripe. >> >> I suggest you make good backups of this pool, destroy it, recreate it >>> properly, and restore the missing data. >>> >> Agreed, you can't undo adding a stripe. >> >> > all this so far i knew, > > It's an entirely unwanted config, and i'll likely just migrate either the > data or the jails to another box, but i'd hoped to understand what the > config meant under ZFS: > > As i understand from comments, i have effectively created a mis-sized > RAID0 (stripe) between a SATA mirror set and a single SSD, > > i'm now very glad i didn't just unplug the SSD drive and instead added a > 2nd SSD for the actual cache > > So i guess i have until the SSD fails (or presumably until the SSD reache= s > its capacity to fix this) > > thanks to all for the comments/guidance > > Paul. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 29 05:15:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406B6D54FD9 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 015489F1 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Kj0-0007tD-JL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 06:15:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Kjz-0000RS-Nv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:16:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 06:15:14 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A seperate ZFS question Message-Id: <20170429061514.d08283c9d6bb6cca669b5e01@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <480833b2-d630-a703-ecd0-3281ed49a738@ifdnrg.com> References: <20170428155105.563a2ee5192bb8a08f76ca9d@sohara.org> <480833b2-d630-a703-ecd0-3281ed49a738@ifdnrg.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:15:22 -0000 On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:19:33 +0100 Paul Macdonald wrote: > all this so far i knew, > > It's an entirely unwanted config, and i'll likely just migrate either > the data or the jails to another box, but i'd hoped to understand what > the config meant under ZFS: > > As i understand from comments, i have effectively created a mis-sized > RAID0 (stripe) between a SATA mirror set and a single SSD, Yes. > i'm now very glad i didn't just unplug the SSD drive and instead added a > 2nd SSD for the actual cache Good call. > So i guess i have until the SSD fails (or presumably until the SSD > reaches its capacity to fix this) Not necessarily - what version of FreeBSD are you on ? If it's 11 you may be able to remove the SSD with zpool remove (if it's 10 you can't). Failing that your options are: Live with it - but if/when the SSD fails you lose data Expand the pool by mirroring then replacing the SSD Backup, rebuild, restore -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 29 12:35:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7B6D548DD for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlopmart@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x244.google.com (mail-wr0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26BD7A0F for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlopmart@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x244.google.com with SMTP id w50so9571100wrc.0 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:35:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :user-agent; bh=3P1VJ8uAcCYmve070TzF8Fpggzo+2e+N8Rr/7ECCoPc=; b=DtAo44/9e151rm2OCKzNDueQrKnIXI9pDMAgF7i7L6meRqTKfFZ97P5eUK55MJ2Ti+ NxT0EDFbVZqDDtMd7DAoNvWaGVPtnbZ/hCch0c7qXLXgKPVPhUCBQH+tLAKdK/z2sht+ NbCnB5Vb7kkEonXCzIf9bCJ+hiLVRGt8By3qjCeHFihVSIwi3audqlkhTQqwZ95XxFOr MOSn1Z9RWbdFK53c/wKFRQIhdCpHbGcWP9om0k482mFYwz8g/Z08hB7lziSrWSxi9DVN bMgap4hogXrVzkgGYikWWAnN0U2qvYtcHfrP8JkypBZlYj76YrNcVpEOq0PH5MSFDFvu SLPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:user-agent; bh=3P1VJ8uAcCYmve070TzF8Fpggzo+2e+N8Rr/7ECCoPc=; b=ESyOnC+/MldoKPUQ/DT+zOzyX766NF32ToS45K/48UvcL4PsWhpInvKK7auPEouuJK Mxwj1Cq6UmUfd6zRoNwxWKIqsIjOs7+fPixWQnLkHolc9Y9ItIElyuOdVv7gO6JNae0K nEgvMXt7DYAI7Cxvtn3OhhLVWE6Mti5n8iAhtYm8eY9Pf6I19m2kkPsaiyHnWBs4E6yx +JJdHudgFFSmXWHrIhOljeQBqyNZgwT3dpRfJT9JJWFV1Oak3ej7i+ypATh3l8dZphKT 5Yhjb2hXH9aseGZl2Qk6jVIZHynULZ886k7hHO8zXSKMrgwx7Vs1UAoqKzcQM6bCWIL/ 33Qw== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6D55cOXNcrqS5P6OZvOhT3RDFtiaj+c9cRc9PXaj3kFfHCi+Hx UyuR4RSaOW0nisegwi4= X-Received: by 10.223.170.197 with SMTP id i5mr9826704wrc.143.1493469346105; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([185.86.10.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u66sm15909755wmd.24.2017.04.29.05.35.45 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:35:45 +0000 From: "C. L. Martinez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where Chromium policy needs to be located? Message-ID: <20170429121546.vwqr6ojtkndb7n3v@scotland.uxdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306 (1.8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:35:48 -0000 Hi all, I have deployed a policy file for Chrome and Chromium browsers and it works under Linux (Ubuntu, RHEL, etc.). Now I would like to implement it in my FreeBSD 11 desktop, but in what directory chromium's freebsd port reads policy files?? For Chrome, under Linux, dir is /etc/opt/chrome/policies/managed and Chromium dir policy is /etc/chromium.d/policies/managed, but in FreeBSD?? Many thanks -- Greetings, C. L. Martinez From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 29 15:51:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44474D55206 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CE6D1164 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v3TFPRge041468; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:25:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Where Chromium policy needs to be located? To: "C. L. Martinez" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170429121546.vwqr6ojtkndb7n3v@scotland.uxdom.org> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <658b4c96-6faf-2dd1-e6aa-9b7e374c0d1e@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:25:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170429121546.vwqr6ojtkndb7n3v@scotland.uxdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:51:14 -0000 On 2017-04-29 14:35, C. L. Martinez wrote: > Hi all, > > I have deployed a policy file for Chrome and Chromium browsers and it works under Linux (Ubuntu, RHEL, etc.). 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