From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Sep 9 00:53:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEC1106DFE7 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 00:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason.lindsey.1966@icloud.com) Received: from st14p31im-asmtp003.me.com (st14p31im-asmtp003.me.com [17.163.246.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8891C7E8FC for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 00:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason.lindsey.1966@icloud.com) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.st14p31im-asmtp003.me.com by st14p31im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.2.20180531 64bit (built May 31 2018)) id <0PER00100GVKNZ00@st14p31im-asmtp003.me.com> for freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:53:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by st14p31im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.2.20180531 64bit (built May 31 2018)) with ESMTPSA id <0PER00NGKH0SBZ00@st14p31im-asmtp003.me.com> for freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:53:18 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1809080255 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2018-09-08_14:,, signatures=0 From: Jason Lindsey Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Which platform should I download for FreeBSD? Message-id: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 16:53:16 -0700 To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 00:53:25 -0000 I hope you help me,=20 I own a iMac 64, and do not know if I should download amd64 or arm64 = platforms to support FreeBSD. I would appreciate an answer to my = question ASAP, in that I currently learning Solaris 10 and other = versions of BSD software. I would like to include FreeBSD in my = studies. Sincerely and Thank you, Jason H Lindsey Two Owls Working Associates Jason.H.Lindsey@twoowlsworkingassociates.com From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Sep 9 13:21:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9101094D89 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 13:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=kxRp=LX=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A4C172CC4 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 13:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=kxRp=LX=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5262328422; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 15:20:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from illbsd.quip.test (ip-86-49-16-209.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.16.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 894FF28426; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 15:20:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Which platform should I download for FreeBSD? To: Jason Lindsey , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org References: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 15:20:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 13:21:02 -0000 Jason Lindsey via freebsd-arch wrote on 2018/09/09 01:53: > I hope you help me, > > I own a iMac 64, and do not know if I should download amd64 or arm64 platforms to support FreeBSD. I would appreciate an answer to my question ASAP, in that I currently learning Solaris 10 and other versions of BSD software. I would like to include FreeBSD in my studies. I don't own any Apple products but AFAIK all modern Apple computers are using Intel x86 CPUs. If this is true for your model then you need to download amd64 version of FreeBSD system. Miroslav Lachman From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Sep 9 16:14:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F1F1098027 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FCEE77255 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:6885:ea53:18f8:deea]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15807F821 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/15807F821; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Which platform should I download for FreeBSD? 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Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PtDrXu5RtjT27EGYykWKB08u19WdJvpsg" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 16:14:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --PtDrXu5RtjT27EGYykWKB08u19WdJvpsg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="voeJ1sdgUlfcFjlLnjHbV9Es6FwtgB7Fi"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Which platform should I download for FreeBSD? References: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: --voeJ1sdgUlfcFjlLnjHbV9Es6FwtgB7Fi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/09/2018 14:20, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > Jason Lindsey via freebsd-arch wrote on 2018/09/09 01:53: >> I hope you help me, >> >> I own a iMac 64, and do not know if I should download amd64 or arm64 >> platforms to support FreeBSD.=C2=A0 I would appreciate an answer to my= >> question ASAP, in that I currently learning Solaris 10 and other >> versions of BSD software.=C2=A0 I would like to include FreeBSD in my = studies. Solaris 10 is SysV, not BSD. You have to go all the way back to SunOS 4.x for the last BSD variant from Sun. A pedantic distinction I know, but it's what some of us live for. > I don't own any Apple products but AFAIK all modern Apple computers are= > using Intel x86 CPUs. If this is true for your model then you need to > download amd64 version of FreeBSD system. According to Wikipedia (the source of all knowledge....) the iMac G3, G4 or G5 systems were based on PowerPC processors -- - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G4 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G5 However those were discontinued in 2006 in favour of the Intel based iMac= - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_(Intel-based) So, unless the OP has a rather elderly machine, amd64 is the architecture you need. There did use to be some PPC support in FreeBSD, but it never was a Tier-1 architecture, and I think it's basically unsupported if not gone entirely on up-to-date versions of the OS. 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References: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> --PKn1seE1VxCVd5tTMGR75s1uSTxnPtNTi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 09.09.18 um 18:13 schrieb Matthew Seaman: > On 09/09/2018 14:20, Miroslav Lachman wrote: >> Jason Lindsey via freebsd-arch wrote on 2018/09/09 01:53: >>> I hope you help me, >>> >>> I own a iMac 64, and do not know if I should download amd64 or arm64 >>> platforms to support FreeBSD.=A0 I would appreciate an answer to my >>> question ASAP, in that I currently learning Solaris 10 and other >>> versions of BSD software.=A0 I would like to include FreeBSD in my st= udies. >=20 > Solaris 10 is SysV, not BSD. You have to go all the way back to SunOS > 4.x for the last BSD variant from Sun. A pedantic distinction I know, > but it's what some of us live for. To be really pedantic: The USL vs. BSDI lawsuit found, that Sys V.4 (or Solaris 5) contained more BSD than SysV code, and that the only change was the removal of the BSD copyright text (which actually was the only change *not* allowed by the copyrighgt clauses ...). > So, unless the OP has a rather elderly machine, amd64 is the > architecture you need. There did use to be some PPC support in FreeBSD= , > but it never was a Tier-1 architecture, and I think it's basically > unsupported if not gone entirely on up-to-date versions of the OS. Yes, it's definitely amd64, but PPC support is being worked on and alive as a tier-2 platform with support for both the 32 and 64 bit variants: https://wiki.freebsd.org/powerpc Regards, STefan --PKn1seE1VxCVd5tTMGR75s1uSTxnPtNTi-- --eFACtPbuWlmqRWqTHiskDks6UWMHnacCt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEo3HqZZwL7MgrcVMTR+u171r99UQFAluVSwsACgkQR+u171r9 9URTqAf/UcsxnzBjsClXRYUlLQdpBP7Qhow+rvnNWTP0EWs87lbdGuzoezQtV0Br a7uVYUC9FAdI3Gqr1ox/zoyab39vflYTzEse/s7pOT5fd+OoKRL3vujbdWLucJZ1 PRrke1wxhnmkcTYWvRHbRKh3ZwEiDuEl7yEnBbDSrE3tS7JPYn4mqQt4kLcOHjt5 InQEHYIcDqWKi2LTesw23NBY5JCGJ2ktTKG4IOsN/B7pWggKAMZBzZF9CveqJLRX tGyinOlSoRhLWiRn/pc5L6ZFbFQvvnIgTrzj10ZiycDA4jfTpFKdDAa5PxPFrehu C7lUBzTB74WJtuOPzNSPU5Hk7GgLQg== =kFlU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eFACtPbuWlmqRWqTHiskDks6UWMHnacCt-- From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Sep 9 19:42:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33768109CF56 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 19:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x235.google.com (mail-lj1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 927187F5A5; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 19:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x235.google.com with SMTP id m84-v6so16067547lje.10; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alumni-cwru-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xaCF16sDixOwFvXmQs5yc5tTxW0DG6igAWukxzM36js=; b=R5l6SkcGB+uGXvuz0JF2OtwNNimE5y86QXFSRL7EfxPvbjOO3X6CVbomdkvr/G2hHO XJo5H+RYvlisRdIk9ZkgTEBQqkv8hFI4/ks6JXIRNwd2Q9IG7Pwylo8rElLt2A1vU6Ek dNeqCkAqs4UVAenTSokTUnaOigw6Gh+IO0gs35dDzgdqIGocLNnySJf/us0nRveGnZtY wmnS2uB9VXjDJQ402DsB6U2EqnYM7oItYF7uDRfGOpdehhHCNt+DVLn0muu+d4MyuXYB mfCMBkAF3bm/UWvpwGPqp+qETNl8zKdORLV0xaZcIg8hN7r2yNz+72JQ9nUhoP7xOMtM dKJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xaCF16sDixOwFvXmQs5yc5tTxW0DG6igAWukxzM36js=; b=qzUgqIjydt8sYLuk62pmtQQK8tmst0vi0r0b/Yh9aoWaOeMDNe0WSnej4MMwyCE5Dx cWzhu9CncUI/dq06rZ75ArEGIuUTUfHe4ZYOEFLgIMKiSOcI2+OQ6GObxErCu08n5Sda LexXxjjhuXcQFAgjcmktaLkP0APpYgSNW468FgSLvbsRfSZf5SE198qWUOOUzg8W7D6I DtSPdRR4SMOtU74Z0sxiqV//Nrm6HyaJMy5mY4JEvWtOcP5bPDyWoD3WPTremHJPV7Re WMWlmh6WZdNOBHvUPtnIBHFcVmhINRzsyXR+dyNif7IQPWkiPC99GAFVvUBD4IPT0zVZ vLzg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DbeREZfQbIFteF2PJzeE0Idp1u7OFbt9xwJLqH0h6SX/5hPrhg OElN/+/dr4OEFEI2kLmWyGmywPpycjBWYU+qehaeCw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYJVeObrsfO4PUYkKNcLwD3VVfAFHl1ONTHNX7/ygt6PqjBKTEg7m8VncGFWHn8cIMVWbUHrNbsyuS/2JqRkmI= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8346:: with SMTP id l6-v6mr11110540ljh.72.1536522172841; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> From: Justin Hibbits Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 14:42:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which platform should I download for FreeBSD? To: matthew@freebsd.org Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 19:42:55 -0000 On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:14 AM Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 09/09/2018 14:20, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > > Jason Lindsey via freebsd-arch wrote on 2018/09/09 01:53: > >> I hope you help me, > >> > >> I own a iMac 64, and do not know if I should download amd64 or arm64 > >> platforms to support FreeBSD. I would appreciate an answer to my > >> question ASAP, in that I currently learning Solaris 10 and other > >> versions of BSD software. I would like to include FreeBSD in my studies. > > Solaris 10 is SysV, not BSD. You have to go all the way back to SunOS > 4.x for the last BSD variant from Sun. A pedantic distinction I know, > but it's what some of us live for. > > > I don't own any Apple products but AFAIK all modern Apple computers are > > using Intel x86 CPUs. If this is true for your model then you need to > > download amd64 version of FreeBSD system. > > According to Wikipedia (the source of all knowledge....) the iMac G3, G4 > or G5 systems were based on PowerPC processors -- > > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3 > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G4 > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G5 > > However those were discontinued in 2006 in favour of the Intel based iMac > > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_(Intel-based) > > So, unless the OP has a rather elderly machine, amd64 is the > architecture you need. There did use to be some PPC support in FreeBSD, > but it never was a Tier-1 architecture, and I think it's basically > unsupported if not gone entirely on up-to-date versions of the OS. PowerPC is well supported, and even has two new quite active developers. It runs on older Apple hardware, IBM POWER* server hardware, and embedded Freescale Book-E hardware. I myself have all three variants: multiple PowerMacs and PowerBooks, 3 Book-E systems (including two desktop systems), and a Talos POWER9 system, all running FreeBSD. There is a strong effort underway to have official PowerPC packages built as well. So it's far from being unsupported. - Justin From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Sep 14 12:47:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CBE10829AF for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexandru.elisei@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC59B80E63; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexandru.elisei@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id 130-v6so5052227qkd.10; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=f5c/2TyOyyqdkabnhSILHzFy78+0WprUXt0FyDLbXP0=; b=tbON/ChXQm6iO0ra3rsqBwYRSr0NiUxGxytcaxr3NI3M3d8k/aONt5Yty3XTEWw5rp ncdzYMH5ymxN8JN+PMVlDKWQWJa17NV5d4fxHxx8xKCk80t7WVGZp7BnkYvau39RGn4v Oan4YZOaRY1j96evZceDrB366OEdX7WjdZDneB0m/cJj/vSWTckei73PYnOvnYNKb7sC CMuvdtIAxGVhSl9ibNF9oEurVAcYnFNc6jjcrY2XPNhxqdQ5G0xumXFEZmb8Zpv29NB3 b6jsUTSWlz/UFcj60lWeBGAT9udMKcVLtYhtWARxJAU6QNazUncRKY0/Ic6QJg59xKrm f5jA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=f5c/2TyOyyqdkabnhSILHzFy78+0WprUXt0FyDLbXP0=; b=avcOjHL2ZDIKQrfsLJUIYCD9MGD8BYB0mTDVfVcQktnXvcs/j2sPI+Gs5mctgJWZtE czdDuZMKuexrCNsl+gFfgg08gw3UUkcrW3pTiPJgovaZTEtVYTjkUAZ8DoSeX/tCWt/y rPCbrde2P1K/J8bc3w/LHIszXeDsW3l/Y7xpDhIjE7GBg4+vN4K6wphQZQHcpUpHCrTH xGUFqKOE+m896SGHqkc7EHv+lK393QCkMNEnb8t2RPUQ5voF4jylriTlksSFoRPIW/wW v+/K8FPN86lJ/kPlqPdphAPGDqU9n5nWIdYg5ku6Dxva3FBJapHytz3uUOuKZac+rXAA dvuw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51A1raF/RlQE4cRHWYbK3nZYSLSDMPOQWSZ5ODHnjMhi+Hp/zNGk GUThPbDWyIX5Pjkrqn8Z09puKYLc9Lq26aYby+AZ76bT X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZFdEZLeIV5V4JQrmiVls04ux3MxDaIA+sEdrzFfUqlr2X558wgQqjSwU589bPUYKKlbCbsngTCLqednr6zW50= X-Received: by 2002:a37:1adb:: with SMTP id l88-v6mr8038534qkh.43.1536929227959; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alexandru Elisei Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:46:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compile FreeBSD on linux/MacOS To: arichardson@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:47:09 -0000 Hello Alex, If someone wants to create an issue or contribute to your patch, how can that be done? Regards, Alex On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM Alexander Richardson wrote: > Once Fri, 31 Aug 2018, 14:11 Alexandru Elisei, > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I know there is a project about compiling FreeBSD on linux or MacOS. >> >> Where can I find more information about the project? Has it been submitted >> for review? >> > > Hi Alexandru, > > > I have been working on this for the past few months. I have a > work-in-progress branch on GitHub < > https://github.com/arichardson/freebsd/tree/crossbuild-aug2018> (warning: > I rebase this branch whenever I commit one of my changes) but I haven't > written up anything about the current state. > I have a few pending patches on phabricator and some committed changes but > the rest of the changes still needs some clean-up before it can be > submitted. Most of the changes are just allowing to build one of the > bootstrap tools on non-FreeBSD but there are also two bigger changes > (D16815 and D14316) to provide the basic cross-OS building infrastructure. > > It currently works fine for me on MacOS and Linux when compiling with the > CHERI fork of llvm/clang/lld () but > in order to compile with upstream clang you will have to delete the builtin > std* headers from the clang install since they are incompatible with the > FreeBSD stddef.h/stdio.h/etc. headers. > > If you want to try it out you should to use the script tools/build/make.py > instead of make and if you're lucky `make.py buildworld` might succeed. > I've tested building for mips64 and amd64 but other architectures might > also be fine. > > > Alex > > Best regards, >> Alexandru Elisei >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch >> > From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Sep 14 21:11:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677971093CC6 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arichardson.kde@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-f180.google.com (mail-yb1-f180.google.com [209.85.219.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 047DE72BE3 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arichardson.kde@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-f180.google.com with SMTP id o17-v6so5401921yba.2 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:11:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ufc0FJMMBzZBVGAwmY298ShGPbfW31ODQvXt+UDy25M=; b=j2bCDlBD9gXXqEQBFM9NdiigVIUTDZRTyrwHvWjl7ATbYJk/GsXYfGQeZu1R8LMsMK q4pNlln0Nx0h7VPQWMfDhsbZMyoLOAGYKOKDVEHdBftYR+TFIbTJ4rVnCeofWyfUiao6 7W1KnshhGld7nteWUm3hUcK9/Rgxt74GMV4j16PeaJ5ecLuLWXbdbUtEIXO1RDT9s5kA pVQKTslXJwjH6Hdi3f1Fiu09szG8c/YZ+/Ie23k7K/Ih5Zuo8HbwBfjYd91lfpvyWOM1 T5q9n0yyErUkW0IsIxwxU8aak/+ZAj5enxsnpv9zru7dZO99fqRmfE1sn4ue6F3Hzupc Ohuw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BB3f+kUymtTF31pTOvuRlajKhlNOCxmyPvDKpo1APcx93/IArt Bgv2unL98T27OMgS2rPZRek3OYWoQGA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZa8hqt8vIy5HcQ83MMr6miTWtb4gc4LxLtwPNuDx3m/euLa1DKG5Xn6zGQF59+y0OIwgkm/g== X-Received: by 2002:a25:b20c:: with SMTP id i12-v6mr3568041ybj.371.1536953153868; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw1-f48.google.com (mail-yw1-f48.google.com. [209.85.161.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s63-v6sm4504612ywd.63.2018.09.14.12.25.53 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f48.google.com with SMTP id y134-v6so3083937ywg.1 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a0d:d849:: with SMTP id a70-v6mr6459531ywe.506.1536953153437; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alexander Richardson Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:25:45 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compile FreeBSD on linux/MacOS To: Alexandru Elisei Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:11:01 -0000 Hi Alex, If you would like to make some changes you could open an issue/create a pull request on my GitHub repo. However, I'll be traveling for the next two weeks so it might take a while until I respond. Once I get back I will start working on this again and hopefully get most of the patches submitted soon. Regards, Alex On Fri, 14 Sep 2018, 13:47 Alexandru Elisei, wrote: > Hello Alex, > > If someone wants to create an issue or contribute to your patch, how can > that be done? > > Regards, > Alex > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM Alexander Richardson < > arichardson@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> Once Fri, 31 Aug 2018, 14:11 Alexandru Elisei, < >> alexandru.elisei@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I know there is a project about compiling FreeBSD on linux or MacOS. >>> >>> Where can I find more information about the project? Has it been >>> submitted >>> for review? >>> >> >> Hi Alexandru, >> >> >> I have been working on this for the past few months. I have a >> work-in-progress branch on GitHub < >> https://github.com/arichardson/freebsd/tree/crossbuild-aug2018> >> (warning: I rebase this branch whenever I commit one of my changes) but I >> haven't written up anything about the current state. >> I have a few pending patches on phabricator and some committed changes >> but the rest of the changes still needs some clean-up before it can be >> submitted. Most of the changes are just allowing to build one of the >> bootstrap tools on non-FreeBSD but there are also two bigger changes >> (D16815 and D14316) to provide the basic cross-OS building infrastructure. >> >> It currently works fine for me on MacOS and Linux when compiling with the >> CHERI fork of llvm/clang/lld () >> but in order to compile with upstream clang you will have to delete the >> builtin std* headers from the clang install since they are incompatible >> with the FreeBSD stddef.h/stdio.h/etc. headers. >> >> If you want to try it out you should to use the script >> tools/build/make.py instead of make and if you're lucky `make.py >> buildworld` might succeed. I've tested building for mips64 and amd64 but >> other architectures might also be fine. >> >> >> Alex >> >> Best regards, >>> Alexandru Elisei >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch >>> >>