From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 4 01:05:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB4AEDA676 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2018 01:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1638845FA for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2018 01:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1ei8jy-00032a-88; Sun, 04 Feb 2018 02:05:06 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1410dDP006706 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2018 02:00:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w1410dr9006705 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Feb 2018 02:00:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: Response to Meltdown and Spectre Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 01:00:39 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <23154.11945.856955.523027@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <5A726B60.7040606@gmail.com> <92120E50-19A7-4A44-90DF-505243D77259@kreme.com> <044e62f7-69ca-71fe-34a8-5c5cafc06f08@yahoo.com> <0520dd84-c00c-fbf2-da1c-f6ff4c63739d@yahoo.com> <20180203224612.GA10517@milliways.localdomain> <51178.108.68.160.114.1517699531.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 01:05:08 -0000 On 2018-02-03, "Valeri Galtsev" wrote: > With all due respect, one person saying, it didn't affect me, doesn't > prove it is not disastrous for somebody else. Even if it is one machine > out of thousand that is "bricked" for some time, it is a disaster for > sysadmin who has that machine as a production server Of course, but who at all is saying that Intel's microcode updates have "bricked" any machines? This appears to be an entirely spurious claim, based on nothing other than grievous exaggeration that turns "higher system reboots" into "bricked". You guys are talking each other into a frenzy of fear over nothing. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de