From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat May 11 21:11:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4AE15A7A94; Sat, 11 May 2019 21:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13::5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "eg.sd.rdtc.ru", Issuer "eg.sd.rdtc.ru" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23804719E5; Sat, 11 May 2019 21:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: brooks@freebsd.org Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x4BLBCdT030718 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 12 May 2019 04:11:12 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: FCP-101: obsolete driver removal planned for 2019-05-18 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <201905111559.x4BFx2Fe030820@fire.js.berklix.net> Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <730e3c61-de6a-240b-5310-c29884750163@grosbein.net> Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 04:11:07 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201905111559.x4BFx2Fe030820@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 23804719E5 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=permerror (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net uses mechanism not recognized by this client) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.37)[-0.374,0]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; URI_HIDDEN_PATH(1.00)[http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/customise]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.77)[0.774,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_PERMFAIL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.986,0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: RU(0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29072, ipnet:2a03:3100::/32, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 12 May 2019 00:07:52 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 21:11:35 -0000 11.05.2019 22:59, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> 11.05.2019 21:32, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> >>>> I've posted a review to remove obsolete 10 and 10/100 Ethernet drivers >>>> as previous approved in FCP-101. >>>> The following drivers are slated for >>>> removal from FreeBSD-HEAD (to be FreeBSD-13): >>>> >>>> ae, bm, cs, de, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, sf, sn, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe >>> >>> OMG ! ed ! That EOL's loads of PC boxes I have (& a show box of >>> spare) that will never be able to upgrade. >> >> Do those boxes have 10M-only or 100Mbps variants of ed(4)? >> What kind of hardware do they have (CPU and memory-wise)? > > Thanks for question. I ran a quick check: > cd /usr/src; > # Apply my patches: > # customise `pwd` > # http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/customise > cd /sys/amd64/conf > grep device [A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z].small | grep ed > DUAL.small:device ed > FILM.small:device ed > KING.small:device ed > LAPA.small:device ed > LAPD.small:device ed > LAPL.small:device ed > LAPN.small:device ed > LOFT.small:device ed > MINI.small:device ed > SCAN.small:device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 15 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 0x10000 > SLIM.small:device ed > SNOW.small:device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 > WIND.small:device ed I've asked not for configuration files but for description of hardware. ed(4) supports many different models. Some of them do 10Mbps only but some are 100M-capable including PCI-connected. And it's interesting to know what is CPU and memory type/amount of boxes.