From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Wed Aug 29 20:23:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE51E10953F6 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFEC80572 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 260E710953F5; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149F110953F4 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0B6480571 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id DE106398ED7; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:05 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: fcp-editors@freebsd.org Subject: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-ID: <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:16 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting review by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it around for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=20 -- Brooks --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbhwCpAAoJEKzQXbSebgfACVsH/iUPGgGys0WUhUnalwYuIEOm 7ACnu3Gpmzg7HcoM8UnvRfzlIQJB3s2qbHjuiTnw1a/fklHf2T3JY1j8rqIX/sSz Ksii7+uEcHEFXfXSzKQkkaRUNKcYDtFmy77AdPauwWoSAmv2ECIgXWO+WA8+Ftj9 d9M4Ko3woT/lHbE3uLWndU6Zc89i93Dgd7NXMvCPfbOdwkXaqTrE0MNNNYYmrOWA WbC3FDpgDLUyAkore72Ls0Mf/9e8VSjjRkDRctD+gkKz+is525JeNSS6fxu3By/m EU39yK3ftIIeEZuzhcufY5PqzEsNR4FZNqmIvhrNSm7EdP3p8NZtVc8XAlrJNAU= =TeSM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 00:19:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89350108A72A for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FD988C0F for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DD5BD108A729; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0CD108A728 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43F8988C0D; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id vAgTfCXo05HxqvAgUfxR1T; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:19:39 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=BMcHU2YG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=y3olD_i8AAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=23uPp8WXq3B5-UOapwEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VlZU0XKO32wA:10 a=2GdgqtpztZvaxdPX1XqS:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 333AB4A4; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7U0JKHQ073900; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w7U0JKZw073897; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201808300019.w7U0JKZw073897@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Brooks Davis cc: fcp-editors@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers In-Reply-To: Message from Brooks Davis of "Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:05 -0000." <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:19:20 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfELvjTrGA9oN45RxLXvlUdflR8zxffAselUrQ1EHCp1MWPnt6lDgPE+AmPRc0guvAinfGYXubvsxBIGVxbmT+C7gqs6HGqIGV3aJNLEV+VdQF27inM37 38H1v2yp+npsKCXxkCH6/aixxVLGDh1EX2U8jPnJlB9aN+Hj8yYTVYOe56Py/hqfXZftQJKIrJroAwd20/OE/08kD3NkYFXQRerGtIBsHs+tDWFCA4nZH3cL X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:19:48 -0000 In message <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks Davis wr ites: > My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting review > by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it around > for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: > > https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=20 Hi Brooks, I just added an issue. I use fxp, xl and dc in my firewall. Why do we want to remove these drivers? -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 00:29:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792D0108AA31 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1890688FF2 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C97AC108AA30; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B819D108AA2E for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C78F88FF0; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id vApnflRfZWppDvApofvgKd; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:29:18 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=YIcrNiOx c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=y3olD_i8AAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=e0QSTY7NJufjK555xB8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VlZU0XKO32wA:10 a=2GdgqtpztZvaxdPX1XqS:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09B8D4BC; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7U0SxYf093306; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w7U0SxHf093294; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201808300028.w7U0SxHf093294@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Brooks Davis cc: fcp-editors@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers In-Reply-To: Message from Brooks Davis of "Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:23:05 -0000." <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:28:59 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOdhg7UAEmsEeGKbbY54QvgZU2/bu4KnYcG8ItDBf7vzWGgXqS4Up/NhkwS/n2boYf6way0Jpbfb9ZQHs9kPqXedK1JPreSjLacu4L0lsSA2OcBh+8ED cw9vLCz8VKzEFZaELGSbBwAsgkDlzqi9/jjLw+tlHFKY2zpUQYx4bxm0AWmrly7tyLfQ6Lc4Hu5ZETtbcNn4xHSWIyiLMlBctgdzU/NIBo35QGokYHaNm1YU X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:29:21 -0000 In message <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks Davis wr ites: > My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting review > by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it around > for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: > > https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=20 In addition I have a laptop that has rl, three running machines with nfe and and one with vr. In addition to fxp, xl, and dc, that I mentioned before, this would be very disruptive. Isn't nfe gigabit? -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 15:25:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284A610A1834 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B421785E67 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7B7F910A1833; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A35310A1832 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15F0285E65 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id 8DC0E398ED7; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:46 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: Cy Schubert Cc: fcp-editors@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-ID: <20180830152546.GB21890@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <201808300019.w7U0JKZw073897@slippy.cwsent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201808300019.w7U0JKZw073897@slippy.cwsent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:25:49 -0000 --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:19:20PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks=20 > Davis wr > ites: > > My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting review > > by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it around > > for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=3D20 >=20 > Hi Brooks, >=20 > I just added an issue. I use fxp, xl and dc in my firewall. >=20 > Why do we want to remove these drivers? All of those are on the exceptions list... -- Brooks --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbiAx5AAoJEKzQXbSebgfAylUIAIBUCbvEaor7YTFmXxL9ldCN LueO6z2UoYk/D2QPArVVtTwNb21HtlM7ZwXz11ewyD+4kLd0D2DFlf2KoBpf/q6o ieZmYJOZtNhAILL4dnFGqXu9v138PRUSooUo4UjmNrHWnD+TsDg3iJyXzbh0n3t6 d8efk3lUzM3B8L2PPzV1T9YDRVguvUhYasuqlcML4guSBDpWxrcXMEcAoip5qf/R SgxtE/Fa87JAk8pSoWGkGoKUL62MdRwVL4a9+GO3wXFGr5bMeR56CaKVW4TiJ7BU c9WaTLQqIHQV+ethbTJKKizrq5NsdxP5BLfAtLMkF5EcpLntfTF517DoVXJeSlc= =XIWH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH-- From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 15:52:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBB110A2214 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C408186E92 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8AD0710A220F; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DA110A220E for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B43E86E8B for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id A216A398ED7; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:03 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: Cy Schubert Cc: fcp-editors@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-ID: <20180830155203.GC21890@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <201808300028.w7U0SxHf093294@slippy.cwsent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201808300028.w7U0SxHf093294@slippy.cwsent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:06 -0000 --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:28:59PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks=20 > Davis wr > ites: > > My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting review > > by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it around > > for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=3D20 >=20 > In addition I have a laptop that has rl, three running machines with=20 > nfe and and one with vr. In addition to fxp, xl, and dc, that I=20 > mentioned before, this would be very disruptive. When was the laptop made? Is the vr onboard or an addon card? As I'll ask when I ask for broader feedback: do you plan to be running this system unchanged except for OS update in 2024? > Isn't nfe gigabit? Including nfe was a mistake (the driver says: "NVIDIA nForce MCP Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet" and I stopped reading at Fast Ethernet because who ever writes this phrase?). -- Brooks --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbiBKiAAoJEKzQXbSebgfAkUcH/RWlCFn0vL7C51HB2BaORbRz yuArWWHoI99ylZY0XXubHe1QZShGG7i4FL+XE7LuTUTweLN0tZiS2suVIazwrGjb GQhawBV7r8o0419+25ohdgnTx1tKsJXpYmzLcaQ3KxU254/EHA8yi0yZwZ09NstX e+6hXZEF6/lROR2g+acNxpuuD+d2Mi6hdic9Ba2p+yM3dEa55eXsm0zrI5wERaZF A3f6i5AhKnGXk6gM7PZASsB67NGC8/UPMxTGJMUT9By1J9fF3LdBPIVpf9zx2zok jS4Tu6aRDOdCA+hrLn/+uTsUzaZP8oV/NrznGsFy33FjjABmpRmQMT397I8hbOc= =6sbQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD-- From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 16:01:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2795610A2877 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71028767A for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7D9E910A2876; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437EA10A2875 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDB1A87675; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id vPNrfFmBf5HxqvPNtfz4Fz; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:01:26 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=BMcHU2YG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=y3olD_i8AAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=9W74oRpuR0GXFyHXnHoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UJ0tAi3fqDAA:10 a=2GdgqtpztZvaxdPX1XqS:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13C371F33; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7UG171n075084; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w7UG17Ze075081; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201808301601.w7UG17Ze075081@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Brooks Davis cc: Cy Schubert , fcp-editors@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers In-Reply-To: Message from Brooks Davis of "Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:03 -0000." <20180830155203.GC21890@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:01:07 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGl+hQaGwZ8255hY91AxApQiXDlaP/iDz+ldqffpGgHfCcgqacHzY06wEs56D84jlPDffyHsZr6bYc9NSM/Y609MM1Ew3XuvzhOAG4P/5OT8dPT3UVCP 0w2rxATqXT78bGgb3RPZblshMIqqSUi6CRrYf4SX+Cigi0T0th8bpUBlQfVzOF15ITftVX8xGC1xYYD7Agc3qpfHKZQlQW6Hop+GqK+dMbbX5fiaUtXpgVyM X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:30 -0000 In message <20180830155203.GC21890@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks Davis wr ites: > > > --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:28:59PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks=20 > > Davis wr > > ites: > > > My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting review > > > by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it around > > > for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: > > > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=3D20 > >=20 > > In addition I have a laptop that has rl, three running machines with=20 > > nfe and and one with vr. In addition to fxp, xl, and dc, that I=20 > > mentioned before, this would be very disruptive. > > When was the laptop made? Is the vr onboard or an addon card? As I'll > ask when I ask for broader feedback: do you plan to be running this > system unchanged except for OS update in 2024? The vr is on a motherboard and the rl is on a laptop motherboard. The laptop was made about six or seven years ago. > > > Isn't nfe gigabit? > > Including nfe was a mistake (the driver says: "NVIDIA nForce MCP Fast > Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet" and I stopped reading at Fast Ethernet > because who ever writes this phrase?). ahh -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 16:14:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB62210A2BDD for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (mx1.scaleengine.net [209.51.186.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3066F88519 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.1.1.2] (Seawolf.HML3.ScaleEngine.net [209.51.186.28]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 66FFB1E101 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers To: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org References: <201808301601.w7UG17Ze075081@slippy.cwsent.com> From: Allan Jude Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=allanjude@freebsd.org; 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WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201808301601.w7UG17Ze075081@slippy.cwsent.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3PiMPacbeqJR2Q8syl7i4etR9d4o1Z6js" X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:14:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --3PiMPacbeqJR2Q8syl7i4etR9d4o1Z6js Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="49k7m8IsespUt03T1XLDpLssiOs00aPlT"; protected-headers="v1" From: Allan Jude To: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers References: <201808301601.w7UG17Ze075081@slippy.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: <201808301601.w7UG17Ze075081@slippy.cwsent.com> --49k7m8IsespUt03T1XLDpLssiOs00aPlT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2018-08-30 12:01, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <20180830155203.GC21890@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks = > Davis wr > ites: >> >> >> --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii >> Content-Disposition: inline >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:28:59PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: >>> In message <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brook= s=3D20 >>> Davis wr >>> ites: >>>> My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting rev= iew >>>> by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it aroun= d >>>> for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=3D3D20 >>> =3D20 >>> In addition I have a laptop that has rl, three running machines with=3D= 20 >>> nfe and and one with vr. In addition to fxp, xl, and dc, that I=3D20 >>> mentioned before, this would be very disruptive. >> >> When was the laptop made? Is the vr onboard or an addon card? As I'l= l >> ask when I ask for broader feedback: do you plan to be running this >> system unchanged except for OS update in 2024? >=20 > The vr is on a motherboard and the rl is on a laptop motherboard. The=20 > laptop was made about six or seven years ago. >=20 What is the motherboard model? >> >>> Isn't nfe gigabit? >> >> Including nfe was a mistake (the driver says: "NVIDIA nForce MCP Fast >> Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet" and I stopped reading at Fast Ethernet >> because who ever writes this phrase?). >=20 > ahh >=20 >=20 --=20 Allan Jude --49k7m8IsespUt03T1XLDpLssiOs00aPlT-- --3PiMPacbeqJR2Q8syl7i4etR9d4o1Z6js Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJbiBffAAoJEBmVNT4SmAt+nwwQAKVh7E4PLZnpUZpwI3QyurEr Lagugsi5Ro6zr/Kc6maRRQkUpxb1L3tk4I5Y7dMPTVHqRbCPaGW0r+HEnNu7Y/G/ bgst1O512ddv4asYg1Vp/HKUhQVjeD/r19l2nDOzHBwRl9mC6S8jmtKhrDeBePgd MNMyBYB/m0TWunHFxuwyVuNIrNESRt7nhLEn+RpaA4I6W/l3CP99FmBWsPp4bgt6 0WLkJUABe1khuk3jVd+IVW5/xw9fuphvHwm76S/BG4ygm/Zwd/px8znzHqyIvX71 iOqHXsydAjniy0159HzD3KrxTzKzyfbugnNlam7wc7tXJZMNGkJj4vb7EyDsFBZl rKytceS/XXgLdV/WwgTxhCfJo+wUMP8uKe6ttR1ePEjhx939PblcNK7lZSwA2gMI hi454n8tW6jLpud1EeFj6/SXbW6p+t8YqFzZ3fUju1H7GUvyt9+KyaspJG1D7mi9 4nNyj+kEnQB/MmlvXvW/sj3jk0Tz2myN8QHDgMk8StIkhLozFw32bZudfMWyw4tu Rl/MLmJBhN1eb8+rh6nCZ16gZRKoOJPaqgVV1oc9CKrGh7ZmY+j5RSZL5XLQxaFm 4K6kKJVnzgLPgs2P5JeA5/jWr94mEDFEG/YEG7+QBVLILuO6H/QbMlRISzEInx7A HvbKj2pYOmyXwYJPkKdj =BxO/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3PiMPacbeqJR2Q8syl7i4etR9d4o1Z6js--