From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Tue Jul 10 19:49:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223A3102228F for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57DC88D24 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 726B9102228E; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6551022289 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from iredmail.bsdtec.net (bsdtec.plus.com [84.92.41.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4DFE88D22 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from iredmail.bsdtec.net (unknown [172.16.32.11]) by iredmail.bsdtec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8160A249F for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:48:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iredmail.bsdtec.net Received: from iredmail.bsdtec.net ([172.16.32.11]) by iredmail.bsdtec.net (iredmail.bsdtec.net [172.16.32.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Qmbb-ouiwatB for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atlas (loki.lerwick.hopto.org [192.168.1.1]) by iredmail.bsdtec.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF8E5A2492 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <6d8e7041b2a93b6dfc5823b13b27308b5c27f005.camel@lerwick.hopto.org> Subject: sparc64 for the bin ?? From: Craig Butler To: sparc64@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:48:55 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.1-2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 19:49:13 -0000 Howdy Folks Is FreeBSD finally pulling the plug on sparc64 ? https://reviews.freebsd.org/D10052 seems to suggest out before 12... Thanks /Craig From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Tue Jul 10 20:22:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D27C1027C0D for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAB78A521 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C131F1027C08; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED971027C07 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61C588A51E for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 809D024936; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:05 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: Craig Butler Cc: sparc64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sparc64 for the bin ?? Message-ID: <20180710202204.GA11015@lonesome.com> References: <6d8e7041b2a93b6dfc5823b13b27308b5c27f005.camel@lerwick.hopto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6d8e7041b2a93b6dfc5823b13b27308b5c27f005.camel@lerwick.hopto.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:22:08 -0000 On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 08:48:55PM +0100, Craig Butler wrote: > Is FreeBSD finally pulling the plug on sparc64 ? I've given up arguing with the src developers. Enough want to see it removed that it's not worth me continuing to fight it. I haven't been doing ports builds since December. I am too far behind on other tasks. mcl From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Tue Jul 10 20:31:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F51028BDC for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C37F8AC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 37A4D1028BD8; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BA61028BD2 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 964C38AC10 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id b15-v6so45134387oib.10 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:31:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CtJipmwgm2cZMNAclLf5nN8rcIC2OkiGJxJPfRsQiZ4=; b=dksdKY++4Yj85gVxQZ6IeiMkfHAC5x3XZcUoGDJjhUx0cB8IlsxehNV0LkIEwYmmaS sMHmwE56bhfjLrFnZRUwWX9B6zjJQHpFGioXVIBZeBW1f5Oqsf72PotGQ+OZLaalusqT C/ecfUiKr75FDXFkG4yyGqO7L5KGGbYp1vlf76MVrYlc2mUw9tboi6nSjQdaBOZk1gEO 3DK5hi84GNJvmPcQajoOqY1k+JwOsCLYupakvTpCTwZ2azLLbD8hXUVGTSBjhQB4+wdl llbH66jRaARRNgVM7NrSZAN7Tf8ytBZAf8GhtfWWX0sh2Ld7L91XdH/WqcUhR62t4bkV Lv+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CtJipmwgm2cZMNAclLf5nN8rcIC2OkiGJxJPfRsQiZ4=; b=ZdJr/JNpr3KOPlUVwEJx5bOxxa2/aBGLR14PmuHQP4D4o4bwmu9ltgvG60rXMokEzi adeB6qv2v+q9oCwWfUWXFobRMMPpnYMui++6SMbzJl3GJyVulBgycXnlC0Yp6lykmI3U P+/V/jupoRS77bujg+l/LP3oyJMmra+WxMkc7EeoQt8TLerCFHVpKr2l1w0RXv9lC2Ll s/RnoSm9Rbb/SHKWlIj0r/w2AfE2i8BV2FaEQ+Zvewl1HaClzamc4s3Bg2pTRRPVan3A 22qzpZbBjUddR7vz1177y9mTGiaFcIUpiqrBKiQJ5XfJo8BBjjT+TU+MSBFL9LBzCP7Z D7MA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E37X3FbiHGN/jfRlwpKprnu6TO7fpBta4RIjIXxqCAIKutwqYK/ sEWVitXox5iYOWhHcnF1Ci5TkELdFuuoY7UlFh8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdUTKeGWZMShhXh1OyPz3jgvP3hm2R+L/k3WGbGW8ZejloK1N51o/RWwsJTIo5VghzRNgb32B4oe2F9vR0Z4hU= X-Received: by 2002:aca:30d4:: with SMTP id w203-v6mr27864182oiw.8.1531254680689; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:31:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9d:1022:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:31:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180710202204.GA11015@lonesome.com> References: <6d8e7041b2a93b6dfc5823b13b27308b5c27f005.camel@lerwick.hopto.org> <20180710202204.GA11015@lonesome.com> From: Joshua Pincus Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:31:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sparc64 for the bin ?? To: Mark Linimon Cc: Craig Butler , sparc64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:31:23 -0000 I'm confused. Why remove it at all? What harm is there in keeping the arch there? JP On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 08:48:55PM +0100, Craig Butler wrote: > > Is FreeBSD finally pulling the plug on sparc64 ? > > I've given up arguing with the src developers. Enough want to > see it removed that it's not worth me continuing to fight it. > > I haven't been doing ports builds since December. I am too > far behind on other tasks. > > mcl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Tue Jul 10 20:37:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD1B1029688 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B808AF18 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E11081029687; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4501029685 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F2208AF17 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF2B424936; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:14 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: Joshua Pincus Cc: Craig Butler , sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sparc64 for the bin ?? Message-ID: <20180710203705.GA11940@lonesome.com> References: <6d8e7041b2a93b6dfc5823b13b27308b5c27f005.camel@lerwick.hopto.org> <20180710202204.GA11015@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:17 -0000 On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 04:31:20PM -0400, Joshua Pincus wrote: > I'm confused. Why remove it at all? What harm is there in keeping the > arch there? The src committers claim that having it slows down their work on other problems due to the extra test time. mcl From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Tue Jul 10 20:43:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29A5102A023 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D3F8B5C4 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E7EA4102A01C; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F39102A017 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22b.google.com (mail-oi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51EF98B5C1 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.pincus@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id d189-v6so45212429oib.6 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:43:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/vq5E9HhXBzb5ieJTPg4qTkUOtVDk/4WYDsC0YVFXA4=; b=jSCALCI+tyDx29ChguOYmoe2CPU1B2UfsxK6s8s5yrDfGgBvksAMC5InhSROrW/qBz TUdzqJAF89twhXLpyIlksg7ygUBDNmbEgh44ESCzmeLyUBMrzL3jMefXduZXSd4qv4dP JxRgABJl/pqKlaqkmi9urWzN8FLkDSrc5ck0v/C9OfnjI3wmmtbXiJS9jzZMnO8uqqzn msPV3aw2Nod2JGiIHr54ZA/xzN+9EvhVpXHzs61q6sNM3hE7Z6xFw38tmHCMw3SALU95 1ILBT18iPl71fzPS2NliX3n+ukiwAwm/MAcxWunMYHCNXPnL5t9aKMAzfll2sujhid6i 0o1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/vq5E9HhXBzb5ieJTPg4qTkUOtVDk/4WYDsC0YVFXA4=; b=Fr8ztYLR/W5UvGhpzdcmgqmMDxrcqL+QQ+JTDkn45j3wwBGEXVGB7c33LqVCrUr7FV +AhubfqugxfybAWo72Qgg23VcgSrlxUiSkBTA6+wr3GiVyb5grlnqRWTFWBBq7Vbl+YX QUmb/Jae49w4MPpb59wnYK5C4nOZvS7s9xzlTflBcwSBqcNKmFINS6Ckh0wTbQn7nKGH 9uoBAwg3T2UCqPZaWfkBwJXmclRGfouXk34iceZb6aa3r6l/rB9MGmqmDPZMN4Z4gH3l PEjAU07TH8+QUIIe9r7FawnkLvjFl2cX2GTRk2JoKIhoFPh+UxQN2DZ3aAVe8xp6j8kh mCKw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1ek63cvm/mtdmuClO8738pRfokZRkZAy2A5YoKjKEWmkDpogSS NlHR6LJZuDKrS3sRLlPy8QRvGpGW42tvVfiHitg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdDpPDJPh4C121jgbJwYDpFiDyU1c0PVMGQ8roNkQNZ54xcpD7sbagCe9yuCzzgLBkLSEoLydkd0jZfhMifSKQ= X-Received: by 2002:aca:190d:: with SMTP id l13-v6mr31172544oii.216.1531255398300; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:43:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9d:1022:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:43:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180710203705.GA11940@lonesome.com> References: <6d8e7041b2a93b6dfc5823b13b27308b5c27f005.camel@lerwick.hopto.org> <20180710202204.GA11015@lonesome.com> <20180710203705.GA11940@lonesome.com> From: Joshua Pincus Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:43:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sparc64 for the bin ?? To: Mark Linimon Cc: Craig Butler , sparc64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:43:21 -0000 Hi, Is there no way to leave it as an unsupported arch of some kind? If someone wants to use it, they will need to test it accordingly. Dumping it in this way seems short-sighted and unnecessary. JP On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 04:31:20PM -0400, Joshua Pincus wrote: > > I'm confused. Why remove it at all? What harm is there in keeping the > > arch there? > > The src committers claim that having it slows down their work on other > problems due to the extra test time. > > mcl > From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Tue Jul 10 21:06:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94ED102C311 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6624A8C350 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1C9A6102C30B; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0874F102C308 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A92BB8C34D for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF62C24936; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:12 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: Joshua Pincus Cc: Craig Butler , sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sparc64 for the bin ?? Message-ID: <20180710210611.GA13112@lonesome.com> References: <6d8e7041b2a93b6dfc5823b13b27308b5c27f005.camel@lerwick.hopto.org> <20180710202204.GA11015@lonesome.com> <20180710203705.GA11940@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:06:16 -0000 On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 04:43:17PM -0400, Joshua Pincus wrote: > Is there no way to leave it as an unsupported arch of some kind? Per the official support page, stable/11 will be supported through September 30, 2021. So even if sparc64 src is deleted from 12, it will still be usable on 11 through that time: https://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup I suppose we could try to convince the src people to leave it in the tree for 12, but merely disconnected; however, I think once it's disconnected it will just bitrot. That was certainly the fate of the alpha arch. (Given that FreeBSD src was under a much more rapid rate of change in that timeframe.) mcl