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Why would sysctl and smartctl report different temperatures? Smartctl is
reporting 30C and sysctl is showing 40.1C.

#! /usr/bin/env bash

TP=3D$(/usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada0 | grep Temp | awk -F " " '{pri=
ntf "%d",$10}')

printf "%s\n\n" "${TP}"

TP2=3D$(/sbin/sysctl -a | grep -i hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature | awk '{p=
rint substr($2,0,5)}')

printf "%s\n\n" "${TP2}"

exit

Both temperatures are in Celsius.

--=20
Carmel

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Because these temperatures are measured in different places - in hdd 
(most possibly on it's controller board but could be inside a mechanics) 
and somewhere near the processor on the motherboard. Also, the sensors 
are not so precise.


On 11/05/18 01:24, Carmel NY wrote:
> Why would sysctl and smartctl report different temperatures? Smartctl is
> reporting 30C and sysctl is showing 40.1C.
>
> #! /usr/bin/env bash
>
> TP=$(/usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada0 | grep Temp | awk -F " " '{printf "%d",$10}')
>
> printf "%s\n\n" "${TP}"
>
> TP2=$(/sbin/sysctl -a | grep -i hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature | awk '{print substr($2,0,5)}')
>
> printf "%s\n\n" "${TP2}"
>
> exit
>
> Both temperatures are in Celsius.
>


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hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature is usually the sensor of the CPU.

See ACPI_THERMAL(4)
"For example, each CPU and the enclosure could all be separate thermal =
zones, each with its ownsetpoints and cooling devices."

Smartctl uses the sensor inside the hard disk.

Regards,
Philipp

> On 4. Nov 2018, at 18:24, Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote:
>=20
> Why would sysctl and smartctl report different temperatures? Smartctl =
is
> reporting 30C and sysctl is showing 40.1C.
>=20
> #! /usr/bin/env bash
>=20
> TP=3D$(/usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada0 | grep Temp | awk -F " " =
'{printf "%d",$10}')
>=20
> printf "%s\n\n" "${TP}"
>=20
> TP2=3D$(/sbin/sysctl -a | grep -i hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature | =
awk '{print substr($2,0,5)}')
>=20
> printf "%s\n\n" "${TP2}"
>=20
> exit
>=20
> Both temperatures are in Celsius.
>=20
> --=20
> Carmel
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On 11/4/18 6:24 PM, Carmel NY wrote:
> Why would sysctl and smartctl report different temperatures?

I guess because one reports the temperature of the Hard Disk and the 
other that of the MotherBoard.

  bye
	av.

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you might be able to update wine to have hardware compatibilty, but what
you essentially have to do is install windows under Virtualbox and then
access it via WINE and then start dynamically translating windows calls
into linux driver calls.

SO you start accessing virtualbox from wine in user space, and then you
route WINE like this.

Linux userspace-linuxdrivers-bypassing virtualbox and then you have it,
you've got the ability to debug windows drivers all day long.

then you can for sure write wine compatible drivers.

its a similar thing for Macintosh as well. if you want to include a
macintosh and android version of wine so we can dev on phones you can do it
in android via the android emulator.

it should work like this.

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I want to find the execution context of each process by looking at it proc
struct <https://people.freebsd.org/~meganm/data/tutorials/ddwg/ddwg63.html>.
There is a solution
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25253231/context-of-linux-kernel-threads>
in Linux which solve this by looking at thread_struct->sp(kernel stack
pointer).

Is there a similar solution or even better to finding process execution
context?

P.S.: I'm really sorry if this question is "how to" and if not considering
as technical one. I'm really sticking to this and not found any solutions.
I'm really appreciated if you guide me.

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On 04/11/2018 17:35, thor wrote:
> Also, the sensors are not so precise.

Very true. I've got one machine (a small Zotac box) that reports the CPU
temperature as ~14 degrees below the ambient room temperature, which is
impossible.

-- 
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FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 / amd64

I am running "openssl-1.0.2p_1,1" from ports. How can I tell if "FIPS" is
enabled? If it isn't, how do I enable it?

Thanks

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Carmel

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Subject: Boot halts at trying to mount root
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Greetings,

	I would have posted this on the forum but the captcha is not
screen-reader friendly. I couldn't get registered.

	I'm upgrading from 11.0 to 11.1. I did installkernel, installworld,
mergemaster and rebooted. The kernel loads but when it gets to "trying
to mount root ufs:/dev/gpt/HoD_Root [rw]" it stops. There is no error
message.

	I used a rescue thumb drive and fsck the partition and it is clean. I
tried booting with the 11.0 kernel with the same results.

	Does anyone have any suggestions or solutions? I have searched this
list's archive and the forum but can't find an issue similar enough for
me to solve the problem.

With thanks,
David Gerry
Boston, Massachusetts


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Dear Colleagues, 

What is the actual mtree exclude-file format? I'm trying to exclude 
/dev from the specification "mtree -p / -c -X /tmp/2", no matter what 
I put into /tmp/2, the "/dev" directory is still in the specification.

I've tried "/dev" and "./dev" and "dev/" and whatever with the same 
disappointing result: the "/dev" directory is still there.

What am I doing wrong?

-- 
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On 05/11/2018 17:21, David K. Gerry wrote:
> 	I'm upgrading from 11.0 to 11.1. I did installkernel, installworld,
> mergemaster and rebooted. The kernel loads but when it gets to "trying
> to mount root ufs:/dev/gpt/HoD_Root [rw]" it stops. There is no error
> message.

Does /dev/gpt/HoD_Root exist after you've booted via your thumb drive? 
Is the root partition there but under a different label perhaps?

What does 'gpart show -l ada0' tell you?  (Replace 'ada0' for whatever 
device name is correct for your boot drive)

	Cheers,

	Matthew



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Dear David
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:24 PM David K. Gerry <david.k.gerry@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>         I would have posted this on the forum but the captcha is not
> screen-reader friendly. I couldn't get registered.
>
>         I'm upgrading from 11.0 to 11.1. I did installkernel, installworl=
d,
> mergemaster and rebooted. The kernel loads but when it gets to "trying
> to mount root ufs:/dev/gpt/HoD_Root [rw]" it stops. There is no error
> message.
>
>         I used a rescue thumb drive and fsck the partition and it is
> clean. I
> tried booting with the 11.0 kernel with the same results.
>
>         Does anyone have any suggestions or solutions? I have searched th=
is
> list's archive and the forum but can't find an issue similar enough for
> me to solve the problem.
>
> With thanks,
> David Gerry
> Boston, Massachusetts
>
>
May I suggest you to boot with the older kernel (type 5 and the kernel.old
is automatically choose). This will put your system in working state and
then, you can try to found where the problem is.

My bad experience was when I moved from 11.1 to 11.2: nvidia binary driver
is the culprit. I fixed making it using ports.

My best wishes

Eduardo

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On 11/5/2018 12:37 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Does /dev/gpt/HoD_Root exist after you've booted via your thumb drive?

Yes, that's how I was able to run fsck on the partition.

> Is the root partition there but under a different label perhaps?

The root partition is correctly labeled I was able to mount it on the
thumb drive and verify.
> 
> What does 'gpart show -l ada0' tell you?  (Replace 'ada0' for whatever
> device name is correct for your boot drive)

I'll have to check the results of part show when I have a sighted person
to assist me.

> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     Matthew
> 
David Gerry
Boston, Massachusetts


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Greetings Eduardo,


On 11/5/2018 12:40 PM, Eduardo Lemos de Sa wrote:
> May I suggest you to boot with the older kernel (type 5 and the kernel.old
> is automatically choose). This will put your system in working state and
> then, you can try to found where the problem is.

I don't know what kernel type 5 is but I did edit /boot/loader.conf and
set kernel="kernel.old" which did boot the 11.0 kernel. However the
booting process halted at the same place.

> 
> My bad experience was when I moved from 11.1 to 11.2: nvidia binary driver
> is the culprit. I fixed making it using ports.
> 
> My best wishes
> 
> Eduardo

David Gerry
Boston, Massachusetts


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Hi Victor,

./dev works for me

# cat ignore.mtree=20
./dev

then mtree -p / -c -X ignore.mtree > mtree.test

Regards,
Philipp


> On 5. Nov 2018, at 18:05, Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su> wrote:
>=20
> Dear Colleagues,=20
> What is the actual mtree exclude-file format? I'm trying to exclude =
/dev from the specification "mtree -p / -c -X /tmp/2", no matter what I =
put into /tmp/2, the "/dev" directory is still in the specification.
>=20
> I've tried "/dev" and "./dev" and "dev/" and whatever with the same =
disappointing result: the "/dev" directory is still there.
>=20
> What am I doing wrong?
>=20
> --=20
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Hi Matthew,

On 11/5/2018 12:37 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> 
> What does 'gpart show -l ada0' tell you?  (Replace 'ada0' for whatever

gpart show -l ada0 looks normal.
what would happen if I ran
gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/boot0
Will I lose access to the files?
The rescue disk is running 9.1. I can use the boot0 from FBSD 11.1 but
gpart is going to be 9.1. The disk partitions were originally created
with this rescue/instal disk.

David Gerry
Boston, Massachusetts

> device name is correct for your boot drive)
> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     Matthew

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I don't have the option to enter the partition information. The system
just stops and the keyboard does nothing. If the system is going into
multi-user mode instead of single-user mode I do see it trying to
initialize the network interface with
re0 link state down
re0 link state up
and I can see on the router the network interface is connected and its
aliases.

David Gerry
Boston, Massachusetts



On 11/5/2018 7:08 PM, Dennis Glatting wrote:
> 
> I have this problem too. When boot fails, entering ufs:/dev/da0p3 works
> as expected.

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I have this problem too. When boot fails, entering ufs:/dev/da0p3 works as 
expected.



On Mon, 5 Nov 2018, David K. Gerry wrote:

> Hi Matthew,
>
> On 11/5/2018 12:37 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>>
>> What does 'gpart show -l ada0' tell you?  (Replace 'ada0' for whatever
>
> gpart show -l ada0 looks normal.
> what would happen if I ran
> gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/boot0
> Will I lose access to the files?
> The rescue disk is running 9.1. I can use the boot0 from FBSD 11.1 but
> gpart is going to be 9.1. The disk partitions were originally created
> with this rescue/instal disk.
>
> David Gerry
> Boston, Massachusetts
>
>> device name is correct for your boot drive)
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Matthew
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Philipp Vlassakakis wrote:
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>./dev works for me
>
># cat ignore.mtree
>./dev
>
>then mtree -p / -c -X ignore.mtree > mtree.test

Thanks, Philipp, it looks like a directory should start with a "./" and have no 
trailing slash to be ignored.


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On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 09:48:57 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> Philipp Vlassakakis wrote:
> >
> >./dev works for me
> >
> ># cat ignore.mtree
> >./dev
> >
> >then mtree -p / -c -X ignore.mtree > mtree.test
> 
> Thanks, Philipp, it looks like a directory should start with a "./" and have no 
> trailing slash to be ignored.

Correct. Check "man mtree" for the -X option:

	If the pattern contains a `/' character, it will be
	matched against entire pathnames (relative to the
	starting directory); otherwise, it will be matched
	against basenames only.

Also see "man 3 fnmatch" which discusses the specific
interpretation of "/" and "*" which applies to the
exclude list.


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(I've asked this question on the OPNsense board first, see
https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=9828.0)

I've set up a PC engines based GW which is running an LTE connection as
WAN interface. So far everything works fine, connection is up and seems
stable so far.

Due to my location and frequency bands used here in Asia, I got a Sierra
Wireless MC7430 mPCIe card.

Specs:

https://source.sierrawireless.com/~/media/support_downloads/airprime/74xx/4116237_airprime_mc7430_product_technical_specification_r8.ashx

AT command reference:

https://www.sierrawireless.com/resources/documents/mp/2130309_mp7xx_at_command_reference.pdf

The card works fine, however as soon as OPNsense takes care of the ppp
connection via MPD I cannot send any other AT commands to the card. What
I would like to have is some kind of "stats" interface where I can get
things back like LTE network configuration, frequencies used, signal
level etc.

For my card the AT interface is on /dev/cuaU0.2, all other interfaces do
not return anything on AT commands. And /dev/cuaU0.2 is busy as soon as
the connection is up.

Anyone has an idea how to do that for this particular card?

thanks

regards

Adrian


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Polytropon wrote:
>On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 09:48:57 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote:
>> Philipp Vlassakakis wrote:
>> >
>> >./dev works for me
>> >
>> ># cat ignore.mtree
>> >./dev
>> >
>> >then mtree -p / -c -X ignore.mtree > mtree.test
>>
>> Thanks, Philipp, it looks like a directory should start with a "./" and have no
>> trailing slash to be ignored.
>
>Correct. Check "man mtree" for the -X option:
>
>	If the pattern contains a `/' character, it will be
>	matched against entire pathnames (relative to the
>	starting directory); 


So, even if "-p /" is an absolute path, the exclude-file must contain 
a relative path? A bit contra-intuitive, but I can live with that.


> otherwise, it will be matched
>	against basenames only.
>
>Also see "man 3 fnmatch" which discusses the specific
>interpretation of "/" and "*" which applies to the
>exclude list.

Beats me. Can you perhaps quote the relevant part? I still don't 
understand why "./dev/" and "dev/" do not exclude /dev

-- 
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Dear Beasties,

I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put it in
a UNAVAIL status. I shut down the server and took it apart, cleaned it and
removed a third device that was on Sata Port C which I think may have been
the culprit of the bus fault. This third disk was unrelated to the pool and
was an older disk which just had some backup data and was running on an old
enclosure with the SATA wires hanging out, etc. you know, those 5 minute
hacks that you forget about..

After rebooting, the BIOS saw the failed device and the system booted fine.
I ran a smartctl long test on the failed device which took like 7 hours and
the report shows no errors and the device is like new.

So now I want to tell ZFS to re-attach the device but the documentation is
not too clear about this. All the docs, and example I find is physically
replacing with another device, not the same one.

My question is almost identical to this one which has not been answered
either:

https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/re-attaching-failed-device-to-pool.66027/

So: can I re-attach by running the replace command on the SAME device? I
haven't tried it, but from the question above it seems that it won't let
me. Besides I don't want to screw up so if anyone has done this before pls.
advise how to proceed in these cases.

TIA!
-- 
Alex

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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:50 AM Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> wrote:

> Dear Beasties,
>
> I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put it in
> a UNAVAIL status. I shut down the server and took it apart, cleaned it and
> removed a third device that was on Sata Port C which I think may have been
> the culprit of the bus fault. This third disk was unrelated to the pool and
> was an older disk which just had some backup data and was running on an old
> enclosure with the SATA wires hanging out, etc. you know, those 5 minute
> hacks that you forget about..
>
> After rebooting, the BIOS saw the failed device and the system booted
> fine. I ran a smartctl long test on the failed device which took like 7
> hours and the report shows no errors and the device is like new.
>
> So now I want to tell ZFS to re-attach the device but the documentation is
> not too clear about this. All the docs, and example I find is physically
> replacing with another device, not the same one.
>
> My question is almost identical to this one which has not been answered
> either:
>
>
> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/re-attaching-failed-device-to-pool.66027/
>
> So: can I re-attach by running the replace command on the SAME device? I
> haven't tried it, but from the question above it seems that it won't let
> me. Besides I don't want to screw up so if anyone has done this before pls.
> advise how to proceed in these cases.
>
> TIA!
> --
> Alex
>
>
>
I forgot to mention I ran zpool clear zroot and it ran the scrub but did
not put the disk back ONLINE. Here is the result:

root@poseidon:~ # zpool status -v
  pool: zroot
 state: DEGRADED
status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing
or
        invalid.  Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue
        functioning in a degraded state.
action: Replace the device using 'zpool replace'.
   see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-4J
  scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h8m with 0 errors on Tue Nov  6 05:27:20 2018
config:

        NAME                               STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        zroot                              DEGRADED     0     0     0
          mirror-0                         DEGRADED     0     0     0
            5540674508897617692            UNAVAIL      0     0     0  was
/dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2
            diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3  ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors

Again, TIA for any pointers on how to re-attach the failed disk.

-- 
Alex

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Hi Alex,

Did you try =E2=80=9Ezpool online zroot NAME-OF-DEGRADED-DISK=E2=80=9C and =E2=
=80=9Ezpool zroot clear=E2=80=9C ?

Regards,
Philipp

> On 6. Nov 2018, at 14:53, Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> wrote:
>=20
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:50 AM Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> Dear Beasties,
>>=20
>> I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put it i=
n
>> a UNAVAIL status. I shut down the server and took it apart, cleaned it an=
d
>> removed a third device that was on Sata Port C which I think may have bee=
n
>> the culprit of the bus fault. This third disk was unrelated to the pool a=
nd
>> was an older disk which just had some backup data and was running on an o=
ld
>> enclosure with the SATA wires hanging out, etc. you know, those 5 minute
>> hacks that you forget about..
>>=20
>> After rebooting, the BIOS saw the failed device and the system booted
>> fine. I ran a smartctl long test on the failed device which took like 7
>> hours and the report shows no errors and the device is like new.
>>=20
>> So now I want to tell ZFS to re-attach the device but the documentation i=
s
>> not too clear about this. All the docs, and example I find is physically
>> replacing with another device, not the same one.
>>=20
>> My question is almost identical to this one which has not been answered
>> either:
>>=20
>>=20
>> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/re-attaching-failed-device-to-pool.660=
27/
>>=20
>> So: can I re-attach by running the replace command on the SAME device? I
>> haven't tried it, but from the question above it seems that it won't let
>> me. Besides I don't want to screw up so if anyone has done this before pl=
s.
>> advise how to proceed in these cases.
>>=20
>> TIA!
>> --
>> Alex
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
> I forgot to mention I ran zpool clear zroot and it ran the scrub but did
> not put the disk back ONLINE. Here is the result:
>=20
> root@poseidon:~ # zpool status -v
>  pool: zroot
> state: DEGRADED
> status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing=

> or
>        invalid.  Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue
>        functioning in a degraded state.
> action: Replace the device using 'zpool replace'.
>   see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-4J
>  scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h8m with 0 errors on Tue Nov  6 05:27:20 2018
> config:
>=20
>        NAME                               STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>        zroot                              DEGRADED     0     0     0
>          mirror-0                         DEGRADED     0     0     0
>            5540674508897617692            UNAVAIL      0     0     0  was
> /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2
>            diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3  ONLINE       0     0     0
>=20
> errors: No known data errors
>=20
> Again, TIA for any pointers on how to re-attach the failed disk.
>=20
> --=20
> Alex
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Hello,

The FreeBSD handbook claims that freebsd-update(8) will leave custom
kernels alone, and that if using a custom kernel it will update
/boot/GENERIC to the release kernel if it exists. It also hints
that it uses this /boot/GENERIC for upgrades between releases,
allowing you to install your custom kernel post-upgrade after you
will have rebuilt it.

This is not what's happening at all, instead freebsd-update(8) is
trashing custom kernels without warning. There have been several
threads about this on the mailing list. The only conclusion I have
been able to draw from them is that the handbook is out of date.
Apparently the current, undocumented behavior dates back at least
six years.

So, is it possible to track -RELEASE using freebsd-update(8) and
still use custom kernels? Of course I can remove "kernel" from
"Components" in freebsd-update.conf and then freebsd-update(8) won't
overwrite my kernel, but I would imagine I won't be able to upgrade
between releases that way, since freebsd-update(8) will not provide
an intermediary newer n+1 GENERIC kernel to boot the new n+1 release.

What's the solution here? Is there one?

Thanks,

--=20
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On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 05:01:54PM +0100, Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> The FreeBSD handbook claims that freebsd-update(8) will leave custom
> kernels alone, and that if using a custom kernel it will update
> /boot/GENERIC to the release kernel if it exists. It also hints
> that it uses this /boot/GENERIC for upgrades between releases,
> allowing you to install your custom kernel post-upgrade after you
> will have rebuilt it.
>=20
> This is not what's happening at all, instead freebsd-update(8) is
> trashing custom kernels without warning. There have been several
> threads about this on the mailing list. The only conclusion I have
> been able to draw from them is that the handbook is out of date.
> Apparently the current, undocumented behavior dates back at least
> six years.
>=20
> So, is it possible to track -RELEASE using freebsd-update(8) and
> still use custom kernels? Of course I can remove "kernel" from
> "Components" in freebsd-update.conf and then freebsd-update(8) won't
> overwrite my kernel, but I would imagine I won't be able to upgrade
> between releases that way, since freebsd-update(8) will not provide
> an intermediary newer n+1 GENERIC kernel to boot the new n+1 release.
>=20
> What's the solution here? Is there one?

I usually use:
$> freebsd-update fetch
$> freebsd-update install
$> make kernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL
$> reboot

>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
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Hi,

When I write a large amount of data (>RAM) to a slow disk attached to my
FreeBSD 11.2-p3 NFS server all I/O to the disk (even local) is stalled
for minutes at a time until the paging daemon makes a pass. 

When writing such a large file locally, memory pressure also occurs but
the paging daemon keeps scanning and freeing continuously.

vmstat -w1 output of both such an NFS transfer and a local write below.

What's going on here?

Sijmen


=== 2 GB NFS WRITE ===

r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
0 0 0 185M  693M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0   0   18   113    81  0  0 100
0 0 0 185M  693M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0   0   17   113    81  0  1 99
0 0 0 185M  790M     0   0   0   0 30216    6   0 159 5267   113 14874  0 36 64
1 0 0 185M  767M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 184 6224   119 17730  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M  745M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 181 6325   113 17927  0 42 58
1 0 0 185M  724M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 159 6329   113 17685  0 36 64
0 0 0 185M  709M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 122 4656   113 12930  0 21 79
1 0 0 185M  697M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 185 4019   113 11055  0 20 80
1 0 0 185M  675M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 172 6628   119 18596  0 37 63
1 0 0 185M  653M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 177 6121   116 17800  0 38 62
1 0 0 185M  633M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 150 4850   113 14384  0 34 66
0 0 0 185M  611M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 177 6764   113 18943  0 38 62
0 0 0 185M  599M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 173 3407   114  9902  0 22 78
1 0 0 185M  583M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 143 4190   119 12275  0 15 85
1 0 0 185M  565M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 134 4825   113 13942  0 27 73
1 0 0 185M  545M     0   0   0   0     0    6   5 165 6065   113 17006  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M  531M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 108 4604   113 12578  1 25 74
1 0 0 185M  516M     0   0   0   0   168    6   0 203 4851   113 13527  0 23 77
0 0 0 185M  496M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 156 5053   119 14876  0 33 67
1 0 0 185M  479M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 137 4925   113 14130  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M  465M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 110 3980   113 11438  0 21 79
1 0 0 185M  451M     0   0   0   0     8    6   1 169 3690   113 10736  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M  432M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 148 4999   113 14657  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M  415M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 133 4549   119 13131  0 22 78
1 0 0 185M  395M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 165 5195   113 15377  0 29 71
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
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1 0 0 185M  379M     0   0   0   0     0   12   0 170 4413   115 12742  0 23 77
1 0 0 185M  363M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 163 4913   113 13802  0 27 73
1 0 0 185M  343M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 163 5704   113 16277  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M  320M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 177 7410   119 20264  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M  306M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 179 4448   113 12544  0 23 77
1 0 0 185M  286M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 161 5482   113 15733  0 29 71
0 0 0 185M  267M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 139 6092   113 16693  0 40 60
1 0 0 185M  246M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 176 6475   119 18258  0 38 62
1 0 0 185M  232M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 176 4447   113 12411  0 24 76
0 0 0 185M  216M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 125 4895   113 13750  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M  199M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 133 4075   113 12250  0 30 70
0 0 0 185M  180M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 139 4639   113 13913  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M  167M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 108 3017   119  9059  0 24 76
1 0 0 185M  162M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0  47 1244   113  3856  0 16 84
1 0 0 185M  150M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 176 3042   116  8751  0 24 76
1 0 0 185M  132M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 150 5259   113 15073  0 37 63
0 0 0 185M  110M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 166 5979   113 17094  0 40 60
1 0 0 185M   96M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 112 3923   120 11285  0 24 76
2 0 0 185M   84M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 153 3730   113 10478  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M   64M     0   0   0   0     0    6   9 160 5786   113 16498  1 39 60
1 0 0 185M   47M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 135 5089   113 14363  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M   27M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 153 5863   114 16437  0 30 70
0 0 0 185M   12M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 166 4388   119 12533  0 21 79
1 0 0 185M  8.6M     0 171   0   0  3577 3581   0 172 4973   113 14227  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  7095 7106   0 142 5010   113 14379  0 38 62
1 0 0 185M  9.9M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 176 7739   113 20894  0 35 65
0 0 0 185M  7.7M     0   0   0   0  3549 3553   0 165 4882   113 13633  0 32 68
1 0 0 194M   14M   693   0  27   0  7194 7108  45 171 6492   764 17751  1 40 60
1 0 0 194M  8.8M    81   0   0   0  3546 3552   0 149 5718   127 15990  0 38 62
1 0 0 185M   18M    52   0   0   0  7635 7108   2 165 6453   175 17924  0 33 67
0 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 157 4050   113 11695  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M   12M     0   0   0   0  3576 3559   0 186 5395   113 15326  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  7097 7043   0 155 5046   119 14892  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M   13M     0   0   0   0  3555 3552   1 166 6733   123 18475  0 38 62
0 0 0 185M   13M     0   0   0   0  3549 3554   0 167 4390   113 12292  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M   10M     0   0   0   0  3560 3559   0 140 4830   113 13601  0 18 82
1 0 0 185M  8.3M     0   0   0   0  3552 3558   0 122 4864   113 13598  0 24 76
0 0 0 185M  7.0M     0   0   0   0  3552 3559   0 122 6095   119 15927  0 23 77
1 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  7104 7116   0 151 6270   113 17106  1 32 67
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 185M  8.6M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 131 2085   115  5999  0 13 87
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  7120 7111   0 175 5725   113 16732  0 33 67
1 0 0 185M  8.6M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 159 5678   113 16201  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7104 7085   0 154 5627   119 15754  0 22 78
1 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  3569 3550   0 189 3638   113 10382  0 23 77
1 0 0 185M   10M     0   0   0   0  3548 3555   0 175 5039   116 15075  0 43 57
1 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  7104 7115   0 140 4805   113 13753  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 161 7209   113 19426  0 38 62
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 176 5632   120 14626  0 22 78
1 0 0 185M  9.2M     0   0   0   0  3560 3560   0 159 6185   113 17012  0 32 68
0 0 0 185M  8.2M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 112 4000   113 11623  0 32 68
0 0 0 185M   19M     0   0   0   0  7104 7117   0 133 5116   113 14320  0 22 78
0 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 115 3820   113 11399  1 27 72
0 0 0 185M   10M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 136 2084   119  5948  0 12 88
1 0 0 185M   19M     0   0   0   0  7128 6990   0 175 6408   113 17448  0 29 71
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 136 5663   113 15647  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M   12M     0   0   0   0  3552 3559  13 141 6497   113 17290  0 33 67
1 0 0 185M  8.4M     0   0   0   0  3549 3553   0 132 5125   113 14359  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M  8.3M     0   0   0   0  3556 3554   0 190 5281   119 13959  1 27 73
1 0 0 185M  8.4M     0   0   0   0  3546 3553   1 109 4840   113 13053  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  7104 7117   0 146 5152   113 14566  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 147 5826   113 16111  0 30 70
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 163 4477   113 12164  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   12M     0   0   0   0  3584 3560   0 174 5637   120 15512  0 28 72
0 0 0 185M   19M     0   0   0   0  7104 7031   0 167 6171   113 17254  0 34 66
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0  34 1208   113  3526  0  7 93
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 129  227   113   761  0  3 97
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  328   113  1095  0  3 97
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 196  317   119  1078  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 205  330   113  1099  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  328   113  1098  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  323   113  1083  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 167  278   113   934  0  6 94
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 177  287   119   963  0  3 97
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 122  200   116   697  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 182  295   113   986  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  323   113  1085  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  326   114  1089  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  321   119  1078  0  2 98
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
2 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 199  319   115  1080  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 144  245   113   825  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 150  255   114   852  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  324   113  1089  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  322   119  1087  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  323   113  1089  0  8 92
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 199  325   113  1086  0  1 99
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  320   113  1085  0  2 98
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 124  227   113   781  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 207  346   119  1150  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 184  307   113  1019  0  1 99
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 196  325   113  1079  0  5 95
1 0 0 194M   13M   693   0   0   0    89    6   0 202  332   757  1117  0  4 96
1 0 0 194M   12M    83   0   0   0     8    6   0 201  330   137  1112  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M   417   0   4   0   825    6   9 200  347   547  1159  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 196  314   113  1058  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 179  300   113  1000  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 141  241   113   812  0  3 97
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 209  354   119  1173  0  7 93
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 204  334   113  1116  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  318   113  1074  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 199  316   113  1079  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  320   113  1082  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  324   119  1099  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  323   113  1087  0  5 95
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 192  317   116  1074  0  5 95
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 197  322   113  1088  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 127  205   113   709  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  313   120  1067  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 203  332   113  1117  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  325   113  1092  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  319   113  1080  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  321   113  1087  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 192  308   119  1048  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 204  338   113  1120  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   1 204  325   113  1104  0  6 94
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 186  317   113  1047  0  7 93
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 214  346   113  1166  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 199  329   119  1103  0  3 97
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  325   115  1093  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  339   113  1118  0  6 94
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6  15 200  328   113  1086  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  323   113  1091  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  326   119  1094  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   1 197  325   113  1089  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   1 203  326   113  1101  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0   12   0 200  330   113  1112  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  321   113  1075  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  326   119  1097  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  327   113  1101  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  320   113  1085  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  329   113  1103  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 150  242   113   828  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 203  328   119  1099  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  311   116  1059  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  322   113  1088  0  4 96
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 146  249   113   859  1  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 183  304   114  1004  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 131  223   119   764  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 207  341   113  1139  0  3 97
2 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  319   113  1082  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  329   114  1097  0  6 94
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  324   113  1081  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  328   119  1092  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  326   113  1095  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 188  313   113  1059  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 151  268   113   896  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 219  355   113  1191  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 189  311   119  1044  1  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 212  339   113  1132  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 194  329   113  1092  0  5 95
2 0 0 194M   13M   669   0   0   0    89    6   0 185  300   755  1015  2  5 94
1 0 0 194M   12M   108   0   0   0     0    6   0 216  361   131  1213  1  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M    60   0   0   0   544    6   0 194  328   190  1099  0  6 94
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 205  341   113  1131  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  324   113  1082  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  327   113  1102  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  323   113  1079  0  3 97
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 135  245   121   816  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 206  337   113  1120  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  340   113  1125  1  3 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 190  321   113  1066  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 209  340   113  1146  0  5 95
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 153  257   119   869  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 194  324   116  1082  0  1 99
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 194  313   113  1051  0  2 98
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 191  312   113  1054  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 205  344   114  1129  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  326   119  1098  0  0 100
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 194  320   113  1084  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 129  219   113   738  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 214  382   113  1279  0  2 98
2 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 195  321   119  1066  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 205  332   113  1114  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 142  228   113   790  0  4 96
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0   12   0 162  282   113   957  0  1 99
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 145  242   113   818  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 195  332   119  1102  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 206  326   113  1108  0  3 97
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  351   113  1147  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6  13 150  254   113   847  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 195  333   113  1106  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 149  247   119   833  0  3 97
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   1 201  327   113  1118  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  330   113  1108  1  2 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  328   113  1102  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 196  308   113  1045  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 202  320   119  1087  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 202  331   113  1105  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 144  240   113   816  0  1 99
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 204  331   113  1100  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 207  332   113  1117  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 201  335   119  1104  1  3 96
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 137  230   116   782  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 205  334   113  1120  0  7 93
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 189  311   113  1046  0  1 99
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 213  343   114  1159  0  1 99
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 196  313   121  1069  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 149  242   113   832  0  2 98
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 204  329   113  1232  0  5 95
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 202  336   114  1230  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 199  322   113  1195  0  1 99
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 196  324   119  1196  0  1 99
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 203  336   113  1239  0  2 98
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 181  301   113  1127  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 168  273   113  1021  0  4 96
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  326   113  1203  0  2 98
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 200  327   119  1209  0  3 97
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  337   113  1223  0  0 100
1 0 0 185M  805M     0   0   0   0 204764    6   0 134 2962   113  8116  0 23 77
0 0 0 185M  781M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 189 5550   113 16270  0 35 65
1 0 0 185M  764M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 122 5920   113 15700  0 20 80
0 0 0 185M  751M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0  94 4130   129 11380  0 15 85
1 0 0 185M  733M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 150 6376   113 16980  0 27 73
1 0 0 185M  715M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 146 4550   113 13495  0 36 64
1 0 0 185M  703M     0   0   0   0   128    6   0 201 3290   113  9471  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M  685M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 143 5023   113 14457  0 34 66
0 0 0 185M  668M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 136 4356   119 12937  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M  651M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 135 4311   113 12766  0 34 66
0 0 0 185M  638M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 166 3800   113 10717  0 27 73
0 0 0 185M  617M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 169 6790   113 18618  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M  598M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 155 5562   113 15897  0 22 78
1 0 0 185M  579M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 153 5652   119 15987  0 27 73
1 0 0 194M  565M   669   0   0   0    89    6   0  96 3612   758 10157  2 22 76
1 0 0 194M  548M   102   0   0   0     8    6   0 189 5379   129 14843  2 31 67
0 0 0 185M  530M    56   0   0   0   542    6   0 156 6011   176 16873  0 36 64
1 0 0 185M  512M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 143 5328   114 14996  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M  496M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 130 5059   119 14133  0 19 81
1 0 0 185M  490M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 146 2028   113  5674  0 17 83
1 0 0 185M  467M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 178 8175   113 21991  0 38 62
1 0 0 185M  447M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 156 6588   113 18076  0 25 75
1 0 0 185M  425M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 172 6434   113 18132  0 24 76
0 0 0 185M  409M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 178 4633   119 13306  0 33 67
0 0 0 185M  388M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 168 7495   113 20156  0 37 63
1 0 0 185M  367M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 158 6177   113 17393  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M  345M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 172 5444   113 16209  0 40 60
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
2 0 0 185M  327M     0   0   0   0     8   12   0 199 5553   115 15367  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M  309M     0   0   0   0    96    6   0 161 4358   119 13069  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M  295M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 106 3227   113  9676  0 23 77
2 0 0 185M  273M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 172 6435   113 18212  0 40 60
1 0 0 185M  259M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 178 4398   113 12316  0 33 67
2 0 0 185M  241M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 149 5096   113 14722  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M  220M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 157 5780   119 16484  0 33 67
0 0 0 185M  202M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 150 5558   113 15582  0 26 74
0 0 0 185M  189M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 183 3583   113 10375  0 26 74
0 0 0 185M  171M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 151 6028   113 16607  0 37 63
2 0 0 185M  152M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 151 6194   119 17016  0 27 73
1 0 0 185M  131M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 161 6855   113 18762  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M  120M     0   0   0   0    24    6   0 180 3529   113  9845  0 20 80
0 0 0 185M   97M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 180 7655   113 20837  0 36 64
1 0 0 185M   77M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 158 5571   113 15924  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M   69M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0  69 2201   119  6459  0 18 82
1 0 0 185M   55M     0   0   0   0     0    6  13 114 4474   116 12420  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M   37M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 193 5481   113 15189  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M   21M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 133 4471   113 13024  0 23 77
0 0 0 185M   16M     0  30   0   0  3549 3495   0 146 5632   113 15786  0 37 63
1 0 0 185M  9.9M     0   0   0   0  3547 3551   1 161 5531   120 15815  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  3572 3555   0 124 1629   113  4765  0 11 89
1 0 0 185M   13M     0   0   0   0  3549 3556   0 153 4967   113 14580  0 23 77
1 0 0 185M   11M     0   0   0   0  3552 3558   0 128 4782   113 13421  0 26 74
1 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  7104 7115   0 143 5743   114 15997  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 141 6007   119 16400  0 38 62
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  3576 3559   0 196 4808   113 13195  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M  8.3M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 166 6533   113 18116  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M   19M     0  33   0   0  7104 7137   0 142 5264   113 14784  0 32 68
0 0 0 185M   11M     0   0   0   0  3554 3550   0 168 7698   113 20555  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M   11M     0   0   0   0  3558 3557   0 195 4451   119 12421  0 32 68
0 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  7104 7114   0 150 4873   113 14266  0 25 75
1 0 0 185M   13M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 159 4882   113 14671  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M  7.4M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 153 5292   113 15430  0 35 65
1 0 0 185M  7.3M     0   0   0   0  3576 3560   0 207 4325   113 12065  0 20 80
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  7097 7106   1 160 5880   129 16663  0 47 53
1 0 0 185M  6.9M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 168 7255   113 19773  0 37 63
1 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7104 7114   0 142 6576   113 17433  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M  9.8M     0   0   0   0     8    6   0 132 2343   113  6568  0 15 85
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
2 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7099 6998   0 164 6669   115 18336  0 36 64
1 0 0 185M   10M     0   0   0   0  3548 3553   0 165 6011   119 16928  0 31 69
1 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7097 7105   0 166 5958   113 16904  0 40 60
1 0 0 185M   19M     0   0   0   0  3573 3556   0 181 2481   113  7869  0 15 85
0 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0  3552 3558   0 151 3931   113 12355  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M  9.7M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 137 3997   113 12233  0 29 71
0 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7104 7115   0 165 4781   119 14492  0 29 71
0 0 0 185M  8.7M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 143 2046   116  6195  0 14 86
0 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  7112 7111   0 129 5860   113 15714  0 31 69
0 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  3552 3468   0 147 6886   113 18143  0 30 70
0 0 0 185M   13M     0   0   0   0  3551 3557   0 133 4892   114 13815  0 30 70
0 0 0 185M  7.6M     0   0   0   0  3549 3554   0 155 5831   119 16350  0 36 64
1 0 0 185M  8.6M     0   0   0   0  3572 3553   0 183 2667   113  8421  0 21 79
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  7099 7111   0 166 5136   113 15355  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M  9.3M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 158 4326   113 13462  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  7104 7114   0 157 4033   113 12737  0 37 63
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  3576 3558   0 187 3438   119 10723  0 27 73
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0  3552 3559   0 126 4898   113 13664  0 26 74
1 0 0 194M  7.7M   670   0  27   0  3641 3557  46 139 4937   759 14211  0 33 67
1 0 0 194M   13M   106   0   0   0  3547 3552   0  63 2334   130  6662  2 14 84
1 0 0 185M  9.8M    52   0   0   0  4087 3536   2 151 5950   174 16635  1 27 72
1 0 0 185M  7.7M     0   0   0   0  3555 3554   0 202 4330   119 12538  0 17 83
1 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  7104 7114   0 157 5661   113 16158  0 32 68
0 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   8 107 4416   113 12025  0 25 75
1 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  3552 3561   0  99 3806   113 10588  0 17 83
1 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  3576 3557   0 187 5255   113 14359  0 26 74
0 0 0 185M   11M     0   0   0   0  3552 3558   0 155 5314   119 15344  0 34 66
1 0 0 185M  8.4M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 124 4360   113 12596  0 27 73
1 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  7104 7115   0 160 5914   113 16646  0 27 73
0 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  3552 3542   0 136 3938   113 11562  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  3560 3559   0 126 2496   113  7294  0 16 84
1 0 0 185M  9.5M     0   0   0   0     0    7   0  94 2996   119  8450  0 16 84
1 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7104 7112   0 158 6337   113 17511  0 28 72
1 0 0 185M   19M     0   0   0   0  3552 3559   0  88 3948   113 10910  0 22 78
0 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  3552 3559   0 114 4124   113 11433  0 20 80
1 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0  31  729   113  2397  0  9 91
0 0 0 185M   11M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0  81 1023   119  3301  0 11 89
1 0 0 185M   10M     0   0   0   0  3576 3556   0 137 3385   116 10420  0 22 78
1 0 0 185M   19M     0   0   0   0  7104 7114   0 143 4690   113 13858  0 24 76
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 185M   18M     0   0   0   0  3552 3529   0 127 5219   115 14271  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   14M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 138 4711   114 13613  0 30 70
0 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  3557 3557   0 175 3369   119  9408  0 24 76
0 0 0 185M   13M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 145 5127   113 14588  0 33 67
1 0 0 185M  9.4M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 139 4925   113 14105  0 32 68
1 0 0 185M  7.7M     0   0   0   0  3576 3557   0 132 5706   114 15291  0 27 73
0 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7104 7115   0 147 5817   113 16179  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  3576 3560   0 158 3231   119  9033  0 23 77
1 0 0 185M   15M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557  13 154 6170   113 17155  0 29 71
1 0 0 185M  9.7M     0   0   0   0  3552 3558   0 152 5908   113 16417  0 33 67
1 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  7102 7073   0 160 6372   113 17626  0 27 73
1 0 0 185M   20M     0   0   0   0  3569 3552   1 178 3637   113 10082  0 18 82
0 0 0 185M  8.9M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0  77 3271   119  9234  0 15 85
1 0 0 185M  8.0M     0   0   0   0  3552 3555   0 129 4843   113 13300  1 18 81
0 0 0 185M   16M     0   0   0   0  7104 7114   0 156 6118   113 17043  0 30 70
1 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0  3552 3557   0 180 3850   113 10979  0 19 81
1 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0     0    6   1 200  321   123  1087  0  3 97
0 0 0 185M   17M     0   0   0   0     0    6   0 198  332   119  1122  0  4 96


=== 2 GB LOCAL WRITE ===

procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 163M  801M     4   0   0   0     0    5   0   0   19   233   106  1  0 99
0 0 0 163M  801M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0   0   13   137    79  0  0 100
0 0 0 169M  778M   367   0   0   0    34    5   0 164  135   253   343  1  2 97
0 0 0 169M  752M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 197  175   165   420  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M  726M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 196  176   163   416  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M  700M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 208  186   165   439  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  674M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 201  195   165   470  1  4 95
0 0 0 169M  648M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 203  195   169   470  0  8 92
0 0 0 169M  623M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 200  216   170   515  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  597M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 200  204   163   486  0  5 95
1 0 0 169M  572M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 200  220   163   519  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  546M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 204  213   166   520  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M  521M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 200  177   169   432  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  495M     0   0   0   0     0    5   2 207  193   163   481  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M  470M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 190  159   161   400  0  2 98
0 0 0 179M  446M   677   0  26   0    97    5  41 166  192   800   503  1  3 96
0 0 0 179M  419M   106   0   0   0     0    6   0 208  178   183   452  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  395M    52   0   0   0   541    6   2 202  192   230   482  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M  376M     0   0   0   0   136    5   9 147  139   151   359  1  9 91
0 0 0 169M  349M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 215  176   167   430  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M  323M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 203  196   165   469  0  4 96
0 0 0 169M  299M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 189  185   167   452  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M  276M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 179  140   161   362  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M  249M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 207  172   165   431  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  223M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 199  172   165   429  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M  198M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 203  135   165   351  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  173M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 198  163   169   410  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  147M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 190  153   163   380  0  4 96
0 0 0 169M  124M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 185  168   159   410  0  4 96
0 0 0 169M  100M     0   0   0   0    72    5   0 201  201   163   483  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M   76M     0   0   0   0   136    5   0 214  176   159   457  0 10 90
0 0 0 169M   51M     0   0   0   0     8    5   0 200  190   169   457  0  5 95
1 0 0 169M   26M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0 201  192   163   459  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M   14M     0   4   0   0  3614   81   0 200  171   165   411  0  7 93
0 0 0 169M   17M     0   0   0   0  7251 7259   0 205  193   163   480  1  5 95
1 0 0 169M   19M     0   0   0   0  7177 7184   0 211  190   165   476  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  8.0M     0   0   0   0  3596 3600   0 200  203   169   518  0  2 98
1 0 0 169M   11M     0   0   0   0  7245 7253   0 197  190   166   461  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M   13M     0   0   0   0  7245 7253   0 205  162   165   426  0  8 92
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 169M   16M     0   0   0   0  7293 7301   0 202  189   165   457  1  4 95
1 0 0 169M   19M     0   0   0   0  7225 7233   0 196  175   163   432  0  6 94
0 0 0 169M   12M     0   0   0   0  3553 3557   1 161  123   162   321  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M   15M     0   0   0   0  7289 7298   0 202  164   163   410  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M   18M     0  32   0   0  7301 7347   9 201  185   165   468  0  5 95
1 0 0 169M   21M     0   0   0   0  7197 7205   0 198  197   162   476  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  8.5M     0   0   0   0  3644 3648   0 202  196   167   478  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M   12M     0   0   0   0  7357 7237  24 200  188   167   459  0  4 96
0 0 0 169M   14M     0   0   0   0  7122 7130   1 198  186   165   455  0  2 98
1 0 0 169M  7.7M     0   0   0   0  3589 3592   0 166  108   153   292  0  7 93
1 0 0 169M   12M     0   0   0   0  7309 7317   0 188  120   161   321  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M   14M     0   0   0   0  7293 7301   0 192  150   165   388  0  4 96
0 0 0 169M   21M     0   0   0   0  7197 7206   0 171  131   161   337  0  2 98
1 0 0 169M   10M     0   0   0   0  3548 3552   0 194  154   161   382  0  1 99
0 0 0 169M   11M     0   0   0   0  7293 7301   0 205  178   169   437  1  3 96
0 0 0 169M   14M     0   0   0   0  7273 7281   0 202  195   163   480  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M   16M     0   0   0   0  7230 7238   1 202  194   175   478  0  4 96
0 0 0 169M   19M     0   0   0   0  7197 7205   0 199  199   169   478  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M   21M     0   0   0   0  7225 7232   0 206  186   165   465  0  6 94
0 0 0 169M   12M     0   0   0   0  3764 3616   0 194  167   159   410  0  5 95
1 0 0 169M   19M     0   0   0   0  7277 7286   0 175  121   157   321  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M   21M     0   0   0   0  7189 7197   0 199  159   163   403  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M  9.7M     0   0   0   0  3653 3657   0 199  161   169   399  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M   11M     0   0   0   0  7229 7237   0 202  195   167   483  0  4 96
0 0 0 169M   13M     0   0   0   0  7229 7237   0 201  142   165   375  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M   20M     0   0   0   0  7241 7249   0 168  108   155   295  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M  8.9M     0   0   0   0  3616 3620   0 197  196   163   474  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M   18M     0   0   0   0  7225 7232   0 150  122   159   326  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M   18M     0   0   0   0  7229 7238   0 213  167   170   427  0  5 95
1 0 0 169M  7.0M     0   0   0   0  3549 3553   0 197  153   163   384  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M  7.9M     0   0   0   0  7309 7316   0 209  163   167   417  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M   11M     0   0   0   0  7229 7237   0 200  188   164   461  0  3 97
0 0 0 179M   10M   774   0  27   0  7207 7125  49 200  238   828   625  1  5 95
0 0 0 169M   15M    54   0   0   0  7780 7249   3 199  188   226   477  0  3 97
0 0 0 169M   16M     0   0   0   0  7220 7227   0 211  179   167   451  0  5 95
1 0 0 169M   19M     0   0   0   0  7213 7221   0 203  191   163   480  0  6 94
0 0 0 169M  7.5M     0   0   0   0  3692 3696   0 199  193   165   470  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M   10M     0   0   0   0  7197 7205   0 201  177   169   435  0  5 95
0 0 0 169M   13M     0   0   0   0  7229 7237   0 199  185   163   463  1  3 96
procs  memory       page                    disks     faults         cpu
r b w  avm   fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr   sr vt0 vt1   in    sy    cs us sy id
1 0 0 169M   15M     0   0   0   0  7261 7269   0 202  190   167   465  0  2 98
1 0 0 169M   18M     0   0   0   0  7209 7217   0 199  184   163   445  0  2 98
0 0 0 169M   21M     0   0   0   0  7197 7205   0 198  187   163   453  0  5 95
1 0 0 169M  9.7M     0   0   0   0  3644 3648   0 201  196   169   482  0  3 97
0 0 0 163M   13M    20   0   0   0  3901 3553   0 106   98   181   269  0  2 98
0 0 0 163M   13M     0   0   0   0    72    5   0   9   15   113    77  0  1 99
0 0 0 163M   13M     0   0   0   0     0   10   0   0   16   113    79  0  1 99
0 0 0 163M   13M     0   0   0   0     0    5   0   0   21   113    91  0  0 100

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> I usually use:
> $> freebsd-update fetch
> $> freebsd-update install
> $> make kernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL
> $> reboot

That works for installing updates to the same release, but I don't
see how it would work for upgrading to a new release
(freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade). You need to boot up
the new kernel before installing the new binaries. Indeed,
freebsd-update does a two stage process.

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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:05 AM Philipp Vlassakakis <
freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Did you try =E2=80=9Ezpool online zroot NAME-OF-DEGRADED-DISK=E2=80=9C an=
d =E2=80=9Ezpool zroot
> clear=E2=80=9C ?
>
> Regards,
> Philipp
>

Hey Phillip, thanks for the suggestion.

I just tried it and it says:

Device xxx onlined but remains in faulted state
And the "Action"suggests to run replace. Then I tried clear and waited for
the scrub to finish bu the device still says UNAVAIL.

So I went ahead and RTFM again and did "detach" and the "add"like the
handbook suggests.

Now the pool says ONLINE. BUT, why is the first disk labeled as "p3" and
not the second one???

# zpool status -v
  pool: zroot
 state: ONLINE
  scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h6m with 0 errors on Tue Nov  6 07:24:56 2018
config:

        NAME                             STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        zroot                            ONLINE       0     0     0
          diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3  ONLINE       0     0     0
          diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2    ONLINE       0     0     0

# zpool history
History for 'zroot':
2017-06-30.21:38:33 zpool create -o altroot=3D/mnt -O compress=3Dlz4 -O
atime=3Doff -m none -f zroot mirror ada0p3 ada1p3
2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3Dnone zroot/ROOT
2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/ zroot/ROOT/default
2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/tmp -o exec=3Don -o setuid=
=3Doff
zroot/tmp
2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/usr -o canmount=3Doff zroot=
/usr
2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create zroot/usr/home
2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o setuid=3Doff zroot/usr/ports
2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create zroot/usr/src
2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/var -o canmount=3Doff zroot=
/var
2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o exec=3Doff -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/audi=
t
2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o exec=3Doff -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/cras=
h
2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o exec=3Doff -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/log
2017-06-30.21:38:35 zfs create -o atime=3Don zroot/var/mail
2017-06-30.21:38:35 zfs create -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/tmp
2017-06-30.21:38:35 zfs set mountpoint=3D/zroot zroot
2017-06-30.21:38:35 zpool set bootfs=3Dzroot/ROOT/default zroot
2017-06-30.21:38:35 zpool export zroot
2017-06-30.21:38:37 zpool import -o altroot=3D/mnt zroot
2017-06-30.21:38:42 zpool set cachefile=3D/mnt/boot/zfs/zpool.cache zroot
2018-11-06.05:18:34 zpool clear zroot
2018-11-06.07:13:34 zpool online zroot /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2
2018-11-06.07:18:01 zpool clear zroot
2018-11-06.07:35:55 zpool detach zroot /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2
2018-11-06.07:36:24 zpool add zroot /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2





> > On 6. Nov 2018, at 14:53, Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:50 AM Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Beasties,
> >>
> >> I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put i=
t
> in
> >


[...]

>
>

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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:06 AM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org> wrote:

[...]


> For a simple mirror, if you can handle the risk, you can detach the
> unavailable disk and then reattach it. Once the mirror has been dropped
> down to a single disk (ie, not a mirror anymore) then you can _attach_ the
> disk that was part of the mirror before. Just make sure you "attach" it,
> don't use any other verbs.
>
>
Damn it. Your email came a few minutes too late. See my previous post I did
detach and "add" not attach.

Can I still do it? is there any way to just leave the array as it was?
Also, what is p3?

Pls. take a look at my previous post where I print out the current status
after detach and add and the complete history of the pool.

Thanks!!
-- 
Alex

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On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:16:40 -0500
Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> wrote:

> # zpool status -v
>   pool: zroot
>  state: ONLINE
>   scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h6m with 0 errors on Tue Nov  6 07:24:56 2018
> config:
> 
>         NAME                             STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>         zroot                            ONLINE       0     0     0
>           diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3  ONLINE       0     0     0
>           diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2    ONLINE       0     0     0

	You have just converted your pool into a stripe over two drives
with no redundancy. Your only recourse at this point is to back up the data
and recreate the pool.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>

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Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

> > I usually use:
> > $> freebsd-update fetch
> > $> freebsd-update install
> > $> make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
> > $> reboot
> 
> That works for installing updates to the same release, but I don't
> see how it would work for upgrading to a new release
> (freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade). You need to boot up
> the new kernel before installing the new binaries. Indeed,
> freebsd-update does a two stage process.

	I have used this procedure for upgrading several times now (most
recently from 11.1 to 11.2 - and that box started on 9.<something> so
it's been through two major version upgrades). There's an extra
freebsd-update install after the reboot but other than that it's fine IME,
YMMV of course.

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> I have used this procedure for upgrading several times now (most
> recently from 11.1 to 11.2 - and that box started on 9.<something> so
> it's been through two major version upgrades). There's an extra
> freebsd-update install after the reboot but other than that it's fine IME=
,
> YMMV of course.

I still don't understand how this works. To build the new kernel
for a newer RELEASE you need both the new binaries (which require
the new kernel to boot first), and the new sources (which don't
require anything).

I assume you run freebsd-update first (which overwrites your kernel
with the GENERIC one), then run freebsd-update after you have booted
GENERIC (this will install new binaries, and I assume new sources),
then recompile and reinstall your custom kernel, and then reboot
again?

If I guessed correctly you need an extra reboot step, and you need
to boot at least once with a GENERIC kernel.

Did I understand you correctly?

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On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 19:57:12 +0100
Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

> > I have used this procedure for upgrading several times now (most
> > recently from 11.1 to 11.2 - and that box started on 9.<something> so
> > it's been through two major version upgrades). There's an extra
> > freebsd-update install after the reboot but other than that it's fine
> > IME, YMMV of course.
> 
> I still don't understand how this works. To build the new kernel
> for a newer RELEASE you need both the new binaries (which require
> the new kernel to boot first), and the new sources (which don't
> require anything).

	Building the kernel doesn't need the new binaries, otherwise a
source upgrade would be impossible. The first install must install sources
as well as the GENERIC kernel.

> I assume you run freebsd-update first (which overwrites your kernel
> with the GENERIC one), then run freebsd-update after you have booted
> GENERIC (this will install new binaries, and I assume new sources),
> then recompile and reinstall your custom kernel, and then reboot
> again?

	No, I never boot into GENERIC, the procedure is exactly as Julien
described apart from the extra make install after the reboot.

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> Building the kernel doesn't need the new binaries, otherwise a
> source upgrade would be impossible.

I was under the impression that building across releases was not
recommended and/or fragile. From /usr/src/UPDATING:

    NOTE: FreeBSD has switched from gcc to clang. If you have trouble
    bootstrapping from older versions of FreeBSD, try WITHOUT_CLANG
    and WITH_GCC to bootstrap to the tip of head, and then rebuild
    without this option. The bootstrap process from older version
    of current across the gcc/clang cutover is a bit fragile.

> The first install must install sources as well as the GENERIC kernel.

Does it do that? According to the documentation, it only installs
the new kernel. Other components (which I read as also the src
component) are installed only by the second invocation, after you
have booted the new kernel. Is this another case of the documentation
being outdated?

> No, I never boot into GENERIC, the procedure is exactly as Julien
> described apart from the extra make install after the reboot.

What extra make install?

To recapitulate:

This is how it works with GENERIC kernel:

    freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade
    freebsd-update install
    reboot
    freebsd-update install

This is how Julian said it works for him with the custom kernel,
except I replaced fetch with upgrade:

    1) freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade
    2) freebsd-update install
    3) make kernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL
    4) reboot
    5) freebsd-update install

In my understanding in step #3 you don't have the new sources yet,
so how do you compile the new kernel? Or do you have them?

Thanks,

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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:14 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org> wrote:

> I do suggest a backup to some other disk that you then take offline.  I
> don't know what will happen if you have disk trouble while a removal is
> in process. That code, if I'm not insane, is very new.
>
>
>
Thank you all for taking the time to respond.

So what is the the correct approach here? Would this suggestion by Kevin
Neal have worked for re-attaching a good disk that had been ousted for a
faulty cable?

If so, what is the procedure for updating the handbook so that other people
that encounter this particular situation can recover more easily?

<quote>
For a simple mirror, if you can handle the risk, you can detach the
unavailable disk and then reattach it. Once the mirror has been dropped
down to a single disk (ie, not a mirror anymore) then you can _attach_ the
disk that was part of the mirror before. Just make sure you "attach" it,
don't use any other verbs.
</quote>

At this point I will just backup, reconstruct the array and restore.

Thanks again!

-- 

Alex

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:12:29 +0100
Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

> > Building the kernel doesn't need the new binaries, otherwise a
> > source upgrade would be impossible.
> 
> I was under the impression that building across releases was not
> recommended and/or fragile. From /usr/src/UPDATING:

	Only across some boundaries.

> This is how Julian said it works for him with the custom kernel,
> except I replaced fetch with upgrade:

	This is now almost exactly what I do for upgrades on the box with a
custom kernel (the only difference is that I have the KERNCONF enshrined
in make.conf and so don't specify it).

>     1) freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade
>     2) freebsd-update install
>     3) make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
>     4) reboot
>     5) freebsd-update install
> 
> In my understanding in step #3 you don't have the new sources yet,
> so how do you compile the new kernel? Or do you have them?

	I never checked, I can only assume that they must be there. I'll try
and remember to look next time I do one. It does make sense to defer as
little as possible to the post-reboot install if only for this reason.

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I just checked, the new kernel sources are not installed by the
first update. I tried this on a 10.4 system with a custom kernel:

    # uname -a
    FreeBSD ip-172-31-46-244 10.4-RELEASE-p13 FreeBSD 10.4-RELEASE-p13 #0:
Wed Nov  7 09:12:40 UTC 2018
aram@ip-172-31-46-244:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FCTARGET
 amd64
    #
    # freebsd-update -r 11.2-RELEASE upgrade
    # freebsd-update install
    Installing updates...
    Kernel updates have been installed.  Please reboot and run
    "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again to finish installing updates.

At this point the new kernel sources are *NOT* installed. There is
no point in recompiling the kernel here, as you will recompile the
old (10.4) kernel.

If you reboot now, you will get the new (11.2) GENERIC kernel, not
the custom kernel. After reboot:

    # uname -a
    FreeBSD ip-172-31-46-244 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 #0:
Thu Sep 27 08:16:24 UTC 2018
root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 amd64

We can now run freebsd-update install again, to finish the upgrade.
After that is finished, we can now recompile and reinstall the
custom kernel.

    $ cd /usr/src
    $ make buildkernel -j32 KERNCONF=3DFCTARGET
    $ sudo make installkernel KERNCONF=3DFCTARGET
    $ sudo reboot

After reboot we'll have our custom 11.2 kernel.

As you can see, we had to boot into GENERIC to do the update. The
kernel sources were not updated by freebsd-update(8) in the first
invocation, only by the second one, after the GENERIC kernel was
installed and booted.

--=20
Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu

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Hi!

Now I have FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE (amd64), Openbox and I am using
Claws-mail. I have claws-mail more than 10 years but I never had a
problems like I have the last few weeks: It downloads okay, filters
work but many times (Too many) when I try to open-read email is
"Segmentation fault (core dump). When I restart claws-mail its open
without problems. I did start from terminal but there are no other
errors.

Thank you.

SK

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Hi guys,

After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to
execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using ttyu0
and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typing
at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo.

Any ideas? Below are the configurations.

/etc/ttys

# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
#ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on          secure
ttyu1   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
ttyu2   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
ttyu3   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
# Dumb console
dcons   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   vt100   off secure

/boot/loader.conf

# ipmi enabled
ipmi_load="YES"
# ipmi configurations
boot_multicons="YES"
boot_serial="YES"
# serial configurations for COM1
console="comconsole,vidconsole"
comconsole_speed="115200"
comconsole_port="0x3F8"
hint.uart.0.flags="0x00"
hint.uart.2.flags="0x10"


-- 
Jordan

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08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to
> execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using ttyu0
> and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typing
> at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo.
> 
> Any ideas? Below are the configurations.
> 
> /etc/ttys
> 
> # Serial terminals
> # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
> #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on          secure

Use network access to perform the following:

1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply changes.
2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init q" again.

Then retry using console and sudo.


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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 23:56:26 +0100, Jordan Caraballo  
<jordancaraballo87@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to
> execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using  
> ttyu0
> and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typing
> at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo.


What do you mean by 'not working'? Is there an error message? Does it  
hang? Do you get logged out?

Regards,
Ronald.


>
> Any ideas? Below are the configurations.
>
> /etc/ttys
>
> # Serial terminals
> # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
> #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on          secure
> ttyu1   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> ttyu2   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> ttyu3   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> # Dumb console
> dcons   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   vt100   off secure
>
> /boot/loader.conf
>
> # ipmi enabled
> ipmi_load="YES"
> # ipmi configurations
> boot_multicons="YES"
> boot_serial="YES"
> # serial configurations for COM1
> console="comconsole,vidconsole"
> comconsole_speed="115200"
> comconsole_port="0x3F8"
> hint.uart.0.flags="0x00"
> hint.uart.2.flags="0x10"
>

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It hangs. No output at all. Latest testing showed that if I do:

# sudo su -

And hit Ctrl-C two times I get the password prompt, however, when I enter
the password it ignores it ( no error message).

/var/log/auth.log just records that the user executes the =E2=80=9Csu -=E2=
=80=9C command.
Just to be clear, when using normal console or kvm, this works fine.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:27 AM Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 23:56:26 +0100, Jordan Caraballo
> <jordancaraballo87@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to
> > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using
> > ttyu0
> > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typi=
ng
> > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo.
>
>
> What do you mean by 'not working'? Is there an error message? Does it
> hang? Do you get logged out?
>
> Regards,
> Ronald.
>
>
> >
> > Any ideas? Below are the configurations.
> >
> > /etc/ttys
> >
> > # Serial terminals
> > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
> > #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> > ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on          secure
> > ttyu1   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> > ttyu2   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> > ttyu3   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> > # Dumb console
> > dcons   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   vt100   off secure
> >
> > /boot/loader.conf
> >
> > # ipmi enabled
> > ipmi_load=3D"YES"
> > # ipmi configurations
> > boot_multicons=3D"YES"
> > boot_serial=3D"YES"
> > # serial configurations for COM1
> > console=3D"comconsole,vidconsole"
> > comconsole_speed=3D"115200"
> > comconsole_port=3D"0x3F8"
> > hint.uart.0.flags=3D"0x00"
> > hint.uart.2.flags=3D"0x10"
> >
>
--=20
Jordan

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I have a non-vital VM on XenServer 7.6, running:

FreeBSD freebsd-head-zfs.FQDN 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #0 r340244: Thu Nov  8 12:47:24 CET 2018     root@freebsd-head-zfs.FQDN:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/XENGUEST  amd64 1300003 1300003

The boot disks are partitioned as shown below:

$ gpart show -p ada0 ada1 ada2
=>      40  33554352    ada0  GPT  (16G)
        40      1024  ada0p1  freebsd-boot  (512K)
      1064  33553320  ada0p2  freebsd-zfs  (16G)
  33554384         8          - free -  (4.0K)

=>      40  33554352    ada1  GPT  (16G)
        40      1024  ada1p1  freebsd-boot  (512K)
      1064  33553320  ada1p2  freebsd-zfs  (16G)
  33554384         8          - free -  (4.0K)

=>      40  33554352    ada2  GPT  (16G)
        40      1024  ada2p1  freebsd-boot  (512K)
      1064  33553320  ada2p2  freebsd-zfs  (16G)
  33554384         8          - free -  (4.0K)

Before and while presenting the boot loader's menu, the screen is 
filled with:

Cannot probe medium sector size

See https://ximalas.info/~trond/13.0-CURRENT-r340244-Cannot-probe-medium-sector-size/13.0-CURRENT-r340244-Cannot-probe-medium-sector-size.png

The system is bootable. It's been like this for a long time, but I 
figured it's time to do something, if possible.

Are there any chance of silencing these messages?
Are the partitions misaligned?
Does XenServer convey the necessary information?

The same issue holds true for non-UEFI systems running under recent 
versions of VirtualBox. (XenServer supports only BIOS/legacy boot firmware.)

-- 
Trond.

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On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 06:10 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> 08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able
> > to
> > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am
> > using ttyu0
> > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and
> > typing
> > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is
> > sudo.
> > 
> > Any ideas? Below are the configurations.
> > 
> > /etc/ttys
> > 
> > # Serial terminals
> > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd
> > etc.
> > #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> > ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on          secure
> Use network access to perform the following:
> 
> 1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply changes.
> 2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init q"
> again.
> 
> Then retry using console and sudo.

The easy way to accomplish the same thing is to change std.115200 to
3wire.115200 (and then do 'init q').

-- Ian

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Hi Ian,
Changing the line following line from std.115200 to 3wire.115200 worked.
Can you explain the why? I am not entirely sure of the difference between
3wire and std there.

ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire.115200" vt100   on          secure

Thanks,
- Jordan

El jue., 8 nov. 2018 a las 10:39, Ian Lepore (<ian@freebsd.org>) escribi=C3=
=B3:

> On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 06:10 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> > 08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able
> > > to
> > > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am
> > > using ttyu0
> > > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and
> > > typing
> > > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is
> > > sudo.
> > >
> > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations.
> > >
> > > /etc/ttys
> > >
> > > # Serial terminals
> > > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd
> > > etc.
> > > #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure
> > > ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on          secure
> > Use network access to perform the following:
> >
> > 1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply changes.
> > 2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init q"
> > again.
> >
> > Then retry using console and sudo.
>
> The easy way to accomplish the same thing is to change std.115200 to
> 3wire.115200 (and then do 'init q').
>
> -- Ian
>


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Jordan

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I am attempting to create an "rc" script to start a program I am working on=
.
I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.conf file to=
 be
added to the "command" string when the program is started.

EXAMPLE:

In the rc script, this is present

command=3D/usr/local/bin/MyProg

Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify the rc
script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would rather th=
ey
entered options in the rc.conf file

I have been trying to use something like this in the re.conf file:

MyProg_append=3D"-l"

is there a way to get the script to automatically append that to the
"command" or would I have to use something like this:

command=3D/usr/local/bin/MyProg ${MyProg_append}

What happens if the variable is empty?

Thanks!

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On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:13:24 +0000, Carmel NY wrote:
> I am attempting to create an "rc" script to start a program I am working on.
> I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.conf file to be
> added to the "command" string when the program is started.
> 
> EXAMPLE:
> 
> In the rc script, this is present
> 
> command=/usr/local/bin/MyProg
> 
> Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify the rc
> script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would rather they
> entered options in the rc.conf file

Maybe read "man 5 rc.conf" and put non-FreeBSD (or at
least "experimental" stuff) in /etc/rc.conf.local.
The difference between rc.conf and rc.conf.local is
not as big in FreeBSD as it is in OpenBSD. ;-)



> I have been trying to use something like this in the re.conf file:
> 
> MyProg_append="-l"
> 
> is there a way to get the script to automatically append that to the
> "command" or would I have to use something like this:
> 
> command=/usr/local/bin/MyProg ${MyProg_append}

The common way to do this is to have a _flags variable,
for example

	myprog_flags="-l"

You can then execute

	$command $myprog_flags

in the script you're sourcing rc.conf into, and then
executing the program with flags, if present.

In case you don't have this in place yet, a convenient way
to source rc.conf is this:

#!/bin/sh

if [ -z "${source_rc_confs_defined}" ]; then
	if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then
		. /etc/defaults/rc.conf
		source_rc_confs
	elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then
		. /etc/rc.conf
	elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf.local ]; then
		. /etc/rc.conf.local
	fi
fi

# ... your commands here ...

This makes sure a certain "precedence" is maintained, if
you need that feature.



> What happens if the variable is empty?

An unset variable will (with sh defaults) evaluate
to the empty string. See "man sh" for "-u nounset"
if you want to get warnings about unset variables.



-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
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Subject: Re: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan
From: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To: Jordan Caraballo <jordancaraballo87@gmail.com>
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On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 12:47 -0500, Jordan Caraballo wrote:
> Hi Ian,
> Changing the line following line from std.115200 to 3wire.115200
> worked.
> Can you explain the why? I am not entirely sure of the difference
> between
> 3wire and std there.
> 
> ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire.115200" vt100   on          secure
> 
> Thanks,
> - Jordan
> 

The standard setting honors the modem control lines on the serial port,
so any attempt to open that serial device will block until the carrier-
detect line on the port is asserted.

The 3wire setting indicates that only RX, TX, and GND are connected,
and modem-control signals should be ignored. An open of such a device
will return immediately whether anything is actually connected to the
serial port or not.

A /dev/ttyN device is assumed to be a "call-in" device and has the
blocking behavior by default. A /dev/cuaN device is assumed to be a
"call-out" device that doesn't wait for modem carrier by blocking.
Using the std vs 3wire designations in /etc/ttys causes init(1) to set
termios(4) flags to implement blocking-open or immediate-open behavior
without needing to change the device name as well.

-- Ian

> El jue., 8 nov. 2018 a las 10:39, Ian Lepore (<ian@freebsd.org>)
> escribió:
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 06:10 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> > > 
> > > 08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > 
> > > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being
> > > > able
> > > > to
> > > > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am
> > > > using ttyu0
> > > > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output
> > > > and
> > > > typing
> > > > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is
> > > > sudo.
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations.
> > > > 
> > > > /etc/ttys
> > > > 
> > > > # Serial terminals
> > > > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login,
> > > > fingerd
> > > > etc.
> > > > #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole
> > > > secure
> > > > ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200"
> > > > vt100   on          secure
> > > Use network access to perform the following:
> > > 
> > > 1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply
> > > changes.
> > > 2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init
> > > q"
> > > again.
> > > 
> > > Then retry using console and sudo.
> > The easy way to accomplish the same thing is to change std.115200
> > to
> > 3wire.115200 (and then do 'init q').
> > 
> > -- Ian
> > 
> 

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On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 19:38:53 +0100, Polytropon stated:

>On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:13:24 +0000, Carmel NY wrote:
>> I am attempting to create an "rc" script to start a program I am working
>> on. I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.conf
>> file to be added to the "command" string when the program is started.
>>=20
>> EXAMPLE:
>>=20
>> In the rc script, this is present
>>=20
>> command=3D/usr/local/bin/MyProg
>>=20
>> Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify the =
rc
>> script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would rather
>> they entered options in the rc.conf file =20
>
>Maybe read "man 5 rc.conf" and put non-FreeBSD (or at
>least "experimental" stuff) in /etc/rc.conf.local.
>The difference between rc.conf and rc.conf.local is
>not as big in FreeBSD as it is in OpenBSD. ;-)

Actually, man 8 rc.subr is a lot more useful. However, it doesn't give me
what I want. Also, I have been having a problem with "run_rc_command"
chocking on complex startup options placed in the rc.conf file. I am still
trying to debug that one.

--=20
Carmel

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What I find interesting is that with the 'wrong' setting, you can log still
in just fine, and run most commands, but 'sudo' alone fails as described
above. (I've had the same experience on Serial-over-IPMI, but 'su' worked
fine so I never dug into it.)

It's an easy fix, but I'm still (academically) interested in what it is
that sudo is doing that is unique.

 - Eric

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>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:13:24 +0000, Carmel NY wrote:  
>>> I am attempting to create an "rc" script to start a program I am working
>>> on. I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.conf
>>> file to be added to the "command" string when the program is started.
>>> 
>>> EXAMPLE:
>>> 
>>> In the rc script, this is present
>>> 
>>> command=/usr/local/bin/MyProg
>>> 
>>> Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify the rc
>>> script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would rather
>>> they entered options in the rc.conf file    

Don't you look for ${name}_flags (see rc.subr(8)).

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On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 21:32:09 +0100, Mateusz Piotrowski stated:

>>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:13:24 +0000, Carmel NY wrote:   =20
>>>> I am attempting to create an "rc" script to start a program I am worki=
ng
>>>> on. I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.con=
f
>>>> file to be added to the "command" string when the program is started.
>>>>=20
>>>> EXAMPLE:
>>>>=20
>>>> In the rc script, this is present
>>>>=20
>>>> command=3D/usr/local/bin/MyProg
>>>>=20
>>>> Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify th=
e
>>>> rc script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would
>>>> rather they entered options in the rc.conf file     =20
>
>Don't you look for ${name}_flags (see rc.subr(8)).

${name}_flags
	Arguments to call command with. This is usually set in
	rc.conf(5), and not in the rc.d(8) script. The environment variable
	`flags' can be used to override this.

That calls "command", it does not append a value to it. I receive an error
that "eval" cannot handle it.

I am going to try:

load_rc_config_var name var
       Read the rc.conf(5) variable var for name and set in the current
       shell, using load_rc_config in a sub-shell to prevent unwanted side
       effects from other variable assignments.

--=20
Carmel

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09.11.2018 3:26, Eric Borisch wrote:

> What I find interesting is that with the 'wrong' setting, you can log still
> in just fine, and run most commands, but 'sudo' alone fails as described
> above. (I've had the same experience on Serial-over-IPMI, but 'su' worked
> fine so I never dug into it.)
> 
> It's an easy fix, but I'm still (academically) interested in what it is
> that sudo is doing that is unique.

It calls syslog() function with parameters that (for default /etc/ttys and /etc/syslog.conf)
makes an attempt to write to the console that blocks.

You can easily verify this using "ktrace -i sudo ..." and "kdump" after.


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I have scratched my head for two days trying to figure out this.
I had it with php70, which I uninstalled and replaced with php71 and now
the problem is worse, because apache24 still is trying to load modules from
the uninstalled php70.

/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/  refers to php70 modules - which I already
uninstalled.
 /usr/local/lib/php/20160303/ refers to php71 modules - which is what I
want to settle on.

I am now literally stuck.
Why is it still looking for modules from php70??
And why is mysql.so & pdo_mysql.so having this issue of "Unknown on line
0"??

Ayudame, por favor :-)

[09-Nov-2018 09:27:07 UTC] PHP Warning:  Module 'pdo_mysql' already loaded
in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 09:28:59 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 10:03:49 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 10:05:05 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 10:05:06 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 10:05:07 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 10:05:14 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 10:05:44 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 10:09:41 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 12:01:16 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 12:03:17 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 12:06:30 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 12:08:10 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 12:15:45 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
[09-Nov-2018 12:16:46 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
"/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0


How do I resolve this??

-- 
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
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"Oh, the cruft."

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Dear All,

I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-)

Still, can someone recommend good free email service?

I remember someone mentioned one on this list, but I failed to find that 
message in list archives and between messages I saved...

I definitely will not go with google, Microsoft, Apple. I don't have 
same strong feeling about yahoo as I have bout above, but...

Anyway, thanks in advance for all your advises.

Valeri

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Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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Hello, Odhiambo,

This is probably related to linking to the other version of PHP and not all
packages were rebuild for it. Anytime you make a major change like this you
should also get in the habit of rebuilding your entire ports tree and force
reinstalling all packages. If you do not do this, then you will likely run
into these problems with other random ports as you are here.

Best regards,
Richard Gallamore

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 4:34 AM Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com wrote:

> I have scratched my head for two days trying to figure out this.
> I had it with php70, which I uninstalled and replaced with php71 and now
> the problem is worse, because apache24 still is trying to load modules from
> the uninstalled php70.
>
> /usr/local/lib/php/20151012/  refers to php70 modules - which I already
> uninstalled.
>  /usr/local/lib/php/20160303/ refers to php71 modules - which is what I
> want to settle on.
>
> I am now literally stuck.
> Why is it still looking for modules from php70??
> And why is mysql.so & pdo_mysql.so having this issue of "Unknown on line
> 0"??
>
> Ayudame, por favor :-)
>
> [09-Nov-2018 09:27:07 UTC] PHP Warning:  Module 'pdo_mysql' already loaded
> in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 09:28:59 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 10:03:49 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 10:05:05 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 10:05:06 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 10:05:07 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 10:05:14 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 10:05:44 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 10:09:41 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 12:01:16 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 12:03:17 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 12:06:30 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 12:08:10 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 12:15:45 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
> [09-Nov-2018 12:16:46 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load
> dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open
> "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0
>
>
> How do I resolve this??
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
> Nairobi,KE
> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
> "Oh, the cruft."
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I am running 11.2-RELEASE on an HP Slimline with an i7, which has UHD 630 
graphics (Kaby Lake).

I load in /etc/rc.conf:
kld_list="/boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko /boot/modules/
i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.ko"

glxinfo reports:
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4

client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
client glx version string: 1.4

GLX version: 1.4

Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
    Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff)
    Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff)
    Version: 18.1.9
    Accelerated: no
    Video memory: 16384MB
    Unified memory: no
    Preferred profile: core (0x1)
    Max core profile version: 3.3
    Max compat profile version: 3.1
    Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
    Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0

Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes  ???
What am I missing?



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On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:20 AM Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-)
>
> Still, can someone recommend good free email service?
>
>
There used to be many, maybe Linuxmail is still around etc. but the truth
is that anything "free" is in exchange for your privacy in one way or
another. Even on some paid services, they may still put something in the
T&C such that they can share data for marketing purposes.

So IMO you are left with 2 choices:

1) Setup you own server (e.g. FreeBSD ;-)) and manage your own email server.
2) Pay some good and relatively inexpensive party to manage your email

I did (1) for years until I got fed up with controlling spam, viruses, spf,
reverse DNS, and being put (or putting others) on black lists etc. But it
works and it's free.

After I discovered HushMail I am very happy to pay the $60 or so per user
per year. It's really NOTHING if you cherish your privacy and your time:

https://www.hushmail.com

There are probably others like them, but I cannot recommend anything I
haven't used myself. And I recommend these guys two hands down.

Best and good luck,

-- 
Alex

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On 11/9/2018 12:42 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:20 AM Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-)
>>
>> Still, can someone recommend good free email service?
>>
>>
> There used to be many, maybe Linuxmail is still around etc. but the truth
> is that anything "free" is in exchange for your privacy in one way or
> another. Even on some paid services, they may still put something in the
> T&C such that they can share data for marketing purposes.
> 
> So IMO you are left with 2 choices:
> 
> 1) Setup you own server (e.g. FreeBSD ;-)) and manage your own email server.
> 2) Pay some good and relatively inexpensive party to manage your email
> 
> I did (1) for years until I got fed up with controlling spam, viruses, spf,
> reverse DNS, and being put (or putting others) on black lists etc. But it
> works and it's free.
> 
> After I discovered HushMail I am very happy to pay the $60 or so per user
> per year. It's really NOTHING if you cherish your privacy and your time:
> 
> https://www.hushmail.com
> 
> There are probably others like them, but I cannot recommend anything I
> haven't used myself. And I recommend these guys two hands down.

I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues.  I use it
with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not used the IMAP
capability).

https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx



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> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:20 AM Valeri Galtsev galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu
> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> > I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-)
> > Still, can someone recommend good free email service?
>
> There used to be many, maybe Linuxmail is still around etc. but the truth
> is that anything "free" is in exchange for your privacy in one way or
> another. Even on some paid services, they may still put something in the
> T&C such that they can share data for marketing purposes.
>
> So IMO you are left with 2 choices:
>
> 1.  Setup you own server (e.g. FreeBSD ;-)) and manage your own email ser=
ver.
> 2.  Pay some good and relatively inexpensive party to manage your email
>
>     I did (1) for years until I got fed up with controlling spam, viruses=
, spf,
>     reverse DNS, and being put (or putting others) on black lists etc. Bu=
t it
>     works and it's free.
>
>     After I discovered HushMail I am very happy to pay the $60 or so per =
user
>     per year. It's really NOTHING if you cherish your privacy and your ti=
me:
>
>     https://www.hushmail.com
>
>     There are probably others like them, but I cannot recommend anything =
I
>     haven't used myself. And I recommend these guys two hands down.

I am using protonmail since about 1 year and I found it very good:

https://protonmail.com/

It is focused on security and privacy. They use easy end-to-end encryption
when possible, i.e. from a protonmail account to a protonmail account, and
zero access encryption (that means that they cannot read your mails even
if they want to; of course this is true only once the encryption has been d=
one:
if you receive a non encrypted mail, for example from a gmail account, then=
, in
theory, they would be able to read it, and indeed it passes through the spa=
m
filter, but after the spam filter it is encrypted and unreadable to anyone =
except
you).

The free account is very restriced (only 3 folders and 3 labels), but if it=
 is enough
for you you might be happy with it. Paied accounts are not expensive and th=
ey will
probably make a discount soon for black friday or cyber monday.

Keep in mind that it is still in construction
and they do not have FreeBSD in mind (they are not working on any easy way
to download your mail on your computer; they are working on it for linux ho=
wever
and it might work for FreeBSD too, maybe after a little work; for the momen=
t
you can only use the web interface).

Lorenzo Salvadore.

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Rocketmail/Yahoo are very often a PITA, with the Yahoo spam filter
disabled, it anyway moved important office mail to the junk folder of
the web interface. I'm using MUAs with POP accounts, so don't notice,
if this happens. Zoho was very good, but since a few days Zoho seems to
have a bizarre policy regarding "duplicated" mails. If I send a mail Bcc
to myself, I receive the mail with an intact Bcc header. Mails I send to
at least one mailing list, don't come through to me.

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Hello lists;

testing 12.0-beta3 vnet jail that is using pf firewall.
net.inet.ip.forwarding =1 for the vnet jail.
Host is running ipfilter firewall.
The kldload pf.ko pflog.ko command has been issued.
10.0.10.30 is the ip address assigned to the vnet jail in the jail.conf.
Using this nat rule

nat on epair2b from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> (vge0)

vge0 is the hosts interface facing the public internet and a member of 
bridge2 along with member epair2a.

When I do a ping 8.8.8.8 from the vnet jail console I get message
"Time to live exceeded"

The vnet jail pflog shows in and out on epair2b 10.0.10.30 > 8.8.8.8

Thinking the NAT rule is incorrect because the pflog doesn't show the 
nated ip address assigned by the isp.   OR maybe the nat rule is not 
functional in a vnet jail because I found a bug.

Am I missing something here? Help please.


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PS: Regarding privacy I wouldn't trust any provider, neither if the
service is for free as in beer, nor if it's paid. Privacy isn't an
Internet domain.

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On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 10:18:58 -0600
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-)

	Pick two :)

> Still, can someone recommend good free email service?
> 
> I remember someone mentioned one on this list, but I failed to find that 
> message in list archives and between messages I saved...

	Not long ago I responded to someone looking for a decent SMTP
service. I can point you (or anyone who asks privately) to the one I use,
which has so far failed to annoy me (they sell bulk ). I'd hate to try and
get mail delivered without using a trusted relay. For the other end of the
problem (incoming) I run my own setup (sendmail/spamassassin/dovecot) which
is dead easy to set up.

> I definitely will not go with google, Microsoft, Apple. I don't have 
> same strong feeling about yahoo as I have bout above, but...

	You probably should (and I'm an ex Yahoo!).

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>

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On Fri, 09 Nov 2018 11:33:40 -0500, Steven Friedrich wrote:
> I am running 11.2-RELEASE on an HP Slimline with an i7, which has UHD 630 
> graphics (Kaby Lake).
> 
> I load in /etc/rc.conf:
> kld_list="/boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko /boot/modules/
> i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.ko"
> 
> glxinfo reports:
> name of display: :0
> display: :0  screen: 0
> direct rendering: Yes
> server glx vendor string: SGI
> server glx version string: 1.4
> 
> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
> client glx version string: 1.4
> 
> GLX version: 1.4
> 
> Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
>     Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff)
>     Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff)
>     Version: 18.1.9
>     Accelerated: no
>     Video memory: 16384MB
>     Unified memory: no
>     Preferred profile: core (0x1)
>     Max core profile version: 3.3
>     Max compat profile version: 3.1
>     Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
>     Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0
> 
> Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes  ???
> What am I missing?

You are currently using a software renderer.

This _might_ be one of the few cases where kld_list in rc.conf
does not work. Try to manually load the modules after system
startup, but before X is started (for example, via /etc/rc.local).

On the one system with Intel graphics (Lenovo Thinkpad R61i)
I have this entry in /boot/loader.conf:

	i915kms_load="YES"

I have the "xf86-video-intel" package installed.

Then I'm starting X without xorg.conf (via "startx" command),
and in "glxinfo" output I get this:

Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
    Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center (0x8086)	<=== HERE
    Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2 (0x2a02)	<=== AND HERE
    Version: 17.3.1
    Accelerated: yes		<===================== AND FINALLY THIS ENTRY!
    Video memory: 384MB
    Unified memory: yes
    Preferred profile: compat (0x2)
    Max core profile version: 0.0
    Max compat profile version: 2.1
    Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
    Max GLES[23] profile version: 2.0

This is quite different from your output where "VMWare" is
being listed...



-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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> On Nov 9, 2018, at 11:18, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-)
> 
> Still, can someone recommend good free email service?
> 


You could check out protomail:

https://protonmail.com/

Rather privacy focused.
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500
Mike via freebsd-questions wrote:

> I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues.  I use
> it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not used the
> IMAP capability).
> 
> https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx


One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest
of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain
(they specify 1 alias). 

Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all?


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On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 10:18:58AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-)
> 
> Still, can someone recommend good free email service?

I cannot.

But I would start by looking for (paid) shell account - I think they
usually come with email option (i.e. POP3, IMAP and SMTP). I have had
a look and panix.com has a webpage. Note, I am not associated, not
even a client, I have no idea if they suck or not - albeit I have hard
time imagining how I could suck while giving shell accounts, because
it seems rather easy (a classic UNIX service, eh?).

Going after shell has a benefit - at least there is a chance you will
be hosted on "something normal" or resembling UNIX to some extent.

Free is not an option for me, because I am subscribed to too many
mailing lists and I like it when the emails keep coming.

For one or five mails a day, free might do the job. And they send spam
to their free clients, because the cost of "free" account has to be
paid somehow. With client-paid account, there is usually spamassassin
or something and it might even catch some trash.

Some other folks mention privacy. I would totally forget about anybody
who tries to sell me this, for free or not (as they say, if one tells
it to somebody, it is not a secret anymore and yet private email is
supposed to keep it secret, hehehe - also, consider king Midas and his
donkey ears).

[...]
> I definitely will not go with google, Microsoft, Apple. I don't have
> same strong feeling about yahoo as I have bout above, but...

I understand there are still some smaller players who would gladly
solve your problem.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.      **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home    **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...      **
**                                                                 **
** Tomasz Rola          mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com             **

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I have two 10.4-Stable instances - One physical machine and one VM unicore
on a cloud provider.

I both cases, I downloaded the 11.2-stable source via svn and proceeded
to do make buildworld buildkernel (all running under 10.4).

On the VM everything completes flawlessly.   On the physical machine,
it blows up with an error traceback like this:

...


/usr/include/c++/v1/cmath:776:9: note: using declaration
using ::cosh;
        ^
fatal error: too many errors emitted, stopping now [-ferror-limit=]
20 errors generated.
*** [Support/APFloat.o] Error code 1

make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmminimal
1 error

make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmminimal
*** [_bootstrap-tools-lib/clang/libllvmminimal] Error code 2

make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
1 error

make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
*** [_bootstrap-tools] Error code 2

make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
1 error

make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
*** [buildworld] Error code 2



Thoughts?
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On 11/9/2018 3:52 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500
> Mike via freebsd-questions wrote:
> 
>> I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues.  I use
>> it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not used the
>> IMAP capability).
>>
>> https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx
> 
> 
> One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest
> of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain
> (they specify 1 alias). 
> 
> Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all?

I am not sure where you see the "two addresses on a domain" limitation.

I just looked at the webpage and do not see it.  Can you be more specific?


To your other question: I do not know if they handle wild-cards, as I
have not tried to use them.  Maybe a quick email to their support might
answer the question?



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On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:13:18 -0500
Mike via freebsd-questions wrote:

> On 11/9/2018 3:52 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500
> > Mike via freebsd-questions wrote:
> >   
> >> I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues.  I
> >> use it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not
> >> used the IMAP capability).
> >>
> >> https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx  
> > 
> > 
> > One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest
> > of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain
> > (they specify 1 alias). 
> > 
> > Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all?  
> 
> I am not sure where you see the "two addresses on a domain"
> limitation.
> 
> I just looked at the webpage and do not see it.  Can you be more
> specific?

If you click on "Tech Specs" there's a table of feature and if you
mouse-over the aliases "?" icon it says

    "Maximum number of aliases for each mailbox. Alias is a forwarding
    address. It doesn't have its own storage but forwards e-mails to
    main e-mail address"

If you are required to nominate a main address on your domain and can
have one alias, that sounds like a limit of two addresses.

 


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Dear Colleagues,

Any SWLs among you?

What USB SDR shortwave receiver would be compatible with FreeBSD, and=20
what software from ports would you advise?

Please share your personal success stories with SDR receivers you=20
personally use. Thank you in advance.

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Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/

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On 11/10/2018 8:21 AM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:13:18 -0500
> Mike via freebsd-questions wrote:
> 
>> On 11/9/2018 3:52 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote:
>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500
>>> Mike via freebsd-questions wrote:
>>>   
>>>> I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues.  I
>>>> use it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not
>>>> used the IMAP capability).
>>>>
>>>> https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx  
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest
>>> of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain
>>> (they specify 1 alias). 
>>>
>>> Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all?  
>>
>> I am not sure where you see the "two addresses on a domain"
>> limitation.
>>
>> I just looked at the webpage and do not see it.  Can you be more
>> specific?
> 
> If you click on "Tech Specs" there's a table of feature and if you
> mouse-over the aliases "?" icon it says
> 
>     "Maximum number of aliases for each mailbox. Alias is a forwarding
>     address. It doesn't have its own storage but forwards e-mails to
>     main e-mail address"
> 
> If you are required to nominate a main address on your domain and can
> have one alias, that sounds like a limit of two addresses.

Ahhh... OK.

The $9.88 per year price is for one email mailbox and one alias.  You
can have multiple email mailboxes per domain.

I current pay two times $9.88 per year for two mailboxes in my domain.
Each of those mailboxes has the one main address and an alias.  One nice
aspect is that I can apportion the storage space as I want between the
mailboxes I purchased.

My understanding is that you can have as many email mailboxes per domain
as you are willing to pay $9.88 per year for.

Hope this helps.