From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 6 02:13:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9CEDD8240 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2017 02:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6E276BE03 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2017 02:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:45784] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 16/0F-08177-49A76895; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 02:10:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 02:10:12 +0000 Message-ID: <16.0F.08177.49A76895@dnvrco-omsmta01> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ban on spam-sender domains from posting to freebsd-questions References: X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.6:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 02:13:49 -0000 > It does though. Legitimate list messages are blocked when list member's > MTAs reject spam sent via a freebsd.org list and the Mailman list > software subsequently suspends the subscription. This can happen to > anyone subscribed to more than one freebsd.org list. > Why freebsd.org does not follow standard practice of moderating mail > from non-members is the question we should be asking. It's not like > this takes any real effort or like there have not been several > volunteers. Mailman also allows for moderation of new members. Given > that spammers and bots can and do subscribe and trojans do parse > addressbooks it is both unprofessional and reflects poorly on all > freebsd maintainers that freebsd.org's postmaster / Mainman maintainer > does not follow this standard practice either. Finally, any MTA not > using zen.spamhaus, spamassassin, dcc, razor, pyzor et al is not, by > definition, properly configured. > Claims that 'it tends to come in bursts, but really isn't that much' or > 'having a subscriber only policy doesn't necessarily prevent spam' tend > to indicate the claimant knows little about list moderation or spam > filter or has a vested interest in UCE. > IMO, > Roger Marquis I recently received notice that one of my messages was moderated, although it subsequently went through since it was legit, clearly not spam. Reason was I erred in typing my email address when changing from the old address. Spams on FreeBSD lists are not limited to freebsd-questions. I have seen spams on freebsd-ports, freebsd-hardware, and others. NetBSD lists also get spam, including phishing. Tom