From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 01:19:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96DAE16330 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 01:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9FDC6ADA1 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 01:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33961622B0; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:19:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uYt8aiw0JX_0; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C69F9621A7; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:19:13 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:19:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Future of SAMBA on FreeBSD From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Adam Vande More" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 01:19:24 -0000 On Sat, September 16, 2017 19:49, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:02 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions > < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > Are you trying this in a jail? Did you read the relevant UPDATING > entry? > 1. No, this is not being attempted in a jail. 2. Yes, but this is not an update of an existing samba DC but a new installation. The pkg built on FreeBSD-11 but it will not provision as a DC. The issue is tied to the implementation of extended attributes which somehow differs under FreeBSD from Linux. My question was directed at the FreeBSD maintainers since the package maintainer is constrained by the limits enforced by the operating system.A work around that is reported to work is to patch Damba 4.6 to use the default namespace which approach the Samba team deprecate as being insecure. Since this is all well beyond my scope of competence I may have expressed the details poorly but that is my understanding of the situation. What I would appreciate is if someone could explain what the patch does and what its implications for security really are. I would also appreciate information from anyone that has actually applied the patch on FreeBSD. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 01:28:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D111E16F51 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 01:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edgar@pettijohn-web.com) Received: from mail.pettijohn-web.com (pettijohn-web.com [108.61.222.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.pettijohn-web.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A7BA6B472 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 01:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edgar@pettijohn-web.com) Received: from FreeBSD (50.59.65.170 [50.59.65.170]) by mail.pettijohn-web.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id ae4f1c63 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:27:50 -0500 From: Edgar Pettijohn To: Ernie Luzar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help scripting dns lookup using awk Message-ID: <20170917012749.GA50553@FreeBSD> References: <59BB24E4.6060908@gmail.com> <20170915143019.2e02d386@gumby.homeunix.com> <59BC6036.8040709@gmail.com> <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 01:28:30 -0000 On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > Ernie, I've been following your questions over the last month or so. I > > think I can guess your problem domain, and I suspect if you told the > > list what you're trying to achieve you'd get much better suggested > > solutions. > > > > As it is I think you have one approach in mind, and all your questions > > relate to implementing parts of your idea. > > > > My humble apologies if I'm wrong; but please consider explaining what > > the overall problem is. (Someone mentioned x-y problems - I think you > > have one here.) > > Yes all my different posts over the last month are related to a solution > I am trying to development. It all started with what looked like a very > simple request from top management. "Stop employees from using social > media from company PCs while at work" The one and only Freebsd system > is the front door to the Company LAN and wifi. All LAN devices are > WINDOW machines either cabled or wifi including hand held smart phones. > So needed a single point solution that would effect the whole digital shop. > > You ask what about smart phones accessing their wireless service. In the > USA a wireless signal jammer is not legal if the people being effected > are un-aware of its existence. On being hired all employees sign a legal > contract containing security requirements and are made aware that a cell > phone wireless signal jammer is employed covering the Company estate and > that Company land lines phone service is the only allowed way for phone > contact with the public for personal and Company business. > > As the result of questions posted here, I learned about online providers > of "host" lists. These lists contain '127.0.0.1 domain-name" records of > known malware sites. These "host" lists can be used on WINDOWS and Unix > flavored operating systems by populating those machines host file. This > was not a single point solution. > > Along comes using dns as a single point solution. The 3 main players > being bind, unbound, and Dnsmasq which all have the function to be > populated with domain-names to be blocked at the local host level as not > found. I chose unbound, but am having problems with /etc/resolv.conf and > resolvconf not working as documented. Also could not get the built-in > local-unbound to work with any local changes. Posted questions here > which went un-answered. local-unbound and resolvconf are new and don't > have a user base yet to draw answers from. So pretty much a dead end. I > finally installed the port version of unbound and got it working. > > Using the public host files and unbound became a single point solution > to provide protection LAN wide that is un-seen by the user base. No more > installing browser plug-ins that tries to do the same blocking function. > The dns solution provides protection to the LAN users from LAN machines > that may become infected. There is no absolute solution just more layers > of protection. > > These public available "host" files contain a lot of un-necessary junk > that needed to be cleaned away. I wrote a .sh script to do this, but it > was very slow. Got help from this list to convert it to awk. Using the > same sample input file .sh took 7+ minutes, the awk version took 4 > seconds. No brainier about which version I plan to use. > > As the last step in massaging the raw "host" file content what'd to do a > dns lookup to verify those host domain-names were really good. Feeding > unbound bogus domain-names is not going to hurt anything, but just > wanted to be thorough. Again I started with a .sh script using the host > system command which is very slow, I got help here from the list to > convert it to awk and it was only a few seconds faster over all. I > changed the .sh script to use the drill system command and it ran in > half the time the host command version took. > > In reply to the subject of this post, I got the following; > > " Almost certainly the reason it's slow is that you are doing sequential > synchronous lookups. Switching to another language isn't going help > much. To speed it up you either need to switch to a language with a > DNS library that supports asynchronous lookups or fire-off parallel > child processes. The latter is easier." > > So I posted my last reply asking; > > How would I go about coding a sh script to fire-off parallel child > processes? > > The only "other language" installed on my front door host is perl > because its part of the apache pkg. I don't want to install another > language just because it has a fast pre-canned dns lookup. > > So if anyone knows of a perl dns lookup solution I sure would be > interested in hearing about it. > > While waiting for a reply to that last question I have done more > testing. Using the drill command version of the .sh script against a > "host" file containing 409 records which is the smallest file I have, > found that 174 host names return mddomain or serverror. So it's > oblivious that all 12 host files need dns verification. Thats 900,000+ > records. > > If I run that .sh script against the same host file I start receiving > this console message; > > Error: error sending query: Could not send or receive, because of > network error Looking at the source for drill. I believe this may be a generic error for the sending, or receiving of the dns packet. Perhaps a snippet of the script you are running showing how you are using drill may shed some light on it. > > The results indicate all the hosts were looked up. My isp provides 1gb > upload and 3gb download speeds so limited speed is not the cause of the > network error. > > Does anyone have any ideas about what is going here? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 02:14:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74721E1A70F for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC586D1FE for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.97.232.230]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id ASCq1w00J4yv82R01SCqoz; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 03:12:50 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [81.97.232.230] X-Authenticated-User: X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=SeoKDalu c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=obylDaYnIsVqxbenyIBF4Q==:117 a=obylDaYnIsVqxbenyIBF4Q==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=2JCJgTwv5E4A:10 a=eNcD7ojaAAAA:8 a=5l4X1vu6py5dhS5auckA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rRYMMicksRHQPzyJ67jW:22 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D374493AB; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 03:12:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 03:12:50 +0100 From: Ken Moffat To: Ernie Luzar Cc: Jonathan McKeown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help scripting dns lookup using awk Message-ID: <20170917021250.GA12346@milliways.localdomain> References: <59BB24E4.6060908@gmail.com> <20170915143019.2e02d386@gumby.homeunix.com> <59BC6036.8040709@gmail.com> <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.0 (2017-09-02) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:14:05 -0000 On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > The only "other language" installed on my front door host is perl because > its part of the apache pkg. I don't want to install another language just > because it has a fast pre-canned dns lookup. > Ernie, I'll start by admitting that I don't have any interest in this particular problem, and nor am I familiar with the differences between Free BSD tools and the "equivalents" I use on linux. But I get the general impression that google can often provide some help (although sometimes it can be a PITA to work out *what* search terms you need. OTOH, I suppose you aren't allowed to google for solutions ;-) If that is true, you really need to get that restriction removed. For perl, Net-DNS looks like the module you probably need : go to search.cpan.org (if you are allowed to do that) and look for it - maybe I'm wrong and the examples (i.e. example uses) listed on the summary page are not what you're trying to do with dns lookup. Regards, ĸen -- Truth, in front of her huge walk-in wardrobe, selected black leather boots with stiletto heels for such a barefaced truth. - Unseen Academicals From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 03:02:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC2AE1DCC4 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 03:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22b.google.com (mail-io0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B1796EF49 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 03:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 21so13212740iof.6 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LCDl+MkAO3D9jwB0N5sTwErNzWB+w71MOn3m3hgAw24=; b=YRXbXbVtr9/5083X8TyBsik0o0EnJ6Pk1mRXgmlY778AJbQGgBy1wAcn53XFm3i4m/ uuvU3s3uY2dfUImbj0LxN/ge/ZhGdkiSViqiZB/PURPqrF+HgKe2dkUkwlKxY59o6nhG QCbh8GTMI+SBMnCCHzTIlYpE/jXq5nI1DIv/05xTKT850SuXNtSVhuUwM4MLm+ttYfHK 9v6SrcNAW0ZoE41v1IduQXO+/aOx+14MUlRuPyBkCkYT2meqlQxYpuwj8bxUYOMD9te1 zPoBVU2/nFAfHzQr8t+D2KY1yDwV72ttdnywywKtCLu8C3C8YvdCG0FqoX2ClfKBoadd RoLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LCDl+MkAO3D9jwB0N5sTwErNzWB+w71MOn3m3hgAw24=; b=TLNZyfqp2FSN+ZIWxUM5GHzBbgfWHCYS5wnmHkInNFZ3hVEW8CnIb80nJ704OuV7mX pe5oTqd1iWuPZwFksH7HY48BTKPqasKIEpJzYqj9fuVgGacJjWIhit4L3ve6I71e7rWK 9NELcK2b0pu5MRlEUqBuTaD5pl8nSFs2PSZsIBA68bV6jS3vT11R55JNMlswrOqDB1c6 jOqLhsFAZUvfZKimIX7XVx548E1Bq/o1VQuIKI4IT1Ll211vvuwMDvvlS59qHhCgQWhP QAOV0YOvrNGpshGG3OentNyKYiIiTpDoCXSrJt6/r+vmj9YYpd3k017t6sZcwQmgKgaP NZEQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUio7/2B8NoG61+gXiFMkZrZ1n9qco6F0qIdNmI4iEo+/a2KkxMV ik5qGshjf85BufrV/JV/Ik9B6X3uDJ/KgwmZfk2OmQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBFOsydjBi5dmt4VXbBUdB3vtkKKSt/JJMSw9Pz1n6OfE4FbSDfY77w6uolyLeMVriIL9jhwSTFW+ao2WRdxHI= X-Received: by 10.107.183.213 with SMTP id h204mr15981630iof.61.1505617350838; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:02:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.145.141 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:02:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Vande More Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 22:02:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of SAMBA on FreeBSD To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 03:02:31 -0000 On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 8:19 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Sat, September 16, 2017 19:49, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:02 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions > > < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Are you trying this in a jail? Did you read the relevant UPDATING > > entry? > > > > 1. No, this is not being attempted in a jail. > > 2. Yes, but this is not an update of an existing samba DC but a new > installation. The pkg built on FreeBSD-11 but it will not provision > as a DC. > > The issue is tied to the implementation of extended attributes which > somehow differs under FreeBSD from Linux. My question was directed at > the FreeBSD maintainers since the package maintainer is constrained by > the limits enforced by the operating system.A work around that is > reported to work is to patch Damba 4.6 to use the default namespace > which approach the Samba team deprecate as being insecure. > The bug you linked to has nothing to do with the issue of trying to provision a DC on a non-jailed FreeBSD installation. Google tells me you already have the answer as to why this particular issue doesn't work. http://lists-archives.com/samba/106557-freebsd-11-and-samba-4-6-as-a-dc.html Is there some critical reason you can't simply use 4.5 until this is resolved? Or use an OS that supports this? -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 07:21:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D22E0132D for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E34A75A04 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5681619A8 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help scripting dns lookup using awk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <59BB24E4.6060908@gmail.com> <20170915143019.2e02d386@gumby.homeunix.com> <59BC6036.8040709@gmail.com> <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <70d0b776-f250-594d-5e47-f80c1077b425@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:21:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0arvEkvVCv2phiExtAwtFtnbxHI8Rk9Tu" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:21:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --0arvEkvVCv2phiExtAwtFtnbxHI8Rk9Tu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2V4w9acuWIuq2Qi6E5hfDTSC8NBw4D2rx"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <70d0b776-f250-594d-5e47-f80c1077b425@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Help scripting dns lookup using awk References: <59BB24E4.6060908@gmail.com> <20170915143019.2e02d386@gumby.homeunix.com> <59BC6036.8040709@gmail.com> <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> --2V4w9acuWIuq2Qi6E5hfDTSC8NBw4D2rx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/09/2017 15:24, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Yes all my different posts over the last month are related to a solutio= n > I am trying to development. It all started with what looked like a very= > simple request from top management. "Stop employees from using social > media from company PCs while at work"=C2=A0 The one and only Freebsd sy= stem > is the front door to the Company LAN and wifi. All LAN devices are > WINDOW machines either cabled or wifi including hand held smart phones.= > So needed a single point solution that would effect the whole digital s= hop. The canonical solution to this sort of requirement is to implement a web proxy on the egress from your network. Within the proxy you maintain a blacklist of forbidden sites that it will refuse to provide service to. The trick is to use firewall redirection to force any and all web traffic to hit the proxy, and permit only the proxy to make web requests from your corporate network to the outside world -- the term is "transparent proxy." This works best with unencrypted traffic, but can also be made to work with HTTPS, although not quite as effectively. It is also possible for a motivated person to use VPN software to get around this sort of restriction, but anyone so desperate to evade your corporate policies is probably better handled by your HR department than by getting into a technological arms-race. Cheers, Matthew --2V4w9acuWIuq2Qi6E5hfDTSC8NBw4D2rx-- --0arvEkvVCv2phiExtAwtFtnbxHI8Rk9Tu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJZviJ7XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATzrsP/0U0gM2+6TwnGam2es3hP6Rq uouDVO4ckHBW/VPYmnTwQe094CAWrRfoQI7N7OOh1qHv3F3sxwT4y2zXhHYnSEtC 33mdflqxqm6bs8cPQ0IqLpBIxbgs1EkhCr0Yq6sc8VZJqG4rdHUQg9b289KCpSDZ LoXIOEL0JwkB0Ub5kj/uMwFk7JI8pgckaWZ2TkVkB3g6Hfz0hLu6NXbzW+V5lla3 FUiHHoJ/Unz6vbRmJzYk8Y+k177yt+v4FVwGWjsoWzoqXb9yhP75TT2bti2/It4Y hqis5pixOwK17URejmWVQsV0bJ5vehiXzIhIJ12/ajqGiy+M20IvW7KC+K1PGj86 BQuUvWjrnQneLHWwkcZ1cmJ2GP6uwHqBa95+QgHXuY1/S2kuQNmLzB16myQ7slLq JSUgCTt4js4FdeQ92aUgvuFmxEeydFk0HC/7liYvHT9LqxFDd6UPFHeHe6tCn5a/ 7NGkWwxtSh8mC7d1B90X0oM2zckk1ymAuieQelts6/rJYNAiI/y1eob1eIIPLHhY IsgrSDBZPCbampCRHAh76qy89O9aY/cbIzdgAR6NehI++DNatjZKFh9YZoylZ+TZ INDspU4Nv+UvTMVvq/1cp6gs0lWKdhriOO/C2zNQF0sjvBFA4uzBE+Mum+fMa2Vp A/R8owzasieAdycmGHcc =RQk9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0arvEkvVCv2phiExtAwtFtnbxHI8Rk9Tu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 08:26:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC89E034D3 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6ABA76F3A for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1505636792; x=1508228792; h=x-thread-info:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HmteFSBngKeY4XrS4/4P5qTBvU1uuocOMiOoAIZUGsE=; b=ZACxi3gVgR1miHSiZ2lAJL6JdD5wJ5JkYZUMBnc8bmH4jJ9TrNfZ1HF0eiu8D6f79NU9pVPobIcLLOv/u5mT9ajIvh0Ovzyf/ZGR6DuBfQ72pi0TK5Cl73ufVvy+1efanyEah9Lakx+QgDqKzaZUnn4HyIyLzAo70ptnAQNsW7o= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi5lMTAwMDAwMDIzMTEwZi5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 04:26:17 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 04:26:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1dtUuB-000JXj-NB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:26:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:26:19 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help scripting dns lookup using awk Message-Id: <20170917092619.86bbda0e16ddb3a06120c65f@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <70d0b776-f250-594d-5e47-f80c1077b425@FreeBSD.org> References: <59BB24E4.6060908@gmail.com> <20170915143019.2e02d386@gumby.homeunix.com> <59BC6036.8040709@gmail.com> <59BD3410.80708@gmail.com> <70d0b776-f250-594d-5e47-f80c1077b425@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:26:38 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:21:23 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > This works best with unencrypted traffic, but can also be made to work > with HTTPS, although not quite as effectively. It is also possible for > a motivated person to use VPN software to get around this sort of > restriction, Blocking all unproxied outside access kills that option, leaving esoterica like IP/DNS as the only options to bypass security. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 08:44:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC14DE03E9B for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk [95.142.156.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B60FA775CE for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk (unknown [82.71.56.121]) (Authenticated sender: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk) by outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0C79826164765; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:29:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (helo=curlew) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dtV3N-0000jw-Hz; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:35:54 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:35:49 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: Scott Ballantyne Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20170917093549.6edaf66e@curlew> In-Reply-To: <20170916152354.2192.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> References: <20170916121755.1297.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> <20170916152354.2192.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: Curious pkg upgrade behavior Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:44:45 -0000 On 16 Sep 2017 15:23:54 -0000 Scott Ballantyne wrote: > I was running samba43 prior to this. The second run of pkg uninstaled > Samba 43-4.3.11 and installed samba44-4.4.15. It also upgraded gvfs. 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NAT or BRIDGED ADAPTOR in virtual machine ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "manash pal" Organization: cybertron Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:53:07 -0000 kindly let me know that which network protocol should I choose ? NAT or BRIDGED ADAPTOR in virtual machine ? can I use it as a dual boot with windows 10 ? any help would be appreciated . -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 13:52:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DFDE1348A for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zgreenfelder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3849084641 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zgreenfelder@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id e71so16735561wmg.4 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=NxHxQPQIN+PD8fghX4dLm2/NDfUNPCNSJ9FcRIYfEE8=; b=BY2BfuDzNkUntEDUPXOk1UCtzW7HjbqsUG2PitggLmCbhWjyPHvLAEIVD5lW+laaGB aLhRyBnmTrtTNl4FlcSZ9UXxBIaeWyqxdmNd4G2lfZ5u61rqCfx4rcWluoEQAs0hcOlK UkQ8J8O1eskUvfAWDW953dx27BTR5HiLye5s4iYpmxvcMQ6QslvV//HkFQioAHv+9bJR jpLX7mx3liMwwp6R8R4/Nf8iiizsQTrx7D6dm9lxUP2S7wPP2VU0edawUw+cmxTJB5Ec OIi3I9/ZPitZXUPwYaOoJbBcY0noWAgORE+vkmH0ffNgkdL+lsgvoosHdt4xb+g04X/g lpWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=NxHxQPQIN+PD8fghX4dLm2/NDfUNPCNSJ9FcRIYfEE8=; b=iGagK5gu3wfcSvFJhE4vkwUMZloAqF5beV+VMBEuOF1xoSlwrh3RAPoM3PzCBm7qGF GjaROp/zMJYCC47gn7lrX47HMvB6RMDsyxKLg32ljEnvS41QYp0xtwMTt0NtKg006/3D +csA2nbVLKxyk5VYvU40gzBGSvjpg0+1+jk3p5bQuZFZNYTEemuMYFRmVVtmVZ/b1XbP aLdq6+HNW1kMKhUCRf7iajf4cyWNx6v0jeTOvql/gz8D4mPPp5fgJSYkj2nTOsysPA/3 eguHCyr2FYwtW9/nMcaxYmpdhSb8RP22vYkzl7MqEoAKhQul05dkOgakwK6vwQ5bmCCK Ccqg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgF78/5TK5vXsOcGQOB4p/Z9hhsoFwK9SmZ0u03C3a1Ej0h64ve gyZdfdpitWlbKpOBHvfkDe80PRPMyZlNAoV80sk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb7Em/CJLOgVjfEiUmnshuQfoV+iLJWj+XeKX9q8TQBlLaYSqgirFP9UoiVk+kcEQB5mOyfa5SkBB7aezy8Pb3k= X-Received: by 10.80.217.195 with SMTP id x3mr16905506edj.258.1505656331413; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 06:52:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.171.130 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 06:52:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: zGreenfelder Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:52:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: which network protocol should I choose ? NAT or BRIDGED ADAPTOR in virtual machine ? To: manash pal , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:52:13 -0000 I think you need to work on your question On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:53 AM, manash pal wrote: > > kindly let me know that which network protocol should I choose ? NAT or > BRIDGED ADAPTOR in virtual machine ? can I use it as a dual boot with > windows 10 ? that's somewhat similar to asking 'should I buy a subcompact car or a truck?' the only real answer anyone could give would be 'maybe' NAT means the hypervisor running the machine does Network Address Translation and all network connections for the vm are masqueraded as the hypervisor - any connections to other servers would seem to originate from your machine running virtualbox and no direct connections could be made to your VM from any other host. bridge adapter is like a second, virtual adapter is connected to the same physical wire as your hypervisor, giving it the same access to the same network as the machine running virtualbox. I don't understand what you're asking with the second part about dual booting. > > any help would be appreciated . > -- > Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Even the Magic 8 ball has an opinion on email clients: Outlook not so good. 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[74.141.88.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v193sm1813693itc.44.2017.09.17.07.42.42 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:42:41 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: case command Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:42:44 -0000 Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to change all uppercase content to lower case. Is there such a command line command? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 14:46:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83B7E16611 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC8CC1A20 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8HEk0AY036030 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:46:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: case command To: Ernie Luzar , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:45:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:46:00 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: v8HEk0AY036030 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.92, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.08, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.00) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:46:13 -0000 On 09/17/2017 09:42 AM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to change > all uppercase content to lower case. > > Is there such a command line command? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" man tr -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 14:50:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF55AE16A38 for ; 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Re/ the question itself: man dd matthias --=20 Sent from my Ubuntu phone http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 15:04:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF23E179A5 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.178.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 792B02665 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: SDC5hEwVM1lXqUefL_Hji6Lj19u62llZ7ADIPnFoaYcErEfAcwVk3kHUrPsXOr5 xPf2i.elnAkeo66sFhO0aHQxqLaJvqYkeOCdF8MlbPtbPAlaQQY_yUHtz124eBNhg9NM7CYBXVvT k_NjIseZ2cJMWkYc_aVrvnj5N8pigdWf3vEZqtBqQsB7WP5TTFkJ16EAxzBE_f5yABStcHwZ8bYv u3G5jnNA_l64nLFbQDWyKhNaoJAYnKwaMwXFRmCyodZzFxA7rbrgfVTgokSpof1b6cL0ZcoL.IT1 XtEXwVDylGDBjAQWqvkjoSDaIVRQ_6Bqhv.l2HK1ywV0aB4KhJ5B8rTiF_78lfY8NdsXXuH8VzOY EL2zN5.c9aikyCFambVYF8L5F6GWcEPRYYoMge3pqjPn.zFDHpKwSwYS3Sln2aYhdOBknbdRYfpr 2jnH831.iVryDdxm_peNLLP7IpL1hgwcCOT7imE32LxiASQIlfWC9PT3eroVfH1liOJQvRrHgOHl Gy0ZqGfGHqJlStm2P62uvN7ruR6OZN5e7ynOLwQiV168- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:04:20 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2017 15:03:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 205976.12163.bm@smtp123.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: SDC5hEwVM1lXqUefL_Hji6Lj19u62llZ7ADIPnFoaYcErEf AcwVk3kHUrPsXOr5xPf2i.elnAkeo66sFhO0aHQxqLaJvqYkeOCdF8MlbPtb PAlaQQY_yUHtz124eBNhg9NM7CYBXVvTk_NjIseZ2cJMWkYc_aVrvnj5N8pi gdWf3vEZqtBqQsB7WP5TTFkJ16EAxzBE_f5yABStcHwZ8bYvu3G5jnNA_l64 nLFbQDWyKhNaoJAYnKwaMwXFRmCyodZzFxA7rbrgfVTgokSpof1b6cL0ZcoL .IT1XtEXwVDylGDBjAQWqvkjoSDaIVRQ_6Bqhv.l2HK1ywV0aB4KhJ5B8rTi F_78lfY8NdsXXuH8VzOYEL2zN5.c9aikyCFambVYF8L5F6GWcEPRYYoMge3p qjPn.zFDHpKwSwYS3Sln2aYhdOBknbdRYfpr2jnH831.iVryDdxm_peNLLP7 IpL1hgwcCOT7imE32LxiASQIlfWC9PT3eroVfH1liOJQvRrHgOHlGy0ZqGfG HqJlStm2P62uvN7ruR6OZN5e7ynOLwQiV168- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:03:29 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: case command Message-ID: <20170917170329.7d9aff02@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:04:30 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:50:00 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: >cat | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' $ cd /tmp/ $ echo "ABC" > test-file-1.txt $ echo "ABC" > test-file-2.txt $ cat test-file-1.txt | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' > new-output-file-1.txt $ tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' < test-file-2.txt > new-output-file-2.txt $ cat *txt abc abc ABC ABC . From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 15:08:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992BBE17DB1 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BC7327E0 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8HF82rD036489 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:08:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: case command To: Manish Jain , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917155649.e869897ddcc97c3c9d04929c@sohara.org> From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:07:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:08:02 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: v8HF82rD036489 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.919, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.08, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.00) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:08:07 -0000 On 09/17/2017 10:01 AM, Manish Jain wrote: > > > On 09/17/17 20:26, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:50:00 +0000 >> Manish Jain wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 09/17/17 20:12, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>>> Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to change >>>> all uppercase content to lower case. >>>> >>>> Is there such a command line command? >>> >>> cat | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' >> >> That poor overworked cat :) >> >> tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' < >> > > Being the proud owner of a beautiful cat, I rather feel inclined to pay > tribute to the family every now and then : - ) > > Regards > Manish Jain My CEC (Chief Executive Cat) has done a code review and suggests you can possibly give the kitties a rest break if you quit hitting the pipe: tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36022E18F50 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic306-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic306-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C624A30F7 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: p8DbBWwVM1kcC05gmAz35WfW9BPV9gbX.foScpiCqq1aZERt3MGTgUXUieF2zTE KjEzY8F8snAkntlCoMLchuYOj0S0MaTrFzrNzF7rMJgBs0e4voHebJ05edvKeweIzV4z3hBUw5qq 6ZeE6399Br1dcXF3CMB6GZhghP5VzUs8WN58nkJ8pUmdZLMVuPVraILt0IuUsQAg5QyH9uxz_5U4 p6KxMSUmYjJK447T1sRfMNXBx0MSIP4PdeWm2U2B_QHWRMsrD82TFQdFslziVmVUja4pb0wyCYny lPWeCfamxW36ENcFAnOmaWQkL0TXQvT_zxauBMQ5FVZ2iw04qkwOSkJaULoeuw6aKxO3udqmZ1gT DKniGiYizj0X3D4HmkUNFB2peb1GAE3rpz8giPaDK7v68XTpu4Gr41frsKmd_hfukMr11tQdIu6N XueGzJrIPcdVtbx8ReOimHXyWBA.sX836Q2Nl5wD.QST06OuNOBL.UmCfOi0zeYTyEOLt9oxrdtQ jJl1llgbaQPRKo69nviqReECQkJmKjF7pJ2N3yX8- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:29:19 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2017 15:29:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 669175.24598.bm@smtp102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: p8DbBWwVM1kcC05gmAz35WfW9BPV9gbX.foScpiCqq1aZER t3MGTgUXUieF2zTEKjEzY8F8snAkntlCoMLchuYOj0S0MaTrFzrNzF7rMJgB s0e4voHebJ05edvKeweIzV4z3hBUw5qq6ZeE6399Br1dcXF3CMB6GZhghP5V zUs8WN58nkJ8pUmdZLMVuPVraILt0IuUsQAg5QyH9uxz_5U4p6KxMSUmYjJK 447T1sRfMNXBx0MSIP4PdeWm2U2B_QHWRMsrD82TFQdFslziVmVUja4pb0wy CYnylPWeCfamxW36ENcFAnOmaWQkL0TXQvT_zxauBMQ5FVZ2iw04qkwOSkJa ULoeuw6aKxO3udqmZ1gTDKniGiYizj0X3D4HmkUNFB2peb1GAE3rpz8giPaD K7v68XTpu4Gr41frsKmd_hfukMr11tQdIu6NXueGzJrIPcdVtbx8ReOimHXy WBA.sX836Q2Nl5wD.QST06OuNOBL.UmCfOi0zeYTyEOLt9oxrdtQjJl1llgb aQPRKo69nviqReECQkJmKjF7pJ2N3yX8- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:29:15 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: case command Message-ID: <20170917172915.69e19f08@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917155649.e869897ddcc97c3c9d04929c@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:29:27 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:07:56 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >>>> On 09/17/17 20:12, Ernie Luzar wrote: > tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:50:00 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: >>cat | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' > >$ cd /tmp/ >$ echo "ABC" > test-file-1.txt >$ echo "ABC" > test-file-2.txt >$ cat test-file-1.txt | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' > >new-output-file-1.txt $ tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' < test-file-2.txt > >new-output-file-2.txt $ cat *txt >abc >abc >ABC >ABC And in case "sudo" should be needed, then replace ">" by "| sudo tee". https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tee&sektion=1&apropos=0&manpath=redhat . From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 16:44:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2ADE1D473 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from n6.nabble.com (n6.nabble.com [162.255.23.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBD764993 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from n6.nabble.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by n6.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C611BE0703 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:44:56 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:44:56 -0700 (MST) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1505666696664-0.post@n6.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <0b067690-3157-09dc-b8b3-9a29e0bc4ecf@tundraware.com> References: <45657887-638e-bb6d-c318-7046fdea1ca6@tundraware.com> <41839.128.135.52.6.1498062473.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <3a2eabbe-1bef-5c56-f7af-8f054baa87e5@tundraware.com> <18281.128.135.52.6.1498079040.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <0b067690-3157-09dc-b8b3-9a29e0bc4ecf@tundraware.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux SSD Write Speeds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:44:59 -0000 > I happen to have an unused 256G Kingston V300 SSD. When I get a moment, > I want to test speeds against the bare drive on both machines, and then > via the filesystem on each. That way the drive would no longer be the > variable. Only way to do it imho, but ideally should be the same machine too. -- Sent from: http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/freebsd-questions-f3696945.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 17:01:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3334E1E499 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic301-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic301-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50C00652FD for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: jm33SagVM1lIjDKYELuJ6eohCS_KaednAssBjI5aCe7E393CS_H3el16gNHw6MD wkRV5pgUxM6zYZU3X0F2TYkC8aQJqDaBg7ZMaqd6KDHh.3Dcs_QPtuSJ2v5hW1DDQniU4rYlxR5b a9kLU.5oim4_fCoPX4iqvSDvIff1DNPB8XyIOH3apOZDNEWO8w67OcBupPKqaVpChMa5SI7GSU2j Y14zsRO42nL1LxSOU0GQtGw38_rJJEPadpU3OIQwNnFHoGJLKtSzc2kXISnPlzNlue9PGvIRr9Po ugr.tSkr6H2AoPaYRJeoQLWhL6mq76SMKaEDfF7GZl3I.Q1FC2OwEk32z.LURs3iFHIbdUctllgG .4vMu0Ioqjna8zIEMadPtfrP5kz8HVwm_wYZNVEdhwDb.p6oJ27aB4_rsIkSaxgVyG6.ZKrmNTbp CmW9FhffShh3vv6Y4juau7y4qYbXTequql6Yin51EA9Gzn92V.byXxLHVtyuoMeWBRTn59vG5DI6 jViogEjNK65dPLVnv2JG4rQB4T32ZvgGGG2MSF9c- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:01:36 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp136.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2017 15:09:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 347143.78358.bm@smtp136.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jm33SagVM1lIjDKYELuJ6eohCS_KaednAssBjI5aCe7E393 CS_H3el16gNHw6MDwkRV5pgUxM6zYZU3X0F2TYkC8aQJqDaBg7ZMaqd6KDHh .3Dcs_QPtuSJ2v5hW1DDQniU4rYlxR5ba9kLU.5oim4_fCoPX4iqvSDvIff1 DNPB8XyIOH3apOZDNEWO8w67OcBupPKqaVpChMa5SI7GSU2jY14zsRO42nL1 LxSOU0GQtGw38_rJJEPadpU3OIQwNnFHoGJLKtSzc2kXISnPlzNlue9PGvIR r9Pougr.tSkr6H2AoPaYRJeoQLWhL6mq76SMKaEDfF7GZl3I.Q1FC2OwEk32 z.LURs3iFHIbdUctllgG.4vMu0Ioqjna8zIEMadPtfrP5kz8HVwm_wYZNVEd hwDb.p6oJ27aB4_rsIkSaxgVyG6.ZKrmNTbpCmW9FhffShh3vv6Y4juau7y4 qYbXTequql6Yin51EA9Gzn92V.byXxLHVtyuoMeWBRTn59vG5DI6jViogEjN K65dPLVnv2JG4rQB4T32ZvgGGG2MSF9c- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:09:25 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: case command Message-ID: <20170917170925.5f22db9b@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170917170329.7d9aff02@archlinux.localdomain> References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917170329.7d9aff02@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:01:45 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:03:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:50:00 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: >>cat | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' > >$ cd /tmp/ >$ echo "ABC" > test-file-1.txt >$ echo "ABC" > test-file-2.txt >$ cat test-file-1.txt | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' > >new-output-file-1.txt $ tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' < test-file-2.txt > >new-output-file-2.txt $ cat *txt >abc >abc >ABC >ABC And in case "sudo" should be needed, then replace ">" by "| sudo tee". https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tee&sektion=1&apropos=0&manpath=redhat . From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 17:12:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D8CE1EFA9 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ctron580@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x236.google.com (mail-pf0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7677C65A17 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ctron580@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x236.google.com with SMTP id r71so3680955pfe.12 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:12:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:to:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from :organization:message-id:user-agent; bh=sXjj3+4DAbGq48IFEro+dq4QCgeA6apcIJVFI6C4x08=; b=UAQg4YvIpag1gKRzjpfo1wHBVvuAZsGr0QeGHba00EN7EZUN34492XTRl6XVqSLuQ+ 2HFslaikXC7Ei39vlwLq2a5PYCD0EYlHsQO6aMb2qGd5MUGCXQoSeBxARfbUhcY84xOB bYJLOpUR/gZoWFkb+XiQ/5/EHYDIv0QHhrS94SWG7HXv3/Pi+CV+6O/eurMF7LQigF8G HMDepBM83L3LQOhmo36P0wNq941JJkRyUmINSFz6LZObn0d7/OCry3mKFcqS4AX5VmRb hLEnD27KIJ4dTx+Mt4CL32/+b6x5J8IKMUPiMMexnanoFVKWgNTREIyao0VA/MJ2A6G6 9RTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:to:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:organization:message-id:user-agent; bh=sXjj3+4DAbGq48IFEro+dq4QCgeA6apcIJVFI6C4x08=; b=rFYG/1RXDCDs42m+Dncy18vAyW/G+PcnCsfkeFf7y5DdR8P5ux/PXfSyYkZES7XBLK nPPl4aJOuVWPXR6dOt5ebHiBQp+LokB3VmOSmSaCShamuUGPM8EtQYDlRSiRncscCUZE AL6OZMz1U3zzA7vhD8ggk9A0MFdztz/OlezShteBJPcCrp3TVYvrqvaB27Xi2QN3mHmk rW+sjtcOw6olP0cllhIf/YsQ1zfLF24kDEs66zukotE42SqMgM9oyZEzYQduPEBBS17w ydKSml65nR9uLpP6GQJkGm4XWgrtN8MqW4lrc4kiE/a5wcpZwMIKCDlAngEorgsLdERA cySQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgW/JJih7m8pValfdD9VrpxEUuyYeb44PcoL22aJZ2M8vDVakCE dOoABChvcAMZmNaBmcU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCl5SRFUViRULPYnBJtkquqT3DvhrtwOeXi3PkqyVz4R+h83i208XGN3mDvNda9nIUtJZMHTA== X-Received: by 10.84.142.131 with SMTP id 3mr1155247plx.328.1505668325540; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from desktop-jvp5q7f ([43.251.168.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x13sm11567398pgt.16.2017.09.17.10.12.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:41:59 +0530 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: how to install " Epson L 380 Printer " and " Hp Deskjet 1515 in Free BSD ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "manash pal" Organization: cybertron Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:12:06 -0000 kindly let me know the steps regarding installing of these two printers in my system ... I googled the matter , but did not find any suitable demonstration ....... -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 17:38:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE21E2056A for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12D2A664A8 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:37:24 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0638F3CBF9; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:37:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HHbN53002111; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:37:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:37:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: case command Message-Id: <20170917193722.7d2ecbe3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 532C7683548 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1334 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:38:05 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:42:41 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to change > all uppercase content to lower case. > > Is there such a command line command? Several ones. One is to use tr: ... | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' | ... Or with character classes: ... | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:] | ... You can also use awk for this task: ... | awk '{ print tolower($0) }' | ... You can use this within the awk portion of your script, too. Or shortened: ... | awk '{ print tolower }' | ... But keep in mind: Things like german Umlauts usually won't be processed correctly. Those are a few possible solutions. There are more. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 17:40:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE53E2085D for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C285E665E0 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:40:21 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 119513CBF9; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:40:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HHeKgv002117; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:40:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:40:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: case command Message-Id: <20170917194020.8f6db248.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917155649.e869897ddcc97c3c9d04929c@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 5B35F763B27 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1304 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:40:31 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:01:32 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > > On 09/17/17 20:26, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:50:00 +0000 > > Manish Jain wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On 09/17/17 20:12, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >>> Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to change > >>> all uppercase content to lower case. > >>> > >>> Is there such a command line command? > >> > >> cat | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' > > > > That poor overworked cat :) > > > > tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' < > > > > Being the proud owner of a beautiful cat, I rather feel inclined to pay > tribute to the family every now and then : - ) The typical "useless use of cat" often is just an illustration of how to use a certain command within a pipe chain. In cases where no piping is needed, redirection can be used easily. % cat food.txt | grep "catfood" > mister_kitty.txt Or: % grep "catfood" < food.txt > mister_kitty.txt I hope the cat will understand now. =^_^= -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Message-Id: <20170917195133.2238c714.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with C1B036A356C X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1720 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:51:44 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:41:59 +0530, manash pal wrote: > kindly let me know the steps regarding installing of these two printers in > my system ... I googled the matter , but did not find any suitable > demonstration ....... Install CUPS first, then go to "localhost:631" with a web browser. Use the "find new printers" function to have CUPS detect the printer and load the required driver automatically. You can supply a PPD if you have one. It might be needed to install "hplip" or "hpijs" or "hpcups" with pkg in addition to CUPS. Additional information: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/cups/ It's really easy as long as your printer supports standards. You can verify supported device (by hplip) on this page: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html I see a "HP Deskjet Ink Advantage 1515" All-in-one Printer" is supported, but I only find the "HP Deskjet F380", no "L380" model in the lists; maybe that one is compatible to something else, or works with the "foo2zjs" driver package ("Splix")? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Message-Id: <20170917195703.b8b89e85.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 3162E683679 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1327 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:57:08 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:51:06 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > > On 09/17/17 22:41, manash pal wrote: > > kindly let me know the steps regarding installing of these two printers > > in my system ... I googled the matter , but did not find any suitable > > demonstration ....... > > > > I don't know about Epson for sure, but HP should be easy. Ha! Epson! Sorry for the confusion! Of course Epson != HP. Test if CUPS detects the printer. There seems to be a Linux proprietary driver for the Epson L 380, maybe it can be used on FreeBSD, too? (FreeBSD is able to run Linux software.) But as I said, first check what CUPS can autodetect itself, maybe everything you need is already there. > Before you try the above, put this in /etc/rc.conf and reboot : > > cupsd_enable=YES Use cups_enable="YES" for consistency as suggested by OS entries. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[74.141.88.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o135sm1987099ith.30.2017.09.17.10.59.33 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59BEB804.7000801@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:59:32 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: unbound & local-zones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:59:34 -0000 I have noticed something that doesn't seem right. I added 1150 local-zones to unbound. From any LAN device browser trying to go to any of the those fqdn gets "can't reach this page" message just like its suppose to. The I ran a script that reads that 1150 fqdn file doing the host command. Again all those host name get nxdomain just like its suppose to. But here is what don't seem right. Watching the modem connected to the public internet I see the rapid blinking of the rend/receive lights for the duration the script is running. This happens ever time I run the script. It's my understanding that any dns request for any fqdn in unbound's local-zone list is serviced by unbound without going to the public internet. IE; I should not see the modem rend/receive lights blinking like mad. Any ideas on why I am seeing this behaviors? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 18:06:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8EFE22283 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patriciahernandezvargas@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8368167C38 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patriciahernandezvargas@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7F8E2E22282; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2CDE22281 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patriciahernandezvargas@gmail.com) Received: from server1.rapidhosting2.com (server1.rapidhosting2.com [205.186.137.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 576A067C36 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patriciahernandezvargas@gmail.com) Received: from [62.113.208.89] (port=56609 helo=vm3072.rootwelt.de) by server1.rapidhosting2.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dtTXl-0004iy-AX for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:59:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:00:05 +0000 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "questions@gmail.com" Subject: Do you have a symptoms of frequent urination, intense thirst and hunger, weight gain, unusual weight loss and fatigue? Don't ignore it, that is Diabetes or referred to by doctors as Diabetes mellitus. 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Message-ID: <20170917205308.7682b73a@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:54:28 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:41:59 +0530 "manash pal" wrote: > kindly let me know the steps regarding installing of these two printers in > my system ... I googled the matter , but did not find any suitable > demonstration ....... Install print/epson-inkjet-printer-201601w and print/hplip. Add cupsd_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf and run 'service cupsd start'. Add linux_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf and run 'service abi start'. Go to http://localhost:631 and add the Epson printer. The HP printer can be added via http://localhost:631 or via 'HP Device Manager' that you can find in your desktop application menu. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 19:43:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7EFE001E1 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E252F6B2F3 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:23 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CAF93CBF9 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HJhLYo002945 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Disk not spinning up Message-Id: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with CC631683848 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1379 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:43:26 -0000 This is more a hardware question than a FreeBSD question, but as FreeBSD is involved, I think it's worth being asked here due to the experienced, intelligent, creative and (in an entirely positive sense) "unusual" participants on this list. I have a harddisk Quantum Fireball with ca. 1 GB capacity (yes, that's GB, not TB). It's a (P)ATA / "IDE" disk with a 40 pin connector for a flat cable, configured as master. The disk has been in use in a system that I built around 1995 and which I occasionaly used over the years. The last system activation was yesterday. Today, the disk just didn't spin up again. After extracting the disk from the system and using my fine "forensics adaptor" to power it, it made short cranking sounds (ca. 1 per second) and short beeps from time to time, then went silent. I can repeat this. Now I probably did something stupid, but a radio amateur friend had success with this approach on a 40 MB disk (yes, that's MB, not GB). I _opened_ the disk (with gloves, face mask and cap, just to minimize the dust falling from my head into the disk) and saw the central motor "rotate" clockwise and counterclockwise for less than 1/4 rotation. I tried to "help" the disk spin up as you can imagine, but it would not do so. My question: Had anyone had success getting such a disk work again? Is it worth searching my "museum" for a replacement controller? Or does it look more like a motor failure than a controller failure? I can read the disk with my "forensics adapter" like this (tested with the other 1.2 GB disk from the same system): $ sudo mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da3s1 /mnt That's the FreeBSD-related part in this question. But of course, a disk not spinning up won't be recognized by the system. I'd like to at least access the disk once to copy as much as I can. Are there any ideas, options, chances, suggestions or experiments other than "throw it out of the window"? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 19:55:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AFAE00E1C for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 795126B9E4 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1908F622BE; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:55:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7dP30U86r_An; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9563E621F6; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:55:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1505678134; bh=Ltxi1VeSN0FI6uf0xscrIGwZUckFZWigBnbwCq3Bniw=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=rhNU9sX3nmwMHEp1v4VFII4eDcQMXltQizdEAizAp2KlNxTrulGO+eJzM2HFIdNOc adBSdpkEy/4dyBC3C0VWmagtQDKNcMdl3h6TjpCU3D3KSjYQi73PTfD2P9FvRkBYIC ERv5tnJpRJ+LUx37b/IL6DRUmjkilxWny1XR5ZpUdmlm6yLvdAUYYKEnqnWZt42DMW R6ZMKRh8T4qkuuMNU1OzPo5kghGr3y95Tp78F47HybQirQGOttrZTVslavwy7BpBRo VwMeW/nfUSJHPAt6ihL/xwjgPZGlrKA8YE1+q3YFkdRhM0LP1BiNmVwSUharq9LQIJ UmP/2UckB6MRg== Received: from 216.185.71.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:55:34 -0400 Message-ID: <411eb82456c15c41763909673a63208b.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:55:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Future of SAMBA on FreeBSD From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Adam Vande More" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:55:43 -0000 On Sat, September 16, 2017 23:02, Adam Vande More wrote: >> > > The bug you linked to has nothing to do with the issue of trying to > provision a DC on a non-jailed FreeBSD installation. The issue the bug addresses may not, but the bug itself certainly does. > > Google tells me you already have the answer as to why this particular > issue doesn't work. > > http://lists-archives.com/samba/106557-freebsd-11-and-samba-4-6-as-a-dc.html > Recall that my original question was whether or not Samba 4.6 would ever be supported on FreeBSD-11+; not when will it be supported or why is it not supported. Which was a somewhat passive way of asking if any progress had been made on resolving the underlying issue. As I understand the situation the Samba team's point of view is that this is a problem for the FreeBSD team to address. For now we a running Samba 4.3 which is mostly satisfactory. > Is there some critical reason you can't simply use 4.5 until this is > resolved? Or use an OS that supports this? > I had exactly the same provisioning problem with 4.5 and 4.4. The last version of Samba that provisioned successfully for me on FreeBSD-11 was 4.3. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 19:57:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69BAE01002 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F6836BB47 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3DAFD1A9D for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:57:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dTH7BsxvEH9jLWUtLSBSHKuF5cAQp2XKL" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:57:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dTH7BsxvEH9jLWUtLSBSHKuF5cAQp2XKL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="fMsbjjpvccX2ArvverftNE7lW6LL0GTHr"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> --fMsbjjpvccX2ArvverftNE7lW6LL0GTHr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17/09/2017 20:43, Polytropon wrote: > This is more a hardware question than a FreeBSD question, but > as FreeBSD is involved, I think it's worth being asked here > due to the experienced, intelligent, creative and (in an > entirely positive sense) "unusual" participants on this list. >=20 > I have a harddisk Quantum Fireball with ca. 1 GB capacity > (yes, that's GB, not TB). It's a (P)ATA / "IDE" disk with > a 40 pin connector for a flat cable, configured as master. >=20 > The disk has been in use in a system that I built around 1995 > and which I occasionaly used over the years. The last system > activation was yesterday. Today, the disk just didn't spin up > again. >=20 > After extracting the disk from the system and using my fine > "forensics adaptor" to power it, it made short cranking sounds > (ca. 1 per second) and short beeps from time to time, then went > silent. I can repeat this. >=20 > Now I probably did something stupid, but a radio amateur friend > had success with this approach on a 40 MB disk (yes, that's MB, > not GB). I _opened_ the disk (with gloves, face mask and cap, > just to minimize the dust falling from my head into the disk) > and saw the central motor "rotate" clockwise and counterclockwise > for less than 1/4 rotation. I tried to "help" the disk spin up > as you can imagine, but it would not do so. >=20 > My question: >=20 > Had anyone had success getting such a disk work again? Is it > worth searching my "museum" for a replacement controller? Or > does it look more like a motor failure than a controller failure? >=20 > I can read the disk with my "forensics adapter" like this (tested > with the other 1.2 GB disk from the same system): >=20 > $ sudo mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da3s1 /mnt >=20 > That's the FreeBSD-related part in this question. But of course, > a disk not spinning up won't be recognized by the system. I'd like > to at least access the disk once to copy as much as I can. >=20 > Are there any ideas, options, chances, suggestions or experiments > other than "throw it out of the window"? :-) >=20 Considering the age of the disk, it's amazing it's still showing any signs of life at all. What you are experiencing sounds like 'sticktion' -- over time the lubricants on the drive bearings slowly become more sticky, and this tends to have the effect that the drive won't start up from cold. This is one place where percussive maintenance is justified. If you can tap the drive in just the right way as it is trying to spin up, you may be able to get it past the first few turns, after which it should be able to gather enough momentum to keep going. You want to hold the drive flat on the table, and tap the corner of the drive so that it rotates in the same plane that the platters do. You'll have to experiment to see what's most effective. Once you do get the platters moving, eventually the drive should come up to normal operating temperature and that which should soften the lubrication enough for it to run normally for a while, if you're lucky. The drive is definitely in its death throws, and your only hope is to concentrate on recovering any data that you can in whatever short time is left to it. If any. It may already be too far gone. Cheers, Matthew --fMsbjjpvccX2ArvverftNE7lW6LL0GTHr-- --dTH7BsxvEH9jLWUtLSBSHKuF5cAQp2XKL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJZvtOuXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATk74QAKnNCjG3p2JuMGH8GmA28FSd wo+FOBGsSS8RFKngLearmtSWZ7XJnodrqqktQiHArQMw8Dt/+AdIsI0J3xXbd4fx JkxNd0xzS6KyFR9+DbaXbauzKXx0VVjA3pwnSarwVGigayymrUBzQcXurQ/2L62V HUfntidWhqvIZbHGAr3KnXc1hdSVQq9idJpe86OUnQeRXE9zHezCDcdI85SBiPpE +heZLKlSetq5WSohdwjzGh7kw54KK+5YwjMonmf8d4rE5v7oK6i6dhEsmJkpcbsg ACZVXTJ1Vzl5bOu8t6v/coQ2G1wGw8E5V/npHfQCFrAu5zPNoRkyGgfhr2AUGfAD W31CU0700sayDbNfeCda9eUe/1tLvvtGVxNQB+pK73JOb1wOMhr+Zab6w139CQfb /XXjNGBt8I+7Wzpon5ufHBwiEthWou6gsToAJVV5YCsrGO8DTTwmX+vmFNH9Eltk qxVnS+vc/9cbWa1kAloM25wA7LluGlugpmAOsYW1SQkh0UZZXG9mxfSZ7NWVSRwX Jq/TcxpnD4TWkPo6eItvAhWkeFodF+xDtGdr+zo8hlp7foAcrCXPj5Xo9ZK1EUYy iYmbcR6nRNDZ8qYcs2Bx6ly0C5cUcr0xHjS/0kFr3zybzfyazwvEZ3KTeiReIHcb KCul4mJM4Q2H+QfJ6zS4 =btme -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dTH7BsxvEH9jLWUtLSBSHKuF5cAQp2XKL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 20:08:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9DBE01B9A for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfv@bway.net) Received: from smtp1.bway.net (smtp1.v6.bway.net [IPv6:2607:d300:1::27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DD616C23C for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfv@bway.net) Received: from gecko4 (host-216-220-115-171.dsl.bway.net [216.220.115.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m1316v@bway.net) by smtp1.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 076C895861; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:07:58 -0400 From: mfv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: case command Message-ID: <20170917160758.18b6000e@gecko4> In-Reply-To: <20170917193722.7d2ecbe3.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917193722.7d2ecbe3.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: mfv@bway.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:08:07 -0000 > On Sun, 2017-09-17 at 19:37 Polytropon wrote: > >On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:42:41 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to >> change all uppercase content to lower case. >>=20 >> Is there such a command line command? =20 > >Several ones. One is to use tr: > > ... | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' | ... > >Or with character classes: > > ... | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:] | ... > >You can also use awk for this task: > > ... | awk '{ print tolower($0) }' | ... > >You can use this within the awk portion of your script, too. > >Or shortened: > > ... | awk '{ print tolower }' | ... > >But keep in mind: Things like german Umlauts usually won't >be processed correctly. > >Those are a few possible solutions. There are more. ;-) > > > Hello, Yes, Indeed. Here is an alternative using gsed: gsed -e 's/(.*)/\L\1/' < input | ... To convert from lower case to upper case, change '\L' to '\U'. As gsed operates on one line at a time it will not be as fast as other solutions but has the merit of working on very large files when memory is an issue. It is also able to convert some Unicode, at least some of the Latin-1 Supplements and Latin Extended-A. If conversions are needed for a particular language not already covered by gsed then the y-command could be added. For example: y/=C3=82=C3=83=C3=84=C3=85=C3=81/=C3=A2=C3=A3=C3=A4=C3=A5=C3=A1/ This is an artificial example. Since gsed already handles this conversion the y-command would not be needed. I'm not well versed in Unicode except for a few Latin code pages and gsed works as expected for those pages. Cheers ... Marek From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 20:22:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4C0E02814 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic310-13.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic310-13.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAB4B6C938 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: GaKnymoVM1kHc1ydxGxhk2l4PCfS8Wt61r8_zls6iMsYU3I8rznI46K94SbtEYP uD_6f1qVX6_eg30D410N4mjsU6z2MRxN5TS4V1F8h_dEkqrsneS45Bh1GtrI_xngmPkLAj6fRvYf 4mQVJazh9V651vKqUdVIA_50L16Me0BVHjZ_wQJZ4fDhgr9rYoipOzhk29jZ_O642biyytt_zuEk fpztsrpApjV1e6kGb9UENo_X71qTPW6OX1BJDX6bT2ZZQAm2TcOOmxwoCSErg2igF2xlmvq8e85m Ot_7Aids7rwdP39CpR3Rv6eCepFX0Ckkhs3yw455uRX7tg87vdBIYfTT2X9L5w0dsOXORMayk_gQ 3mhpj96suj2BmmJqnn9Emu3KshdtctkZIRD.Zxjc6qT5uuV7K.kfr8OqYwmF8WgHWc3gFV62tlCj YVuU6Vah_DbKNJDGgpGAqETpGeWppGK2I3l9NXtbdfhut.TXKYHecY34UD9xfavnmG4TF3ar0aA7 nZWImuH3KHtJPSqXN5JprdEjNFUtILBD6vbbvu8E- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic310.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:22:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2017 18:02:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 260236.41673.bm@smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: GaKnymoVM1kHc1ydxGxhk2l4PCfS8Wt61r8_zls6iMsYU3I 8rznI46K94SbtEYPuD_6f1qVX6_eg30D410N4mjsU6z2MRxN5TS4V1F8h_dE kqrsneS45Bh1GtrI_xngmPkLAj6fRvYf4mQVJazh9V651vKqUdVIA_50L16M e0BVHjZ_wQJZ4fDhgr9rYoipOzhk29jZ_O642biyytt_zuEkfpztsrpApjV1 e6kGb9UENo_X71qTPW6OX1BJDX6bT2ZZQAm2TcOOmxwoCSErg2igF2xlmvq8 e85mOt_7Aids7rwdP39CpR3Rv6eCepFX0Ckkhs3yw455uRX7tg87vdBIYfTT 2X9L5w0dsOXORMayk_gQ3mhpj96suj2BmmJqnn9Emu3KshdtctkZIRD.Zxjc 6qT5uuV7K.kfr8OqYwmF8WgHWc3gFV62tlCjYVuU6Vah_DbKNJDGgpGAqETp GeWppGK2I3l9NXtbdfhut.TXKYHecY34UD9xfavnmG4TF3ar0aA7nZWImuH3 KHtJPSqXN5JprdEjNFUtILBD6vbbvu8E- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:02:44 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: case command Message-ID: <20170917200244.67a5ca30@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170917194020.8f6db248.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917155649.e869897ddcc97c3c9d04929c@sohara.org> <20170917194020.8f6db248.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:22:47 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:40:20 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >% grep "catfood" < food.txt > mister_kitty.txt Regarding https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=grep&sektion=&n=1 it should work without the "<" the same way it does on Linux [1]. As already pointed out, the inequality signs/angle brackets cause issues when sudo is required. [1] $ ls -hl bar.txt -r-------- 1 root root 4 Sep 17 19:49 bar.txt $ sudo grep "foo" < bar.txt > out-file.txt bash: bar.txt: Permission denied $ sudo grep "foo" bar.txt > out-file.txt $ cat out-file.txt foo $ sudo grep "foo" bar.txt | sudo tee out-file-2.txt foo $ ls -hl out-file*txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4 Sep 17 20:00 out-file-2.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4 Sep 17 19:58 out-file.txt . 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[74.141.88.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m133sm2103268itb.31.2017.09.17.13.29.07 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59BEDB12.2090600@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:29:06 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:29:08 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > This is more a hardware question than a FreeBSD question, but > as FreeBSD is involved, I think it's worth being asked here > due to the experienced, intelligent, creative and (in an > entirely positive sense) "unusual" participants on this list. > > I have a harddisk Quantum Fireball with ca. 1 GB capacity > (yes, that's GB, not TB). It's a (P)ATA / "IDE" disk with > a 40 pin connector for a flat cable, configured as master. > > The disk has been in use in a system that I built around 1995 > and which I occasionaly used over the years. The last system > activation was yesterday. Today, the disk just didn't spin up > again. > > After extracting the disk from the system and using my fine > "forensics adaptor" to power it, it made short cranking sounds > (ca. 1 per second) and short beeps from time to time, then went > silent. I can repeat this. > > Now I probably did something stupid, but a radio amateur friend > had success with this approach on a 40 MB disk (yes, that's MB, > not GB). I _opened_ the disk (with gloves, face mask and cap, > just to minimize the dust falling from my head into the disk) > and saw the central motor "rotate" clockwise and counterclockwise > for less than 1/4 rotation. I tried to "help" the disk spin up > as you can imagine, but it would not do so. > > My question: > > Had anyone had success getting such a disk work again? Is it > worth searching my "museum" for a replacement controller? Or > does it look more like a motor failure than a controller failure? > > I can read the disk with my "forensics adapter" like this (tested > with the other 1.2 GB disk from the same system): > > $ sudo mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da3s1 /mnt > > That's the FreeBSD-related part in this question. But of course, > a disk not spinning up won't be recognized by the system. I'd like > to at least access the disk once to copy as much as I can. > > Are there any ideas, options, chances, suggestions or experiments > other than "throw it out of the window"? :-) > > > The bearing the disk platters rotate on has lubricant that with usage and time has dried out somewhat. Taping the top side of the drive on a flat surface some times works. The best approach is to per-warn up the drive hardware before trying to power it on. Put a bear light bulb or shine a flood light from a close distance on to the metal covered side, IE; not the circuit board side, until it gets almost to hot to touch. Then power it on and and away you go almost every time this happens. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 20:32:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBEBE0334C for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8DC46CFB5 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:32:13 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E97C3CBF9; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:32:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HKWBhs002224; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:32:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:32:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mfv@bway.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Subject: Re: case command Message-Id: <20170917223211.bd017503.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170917160758.18b6000e@gecko4> References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917193722.7d2ecbe3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917160758.18b6000e@gecko4> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with DB9DE6A3788 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1342 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:32:22 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:07:58 -0400, mfv wrote: > > On Sun, 2017-09-17 at 19:37 Polytropon wrote: > > > >On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:42:41 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to > >> change all uppercase content to lower case. > >>=20 > >> Is there such a command line command? =20 > > > >Several ones. One is to use tr: > > > > ... | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' | ... > > > >Or with character classes: > > > > ... | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:] | ... > > > >You can also use awk for this task: > > > > ... | awk '{ print tolower($0) }' | ... > > > >You can use this within the awk portion of your script, too. > > > >Or shortened: > > > > ... | awk '{ print tolower }' | ... > > > >But keep in mind: Things like german Umlauts usually won't > >be processed correctly. > > > >Those are a few possible solutions. There are more. ;-) > > > > > > >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Yes, Indeed. Here is an alternative using gsed: >=20 > gsed -e 's/(.*)/\L\1/' < input | ... >=20 > To convert from lower case to upper case, change '\L' to '\U'. This only works with GNU sed (gsed), to be installed from ports. FreeBSD's native sed implementation does not support \L and \U, so you'd have to install GNU sed additionally. > As gsed operates on one line at a time it will not be as fast as other > solutions but has the merit of working on very large files when memory > is an issue. If awk is already part of the pipe chain, it's not a problem to use it for this task. > It is also able to convert some Unicode, at least some of the Latin-1 > Supplements and Latin Extended-A. If conversions are needed for a > particular language not already covered by gsed then the y-command > could be added. For example: >=20 > y/=C2=C3=C4=C5=C1/=E2=E3=E4=E5=E1/ For localized 1-byte codes (like german Umlauts), dd can be used. All methods mentioned so far seem to work correctly: % echo "M=C4RCHENB=DCGELR=D6STER" | dd conv=3Dlcase m=E4rchenb=FCgelr=F6ster 0+1 records in 0+1 records out 19 bytes transferred in 0.000030 secs (632474 bytes/sec) % echo "M=C4RCHENB=DCGELR=D6STER" | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' m=E4rchenb=FCgelr=F6ster % echo "M=C4RCHENB=DCGELR=D6STER" | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' m=E4rchenb=FCgelr=F6ster % echo "M=C4RCHENB=DCGELR=D6STER" | awk '{ print tolower }' m=E4rchenb=FCgelr=F6ster This is on a ISO-8859-1 localized system. Even though it is technically possible, I don't think those "edge cases" will appear in a domain name list. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 20:50:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A47E04642 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE07B6D7F2 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:50:43 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196713CBF9; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:50:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HKogXf002280; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:50:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:50:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ernie Luzar Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up Message-Id: <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 534C4763B27 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1548 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:50:47 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:57:27 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 17/09/2017 20:43, Polytropon wrote: > > This is more a hardware question than a FreeBSD question, but > > as FreeBSD is involved, I think it's worth being asked here > > due to the experienced, intelligent, creative and (in an > > entirely positive sense) "unusual" participants on this list. > > > > I have a harddisk Quantum Fireball with ca. 1 GB capacity > > (yes, that's GB, not TB). It's a (P)ATA / "IDE" disk with > > a 40 pin connector for a flat cable, configured as master. > > > > The disk has been in use in a system that I built around 1995 > > and which I occasionaly used over the years. The last system > > activation was yesterday. Today, the disk just didn't spin up > > again. > > > > After extracting the disk from the system and using my fine > > "forensics adaptor" to power it, it made short cranking sounds > > (ca. 1 per second) and short beeps from time to time, then went > > silent. I can repeat this. > > > > Now I probably did something stupid, but a radio amateur friend > > had success with this approach on a 40 MB disk (yes, that's MB, > > not GB). I _opened_ the disk (with gloves, face mask and cap, > > just to minimize the dust falling from my head into the disk) > > and saw the central motor "rotate" clockwise and counterclockwise > > for less than 1/4 rotation. I tried to "help" the disk spin up > > as you can imagine, but it would not do so. > > > > My question: > > > > Had anyone had success getting such a disk work again? Is it > > worth searching my "museum" for a replacement controller? Or > > does it look more like a motor failure than a controller failure? > > > > I can read the disk with my "forensics adapter" like this (tested > > with the other 1.2 GB disk from the same system): > > > > $ sudo mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da3s1 /mnt > > > > That's the FreeBSD-related part in this question. But of course, > > a disk not spinning up won't be recognized by the system. I'd like > > to at least access the disk once to copy as much as I can. > > > > Are there any ideas, options, chances, suggestions or experiments > > other than "throw it out of the window"? :-) > > > > Considering the age of the disk, it's amazing it's still showing any > signs of life at all. Not at all. I'm a living museum and have plenty of "too old" devices that work like a charm - until, of course, they suddenly stop working ("But it worked yesterday!"). :-) > What you are experiencing sounds like 'sticktion' -- over time the > lubricants on the drive bearings slowly become more sticky, and this > tends to have the effect that the drive won't start up from cold. That sounds quite right. I had this problem in other kinds of (primarily electromechanical) machinery where one of the two possible things happened: a) lubricant hardened (until total blocking or "glued state") b) adjacent parts "melting" (usually rubber and soft plastics) I can manually move the disk spindle, so the rotation is basically possible. The upper part of it is connected to the top of the enclosure, the motor itself, located at the bottom, cannot be seen. > This is one place where percussive maintenance is justified. If you can > tap the drive in just the right way as it is trying to spin up, you may > be able to get it past the first few turns, after which it should be > able to gather enough momentum to keep going. You want to hold the > drive flat on the table, and tap the corner of the drive so that it > rotates in the same plane that the platters do. You'll have to > experiment to see what's most effective. I will definitely try that, as I think I cannot make the problem much worse. :-) > Once you do get the platters moving, eventually the drive should come up > to normal operating temperature and that which should soften the > lubrication enough for it to run normally for a while, if you're lucky. Pre-heating (as suggested below) might be a way to help the drive. > The drive is definitely in its death throws, and your only hope is to > concentrate on recovering any data that you can in whatever short time > is left to it. If any. Plus dust. :-) I could also check if I have a "compatible" disk somewhere, but this probably won't help, as it's not the controller (I think) that fails to operate correctly. The only way here would be to put the platters into a replacement drive (on its axis), and properly adjusting them is something reserved to a real (!) clean room environment with far more expensive testing and adjustment equipment than I have. On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:29:06 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > The bearing the disk platters rotate on has lubricant that with usage > and time has dried out somewhat. Taping the top side of the drive on a > flat surface some times works. I've already tried the "knock it with a little hammer" approach, but this is really something that involves _lots_ of tries, as it depends on the exact timing, direction, and force to help the motor spin up. > The best approach is to per-warn up the drive hardware before trying to > power it on. Put a bear light bulb or shine a flood light from a close > distance on to the metal covered side, IE; not the circuit board side, > until it gets almost to hot to touch. Then power it on and and away you > go almost every time this happens. I will definitely add this as even more help. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 21:02:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10582E050B0 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic301-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic301-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F2926E074 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: OEtDlXgVM1kfrxJh1DeSK02yBzwLuGNxEy2jU61gmSX6EcyszpF7l99kHcSK_9U 3zxeQDjh0q9caGzgXYGb3ivLOpt8hFgP5qGSf8UUTyVgd6iQBQ4lwvLJStKjz.PHAcHXajHyx24m Zo6ZLiAKxFcqzqsKbxgk5aWpDYss49hOKguTvcepM_SpR0kSixUgld8I4pmiJG0mNISG3TRihvOv vDHeoXknfnYxSuNKFrj2xkOqlDfRY6Q_IO5TlPDg5.1bP__nUUgMTzkUcrbvRL.2zdJMdRxAzeGy h6fYeH_euYlrmfzzPUc5PtDmmTp9WWvy4t7B6m2lKYi74RMYGK135mlFMy_MHVNJHcypjIMMCP6r 79cO1KD8TeRYlCjsa.A4kzI2mj6Dor0Q11pBZScbbt23Ii.rT0mcxVrYYvub5MlXqAr.JfiqOiQG lh0fcj900sVcZQ_tXACdYpFV5DLyT9qnuRkkw65dOqQscaRs73.F3XES8m8zYKlqNpHhl43EtH2a oWfI60kcEB_EE2imwIh6UFknrVrx.SHijwQuRdEw- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:02:32 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp136.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2017 21:02:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 930693.70318.bm@smtp136.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: OEtDlXgVM1kfrxJh1DeSK02yBzwLuGNxEy2jU61gmSX6Ecy szpF7l99kHcSK_9U3zxeQDjh0q9caGzgXYGb3ivLOpt8hFgP5qGSf8UUTyVg d6iQBQ4lwvLJStKjz.PHAcHXajHyx24mZo6ZLiAKxFcqzqsKbxgk5aWpDYss 49hOKguTvcepM_SpR0kSixUgld8I4pmiJG0mNISG3TRihvOvvDHeoXknfnYx SuNKFrj2xkOqlDfRY6Q_IO5TlPDg5.1bP__nUUgMTzkUcrbvRL.2zdJMdRxA zeGyh6fYeH_euYlrmfzzPUc5PtDmmTp9WWvy4t7B6m2lKYi74RMYGK135mlF My_MHVNJHcypjIMMCP6r79cO1KD8TeRYlCjsa.A4kzI2mj6Dor0Q11pBZScb bt23Ii.rT0mcxVrYYvub5MlXqAr.JfiqOiQGlh0fcj900sVcZQ_tXACdYpFV 5DLyT9qnuRkkw65dOqQscaRs73.F3XES8m8zYKlqNpHhl43EtH2aoWfI60kc EB_EE2imwIh6UFknrVrx.SHijwQuRdEw- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:02:29 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up Message-ID: <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:02:36 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:50:42 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> The best approach is to per-warn up the drive hardware before trying >> to power it on. Put a bear light bulb or shine a flood light from a >> close distance on to the metal covered side, IE; not the circuit >> board side, until it gets almost to hot to touch. Then power it on >> and and away you go almost every time this happens. > >I will definitely add this as even more help. Usually it's worn out hardware from too many spin downs and spin ups. I doubt that aged lubricants are the cause. . From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 21:13:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7560E05B1C for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A36E6E707 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:13:46 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490FA3CBF9; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HLDiZ4002354; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:13:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:13:44 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up Message-Id: <20170917231344.54cf0fd4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with B3B846A357E X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1538 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:13:49 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:02:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:50:42 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >> The best approach is to per-warn up the drive hardware before trying > >> to power it on. Put a bear light bulb or shine a flood light from a > >> close distance on to the metal covered side, IE; not the circuit > >> board side, until it gets almost to hot to touch. Then power it on > >> and and away you go almost every time this happens. > > > >I will definitely add this as even more help. > > Usually it's worn out hardware from too many spin downs and spin ups. I > doubt that aged lubricants are the cause. Further impressions: I tried with the "little hammer", but after the 1/4th rotation cycles, the disk loght on the controller board starts flashing. As I read about deconnecting the "flat wires in plastics" (flex) to the head and powerin the disk on with heads disconnected, the disk did the same. So I tought I'd examine how the spindle motor is powered up. I found a connector with 4 pins on the rear side of the controller, a connector which I don't exactly know the correct term for: It's a soft rubber block with kinds of wires on it, held in place with mechanical pressure from the surrounding screws. Okay, I put the controller back, softly attached with one screw only, and thought I'd power it on. AND BEHOLD THE WONDER OF STRANGENESS - the disk started spinning! A "Vrooooommmmm!" sound could be heared. I don't know why I powered it off at that time - probably because the controller wasn't actually fixed, and I didn't want to connect the "forensics adapter" (40-pin side) to a shaky circuit board. After fixating the controller again, the disk started its stupid "I won't spin up, I just turn around a few times, then start flashing a green light" dance. So my assumption is: Maybe the power connector for the spindle motor is "a little bit" flaky? It's probably worth investigating that particular connection closer, and play with the screws... that's almost engineering! Turn screws, turn nuts - Schrauben drehn, Muddern drehn. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Byrne" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:18:34 -0000 On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 2:55 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > On Sat, September 16, 2017 23:02, Adam Vande More wrote: > > >> > > > > The bug you linked to has nothing to do with the issue of trying to > > provision a DC on a non-jailed FreeBSD installation. > > The issue the bug addresses may not, but the bug itself certainly does. > What? It doesn't seem like you have a good enough understanding to make a claim like that. It is quite clear that bug is relavant only to jailed instances of samba, and VFS related perms. Your current was already explained to you once, and you've been reminded of it. > I had exactly the same provisioning problem with 4.5 and 4.4. The > last version of Samba that provisioned successfully for me on > FreeBSD-11 was 4.3. > Works great here: root@samba:~ # pkg info | grep samba samba45-4.5.12 Free SMB/CIFS and AD/DC server and client for Unix root@samba:~ # samba-tool domain provision --use-rfc2307 --interactive Realm: foo.com Domain [foo]: Server Role (dc, member, standalone) [dc]: DNS backend (SAMBA_INTERNAL, BIND9_FLATFILE, BIND9_DLZ, NONE) [SAMBA_INTERNAL]: DNS forwarder IP address (write 'none' to disable forwarding) [8.8.8.8]: none Administrator password: Retype password: Looking up IPv4 addresses Looking up IPv6 addresses No IPv6 address will be assigned Setting up secrets.ldb Setting up the registry Setting up the privileges database Setting up idmap db Setting up SAM db Setting up sam.ldb partitions and settings Setting up sam.ldb rootDSE Pre-loading the Samba 4 and AD schema Adding DomainDN: DC=foo,DC=com Adding configuration container Setting up sam.ldb schema Setting up sam.ldb configuration data Setting up display specifiers Modifying display specifiers Adding users container Modifying users container Adding computers container Modifying computers container Setting up sam.ldb data Setting up well known security principals Setting up sam.ldb users and groups Setting up self join Adding DNS accounts Creating CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System,DC=foo,DC=com Creating DomainDnsZones and ForestDnsZones partitions Populating DomainDnsZones and ForestDnsZones partitions Setting up sam.ldb rootDSE marking as synchronized Fixing provision GUIDs A Kerberos configuration suitable for Samba 4 has been generated at /var/db/samba4/private/krb5.conf Setting up fake yp server settings Once the above files are installed, your Samba4 server will be ready to use Server Role: active directory domain controller Hostname: samba NetBIOS Domain: FOO DNS Domain: foo.com DOMAIN SID: S-1-5-21-1080825900-187052096-556735549 -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 21:27:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6DDE066E3 for ; 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x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:27:38 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:13:44 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >Schrauben drehn, Muddern drehn. :-) For me brute force at room temperature worked best for drives that didn't spin up. Instead of heating, using coolant spray might temporarily fix electronically issues. . From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 22:15:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3DBE090AD for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mail.ssr.com (mail.ssr.com [199.4.235.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8F8670449 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: (qmail 58068 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2017 18:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irelay.ssr.com) (sdb@74.73.182.128) by 199.4.235.6 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2017 18:15:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10043 invoked by uid 103); 17 Sep 2017 18:15:06 -0000 Date: 17 Sep 2017 18:15:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20170917181506.10042.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Adam Vande More on Sat, 16 Sep 2017 18:51:10 -0500) Subject: Re: Curious pkg upgrade behavior References: <20170916121755.1297.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> <20170916152354.2192.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:15:16 -0000 I did a snapshot before upgrading, so I could roll it back. I am somehow reluctant... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 22:20:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119CEE095B3 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mail.ssr.com (mail.ssr.com [199.4.235.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D337B706F4 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: (qmail 58100 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2017 18:20:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irelay.ssr.com) (sdb@74.73.182.128) by 199.4.235.6 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2017 18:20:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10068 invoked by uid 103); 17 Sep 2017 18:20:07 -0000 Date: 17 Sep 2017 18:20:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20170917182007.10067.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20170917093549.6edaf66e@curlew> (message from Mike Clarke on Sun, 17 Sep 2017 09:35:49 +0100) Subject: Re: Curious pkg upgrade behavior References: <20170916121755.1297.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> <20170916152354.2192.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> <20170917093549.6edaf66e@curlew> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:20:10 -0000 Mike Clar writes: > On 16 Sep 2017 15:23:54 -0000 > Scott Ballantyne wrote: > > > I was running samba43 prior to this. The second run of pkg uninstaled > > Samba 43-4.3.11 and installed samba44-4.4.15. It also upgraded gvfs. > > It would have been because of the upgrade of gvfs, it depends on > samba44-4.4.15 > But this only punts the odd behavior to gvfs. Why not on the first run of pkg upgrade? And why did smbd crash after the first run? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 22:39:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF79E0A683 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F34E470E80 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id v142so18047921wmv.5 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MjsiOiS/RaBPNkUC2efaGRNipNZo1lYCFAOBmvfsmYw=; b=q71XwOVgTmxbUEXKtP4ds6wRwfD3l3zg9AOXW7LeFegWzVuibolHEDduCJcnKGbWEv nJIgBgfoFPDaEj9cbR5m11NbSEicutvqudYAIhQ/OvZU6o4cJ7qOX6HrqhwptUe8isNS RdEpqiT8zFOKrfp7xxRTRLCt5g00DnPg+g4Qjv3crTX8oQfA3DO3+gaybGseRhN2yjo+ 8n2p6bRlRlmWj5wKqhLbH7ldZ2zJXOJdChY0BCaodxQlDb7K4lC8IO1luVJKnDsxZpZC XqxIhJt64U7g7LgrqwrzHsbz77J2zjPNQzTa28U6DBN4m7w8Db70uWzR51q+tbjC6Btz BgwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MjsiOiS/RaBPNkUC2efaGRNipNZo1lYCFAOBmvfsmYw=; b=CC282zuyminjPMIFBqz0QqZf6xPKAZcpxdOlDUuO3WS/WOf/+Pe5nxhp8wJBnSoe8B ruryhpvigLKUJ7dAnnGjuwgCWYTHt7R54Stdm0LyR+stoUtv0+34QyQEeLa6g5BV6x8d Db3l/WhNc57sMcWphyFpFYU1jML4ahULmmz+JMeSjQp2GKbSyAWn1T988fYoPL8M0Wu+ 9sgPHMJgPN5Bit7tr1SEYMkHmGIEkh3jRBLczHomRvzXeuV0X3FkxrhpZQJfZLFtoSjz Zzkd8n1Lerh8omTQG9DnEjjnS8Ory9n7qzdim0yHEX13LbXjlmpaCB4TX/Nx/RIKtkm9 jBlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgtn14H/xqiKKM0KNoIs5R+/lynm764ESZF/Qd9wmn2d/QoBYYZ 1N2qxXpZjd0TLfpE5BtSEnq0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QALyomfOdk02XlQYJTwnyKKut0PtASbKRLjVSiZXPTMblvRR2FQeEQbLHRmXLYdGsMw/Iv28Q== X-Received: by 10.28.71.88 with SMTP id u85mr6992585wma.22.1505687961858; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osk.homenet ([2001:470:196e:17:f2de:f1ff:fed1:783c]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f19sm6920494wrf.85.2017.09.17.15.39.20 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:39:21 -0700 (PDT) To: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions From: Shamim Shahriar Subject: Recovering data from a broken HDD Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:39:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:39:25 -0000 Good evening all, hope everyone is well. a little background: I have a couple of portable HDD. One of them was dropped a few weeks back, and then the computer stopped recognising it and asked it to be formatted. Once formatted, it appeared to start working again -- even though all previous data had been lost, and no, I am not trusting that device to hold any important data. Last week, another HDD slipped through the hands (literally). This one too is showing the same/similar symptoms as the previous one. I believe that the data is still there, but somehow the alignment has shifted and hence the HDD controller is unable to provide the data. I am wondering, can anyone please suggest a data recovery programme that I can try on the drive? The HDD being not in the western/relatively-more-techy region cannot be sent to a data recovery company (and I have been told they cost you a fortune), but have access to m$ or Mac or Linux or BSD systems. So if anyone could please suggest something to try on (Yes, I had been on google, and found a huge amount of tools -- but I would much rather try out something that someone has already tried and can give some insight on). Thanks and regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 22:51:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB823E0B215 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x229.google.com (mail-it0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8280E714AF for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 6so6435139itl.1 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:51:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DoFAVUqYrDSjfYWXhrl6mYC24PmIMRTw/aIlL4EqEX0=; b=Vw0hh3wxj8YGlwlRWZ8BUmL94UnFbuNv+/IH5uziVgScYnWeMi4AVYBgjyD48548BA FkBqO4EBfk/nOF/h6D8kcJqqjGo0vVsddrg763pGPt1ME2zlQ3qOI/g4KeZH9GbFhPil qH5eCA78jq/xyfLcy8VRHYGRlxkdCpsz6TcejMMaE8J+MuJ0AJF41y9HJ5/tiSo9STnQ VefAhOxjVuXKtTiTp7u2VRtL0E59Cir9NhL+2q01gqyEREbijzvgERzJwGzhmM0dee7v Uq/YqLsDTp4OU0sMWHvATi4CV+0j73Bh+WiKjkY2eBPmR4zM4xsshzRQE9g14CfwkBfH f4Pg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DoFAVUqYrDSjfYWXhrl6mYC24PmIMRTw/aIlL4EqEX0=; b=CSZBG+9Ay59/BkjDlXxClZhbFPWxbfCBR94mXiKDEFXKmuNQHpg6JzCZNTh6gt/fH0 Xslgh7Tke8vNOCUE4vM51E0D0MJJ6C0GVZjOxpOheZyjLpIuoKEtwWxPoD7l5ivCIUtv 1cc2oskJISprWQbwAt7zgzi4FWAVQ3tNI7JWxqJLykwnJ/Ybfi9Qj0/xRwyR5MDsna1C itxePo/XSyl3KJX3Yi4wLtyU+dugGeZTUB3rUVU6qTp2ya8AX18dhPTCRt//SnZJM+xf w6DeNhH7p5tTKRwyHS0iD9Ojpof1PKoESxcJYpUAbBiHXrTiHNBGWKfA+z/4/cx12aLQ nWgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgjHfSQl2uBsczEfNacRzIz+Pbitp1dTIYeyj48jU19LsWeoOtU a5WDWlYQHPkCw4YLZitan2N0g23TQ9mqRLsbO+s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QB9dQMtUYhKH3JMkzByXTu3nCSEgGDhVgHCttFaBVDpOEuzPI85+xyhFfuDgUXYfcWrRJjcLCp4IafkPXWmkX8= X-Received: by 10.36.101.213 with SMTP id u204mr9169626itb.151.1505688662916; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:51:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.145.141 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:51:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Vande More Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:51:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recovering data from a broken HDD To: Shamim Shahriar Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:51:03 -0000 On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Shamim Shahriar wrote: > Good evening all, hope everyone is well. > > a little background: > I have a couple of portable HDD. One of them was dropped a few weeks back, > and then the computer stopped recognising it and asked it to be formatted. > Once formatted, it appeared to start working again -- even though all > previous data had been lost, and no, I am not trusting that device to hold > any important data. > > Last week, another HDD slipped through the hands (literally). This one too > is showing the same/similar symptoms as the previous one. I believe that > the data is still there, but somehow the alignment has shifted and hence > the HDD controller is unable to provide the data. I am wondering, can > anyone please suggest a data recovery programme that I can try on the > drive? The HDD being not in the western/relatively-more-techy region cannot > be sent to a data recovery company (and I have been told they cost you a > fortune), but have access to m$ or Mac or Linux or BSD systems. So if > anyone could please suggest something to try on (Yes, I had been on google, > and found a huge amount of tools -- but I would much rather try out > something that someone has already tried and can give some insight on). > recoverdisk(1) -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 22:57:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7E0E0B933 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x22e.google.com (mail-wr0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1C7C7180B for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id l39so4918718wrl.12 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:57:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=xKE+b+Q7SNyb0ylyATEzmOHyKYUzkmzme2ynGMjFy9Q=; b=OtmEWqz/CqNEcvX94i77jScjvdbFFYPZwQBTVqsqOH3DN+ZbNwFriGOkey2OXsjO+H 9rhtipAMHFiReGJI6ESTRcWOqRJUVGJ0H5xydjxC0NU8MVwWxG/6BY/Hjaa6731EnT9Z jAW2BP4DmpLgZVydGnLALcTuHNEkd3wWm/zmQw4Pzb+sJFag7a/GnQrLBL6tsYfEiRDg pGZ0tJzB8VQRBhTvAejcx9hQ8Ac78qlMVTWPyedBrJV+/Fq4Z2w9drxkxMTjT0Nlbp/S XC0k/YGlu27qkYd6tWU+Nd/pDgzRou4oz176gDA4rEZlI2HVKa6XBlyEqesFCRP81tzr Cv+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=xKE+b+Q7SNyb0ylyATEzmOHyKYUzkmzme2ynGMjFy9Q=; b=GF80iRxKEEtmV/TEwFnmy9CA1THIGIMUHB++3T2qEuniOitb7wSGEWQPEdw8uzapRr f7CTLgCn7bUbpj+/QE5wGiUBmudyhv9p5irJKktvjDJat6Z+pwD5Ru1epjHFLA0nscHO dlP8Hy+9Nn3CIK3hnpkxx0B/YyJejHb8Z4VvCUjtxaYAyJAkTJIqS6UyRLCN99zxXmc1 GJ8Gkpq6hisOFPf3c3N5ipH6Vvnc09tGxexeJG9F1s6L6dTi0bX7Kux25M1X817QhA8X MVYIE4rktUpClnjzLQth3jt5ARf/CHD126NeYD4SqAYWDCvkNXVaEao3opnW6TXm10zr effw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgzbtLx8CcxbkgQDVxjfBCVCQaIPI3aXC6/cZd+L0VB+hTIL5RK jSX/KsJI1mCXJkLH X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb5g1TGHT89NddVqWcCAIhf0Vn42YPuJDH8NjBvTrkgUytXVumNs4u6Zp1EzELzYuq1WFk8nyw== X-Received: by 10.223.131.193 with SMTP id 59mr26687086wre.157.1505689063835; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osk.homenet ([2001:470:196e:17:f2de:f1ff:fed1:783c]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f19sm6944041wrf.85.2017.09.17.15.57.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Recovering data from a broken HDD To: Adam Vande More References: Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions From: Shamim Shahriar Message-ID: <8ac1423e-d996-bcdb-3068-ebe8ba7718c4@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:57:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:57:46 -0000 On 17/09/2017 23:51, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Shamim Shahriar > > wrote: > > Good evening all, hope everyone is well. > > a little background: > I have a couple of portable HDD. One of them was dropped a few > weeks back, and then the computer stopped recognising it and asked > it to be formatted. Once formatted, it appeared to start working > again -- even though all previous data had been lost, and no, I am > not trusting that device to hold any important data. > > Last week, another HDD slipped through the hands (literally). This > one too is showing the same/similar symptoms as the previous one. > I believe that the data is still there, but somehow the alignment > has shifted and hence the HDD controller is unable to provide the > data. I am wondering, can anyone please suggest a data recovery > programme that I can try on the drive? The HDD being not in the > western/relatively-more-techy region cannot be sent to a data > recovery company (and I have been told they cost you a fortune), > but have access to m$ or Mac or Linux or BSD systems. So if anyone > could please suggest something to try on (Yes, I had been on > google, and found a huge amount of tools -- but I would much > rather try out something that someone has already tried and can > give some insight on). > > > recoverdisk(1) > > -- > Adam thanks Adam, that looks really interesting. I will try that as soon as I get a large enough drive to put the data on (once the shops open). In the meanwhile, if anyone has any other suggestion, please do feel free to chime in. Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 23:09:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEECE0C480 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12471F1F for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 409FACB8CF7; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:09:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 76.193.16.42 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:09:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <58939.76.193.16.42.1505689766.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:09:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Ralf Mardorf" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:09:33 -0000 On Sun, September 17, 2017 4:02 pm, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:50:42 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >>> The best approach is to per-warn up the drive hardware before trying >>> to power it on. Put a bear light bulb or shine a flood light from a >>> close distance on to the metal covered side, IE; not the circuit >>> board side, until it gets almost to hot to touch. Then power it on >>> and and away you go almost every time this happens. >> >>I will definitely add this as even more help. > > Usually it's worn out hardware from too many spin downs and spin ups. I > doubt that aged lubricants are the cause. I agree. Ages back harddrive manufacturers started using "lubricant free" bearings. Often lubricant is a composite part of exterior of the bearing. In precision equipment even if liquid lubricant is used it is such that does not change viscosity. If is is capable of gradually evaporating, it is evaporating as a whole, without leaving residue, and without changing its properties when partially evaporated. E.g. old mechanical watch makers used "bone oil". When drive spins, as the center of mass is slightly off the axis, shaft presses in all directions. Uneven wear even with very uniform bushing material, is promoted if hard drive is positioned vertically (i.e. axis is horizontal). That is why I did my best to avoid hardware with hard drives positioned vertically. Wort mode of wear is when bushing becomes elliptical. You can hear rattling noise (excessive vibration) sometimes when that drive spins. As minimum energy of spinning body is when its center of mass is on axis of rotation, there is chance that platters will maintain nice rotation once they are brought into that state. That is why knocking on one side (in direction ortogonal, or slightly diagonal sometimes helps to spin it up). Another likely thing is small particle caught where there is narrow gap between stator electric magnets and magnetic surface of rotor. Often these dirt particles are ferromagnetic, so the will never leave that area on their own. As you, Mr. Polytropon, have disassembled the drive already, hence have nothing to loose, try to clean that if you manage to access that area. Good luck! Valeri > > . > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 23:16:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C13EE0CA4F for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x22e.google.com (mail-wr0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC11A722E2 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id u96so4928945wrb.6 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:16:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eeHU9zd+3pVyLrIs58aKfqKv5gC0RZVcrx6hRStc+kU=; b=KmKi6gIePE/ISWJryGn9kZIpb6hleFwlD/FqZV9g7XsJOy9NX+nGXnP2k0RA7aM7e0 +cN5FB0uj9ZhAo1ZNPCohLCR3ZpuLgUwoFkVjvNCdmUfF1hjwf0GzeWD4Ag6Wosv2SPX 8Y5VHDmiUa6GCVDuuoBi3kzbayMeeo0jd79ryqXuLm4wkvz7GkycqDpj+ptrXnitflpm Tl5thbkUt7BXIFST/WrmXdwL/p162O3eVMr1ub6fZ6329KhqQe6jAajE6siU4qwsB+m/ pio/8jlPtxpYsVDKqorf+ZqP13ekskVbEQBo3fcwO1LvvY1ayNELw0jZ0U3NSG83kNJd yUIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eeHU9zd+3pVyLrIs58aKfqKv5gC0RZVcrx6hRStc+kU=; b=LLh6Ar1lpMYQnD8hhJAFWaPSrTji2CoC3B4SoFpuzV+Gp/c4tYk1RxfTFn6s1qohHY oU3Alnxbl7cIcmXuNmXFsED5uM+sPfoIGQkgB33yvrVzoaykVuDZq3Li6YTHVpoCF0B0 D9dzHzBQRciybQXmto6Lr9TlCuhk2Tj1gPnL7ecUaVCpg5gsE2B2bt1YQEvyVAPESezH M2HL1qpiQSA3h/Tfff1VhDMeiRKkzWcz1vPXzKoPO1jFelIQAaG4vqsexlJLtc6EV/yX FZfMFYRslZ/vkI1TXn4KQDH19Di8nrOu0LGzyr05qdexyjFXhDR+M9XCAQLkqLDKFP6y FdBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhOEV2TebYjcOY6aXE0tKSNoqgPd4YSdDB2pDdG2QmS6K0VEGOt 1x54Od4Dhf+paFT0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBvWXGVpLCzf1d52djFyw7JI/j2Qu5BWGv4nVJxK3K16iaLM2uBDPJGy75GSjX/we6Xbf2ImA== X-Received: by 10.223.186.142 with SMTP id p14mr18433865wrg.169.1505690187251; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osk.homenet ([2001:470:196e:17:f2de:f1ff:fed1:783c]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f43sm6288561wra.79.2017.09.17.16.16.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Recovering data from a broken HDD To: Marius Schamschula References: <8ac1423e-d996-bcdb-3068-ebe8ba7718c4@gmail.com> <2E6600A4-3FF4-491B-A7FB-C9D4E065F786@schamschula.com> Cc: Adam Vande More , Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions From: Shamim Shahriar Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 00:16:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2E6600A4-3FF4-491B-A7FB-C9D4E065F786@schamschula.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:16:29 -0000 On 18/09/2017 00:11, Marius Schamschula wrote: > Shamim, > > I’ve used ddrescue for this in the past. There is a FreeBSD port > available (also available from MacPorts or Homebrew under macOS). > > Thanks Marius, I will take a look into that one as well. Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 23:17:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A86E0CC5F for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A827723EF for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 01:17:49 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA5CD3CBF9; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 01:17:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HNHlwJ003059; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 01:17:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 01:17:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Shamim Shahriar Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Recovering data from a broken HDD Message-Id: <20170918011747.519b488a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 309F8763B27 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1419 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:17:52 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:39:20 +0100, Shamim Shahriar wrote: > Good evening all, hope everyone is well. > > a little background: > I have a couple of portable HDD. One of them was dropped a few weeks > back, and then the computer stopped recognising it and asked it to be > formatted. Probably "Windows" asked for this - sometimes suggests to "repair" a disk, often with the result of causing much more damage. :-) > Once formatted, it appeared to start working again -- even > though all previous data had been lost, and no, I am not trusting that > device to hold any important data. Just because the file system on the disk has been initialized, it does not neccessarily imply that the actual data has been lost (read: overwritten or zeroed). Forensic tools often can still get most of the data of a formatted disk. > Last week, another HDD slipped through the hands (literally). This one > too is showing the same/similar symptoms as the previous one. I believe > that the data is still there, but somehow the alignment has shifted and > hence the HDD controller is unable to provide the data. I am wondering, > can anyone please suggest a data recovery programme that I can try on > the drive? The HDD being not in the western/relatively-more-techy region > cannot be sent to a data recovery company (and I have been told they > cost you a fortune), but have access to m$ or Mac or Linux or BSD > systems. So if anyone could please suggest something to try on (Yes, I > had been on google, and found a huge amount of tools -- but I would much > rather try out something that someone has already tried and can give > some insight on). I suggest you first create an 1:1 image from the disk using dd, or in case of errors, dd_rescue. Then continue working with the image only. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES write to the disk, as this will usually make things more complicated. There are several tools for data recovery. Which tool to use depends on several factors, such as what has actually happened to the disk's content, and what you want to rescue from it (and how). Those factors also include the kind of file system on the disk (FAT, UFS, HPFS, ...) and the kind of slicing and partitioning (none, MBR, GPT), as well as the intended target (reconstruct file system, just get data, get data with file names and directory hierarchy, ...). There is no "one size fits all" kind of egg-laying woolmilksow tool. ;-) In case there is just a partition misalignment, consider using the "recoverdisk" tool, provided natively by FreeBSD. Allow me to repeat my "famous list of recovery tools" that I post on this mailing list from time to time. System: dd fsck_ffs clri fsdb fetch -rR recoverdisk <- as suggested Ports: ddrescue dd_rescue ffs2recov magicrescue testdisk The Sleuth Kit: fls dls ils autopsy scan_ffs recoverjpeg foremost photorec fatback Proprietary (free test version for diagnostics): SysDev Laboratories LLC "UFS Explorer" Most tools require you to know what you're doing, so learning how to use those tools appears to be mandatory. As I said, work with (a copy of) the copy of the disk if possible, so in worst case you can start from the beginning without feeling guilty that you did something wrong. ;-) Good luck! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 03:46:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DA8E1B88C for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 03:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B4B7D53B for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 03:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp118-210-151-17.bras1.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.151.17]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2017 13:10:56 +0930 Subject: Re: case command To: Polytropon , mfv@bway.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917193722.7d2ecbe3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917160758.18b6000e@gecko4> <20170917223211.bd017503.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <9b5867e7-4b41-5a7e-fb79-316ccb474e7b@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:10:54 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170917223211.bd017503.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 03:46:08 -0000 On 18/09/2017 06:02, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:07:58 -0400, mfv wrote: >>> On Sun, 2017-09-17 at 19:37 Polytropon wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:42:41 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>>> Looking for a system command that a I can pip a file through to >>>> change all uppercase content to lower case. >>>> >>>> Is there such a command line command? >>> >>> Several ones. One is to use tr: >>> >>> ... | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' | ... >>> >>> Or with character classes: >>> >>> ... | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:] | ... >>> >>> You can also use awk for this task: >>> >>> ... | awk '{ print tolower($0) }' | ... >>> >>> You can use this within the awk portion of your script, too. >>> >>> Or shortened: >>> >>> ... | awk '{ print tolower }' | ... >>> >>> But keep in mind: Things like german Umlauts usually won't >>> be processed correctly. >>> >>> Those are a few possible solutions. There are more. ;-) >>> >> Hello, >> >> Yes, Indeed. Here is an alternative using gsed: >> >> gsed -e 's/(.*)/\L\1/' < input | ... >> >> To convert from lower case to upper case, change '\L' to '\U'. > > This only works with GNU sed (gsed), to be installed from ports. > FreeBSD's native sed implementation does not support \L and \U, > so you'd have to install GNU sed additionally. Well as we're listing alternate ways - cat upper.txt | perl -ne 'print lc' and to reverse it - perl -ne 'print uc' lower.txt ;) -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Seding Data Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 04:09:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0829E1CC65 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C54E7DE47 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp118-210-151-17.bras1.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.151.17]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2017 13:38:38 +0930 Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up To: Polytropon , Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> <20170917231344.54cf0fd4.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:38:36 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170917231344.54cf0fd4.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:09:07 -0000 On 18/09/2017 06:43, Polytropon wrote: > Further impressions: > > I tried with the "little hammer", but after the 1/4th rotation > cycles, the disk loght on the controller board starts flashing. > > As I read about deconnecting the "flat wires in plastics" (flex) > to the head and powerin the disk on with heads disconnected, > the disk did the same. So I tought I'd examine how the spindle > motor is powered up. I found a connector with 4 pins on the > rear side of the controller, a connector which I don't exactly > know the correct term for: It's a soft rubber block with kinds > of wires on it, held in place with mechanical pressure from the > surrounding screws. Okay, I put the controller back, softly > attached with one screw only, and thought I'd power it on. > > AND BEHOLD THE WONDER OF STRANGENESS - the disk started spinning! > A "Vrooooommmmm!" sound could be heard. How about a flaky voltage regulator that doesn't provide enough power to spin up the disk. Without the controller draining it's share there was enough power to spin up. Have you tried starting it without the ribbon again? Can you attach separate power lines? Jump start it with a pair of test leads? > I don't know why I powered it off at that time - probably because > the controller wasn't actually fixed, and I didn't want to > connect the "forensics adapter" (40-pin side) to a shaky > circuit board. After fixating the controller again, the disk > started its stupid "I won't spin up, I just turn around a few > times, then start flashing a green light" dance. Then there is broken solder joints, screws distort the board a little to disconnect them... -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Saving Devices Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 07:20:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793CEE2531F for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic302-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic302-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15613829C0 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: 2rtq308VM1nWil_vdvd33YUCGZrS9ji6PGWdnB7aIq_vH3V2F7qPF8x2as8bd5F qlu6irY0eFedqAhnSQrpNUCZRCIh8cdVuB3UkS8QY6Wx.Ck3c6QaJ9QNevy8oYY0ZsJYIFPkT79Y GIofd5muDeDNbGQ2Pg8Zm2exxsipLSess3eeeKGZx1qUnplj4AeCaH3.s4gBgFYYxK7kUEsEVNmb ESUPFrrjL8yPl.JTx1EJBFUcRw5EZR8pelgshBwFzf7bDCDp2hproix3zZjg1m.WXQfUw1DVaPuf 6TcpmMdzAJsSS82HXOs27C.y7L50RzRDMjSfOYwrK__WSqxh4g0T8quQud4uYzYhZR7Hpkdy7u9g Dr7i13RqoPX6a_n_phvXkBgYlgsCPaPv1CivoIxduaxT80I4D6Ydws_zKXWaZEhnkFOz3C2oGzKc Zr5rbZk1YFIH3jXGzS67ipzpLnZzr83DlNgxiDc94bTZiptT5QpFHA8Wb96vc4UUgwu1518IsXuD uj_Dk1_0YStFsPZjP9F4lwlLjoeAQ19SxH4bLS_VU Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:20:39 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2017 07:20:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 731303.93414.bm@smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 2rtq308VM1nWil_vdvd33YUCGZrS9ji6PGWdnB7aIq_vH3V 2F7qPF8x2as8bd5Fqlu6irY0eFedqAhnSQrpNUCZRCIh8cdVuB3UkS8QY6Wx .Ck3c6QaJ9QNevy8oYY0ZsJYIFPkT79YGIofd5muDeDNbGQ2Pg8Zm2exxsip LSess3eeeKGZx1qUnplj4AeCaH3.s4gBgFYYxK7kUEsEVNmbESUPFrrjL8yP l.JTx1EJBFUcRw5EZR8pelgshBwFzf7bDCDp2hproix3zZjg1m.WXQfUw1DV aPuf6TcpmMdzAJsSS82HXOs27C.y7L50RzRDMjSfOYwrK__WSqxh4g0T8quQ ud4uYzYhZR7Hpkdy7u9gDr7i13RqoPX6a_n_phvXkBgYlgsCPaPv1CivoIxd uaxT80I4D6Ydws_zKXWaZEhnkFOz3C2oGzKcZr5rbZk1YFIH3jXGzS67ipzp LnZzr83DlNgxiDc94bTZiptT5QpFHA8Wb96vc4UUgwu1518IsXuDuj_Dk1_0 YStFsPZjP9F4lwlLjoeAQ19SxH4bLS_VU X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:20:34 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up Message-ID: <20170918092034.430ea08b@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> <20170917231344.54cf0fd4.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-ubuntu-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:20:49 -0000 On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:38:36 +0930, Shane Ambler wrote: >How about a flaky voltage regulator that doesn't provide enough power >to spin up the disk. The described symptoms indicate a hardware issue, it doesn't matter if it should be aged/dirty lubricant, magnetic particles at the wrong places or worn out movable parts. >screws distort the board a little to disconnect them I agree, opening and closing the drive might have add additional issues. Regards, Ralf . From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 07:48:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD17E262DE for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E97808380D for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:11639] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id F2/92-08177-E3A7FB95; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:48:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:48:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install " Epson L 380 Printer " and " Hp Deskjet 1515 in Free BSD? References: X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.6:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:48:21 -0000 from Manish Jain: > On 09/17/17 22:41, manash pal wrote: > > kindly let me know the steps regarding installing of these two printers > > in my system ... I googled the matter , but did not find any suitable > > demonstration ....... > I don't know about Epson for sure, but HP should be easy. > Install cups and cups-pdf : pkg install cups cups-pdf > Build hplip from ports : > cd /usr/ports/print/hplip > #if you don't have /usr/ports, run : portsnap fetch extract > make config # choose to build with qt4, not qt5 > #hplip-qt5 currently omits the sip module - big problem > make install clean > You should be able to run Epson under cups and HP via hplip. > The CUPS web interface is : http://localhost:631/admin > Before you try accessing CUPS interface, put this in /etc/rc.conf and > reboot : > cupsd_enable=YES > To set up HP printer, run hp-setup (as normal user) > If your printer is visible to root and not visible to the normal user, > you likely have a permissions problem. Run usbconfig as root to find out > the ugen ID of the HP printer (I presume this is a USB printer). Let's > say it is ugen2.3 > Put the following in /etc/devfs.conf : > perm usb/2.3.0 0664 > Then run : /etc/rc.d/devfs restart I recently built up a system (FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE amd64) using synth, included hplip, went with qt5, have not tested this yet. Previous experience with qt4 was not favorable; printing worked most of the time with a PPD from foo2zjs (both NetBSD and FreeBSD). I have never been successful with USB, only Ethernet (no wireless connection). Printer is HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP. It seems to me the USB address would vary because of plugging and unplugging USB devices, and turning off the printer when not in use. Then I suppose you would have to rerun perm usb/whatever 0664 and /etc/rc.d/devfs restart every time? Keeping a printer on all the time, especially a laser printer, is wasteful of electricity. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 08:02:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E74CE26D06 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp206.alice.it (smtp206.alice.it [82.57.200.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C521D84070 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (79.25.179.2) by smtp206.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 59A66B6F02FF35DD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:02:09 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v8I829Rk043006 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:02:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Future of SAMBA on FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <411eb82456c15c41763909673a63208b.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <485a5756-ca36-bba6-62c8-c76022b05452@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:02:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:02:21 -0000 On 09/17/17 23:18, Adam Vande More wrote: > What? It doesn't seem like you have a good enough understanding to make a > claim like that. It is quite clear that bug is relavant only to jailed > instances of samba, and VFS related perms. Your current was already > explained to you once, and you've been reminded of it. Sorry to step in like this, but I find the original question quite interesting. Since we are using jailed Samba 4.4 instances, I'd be very worried if this setup would lose support in the future. Is there any plan to allow Samba to properly work in a jail? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 08:10:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D23E0010D for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic309-24.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic309-24.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A82378427C for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: fMIMKgUVM1mPvn6h9Ds01Pz_f7sDW_8QlsEbJXqK9nsyFHYz0rIH5fDoMNROrmt AhQhdAcsakjeXtfebJ3Sq2bzaoewTQPBYq6Sy4._zFsBCnLKzAmD7zQspckUtinfjsbe8D8vV3vm P.PaURt3o_H00xLARywCjFIGT7Dko83XCddUJjbezggVErM6q2i2DAePfHQv2U1LmphiPm_3ZZaB 4M1UidIJdMECb6TuxIAr71PkTiOLPLUa0GfV.jX_9WXhZ8.BMAabpy.fU3pKrQNPm6alFfUX8E5y j4DdwfCrbIkfO_R0zcUWQ1oZM6OC6tIjT_.UpZTAEtjOG1dAyDD5x3gZBsd7Hsrdlt7_x3d0vdty 3a0S2XCHtktN2CmwMM6ndDUi0qAyAVGCTOUaXgNFan7_bYxT4qHN_2HJEF8Rze.RmxvtVa8xF93b B93H1r3VVNowEfCwjkkwiJPksM02qcE79msCqXbsuPe7y9q.L0tfc9uVqh3CxQXnFgft6.BV.V9D oZDwCGO0fE8eZ2YK.HCE0nKM.UeaWp9i62riLuCai Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:09:56 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp121.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2017 07:10:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 301581.34397.bm@smtp121.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: fMIMKgUVM1mPvn6h9Ds01Pz_f7sDW_8QlsEbJXqK9nsyFHY z0rIH5fDoMNROrmtAhQhdAcsakjeXtfebJ3Sq2bzaoewTQPBYq6Sy4._zFsB CnLKzAmD7zQspckUtinfjsbe8D8vV3vmP.PaURt3o_H00xLARywCjFIGT7Dk o83XCddUJjbezggVErM6q2i2DAePfHQv2U1LmphiPm_3ZZaB4M1UidIJdMEC b6TuxIAr71PkTiOLPLUa0GfV.jX_9WXhZ8.BMAabpy.fU3pKrQNPm6alFfUX 8E5yj4DdwfCrbIkfO_R0zcUWQ1oZM6OC6tIjT_.UpZTAEtjOG1dAyDD5x3gZ Bsd7Hsrdlt7_x3d0vdty3a0S2XCHtktN2CmwMM6ndDUi0qAyAVGCTOUaXgNF an7_bYxT4qHN_2HJEF8Rze.RmxvtVa8xF93bB93H1r3VVNowEfCwjkkwiJPk sM02qcE79msCqXbsuPe7y9q.L0tfc9uVqh3CxQXnFgft6.BV.V9DoZDwCGO0 fE8eZ2YK.HCE0nKM.UeaWp9i62riLuCai X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:10:38 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up Message-ID: <20170918091038.5d047eeb@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: <58939.76.193.16.42.1505689766.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> <58939.76.193.16.42.1505689766.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-ubuntu-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:10:05 -0000 On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:09:26 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >As you, Mr. Polytropon, have disassembled the drive already, hence >have nothing to loose, try to clean that if you manage to access that >area. OTOH that the drive was opened one time, does not make it insignificantly risky to open it a second time. Opening the hard disk much likely was a big mistake. [1] I only would risk it a second time, if anything else doesn't help. 2 Cents, Ralf [1] Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 00:07:01 +0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com Subject: Failure Notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. [snip] Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:53:11 +0200 [snip] Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up [snip] On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:57:27 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >This is one place where percussive maintenance is justified. If you >can tap the drive in just the right way as it is trying to spin up, >you may be able to get it past the first few turns, after which it >should be able to gather enough momentum to keep going. You want to >hold the drive flat on the table, and tap the corner of the drive so >that it rotates in the same plane that the platters do. You'll have to >experiment to see what's most effective. +1 I had success with brute force. Opening the hard disk much likely was a big mistake. However, if my drives fail with this click-click noise and something should be missing by the backups, I demount the drives, but let them connected to the PSU and mobo, then I hit the drives from all directions with increasing force, from soft with the hand to not that soft with a stick, not necessarily while lying flat on a table. . 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Message-ID: <20170918110950.5b71f523@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:11:07 -0000 On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:48:03 +0000 "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > I recently built up a system (FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE amd64) using synth, > included hplip, went with qt5, have not tested this yet. > > Previous experience with qt4 was not favorable; printing worked most of > the time with a PPD from foo2zjs (both NetBSD and FreeBSD). > > I have never been successful with USB, only Ethernet (no wireless > connection). > > Printer is HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP. This printer requires print/hplip-plugin. > It seems to me the USB address would vary because of plugging and > unplugging USB devices, and turning off the printer when not in use. CUPS uses the vendor id, product id and serial number to find a device, not the device node under /dev. > Then I suppose you would have to rerun > perm usb/whatever 0664 and > /etc/rc.d/devfs restart > every time? No, the CUPS port installs a devd configuration file that sets permissions on every USB printer you plug in. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 09:40:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E6AE03F86 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from mail92c50.megamailservers.eu (mail73c50.megamailservers.eu [91.136.10.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA6CB2141 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) X-Authenticated-User: ralf.mardorf.alice-dsl.net Received: from archlinux.localdomain (x5ce0d030.dyn.telefonica.de [92.224.208.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail92c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v8I7ecjJ007692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:40 +0000 Message-ID: <1505720438.849.4.camel@alice-dsl.net> Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:40:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170918092034.430ea08b@moonstudio> References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> <20170917231344.54cf0fd4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170918092034.430ea08b@moonstudio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0201.59BF7878.013F, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.2 cv=T6H8d7CQ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OVNwonSDRcolrwV9OF0vkg==:117 a=OVNwonSDRcolrwV9OF0vkg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=55i8CSY0POiGpmMP094A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:40:09 -0000 On Mon, 2017-09-18 at 09:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:38:36 +0930, Shane Ambler wrote: > > How about a flaky voltage regulator that doesn't provide enough power > > to spin up the disk. > > The described symptoms indicate a hardware issue, it doesn't matter if ^^^^^^^^ not an electronically issue, anyway, if it should be an issue caused by electronic components, coolant spray might help troubleshooting. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 11:15:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D473FE08CF4 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5501644CF for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B858A8D0 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815DDD3E067; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:11:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=schamschula.com; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; s=schamschula.com; bh=r4ljXCIw6PvF4yh 9vP3OjHVybag=; b=HLdAloCYsZhC/pWR2exY1BIkoI0M74qAMLMpvXwso3nMNrI goAponGKKP0TtW7pFWkLCvJl33PrVhbA7x8lEpmb+Z4lf7m3kMeklON7M+oq/cot 2WedzeV24pe+0gNf2+5+K0WtgI0iiQOahJenvY+04dkQnaf606gkmspj21Oc= Received: from [10.0.1.75] (50-80-254-60.client.mchsi.com [50.80.254.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lists@schamschula.com) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB18AD3E064; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Recovering data from a broken HDD From: Marius Schamschula In-Reply-To: <8ac1423e-d996-bcdb-3068-ebe8ba7718c4@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:11:46 -0500 Cc: Adam Vande More , Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Message-Id: <2E6600A4-3FF4-491B-A7FB-C9D4E065F786@schamschula.com> References: <8ac1423e-d996-bcdb-3068-ebe8ba7718c4@gmail.com> To: Shamim Shahriar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:15:30 -0000 Shamim, I=E2=80=99ve used ddrescue for this in the past. There is a FreeBSD port = available (also available from MacPorts or Homebrew under macOS). > On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Shamim Shahriar = wrote: >=20 > On 17/09/2017 23:51, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Shamim Shahriar = > wrote: >>=20 >> Good evening all, hope everyone is well. >>=20 >> a little background: >> I have a couple of portable HDD. One of them was dropped a few >> weeks back, and then the computer stopped recognising it and asked >> it to be formatted. Once formatted, it appeared to start working >> again -- even though all previous data had been lost, and no, I am >> not trusting that device to hold any important data. >>=20 >> Last week, another HDD slipped through the hands (literally). This >> one too is showing the same/similar symptoms as the previous one. >> I believe that the data is still there, but somehow the alignment >> has shifted and hence the HDD controller is unable to provide the >> data. I am wondering, can anyone please suggest a data recovery >> programme that I can try on the drive? The HDD being not in the >> western/relatively-more-techy region cannot be sent to a data >> recovery company (and I have been told they cost you a fortune), >> but have access to m$ or Mac or Linux or BSD systems. So if anyone >> could please suggest something to try on (Yes, I had been on >> google, and found a huge amount of tools -- but I would much >> rather try out something that someone has already tried and can >> give some insight on). >>=20 >>=20 >> recoverdisk(1) >>=20 >> --=20 >> Adam > thanks Adam, that looks really interesting. I will try that as soon as = I get a large enough drive to put the data on (once the shops open). >=20 > In the meanwhile, if anyone has any other suggestion, please do feel = free to chime in. >=20 > Best regards >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions = > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org = " Marius -- Marius Schamschula From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 13:58:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77086E11EF1 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@bubblegen.co.uk) Received: from avasout06.plus.net (avasout06.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9F4769C39 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@bubblegen.co.uk) Received: from mail.bubblegen.co.uk ([80.229.236.194]) by avasout06 with smtp id B1yV1w0014CLJ54011yW1B; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:58:31 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=GetnpUfL c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=G4bc5lkgapKKm1P+Twxy3Q==:117 a=G4bc5lkgapKKm1P+Twxy3Q==:17 a=2JCJgTwv5E4A:10 a=80hmnl3cAAAA:8 a=mZVMob5ZVvSecG6awOcA:9 a=dnhLcuVQdDs7nCHN:21 a=dvzcxKcUewzxp_B6:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=S3DxTGW704AdDOwaZvwA:9 a=dnk6OksVnzVa2Rge:21 a=YxrKzdUhnm2cR2nJ:21 a=7HqbyKgEhqj1JSNA:21 a=G-y4FhfbluXncOafXg4t:22 Received: from mail-lf0-f47.google.com (mail-lf0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: matt) by mail.bubblegen.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A8DE4622014 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:58:28 +0100 (IST) Received: by mail-lf0-f47.google.com with SMTP id q132so635591lfe.5 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 06:58:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjVEVuioZq0XmIK16pJnMxeTa/GsXNx2yYnczBeV6D0ArQ5mNp6 mCe5mDpzDwLBTu9xTtKCNhaIjf5SDiQeoKeUeG4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDJ2U7lSZFFtWV6Hc3YVX5fb5802rhWAfWxdnQwGEeV9inufM/sak/jHsI2ipEWZqpW8tnnXjulpekU/IktAWw= X-Received: by 10.25.148.71 with SMTP id w68mr3217732lfd.152.1505743105869; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 06:58:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Matthew Lear Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:58:15 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: apcupsd comms issues with APC UPS Back-UPS XS 950U and NUT server To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:58:40 -0000 The solution to this was quite simple, although I'm confused as to why it had been working previously. I changed upsd so it was configured like so... [ups] driver = apcupsd-ups port = localhost desc = "APC Back-UPS XS 950U" ...and so far, no interruptions or comms problems have occurred. Maybe uhid and ugen were interfering but seems strange that it started happening. Maybe I missed something. Now, upsd just gets its info from apcupsd instead of trying to get it from the UPS directly. Makes sense really... :-) Hope this helps somebody. Cheers, Matt On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 21:03 Matthew Lear wrote: > Hi. I have 10.3-RELEASE running on an HP Proliant Micro Server Gen8. I've > had the machine a few years, but not as long as my trusty APC UPC Back RS > 800 which recently packed in. I bought an APC Back-UPS XS 950U to replace > it. I run apcupsd on the Proliant and also NUT in server mode. Connection > to the UPS is via USB. NUT is used so other machines on my LAN, such as my > Synology Diskstation, can be be 'power aware'. This setup has served me > very well for years and I'm happy. A day after installing the new XS 950U > UPS I started to wonder why FreeBSD was constantly notifying me by email > that 'Communications with UPS restored'. I've read some posts in the last > year or so about some issues with apcupsd and how some people wondered if > the communications protocol had changed subtly. Those posts involved > apcupsd running on the OS notifying users that power had failed when power > had not failed at all. On the surface it seemed like I was suffering a > similar problem with my new UPS... > > apcupsd invokes various scripts in ${prefix}/etc/apcupsd/ (eg > commfailure) when it detects various conditions. For example, loss of > power, power returned, comms fail etc. Those scripts send an email to > notify syadmin of the condition. > > Here's tail of /var/log/apcupsd.events with a few lines: > > 2017-09-12 20:30:11 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-12 21:41:47 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-12 22:00:16 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-12 22:20:10 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-12 22:44:39 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-12 23:05:14 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-12 23:15:45 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-12 23:27:36 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-13 00:21:21 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-13 00:58:53 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-13 01:36:16 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > 2017-09-13 02:02:05 +0100 Communications with UPS restored. > > My Diskstation emailed me at 0207 telling me it had lost connection to the > UPS. > > From 02:02:05 to now (~ 2030) I have not seen any more 'restored events'. > > From what I can tell, there is actually nothing wrong. There is no > notification of communications being lost - only comms being restored. And > the frequency of these seems irregular, too. > Restarting apcupsd doesn't change the behaviour. > > If I look in syslog something strange is going on: > > Sep 12 20:30:10 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 20:30:11 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 12 21:41:46 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 21:41:47 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 12 22:00:15 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 22:00:16 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 12 22:20:09 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 22:20:10 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 12 22:44:37 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 22:44:39 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 12 23:05:13 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 23:05:14 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 12 23:15:44 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 23:15:45 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 12 23:27:35 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 12 23:27:36 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 13 00:21:20 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 13 00:21:21 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 13 00:58:52 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 13 00:58:53 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 13 01:36:15 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 13 01:36:16 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 13 02:02:04 neon devd: Executing 'kldload -n uhid' > Sep 13 02:02:05 neon apcupsd[8770]: Communications with UPS > restored. > Sep 13 02:02:07 neon upsd[767]: Data for UPS [ups] is > stale - check driver > > devd is trying to (re)load uhid every so often and this is triggering the > comms restored event in apcupsd. > > The message from upsd likely explains why the Synology box is no longer > able to communicate with the NUT server instance. > I can only assume that the 'stale data' message is because of the repeated > communications messages and somehow this causing confusion so upsd has > decided it has had enough. > > After upsd flagged it was unhappy at 0202 I've not see any more comms > restored messages and apcupsd seems happy. > > I'm running apcupsd-3.14.14_2 and nut-2.7.4 > > Does anybody have any idea why this could be happening? It appears like > the cause of the problem is related to NUT somehow but I'm really not sure > why. > > Some config file snippets: > > apcupsd.conf: > UPSCABLE usb > UPSTYPE usb > DEVICE > LOCKFILE /var/spool/lock > SCRIPTDIR /usr/local/etc/apcupsd > PWRFAILDIR /var/run > NOLOGINDIR /var/run > ONBATTERYDELAY 6 > BATTERYLEVEL 5 > MINUTES 3 > TIMEOUT 0 > ANNOY 300 > ANNOYDELAY 60 > NOLOGON disable > KILLDELAY 0 > NETSERVER on > NISIP 0.0.0.0 > NISPORT 3551 > EVENTSFILE /var/log/apcupsd.events > EVENTSFILEMAX 10 > UPSCLASS standalone > UPSMODE disable > STATTIME 0 > STATFILE /var/log/apcupsd.status > LOGSTATS off > DATATIME 0 > > nut.conf: > MODE=netserver > > ups.conf: > [ups] > driver = usbhid-ups > port = /dev/ugen0.3 > desc = "APC Back-UPS XS 950U" > > dmesg.boot: > ugen0.3: at usbus0 > > Cheers, > -- Matt (happy FreeBSD user since 6.2) > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 15:34:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3997AE18C64 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdgc9092@server.on4-servers.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BE76E6AE for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdgc9092@server.on4-servers.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 20D8DE18C62; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206CBE18C61 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdgc9092@server.on4-servers.com) Received: from server.on4-servers.com (ns4.on4-servers.com [64.16.211.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F187B6E6AD for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdgc9092@server.on4-servers.com) Received: from cdgc9092 by server.on4-servers.com with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dty3z-0001EB-JW for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:34:24 -0600 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:34:23 +0000 To: questions@freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gu_Kailai?= Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?DID_YOU_GET_MY_EMAIL=3f=31k=33?= Message-ID: <9db6c39c0195bd64234c37a7cc7893f8@www.cdg.co.cr> X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.on4-servers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [568 579] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server.on4-servers.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.on4-servers.com: authenticated_id: cdgc9092/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Authenticated-Sender: server.on4-servers.com: cdgc9092 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:34:35 -0000 I am Kailai.I am donating towards the establishment of a Health charity hom= e to cater for the down trodden in the society.My project will include prov= iding shelter,care,treatment and research into some terminal aliment.I want= a trusted and capable hand to manage it on my behalf.If you are competent = and interested do reply for more details.Best Regards, Gu. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 15:45:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AC1E19762 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Received: from barracuda.ssimicro.com (barracuda.ssimicro.com [96.46.39.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4496A6EC00 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1505748386-08e71720c57d1ac0001-jLrpzn Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) by barracuda.ssimicro.com with ESMTP id C8SLViMks7mA4BPt (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:26:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: markham@ssimicro.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: mail.ssimicro.com[64.247.129.10] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 64.247.129.10 Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8IFQPeK007248 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:26:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Subject: Re: Disk not spinning up To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Disk not spinning up References: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917225042.abab307c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917230229.378686f0@archlinux.localdomain> <20170917231344.54cf0fd4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170918092034.430ea08b@moonstudio> <1505720438.849.4.camel@alice-dsl.net> From: markham breitbach Message-ID: <7116d009-9e2f-b317-d278-4c479ef86bf6@ssimicro.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:26:25 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1505720438.849.4.camel@alice-dsl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Barracuda-Connect: mail.ssimicro.com[64.247.129.10] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1505748386 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://barracuda.ssimicro.com:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 603 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ssimicro.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.43071 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:45:03 -0000 The intermittent nature of this, and the "wiggling things makes it go sometimes", makes me think this might be a cracked solder joint on the controller. As a last ditch effort it might be worth trying to reflow the board in a house-hold oven (convection-style ovens are best because of the more even heat distribution).=A0 I have not tried this myself, although I do have a friend that was able to fix a video-card doing this. google is your friend here:=A0 https://goo.gl/K8ZGos. -M disclaimer:=A0 WARNING!=A0 May produce toxic fumes or burn down your hous= e!=A0 do this at your own risk! :) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 16:16:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07AFE1B77D for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 16:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meghan.hudson@corporatebizleads.com) Received: from IND01-MA1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-ma1ind01on0114.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.100.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C51C66FBF5 for ; 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I enter my password. I check Unsubscribe me from LinkedIn email communications, including invitations. but the "Close Account", which is to the right of "Back to Settings", is faded and when I place the cursor over it, I get a small circle with a backslash in it, ala the no parking signs you see all over. So, how else can I close that account? I found no addresses for contacting Linkedin administrators. Thanx!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 18 18:31:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD28E24784 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net [194.109.24.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.net", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BBA2757F5 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net with ESMTPA id u0pHdcGqwmRxPu0pIdpRS8; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:31:24 +0200 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 12463 by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11+); Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:31:23 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:31:23 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Shamim Shahriar Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Recovering data from a broken HDD Message-ID: <20170918183122.GA5137@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Shamim Shahriar , freebsd-questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.0 (2017-09-02) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfNxSkmAS21aqWvwiuWFwGnXS14VbE+nlmxIRBhXEcI1PJGCBsO7WUPyWfE/4+l+OVyfzNA3e9GfH9gJGfjEqOZEgnB+7qRd4ZY7Q/zxrbvMl+Wy5DATE I98wW6dPo3ilMhThrQiQW5/m+6hrXHPq+QyyOwgp8KRfMsUMIktlJw61JRKV/RHBM3s6gWBH/xVJYg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:31:34 -0000 On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:39:20PM +0100, Shamim Shahriar wrote: > Good evening all, hope everyone is well. > > Last week, another HDD slipped through the hands (literally). This one too > is showing the same/similar symptoms as the previous one. I believe that the > data is still there, but somehow the alignment has shifted and hence the HDD > controller is unable to provide the data. I am wondering, can anyone please > suggest a data recovery programme that I can try on the drive? The HDD being > not in the western/relatively-more-techy region cannot be sent to a data > recovery company (and I have been told they cost you a fortune), but have > access to m$ or Mac or Linux or BSD systems. So if anyone could please > suggest something to try on (Yes, I had been on google, and found a huge > amount of tools -- but I would much rather try out something that someone > has already tried and can give some insight on). It depends. If the heads are bent and/or stuck on the parking ramp, you will need a recovery service to get anything back off that drive. Trying to use the drive in that case will cause irreversible damage because of the bent heads dragging across the surface of the platters. Since you don't want to use a recovery service, try to make an image of the disk as Polytropon suggested. If that works, you can probably retrieve a lot of the data from that image using the mentioned tools. How easy you can retrieve data depends on the extent of the damage and the filesystem used. Whatever you do, *do not try to write to the disk*. That will almost certainly make things worse. 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[50.243.4.3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y3sm4219173ioy.15.2017.09.18.11.41.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: unable to close my linked in account To: Fedora Community Users Support , FreeBSD Users References: <59C0109E.2040408@gmail.com> From: JD Message-ID: <59C01364.4060800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:41:40 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59C0109E.2040408@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:41:44 -0000 On 09/18/2017 12:29 PM, JD wrote: > After I login, I go to my account settings and go to > https://www.linkedin.com/psettings/ > From there, I select Closing your LinkedIn account > Takes me to > https://www.linkedin.com/psettings/account-management/close-submit > where I am prompted to enter my password (with which I logged in). > I enter my password. > I check > Unsubscribe me from LinkedIn email communications, including invitations. > > but the "Close Account", which is to the right of "Back to Settings", > is faded > and when I place the cursor over it, I get a small circle with a > backslash in it, > ala the no parking signs you see all over. > > So, how else can I close that account? > > I found no addresses for contacting Linkedin administrators. > > Thanx!!! Please see image of the last step to close an account at linkedin.com-closing-account.png If anyone else has a clue as to how to force the closure of one's own account, please share that info. 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[50.243.4.3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i125sm853668itf.1.2017.09.18.11.42.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: unable to close my linked in account To: Fedora Community Users Support , FreeBSD Users References: <59C0109E.2040408@gmail.com> <59C01364.4060800@gmail.com> From: JD Message-ID: <59C013B1.9020000@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:42:57 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59C01364.4060800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:42:59 -0000 On 09/18/2017 12:41 PM, JD wrote: > > > On 09/18/2017 12:29 PM, JD wrote: >> After I login, I go to my account settings and go to >> https://www.linkedin.com/psettings/ >> From there, I select Closing your LinkedIn account >> Takes me to >> https://www.linkedin.com/psettings/account-management/close-submit >> where I am prompted to enter my password (with which I logged in). >> I enter my password. >> I check >> Unsubscribe me from LinkedIn email communications, including >> invitations. >> >> but the "Close Account", which is to the right of "Back to Settings", >> is faded >> and when I place the cursor over it, I get a small circle with a >> backslash in it, >> ala the no parking signs you see all over. >> >> So, how else can I close that account? >> >> I found no addresses for contacting Linkedin administrators. >> >> Thanx!!! > > Please see image of the last step to close an account at > linkedin.com-closing-account.png > > If anyone else has a clue as to how to force the closure of one's own > account, please share that info. > > Sorry, I had the wrong data in the paste buffer. 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:54:53 -0000 On 17/09/2017 21:29, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> This is more a hardware question than a FreeBSD question, but >> as FreeBSD is involved, I think it's worth being asked here >> due to the experienced, intelligent, creative and (in an >> entirely positive sense) "unusual" participants on this list. >> >> I have a harddisk Quantum Fireball with ca. 1 GB capacity >> (yes, that's GB, not TB). It's a (P)ATA / "IDE" disk with >> a 40 pin connector for a flat cable, configured as master. >> >> The disk has been in use in a system that I built around 1995 >> and which I occasionaly used over the years. The last system >> activation was yesterday. Today, the disk just didn't spin up >> again. >> >> After extracting the disk from the system and using my fine >> "forensics adaptor" to power it, it made short cranking sounds >> (ca. 1 per second) and short beeps from time to time, then went >> silent. I can repeat this. >> >> Now I probably did something stupid, but a radio amateur friend >> had success with this approach on a 40 MB disk (yes, that's MB, >> not GB). I _opened_ the disk (with gloves, face mask and cap, >> just to minimize the dust falling from my head into the disk) >> and saw the central motor "rotate" clockwise and counterclockwise >> for less than 1/4 rotation. I tried to "help" the disk spin up >> as you can imagine, but it would not do so. >> >> My question: >> >> Had anyone had success getting such a disk work again? Is it >> worth searching my "museum" for a replacement controller? Or >> does it look more like a motor failure than a controller failure? >> >> I can read the disk with my "forensics adapter" like this (tested >> with the other 1.2 GB disk from the same system): >> >>     $ sudo mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da3s1 /mnt >> >> That's the FreeBSD-related part in this question. But of course, >> a disk not spinning up won't be recognized by the system. I'd like >> to at least access the disk once to copy as much as I can. >> >> Are there any ideas, options, chances, suggestions or experiments >> other than "throw it out of the window"? :-) >> >> >> > > The bearing the disk platters rotate on has lubricant that with usage > and time has dried out somewhat. Taping the top side of the drive on a > flat surface some times works. > > The best approach is to per-warn up the drive hardware before trying > to power it on. Put a bear light bulb or shine a flood light from a > close distance on to the metal covered side, IE; not the circuit board > side, until it gets almost to hot to touch. Then power it on and and > away you go almost every time this happens. > > Good luck. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > . > You'll need more than luck if you're trying to take a light bulb from a bear:) Steve. 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" when passing through CUPS protocol after successfully adding printers in vmware. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "manash pal" Organization: cybertron Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:40:44 -0000 dear friends, I am very new to FreeBSD, after stuyding at google and youtube, I have started to wipe out some embarrassment to go through this unix like os. however, after succussfully adding my printer through cups , I tried to proceed printing of a pdf document. but , got a repeated reply " UNABLE TO PRINT DOCUMENT, BROKEN PIPE ! " what does it mean ? and how to solve this problem ? pls, let me know. -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 09:01:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B3CE066F2 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2E4D7260A for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0564A926D for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how to fix " unable to print , broken pipe ! " when passing through CUPS protocol after successfully adding printers in vmware. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <88c4134a-854d-8f8e-2679-70f78fe00d15@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:01:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:01:40 -0000 On 19/09/2017 09:40, manash pal wrote: > I am very new to FreeBSD, after stuyding at google and youtube, I have > started to wipe out some embarrassment to go through this unix like os. > however, after succussfully adding my printer through cups , I tried to > proceed printing of a pdf document. but , got a repeated reply " UNABLE > TO PRINT DOCUMENT, BROKEN PIPE ! " what does it mean ? and how to solve > this problem ? pls, let me know. 'Broken pipe' is a pretty generic error that you'll come across fairly regularly as you learn more about BSD and Unixoid OSes in general. Pipelines are a fundamental concept in Unix -- essentially it's taking the output of one process and feeding it into the input of another. You frequently see it in the unix shell with constructs like: % grep foo /var/log/all.log | sed -e 's/foo/bar/' which finds all the lines in /var/log/all.log containing the string 'foo', and passes that output to a process which substitutes the string 'bar' for 'foo' and prints the result on the console. There are other ways of creating pipelines than this. All that 'broken pipe' means is that the first process ('grep' in the example above) is trying to write into a pipeline, but the second process ('sed' in the example) that is meant to read from the pipeline has gone away. That's what your error means, but it isn't very helpful in sorting out your printing. What you should do is examine any logfiles cups generates -- you may need to fiddle with settings that cups uses to turn up the logging level -- and see if there's anything more informative there. I assume you do know about the CUPS built-in web console on http://localhost:631/ ? You should be able to find logfiles etc. by plunking around in that interface. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 09:07:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5E4E06FD3 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x230.google.com (mail-qk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B892172FB1 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x230.google.com with SMTP id u67so2949547qkg.6 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mT2ioZqn+TBwq67fI2Qvaog4YhPfKNUs5UsTc+sza8c=; b=nmoTKMLxGtIkhow2Y1tDkZ1yrSO0fKsFU8sKpikp02EQmmetnsJyRDtbziv/XrnJ+Y BYVmNs6ClcX0U11EygH7A0FK7pQxfGa6zjmAbxZAD6m4qhQGQzN627JLsMbw22crg3RM Le9sFAltSZr06OTsYcEqOthL1ugHdcDiVMceAR5Jw/oaAncsXBgGSDQK2aeEBYZrIMes fuwZcSqVikH9lHQGxEFrmYkdZQt+DTyTg5uDsytvE/X3bsgkIyZjWqtljw3gvOwh3pUu h28S+UlBIV0XyKhWzgzMKN1Tur5T6PJJdo5u/Elcp4c5mO7oNxGVw3qcgr8U0B5knAIM 7+rg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mT2ioZqn+TBwq67fI2Qvaog4YhPfKNUs5UsTc+sza8c=; b=jk1v/tdrU0r/2R7CwqwdxCg8mf1DflE0bzoIhCz3TCoCXuILTQKk6mMElRktQEdkAp unW2wuUag+/IRlXMH1RCGTcH/hWOzUDhMUAdh7pzj4ggKSKZeb0wUxgy39OdK3KV5yNr z92oa1zsu7476VqjVZN6fXCfxHXhTufTwzC5AiGcE3Yj6x4zUWwHOpmnAZs1VMRur5Ny 1Wz/H+FlHJyJNDloHZd3JeCLppYJfbRm/NU+P8niu56RhfhXEC4XU6gMdHzAUUpie/wk LEIzQDZKbQnsv0U0Bw2+/5/nrl7uKs3p6qoWuDt5yRO/X5tq6VTlAhQEtcIEnZs6I5b1 /qjw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUglFuMMojAVxtV2emQSGlK2PrNXQUQLxg9HJh19cjNus+9xK80/ QlHBtB2ItbcoO0PUYIFsha9me5z1GMxXZ+kRl2s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBPNEayCqzykgJeMlpdOGKymeLeOT/myMg5FQJJ4PlSpWZjvAX7v3tpJTo/mwUGk1Bod7jccWMAGxocn6Wlzbw= X-Received: by 10.55.155.203 with SMTP id d194mr866450qke.288.1505812074747; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:07:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.27.239 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:07:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27aa284a-2de7-ead6-ecb8-3ca73f133d66@tysdomain.com> References: <8e90abb6-79b0-5f2a-8c1a-4126a663f0ee@citrin.ru> <27aa284a-2de7-ead6-ecb8-3ca73f133d66@tysdomain.com> From: krad Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:07:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: help with condensing bsd To: sorressean Cc: Anton Yuzhaninov , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:07:56 -0000 Thats what boot environments are for. Create a blank filesystem and then do and install with the dest-dir installed. make delete-old etc should take care of a lot of the issues. You could of course use pkgbase to create your base image, and you can strip bits off afterward quite easily. However as you a re doing a custom build there is no getting away from /usr/src, until pkgbase becomes standard in maybe 12, or 13. On 11 September 2017 at 14:59, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > On 9/8/2017 3:03 PM, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > > On 09/08/17 12:04, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > >> I wish to create a smaller BSD as I have a vps with a minimal amount of > >> space. > > 1. Reducing kernel size. > > > > create custom config - add to it all you need (drivers, geom/netgraph > > modules e. t. c.) and add line > > makeoptions NO_MODULES=yes > > > > only kernel will be build without modules. > > Kernel can be compressed using gzip -9 > > > > 2. World. > > > > Simple way - just disable optional stuff via src.conf > > Read man src.conf and add knobs like > > WITHOUT_ACCT=yes > > WITHOUT_ACPI=yes > > WITHOUT_AMD=yes > > e.t.c. > > to you src.conf > > > > Not all can be switched off via src.conf, but if you not building image > > for tiny embedded system a few extra Mb probably doesn't matter. > > > >> I know that I can buildworld and cut a lot of things out (does > >> anyone have a good example from where to start)? > >> My question is this: Once I buildworld and buildkernel, how do I package > >> these up? I have a few systems that need this new buildworld and > >> buildkernel, and i also want to replace the base iocage jail. > > Different options are possible. > > > > I use this way: > > > > On build host I run script make-release.sh [1] > > result of this script: files base.txz kernel.txz e. t. c. > > > > /usr/src/release/release.sh can be used instead, but for me it was more > > easy to write own script than customize release.sh. > > > > To upgrade OS on VPS I use shell script [2] which fetches this files and > > extracts them using tar. To upgrade files in /etc I currently use > > etcupdate (because mergemaster needs /usr/src). > > > > If you already have OS installed in this VPS you can install you custom > > build (and copy /etc/src.conf used for this build) and then run > > make delete-old && make delete-old-libs > > to delete switched off parts (but you will need /usr/src for this task). > > > To bad there's not a way to do this without /usr/src. If you just extract > this new system over your current system, how does that get rid of things > you removed? For example I got rid of bluetooth and various other things > that I don't want installed. > Thanks, > > Also you can save space by not keeping /usr/ports and installing binary > packages. If custom options are need you will have to run own package > repo using poudriere. > > 1. http://termbin.com/ad1c > 2. http://termbin.com/rvd8 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > > Take Care, > Tyler Littlefield > > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business > solutions. My personal site > My Linkedin > @Sorressean on Twitter > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 09:23:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EC0E07E6C for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CAB673C88 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:22:59 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26F763CC3F; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:22:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8J9MwoS004050; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:22:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:22:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "manash pal" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: how to fix " unable to print , broken pipe ! " when passing through CUPS protocol after successfully adding printers in vmware. Message-Id: <20170919112258.cf2362cf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 6E6426837DD X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1366 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:23:09 -0000 On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:10:37 +0530, manash pal wrote: > I am very new to FreeBSD, after stuyding at google and youtube, I have > started to wipe out some embarrassment to go through this unix like os. > however, after succussfully adding my printer through cups , I tried to > proceed printing of a pdf document. but , got a repeated reply " UNABLE TO > PRINT DOCUMENT, BROKEN PIPE ! " what does it mean ? Depends. The error "broken pipe" indicates a problem with data transmission between programs, usually the kind of "output of program A is input of program B". In CUPS, this piping concept creates a "data flow" through the different parts of the whole printing mechanism (technically not fully correct, but think of it like entry queue -> printer spooler -> printer filter -> out- out channel to printer). On that way, something happened. Open your web browser and go to http://localhost:631/ where you find the CUPS web interface. In the printer listing, you can see the full error. More information can be obtained from the CUPS log files, for example /var/log/cups/error_log. See if you find additional details there. Sidenote: When you say "I print a PDF document", please specify _how_ you print it, as there are several ways to do so, and this could also be part of the problem you're experiencing. For example, % lpr somefile.pdf is one way to print a PDF document, but so is opening it in a PDF viewer (which there are at least 5 availabe on FreeBSD) and hitting the "Print" button. Printing PDFs from Gimp is possible, too. The same (!) applies for the error message: Where did you read it? Which program provided the error message? CUPS? The PDF viewer you printed from? Was it a console message? If possible, provide the full text of the error message. In many cases, the error message text contains 50 % of the solution of the problem it is informing you about. The fewer guesswork is involved, the easier is it to get the desired diagnostic result. :-) > and how to solve this > problem ? Without proper diagnostics, there is nothing that I can say... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 09:47:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A781E0916A for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C586B74BF4 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8J9lJ1H072580 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:47:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v8J9lJ0o072577 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:47:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:47:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: how to fix " unable to print , broken pipe ! " when passing through CUPS protocol after successfully adding printers in vmware. In-Reply-To: <20170919112258.cf2362cf.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20170919112258.cf2362cf.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:47:30 -0000 On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:22+0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:10:37 +0530, manash pal wrote: > > I am very new to FreeBSD, after stuyding at google and youtube, I have > > started to wipe out some embarrassment to go through this unix like os. > > however, after succussfully adding my printer through cups , I tried to > > proceed printing of a pdf document. but , got a repeated reply " UNABLE TO > > PRINT DOCUMENT, BROKEN PIPE ! " what does it mean ? > > Depends. The error "broken pipe" indicates a problem with data > transmission between programs, usually the kind of "output of > program A is input of program B". In CUPS, this piping concept > creates a "data flow" through the different parts of the whole > printing mechanism (technically not fully correct, but think of > it like entry queue -> printer spooler -> printer filter -> out- > out channel to printer). On that way, something happened. > > Open your web browser and go to http://localhost:631/ where > you find the CUPS web interface. In the printer listing, you > can see the full error. > > More information can be obtained from the CUPS log files, > for example /var/log/cups/error_log. See if you find additional > details there. > > Sidenote: When you say "I print a PDF document", please specify > _how_ you print it, as there are several ways to do so, and > this could also be part of the problem you're experiencing. > For example, > > % lpr somefile.pdf > > is one way to print a PDF document, but so is opening it in > a PDF viewer (which there are at least 5 availabe on FreeBSD) > and hitting the "Print" button. Printing PDFs from Gimp is > possible, too. > > The same (!) applies for the error message: Where did you read > it? Which program provided the error message? CUPS? The PDF > viewer you printed from? Was it a console message? If possible, > provide the full text of the error message. In many cases, the > error message text contains 50 % of the solution of the problem > it is informing you about. > > The fewer guesswork is involved, the easier is it to get the > desired diagnostic result. :-) > > > > > and how to solve this > > problem ? > > Without proper diagnostics, there is nothing that I can say... Watch your PATH. I've seen plenty of CUPS and lpd(8) problems due to /usr/bin/l* being used instead of /usr/local/bin/l*, and vice versa. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 10:35:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F9BE0B68D for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C4277658F for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:35:01 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 527803CC3F; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:34:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8JAYxUA004301; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:34:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:34:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Trond =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Endrest=F8l?= Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: how to fix " unable to print , broken pipe ! " when passing through CUPS protocol after successfully adding printers in vmware. Message-Id: <20170919123459.a05afeb9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20170919112258.cf2362cf.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with C549B68365F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1447 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:35:10 -0000 On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:47:19 +0200 (CEST), Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:22+0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:10:37 +0530, manash pal wrote: > > > I am very new to FreeBSD, after stuyding at google and youtube, I hav= e =20 > > > started to wipe out some embarrassment to go through this unix like o= s. =20 > > > however, after succussfully adding my printer through cups , I tried = to =20 > > > proceed printing of a pdf document. but , got a repeated reply " UNAB= LE TO =20 > > > PRINT DOCUMENT, BROKEN PIPE ! " what does it mean ? > >=20 > > Depends. The error "broken pipe" indicates a problem with data > > transmission between programs, usually the kind of "output of > > program A is input of program B". In CUPS, this piping concept > > creates a "data flow" through the different parts of the whole > > printing mechanism (technically not fully correct, but think of > > it like entry queue -> printer spooler -> printer filter -> out- > > out channel to printer). On that way, something happened. > >=20 > > Open your web browser and go to http://localhost:631/ where > > you find the CUPS web interface. In the printer listing, you > > can see the full error. > >=20 > > More information can be obtained from the CUPS log files, > > for example /var/log/cups/error_log. See if you find additional > > details there. > >=20 > > Sidenote: When you say "I print a PDF document", please specify > > _how_ you print it, as there are several ways to do so, and > > this could also be part of the problem you're experiencing. > > For example, > >=20 > > % lpr somefile.pdf > >=20 > > is one way to print a PDF document, but so is opening it in > > a PDF viewer (which there are at least 5 availabe on FreeBSD) > > and hitting the "Print" button. Printing PDFs from Gimp is > > possible, too. > >=20 > > The same (!) applies for the error message: Where did you read > > it? Which program provided the error message? CUPS? The PDF > > viewer you printed from? Was it a console message? If possible, > > provide the full text of the error message. In many cases, the > > error message text contains 50 % of the solution of the problem > > it is informing you about. > >=20 > > The fewer guesswork is involved, the easier is it to get the > > desired diagnostic result. :-) > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > > and how to solve this =20 > > > problem ? > >=20 > > Without proper diagnostics, there is nothing that I can say... >=20 > Watch your PATH. I've seen plenty of CUPS and lpd(8) problems due to=20 > /usr/bin/l* being used instead of /usr/local/bin/l*, and vice versa. Yes. And I have invented many ugly hacks to deal with this situation. :-) CUPS's default installation path for the binaries is /usr/local/bin, as intended. But due to the order in $PATH, the wrong utility could be called (the lpd one instead of the CUPS one). There is a port option to install the binaries into the OS location /usr/sbin and overwrite the OS tools, but that can cause problems during updates. There is lots of potential for confusion. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I have laptop ASUS with i7(7 Generation). Thank's for you answer. Francois Bida Limoges(France). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 21:46:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45383E07392 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "neonpark.inter-sonic.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08BDA6E347 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Intersonic AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intersonic.se; s=INTERSONICSE; t=1505857148; bh=/Odt4VGW/Ndc8mACoWfIBGgf/OWmxsb5qFJJH+eFzkA=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=5srBwpG7FWZIc5mxLKIH/xJzu9f+qQjiWB4lOyGvGGCGg4qIE7vkZNp/DSpwH0PhP 1tZty1rNpZEYXpqd50Zg0tMndSRxo5OGKkkG2IuFcaOCDa2l34a+G5sK80UENmF+hk yLnTbNvG1YJMkvHluUfqVJvKtWBlfxyPfCU5mNDs= Subject: Re: To: Francois Robert , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB Message-ID: <608c3ce1-c29c-0924-473c-e08c7e64b72f@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:39:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:46:45 -0000 On 2017-09-19 13:18, Francois Robert wrote: > Hello, > > > why FreeBSD-11.1 or frreBSD-12-CURRENT without UEFI? > > I have laptop ASUS with i7(7 Generation). > > > Thank's for you answer. No? https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=uefi&sektion=8 https://wiki.freebsd.org/UEFI From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 23:27:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3258BE0D0F3 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com (mail-io0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F37D4714BE for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id h66so2524951ioh.11 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:27:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zlH8tuNtERT1Za9tU66Lj3x/lvX0LK4ZrSJc65143wE=; b=sYTR/emXl5m1T7532GqEJly/CEqyj82240PTEqjzPWO8VvQm3/7bUb9VwXqpbSipuj YbU6OK/8EJCOf9YtdyaGPtYQXNrL7wwLy3y6wZFulQ2BwLTgQN9e6WsFUgbXW9ef4hnd /lipb/HdFQzKiqZnKAQXTWjlaLUCsXZc5NoZZkh6hK30RToQF944R35iJkwEZ+k37Byo zHfeFXOLmRQJlYxlpZUxjwCq0AVuTAJvSB3biRTGgTkCxYcEoFXdy15MiUUBHdlgNCMS VoZI30dMF8V2ZEaWSMxuSA20uVpXGVGKHlCigVGRGCPRTBsh4nZ55wA+0WQHYb6vaXab qDEA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zlH8tuNtERT1Za9tU66Lj3x/lvX0LK4ZrSJc65143wE=; b=QuI5sUuFqXlpAkZpBOwstn8EFsfefo8e5EFl2lwfnRQlLtlc/XWWEQ9ZT/+rEPt6jI gU21nQ4d/jhIjDWUFYRwy6AHeE0jsIz6Fznr9N3qGBZp5mpOtOcvI4oiTGe3vW38QDhY brtfGveUYzLoQyYrMyXdth/Lh7qsg4fKvcRHeuvSSWyl2fYBiv0VzY7TzQf+7eLiSLoV bTAEsw93vCkf9GYvTA5o30XZJXd8J+7ToLh/qHXSWeai6j+GMdkIaBocTFO9wwQj/98V Hcm16+XgroES6voPc5IZFD59dX2bL7G0qW/TVLgyCmHD+6Z/we0yDat95QwnfQfQn0oe zJmg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhmrzo/8d4NK3RBcmQPUn9vWI9xvgYvVsWxYibGDcu1hEKNPLF3 ZZzoB/8/Zf9eJrH7MVXlsXVBhQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDvC325tVRP/QCZmd2ymphTjeYVCYmjPBy74QUdI1LxO/tnFr+rZQGDtjka58PoEACtSTHr+A== X-Received: by 10.107.222.20 with SMTP id v20mr4242689iog.20.1505863623853; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-74-141-88-147.neo.res.rr.com. [74.141.88.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id w136sm1693076itw.44.2017.09.19.16.27.02 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59C1A7C6.8010604@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:27:02 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Help using resolvconf command Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:27:05 -0000 At boot time this is what /etc/resolv.conf looks like # Generated by resolvconf search neo.rr.com nameserver 209.18.47.61 nameserver 209.18.47.62 My /etc/resolvconf.conf looks like this name_servers="127.0.0.1" execute resolvconf -u and /etc/resolv.conf now looks like this # Generated by resolvconf search neo.rr.com nameserver 127.0.0.1 I want /etc/resolv.conf to looks like this nameserver 127.0.0.1 What do I have to add to /etc/resolvconf.conf to make that happen? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 23:44:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CA2E0E142 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B585E7209F for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v8JNhwhI015113; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:43:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Help using resolvconf command To: Ernie Luzar , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <59C1A7C6.8010604@gmail.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <211d9d6f-049d-e5a1-c412-176b47927d86@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:43:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59C1A7C6.8010604@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:44:12 -0000 On 09/20/17 01:27, Ernie Luzar wrote: > At boot time this is what > /etc/resolv.conf looks like > > # Generated by resolvconf > search neo.rr.com > nameserver 209.18.47.61 > nameserver 209.18.47.62 > > My /etc/resolvconf.conf looks like this > > name_servers="127.0.0.1" > > > execute resolvconf -u > > and /etc/resolv.conf now looks like this > > # Generated by resolvconf > search neo.rr.com > nameserver 127.0.0.1 > > > > I want /etc/resolv.conf to looks like this > > nameserver 127.0.0.1 > > > What do I have to add to /etc/resolvconf.conf to make that happen? If you get your ip with DHCP you can put this in your /etc/dhclient.conf supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 23:52:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E80E0E902 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from 004.las.mailroute.net (004.las.mailroute.net [199.89.4.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD17972788 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by 004.las.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3xxfnN0yxyzMks6; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:52:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from 004.las.mailroute.net ([199.89.4.7]) by localhost (004.las.mailroute.net. 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Schwartz) To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: case command References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917155649.e869897ddcc97c3c9d04929c@sohara.org> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.4.14.13; tzolkin = 8 Ben; haab = 11 Chen Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:52:37 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20170917155649.e869897ddcc97c3c9d04929c@sohara.org> (Steve O'Hara-Smith's message of "Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:56:49 +0100") Message-ID: <86ingedz5m.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:52:47 -0000 >>>>> "Steve" == Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: Steve> That poor overworked cat :) I approve this message! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 19 23:54:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827B1E0EADB for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from 007.lax.mailroute.net (007.lax.mailroute.net [199.89.1.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 682E572895 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from 001.las.mailroute.net (001.las.mailroute.net [199.89.4.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by 007.lax.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3xxfqN4NRDz1lvV9 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by 001.las.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3xxfqG2fpdz8sXj; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:54:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from 001.las.mailroute.net ([199.89.4.4]) by localhost (001.las.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id YwRRvlJEdp69; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by 001.las.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3xxfqB6Xksz8sXN; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 644411D6B; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:54:14 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Shane Ambler Cc: Polytropon , mfv@bway.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: case command References: <59BE89E1.3050209@gmail.com> <20170917193722.7d2ecbe3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917160758.18b6000e@gecko4> <20170917223211.bd017503.freebsd@edvax.de> <9b5867e7-4b41-5a7e-fb79-316ccb474e7b@ShaneWare.Biz> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.4.14.13; tzolkin = 8 Ben; haab = 11 Chen Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:54:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <9b5867e7-4b41-5a7e-fb79-316ccb474e7b@ShaneWare.Biz> (Shane Ambler's message of "Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:10:54 +0930") Message-ID: <86efr2dz2x.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:54:31 -0000 >>>>> "Shane" == Shane Ambler writes: Shane> Well as we're listing alternate ways - Shane> cat upper.txt | perl -ne 'print lc' UUOCA! perl -ne 'print lc' upper.txt -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 20 05:31:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B68E2351D for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A07803D2 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7FF61E2351C; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA1DE2351B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34296803D1 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654CAD7883; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:24:08 +0700 (ICT) Authentication-Results: mail.cs.ait.ac.th (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=cs.ait.ac.th DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :subject:subject:from:from:received:received:received; s= selector1; t=1505885047; x=1507699448; bh=OaMmAglWF14LLUwkDyTVcY y1XZGat6s0/YBIK5tmwcA=; b=PgxT0h4y0h0fxKAi6NXPVMas2fI1N/BXG5QI4s VGmKg6f4JnPMQaWb4foLyR6O1eSCSEtf18mk208LGwyK1RmwchTtZ8N9NmhZgNPx BdmjIpNBmM/cBPCT6DYig5Sw1s5HS4oZLyZbNo5+lZB3bQPjXr3Fo7xeap0Y2HU4 km3eU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Bp_8fIlBsZW5; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:24:07 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2103D7881; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:24:07 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v8K5O7so000327; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:24:07 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: Olivier Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mount devfs in a chroot'd environment at boot Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:24:07 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:31:00 -0000 Hi, I am using FreeRadius as provided in the ports. It has an option to be chroot'd, but this option is not implemented in the default ports. In order to have FreeRadius staring, I need to mount devfs in the chroot'd environment, at boot, before FreeRadius is started. I would prefer to avoid mo0difying /usr/local/etc/rc.d/radiusd (because any upgrade of the port will overwrite my modifications), so how can I make something in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.local that will mount devfs *before* radiusd is started? TIA, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 20 05:51:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42F5E24501 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B017480F18 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AF26BE24500; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAC0E244FF for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72C7880F17 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id n69so3086633ioi.5 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:51:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KF2kQRMh8sjqQYwZi5QlSCKHE3PZOOyPZOuOXrX5VJM=; b=EF9w2Wf0/YZCr/TVLeCXSXH5YoBcaop31nLAr8wq27x9l8u4rZN7mjAT/fVypi6Jcz eW+8N++dmzTGbgoF4XTqk8B7NyxzkQlaeUq9k/9rExl7tr25byPdmbd01s2cS9xol5qP OXOTnWw/bbKFt1oWClyW9uMBML0p89y81AraW+zOCXCAYrKNhX6RxnkXWoaeY8uIKjga T4XNrBGN8ZiVDfz6BZkwvnhWQLNqOpOXOW4edxrdu6JOCs+8Bc8il0a4ro1PJ8+l+bmW TWS77gTsdBCMgmhm9boXMqcsZrabEXbg+Dt9dqzPh1WCmj0iuhcxFKxnp4nRuU4gtUjn P+sQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KF2kQRMh8sjqQYwZi5QlSCKHE3PZOOyPZOuOXrX5VJM=; b=gdGWBpa6HXEynSB3+TUWdqKOCF6J2WJ3ApKeTZdEndJF75hAjPugCh3fcFLJ0Fz9LL w/rNSk2GBxjhpDKM0troVOx9gWEpa4pCyYe9ta3RqXRSpa5K7Xlg7cABw85mG8puvpWI cc5tpn0weZmZX4qCgMmT76+dXiG0XP+esolquxtjjwGz5nhIlrpjak2tIpEiBleGC0LW 4gv+/crgJiR895xL2vyQv4OppbHhuJbJe1wWeg694IHAReJ7L4tyJrJjVRdLaJ6fUsGq 9IQz9eVCHOcvUFub/Z2pg5uCBVkhm8AlBsvYsay+LTLkRYeASY1esW0CBdOmb0Hfgn+G KdWg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUg7juPh7wvbzPO5/RtiAzhW+wUOzvrvloIYCvQME38EwmBUfEIz yZmczL3rnoeVAczwHNsWAfzQLGVTSpjG3UHJNQg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDsjfH7vOkOQbHjcAnxnLZaOZsgFpytaJzJF5q/hgZob8EUoOjEYaPDAE6lDiHtnFcNiicRiuCfdvL2cGND/HY= X-Received: by 10.107.68.1 with SMTP id r1mr5246222ioa.16.1505886717686; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:51:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.145.141 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:51:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Vande More Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 00:51:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mount devfs in a chroot'd environment at boot To: Olivier Cc: Olivier , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:51:58 -0000 On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Olivier wrote: > Hi, > > I am using FreeRadius as provided in the ports. It has an option to be > chroot'd, but this option is not implemented in the default ports. > > In order to have FreeRadius staring, I need to mount devfs in the > chroot'd environment, at boot, before FreeRadius is started. > > I would prefer to avoid mo0difying /usr/local/etc/rc.d/radiusd (because > any upgrade of the port will overwrite my modifications), so how can I > make something in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.local that will mount devfs > *before* radiusd is started? > man devfs.conf -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 20 06:18:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FB5E25299 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D717D81925 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D644BE25298; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D1AE25297 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A2A281924 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB51D7883; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:18:53 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1505888333; x=1507702734; bh=auQ00B6fA w4K0LVm8MafTrDrFp5HL47unzTbeaH1KA8=; b=momFrZqcXy0uv85zb78AzgBPI frMSI8GlVz0IuoJsaoEnljIwmUEdXTH0THFdQ5jjsUvSQi/jIOd7RvjtsHBqrqx8 GSgDtwkK9KANoxD+zuCqWi5SEmGxtG8UZaXWsR+Qa/6QbP4hm9Mnp+S9+TDFeKQI IGciZ3jPb2Uj08JdvY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id lBKcYnh63L83; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:18:53 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71B4ED7881; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:18:53 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v8K6Ir7j002072; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:18:53 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: Adam Vande More Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount devfs in a chroot'd environment at boot In-Reply-To: (message from Adam Vande More on Wed, 20 Sep 2017 00:51:56 -0500) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:18:53 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:18:57 -0000 Thanks Adam, >> I am using FreeRadius as provided in the ports. It has an option to be >> chroot'd, but this option is not implemented in the default ports. >> >> In order to have FreeRadius staring, I need to mount devfs in the >> chroot'd environment, at boot, before FreeRadius is started. >> >> I would prefer to avoid mo0difying /usr/local/etc/rc.d/radiusd (because >> any upgrade of the port will overwrite my modifications), so how can I >> make something in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.local that will mount devfs >> *before* radiusd is started? > man devfs.conf I read the man but saw nothing related to a: mount -t devfs devfs /var/chroot/freeradiusd/dev And I saw nothing related to how to ensure the proper order at startup. But in fact my question was stupid, I just have to add the mount in /etc/fstab Thank you, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 20 10:58:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759D9E089B1 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mj@bsdops.com) Received: from da.strony-domeny.pl (da.strony-domeny.pl [178.32.204.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D09B66885 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mj@bsdops.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdops.com; s=x; h=Message-ID:Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=BOnUo0hOVaWSXzllhNX6ajlo5Mw5kQO61d/bBhrXd08=; b=GYcsaEK93YIbMktW+hES/GInF6ZHiZ8bkAoRLEN/NDsG2Tlv9rx3uq3Q6KqzTtDEP0G8IfgzLd m/4snZt+Y4dAlb14DE534Ixbc+J2K7hbTrBQIBQeiPN5Zq7BPhNEvrSUDciIGbozJsrqyiBf4AtJZ 2zEkLHzGj7blNDEo7LbA0rPIieTXJEQ1l7Uz8JBdqWtwkvQu7doBroh/7TSLB3rUjY3vCWVv72Ro5 OnelE68iUSVrGxXaaIGI6KIRX1on0uCpFvAaCKbbZd6N0iuZ97TXnddQeAdRWsfe65C+/XJNyiZ8W Rx7G/KDAUhgsFtrFINhbHSOCMjHsB7921Ukrw==; 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Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:07:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.145.141 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:07:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Vande More Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:07:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mount devfs in a chroot'd environment at boot To: Olivier Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:07:56 -0000 On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Olivier wrote: > I read the man but saw nothing related to a: > mount -t devfs devfs /var/chroot/freeradiusd/dev > > And I saw nothing related to how to ensure the proper order at startup. > > But in fact my question was stupid, I just have to add the mount in > /etc/fstab > I misunderstood your question, but it seems you found the correct solution anyway. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 06:01:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C6DE16008 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 06:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from mail.ze.tum.de (mail.ze.tum.de [IPv6:2001:4ca0:2e03::1:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.ze.tum.de", Issuer "Zertifizierungsstelle der TUM" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F34C6ADCF for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 06:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.200]) by mail.ze.tum.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8L61Fr7087753 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:01:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) To: Freebsd Questions From: Gerhard Schmidt Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?Technische_Universit=c3=a4t_M=c3=bcnchen_-_WWW_und_O?= =?UTF-8?Q?nline_Services?= Subject: FreeBSD Bridging doesn't work on FreeBSD 11 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:01:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 06:01:21 -0000 Hi, I'm doing some packetfiltering between two network segments. I've a running bridge on FreeBSD 8.2 cloned_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_bridge0="fxp0 fxp1" ifconfig_bridge0="inet 10.100.32.15/24 up" ifconfig_fxp0="up" ifconfig_fxp1="up" this one running for years without a hitch. But it's quite old so I'm building a replacement on FreeBSD 11.1 I've copied these setting and the firewall configs as well. cloned_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_bridge0="em0 em1" ifconfig_bridge0="inet 10.100.32.18/24 up" ifconfig_em0="up" ifconfig_em1="up" The new bridge starting up does bridge the traffic but the bridge server can't communicate. here is the output from ifconfig em0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9b ether 08:00:27:53:57:a0 hwaddr 08:00:27:53:57:a0 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active em1: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9b ether 08:00:27:12:e7:9e hwaddr 08:00:27:12:e7:9e nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 nd6 options=21 groups: lo bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 02:3d:73:0f:54:00 inet 10.100.32.18 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.100.32.255 nd6 options=9 groups: bridge id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 2000 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: em1 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 2000000 member: em0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 if delete the bridge and configure em0 directly ip works. anyone a idea what I'm doing wrong. Regards Estartu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 14:03:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFADE060F1 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2053B7F238 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from Debian-exim by mx.nsu.ru with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1dv24q-0008NA-BL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:03:40 +0700 Received: from [84.237.50.47] (helo=regency.nsu.ru) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1dv24q-0008Mt-8S; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:03:40 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v8LE9RdM072362; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:09:27 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id v8LE9Lt4072278; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:09:21 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:09:21 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Gerhard Schmidt Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Bridging doesn't work on FreeBSD 11 Message-ID: <20170921140921.GA71093@regency.nsu.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 3 X-KLMS-Message-Action: skipped X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, whitelist X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: not scanned, whitelist X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, whitelist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:03:45 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 08:01:09AM +0200, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > Hi, Hi Gerhard, > I'm doing some packet filtering between two network segments. I've a > running bridge on FreeBSD 8.2 > > cloned_interfaces="bridge0" > autobridge_interfaces="bridge0" > autobridge_bridge0="fxp0 fxp1" > ifconfig_bridge0="inet 10.100.32.15/24 up" > ifconfig_fxp0="up" > ifconfig_fxp1="up" > > this one running for years without a hitch. But it's quite old so I'm > building a replacement on FreeBSD 11.1 [and now] new bridge starting > up does bridge the traffic but the bridge server can't communicate. I don't have a precise answer to your question, but certain network features had been broken in FreeBSD 11+, including bridging [1] and LAGG [2]. You might want to try 10.4 for the time being as there's currently low interest in fixing those regressions, unfortunately. ./danfe [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=217606 [2] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2017-June/048284.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 16:49:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3B5E0FFD2 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serena.alexander@itreachengine.com) Received: from IND01-MA1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-ma1ind01on0095.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.100.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BEB5789 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serena.alexander@itreachengine.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 17:01:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922F2E10FD7 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x230.google.com (mail-io0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 585D8112F for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x230.google.com with SMTP id g32so12340343ioj.2 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=01oKxzkio4KI3vr83DuKkyAl8/HU6H04NWbPbNN1S0o=; b=GLJOdtMRevOxYr46yzIIggfPEDKzEFaZyjolRrgmCudTgNkqZXPOB/PBO/t413kqBU xdmExiji5Gk3S+e9U3qJbUxTvcew48f/TBf3nbcGtbqsB8WWTVmSGQi0twHwr9eTlFtu UZxTD1jZN05y1c0p4AqCPwYuYOP+7Y+PdaVeqfxpT/5IPPm+iU5o1bikZbdEGyUEGL/H INmGcctVEH+UOrQ8EVGcIVY65hLKdCELCZ3BTZ5EfJlx2z9GdhQX7N8dggDIXgQ86WG4 E3HXu0XrgsTdUJ8WCnujnAxl8VZu0ueSRhgvVl44F+o3Qlq+vveY4dpTVCyoHmoYrDL3 R6xA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=01oKxzkio4KI3vr83DuKkyAl8/HU6H04NWbPbNN1S0o=; b=htab/cGiSMRdQmgw0SwsCg7Uo2r1ZyknZerZ4POmE/8uTJh1JbVh3XcXgASvGNQAn6 K32jgdzjAePzZOAcIwCSYhhwfrSzPeWAv1id20J7Sgp16zKUqIwreoNzXODsxtI4T6Jy JHNfeylin+BXEafgb2pHxMOk4EmuZ2N43ebWflY/YaBe0kKnr9N+Y//i2eZROkpUsDYW g0cquIDLa/xBSqNeoXc3HLV9ethb09aClttwBNU6APby5AxptpARZTAT24qTHqsqhA6l ELuNhF5NMhh4w60Dx0Pxa1wsAJAh04N8k4xjkRRyYNmDh2MelgOhr1Gu+Gy5aUF9+SkK w7aQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgYI7kXyMGHQMpbRjNahEJJFmu5FlpgXNDP/W3MmBAgpxvHCnyv 8Fq0zKczImMtoTDl78ouchUkcO/0Uzagts3NdIk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QB4JLNCDhw9Fx+XkKKnpPrlqnk58Q+WRVibnjK3QxBWT7W//VyDh26AKNAueMtXmNIKWrrRxqfhz436dG1KOUI= X-Received: by 10.107.183.213 with SMTP id h204mr4283473iof.61.1506013302835; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:01:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.145.141 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:01:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170921140921.GA71093@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20170921140921.GA71093@regency.nsu.ru> From: Adam Vande More Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:01:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Bridging doesn't work on FreeBSD 11 To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Gerhard Schmidt , Freebsd Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:01:44 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > I don't have a precise answer to your question, but certain network > features had been broken in FreeBSD 11+, including bridging [1] and > LAGG [2]. You might want to try 10.4 for the time being as there's > currently low interest in fixing those regressions, unfortunately. > > ./danfe > It is disingenuous to imply things are broken when they are not. The first link you sent isn't close to conclusive, and may have absolutely nothing to do with a bridge per se. You can also find the OP's more in-depth description in the mailing list archives along with other relevant information to your "broken" claim. Many of us are using bridges without issue. For example: bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 description: vm-public ether 02:68:50:0c:f1:00 inet 172.16.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 nd6 options=1 groups: bridge id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 0 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 2000 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0 member: tap0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 128 path cost 2000000 member: wlan0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 33333 # freebsd-version -ku 11.1-STABLE 11.1-STABLE If things like bridge or lagg were actually broken in some non-edge case, hard to replicate way then it would receive its due attention. If you've got an edge case no one else can replicate, it's probably going to sit out there awhile. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 17:09:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5690BE127AF for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rrsum@summerhill.org) Received: from cody.summerhill.org (104-179-148-192.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [104.179.148.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cody.summerhill.org", Issuer "cody.summerhill.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05F811585 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rrsum@summerhill.org) Received: from imac.summerhill.org (imac.summerhill.org [192.168.1.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by cody.summerhill.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8LGpZ5Z056871 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:51:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rrsum@summerhill.org) From: Rick Summerhill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: eSata cards and AHCI Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:51:35 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:09:03 -0000 I=E2=80=99m having a problem with eSata cards and AHCI on a FreeBSD 11.0 = RELEASE test box. I=E2=80=99ve been running a generic dual port eSata = card from StarTech, with a 4 bay Mediasonic (port multiplier supported) = enclosure on one port and a single bay generic enclosure on the other. = Everything has worked fine with that configuration. However, I=E2=80=99m = trying replace the single bay enclosure with second 4 bay Mediasonic = enclosure. The StarTech card apparently doesn=E2=80=99t support two pmp = enclosures, so I=E2=80=99ve been experimenting with different eSata = cards. The current one is a Syba SD-PEX40049 2 port card based on the = ASM 1061 chipset. The original enclosure has 4 drives (in a zfs raidz = configuration) and the new enclosure has 3 drives. When the machine is booted, the bios on the eSata card sees all 7 disks = and reports them properly to the console, and in fewer than 2 seconds. After the reboot, none of the 7 drives appear in the machines device = list, although the card itself appears as ahci0 (see below for the = pertinent dmesg segments). Note also that FreeBSD itself is on = internal ufs drives, so the machine boots fine, it just doesn=E2=80=99t = see the drives in the two external enclosures. After logging in, I then run camcontrol reset 0 (actually, sometimes I = need to run it several times, and sometimes I need to run camcontrol = rescan 0), and finally the first four drives appear. Then camcontrol = reset 1 typically makes the other 3 drives appear. See the dmesg = segment below after running these commands. =46rom then on the machine = seems normal Here are my questions: 1. Is this a controller issue? 2. Is this an issue with the controller card? 3. If so, is there a recommended eSata card that works in this = configuration? Any help in debugging this would be greatly appreciated. Boot dmesg segments: ahci0: port = 0xe050-0xe057,0xe040-0xe043,0xe030-0xe037,0xe020-0xe023,0xe000-0xe01f = mem 0xf7d10000-0xf7d101ff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 ahci0: AHCI v1.20 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 pmp0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 15 lun 0 pmp0: ATA device pmp0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, NONE, PIO 8192bytes) pmp0: 15 fan-out ports pmp1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 15 lun 0 pmp1: ATA device pmp1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, NONE, PIO 8192bytes) pmp1: 15 fan-out ports Running camcontrol devlist yields the following: at scbus0 target 15 lun 0 = (pass0,pmp0) at scbus1 target 15 lun 0 = (pass1,pmp1) dmesg after running camcontrol reset 0 and camcontrol reset 1: ahcich0: Timeout on slot 14 port 15 ahcich0: is 00800000 cs 00000000 ss 00000000 rs 00004000 tfd 1d0 serr = 00000000 cmd 0004cd17 (pmp0:ahcich0:0:15:0): WRITE_PM. ACB: e8 01 ff ff ff 02 00 00 00 00 ff = 00 (pmp0:ahcich0:0:15:0): CAM status: Command timeout (pmp0:ahcich0:0:15:0): Retrying command ada3 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada3: ATA8-ACS SATA 3.x device ada3: Serial Number 9WM5KLW7 ada3: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada3: Command Queueing enabled ada3: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors) ada4 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 2 lun 0 ada4: ATA8-ACS SATA 3.x device ada4: Serial Number 9WM47YFF ada4: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada4: Command Queueing enabled ada4: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors) ada5 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 1 lun 0 ada5: ATA8-ACS SATA 3.x device ada5: Serial Number Z1E0621D ada5: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada5: Command Queueing enabled ada5: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors) ada5: quirks=3D0x1<4K> ada6 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 3 lun 0 ada6: ATA8-ACS SATA 3.x device ada6: Serial Number Z2F03WHB ada6: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada6: Command Queueing enabled ada6: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors) ada6: quirks=3D0x1<4K> ada7 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 ada7: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device ada7: Serial Number Z4Z8EZFL ada7: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada7: Command Queueing enabled ada7: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors) ada7: quirks=3D0x1<4K> ada8 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 1 lun 0 ada8: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada8: Serial Number ZDH1SYWE ada8: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada8: Command Queueing enabled ada8: 3815447MB (7814037168 512 byte sectors) ada8: quirks=3D0x1<4K> ada9 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 2 lun 0 ada9: ATA8-ACS SATA 3.x device ada9: Serial Number Z9AFT5NM ada9: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada9: Command Queueing enabled ada9: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) ada9: quirks=3D0x1<4K> --Rick -- Rick Summerhill Retired, Chief Technology Officer, Internet2 10233 Timberhill Rd Manchester, MI 48158 USA -- Home: 734-428-1422 Cell: 734-276-1904 Email: rrsum@summerhill.org Web: http://www.rick.summerhill.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 17:09:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B94E1283F for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x22b.google.com (mail-pf0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D55441620 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id d187so3503591pfg.11 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:09:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxcrypt.com; s=dkim01; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JJ/x+B0RHQeZBRb/jxlOPsH0gty7TlQMikr49yegRaY=; b=EfRy2QHNadt4ElhGVjlU29xhD8Q7hF+AUX9ZmPHjlo8wJwCdGqDNpFYj6vIkZnVxKX Xst/CEU67h6JFbHkVS2u/PZp44iKsUwj+PR9KojcS/2s0xBbhQb1UoS4Nd+w9dNZW2B0 7JQhzNXVUlBM6VKf7GMzFvMhsm3R3wCE+CEvI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JJ/x+B0RHQeZBRb/jxlOPsH0gty7TlQMikr49yegRaY=; b=AJPOLyQRE2iTTIF7Ttdwwlh21hhG9O/HEMU2H8/FjiAwa/CrI+ZpdyGLzKpeMjHEwn +k7ahDEC+aDWnwb4ef7pCxKEh/F+0Y/L8lJEj2e6+2dicIPrEeyE3uRlQ/rwNTum5BsC ecwMuj2XY5ihWfG57snJQ0t/3P5mkqNDQwTXlSgEV5mq43HCLcPR0AyBaOodS4KeMPAn 4zwQlv+riGx8XB54aXNCU1C3Da4dbDfq4RRlgKHU/8tbMgTRtWLS7XzZuRV9s6iMd5ML Bhkq3JTNRIdCqtuOhmzE3qAlaRgRyhqh2Jd4PhnnMy2rsyvMg4koRaO1ROQkp6uHMpGc WFeA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjqLpoFTXEsumiUcTm/RawgysNkyuaEJLL/eeBeIQTzTOPP/tnt dhQ4mAWneOCeUQ11niR5fl1hJu2NxHTzA8BQ9zUzplvCU6A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDBmQtuBDvLvUMu0RdHL+i1GVKvAlZX/PauFHwHX46d5pmpVS+EHigkuKLYrU+U+hmBzbdk20wGSr1Q+mF4vDs= X-Received: by 10.99.154.18 with SMTP id o18mr5306350pge.18.1506013756947; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.131.90 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:08:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Clean shutdown with CyberPower UPS To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:09:18 -0000 Hi, FreeBSD 11.1 with CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD connected via USB. Tried apcupsd, but it was not able to detect the UPS using the "usb" driver. NUT seems way too overengineered. Don't really want to deal with network services for such a simple task. On OpenBSD, I use sensorsd with a simple script to shut the system down. Is there anything similar on FreeBSD? Basically, I just need a way of getting the battery percentage and/or remaining runtime from a ugen HID device. -Max From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 17:16:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC33E130E9 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3060C1CAE for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from Debian-exim by mx.nsu.ru with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1dv55D-0004Ud-TI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:16:15 +0700 Received: from [84.237.50.47] (helo=regency.nsu.ru) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1dv55D-0004UJ-Ql; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:16:15 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v8LHM38i078610; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:22:03 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id v8LHLw10078531; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:21:58 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:21:58 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Adam Vande More Cc: Gerhard Schmidt , Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Bridging doesn't work on FreeBSD 11 Message-ID: <20170921172158.GA77525@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20170921140921.GA71093@regency.nsu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 3 X-KLMS-Message-Action: skipped X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, whitelist X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: not scanned, whitelist X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, whitelist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:16:19 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:01:42PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > I don't have a precise answer to your question, but certain network > > features had been broken in FreeBSD 11+, including bridging [1] and > > LAGG [2]. You might want to try 10.4 for the time being as there's > > currently low interest in fixing those regressions, unfortunately. > > It is disingenuous to imply things are broken when they are not. The > first link you sent isn't close to conclusive, and may have absolutely > nothing to do with a bridge per se. For [1], it /might/ have nothing to do with a bridge per se, but we'll have yet to see how that investigation will come out. > If things like bridge or lagg were actually broken in some non-edge > case, hard to replicate way then it would receive its due attention. For [2], it's a fairly known regression that was reported both on the lists and to me privately (basically, users asking WTF?); and all of those situations were observed during the pre-11.x -> 11.x transition. Sadly, regressions happen now and then; there's nothing wrong with drawing attention to them, even if it seems "disingenuous" to some of us. We all want FreeBSD to become better, no? Peace, ./danfe From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 21 19:36:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEBBE1D120 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from chukcha.pknet.net (chukcha.pknet.net [206.125.170.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4A46730F for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: by chukcha.pknet.net (Postfix, from userid 26) id 9235210C290; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.pknet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chukcha.pknet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6910C285; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:23:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 165.237.199.131 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by mail.pknet.net with HTTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:23:11 -0600 Message-ID: <805dea20e407ae5fc338f593db783c7e.squirrel@mail.pknet.net> In-Reply-To: References: <285fc7dd-4aa4-dfa9-65a4-37f44186d515@pinyon.org> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:23:11 -0600 Subject: Re: sysutils/py-salt doesn't work with python3 | py36-salt fails to install From: "Peter" To: "Ben Woods" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Sep 21 13:23:12 2017 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9986 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 59c411a0529122029698709 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:36:44 -0000 > On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 at 3:46 am, Peter wrote: > >> On 09/07/17 16:00, Russell L. Carter wrote: >> > On 09/07/17 11:00, Peter wrote: >> >> All the python36 modules / python36 builds, and installs fine, but >> the >> >> port fails to install; >> > >> > >> https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/installation/index.html#dependencies >> > >> > >> > Python 2.6 >= 2.6 <3.0 >> > >> > I am not entirely certain, but I think my whole tree of >> > python27 packages is only required by py-salt these >> > days. >> > >> > HTH, >> > Russell >> > >> > >> True, did not look at the installation instructions for 2017.7..., only >> the release notes which made it seem like python3 should work; >> https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/releases/2017.7.0.html#python-3 >> and the latest commit comment in ports: >> http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/py-salt >> >> ]Peter[ > > > I suspect the installation instructions are out of date / have not been > updated since 2017.7.0 which added python 3 support according to the > release notes. > > Not sure why the install is failing, but I will try to have a look. > > Regards, > Ben > >> -- > > -- > From: Benjamin Woods > woodsb02@gmail.com Finally got back to this, the non educated fix was to remove the last two lines of pkg-plist: original was: minion:#cat bu @sample %%ETCDIR%%/master.sample @sample %%ETCDIR%%/minion.sample %%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/salt/_syspaths.py ##%%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/salt/_syspaths.pyc ##%%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/salt/_syspaths.pyo minion:# minion:#cat pkg-plist @sample %%ETCDIR%%/master.sample @sample %%ETCDIR%%/minion.sample %%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/salt/_syspaths.py minion:# Haven't been able to figure out why exactly its failing, but master and minion aren't complaining of anything. Will need to file a pr if I can find a real solution. ]Peter[ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 22 07:18:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F335E1B88F for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jornane@fyrkat.no) Received: from epost.ufisa.uninett.no (epost.ufisa.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:2::152:65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE894816E9 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jornane@fyrkat.no) Received: from feniks.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:700:1:111:8102:3e3d:f7f0:14df]) by epost.ufisa.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17880D20302; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:18:35 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: freebsd@jornane.me Subject: Using IP aliases on a VLAN interface Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:18:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:18:46 -0000 I'm trying to set up aliases on a VLAN interface. My rc.conf looks like this: # /etc/rc.conf vlans_igb0="vlan42" create_args_vlan42="vlan 42" ifconfig_igb0="up" ifconfig_vlan42="inet6 2001:db8::42 prefixlen 64 mtu 1500" ifconfig_vlan42_aliases="\ inet6 fd00::dead:beef prefixlen 64 \ inet6 2001:db8::babe:cafe prefixlen 128 \ " However, after a reboot, a vlan42 interface shows up with only 2001:db8::42 as IP address. The aliases do not show up, and any services I've explicitly configured to listen on them fail to start. After boot, I can run ipconfig to add the same aliases by hand, and then everything works fine. But I'd prefer a solution that works at boot. -- Jørn Åne From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 22 10:29:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B7CE22D07 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=ehit=ax=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.codepro.be", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21ADE64F1E for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=ehit=ax=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from [192.168.39.177] (LPuteaux-656-1-74-163.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.12.80.163]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0BF724F585; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:29:25 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sigsegv.be; s=mail; t=1506076165; bh=2sJw/6woq/BxM0Z1LRcqUF6Fc+EKskr0vHZqG+4cyHA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=N1RC1jJ1OzLobnCk4y6KqLw880kumGBIDNPde8yIeJIZUX/8lQRywo9AeC/b1etvG Dg9GDg8RT516bOvGNnol29rQd3GlvEnLsIgq06H4iycKHS1eOtIpPVCFZb2C0XaAzw 6/tfJdzRC8lshxrIx8iXQGPXKUi5JHGU8dHO6SBk= From: "Kristof Provost" To: "Gerhard Schmidt" Cc: "Freebsd Questions" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Bridging doesn't work on FreeBSD 11 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:29:24 +0200 Message-ID: <375F05B1-D954-40EC-842D-534184259ED0@sigsegv.be> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6091) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:29:27 -0000 On 21 Sep 2017, at 8:01, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > I'm doing some packetfiltering between two network segments. I've a > running bridge on FreeBSD 8.2 > Are you running a filtering bridge? What firewall are you using? What are its rules? > The new bridge starting up does bridge the traffic but the bridge > server > can't communicate. > Are you not receiving packets on bridge0, or are they not getting passed through the bridge? What does tcpdump show on bridge0/em0/em1? Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 22 17:14:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3B2E05B97 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40461743BA for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8MHEFQ2048909 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v8MHEDwY048891; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon cc: Ian Smith , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt In-Reply-To: <20170916185812.0ccc21a1.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20170916020243.B81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170915200315.289b3fdf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917011446.F81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170916185812.0ccc21a1.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:15 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:14:21 -0000 On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:21:51 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: >> Are you sure there's no way to use sc(4) with X on 10.3? > > The reason why I switched to vt was exactly that reason: with sc > in place, X wouldn't start anymore. This happened at some point > during the "updating trail" of 10.1 -> 10.3 with ports updated > (via pkg). Something that worked for months suddenly stopped > working, which always is a terrible experience. When I switched > to vt in the loader, X worked again as it did before. I'm fairly sure that is due to KMS video. vt(4) supports it, sc(4) was out decades before anyone thought of it. >From another channel, I've been told that persistently setting the gop command in the loader is either not implemented or must be done in one of the Forth loader files. I tried some things with no success yet, and have inquiries to dteske@. >> We saw lots >> about getting proper console switching going (again) using vt and X on >> the stable@ list on earlier 10.x, but I can't recall any details, since >> sc still works fine on my 9.3 (amd64) system, where vt(4) first became >> available, including proper suspend/resume support from ttyvN or from X. > > That is a different problem. Until you start X, sc works perfectly > fine. Even in a setting where "sc + startx" is working, shutting > down the X session or switching using e. g. Ctrl+Alt+F1 leaves you > with a console that works, but without visible text ("blind console"). > With vt, at least this problem is gone, even though the console now > is visible only with the tiniest letters. I just tested this on a Haswell notebook with 11-stable. The mode setting is either lost after leaving X, or it just keeps the resolution chosen in X. However, vidfont and vidcontrol work to select a larger font. vidfont -p to print available font names. Then vidcontrol -f vgarom-16x32 to choose one of them. This can be set in /etc/rc.conf with allscreens_flags="-f vgarom-16x13" It does not take effect until late in the startup, so the boot messages are in the default or gop-set mode. I'm not sure where this should be documented in the Handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 22 18:35:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EA6E085AD for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3D18765DD for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v8MIYkt8050770; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 04:34:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 04:34:46 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warren Block cc: Polytropon , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170923033444.Q35468@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20170916020243.B81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170915200315.289b3fdf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917011446.F81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170916185812.0ccc21a1.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:35:09 -0000 On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:13 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:21:51 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > > Are you sure there's no way to use sc(4) with X on 10.3? > > > > The reason why I switched to vt was exactly that reason: with sc > > in place, X wouldn't start anymore. This happened at some point > > during the "updating trail" of 10.1 -> 10.3 with ports updated > > (via pkg). Something that worked for months suddenly stopped > > working, which always is a terrible experience. When I switched > > to vt in the loader, X worked again as it did before. > > I'm fairly sure that is due to KMS video. vt(4) supports it, sc(4) was out > decades before anyone thought of it. > > > From another channel, I've been told that persistently setting the gop > command in the loader is either not implemented or must be done in one of the > Forth loader files. I tried some things with no success yet, and have > inquiries to dteske@. Have you tried on an i386 system? My explore indicated that gop(0) only exists in /usr/src/sys/boot/efi/loader/arch/amd64/framebuffer.c on 10.3, 11.1 and head. Apparently nothing similar for the i386 loader. Polytropon's system also is BIOS|ACPI not EFI, though it wasn't clear to me that this code position in hierarchy necessarily implies EFI-booting? > > > We saw lots > > > about getting proper console switching going (again) using vt and X on > > > the stable@ list on earlier 10.x, but I can't recall any details, since > > > sc still works fine on my 9.3 (amd64) system, where vt(4) first became > > > available, including proper suspend/resume support from ttyvN or from X. Again, that's an older system; core2duo, no EFI, no KMS (GM4500 graphics as I recall). So there's a complicated web of older systems being left behind fairly unceremoniously (with nobody to blame :) at an increasing rate .. or so it looks to we old farts who value stability over novelty. > > That is a different problem. Until you start X, sc works perfectly > > fine. Even in a setting where "sc + startx" is working, shutting > > down the X session or switching using e. g. Ctrl+Alt+F1 leaves you > > with a console that works, but without visible text ("blind console"). > > With vt, at least this problem is gone, even though the console now > > is visible only with the tiniest letters. > > I just tested this on a Haswell notebook with 11-stable. The mode setting is > either lost after leaving X, or it just keeps the resolution chosen in X. > > > However, vidfont and vidcontrol work to select a larger font. > > vidfont -p > > to print available font names. Then > > vidcontrol -f vgarom-16x32 > > to choose one of them. This can be set in /etc/rc.conf with > > allscreens_flags="-f vgarom-16x13" > > It does not take effect until late in the startup, so the boot messages are > in the default or gop-set mode. Does 'uga' command also in mentioned MFC work at your loader prompt? > I'm not sure where this should be documented in the Handbook. Seems it would by now need distinguishing between architectures, classes of graphics and perhaps whether and where EFI boot or support is needed? Just thought bubbles .. FWIW. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 22 19:18:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F13E09C30 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5751A777CC for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8MJIrdJ083317 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:18:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v8MJIrO7083314; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:18:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:18:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Ian Smith cc: Polytropon , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt In-Reply-To: <20170923033444.Q35468@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20170916020243.B81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170915200315.289b3fdf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917011446.F81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170916185812.0ccc21a1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170923033444.Q35468@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:18:53 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:18:58 -0000 On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:13 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:21:51 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > > > Are you sure there's no way to use sc(4) with X on 10.3? > > > > > > The reason why I switched to vt was exactly that reason: with sc > > > in place, X wouldn't start anymore. This happened at some point > > > during the "updating trail" of 10.1 -> 10.3 with ports updated > > > (via pkg). Something that worked for months suddenly stopped > > > working, which always is a terrible experience. When I switched > > > to vt in the loader, X worked again as it did before. > > > > I'm fairly sure that is due to KMS video. vt(4) supports it, sc(4) was out > > decades before anyone thought of it. > > > > > From another channel, I've been told that persistently setting the gop > > command in the loader is either not implemented or must be done in one of the > > Forth loader files. I tried some things with no success yet, and have > > inquiries to dteske@. > > Have you tried on an i386 system? My explore indicated that gop(0) only > exists in /usr/src/sys/boot/efi/loader/arch/amd64/framebuffer.c on 10.3, > 11.1 and head. Apparently nothing similar for the i386 loader. > > Polytropon's system also is BIOS|ACPI not EFI, though it wasn't clear to > me that this code position in hierarchy necessarily implies EFI-booting? I don't know. 32-bit i386 had a long, distinguished run, but it's a dying breed, and I have not spent any time on it in quite a while. > > > > We saw lots > > > > about getting proper console switching going (again) using vt and X on > > > > the stable@ list on earlier 10.x, but I can't recall any details, since > > > > sc still works fine on my 9.3 (amd64) system, where vt(4) first became > > > > available, including proper suspend/resume support from ttyvN or from X. > > Again, that's an older system; core2duo, no EFI, no KMS (GM4500 graphics > as I recall). So there's a complicated web of older systems being left > behind fairly unceremoniously (with nobody to blame :) at an increasing > rate .. or so it looks to we old farts who value stability over novelty. There's stability. There is also being left behind by an increasingly-distant herd and finding yourself surrounded by metaphorical wolves and alligators. Or literal ones. > > > That is a different problem. Until you start X, sc works perfectly > > > fine. Even in a setting where "sc + startx" is working, shutting > > > down the X session or switching using e. g. Ctrl+Alt+F1 leaves you > > > with a console that works, but without visible text ("blind console"). > > > With vt, at least this problem is gone, even though the console now > > > is visible only with the tiniest letters. > > > > I just tested this on a Haswell notebook with 11-stable. The mode setting is > > either lost after leaving X, or it just keeps the resolution chosen in X. > > > > > > However, vidfont and vidcontrol work to select a larger font. > > > > vidfont -p > > > > to print available font names. Then > > > > vidcontrol -f vgarom-16x32 > > > > to choose one of them. This can be set in /etc/rc.conf with > > > > allscreens_flags="-f vgarom-16x13" > > > > It does not take effect until late in the startup, so the boot messages are > > in the default or gop-set mode. > > Does 'uga' command also in mentioned MFC work at your loader prompt? It says: uga: UGA Protocol not present (error=14) > > I'm not sure where this should be documented in the Handbook. > > Seems it would by now need distinguishing between architectures, classes > of graphics and perhaps whether and where EFI boot or support is needed? Maybe a separate article, then. I'm not sure whether any of this applies to newer architectures like ARM. 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Bakeyev" Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:44:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: C4leWS9l_Sw8HgudzvqZqjgXPCg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of SAMBA on FreeBSD To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:44:59 -0000 Hi all! Sorry I didn't reply to this thread before, there are too many public channels where Samba and FreeBSD are both discussed, so it's almost impossible to follow all of them. If you want to get the definite answer - please add me to the CC list. Problems with the DC provisioning are around for quite a while, due to various configurations as well as because both samba and FreeBSD are moving targets and code is changing rapidly in both upstreams. The particular raised problem is created by the "fix" in the https://github.com/samba-team/samba/commit/738797d8ad6908de457786cc948dcde151e2b9e1, which, possibly, made things work better with the MacOSX, but entirely broke DC provisioning in Samba 4.6 on FreeBSD. I'm working on the appropriate fix for this problem, which would allow having both DC provisioning and Time Machine working properly on FreeBSD, but as such fix, possibly, will affect the way how particular extended attributes are stored on a file system, I feel it's not safe to bring such changes into 4.6 branch and targeting just released 4.7 for it. There is another long standing issue with the DC provisioning onto ZFS-only installations, where you had to create special volume with the UFS to get things work properly. This issue was fixed by John Hixon from the iXsystems Inc. in the custom version of Samba on the FreeNAS/TrueNAS and from the kind permission of the iXsystems this work will be ported into the FreeBSD ports. With best regards, Timur Bakeyev, sponsored by iXsystems Inc. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 09/17/17 23:18, Adam Vande More wrote: > > What? It doesn't seem like you have a good enough understanding to make a >> claim like that. It is quite clear that bug is relavant only to jailed >> instances of samba, and VFS related perms. Your current was already >> explained to you once, and you've been reminded of it. >> > > Sorry to step in like this, but I find the original question quite > interesting. > Since we are using jailed Samba 4.4 instances, I'd be very worried if this > setup would lose support in the future. > > Is there any plan to allow Samba to properly work in a jail? > > bye & Thanks > av. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 23 10:43:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0661BE01F29 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6A736F16F for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) X-Originating-IP: 209.85.192.171 Received: from mail-pf0-f171.google.com (mail-pf0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) (Authenticated sender: moi@erwan.legrand.name) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 490C541C07D for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:43:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pf0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n24so1682412pfk.5 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 03:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUipiujjyNOZs6ybYt1upNdPZSNRYJfLPXkesFFxD9C48KWDZoIn ljb6y/iCbeSeznsWnCfHxjgAEzHS2kJoY0QNZrs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDwWcjfrsrnZ+TFU1/4RRwkOcvNaMnXr0CyPOskxHMFvERivpFlxlI4ayQVk4ta7JOAxvsQqOq/koA0WfiMFnQ= X-Received: by 10.99.109.134 with SMTP id i128mr1866757pgc.345.1506163407445; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 03:43:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.163.3 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Erwan Legrand Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:43:26 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: 11.1-RELEASE kernel panics while importing ZFS pool To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:43:32 -0000 Hi, I have made an attempt at upgrading from FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE to 11.1-RELEASE. Unfortunately, the 11.1-RELEASE kernel panics with the following error: panic: Solaris(panic): blkptr at 0xfffffe00033e5f80 has invalid CHECKSUM 0 The backtrace is as follows: kbd_backtrace+0x67 vpanic+0x186 panic+0x43 vcmn_err+0xc2 zfs_panic_recover+0x5a zfs_blkptr_verify+0x8b zio_read+0x2c spa_load_verify_cb+0x14a traverse_visitbp+0x1f8 traverse_visitbp+0x400 traverse_visitbp+0x400 traverse_visitbp+0x400 traverse_visitbp+0x400 traverse_dnode+0xc7 traverse_visitbp+0x753 traverse_impl+0x22b traverse_pool+0x16d spa_load+0x1bce The root file system is part of this ZFS pool, which means I can't even boot my system. Attempting to import the pool from the shell prompt after booting from 11.1-RELEASE installation media also results in a kernel panic. I have searched bugs.freebsd.org, but none of the currently registered issues appear to match. (Or so it seems to me.) The 11.0-RELEASE kernel boots from this ZFS pool without trouble. Thus, I have reverted to 11.0 for now. Obviously, I'd like to upgrade at some point. Any suggestion is welcome. Thanks, Erwan Legrand From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 23 13:24:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBE6E05551 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C67F473267 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:24:30 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8F863CC42; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:24:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8NDOS5B001980; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:24:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:24:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Cc: Ian Smith , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt Message-Id: <20170923152428.fa178258.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20170916020243.B81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170915200315.289b3fdf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917011446.F81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170916185812.0ccc21a1.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 119E2683539 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1482 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:24:39 -0000 On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:13 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:21:51 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > >> Are you sure there's no way to use sc(4) with X on 10.3? > > > > The reason why I switched to vt was exactly that reason: with sc > > in place, X wouldn't start anymore. This happened at some point > > during the "updating trail" of 10.1 -> 10.3 with ports updated > > (via pkg). Something that worked for months suddenly stopped > > working, which always is a terrible experience. When I switched > > to vt in the loader, X worked again as it did before. > > I'm fairly sure that is due to KMS video. vt(4) supports it, sc(4) was > out decades before anyone thought of it. Yes, but in this case X "triggered the error", as it started depending on KMS and wouldn't start without it (I definitely had to add i915kms_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf). So basically we're in the state of "sc and X don't work together anymore". For pure text-mode systems (i. e., servers with a directly connected console), there's no problem continuing to use sc. > From another channel, I've been told that persistently setting the gop > command in the loader is either not implemented or must be done in one > of the Forth loader files. I tried some things with no success yet, and > have inquiries to dteske@. It would be great to have at least an explanation that stays valid, in which users can read where and how to set up things. If this involved manual additions to loader files - no problem. > >> We saw lots > >> about getting proper console switching going (again) using vt and X on > >> the stable@ list on earlier 10.x, but I can't recall any details, since > >> sc still works fine on my 9.3 (amd64) system, where vt(4) first became > >> available, including proper suspend/resume support from ttyvN or from X. > > > > That is a different problem. Until you start X, sc works perfectly > > fine. Even in a setting where "sc + startx" is working, shutting > > down the X session or switching using e. g. Ctrl+Alt+F1 leaves you > > with a console that works, but without visible text ("blind console"). > > With vt, at least this problem is gone, even though the console now > > is visible only with the tiniest letters. > > I just tested this on a Haswell notebook with 11-stable. The mode > setting is either lost after leaving X, or it just keeps the resolution > chosen in X. Correct - this matches my observations. In any case, 80x25 has been destroyed until reboot. > However, vidfont and vidcontrol work to select a larger font. > > vidfont -p > > to print available font names. Then > > vidcontrol -f vgarom-16x32 > > to choose one of them. This can be set in /etc/rc.conf with > > allscreens_flags="-f vgarom-16x13" > > It does not take effect until late in the startup, so the boot messages > are in the default or gop-set mode. So basically, it goes from 80x25 text to 80x25 graphics to 78x34 graphics and finally to something that matches 80x25... I hope. :-) I will test this soon. I think one of the problems is that 10.3 does not contain as many fonts as 11 does. Wel... what kind of problems have we built upon us... now we need to manually download and test fonts in order to get 80x25, and if we attach a different screen, things break again... ;-) > I'm not sure where this should be documented in the Handbook. I'd say it could warrant the creation of a new chapter, just like X has its own chapter. Text mode is now "little X", so maybe a name like "Text mode operations" or "Console operations" could be added. But on the other hand - as X is causing the problems, it could just be a sub-part of the X chapter, especially where it mentions that you need KMS, and _this_ is the point where the user notices that the classic console mode is gone. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 23 14:14:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A45DE06450 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlite@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic312-20.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic312-20.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.128.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59FB474B72 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlite@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: kgQaOpgVM1nMaGLKb1bMmTHrLUSBiqbsaq95lO32gJdcVx5URB.TdxQEdx8bRuf VFxbNx3vnQ68nBr4SIdi_hL4711smVSecWqS9ekqEjdm2DaJvAWwWBuYc3SeQ0uBYhuMsyzY6XCQ uZEF1RkQOVnxFCJdQlxjWashbhjqlXD62BknmR9MLJ1kvkMV0ptymha5LxQFvz8wUqJQTy1ciWtf RoKU_..kIEwlV0OQeecXredj9vJ.rnG6eVruaz.FYGcOAV0JtrOqtitnQ8bVKfOslV7qQRyD5EJw pnY6RQkswEKc62Wjn189z3veqnjgDUaGOYHpU3TKz3jcKIM10i9Rotn0.ZUHinB1waqrFn3yke0m nl9eLSRTvX9g0HYIu54B7WT0h_W2U4dkyRtST7oPO1QyL3A6T08JhCBOfFFhfi650SNbJgvj0BEQ Nsf1RcyqIGeTjM_2_nz2KXValeaVM2myoyhUTCKHJWisTOpY02O0ZWaDf3ZyKPcdi42mLn0nJXSc SPnVkow60RVDBvCfY.OMyGHQtbzdxtx8u5xLKLuE6BwYbEtU- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:14:30 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp226.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2017 07:14:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 76127.19899.bm@smtp226.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: kgQaOpgVM1nMaGLKb1bMmTHrLUSBiqbsaq95lO32gJdcVx5 URB.TdxQEdx8bRufVFxbNx3vnQ68nBr4SIdi_hL4711smVSecWqS9ekqEjdm 2DaJvAWwWBuYc3SeQ0uBYhuMsyzY6XCQuZEF1RkQOVnxFCJdQlxjWashbhjq lXD62BknmR9MLJ1kvkMV0ptymha5LxQFvz8wUqJQTy1ciWtfRoKU_..kIEwl V0OQeecXredj9vJ.rnG6eVruaz.FYGcOAV0JtrOqtitnQ8bVKfOslV7qQRyD 5EJwpnY6RQkswEKc62Wjn189z3veqnjgDUaGOYHpU3TKz3jcKIM10i9Rotn0 .ZUHinB1waqrFn3yke0mnl9eLSRTvX9g0HYIu54B7WT0h_W2U4dkyRtST7oP O1QyL3A6T08JhCBOfFFhfi650SNbJgvj0BEQNsf1RcyqIGeTjM_2_nz2KXVa leaVM2myoyhUTCKHJWisTOpY02O0ZWaDf3ZyKPcdi42mLn0nJXScSPnVkow6 0RVDBvCfY.OMyGHQtbzdxtx8u5xLKLuE6BwYbEtU- X-Yahoo-SMTP: C2b9fHiswBB3UdwM4tOKmyqAy4EW4h41DDQa9ljGLxvSC3QhRHUsiSPpeYxQi5337oCwTsY- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.3.3.2163) Message-ID: <20170923071432.6316115.79872.468@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 17:14:32 +1000 Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt From: Simon Maurice In-Reply-To: References: <20170916020243.B81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170915200315.289b3fdf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170917011446.F81507@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170916185812.0ccc21a1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170923033444.Q35468@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: Warren Block , Ian Smith Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:14:37 -0000 =C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0 From: Warren Block Sent: Saturday, 23 September 2017 05:19=E2=80=8E To: Ian Smith Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith; Polytropon; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:14:13 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:21:51 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > > > Are you sure there's no way to use sc(4) with X on 10.3? > > > > > > The reason why I switched to vt was exactly that reason: with sc > > > in place, X wouldn't start anymore. This happened at some point > > > during the "updating trail" of 10.1 -> 10.3 with ports updated > > > (via pkg). Something that worked for months suddenly stopped > > > working, which always is a terrible experience. When I switched > > > to vt in the loader, X worked again as it did before. > > > > I'm fairly sure that is due to KMS video. vt(4) supports it, sc(4) was = out > > decades before anyone thought of it. > > > > > From another channel, I've been told that persistently setting the gop > > command in the loader is either not implemented or must be done in one = of the > > Forth loader files. I tried some things with no success yet, and have > > inquiries to dteske@. > > Have you tried on an i386 system? My explore indicated that gop(0) only > exists in /usr/src/sys/boot/efi/loader/arch/amd64/framebuffer.c on 10.3, > 11.1 and head. Apparently nothing similar for the i386 loader. > > Polytropon's system also is BIOS|ACPI not EFI, though it wasn't clear to > me that this code position in hierarchy necessarily implies EFI-booting? I don't know. 32-bit i386 had a long, distinguished run, but it's a=20 dying breed, and I have not spent any time on it in quite a while. > > > > We saw lots > > > > about getting proper console switching going (again) using vt and X= on > > > > the stable@ list on earlier 10.x, but I can't recall any details, s= ince > > > > sc still works fine on my 9.3 (amd64) system, where vt(4) first bec= ame > > > > available, including proper suspend/resume support from ttyvN or fr= om X. > > Again, that's an older system; core2duo, no EFI, no KMS (GM4500 graphics > as I recall). So there's a complicated web of older systems being left > behind fairly unceremoniously (with nobody to blame :) at an increasing > rate .. or so it looks to we old farts who value stability over novelty. There's stability. There is also being left behind by an=20 increasingly-distant herd and finding yourself surrounded by=20 metaphorical wolves and alligators. Or literal ones. > > > That is a different problem. Until you start X, sc works perfectly > > > fine. Even in a setting where "sc + startx" is working, shutting > > > down the X session or switching using e. g. Ctrl+Alt+F1 leaves you > > > with a console that works, but without visible text ("blind console"). > > > With vt, at least this problem is gone, even though the console now > > > is visible only with the tiniest letters. > > > > I just tested this on a Haswell notebook with 11-stable. The mode setti= ng is > > either lost after leaving X, or it just keeps the resolution chosen in = X. > > > > > > However, vidfont and vidcontrol work to select a larger font. > > > > vidfont -p > > > > to print available font names. Then > > > > vidcontrol -f vgarom-16x32 > > > > to choose one of them. This can be set in /etc/rc.conf with > > > > allscreens_flags=3D"-f vgarom-16x13" > > > > It does not take effect until late in the startup, so the boot messages= are > > in the default or gop-set mode. > > Does 'uga' command also in mentioned MFC work at your loader prompt? It says: uga: UGA Protocol not present (error=3D14) > > I'm not sure where this should be documented in the Handbook. > > Seems it would by now need distinguishing between architectures, classes > of graphics and perhaps whether and where EFI boot or support is needed? Maybe a separate article, then. I'm not sure whether any of this=20 applies to newer architectures like ARM. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" . From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 23 17:59:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF0BE0A8E0 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 17:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06A2A7E4EC for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 17:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id 21so6885667iof.6 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:59:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7GdswyiZxVhd292XmfU27MJ6xbpbwsVyL6s0hdQl5YM=; b=NceM1SprEXi1pW0IgWWk3FyWvnRkv6lY8ohVzwwi7dQZzLtgUlUOksRq4PZ2mqffFI EyeHj4nquvdA6N+nZMlZBnMPh0ShBKaT+XvrYSe3WidpvZq8d0v30t9s2oG/1eXlkc4D So3MCgy2dJfexllqHMnTQHbPiCOBT1S1dmzPT/BVgd+KXwwoRCr5QjKC4nU+UMOZxPEJ 4U3VE9N5pIj6WGy5C0Zs3Ojcl9+UoFZrRW83MKpTEo6WiLakduQkQ6DPFCwoC66QBzaE 7D+qjdpsK1TSjm8YMubevvU+4FfATh5GmEAQ3tMU6w1EFF0TH+Ow5fi+Ccou6vkUwNG0 aqtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7GdswyiZxVhd292XmfU27MJ6xbpbwsVyL6s0hdQl5YM=; b=qFh1T9EQNy6q2ennXg7QarfdPUOXKtsR3pWwQ/eTESOVfWqaTTTwscpDpEH+z6oR+D ye4BEcu9acS7tayUIs0pq6LWwqUJHwW+ufoMS4iCiTUwRMseQVGMYf75eoB32atOQy68 5PUAZUoJrz6YXMYuqFmBqeQYun0pO2zl4I3AcWqr+qUcQfEulgVd7C6/u9L3qvehQGgt UfL8NC4G3XQe/mX5yjqXVdb5cwhIQEDTVgFNb3vtyAPQGtwCmruiXj+QCchNT+M2aJzq EJawc2mQ037EOMUsOst+ldLIkFf0zJcfJrFU4Gayg/jP8YyojfryxgRVt/aa/kvYxmFD hHlg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUg8sr3g5pz5V71vvSGIBo3h48LTLynz3oQwXLmYe9kmJw00lyf4 LYeRYSZ0dnLNumc9NVjBQ+HTGcT6qzC9YA7plh0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QACSgS4Br7o0s9+z5UxFHY9wuwb33xXxx/ewz1TeGtG4VztyrHvbYc+LErddhMgbnLWLYh/26w4E5RoOuKxJI4= X-Received: by 10.107.183.213 with SMTP id h204mr4070307iof.61.1506189579093; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:59:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.145.141 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:59:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Vande More Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11.1-RELEASE kernel panics while importing ZFS pool To: Erwan Legrand Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 17:59:40 -0000 On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 5:43 AM, Erwan Legrand wrote: > Hi, > > I have made an attempt at upgrading from FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE to > 11.1-RELEASE. Unfortunately, the 11.1-RELEASE kernel panics with the > following error: > > panic: Solaris(panic): blkptr at 0xfffffe00033e5f80 has invalid CHECKSUM 0 > > The backtrace is as follows: > > kbd_backtrace+0x67 > vpanic+0x186 > panic+0x43 > vcmn_err+0xc2 > zfs_panic_recover+0x5a > zfs_blkptr_verify+0x8b > zio_read+0x2c > spa_load_verify_cb+0x14a > traverse_visitbp+0x1f8 > traverse_visitbp+0x400 > traverse_visitbp+0x400 > traverse_visitbp+0x400 > traverse_visitbp+0x400 > traverse_dnode+0xc7 > traverse_visitbp+0x753 > traverse_impl+0x22b > traverse_pool+0x16d > spa_load+0x1bce > > The root file system is part of this ZFS pool, which means I can't > even boot my system. Attempting to import the pool from the shell > prompt after booting from 11.1-RELEASE installation media also results > in a kernel panic. > > I have searched bugs.freebsd.org, but none of the currently registered > issues appear to match. (Or so it seems to me.) > > The 11.0-RELEASE kernel boots from this ZFS pool without trouble. > Thus, I have reverted to 11.0 for now. > > Obviously, I'd like to upgrade at some point. > > Any suggestion is welcome. > Did you try a scrub on 11.0 first? -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 23 18:53:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1365DE0CF6C for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 18:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from hz.citrin.ru (hz.citrin.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d16:10c3::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFBA17FECA for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 18:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from x220.lan (unknown [IPv6:2601:18a:c680:9888:c155:b835:ab62:c71a]) by hz.citrin.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C81E72C177E for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 18:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Using IP aliases on a VLAN interface To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Anton Yuzhaninov Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:53:50 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=citrin.ru; s=s0; t=1506192832; bh=EHo7kmNuP/fafh8b+fewi2wTDcflDNQVl/bN+B8Iccw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zJ6KrdDur1FZ/FNGnUM7t4Pcr70WvHTR8JD3k3j6VNQ5OUo1xl1u1HwRVjuW+qhaAmQ1Frz0P0YseiiOB2jwfJioy9CeZJoz4wRJDJuATZyOSjZkXub29WGI3QBYAUlj0+V6e98s/5yamPvSS7U1C3i6t8RWtCE6tjdMFnXAXXk= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 18:53:55 -0000 On 09/22/17 03:18, freebsd@jornane.me wrote: > ifconfig_vlan42="inet6 2001:db8::42 prefixlen 64 mtu 1500" > ifconfig_vlan42_aliases="\ > inet6 fd00::dead:beef prefixlen 64 \ > inet6 2001:db8::babe:cafe prefixlen 128 \ > " You can write: ifconfig_vlan42_alias0="inet6 fd00::dead:beef prefixlen 64" ifconfig_vlan42_alias1="inet6 2001:db8::babe:cafe prefixlen 128" instead.