From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 30 19:16:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE7B10F1CB7 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 017697560A; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id 1D9753C4760; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:16:05 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: Brooks Davis Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: style change for syscalls.master Message-ID: <20181030191605.GA37638@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20181009221826.GA75401@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181009221826.GA75401@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:16:06 -0000 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've posted a review and plan to commit tomorrow as this is blocking further cleanups. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D17706 -- Brooks On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 10:18:26PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote: > I have a patch (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D17488) that removes the > need for backslash line continuations in syscalls.master files with > the aim of making the files more readable. Based on the functionality > in that patch, I'd like to propose changing the style of the file to > something better suited the long lines introduced by long type/variable > names and SAL annotations. I'd also like it to be easier to diff > between the main syscalls.master and the freebsd32 version. Longer > term, I hope to be able to generate freebsd32 files from the default > syscalls.master which will be aided by reducing diffs and making room > for more annotations. >=20 > To those ends, I propose a reformat along the lines of the examples below: >=20 > Old format: > 1 AUE_EXIT STD { void sys_exit(int rval); } exit \ > sys_exit_args void > ... > 5 AUE_OPEN_RWTC STD { int open( \ > _In_z_ char *path, \ > int flags, \ > int mode); } >=20 > New format: > 1 AUE_EXIT STD { > void sys_exit( > int rval > ); > } exit sys_exit_args void > ... > 5 AUE_OPEN_RWTC STD {=20 > int open(=20 > _In_z_ char *path, =20 > int flags, =20 > int mode =20 > ); =20 > } >=20 > For an example of where this makes diffs easier, consider preadv: >=20 > Old format: > 289 AUE_PREADV STD { ssize_t preadv(int fd, \ > _In_reads_(iovcnt) \ > struct iovec *iovp, \ > u_int iovcnt, off_t offset); } >=20 > New format: > 289 AUE_PREADV STD { > ssize_t preadv( > int fd, > _In_reads_(iovcnt) struct iovec *iovp, > u_int iovcnt, > off_t offset > ); > } >=20 > New format (freebsd32): > 289 AUE_PREADV STD { > ssize_t freebsd32_preadv( > int fd, > _In_reads_(iovcnt) struct iovec32 *iovp, > u_int iovcnt, > uint32_t offset1, > uint32_t offset2 > ); > } >=20 >=20 > Some comments on this: > - One-variable-per-line allows for annotations and is struct-like which > is appropriate since this is more about declaring uap structs then > about function declarations. > - I chose the top level indent keep things readable without adding a > blank between each syscall block. I'd be happy to drop things back > one tab if we'd rather have blanks between each declaration. > - If one really cared about vertical space, one could combine the ");", > "}", and alternative names, but I didn't find that very aesthetic. >=20 > I'd like to know if this would break any out-of-tree parsers. If so, > we can easily keep backslashes, but I'd rather clear those out if > we're going to complicate svn blame for every line in the file. Parsers > written in more sensible languages than the in-tree sh+sed+awk monster > seem likely to be easy to fix and I hope that a more stylized format > will be easier to handle with dumb parsers, but I'd like to hear if this > change would cause issues. >=20 > -- Brooks >=20 > P.S. I'd plan to make this change after the 12.0 branch, but would like > to reach concensus sooner as I'm working on yet-another-syscall vector > in my work tree and I'd like to use this there. --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJb2K3zAAoJEKzQXbSebgfAyRMH/05rVb08HbVDmd7QE7YRv6Ri YdSTWu2RsCsX32i/GeVyZOmI6JpcPu9B9LYAp/gLdcpPveGW1RPisOQHWVw/FNJ1 VaivYOSGHSP7Xmhmmdml+XVmMJ2cUZjJvDj97xfi1cgv7j+Zay1vDwLJGETmPAYo fBo9Imnwe6gO8AzYhKqyWnKpIY4179AB7uZZMrT4MVWKbwJQ4immQL+8pLH10aPm KSJ8a4DNBJuPGk+C/ZQNGKzDNOLdHfbWyqLqHzu1//8y1LTS3po/q+0s/DX9E63d qrotRBcNB3brRBJg/CKFcRIH4MXhowZCMpfe7qdlYMd+FQlPH+k4HXLX7sQtvc4= =Ahn8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Nov 2 17:01:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C5D10FD69C for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 17:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7117A750E7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 17:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id n11-v6so1850238iob.6 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:01:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mynCBW757H+U3Y4xJzdNBlXEeAwQFKPnWXME2vQDDjk=; b=HUVao8puISMibWl0M8G5vvzytLTUEZhtT9oYnP+UHPjtSZuEIyZ6iYwzFC75VwmH5D ByfSnD32r8dpbWQdvQhS6Hevb3Y4cpSxsyaV3sCQO+TDXwe7DH5/+dCaqLbppkn2utq7 xIIIpr78W22WNUEGl+fKD0YXGvUS6RwFLFPyuKlu+ZwzaKa/eNCohsH8VroV3MRM8TT3 F9/v+mS/CWsHMJuyIbZAf5IB9n3DvXJ6N/H4VFQyIXhuaqUI0hzC3w6TWOrnZ7b7VwMP ajHpr8D6Mzz8AvtxCvYcKh2VvdbCl73G+lnpuG5t5Ls6THq2uzAMuBhuyjcQ1tPD7tVH ULeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mynCBW757H+U3Y4xJzdNBlXEeAwQFKPnWXME2vQDDjk=; b=gorENmMbwWfSeMy2vrgkzybKV5QAP4fcXHI6V1f+sjbA5UodP0b1zpwl0KlhToPXGa k178Ftavm2Y5e2naAU5MNa3mhv6ux1YBoI2qwIBik30oiCWMpS8oMajfpjqLmifv2KkB w+/OaU8KOLEG5HZ41Ol2GNjcMhPnUsxEVaJ5uiflSJ9pcRQBotNTE2me5G8Ed01w10m5 bBFi8zK8N7tADipHzkUeKLvfdr8hLu/qnyyKMbwe9uGHHHFhJzmTX3qShJCZZuHNgc4a IKQEQDRIIHQeCeh+DDzG7RGal5P1VpWpLOhU0yS15nfVKk3khcv9IiQ8cJRcYxsTejhU Q56w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKpmw999/ao3gKqzO7BiQtMDQG41hfJ1iJDlni+T6rwKGr8B0bf YJ9bdyljo880B/4yoXXV7b2wYDpiCcGBGYR9s8Yi5zUd X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fm13u1+MR0FyT4WFTKbzjuV2IQfEl30ypuwxJndqPbr+jCpK/QNshLoION62oIyyZP8d7KZ3e/lkuKzJ98bLA= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7809:: with SMTP id j9-v6mr2805459iom.299.1541178097529; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:01:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:01:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: NANDFS -- Any current users? To: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:01:39 -0000 Are there any current users of NANDFS? 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From: Ian Lepore To: Warner Losh , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 11:07:38 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:07:54 -0000 On Fri, 2018-11-02 at 11:01 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > Are there any current users of NANDFS? This may be a good thing to ask in arm@ and mips@. Some old arm kernel configs include it, because some of the *Plug line of armv5 systems come with compatible nand parts on the board (but of course just having it in the kernel doesn't mean anyone is actually using it). We tried to use it at $work a few years ago, but it was too buggy to deploy. Fixes have been done to it since then, but I/we never re-tested because we had an alternate homebrew solution. -- Ian From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Nov 2 17:26:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048DA10D43D6 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 17:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it1-x12f.google.com (mail-it1-x12f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C016764AB for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 17:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id p64-v6so4208862itp.0 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:26:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=x7UfYorw/CzWNVSPE1MiOm14pjdEcCmu4UnfkqANxAw=; b=KDPlqMuZAEPYhZ0zirJY9vjyqdANs5FoHH+VI3mLluw3aIDWl0GsfqbPHtIeFzQgyL igKu/MaQwobv8iOeMrnhJ/FkybP8DxjqWdeO+OIHmtXVVuaEI3k17SaoUaHkyB5bmB6i iuMguAmBYrLQSfg1OL2ggOxcM7nABXE8Cblz6a7xZqOHYrkFXfDOscD9XMlQJ76MnUFD OkEO+4fJNFli2FmUp61BfFylexz8INW286U3sSnwQ12nj8lKdGyDvF5Q7rL+qKUeScm2 qn1G357AeA6yginw983QTJRIx525ewpiR7dofcZ/ArkDXEcq1g3590BnkHjY3GLIFCg3 Ht5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=x7UfYorw/CzWNVSPE1MiOm14pjdEcCmu4UnfkqANxAw=; b=iLyVqoGw/7IUM5CStsN3wcBtpZGhXasNF31gxMqIUz6s+nqtNomD+34YoMZiBl+rPM cvf3XuUf/Nd7/a6CPpuwjo9c/p/nM0EKrRlOvqQVsRFAa5TmXTpEqhC0xLjoKwvvMKUG JaoqRCbOrMrZQw/MP8yvKcWwhtwT83gK6BwFwQ7/WR27tul1gXta8pC/zjeCmlLfDP6e UPCh8l7oH0uOVyLSa048locwl/7tdCocLbQCtSWIpICQ0jJydRfv2NJ9tURU9QP79sw0 +i0RoOaLOoUyCxbOG27KwOAeX1F8aVeR21juuZzK3EljFCtnplgQw3//5dIbeUcN/rVQ ufbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKorZSrIB7LtaDaaOInhv7W4Mm6hE61sv4KbSc7aN9MZBFxJnlH 72tFRXz10Mh1ajlFahKcsoy/WFDHQqbw7x8Qa5yfmPId X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5daieGQMI5NVeXlcpovGJrjQdZCvJab47uUONA6lkraUbKSldC5vm6t7JiyyS2ZiiXPwAiKHAGqh9YMlm3giao= X-Received: by 2002:a24:eb0b:: with SMTP id h11-v6mr131158itj.47.1541179615594; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1541178458.22340.242.camel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <1541178458.22340.242.camel@freebsd.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:26:44 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NANDFS -- Any current users? To: Ian Lepore Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:26:57 -0000 On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 11:07 AM Ian Lepore wrote: > On Fri, 2018-11-02 at 11:01 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > Are there any current users of NANDFS? > > This may be a good thing to ask in arm@ and mips@. Some old arm kernel > configs include it, because some of the *Plug line of armv5 systems > come with compatible nand parts on the board (but of course just having > it in the kernel doesn't mean anyone is actually using it). > I'll be polling there to. > We tried to use it at $work a few years ago, but it was too buggy to > deploy. Fixes have been done to it since then, but I/we never re-tested > because we had an alternate homebrew solution. > I had similar experience... My analysis is that it can't possibly work. It fails to abide by the vnode locking protocol, so the vnodes can be freed up out from under the routines that are trying to use them as a locking protocol for their data. This has remained unfixed since it was identified in the 10-current time frame. I'd wanted to use it since an append only filesystem is well suited to SSDs, but found that while the code worked OKish on the system when there was no load, but as soon as you started churning vnodes it would panic. nandfs_lookup, for example, drops the lock and relocks the vnode without refing it so it can disappear as soon as it unlock returns if there's no reference. There's other places where there's lock ordering issues with its use of the lock manager and the way it mixes with mtx_lock/unlock. These two issues are what made me give up on it since the quick, naive changes revealed the next layer of issues that I'm not recalling at the moment. 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Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (fuz.su [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:e508::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "amnesiac", Issuer "amnesiac" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C25B884BE7 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuz.su (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wA3EfSXt042976 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2018 15:41:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: (from fuz@localhost) by fuz.su (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id wA3EfSYd042975 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Nov 2018 15:41:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fuz) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 15:41:28 +0100 From: Robert Clausecker To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free BSD for Lenovo Laptop Message-ID: <20181103144128.GA42798@fuz.su> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2018 14:41:31 -0000 Hi Ravi, This is hard to day as these specifications match about six dozen different laptop models. Please give us more details such as the actual model name, the actual CPU type and the make and model of installed peripherals, such as the IEEE 802.11 card. Then check the hardware compatibility list [1] to see which of these are supported. Yours, Robert Clausecker [1]: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.2R/hardware.html On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 02:07:31PM +0000, Ravi Raj wrote: > Hi > > > I have a Lenovo Laptop with following Specifications: > > Processor: Intel Core i3 > > RAM: 4 GB > > Hard Disk: 500 GB > > Hardware Architecture: X86_64, > > > Does Free BSD Support that? > > Thanks > > Ravi Raj > > 8800404712 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- () ascii ribbon campaign - for an 8-bit clean world /\ - against html email - against proprietary attachments From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Nov 3 14:41:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BC410FF890 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from artemis.db.net (artemis.db.net [45.32.229.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE6C84BF1 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from night.db.net (artemis.db.net [45.32.229.41]) by artemis.db.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EDAFDCB; Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by night.db.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B724039872; Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:41:31 -0400 From: Diane Bruce To: Ravi Raj Cc: "freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Free BSD for Lenovo Laptop Message-ID: <20181103144131.GA7615@night.db.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2018 14:41:35 -0000 On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 02:07:31PM +0000, Ravi Raj wrote: > Hi > > > I have a Lenovo Laptop with following Specifications: > > Processor: Intel Core i3 > > RAM: 4 GB > > Hard Disk: 500 GB > > Hardware Architecture: X86_64, > > > Does Free BSD Support that? Yes.. Which model? I'd swap out that 4GB for 2 8GB modules however. > > Thanks > > Ravi Raj > > 8800404712 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- - db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://artemis.db.net/~db