From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Sun Dec 23 01:40:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B70013438F6; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 01:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from um-kip6-missouri-out.um.umsystem.edu (um-kip6-missouri-out.um.umsystem.edu [209.106.229.223]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "um-tip1.um.umsystem.edu", Issuer "InCommon RSA Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7302F83425; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 01:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2GDAADa5h5c/x840cZiFgMBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEHAQEBAQEBgWWCBGaBAicKg3SDSpBKgWAtg0WWGgELASUHAoQ+AheCWCI?= =?us-ascii?q?4EgEDAQECAQECAgJpHAyCeE0LMywqAg0lPwEFIxFFEAIBCBgCAiYCAgIwFRACB?= =?us-ascii?q?AEMAQcBARWDCQGCAQ+mF4Evg3FRP4NMAQeBTIELizQXgX+BOIJrgwUOCwGBYhe?= =?us-ascii?q?CcYJXAotFlgYJAocQilEegi2POYlZhQGHe4MtAgICAgkCFIFdIoFWchOCcwEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?TEJhX+FFIU/QTGBKIwrAYEeAQE?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2GDAADa5h5c/x840cZiFgMBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEHAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BgWWCBGaBAicKg3SDSpBKgWAtg0WWGgELASUHAoQ+AheCWCI4EgEDAQECAQECA?= =?us-ascii?q?gJpHAyCeE0LMywqAg0lPwEFIxFFEAIBCBgCAiYCAgIwFRACBAEMAQcBARWDCQG?= =?us-ascii?q?CAQ+mF4Evg3FRP4NMAQeBTIELizQXgX+BOIJrgwUOCwGBYheCcYJXAotFlgYJA?= =?us-ascii?q?ocQilEegi2POYlZhQGHe4MtAgICAgkCFIFdIoFWchOCcwEBATEJhX+FFIU/QTG?= =?us-ascii?q?BKIwrAYEeAQE?= Received: from ex2-t21.um.umsystem.edu ([198.209.56.31]) by um-kip6-exch-relay.um.umsystem.edu with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2018 19:39:43 -0600 Received: from EX2-N14.um.umsystem.edu (198.209.56.22) by EX2-T21.um.umsystem.edu (198.209.56.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1591.10; Sat, 22 Dec 2018 19:39:42 -0600 Received: from EX2-N14.um.umsystem.edu ([198.209.56.22]) by EX2-N14.um.umsystem.edu ([198.209.56.22]) with mapi id 15.01.1591.008; Sat, 22 Dec 2018 19:39:42 -0600 From: "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" To: "Julian H. Stacey" , Stefan Esser CC: Ed Maste , Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD Current , "Rodney W. Grimes" , "ctm-users@freebsd.org" , Warner Losh Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? Thread-Topic: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? 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