From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Jan 25 16:57:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE57614BB47D for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4C28C174 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2F57614BB47C; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C71314BB47B for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B10CA8C172 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net (etoilebsd.net [178.32.217.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85FA39232 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by ivaldir.etoilebsd.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6056CB474F; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:57:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:57:51 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Importing mksh in base Message-ID: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iole3onwjmfq3agg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B10CA8C172 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:57:54 -0000 --iole3onwjmfq3agg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone, I would like to import mksh in base, https://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm And make it the default root shell (not necessary in one step) Why: 1/ it is tiny 400k (in the packaged version) all other shells fitting the expectation are bigger 2/ it's default frontend in interactive mode is very close to what most people are used to with bash and shells as default root shell on other BSD and most linuxes 3/ from my narrow window csh as a default root shell is one of the major complaint (usually the first thing a user get faced to) from new comers and also for some long timers who are reinstalling a machine and have not yet installed/configured a bourne compatible shell What this proposal is _NOT_ about: 1/ the removal of tcsh from base 2/ any kid of denial of the quality and interest or features of csh What do you think? Best regards, Bapt --iole3onwjmfq3agg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAlxLQAwACgkQY4mL3PG3 PlomwxAAsbJZ6/0FCDqIM7w2XD/km+xXZBDPB9154Tgvi+GckDdvvLajTo2XK4hz M2/42N1TVed80tFc6+cmia3i4URiHZSoE8P9jnCYHI2n+pRzALxsll8toFmbFCUt 7WXHkaRI3Bln/I/XCwEkyC0rcXN+PZAF1oUBej4yobx8qBKBorBDJHBhMB6fOrQz hH+yAGyKEmZAvhSrxX/+4cwHdLdvR55db4aj4KJgcrasAl0ZYLKh4FeONoOJGnBQ AUS7W6lBx2MWWr06GS1Gz37xN9lqRNKVWPW9GPVUXyZSJr66my7TQoyIQss+DhVi YCh2MDaQyQHfoUP0pePC29b3Kq5liD5vMYyktCklH0DEml5EGeYMf+3BIHJjcMfk ohAz/4QGZlbVDdcA4/g0e1pCqkTebNBl/pgo8FdNVw3+PGDAz/0z0JbutXYc2MOw PVAC5IRVGc6MlqnEb9h+fCcGEaeKrwp0g9Z16PErpsRUbMzjjQJx3hqiI8nFSfuF SUJipkiHL/VLf69NtFSBMfeDLOvD7b7Qi5fBvG0ypFz/wQlYNCRRluWMAPb89xqJ 5kGaR7xC9miGuqRs4pDyWaFjifTIncUZvf0PpNvNkkKHnonStVCH9Mt1c3rIrUbM 6+vTcUdNBJfSkfRDg0XfXZKy0bWz2R1cmrIImugoAWvYK3oav6E= =gqge -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iole3onwjmfq3agg--