From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Sun May 12 01:22:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E64715AC9F2 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 01:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com (mail-qt1-x831.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 570318281B for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 01:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id y22so7548036qtn.8 for ; Sat, 11 May 2019 18:21:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2d8GmcgXDnUwGwDTV2zYlGq0m0+GfYW5zDVF0SwAXH4=; b=14lOSWM/6ACVbRF/EUwoRJFnOf390PLIcZcPja5/oFjy3mfoH7sJnNtaOq5HCS33xT kB4oC/CM9YVlZQ1GFqUXJwKeu90CNn02dbLh4LntSey0fFimOOXRwcTEwiJa/NaYBGVu ubYqfqm+OdRvLUlxt4sKXeMf0Dr824h34FcrIJrh2l7x0Xcni7WV6fNu0FiQaZF7oBJG 3Dm8aiZlVDdHdSjzG0LjJE+RVciWOSiAQCPLNVE1rJyoGB/betRiNRYGSAIAXwGAwgGK mGlRI0MDVch4CCmGdJNW9AxNqjUT3R+Fxk27IQxeKaawCG/ZMl9HLyyZP1ZJOCRogDeW 4Rvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2d8GmcgXDnUwGwDTV2zYlGq0m0+GfYW5zDVF0SwAXH4=; b=CNgocKbz3g5pULNuh5RJrJRWkzPoQZ+Hs5/ZS1v+IPytCPie5ddqHoasghxdK/CZuv QIba+PJiWNo9WjbCaeiouEMHGO75KLVlxYJdnQ3P9xr4AwJDUnd0VS/zFVt58R4Bqdgi joimVqqhAnBK3YbIDWHfb6alk6ZzJRbOrkCkksA4MHFliry0e+Ae4xgKmoh4tEio+XyO NZfIgEIhN+WtMnuuWR1Decom/4Q/p+xRujFhZx675MecXJg2Nk9Mt3LHWocn2ZzPH1bC Vfs6rjkmVBdWRMY+56dKBHSur4ob1GZmqy5eBBQkYMCwrHy7lJJoU+iE7TTNTmLY4a7S UvOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUplcmO8+bQ59OLhgNNToOuvGuElSm2XexeC/l/3Tnr1HGlMtO6 gSZ5NAXlvlw0wtJ9/5DNtK7EYO1evA/xuVpNf0VjWQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz3Nquu1+b97Ia8+wB2ZHJApJXq8V+2KBGZVINDWPPt/8Jt5Js3MdKCOi48ptML7RF/YLWcMon9u8w/5s2jPZo= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:875:: with SMTP id x50mr16715900qth.345.1557624118592; Sat, 11 May 2019 18:21:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201905111433.x4BEWnlX058386@fire.js.berklix.net> <3c911071-f794-1e27-87e1-16a789a95852@grosbein.net> In-Reply-To: <3c911071-f794-1e27-87e1-16a789a95852@grosbein.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 20:21:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-101: obsolete driver removal planned for 2019-05-18 To: Eugene Grosbein Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , Brooks Davis , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 570318281B X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=14lOSWM/ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.91 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-net@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT1.aspmx.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.948,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.95)[ip: (-9.18), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.25), asn: 15169(-2.27), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 01:22:01 -0000 On Sat, May 11, 2019, 12:52 PM Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 11.05.2019 21:32, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > >> I've posted a review to remove obsolete 10 and 10/100 Ethernet drivers > >> as previous approved in FCP-101. > >> The following drivers are slated for > >> removal from FreeBSD-HEAD (to be FreeBSD-13): > >> > >> ae, bm, cs, de, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, sf, sn, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe > > > > OMG ! ed ! That EOL's loads of PC boxes I have (& a show box of > > spare) that will never be able to upgrade. > > Do those boxes have 10M-only or 100Mbps variants of ed(4)? > What kind of hardware do they have (CPU and memory-wise)? > There are no 100M ed variants. There are some PC Card variants that have 100M MII connections, but they are limited to about 12Mbps due to bus limits. Even the PCI ones didn't have 100M mii connections. Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >