From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 00:22:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E72110CBB5 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic310-15.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic310-15.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.135.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6851988A90 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: mdCW1jkVM1k9i7pw2ORxKH3AKswA5vNMZ6LfEMyjQeyqh08r.OZ_KJz7m1Dp4ab 22PnJQC9X0JbisYv6.r8WmgJ.eVCVLrYTHyKSXMjKnMc..4u2VCDFxItyyQ4cZcWR3P.7Y5.YPWD IW_raGvupBBrhpn3BN6ESBWIqFf9yGSqKnzJ5dQrUgi5LJhpG4Wvhv1xlqsw9qrJsvGry7AiXKMM jBHMSyjseTOLhlnBxNVlh3nntANpPh1FVpJkvp.5vaQKvuxuQ04VWEVvtLkPyohcD1S.B3uh.jst CZzagm_bWlodRaLxNqqswNULouw5GTYbrn8LuDwOeFobIbJgPUr.TZ.DyxbvPtNJTSt9x1rUdKQk FJYnr3Skf5li74iyQo1x3PtNnXdRcgAfri14xPneICTSLzWadiAEw3OmGF0g29TTY1ci6kiKZXzn hFGmLjgNQ59v3XawVow4B2TlL4p2tZDYrUeTB_dg4Ht5Og2KvXaNzgfmzSmeDAz105STEWGylDOK oW0mB1aqLHhc4hZM1dzZA2zaYj9i9uMWN36V1LTjzVo5ccTrstHf6TYS78OpCRGlEjnBLliCiXiw bC.VjBW2I.v7_9q4v0FgRTalbQvqVyaE0npCQ25NL7WDtlztaDm_wA_pwH1JubC.Zwy5PP8i65z6 xYB6l44W_35bY_5KHZ3wUIvOv0WWR8tOYzNzF_KXjsBf1b2tIe43yUSvSSLiUl7wGfq0UC.E2HGk NdlinU7bb7PJExg_26OVDm.GVIIRWbSbidOtXZj7vD3vxK1H0ts5yv_PMHxMA6wPYYv4zQ5WtT1X wuXbP1qnuN1a1UHHsTitVIVHkAkxudDaWFM8i3ztKYBlVSlMwdC2DOUvT39zm9xe0kauxxtUH9Ji 6VD7Hl8hUsX0Khjb_2I.vwF1iCpEgp_cQxoL0CJOb_m_jezUx3krb8krGPJFPgmlnkhcSO_v9aOT m6K1uBo8T848Gh_LprMqNXrXCUE19QMIGX7dPkD4odXXsJP_USKWv0TtXyPhghqe0kAokE.NLw8K .n6F7JXm2Zy3R0LXRSLft5vUs0DZZbHnKTkZx4JVX2qcYIyb3FpC4obGSeNn0LKaNHhI- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic310.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:01 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.25]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp421.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 707969d27aaedf208353d0a091c93399; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:21:57 -0800 Cc: Michael Tuexen , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> To: Dennis Clarke , Justin Hibbits X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6851988A90 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.39)[0.394,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[125.135.6.74.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(0.74)[ip: (-0.04), ipnet: 74.6.128.0/21(2.12), asn: 26101(1.70), country: US(-0.10)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26101, ipnet:74.6.128.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:09 -0000 On 2018-Nov-17, at 14:51, Dennis Clarke = wrote: > On 11/17/18 4:04 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote: >>> . . . >=20 >> As I reported earlier: >> Disabling SMP with head gives a system behaving nicely. Enabling SMP = and >> reverting r334498 gives me a usable system, with two limitation I = observed >> so far: >=20 > Hold on .. you say "head" and I can only assume that means some = current > dev rev hiding somewhere. As stands 12.x has picked up Justin's change . . . stable/12 picked up the -r334498 from head: = https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/12/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h?vi= ew=3Dlog shows: Revision 339434 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (4 weeks, 1 day ago) by gjb=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 334498 Copy head@r339432 to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle. Additional post-branch commits will follow. Approved by: re (implicit) Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation Revision 334498 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Jun 1 21:37:20 2018 UTC (5 months, 2 weeks ago) by jhibbits=20= Original Path: head/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 331900 Increase powerpc64 KVA from ~7.25GB to 32GB This will let us use much more KVA for ZFS ARC where needed. This may = be incresed in the future if memory requirements increase. Discussed with: nwhitehorn In turn the releng sequence later picked up the above as well: = https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/12.0/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h?= view=3Dlog shows: Revision 340470 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Nov 16 00:00:59 2018 UTC (2 days ago) by gjb=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 339434 - Copy stable/12@r340462 to releng/12.0 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle. - Prune svn:mergeinfo from the new branch. - Update from BETA4 to RC1. Approved by: re (implicit) Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation Revision 339434 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (4 weeks, 2 days ago) by gjb=20 Original Path: stable/12/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 334498 Copy head@r339432 to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle. Additional post-branch commits will follow. Approved by: re (implicit) Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation Revision 334498 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Jun 1 21:37:20 2018 UTC (5 months, 2 weeks ago) by jhibbits=20= Original Path: head/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 331900 Increase powerpc64 KVA from ~7.25GB to 32GB This will let us use much more KVA for ZFS ARC where needed. This may = be incresed in the future if memory requirements increase. Discussed with: nwhitehorn > I know that in the Apache world I build from > trunk just fine as they like to say "trunk" whereas here in FreeBSD = land > the word seems to be "head". Wherefore is this wonderful fountain of > code? :-) I am more than happy ( delighted in fact ) to fetch = sources > and build and test and figure out bits needed. Certainly on not_x86. >=20 >> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0 >> gets them down again. After a while they will start to get >> louder again. >=20 > Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here. >=20 >> 2. When shutting down the system, >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufdaemon' to stop... >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-1' to = stop... >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-0' to = stop... >> times out. >> Best regards >> Michael >=20 > Thank you for the input and help here. I think that perhaps ppc64 = could > and even should be up in tier-1 given that state of IBM servers these > days but some effort and support is merely needed. >=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)