From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Sep 3 02:03:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360FDE11AC2; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 02:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmd@freebsd.org) Received: from www.poelloepaeae.de (v22017034403546374.happysrv.de [188.68.38.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 002AF7D079; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 02:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmd@freebsd.org) Received: from manray.ogolem.org (c-73-195-214-55.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [73.195.214.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.poelloepaeae.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1649818811B; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 04:03:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 22:02:57 -0400 From: Johannes M Dieterich To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: [RFC] future of drm1 in base Message-ID: <20170902220257.6667280e@manray.ogolem.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2017 02:03:53 -0000 Dear current/x11, please CC me on responses. I am writing you on behalf of the FreeBSDDesktop team concerning the future of drm1 in base. drm1 in base supports the following GPUs: * 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3+ (tdfx) * ATI Rage 128 (r128) * ATI Rage Pro (mach64) * Matrox G200/G400 (mga) * Savage3D/MX/IX, Savage4, SuperSavage, Twister, ProSavage[DDR] (savage) * SIS 300/630/540 and XGI V3XE/V5/V8 (sis) * VIA Unichrome / Pro (via) Since their original introduction up to 2010 these drivers have mostly been maintained as part of larger cleanups. The newest hardware drm1 supports dates from 2004, if I am not mistaken, and most of the hardware is AGP-based. With the introduction of graphics/drm-next-kmod which brings its own drm.ko following the Linux notation, we are facing collisions between these old drivers' drm.ko and the newer one. We would like to hear if anybody still runs CURRENT on machines housing the above GPUs and relies on drm1. If there are still a significant number of people running CURRENT on this hardware in production, we would be willing to make a graphics/drm-legacy-kmod port. Thanks, the FreeBSDDesktop team