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Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk [95.142.156.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F2438D21F for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk (unknown [82.71.56.121]) (Authenticated sender: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk) by outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4F474265D3D9F; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:20:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (helo=curlew.localnet) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gdekr-0001By-Ak; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:20:01 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:15:12 +0000 Message-ID: <1551791.MsCH1bHPGx@curlew> In-Reply-To: <961dc39c14de8d519801ca9fe3b2cdd9.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <961dc39c14de8d519801ca9fe3b2cdd9.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Subject: Re: /etc/resolv.conf overwritten by what? X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6F2438D21F X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mike@milibyte.co.uk designates 95.142.156.253 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.81)[-0.813,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr]; IP_SCORE(0.28)[asn: 198047(1.51), country: GB(-0.10)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[milibyte.co.uk]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.64)[-0.635,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.37)[0.368,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail3.eqx.gridhost.co.uk]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[253.156.142.95.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:198047, ipnet:95.142.156.0/22, country:GB]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:20:12 -0000 On Friday, 28 December 2018 15:15:54 GMT James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > Something changed the contents of /etc/resolv.conf from this: > > search hamilton.harte-lyne.ca harte-lyne.ca > # nameserver ::216:33 > # nameserver ::216:34 > # nameserver 127.0.0.1 > nameserver 216.185.71.33 > nameserver 216.185.71.34 > options edns0 timeout:5 attempts:3 > > to this: > > # Generated by resolvconf > search localdomain You need to add a line containing resolvconf=NO to /etc/resolvconf.conf. man 5 resolvconf.conf -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 30 17:09:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97955142E417 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [IPv6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 425868CC0D for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:558:6017:94:c582:1d99:a986:7609]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43SRkV4LYjzZF0J for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:09:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:4999:54c:ceec:c70e] (unknown [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:4999:54c:ceec:c70e]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43SRkT4GJtz1XwJ for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:09:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How to configure IPV6 on FreeBSD 12 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Mike Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:09:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 425868CC0D X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.48 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[oneyou.mgm51.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[0.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.6.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.76)[-0.755,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:2607:f2f8::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com:s=mgm51-02]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(0.00)[mgm51.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.6.2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_MED(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:09:26 -0000 On 12/29/2018 11:54 AM, Bill Crowell, N4HPG wrote: > I found my system at various stages of updates within the 11 release series and tidied it up to v12 as it became an official release. > > I use FreeBSD on a Zotac mini PC as a firewall, router, caching DNS server and for other things. > > It has 2 nics - one public and the other on my LAN. It does NAT for IPv4 and I’m using the PF firewall with great results. > > What I am NOT able to make work is IPV6. My ISP is Comcast and they support full IPv6 over DHCP and this worked on BSD 8 and 9 using the instructions here: > [snip] > > So, what should I be using? While I'm currently using OpenBSD for my firewall, in the past I have used FreeBSD for the task and it worked well. Comcast is my ISP, I've found their IPv6 implementation to be quite good. I was able to have a /60 IPv6 prefix delegated to me. Comcast, by default, provides a /128 IPv6 address and a /64 prefix delegation. You can change the length of the prefix delegation via dhclient parameters when you ask for the prefix. First things first... In order to get the IPv6 prefix delegation: (check man pages for the details and precise syntax of the following) - you need to assure that your WAN interface accepts IPv6 rtadv ( add "inet6 accept_rtadv" to the WAN interface in rc.conf ) - you need a working dhcp6 client. I use the ISC dhclient. The one in packages works well for me. One of the command line parameters specifies the length of the prefix to be delegated. https://www.freshports.org/net/isc-dhcp44-client/ At this point you should have the IPv6 addresses and a prefix. I use the entr package to watch the dhcp6 lease file and then run a script as needed to adjust the IPv6 addresses assigned to the interfaces. You'll probably do it in a different way. I also use rtadvd to distribute addresses on my home network. The syntax for rtadvd is bizarre (and I'm being kind). The OpenBSD project just rewrote rtadvd as the rad (router advertisement daemon) and its syntax is much, much better. Hopefully at some point it will be ported to FreeBSD. Anyway, when I used FreeBSD, here is the rtadvd .conf I used. (addresses have been modified to protect the innocent) The fdcf... address is local to my home network. The 2601:0186:1234:... address was assigned via a prefix obtains from Comcast via dhcp. ===================================== default: \ :vltime#259200:pltime#82400: igb1:\ :maxinterval#45: \ :addrs#2: \ :addr0="fdcf:1234:2f4d:1::":prefixlen0#64: \ :addr1="2601:0186:1234:479::":prefixlen1#64: \ :rdnss="fdcf:1234:2f4d:1::1": igb2:\ :maxinterval#60: \ :addr="2601:0186:1234:47a::":prefixlen#64: \ :rdnss="2001:558:feed::1": ====================================== That gives my to subnets, with the one on the igb2 interface using Comcast's DNS. I hope this gives you a starting point... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 30 19:15:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78885143271B for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B877E6AB7F for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgYL-0004rZ-ET for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:15:13 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:15:13 -0700 From: The Doctor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Read Only Single Mode Message-ID: <20181230191513.GB15230@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B877E6AB7F X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.00)[0.003,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.40)[0.399,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: doctor.nl2k.ab.ca]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nl2k.ab.ca,quarantine]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.39)[0.386,0]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6171, ipnet:204.209.81.0/24, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:15:25 -0000 How do you correct read only devices in single mode? -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Merry Christmas 2018 and Happy New Year 2019!! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 03:16:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9563A141E928 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 03:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3CFB83B96 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 03:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.55.180]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MCGag-1gVaqe1sLy-009Qiu; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:16:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:16:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: The Doctor Cc: The Doctor via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Read Only Single Mode Message-Id: <20181231041609.aa9924c1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181230191513.GB15230@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> References: <20181230191513.GB15230@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:gXjagqa83PdCm8DEa3naLPDTpf3oO6mFDRbSSxnwPFaMJoOii4a gDcgHSW3h3mUARSpt4llHiKblxBn1JuxAoqk0T4y49Vak6jU2ypt7vm921Hp0yZV5h+3c7f P9DkYK4BurEzFJK/Ga70U6oTNzZT1bnI5RTceX3ZIuD/Z+DWmmRz3LWvx2TRZ574Y7YIVmZ DxD9Uz+MyEFeu6/N68RLg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:P5qI6+0qkjM=:Y4Ed99Ec2p0akPNBd/VunG B4tmLjVFjnV81inv8wkTQa3YOyWd3bTZ2vUELQEdWBkpT69cM/VkzDu4A8XQndIYBnxWvQe1Y I9JtVKEHWeG92r3PBd1cdMMKy7yIckHZRdvWho3juBLnao/w7pDs55HvgTnRXQjtEvN9U49au NvQJHXuQqJjtZFMLlV5j590MsBi5upc6dMmEvkPjj29TQoccEnci4Nr/UYnUX9MdxlPhA3wND Vko2A5IeiFhQHWz6BfZqL8Gx7fj1Rg0dhd6SK+REMbqtHQiQUS/AiJfOpNDfj17E0oJUhC5sC riqlozkON22aQqcXa4TjwBUkX2Pp/xoZamYFTi41JR6R2e20PBfa37kaHR1T0lcV3RMtXViGO /t6ZE+SWxDVwE/AMu5HlRQxIMW4WMSbLpjZ1DfSjeoiRAGR+MeT1GTnGwFFCuBqq9qskklmSB VBUO7RdhJ3ORVkcwKMwSskEg3uroC530CtCbAAypMl5xDSfa5SDugFzYlkaNRg2hYYQikzbeh eO1VtRzqbdi+rb1XJFOW8pXpQ3VD6o5Mlwuwb586UK1KvVtHXnmKXRlBCyKR5Croqm1tx5NkG KY6fpGfpfnwog3Jz8wbDLwjHUdgMzIGiHxcMCLvGNFl3jznkPW+o6Hw+e7UrhZTR8N/k2GWnf hdoq9BryLFU9FPqUVDCihlXzV2/rD788X2mAP0u1Vr3wUeL9MlCxEkr/lPuV0hIbAvIMlJfE/ Ndz7qqhHWa7AcdoQuJan9cDqrsrQr25HvNrccT9ZpibPJzdBauq0PmOtoB0= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B3CFB83B96 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.13 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[180.55.195.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.90)[0.899,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.17)[0.175,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.61)[0.614,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.05)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.35), asn: 8560(0.63), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 03:16:56 -0000 On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:15:13 -0700, The Doctor via freebsd-questions wrote: > How do you correct read only devices in single mode? What do you mean with "to correct"? If you are refering to disk devices to be checked and repaired by fsck, this only works on unmounted or read-only devices (while unmounted is the preferred state). But if "to correct" means how to mount a read-only device in read/write mode, i. e., re-mount, then the command "mount -uw " (-u = update, -w = write) is to be used. Did I understand your question correctly? ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 03:17:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29241141E92A for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 03:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EA483BA1 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 03:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from unknown (HELO leader.local) ([118.211.46.249]) by ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 31 Dec 2018 13:41:11 +1030 Subject: Re: /etc/resolv.conf overwritten by what? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca References: <961dc39c14de8d519801ca9fe3b2cdd9.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <1551791.MsCH1bHPGx@curlew> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <6abf5488-84ac-186e-a244-5fca2ccf8533@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 13:41:07 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1551791.MsCH1bHPGx@curlew> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E5EA483BA1 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ShaneWare.Biz]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.97)[0.972,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.superb.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.992,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[143.137.101.150.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4739, ipnet:150.101.0.0/16, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.47)[ipnet: 150.101.0.0/16(1.88), asn: 4739(0.51), country: AU(-0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 03:17:13 -0000 On 31/12/18 3:45 am, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Friday, 28 December 2018 15:15:54 GMT James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Something changed the contents of /etc/resolv.conf from this: >> >> search hamilton.harte-lyne.ca harte-lyne.ca >> # nameserver ::216:33 >> # nameserver ::216:34 >> # nameserver 127.0.0.1 >> nameserver 216.185.71.33 >> nameserver 216.185.71.34 >> options edns0 timeout:5 attempts:3 >> >> to this: >> >> # Generated by resolvconf >> search localdomain > > You need to add a line containing resolvconf=NO to /etc/resolvconf.conf. > > man 5 resolvconf.conf > Yeah this can get confusing, there are two config files - resolv.conf and resolvconf.conf and the command resolvconf. resolvconf reads resolvconf.conf to generate resolv.conf As suggested you can disable the generation of resolv.conf or you can adjust resolvconf.conf so that it generates resolv.conf the way you want. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 07:00:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C18D14273BD for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 210FF8C3F8 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gdrYl-000MmX-7y; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 00:00:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 00:00:23 -0700 From: The Doctor To: Polytropon Cc: The Doctor via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Read Only Single Mode Message-ID: <20181231070023.GA80127@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> References: <20181230191513.GB15230@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <20181231041609.aa9924c1.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181231041609.aa9924c1.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 210FF8C3F8 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.55)[-0.552,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.21)[-0.209,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.33)[0.330,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: doctor.nl2k.ab.ca]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nl2k.ab.ca,quarantine]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6171, ipnet:204.209.81.0/24, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:00:27 -0000 On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 04:16:09AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:15:13 -0700, The Doctor via freebsd-questions wrote: > > How do you correct read only devices in single mode? > > What do you mean with "to correct"? If you are refering to > disk devices to be checked and repaired by fsck, this only > works on unmounted or read-only devices (while unmounted is > the preferred state). But if "to correct" means how to mount > a read-only device in read/write mode, i. e., re-mount, then > the command "mount -uw " (-u = update, -w = write) > is to be used. > > Did I understand your question correctly? ;-) > More than likely. What is happening is a ufs file system oince in single user mode is not wanting to mount when I type in mount -a and that is not usually the case. > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Merry Christmas 2018 and Happy New Year 2019!! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 07:24:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948F614298B6 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83A0C8D7CB for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.55.180]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mi2Bb-1hH4ZX3Fcv-00e7kg; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 08:24:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 08:24:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: The Doctor Cc: The Doctor via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Read Only Single Mode Message-Id: <20181231082416.6a12e12b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181231070023.GA80127@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> References: <20181230191513.GB15230@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <20181231041609.aa9924c1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181231070023.GA80127@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:f/mPaF7/sIYaCy1qqVFvl4CNYBAOCdDpnKRSOEWwHxyXcqb+1jO GWJm7kw4r20BHyb84/uuF04sHlXpwb/BOot5U+lCVHPJY7mEqdtMbEM8X1+lrMo3RtbQOn2 cJ1MFfE6BrWSTLPl7DIMhqwgPs0+PoIowVnjAZUgvIx8m+ApgeyotWisSh/wRFt+ezm82/f 4jW1xsyC5pl2zPZrcsuDw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8LHheG9HPj4=:Qk7+M7+34vFiK0OM78/3BJ lwxIPYoJLooXyDgf1PVrmLRNASSjEXC8+KmNYEsCs0XeLVDjUvk6KtJBF4EEBg4Z3v55i29a4 vrZt2rf3nIxCQkrjd+r0n7hmQcbSt+RgbpopuBKz4SGtu+U7yjBuKuDMjBRTyskzIxSL3uK4e 17KSzbsNxrUh/m+cxRlWOoFnRHgCoVdGLTn1d65TjtEbEzNyMpjBkuz6OKw/BWej1CstKzEdE 4ObjfYiHgEG4X/DCT0Q0orSqDIuWcY/4rxwD4CI7SogD7pMhU7wlNADDv0EJv7tjb+IGdkPDJ RZWLpFMS8NYchU1WI0i651PrYG24kY6CxOf6xp9IKenAAOyFalyKGwt5aBHakBpa3sqrFO2k1 0CF5eA191niWqpcyLFgdwZP9LYb3pJX52UCIeE+QIZg61rdCrliTUlip0CvuMy/VlglcfzJwb KUM4SiZIg8InJfLLrnHz/yj2fdzaz3q7bBr7ZAErmg6X5mWJUh0SsGUauojMwWCOjExMGgZHJ y+DOYAYu7HK2ShcbHdqwHBoy78dP4upRz037seNtFBaR4p0a6peOtuV9WQ+VWfZaZefoo49/H rTWZeu8Ivws4Exs56tFWcvznyG2Hn9oGhaVDoq8Ej7cHuGsLL5em7cpyRnbed3lmumi5EAWDn Z/qlLOMnKPLeJuozElM6BI+gG3kdRuEtxjc83s8Ym98pjypLJzN9qDZjPwloVDLGEnrTWZxHl miASzD+AK8N0nNsEEofvkuMB0i0nEhnfOjGZhW62NfU2sDg46TLzuOQpilQ= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 83A0C8D7CB X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.07 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[180.55.195.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.83)[0.826,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.19)[0.189,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.61)[0.611,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.05)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.35), asn: 8560(0.63), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:24:52 -0000 On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 00:00:23 -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 04:16:09AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:15:13 -0700, The Doctor via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > How do you correct read only devices in single mode? > > > > What do you mean with "to correct"? If you are refering to > > disk devices to be checked and repaired by fsck, this only > > works on unmounted or read-only devices (while unmounted is > > the preferred state). But if "to correct" means how to mount > > a read-only device in read/write mode, i. e., re-mount, then > > the command "mount -uw " (-u = update, -w = write) > > is to be used. > > > > Did I understand your question correctly? ;-) > > > > > More than likely. > > What is happening is a ufs file system oince in single user mode > is not wanting to mount when I type in > mount -a and that is not usually the case. There is a reason for this specific behaviour, and the reason is intended: If the filesystem is in an inconsistent state, it cannot be mounted. Often you can force a read-only mount, but you should run fsck first in such a case (usually on the unmounted device). When you receive the message that the filesystem has been marked clean, a normal r/w mount should be possible again. This is what "mount -a" usually does in SUM, according to the options set in /etc/fstab - as long as the filesystems in question are clean. That's why a common procedure is "fsck && mount -u / && mount -a". :-) See "man 8 mount" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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It boots to the USB image, and gets through the first two pages that are shown in the Handbook. Then it tries to locate the partition to install to, and give me the mountroot> prompt. If I enter "?" it gives me a list of partitions from ada0p1 to ada0p9. This is what the current partition looks like in my Fedora bash shell terminal: cgdisk 1.0.4 Disk Drive: sda Size: 976773168, 465.8 GiB Part. # Size Partition Type Partition Name ---------------------------------------------------------------- 1007.0 KiB free space 1 1023.0 MiB Windows RE Ba 2 360.0 MiB EFI System EFI System Partition 3 128.0 MiB Microsoft reserved Mi 4 192.0 GiB Microsoft basic data Ba 5 128.0 GiB FreeBSD UFS Basic data partition 156.0 MiB free space 6 1024.0 MiB Linux filesystem Fedora Linux 7 127.0 GiB Unknown Fedora Linux 8 450.0 MiB Windows RE 9 15.7 GiB Microsoft basic data Ba 5.0 MiB free space As you see, partition 5 is my target, so I enter: mountroot> ufs:/dev/ada0p5 I get the message "failed with error 2 (unknown filetype system)" Am I making a mistake to pre-format my FreeBSD partiton? I also tried leaving it as blank space, but then there is no partition to target for the install. Also, I wonder if I don't have some GPT vs MBR problem: [root@pavilion-23-attlocal-net dev]# gdisk sda GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.4 Partition table scan: MBR: protective BSD: not present APM: not present GPT: present Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT. Any clues would be appreciated. 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Got an issue where apache24 installed from ports segfaults > and dumps core after an upgrade from 11.2 to 12.0-RELEASE. > > This appears to be an issue with OpenSSL. The /var/log/messages file > just says core dumped, but running gdb on the core file produces this > output: > > # gdb /usr/local/sbin/httpd /usr/local/httpd.core > > .. > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/sbin/httpd...done. > [New LWP 100270] > Core was generated by `/usr/local/sbin/httpd -DNOHTTPACCEPT'. > Program terminated with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > #0 0x0000000800bd89e3 in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.9 > (gdb) > > The apache24 port will start normally if I run make config and disable > SSL support. Replying to my own question: Replacing apache24 and openssl with nginx and libressl did the trick. nginx also fought with openssl from ports. Same gdb termination as above, only now from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.46. Switching to libressl and recompiling all ports that depended on it cleared up this issue. dn > > I followed the normal upgrade procedure using freebsd-update and > rebuilding all ports using the 10 steps described in the portmaster > manpage. > > I've pasted the output from apachectl -M below. Please let me know if > you need other info. > > Thanks in advance for troubleshooting clues on getting apache24 to start > with TLS/SSL support enabled. > > dn > > > > # apachectl -M > Loaded Modules: > core_module (static) > so_module (static) > http_module (static) > authn_file_module (shared) > authn_dbd_module (shared) > authn_core_module (shared) > authz_host_module (shared) > authz_groupfile_module (shared) > authz_user_module (shared) > authz_core_module (shared) > access_compat_module (shared) > auth_basic_module (shared) > socache_shmcb_module (shared) > dbd_module (shared) > reqtimeout_module (shared) > filter_module (shared) > mime_module (shared) > log_config_module (shared) > env_module (shared) > headers_module (shared) > setenvif_module (shared) > version_module (shared) > ssl_module (shared) > mpm_prefork_module (shared) > unixd_module (shared) > status_module (shared) > autoindex_module (shared) > cgi_module (shared) > vhost_alias_module (shared) > dir_module (shared) > alias_module (shared) > php7_module (shared) > wsgi_module (shared) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 17:31:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839C2143A74A for ; 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TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.91)[ipnet: 40.64.0.0/10(-2.32), asn: 8075(-2.13), country: US(-0.08)]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[18.13.92.40.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:31:59 -0000 On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:45:06 -0800, David Newman stated: >12.0-RELEASE-p1, apache24-2.4.37, openssl-1.0.2q,1 > >Greetings. Got an issue where apache24 installed from ports segfaults >and dumps core after an upgrade from 11.2 to 12.0-RELEASE. Did you rebuild everything after the upgrade? I had some problems too, but not with Apache24 and openssl from ports. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 17:53:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D075143B146 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53195757AA for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id l12so29767103qtf.8 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 09:53:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+PligZkVOmTSE2TKFUMyQWML0w+41tp65wDEAUZYe3g=; b=k8qd1yxSL4m+vn44zkSHWuFVAf6MMieBdcfHvQQTiTwyWiaJXCIXHgzcDzAspN8qZl Cntp6RyuGoom0yXkOnox6B7VYs3dQH3ht3ET4HTXcFxZ3p/YXp4JnGzQQTedBDnYtUSo rfjELsVekjI7Gn+qNQq3js118KcpbUjgS08/oOqKNu1WEfaUdeuP5rdXhdupwJmdci9f P+Erb/3b+tFWGmTeizridhBRavJQaHKfeJbfMM56XFE1RDwcy0OZHVnthyKEPvcyrDkB qO1sBMTniuRPJAEgqGGh4ws04NqI2ZOKoG4x6hO/CbpO3/Uxqbz1S0lA13JF1ULhJxpJ rD8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+PligZkVOmTSE2TKFUMyQWML0w+41tp65wDEAUZYe3g=; b=kNHn53YGrfOEmrQhgmulqR0AJUFTRonewjtRxs4watDe4icD+XT8ovfR8+BVZzQlD4 ROvQW6h+4Ay9kkN2SXPd/nQemj9bCH1fvIY+/eo2asyO4lDQa92WTjIbFHFEd5DPKJTs Vudi+vS8G2CGoDvc7bizWxmpaJvFQbEGSWWG1dKk8+WCVsYpA1BaFIjTvLGwzKfdlbIa MUyanZZHopMar/RtVtHjhM2cctQnGJxFjo2caRY/EOoUYzP3IOJKWtl49/xCNhhlEzSC hfuO+cEJ06rINF1vR5QSU1BuDg3CjK0iamlTnE7/nhDIvNh0r+jcxGRZBa7XR171BW8o kHqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcKiqH9Ki60bUStdwTEg7jKf5PrPqA2nPcDlF+QgCQwywCdKIYr g+M6ZHXl7QU+GbbWI56e717NMPsWJZVwJAIVkYC1ehxnPNg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7kyBryYauHEOGMnm3f1V8DrxyIowmW9nP8/J7mRJHx/ebX8PbcIvfdRGKeqtLW/LazHTDywXYfCWydf6ncLfg= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:b0db:: with SMTP id p27mr37581412qvc.73.1546278828589; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 09:53:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181227122517.GA3208@c720-r314251> <20181227124218.GT22302@albert.catwhisker.org> <20181227140035.GA2874@c720-r314251> <20181227154446.69917744.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181227161111.GA2444@c720-r314251> In-Reply-To: <20181227161111.GA2444@c720-r314251> From: Mark Moellering Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:53:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DHCP problems while connecting with a Wifi AP To: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 53195757AA X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=k8qd1yxS; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of markmoellering@psyberation.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::835 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=markmoellering@psyberation.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[psyberation.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.14)[ip: (-7.11), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.95), asn: 15169(-1.56), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.956,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:53:50 -0000 Matthias, Not sure what problem you are having but a month or so ago, I suddenly had trouble connecting to my wi-fi router/AP. I made some changes and I now connect every time. Here is what I did. I changed my entry in rc.conf to: ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WP= A SYNCDHCP" (instead of DHCP) And in /boot/loader.conf, I added; wlan_wep_load=3D"YES" wlan_ccmp_load=3D"YES" wlan_tkip_load=3D"YES" I hope this helps -- Mark On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:15 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa jueves, diciembre 27, 2018 a las 03:44:46p. m. +0100, Polytro= pon > escribi=C3=B3: > > > On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 15:00:35 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > How can I proof in FreeBSD that the DHCP request really is sent? > > > > You can monitor the device with "tcpdump" during the process. > > The DHCP handshake is pretty easy to spot. > > Yes, of course and I do so. On FreeBSD the tcpdump only shows the > outgoing DHCP request (not sure if it really goes out) and on the Ubuntu > AP it does not show the incoming DHCP request. > > Any other idea? > > matthias > > > -- > Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ > +49-176-38902045 > Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub > October, 7 -- The GDR was different: Peace instead of Bundeswehr and wars= , > Druschba > instead of Nazis, to live instead of to survive. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 22:36:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D190141E6EE for ; 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Mon, 31 Dec 2018 14:36:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from tejay.local (cpe-75-82-86-131.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.86.131]) by mail8.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1DBE654010 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 14:36:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Upgrade to 12.0 broke apache24 with SSL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2d62babb-21d8-b76e-5321-255929ebb770@networktest.com> From: David Newman Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=dnewman@networktest.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFnmfMEBEACt5x64cZy4FPct3SaH44BMAYkghlJDxI11XpHUJNFAuJ8MD8WgF5F6Nc9C PCl7WzIHAwgWkM2ntAgcOeKvBiFTtzMfiIczfgIAkhiyANYAm3MIH4Li9X0NltYtROQ7FUn+ H4IWZ0SF/BZH1jfoLRNVvuLHdXVYrol/9sGlSI1KTpzpt3GIgeTxdOgTy0nO0HO7c0EBTnRv L3fyYs2E9XgmqsHlFqHBvF1OV0HjVJsqohQxb9iReZEL2UseTZYIYOhKizI3oJOnwPmf7zYg E4jzL422tHbbj4Qwh8l4kZDvy3J+S+KmqFD+IvOUbFBmHZKKB8oFZvLrjd7PLRs0ORSaseqA di0TEUAC3RpmybB1iuukvYhayeLV9afwXWFGNTqrAGCrGPR9umP7OeKGIm6SHrmGnqMlAAz6 qfVITcbhdne2JiqLaZ23B1ezTmJwPPbDGi7G6Yk3Z5pzuZBgq/L1ZyenUBmIcx95C1kVmUtl POJJ3RUNXqJLkjfZhGcmQczR2U0WoOuHVWCmztxa3yhkQETjKhmlIkBV6pj2Bc/mtynVBZg8 XclC6f4Q9bADDOiwO6uDbqI8Bpa1X8YY7iL8QJy2JHACT/j/+mji6Er8c+xU9qkxNmjc3E2a KpCg7gIqnWFj/Ag76AHkPkIo2SO2QINyRMgnFMQeS6j7ij7BOwARAQABtEtEYXZpZCBOZXdt YW4gKERhdmlkIE5ld21hbiBOZXR3b3JrIFRlc3Qgd29yayBrZXkpIDxkbmV3bWFuQG5ldHdv cmt0ZXN0LmNvbT6JAj8EEwEIACkFAlnmfMECGwMFCQeGH4AHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgID AQIeAQIXgAAKCRB8vD6mldfDUqfvD/4zARgEeKZqNrJWOK9YMkIah6C6dMohRH0Pz9AkMz9+ 9i9VhdZf2Pv0hq+IEGw+6ISQZL/xiNmq4l6rBioU+AAq98CZq8sh0VLSSeEqYDbo9anvSu2W j1MzhC0BKhlaFPgy08EYZlN2z4pbSvG/ARc0xfTiGlU2jA+iEiMNDbHveGEH1iwAXV3JGA9T bIpe/D5pVO2aemTsePf6+OiATE7M3crqKYZX7WMejqMbOuXzWbeCh/HoDnBBSFDIHR3lQfqR 6jwvb/NogoBioMx6I9vtXvwkqVgp4/jxgkK+I1X4BCdXvC1s3qnJQ9lQT3kFPCJBhQ3qcORv Lvx5svBtp9undPvvp+7SEOBIZDyAfAtSRvBHSv86Y8XnTSrseqk/XtcQbsHs7eVAYcg7F0dR gXFNFUMg67VgacXfyi2GrmkIvA3Zh8h39pZBiTiKfizMhn10gFPhHI6zndR5mYVO5sGUVMVt Mw4f0MDiKHmgFZcs/zcO89OSx3vRwAn5YfBdCagrX1VPYAgGxsfPhnUT8BjmqAFLbHHpb23n HUtfepMIeNaN76/PcxQJUInx/9MfceKL/XGJ8uThM3Ujdv8x6IS7mzEqSbMQTqVVi7loIfP3 qqP87k4Z6G7IMNXKk/Mg84kLTq7YD48pm9S1ME+ghd7wraX2tcbMycuZsrE4XfI8ibkCDQRZ 5nzBARAA9fYZMETrO0l7alXxUVxYxLYVWulKh3GBz9yAeSXSEIJ+q8f0WsDK5zPd6ndBzY2k pT2DJ/ND1NfZJlEo5o27eETQJkpIMV38ZINZz/gVThMIIpCHZeSMW3JveZYEB1xYLFLxeILI ECBAO/h0ASdRz0KYLJldWmuWBUd3tsxhOpK/lZ/s5wbFpstAzsAiw0sm2de4UpNpmGHc1x1j eJH4WBKIAUkZLDXUWEkN1aSVMGWH/2yH87x/J/Mjrj49T+6RwwUohSgOQV3q1XjGjqDq/tpN BPODp32z9GchIvmCU4cRF0uQKpUXtu0fpwnmc1W5M/1aVPQ33vgEFcS/brpWMf7xLIL9EGDp 4/4BukImG4wOx1L3GuKIw5XXNLA9uCriWXr7NSvI00AhXR7m/NbE9ZLIHKfTWssFf9hYnh3p x2n1E+Hy/okqDppfGynHUJjcl5UwP2v6lKO4VO8Gz6wdhl2sYU9pNT6/8Hfp9lnY0BTbFv5Y zZfD77NdCJoDwEd2FUgRzb4vqjwoswci8U73pcOCylbQbAEC5scy/Bd5BOoSIy0kGaQYqumA 3rGXzDn4B02xiYiraNIH28jZPmWzYGM/jncajRFYARZFh/K1OW8Wl3JILAlwZP4VO6ECDj3r qv9EwUv6gxsikXtCT0xjnHL/N5+UQBIQOrx7/TKb80MAEQEAAYkCJQQYAQgADwUCWeZ8wQIb DAUJB4YfgAAKCRB8vD6mldfDUvPlD/4rpb17nhmvSnAy+ShanY2p40M4kgo46Mwmvm3Dmug8 5P+ECRtmhTZ+kEU8Ici/u7FFvE1WHydeNCdE/tOaJ3qXMLBOd4SiB+sa21E0veqR28qUmymI Ti/gFhMpL2Cfa5oPQj5sq/fdEPJzpAoaHfxUMPIUZ7ebM96syazndEFJAFS9MO00/SJ/HcUx 8VMypzqoG+EyBs4c+PThNRyuUH5x8gh4uABILTYIwqUE4HESpRef9ETdJpBkWhsQqxo3Nvoa TLjZH0LNnMyZXOb/aUeQBm0TSGda+on+0BdI70QgI42mu6ovKup32eUhHh7C9scKv8NJYo1Z 4PqRQVIEPznCizZ90aBP1Ia0rJfcADzFNrOQru1WXmm+zXu/TYdESyoL5MRAlitEIs34oeJF X8wMgkHZBFVhvEm60ynH2HZQRLWGIVBnW7oJ2apTx10L2AZWZvLQ6P8pn4eZMPX3+f854d4Q D4yEhE9Ec7CTiqmo6A5+bHGi/yf8VzxMNorlyHCIFZZdfm5vctcg78iUfqsKyvAULpmjLKyA YkX0qv2EnCMUb9urwITWbQTySOVazfjOjRPUO1z5RbfGwCMwNdW8ahf94jtLaVbvVp+7F8dD Y81Qhcbc2MAOWzP1ghr+wsyAyvzVJuDS0kDh6XjpuZddSBEYAh+aI8Kcwqsr75INMg== Organization: Network Test Inc. 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Got an issue where apache24 installed from ports segfaults >> and dumps core after an upgrade from 11.2 to 12.0-RELEASE. > > Did you rebuild everything after the upgrade? I had some problems too, > but not with Apache24 and openssl from ports. Yes. I followed the 10 steps described in the portmaster man page for rebuilding all ports. dn From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 00:30:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E53142F18E; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 00:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa41.google.com (mail-vk1-xa41.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 846B46AD5F; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 00:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk1-xa41.google.com with SMTP id d201so6305059vka.0; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:30:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9zyXyglqbHWnTc4PIStkwbGzahy43ZO/6bkvWwQ4bmM=; b=FXzMb/t0L+NjsLRr693p0jMTeAFRr2ixXN6a6C31yFSSTSwuQCWa93+fp2Xs8K8vKq 0BWIXKsRDY4kwXM+aodwGVlD17OtA1BHw33ukU/xUtc3N0fCWOr6JbbyGwnYXFmYk4RK SyQGbf7xPXWZR5GBa88Ow8u9/zmLN10Cgd24w4VsxIytFy/tsrNHu4gsjvVWo/T5TBvY rJTnDznps1iAy6obmoP62JLA1ljs/TTzrw0TGtxCcFJorOtMlmSpw4Ra+tOtKxhK0gpF UhDe/WKPXw9hzawFMWwFE/qLVv7k7HxdFENE+zgp+seRfVF/2wz8+V44oNLdsZ1g1HVT 1zGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9zyXyglqbHWnTc4PIStkwbGzahy43ZO/6bkvWwQ4bmM=; b=RXcKtboMkBs4wAM3oH4up0srUcCOdbB0pWM3orQsY5zge1KRwazNGTPZ7mM6LjM3+M F3JFTEKTjMtrpP5Z+terODoTiu8NnUtp/WPGn1XN54WJUlcRWFdWEssP8jJVLJ05Fx15 m26pK1rci5PBW6E6DFZv8rlzNTJNeJxfciO4ApHPkc2Y+rp6LLxjZZMqYCUBbUUldQtb cR9L3tEMZGJMeK/Gm+EK1Zh6IiRdQXCyMQ9Jwl5xCAGZp/z+enQK7dyiKSX0wc6tArDF jMRIWEYfPx2RiKMRoo8XTx3/g+9N2xmBjLcOGB92zFyftGpO1V70L7qVEu0xxIuqv3Dc 1KRA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukf+4zwI9GpJHQgvFQEdRx9YfyBcPud/q+u4FzhkvqzuAg/ip9g+ kxawcSbgfnTY6bkJ0miBuh7+twT9ecZuSJlwH9yTD/yf X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5TXIWLDBzJV3duRrphZJMKjquC3NyMmkrk6Spg1Gim+wQGPf1NmPy6tmFlkd47Mkmg5IVAHVJQ7Fw0SW+xJGk= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:ac4:: with SMTP id 187mr14689822vkk.31.1546389019488; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:30:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:30:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 846B46AD5F X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=FXzMb/t0; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::a41 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.23 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.23)[-0.226,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.15)[-0.155,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.10)[ip: (3.27), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.08), asn: 15169(-1.60), country: US(-0.08)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.a.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.540,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 00:30:22 -0000 Hello world in 2019 :-) I cannot make my Touchpad two finger scrolling on CF-C2 Panasonic Toughbook. It works on Windows very nice. I have made it work only once in Xorg but never again.. I have tried on 11.2 and 12.0. Both with PSM+MOUSED and PSM0+SYNAPTICS. No success. As I understand, the old way was to use xf86-input-synaptics. The new way is to use PSM with synaptics support enabled and then use moused + xf86-input-mouse..? I would like to stick to the new way of using PSM kernel driver, then moused and sysmouse as mouse input for Xorg. The problem is that both PSM nor SYNAPTICS does not seem to recognise the device. I get ID 0 for PSM. Tried various flags. No success.. Any hints welcome :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 00:36:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCC5142F603; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 00:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06FB46B3BF; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 00:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id v24so9463006uap.13; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:36:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/I4cwU8EXJluS+aCAxK5cuIbVaDMFDKuLimvQp0GqIw=; b=LTbTKDwo8ajG/3MPRZU1RfCBxcQISl/NRazcN4gQp0fTzLDhIVFWSHs7FC6f0ZKCQ9 TyNNu0mW9ZNpCMgvrKVjkw8Jc+6p4t5iPpT6olN38Oy5qJ17DGNz+BaHcZowE0XkC+lX UedMw8CXc3r7pduZo9ZUmzP03XPv5RbJKK5I6tKucUCnBvHedEuhVuLPoZYWp6EHHkeR yGKLfSoyf7Ngl6JZkxlTG+Pews01eIBXa0fKPDR6vqmkftULVfyNiQMyTpdrzRIB4S8G xXIXEZaqVpCpV4C62KX4hnSycXji3HdtnLV5ek26l84ceqg5n1pX6o01jEhnQEGLG8Hb ROOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/I4cwU8EXJluS+aCAxK5cuIbVaDMFDKuLimvQp0GqIw=; b=Ynjv9NwQs5lyS5WnrxMB3VcDpknNMPArQ06QPON3ldzkYmO8cOQtF4itRkI7+CQp6o +7xS1svmxc33AdfTOgLRbytadFywZqFkogoaUnMPQO0BralP9F7KM8AVHEjiBH1AJQ9d o0OKz0nt2Y8kizW9BCFw+q7McuPFZw1YZEw7D9vrRFCUOuB1eC/kE88DNesvd0DETfqn HS4aQ49bTdwZpfliFUAbOW5SixB/tjtlJ8MoS0R/654suEszvAo0nZQBWDzByWNM+xW3 XQL8AkVO6jovbMcKmJUgP5ZBQklPCAJOR6IGRg1V23yMxrK2htBeoKjyUfVaiphTVNCF yBSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukeVb6HAh6XwIEX+Kbx6f+cWc3CL0oMc/1JLEyM7TNjJIrMs96dz BX5+5Gsl/lWwlBzfo6HSBb6r0ymnOh2GIX/z3oYfz9NP X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN48yn8QF+ESQ7P1ICMFIvL6VIFK1Au82+bexahoJFtcD3FGakyhZnrnSbCbMRdCWmBmqGvKQqouP0UO/yufO0Q= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:5b9b:: with SMTP id y27mr15834665uae.30.1546389368082; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:36:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 06FB46B3BF X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=LTbTKDwo; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::935 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.86 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.75)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.08), asn: 15169(-1.60), country: US(-0.08)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.921,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 00:36:10 -0000 Hello world in 2019 :-) I have recently upgraded 11.2 to 12.0. I made AMDGPU work as my desktop Xorg driver. However I still did not make it work with OpenCL.. I have some error messages about kernel code missing.. and I get the Segmentation Faults at some point in clinfo.. do I miss anything? Did anyone make OpenCL+AMDGPU+RX580 work? Any hints appreciated :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 01:05:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDE514300B3 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x22d.google.com (mail-oi1-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6950B6C093 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id j21so24042404oii.8 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:05:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=F/ID5aItkNEV4J3h8EZPIMWBtqhWMQfkCTsUi804+RU=; b=tjdsUe/EM5rZ1mhIboElJU1p/+52qFrtXPLXM5wuN1jfdINe5OAW+3tIlIjcIaQCx9 Xt8ugDjvIujcngcINL6ph7JOkAbpmphUvLpu05aJU8ojYgP1GZm2wtp/pVG1Wd7oUzdy N73Zq3+mLyJDnRsjh0zwBAZ0ScemZnzTv3r+FOmZNCHePkaYPcrAmTX3/mrVYlgp3qXs 3PrFCmMld++wHt6m2LK8QAApsf+M4eiMM4djqFzapNWlVqBsWxmkBYbiZAfj/KNNyJ+b igbQdpb/WK90DmMqpVHLAgTCgHCjOQr56L/f38aztzeAZqNGtvaBBzy8tr9NRIRxxNMF UGbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=F/ID5aItkNEV4J3h8EZPIMWBtqhWMQfkCTsUi804+RU=; b=pErVw4ZE/CljkWRyUrClMt/tZZNCmtjcnKqZ5NsJ/Lw9/MBVOFtpfNiTf9mQkOHC3c 14OthMBP0jnbUYllW/ilklgW+xQxLDDrHwR2TFoE0EMQEY8oIIuvMcXGIhztobVI71q/ GCbrvrHV7ZpZ6n0S18O8t3j81ZD84qH6RgDNARVkbmw4tJObdI+UqiD07RLDNifPFNTT z6/twNIptF5A4uYInQwyJnwe+z4OrswJy5ZfJPZ23Qqcc3Ck10gQXQfWad4tzYYQ/VPr 8eUV+Lb6NvNWBzb+pFCbHh1XhZtB8CI9MdVwOJUGkAUlH6rhFzitCblI77ijLXqgRr2g iuWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZrqQZ21oE6wJC0LqimXUhUVabP4IHJHPKZVweG3SkaELxuMYzO E1TAsn/W9q4BIs1m+5or3qEldx94E06fjsWJ44w0/zP1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6yJ7ahhNmUf+D7xDhGeMIZq5Uy6Z6unr9Dk2mhvS04K5SR2kF90ij5nHMyFFQWMjy/wO51NrD0J7l7b/6ekIA= X-Received: by 2002:aca:3403:: with SMTP id b3mr27106853oia.242.1546391126093; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:05:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 17:05:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Video resolution in a VM To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6950B6C093 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=tjdsUe/E; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kurtbuff@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kurtbuff@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.62 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.64)[ip: (-9.43), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.08), asn: 15169(-1.60), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 01:05:28 -0000 All, I'm not able to get display resolution greater than 1280x720 - I'd really like to get it to 1920x1080, to match the laptop capabilities. I'm running FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 in a VM on VMware Workstation Pro 14.1.3. The host is Win10 Enterprise 1803, on a Lenovo T470p with 32gb of RAM and a quad core 2.8GHz i7-7700HQ processor. I've assigned the VM 100gb of disk, 2 procs (1x2 cores) and 8gb of RAM. Ports are all up to date. FreeBSD is running xfce4 for my desktop, and I've installed open-vm-tools, and it launches at boot. The laptop shows two video displays in hdwwiz.cpl in Windows: Intel HD Graphics 630 NVIDIA GeForce 940MX but it looks as if the NVIDIA isn't active. Don't know why that is. When I run xvinfo, it shows no display available. For "display", pciconf says: vgapci0@pci0:0:15:0: class=0x030000 card=0x040515ad chip=0x040515ad rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VMware' device = 'SVGA II Adapter' class = display subclass = VGA The .vmx files shows the following for the display: vmotion.checkpointSVGAPrimarySize = "8323072" svga.maxHeight = "1080" svga.maxWidth = "1920" svga.autodetect = "FALSE" svga.vramSize = "8323072" Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 07:01:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7361438222 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 07:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91B1D766AB for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 07:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1546412484; x=1549004484; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=kCp3DDNAfarBzrt/dR4pGK2cYC3u5k2GGrEyjtpEsKA=; b=lVNFxQ1oPLdPDNLDPVNKmwfZBhQBnnCa7fKKTx1Q0xsjMBVK3A6CDmZY/2QMkMnLsrMZDQlWZzdO9jJqk5CbsCoFqWy8/tExJHWdLt0ozM6FnczNOK0x1g+ilF9E1q0MErKBJ8PCNe35X7lYo0SXtl37VmVdfJJD1KZTa+et1rY= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTEwMDAwMDM5NDZhMTguZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 2 Jan 2019 02:01:17 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 2 Jan 2019 02:01:16 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1geaWf-000Oih-MQ; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:01:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 07:01:13 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL Message-Id: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 91B1D766AB X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=lVNFxQ1o; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.13 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.21)[ip: (-0.53), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.25), asn: 7381(-0.20), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.09)[0.085,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:01:25 -0000 On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:35:58 +0100 Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > Hello world in 2019 :-) > > I have recently upgraded 11.2 to 12.0. I made AMDGPU work as my > desktop Xorg driver. However I still did not make it work with Do you not get this in Xorg.0.log ? [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") If not what did you do to prevent it ? -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 07:17:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18271438AB4; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 07:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrnils@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x232.google.com (mail-lj1-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CF68771C8; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 07:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrnils@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x232.google.com with SMTP id k19-v6so26249915lji.11; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 23:17:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jgpvAOUZz2GX6XXmKmUQcLy4/0q4oz+4gx1ywqfm5Wo=; b=Qa0XSSRNl36h65S4bMPaxRgzVmh+ArkNsgA6mu3f5gGDpxwTNL0p6UQBufyM1aHPoF NLIWV2F69eMmpZsOGHxVG+L+iH2FuQrlH4M1H+W9HU3ymEv0/tkKaYwY4L6VvhIrW86Z 4N6wm2HxpRnfg88wSb2mXVth3+ZKsFA/1jicbiDWn6M0+dWTSr37QLiM1bh4aNEyZ7RP d+R9dWgTiNJjbsx51kfUZFr0iC7SgPb5xOqSQWIbx9XZ85wK9VG0SKOS0yP2ni8Egc25 QP3k7wWkeTEm86Sh0fu3JJCrmJfaTwlFEXxLIMUnaLdkjKRKFpXUnq/+2zGGniUZTaib 1EEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jgpvAOUZz2GX6XXmKmUQcLy4/0q4oz+4gx1ywqfm5Wo=; b=VTMAuPhuXVneieb94YM+5jSeR0cB1aCO24i03fSNJLKoVTvfZDdl1/z86aB4wt8DxF 6i46YybyC4S352I1oy5ojaFmA+OczIE6Diz2mdm7RU2HR+6CBGkAVduG+bNJRSOdKzZ8 zp/rqs1ycjaOJ0qmCWQbivh2dpobadRjHTGW1lGB4icLcUYt6HspT9iYD81KFqujCE3t Fd9Rmlj8a5rhHLuZeTv9Arxfsa6FY9MAnRn5r5hTT3X6/77XPO6xMHA3+MEI/LCsTBqm 2y6yXYlgaDn5ThnDWtR7MInVLjIoXd83/S9ClKCYm8PzeZl/ESICl++uQtyUN/wH5wv5 kbnw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfYo9w//6bxAlplVyBCUl87r4Ta2fTMTPtWlzPTMV3nHynd0QRV Ionya7js4TdRQyjRyGM+3Tznoh+ZTk3VxfSv7F9LHg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7IyyytKOadgTeUYyRwpM8xxKptMV76EhCgnybvHF0CS6q/+DG1ixFNdtVNCLUF45Ef7o1aP3xkz1zxTBbyIPA= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:851a:: with SMTP id j26-v6mr23440503lji.163.1546413437412; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 23:17:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Andreas Nilsson Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 08:17:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: Mailinglists FreeBSD , FreeBSD X11 mailing list X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1CF68771C8 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Qa0XSSRN; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of andrnils@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=andrnils@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.59)[ip: (-9.41), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.83), asn: 15169(-1.61), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.75)[-0.747,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:17:21 -0000 On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 01:30 Tomasz CEDRO Hello world in 2019 :-) > > I cannot make my Touchpad two finger scrolling on CF-C2 Panasonic > Toughbook. It works on Windows very nice. I have made it work only > once in Xorg but never again.. > > I have tried on 11.2 and 12.0. Both with PSM+MOUSED and > PSM0+SYNAPTICS. No success. > > As I understand, the old way was to use xf86-input-synaptics. The new > way is to use PSM with synaptics support enabled and then use moused + > xf86-input-mouse..? > > I would like to stick to the new way of using PSM kernel driver, then > moused and sysmouse as mouse input for Xorg. > > The problem is that both PSM nor SYNAPTICS does not seem to recognise > the device. I get ID 0 for PSM. Tried various flags. No success.. > > Any hints welcome :-) > Tomek > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello, I believe psm+moused is the old way. Anyhow, have you set he.psm.synaptics_support=1 in loader.conf? 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I made AMDGPU work as my > desktop Xorg driver. However I still did not make it work with > OpenCL.. I have some error messages about kernel code missing.. and I > get the Segmentation Faults at some point in clinfo.. do I miss > anything? > > Did anyone make OpenCL+AMDGPU+RX580 work? Yes, you need two things: - you might have to run OpenCL applications with LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libthr.so.3 (when they're single thread applications like clinfo) https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214204 - you have to rebuild the kernel driver with this patch https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/33#issuecomment-422793245 keep in mind that Clover is not very good. It can't yet handle Blender, doesn't have image support for Darktable, etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 11:24:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E07143FB21 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B326887371 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:24:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:24:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id BD7D5A2D-6AD7-4F73-B6EA-58C81923C9CE.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:24:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:24:24 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Tomasz CEDRO , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Message-Id: <1546428264.1787.1@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=+EP0R/VbrI7QlpzDi7t7PDPPh1VnT+b6jdpCo61dQRA=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=duQbkTaguwHeCReCexgMxS7y5NFHjue0KEEZEqnd++agt7fJqhjAoZUh4uVZZ1kaPyDx9BX0D1W8avzLuRekfD2gWaq2V4uO1ymd6UGjk0mEBDACSWhDtZgmemkxlCsvvxwdbOYyXJCZUlJC9EwIB8K8CV9CL4ElpOZ4q6AhmCo= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B326887371 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=duQbkTag; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.64 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: aspmx1.migadu.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.64)[ip: (-9.86), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-3.77), asn: 16276(0.45), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:24:27 -0000 On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:01 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:35:58 +0100 > Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > >> Hello world in 2019 :-) >> >> I have recently upgraded 11.2 to 12.0. I made AMDGPU work as my >> desktop Xorg driver. However I still did not make it work with > > Do you not get this in Xorg.0.log ? > > [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of > /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so > failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") > > If not what did you do to prevent it ? This should never happen. I'm curious as to how you even got this message :) Do you have permissions to /dev/drm/* and /dev/dri/*? (video group) Do you have the latest libdrm and mesa installed? Try running with MESA_DEBUG=1 LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose to see more debug info, but you're probably already getting 'MESA-LOADER: failed to retrieve device information', right? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 11:27:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6AE143FE57 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD0A87740 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:27:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 0E42049F-B1AE-4570-83F7-3B642A83EA7B.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:27:49 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:27:49 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1546428469.1787.2@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=mc1X+cdTqaBDRylXF1M4Xmivd3VACma7QfJ6ZMuCCHs=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=ENz8kSMr6ZA41iK2XGp5bzav6jrgjkutzgZCR13xSXav8EBnOdvqbrJf5bD+WdsnsNHFLXKyqh1G5K5nFQd5YASto75PvWJImUPMpDL9JSdEp67MgfiXofe2NksoQ2jqL2siCM26bZaUlkwhRnfFsU4shcoFcVEeM2IGynzU0Ec= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2CD0A87740 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=ENz8kSMr; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: aspmx1.migadu.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.66)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-3.88), asn: 16276(0.45), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:27:52 -0000 On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:30 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > Hello world in 2019 :-) > > I cannot make my Touchpad two finger scrolling on CF-C2 Panasonic > Toughbook. It works on Windows very nice. I have made it work only > once in Xorg but never again.. > > I have tried on 11.2 and 12.0. Both with PSM+MOUSED and > PSM0+SYNAPTICS. No success. > > As I understand, the old way was to use xf86-input-synaptics. The new > way is to use PSM with synaptics support enabled and then use moused + > xf86-input-mouse..? > > I would like to stick to the new way of using PSM kernel driver, then > moused and sysmouse as mouse input for Xorg. > > The problem is that both PSM nor SYNAPTICS does not seem to recognise > the device. I get ID 0 for PSM. Tried various flags. No success.. Make sure you have hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 in /boot/loader.conf moused is *not* the new way. Forget moused, disable it completely, it is designed only for basic mice, it will never work with touchpads' advanced capabilities. The new way is evdev/libinput. Unfortunately evdev wasn't enabled by default in 12.0-RELEASE, I think you have to switch to 12-STABLE snapshots at least (or rebuild a 12 kernel manually). 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R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:29:06 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 09:18:20 +0100 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 12/21/18 5:40 PM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > > Having powerd running or not does not make any difference. > > After further investigation/testing, powerd is the culprit. > Earlier I tried stopping it and I confirm it makes no difference; now > I realize just starting it bring the CPU down by a factor of 50% > until rebooting. > > After disabling it in /etc/rc.conf my machine is behaving properly. > > I'll try enabling it again when I'll upgrade to 12 (although that > might happen not so soon). disabling powerd on FreeBSD 12.0 cuts 2h away from a build world. The downside is that the CPU runs some 15K warmer. I know of the limitations powerd has, but these are real huge limitations compared to what powerd saves. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 13:26:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AB8141EDE0 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C77DC8C28B for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1546435563; x=1549027563; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=5p2HNip4yMzGMyRssBf+DB4JhsxhN4jCusnJnhEcuz8=; b=uxBirzKjaYYVMaJJnT//Q8KWMQY5m+GvwfT9E+5KNSE2M08LhsNIaBH8GW3rX8935HR0p6LZG5fuW1WQa6FIkyFH9RMdkdjfoZwRjVXQGeQiHp9HkMpahm6gec+Bu3mFtPq+NlYf/jSmDD8PsghJuRgolI9auP6UTAlnbnwXsUw= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTEwMDAwMDM5NmRkNjAuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.186.235.111]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 2 Jan 2019 08:25:58 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r1.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 2 Jan 2019 08:25:51 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gegWq-0000bW-Tc; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:25:49 +0000 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:25:48 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Greg V Cc: Tomasz CEDRO , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL Message-Id: <20190102132548.ec76b2b64d64cbf16c8006e1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <1546428264.1787.1@smtp.migadu.com> References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> <1546428264.1787.1@smtp.migadu.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C77DC8C28B X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=uxBirzKj; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.92 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.70)[-0.704,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.22)[ip: (-0.55), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.27), asn: 7381(-0.21), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:03 -0000 On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:24:24 +0300 Greg V wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:01 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:35:58 +0100 > > Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > > >> Hello world in 2019 :-) > >> > >> I have recently upgraded 11.2 to 12.0. I made AMDGPU work as my > >> desktop Xorg driver. However I still did not make it work with > > > > Do you not get this in Xorg.0.log ? > > > > [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of > > /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so > > failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") > > > > If not what did you do to prevent it ? > > This should never happen. I'm curious as to how you even got this Hmm there is no such file - there are a bunch of files in lib.dri but not that one. > message :) Oh interesting. All I've done is install the drm-kmod port, put kld_list="amdgpu" in /etc/rc.conf and start Xorg up, there's nothing driver related in xorg.conf just some screen definition and layout stuff. > Do you have permissions to /dev/drm/* and /dev/dri/*? (video group) Yes I'm in the video group. > Do you have the latest libdrm and mesa installed? I've up to date packages installed - do some need to be ports ? > Try running with MESA_DEBUG=1 LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose to see more debug > info, > but you're probably already getting 'MESA-LOADER: failed to retrieve > device information', right? No, everything is working fine except that it reverts to software rendering after modeset hsd set up DRI and VDPAU viz: [ 45.928] (==) modeset(0): DPMS enabled [ 45.928] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] Setup complete [ 45.929] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: amdgpu [ 45.929] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: amdgpu [ 45.929] (--) RandR disabled ... [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 13:54:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A948141FBED for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D3A88D154 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:54:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 9F9A5B2E-E8FE-4D80-8ECB-A98A70ABF45E.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:54:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:54:17 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Tomasz CEDRO , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Message-Id: <1546437257.1787.3@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <20190102132548.ec76b2b64d64cbf16c8006e1@sohara.org> References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> <1546428264.1787.1@smtp.migadu.com> <20190102132548.ec76b2b64d64cbf16c8006e1@sohara.org> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=gIc9KMxOMoqVJiAW+xPZq6+dkilouoq5CdWkemc9tyc=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=PHkPmGQMtFLQ6ezPB7mRXnPi2gYzJP0O0162V/PyqmAFarH3XTd4TEiUKpSEGkt2iOj7e5Gr5SmEIEiqiwOtKsDHYp+Bo49VYIO+1Cv3FRuI04KzX8asiL1oIto30GRWuGRmH+FtwgQIGuEgX6njnz+4NbrKacJufB5sdHl43MY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8D3A88D154 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=PHkPmGQM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: aspmx1.migadu.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.68)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-3.98), asn: 16276(0.45), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:54:23 -0000 On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:25 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:24:24 +0300 > Greg V wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:01 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith >> >> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 01:35:58 +0100 >> > Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >> > >> >> Hello world in 2019 :-) >> >> >> >> I have recently upgraded 11.2 to 12.0. I made AMDGPU work as my >> >> desktop Xorg driver. However I still did not make it work with >> > >> > Do you not get this in Xorg.0.log ? >> > >> > [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of >> > /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so >> > failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") >> > >> > If not what did you do to prevent it ? >> >> This should never happen. I'm curious as to how you even got this > > Hmm there is no such file - there are a bunch of files in lib.dri > but not that one. It shouldn't exist, that's fine. It's a detection problem. Mesa is supposed to read GPU info and find out that the driver is actually radeonsi_dri.so, not the nonexistent amdgpu_dri.so. You can try setting the environment variable MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=radeonsi as a workaround, but this really shouldn't happen. > Oh interesting. All I've done is install the drm-kmod port, put > kld_list="amdgpu" in /etc/rc.conf and start Xorg up, there's nothing > driver related in xorg.conf just some screen definition and layout > stuff. Have you tried not having an xorg.conf at all? Or install xf86-video-amdgpu and configure it in xorg.conf: Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "amdgpu" Option "AccelMethod" "glamor" Option "DRI" "3" Option "TearFree" "true" EndSection > No, everything is working fine except that it reverts to software > rendering after modeset hsd set up DRI and VDPAU viz: > > [ 45.928] (==) modeset(0): DPMS enabled > [ 45.928] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] Setup complete > [ 45.929] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: amdgpu > [ 45.929] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: amdgpu > [ 45.929] (--) RandR disabled > ... > [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of > /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so > failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") [ 45.939] > (EE) > AIGLX: reverting to software rendering Well that's not fine. Do GL applications use the GPU, at least? Try running: MESA_DEBUG=1 LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxgears From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 14:03:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238D414211AE for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "outbound.ifdnrg.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2F318D754 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x02DhD1r029698 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; 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ASN(0.00)[asn:20860, ipnet:193.200.98.0/23, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(-0.19)[asn: 20860(-0.84), country: GB(-0.10)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ifdnrg.com:s=ifdnrg-default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[ifdnrg.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:03:04 -0000 Is there any obvious problem with running parallel zfs sends onto a target pool, I'm seeing broken pipe messages pretty reproducibly if i have 2 syncs running at the same time and am in a situation where i can't easily guarantee jobs won;t overlap I'm presuming that in principle it's ok to do this, and its some resource issue  ( also, where does the logging go with -v on the receive end, not seeing anythng in /var/log/messages?) thanks Paul -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- Virtual Servers from £50.00pm High specification Dedicated Servers from £150.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 14:05:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB2414212EE; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B95578D8A1; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id AAAD2304C; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:05:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Beich To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Greg V , Tomasz CEDRO , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> <1546428264.1787.1@smtp.migadu.com> <20190102132548.ec76b2b64d64cbf16c8006e1@sohara.org> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:05:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20190102132548.ec76b2b64d64cbf16c8006e1@sohara.org> (Steve O'Hara-Smith's message of "Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:25:48 +0000") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B95578D8A1 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.85 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.869,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.990,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:05:26 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: > [ 45.928] (==) modeset(0): DPMS enabled > [ 45.928] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] Setup complete > [ 45.929] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: amdgpu > [ 45.929] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: amdgpu > [ 45.929] (--) RandR disabled > ... > [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so > failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") [ 45.939] (EE) > AIGLX: reverting to software rendering Can you show "pciconf -l" output or full Xorg.log? modesetting(4x) from xorg-server-1.18.4 probably doesn't have PCI ID for your card, so it falls back to kernel driver name. xf86-video-* drivers are unaffected as they are updated independently from xorg-server. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 14:14:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B82814219C8 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E70B38E04C for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1546438479; x=1549030479; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=dFJfkPkcIqOWwjgye9jqqc5uS77tW48iGwThetbcIrY=; b=ID3lf6vNUjYXUxqD9z6Xkpuv5Fy9yvZwjoM9KeKbUxNMFf7WWrErcKxcydjNMs4t08XLeIEoLdt3H1/uY6V8I6xh13uoA2dVR/FwqGPBrwfdNTqSlrjzrMEgJVHm4fpAbWYOvGlaVA31ZNDa52VNWiJjIFjSmSVtPOXkE9St9bI= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTEwMDAwMDM5NzViNTUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.5.202.82]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 2 Jan 2019 09:14:31 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 2 Jan 2019 09:14:29 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gehHv-0000ql-Mz; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:14:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:14:27 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Greg V Cc: Tomasz CEDRO , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL Message-Id: <20190102141427.c95870a079cb496c9ff9e088@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <1546437257.1787.3@smtp.migadu.com> References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> <1546428264.1787.1@smtp.migadu.com> <20190102132548.ec76b2b64d64cbf16c8006e1@sohara.org> <1546437257.1787.3@smtp.migadu.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E70B38E04C X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=ID3lf6vN; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.06 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.84)[-0.835,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.56), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.27), asn: 7381(-0.22), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:14:39 -0000 On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:54:17 +0300 Greg V wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:25 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote: > > Oh interesting. All I've done is install the drm-kmod port, put > > kld_list="amdgpu" in /etc/rc.conf and start Xorg up, there's nothing > > driver related in xorg.conf just some screen definition and layout > > stuff. > > Have you tried not having an xorg.conf at all? I'm pretty sure I had done so earlier on resulting in problems getting the screens to do what I wanted, but trying again all seems to be well and I'm getting this now: [1269903.822] (==) modeset(0): DPMS enabled [1269903.822] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] Setup complete [1269903.822] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: radeonsi [1269903.822] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: radeonsi [1269903.822] (--) RandR disabled [1269903.834] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer [1269903.834] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context Which is much better. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 14:15:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2ED31421A18 for ; 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I did not see any thing I would suspect to be the cause of the slowdown. All powerd does on my machine is adjusting the CPU frequency. Mu Ryzen has only three possible frequencies. What I do not understand, why is powerd requesting a frequency change to a value not possible? Powerd itself hardly consumes CPU. Has a system call a problem or gets the CPU so much irritated when an illegal frequency is requested? Erich On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 09:18:20 +0100 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 12/21/18 5:40 PM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > > Having powerd running or not does not make any difference. > > After further investigation/testing, powerd is the culprit. > Earlier I tried stopping it and I confirm it makes no difference; now > I realize just starting it bring the CPU down by a factor of 50% > until rebooting. > > After disabling it in /etc/rc.conf my machine is behaving properly. > > I'll try enabling it again when I'll upgrade to 12 (although that > might happen not so soon). > > bye & Thanks > av. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 15:20:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7137A14240A2 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantin@schukraft.org) Received: from server949-han.de-nserver.de (server949-han.de-nserver.de [77.75.250.185]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 003DF90B14 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantin@schukraft.org) Received: (qmail 7386 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2019 16:19:26 +0100 X-Fcrdns: Yes Received: from schukraft.it (HELO midgard.schukraft.it) (80.147.5.44) (smtp-auth username konstantin@schukraft.org, mechanism plain) by server949-han.de-nserver.de (qpsmtpd/0.92) with (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPSA; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:19:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:19:25 +0100 From: Konstantin Schukraft To: Erich Dollansky Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: now on Ryzen performance Message-ID: <20190102151925.vhxaeoczrv2xn2xc@midgard.schukraft.it> References: <42a7a149-fa6b-390f-eb13-e10b437baaf7@netfence.it> <20181204122348.131f9471.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <3cef02cc-fc6a-4570-c374-6f8c8ee3d192@netfence.it> <20181204192129.622c8779.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <2c474b0c-46c3-72dd-ca1f-02edbec41673@netfence.it> <2b6e1a69-28fa-dd6a-f691-a3347aac8ae3@netfence.it> <20190102193150.720b5486.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qthzf5w62baejecy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190102193150.720b5486.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-User-Auth: Auth by konstantin@schukraft.org through 80.147.5.44 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 003DF90B14 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.77 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.43)[0.428,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[schukraft.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.schukraft.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[185.250.75.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34432, ipnet:77.75.250.0/23, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:20:15 -0000 --qthzf5w62baejecy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Hi, >disabling powerd on FreeBSD 12.0 cuts 2h away from a build world. The >downside is that the CPU runs some 15K warmer. > >I know of the limitations powerd has, but these are real huge >limitations compared to what powerd saves. have you looked at powerd++ (sysutils/powerdxx) as a powerd replacement? I find it working quit well on my older AMD FX system, but have no real experience yet with Ryzen/Epyc. Konstantin --qthzf5w62baejecy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYIAB0WIQT5hlD1gMfKZVmJgKBt4hVX4L8dwAUCXCzWeQAKCRBt4hVX4L8d wLNmAQD9aYkoA4AmP6/1fgdmcLJiuY1ACPzvuXIoP+/SO2izFAEAphLczvebKYru cTwOwro94HQKhUxGNR5BZ7Xs0YKONwQ= =hEQk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qthzf5w62baejecy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 19:36:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D498F142DE63 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "outbound.ifdnrg.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CAA36CF08 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x02JVZKM062819 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:31:36 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.0.10] Subject: Re: parallel zfs sends To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6924d723-773b-ecf7-e392-8a2126937a69@ifdnrg.com> <20190102173553.GA9819@neutralgood.org> From: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:36:01 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190102173553.GA9819@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2CAA36CF08 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.42 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.200.98.0/23]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: as1.ifdnrg.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ifdnrg.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ifdnrg.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.14)[-0.144,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[38.98.200.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20860, ipnet:193.200.98.0/23, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(-0.17)[asn: 20860(-0.74), country: GB(-0.10)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ifdnrg.com:s=ifdnrg-default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[ifdnrg.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:36:07 -0000 On 02/01/2019 17:35, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 01:47:37PM +0000, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Is there any obvious problem with running parallel zfs sends onto a >> target pool, > Oh, I don't know, but it sounds risky. Especially if you have overlap > in the datasets that are being updated. I really wouldn't try to update > the same datasets from multiple zfs send commands in parallel. If they're > not overlapping datasets then, um, hmmmm. I don't know. these aren't targetting the same zfs filesystems, i see the error when running parallel jobs to seperate zfs file systems, on the same pool ( which i'd have thought was fine) > -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- Virtual Servers from £50.00pm High specification Dedicated Servers from £150.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 19:42:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778E6142E1D1 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "outbound.ifdnrg.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6B6E6D34C for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x02JcApN065623 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:38:11 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.0.10] Subject: Re: parallel zfs sends To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6924d723-773b-ecf7-e392-8a2126937a69@ifdnrg.com> <20190102173553.GA9819@neutralgood.org> From: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: <4ca737e1-b3d3-2164-ba8b-645c57b7eb19@ifdnrg.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:42:35 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C6B6E6D34C X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.15 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.200.98.0/23]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ifdnrg.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ifdnrg.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: as1.ifdnrg.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[38.98.200.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20860, ipnet:193.200.98.0/23, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(-0.17)[asn: 20860(-0.76), country: GB(-0.10)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ifdnrg.com:s=ifdnrg-default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[ifdnrg.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.13)[0.134,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:42:39 -0000 On 02/01/2019 19:36, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On 02/01/2019 17:35, Kevin P. Neal wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 01:47:37PM +0000, Paul Macdonald via >> freebsd-questions wrote: >>> Is there any obvious problem with running parallel zfs sends onto a >>> target pool, >> Oh, I don't know, but it sounds risky. Especially if you have overlap >> in the datasets that are being updated. I really wouldn't try to update >> the same datasets from multiple zfs send commands in parallel. If >> they're >> not overlapping datasets then, um, hmmmm. I don't know. > > > these aren't targetting the same zfs filesystems, i see the error when > running parallel jobs to seperate zfs file systems, on the same pool ( > which i'd have thought was fine) > >> also, as an aside,  i always find that when doing zfs syncs i have to do force the first incremental with -F as a matter of course, everything is fine after that. /cannot receive incremental stream: destination pool/path has been modified/ is that just me? -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- Virtual Servers from £50.00pm High specification Dedicated Servers from £150.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 21:06:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69191430986 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F0D706F7 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61520BDBFF for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x02L1DCE013900 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:01:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x02L1DGe013895 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:01:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:01:13 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iwm not supported in 11.2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:01:14 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 51F0D706F7 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.71 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: fledge2.watson.org]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(2.73)[ip: (7.25), ipnet: 204.107.128.0/24(3.62), asn: 11288(2.87), country: US(-0.08)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.994,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[watson.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.996,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[30.128.107.204.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:06:55 -0000 On Sat, 29 Dec 2018, Doug Denault wrote: > The system is a lenovo ideapad 700 with an Intel wireless AC 8260 board. I > bought this system because FreeBSD listed this as supported via the iwmfw > driver. Worked out of the box in 10.4 and 11.1. > > After updating to 11.2 with freebsd-update, the device is not recognized, so > I rolled back to 11.1 > > dmesg: > iwm0: hw rev 0x210, fw ver 16.242414.0, address 58:fb:84:c3:ad:c5 > > pciconf: > iwm0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x42108086 chip=0x31668086 rev=0x99 > hdr=0x00 > > Drivers: > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 39 0xffffffff80200000 1f6e400 kernel > 2 1 0xffffffff82170000 2a9f0 if_iwm.ko > 3 1 0xffffffff8219b000 e16a8 iwm3160fw.ko > 4 1 0xffffffff8227d000 1016a0 iwm7260fw.ko > 5 1 0xffffffff8237f000 121698 iwm7265fw.ko > 6 1 0xffffffff824a1000 23f618 iwm8000Cfw.ko > 7 1 0xffffffff8293d000 3650 ums.ko > 8 1 0xffffffff82941000 2986 uhid.ko > 9 1 0xffffffff82944000 4f08 ng_ubt.ko > 10 5 0xffffffff82949000 c57d netgraph.ko > 11 1 0xffffffff82956000 a6bd ng_hci.ko > 12 3 0xffffffff82961000 107f ng_bluetooth.ko > 13 1 0xffffffff82963000 d5be ng_l2cap.ko > 14 1 0xffffffff82971000 1c393 ng_btsocket.ko > 15 1 0xffffffff8298e000 39cc ng_socket.ko > > No PRs and nothing in UPDATING. Anyone else have this issue? Yes, but nobody on questions. The answer is iwm7265fw_load="YES" --> iwm7265Dfw_load="YES" That's "D" for duh I guess. I will submit doc PR. Man pages for 11.2 and 12.0 are wrong. I hope this helps any who follow. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 21:08:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84231430A12 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D03F7076F for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id enkCgeu5WP088enkGgvQRK; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:08:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:08:04 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: How to build depreated ports Message-ID: <0DCC6656F71191428B864CA3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfClf9wNFVdQH/eIFQd0SHGalGNeYbWg2sdxoGfX8wKZVi8VCTXKooXlcCuomDGdXokIXttFR1HzEuswjzHhpKjt0N1NM9ponn6wDrse5RQ0Gt6AjsG/Q MdpFcZx37i9KSeln+MwvJv2ScLn3P8p3lbO3xDeLi0zjfaTz06HL6QSnuKGhx+E97e5xcWGsRSeT5Q== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7D03F7076F X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.48 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.23)[ip: (-8.77), ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-4.06), asn: 7843(-3.25), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com,dnvrco-cmedge02.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.941,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[231.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:08:17 -0000 I have a server that requires php56. I cannot update to php7, because a critical app is not ready yet. How can I upgrade ports without upgrading all the php ports to 7? I tried DISABLE_SECURITY_CHECK=yes in /etc/make.conf (and several others) but that didn't work. Is there a way to ignore all php ports in portmaster so it will build everything but those? Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 21:13:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19E01430D39 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EBBA70B73 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MD9CZ-1gVh0F2R3B-0099gw; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:13:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:13:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Video resolution in a VM Message-Id: <20190102221306.1bbd6c85.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:SCKuKgZEUXvAkJxtEnj85t5Y//KSRkpSqRwIB2bNdB2Eg/NygV7 eydH5VepcRANbn0VQtuKHgctMuPAMdN6Y6aQngZeCflBYq5mUnFWPb6dQWQZeD32jYHMIKZ dSLsqzVJlpuia05qAPYPj8laOUr+6Q1Yq1SFJdruoT+C8jnA+KJohr2jO3cMeGCQ71suAdj M7AKktHUcvmueGrNwNRfA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:I3welVzQYYM=:+cEuHUPRHGTbrPD99X+TBK I9ChrXGu0PJsJ716NNDjagiBkJl20L54xCScRb7kduzkmLGhK1ffRxJKgwtuoO6bxbuZ/O32P l0VdxG0hYl+fkfLRCgxzshIw2Y2Bx3V4EMVPdSLkcQniRSG816fHcnP3eQQ+79MMDGsaSrO6c bxPxI3nhuF9oiu28gX8GUXB4D2DJoHJklExTKNaWzLfzss2iM4sY874Rj5mXCdwGS18OxhDLK Ie9B5LYqX3jot1af94tSYPHN7y8kkJCQjpJ0swgxVZzSxbwm4oWm3Yke14aPjHqV1ZCBytjCR NlWhtRzztSA34xLNoX8bgP8IH3AtJ7DqSrtIBGt9t44N96CdJgSo5wIN8lZrjggUynBv61Wx7 0w6C02WK3Mphcj+9wi6KcnaKfv8PWJnBymQluzAQR9UspPhGxBG5NhxOTx8HI9NXd7Y5PQe7/ HmCgL8QmtQLizETXMJLewbgJZHjr0088d7pIJ9w2EsOJfTGG1CmNfRiv0nKMEiOPA5cNEfahI hh3U4B6L4C+kAZtoVvxW8Bsw1Wj2jO7ux1fyURbXcHAN1xSx+oUy5RC3vphwU3DKOJjzHPwNK Wy7AVMgaduIuih/Y236NOFRQO/ujLd8emu7HIifRQlly1/Yf7vX4oNKSm8MxGtnEVOmGwIb5+ ZXs2l+57Z1EqvtcAWEHjZw4mir1Leb461dUzioXRzLcS95l6GovThvq8C03pXYMtaT7JdMDb2 Ys5otr/jxzj1jcxSr6OcULFtN90wyICi7nyxeQY+iqgX6HRxI6c/aFvqbew= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8EBBA70B73 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.21 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.83)[0.826,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.03)[0.028,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.83)[0.834,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[13.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.31), asn: 8560(0.97), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:13:16 -0000 On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 17:05:09 -0800, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: > I'm not able to get display resolution greater than 1280x720 - I'd > really like to get it to 1920x1080, to match the laptop capabilities. > > [...] > > The laptop shows two video displays in hdwwiz.cpl in Windows: > Intel HD Graphics 630 > NVIDIA GeForce 940MX > but it looks as if the NVIDIA isn't active. Don't know why that is. > > When I run xvinfo, it shows no display available. > > For "display", pciconf says: > vgapci0@pci0:0:15:0: class=0x030000 card=0x040515ad > chip=0x040515ad rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'VMware' > device = 'SVGA II Adapter' > class = display > subclass = VGA > > The .vmx files shows the following for the display: > vmotion.checkpointSVGAPrimarySize = "8323072" > svga.maxHeight = "1080" > svga.maxWidth = "1920" > svga.autodetect = "FALSE" > svga.vramSize = "8323072" > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. There are several things you can try: First of all, it seems that VMware does not properly "represent" the existing hardware to your FreeBSD VM instance, so you only seem to get the generic "SVGA card". Also, have you thought about increasing the VRAM size? You can never have enough of VRAM. :-) Try using xrandr to set the screen size from insie the VM. A command line xrandr --size 1920x1080 should work. You can also try to use a specific X configuration fragment, for example /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/screen-resolution.conf with a content like this: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" SubSection "Display" Modes "1920x1080" EndSubSection EndSection You could then experiment with the setting DisplaySize (in mm) and the Option "DPI" (for example with "110 x 110"), depending on the actual properties of the hardware (!) you are using. A laptop display only has one sceen size and one resolution. Normally, X will calculate the correct information itself, which is usually obtained from the display, but this might not work as intended because of the "VM mangling"... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 21:26:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAB1143174C for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D71571293 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id eo1bg5T91WnTieo1egJRAx; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:26:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:26:03 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to build depreated ports Message-ID: <2D64FD6FE8B0BE361436CE70@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <0DCC6656F71191428B864CA3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <0DCC6656F71191428B864CA3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAj7OMUrR+uzJZgm6OW7FwshCt0uY+ufUMdWTfnyCQzyeZIcTnA/hua4aMLm+q+nBLTDWH7x0qq7v0TF4H2R9+L/fOjCT4oB6tT3js0vQILeSF64TVZE NrCo1iLzt685GzuVQXKT1NDeANK2cy8H+YQWHyn1EoAlZrffJTOtO8XM95i2bTaIriJOuKI/cLXfDQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1D71571293 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.49)[ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-4.09), asn: 7843(-3.27), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.945,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[226.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:26:15 -0000 --On January 2, 2019 at 3:08:04 PM -0600 Paul Schmehl wrote: > I have a server that requires php56. I cannot update to php7, because a > critical app is not ready yet. > > How can I upgrade ports without upgrading all the php ports to 7? > > I tried DISABLE_SECURITY_CHECK=yes in /etc/make.conf (and several others) > but that didn't work. > > Is there a way to ignore all php ports in portmaster so it will build > everything but those? Following up on my own post, I ran pkg info php56* and it returned no match. But, I run this and they're there. # pkg info | grep php mod_php56-5.6.38 PHP Scripting Language php56-5.6.39 PHP Scripting Language php56-bz2-5.6.39 The bz2 shared extension for php php56-ctype-5.6.39 The ctype shared extension for php php56-curl-5.6.39 The curl shared extension for php php56-dom-5.6.39 The dom shared extension for php php56-extensions-1.0 "meta-port" to install PHP extensions php56-fileinfo-5.6.39 The fileinfo shared extension for php php56-filter-5.6.39 The filter shared extension for php php56-ftp-5.6.39 The ftp shared extension for php php56-gd-5.6.39 The gd shared extension for php php56-gettext-5.6.39 The gettext shared extension for php php56-hash-5.6.39 The hash shared extension for php php56-iconv-5.6.39 The iconv shared extension for php php56-json-5.6.39 The json shared extension for php php56-mbstring-5.6.39 The mbstring shared extension for php php56-mcrypt-5.6.39 The mcrypt shared extension for php php56-mysql-5.6.39 The mysql shared extension for php php56-mysqli-5.6.39 The mysqli shared extension for php php56-opcache-5.6.39 The opcache shared extension for php php56-openssl-5.6.39 The openssl shared extension for php php56-pdo-5.6.39 The pdo shared extension for php php56-pdo_mysql-5.6.39 The pdo_mysql shared extension for php php56-pdo_odbc-5.6.39 The pdo_odbc shared extension for php php56-pdo_sqlite-5.6.39 The pdo_sqlite shared extension for php php56-phar-5.6.39 The phar shared extension for php php56-posix-5.6.39 The posix shared extension for php php56-readline-5.6.39 The readline shared extension for php php56-session-5.6.39 The session shared extension for php php56-simplexml-5.6.39 The simplexml shared extension for php php56-sockets-5.6.39 The sockets shared extension for php php56-sqlite3-5.6.39 The sqlite3 shared extension for php php56-tidy-5.6.39 The tidy shared extension for php php56-tokenizer-5.6.39 The tokenizer shared extension for php php56-xml-5.6.39 The xml shared extension for php php56-xmlreader-5.6.39 The xmlreader shared extension for php php56-xmlrpc-5.6.39 The xmlrpc shared extension for php php56-xmlwriter-5.6.39 The xmlwriter shared extension for php php56-zip-5.6.39 The zip shared extension for php php56-zlib-5.6.39 The zlib shared extension for php When I run portmaster -adx php56*, it returns no match. It appears that pkg isn't aware of the installed ports, yet it is. I am confused. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 21:26:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12CC1431779 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68160712AA for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MEmAX-1gYSUZ0CT5-00GIMc for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:26:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:26:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 Message-Id: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:WxoLNf+m3nfL66q2d232GAmq4gyMesA1cJz8B8KHb9PIhVKlMPP c7uDfPNEfsHeib919L4mV5fITva3zo+Hjsq0AlJ9mGk07TKso2Nr7iS+Q8M0WMLu/fKj0Re jd+cmrynSC6Bt8/wGGySRloG4yBs4yuqzwRK1xJEZeKsbVLchD6I3GxLsgHBjcBynjugVkh Yxn3+1gXBpPi8yoHErAVw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:k1HbrxjEvlk=:DCMpcw5btlDUVVIWEOzLCb o9o3CoSuLk++xeexDWclAZRmPwsn4TGVPGHERMmYW8IhA+xCpdkpIGfWsm1l18EsboLfQegSu yOYJVv5p+CLcU3uZPzOmT42vlWi6gIMHm9tiQcydkWmhVIIzi6yRvISmnmzM9mvq5m9xqdTa9 kAhoUfuY/GKsv+KJ94/x6jh+mkTfOejfxesNOc3/G+H79FFbtZKTlpj+V0vp9LJxGtOLpqLfY HhFEIOd6GHAlPOAXbXFAm0Bqn4URVRXdYwwMm+7o3yNgo+V6ql7GMwl+P50lAiKlLP3ou5cfQ 7sSSjh3pQbQRwS4jJGr4WWVbE86SOxbNZsSAtIAitFAzp8UgsJuSJYLnqOwW008gqVlD4oxMp sogYjMAbPT24ZxtgHFfOzItvWB9cwRYd0HAxPqcMr2hrtS1VaIWQkfUi6vfeRTFtI27e+ust+ iQ1tCrQvSKp8PHyMr4TQzI4B4n+FwyI8iMJN3ksMnJ59hQoOit95CVFIMkas0QQBb1MnMLEB+ Joea/4D9mIZ4d6AM/5PjmmbH5LZC+DCIX/iQSMdixP5omhDj3pJjB2jS7pYnrhIVEEtzyt01A q1989qHKsfXXXkmqnN981oNugt31VY2fhurU01PNCbCVsHMxcEeRwPjrs2UJ3e1IQSqDBf4FN pqNQ4pyNJVndta/K1TmJoa9CymvGS8Pao9xYHZW+0ii+GabdocL3M4Q9/Qpg/EKDkc0Qbu0iu oPjdW0/2m6Ft9lRJMQbUtOQ5xJwHBohjJr2wQdGiXvvD6utEgrWVAH7vKYE= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 68160712AA X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.04 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.78)[0.778,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.67)[0.673,0]; IP_SCORE(0.23)[ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.22), asn: 8560(0.96), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.964,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[75.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[75.192.72.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:26:29 -0000 On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:06:33 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > Three SATA drives, 1,863 GB each, configured into a RAID 5 with 3,762 > total GB > > This is a software RAID, Intel Rapid Storage Technology 16.5.1.1030 > > I have included the full information at the end. The system is > presently running Win 10 PRO just fine. I want to convert it to a > FreeBSD 12 system. If I install FreeBSD 12 amd64 utilizing ZFS, will it > recognize the drives and set them up correctly or will I have to do > something manually? I want to keep the RAID setup and not use the > drives individually. Is there a reason you don't want to use ZFS's native RAID features? It's commonly suggested to not rely on software RAID and instead let ZFS manage the drives. You can construct the same RAID setups with ZFS as you can with the controller, and as you're going to scratch the existing content anyway, there is no need to preserve anything of the previous layout. More information here: http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#RAID-Z -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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If yes then things get considerably more complicated and will depend on your exact situation (and also likely beyond me). It could be simpler to host a dedicated server/vm for just your critical app. I haven't been tracking php dev closely, but IIUC there have been advances in an app being able to have its own version of php and libraries (maybe). ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Schmehl" > To: "freebsd-questions" > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 2:08:04 PM > Subject: How to build depreated ports > I have a server that requires php56. I cannot update to php7, because a > critical app is not ready yet. > > How can I upgrade ports without upgrading all the php ports to 7? > > I tried DISABLE_SECURITY_CHECK=yes in /etc/make.conf (and several others) > but that didn't work. > > Is there a way to ignore all php ports in portmaster so it will build > everything but those? > > Paul Schmehl, Retired > My opinions are my own. > ******************************************* > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very > intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 21:31:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4B61431B15 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 271D6717E6 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id eo6sg1AqGsismeo6ugDZ9N; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:31:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:31:29 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Dale Scott cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to build depreated ports Message-ID: <6B59D40D6781DC159D3CEB05@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <1481457213.213526948.1546464456989.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <0DCC6656F71191428B864CA3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <1481457213.213526948.1546464456989.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfNCFiCl9TFKt5deq8N4Gj0Ar3pjw2f+rX5h1xPbONnW/REqEyXJK9FLafGcxchKNZxXWR4tMvN+v+mPbmx4XogFocR2BlPL4UMzp7xC3LF+VEi6mNNMo NCnj3pV+ezmYl2xHDEkAEeVUqn5jOj5EwSmowPUtMViUmKDgBue9tyNXW/GeZidzEJ73YnN2VAZV+YFW6EvZ9GO4ojSshmhdupZJ+SzX+eVDbZfcLXCsqaP3 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 271D6717E6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[225.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.930,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.50)[ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-4.12), asn: 7843(-3.29), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:31:42 -0000 --On January 2, 2019 at 2:27:36 PM -0700 Dale Scott wrote: > Do you have ANY other PHP apps? If yes then things get considerably more > complicated and will depend on your exact situation (and also likely > beyond me). It could be simpler to host a dedicated server/vm for just > your critical app. > > I haven't been tracking php dev closely, but IIUC there have been > advances in an app being able to have its own version of php and > libraries (maybe). Yes, there are other PHP apps, but all of them will run under 7.1. The problem is, I don't have another server to put this one app on. I have to wait for the developers to release the new version that php7 compatible. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." 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This is a small hobby website with very little money. So there's no funds for development servers or test setups. Anything that I do that disrupts operations is problematic. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." 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The > >downside is that the CPU runs some 15K warmer. > > > >I know of the limitations powerd has, but these are real huge > >limitations compared to what powerd saves. > have you looked at powerd++ (sysutils/powerdxx) as a powerd I installed it but did not test it yet. > replacement? I find it working quit well on my older AMD FX system, > but have no real experience yet with Ryzen/Epyc. Man told me that it works like powerd but with a different statistics. I hope that I will see today the difference. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 00:36:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE0314366B1 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 00:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE71C80708 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 00:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADBF3C291B for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 00:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x030amRV041134 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:36:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x030ambu041131 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:36:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:36:48 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: workstation upgrade Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:36:48 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CE71C80708 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.65 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(2.70)[ip: (7.16), ipnet: 204.107.128.0/24(3.58), asn: 11288(2.83), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[watson.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.96)[0.964,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: fledge2.watson.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[30.128.107.204.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 00:36:53 -0000 I finally got my laptop upgraded to 11.2. I almost always just start over. This time I thought I would try to upgrade the system. Basicly I am seeking advice on how/if this might be done. It has been a while so "pkg upgrade" shows the following needs to be done: Number of packages to be removed: 1 Number of packages to be installed: 16 Number of packages to be upgraded: 307 Number of packages to be reinstalled: 28 In the past I've just run pkg. This has not worked out so well, I was thinking maybe do firefox, libreoffice, and then gimp. Then xfce followed by the rest. If anyone has had success with workstation updates, I'm keen to know how you did it. My issue has been mostly xfce does not play well with firefox. Thanks for any thoughts. 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[69.125.218.0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c17sm34374591qtb.14.2019.01.02.17.11.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:11:34 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 From: David Schwartz In-Reply-To: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:11:33 -0500 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <53FB6D40-11AB-460A-998B-01EF0E655687@gmail.com> References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4AED881E4D X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=S9SWE5jy; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dschwartz783freebsd@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dschwartz783freebsd@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.11 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.61)[ip: (-9.24), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.10), asn: 15169(-1.62), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 01:11:36 -0000 Hi, first post. Howdy y=E2=80=99all. I definitely agree with this. ZFS cannot work properly if it isn=E2=80=99t= aware of the fact that it=E2=80=99s running a RAID. In order to take = advantage of bit-rot protection (unless you want to use copies=3D2), you = need to have ZFS construct the array. > On Jan 2, 2019, at 16:26, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:06:33 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: >> Three SATA drives, 1,863 GB each, configured into a RAID 5 with 3,762 >> total GB >>=20 >> This is a software RAID, Intel Rapid Storage Technology 16.5.1.1030 >>=20 >> I have included the full information at the end. The system is >> presently running Win 10 PRO just fine. I want to convert it to a >> FreeBSD 12 system. If I install FreeBSD 12 amd64 utilizing ZFS, will = it >> recognize the drives and set them up correctly or will I have to do >> something manually? I want to keep the RAID setup and not use the >> drives individually. >=20 > Is there a reason you don't want to use ZFS's native RAID > features? It's commonly suggested to not rely on software > RAID and instead let ZFS manage the drives. You can construct > the same RAID setups with ZFS as you can with the controller, > and as you're going to scratch the existing content anyway, > there is no need to preserve anything of the previous layout. >=20 > More information here: >=20 > http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ >=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#RAID-Z >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 02:42:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C82143AA71 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 02:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa30.google.com (mail-vk1-xa30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 287D784CC8 for ; 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After reading the following, the browser's been well-behaved: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/firefox-is-leaking-memory-on-my-system.67657/ I recently acquired a refurbished laptop and I'm running FreeBSD 12 on it with Xfce as the desktop. (There are some quirks with using Mate, for some reason.) Firefox hasn't malfunctioned on me yet. BMJ On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 12:38 AM doug wrote: > I finally got my laptop upgraded to 11.2. I almost always just start over. > This > time I thought I would try to upgrade the system. Basicly I am seeking > advice on > how/if this might be done. It has been a while so "pkg upgrade" shows the > following needs to be done: > > Number of packages to be removed: 1 > Number of packages to be installed: 16 > Number of packages to be upgraded: 307 > Number of packages to be reinstalled: 28 > > In the past I've just run pkg. This has not worked out so well, I was > thinking > maybe do firefox, libreoffice, and then gimp. Then xfce followed by the > rest. > If anyone has had success with workstation updates, I'm keen to know how > you did > it. > > My issue has been mostly xfce does not play well with firefox. 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The > >downside is that the CPU runs some 15K warmer. > > > >I know of the limitations powerd has, but these are real huge > >limitations compared to what powerd saves. > have you looked at powerd++ (sysutils/powerdxx) as a powerd > replacement? I find it working quit well on my older AMD FX system, > but have no real experience yet with Ryzen/Epyc. the difference can be neglected. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 06:39:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83AB14197C0 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 06:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x235.google.com (mail-oi1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9C778C995 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 06:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x235.google.com with SMTP id c206so26999572oib.0 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:39:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=v3bAuRaEGqqi8pb9L2K/Pdu0bRvPDtKcqHGdkL7fKqE=; b=U3kXtwogozzXay8dDT1FhbZDN6airOGL3S7qGHZ+g/e/FRNVuQvMMir1GyOSEFzPOx fPQAYzdhCpC7h35WDL9AWm+C6Qt9crmvdLcLnrwQ6/sw8ISEGeYUEldmPwOAdS5yJCUK 4mbv3sFDY8IZWXaftPcJc7SYS86OG5hxRplsAnoJ3LsP+DYZYzO/EByyyHcXr9q6ZIB2 ELf4SEWv8UsmI0QFZeELb+4VCGQGmrOCuQ1PmyFD8DYZq9C5fyPzIBVr1uIVhNaS2b5X Sshz3abJvZD5lPPO/thzNAm0F2lqJQc9+woB+SdIo5bp19/r/oQrnCqFoCCfl4+MkzFo T//A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=v3bAuRaEGqqi8pb9L2K/Pdu0bRvPDtKcqHGdkL7fKqE=; b=f7l4MQNqY2PEYSS8OgtDInVXVnAzFEiUv1pMhWxmecCV37NP7Qqx6xkwJfM8izGAOG 1fYE1cSADhkCR/d/EtNjicNJPrMSoD3g1EoGEhc5LOVK6wAtrKoEf6bkeoC9v33UwMC1 rEelCYl7XmJiuDZp4ykv0JfqPjzA79bl+qyx7lP2AjUYyrNnWP3wuV2C/Rgzs7BNPO3Y p6aafIT8rA0/jWi9vrAxIUwaPZn2THO6Wtrs6toAwvc1QQmdl2jn+YZsiCkqd68bbhmG 5re8AL5moTFk+JXAxNNTP2eoAgzFDPAHmmRNPxPHQRmDp5rt7dO5Z8zj0q8g8rg7IWPv 2iBA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYc46HbXbphCUIfnUnL+wH+Jb/yLd9TKcDPIG+GgNw4vkl47U0q UF/gqjr5v8UKyXYW0YI6QuRv/aCv/37EfCdnSSU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/Vk2u1d1enYVWJJe0pxH+h+jupUI5TIk+Ovl0DBHJF6YoKy8p4WX7Bxut3lsMI8+VgRkhAykC3AoVAaMtWpXek= X-Received: by 2002:aca:eccb:: with SMTP id k194mr29482877oih.104.1546497545273; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:39:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190102221306.1bbd6c85.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190102221306.1bbd6c85.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:38:33 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Video resolution in a VM To: Polytropon Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E9C778C995 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=U3kXtwog; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kurtbuff@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kurtbuff@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.53 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.914,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.61)[ip: (-9.23), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.11), asn: 15169(-1.63), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 06:39:09 -0000 On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 17:05:09 -0800, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: > > I'm not able to get display resolution greater than 1280x720 - I'd > > really like to get it to 1920x1080, to match the laptop capabilities. > > > > [...] > > > > The laptop shows two video displays in hdwwiz.cpl in Windows: > > Intel HD Graphics 630 > > NVIDIA GeForce 940MX > > but it looks as if the NVIDIA isn't active. Don't know why that is. > > > > When I run xvinfo, it shows no display available. > > > > For "display", pciconf says: > > vgapci0@pci0:0:15:0: class=0x030000 card=0x040515ad > > chip=0x040515ad rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'VMware' > > device = 'SVGA II Adapter' > > class = display > > subclass = VGA > > > > The .vmx files shows the following for the display: > > vmotion.checkpointSVGAPrimarySize = "8323072" > > svga.maxHeight = "1080" > > svga.maxWidth = "1920" > > svga.autodetect = "FALSE" > > svga.vramSize = "8323072" > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > There are several things you can try: > > First of all, it seems that VMware does not properly "represent" > the existing hardware to your FreeBSD VM instance, so you only > seem to get the generic "SVGA card". Also, have you thought > about increasing the VRAM size? You can never have enough > of VRAM. :-) I'll have to look that up. > Try using xrandr to set the screen size from insie the VM. > A command line > > xrandr --size 1920x1080 > > should work. Dang. Nope. I get the message: "Can't open display" > You can also try to use a specific X configuration fragment, > for example /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/screen-resolution.conf > with a content like this: > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > SubSection "Display" > Modes "1920x1080" > EndSubSection > EndSection No success with that just now. Also tried this, without success: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Visual "TrueColor" Modes "1920x1080" "1280x800" EndSubSection EndSection > You could then experiment with the setting DisplaySize (in mm) > and the Option "DPI" (for example with "110 x 110"), depending > on the actual properties of the hardware (!) you are using. > A laptop display only has one sceen size and one resolution. > Normally, X will calculate the correct information itself, > which is usually obtained from the display, but this might not > work as intended because of the "VM mangling"... ;-) Hm. I will have to look that up as well. Thanks for the help so far. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 06:55:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA791419FCB for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 06:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27D608D127 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 06:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Movrq-1h6p5I4BiA-00qTCm; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:55:07 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 07:55:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Video resolution in a VM Message-Id: <20190103075506.1b053767.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190102221306.1bbd6c85.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5mxwQdzg++6nQiEd+EqmFDNo0C1Zkhju1nazpfuo5QYGcFYmeAB 4hUG9NeDHURLVearuFydathArNIx0/9Wb0lIzSSCUlh9nioBuKm20r7J+X8maJHsV5oJf01 zTC4UtqqppYO34d0OmnzPSjx/xfr9QSD+kRo7jaYyd/VXrU2FDGxVSvnmxp9oh9lg/hjufI 9qs4wdgKTuBAjJUpegP4Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Gp1Z5bUnEwQ=:Oh6xGy+YkDTYMyVNYi/pSg TiCblYOKy45r50rJxgp+j1fKu1mb0g151EgNAKTNTOvr2aP8hWoC4db93NcDq0Bn2KDlE/vFJ x6RhslotuX6ZOkXzeCUDNyusuo/d5bCISRkr1VA6aH9yVGmL2a2Y2lKk7DDdGD4lRdvIx0aTm 0x5kcgdEApJUsv2+OTw2Pb0Kk8eXrkk0TLuV4RfuZkZ5QCuMaPwR8xQqL1v9I8HNJrbjyRUnp XcTLjAjCOgZPT0svRRUqPNCH8NHxVHPi0SILbuno3aodvRNfiLlGBH4qHzAVTphsgzPHLAgD2 jnkzIq7g+jSvvqefNBWLYoiRfk7cNYlYwut8Z8trm5C6QB6ucJs7rzqAGmeD2cq7h59IR68eB wjRLcjiEw4gvySXShOE2sr8WJPDJU70xyXJEacAQCKAbEjrWVx8MTcEz8AgSPj740Tx9TpYAx IxIm0c+rqMrdI+0veyp8OTzrZFCSy6s4WAiRaQASH0ptvrTxfFFqNa8lk7Z5XMDgpRhjrRd8z ktvaSASHW6NY5uxCrAgf0xbaFm9xx5yGK2pDpvRZjHtJQ5x8CS1253dNXyIQ7k5gADcxw68SY Uk6YkNy98SvQmxV0Z7iy5VLlGH+UTF8qE32TWt1+SdVCprb4KgSQDlgGD65Wg1/yy0337DGSI RWofSei8G1U8EC221hTRIljl9Ro1Hrjg2Fnckg9CSwFYZoMENUCnYp0aFLbcix6v4DK4vNyjN rV6mBap0MpwNXFoAKQ7zfWThCYwEP1d41Q6QbkeO2rasHIyUlBnY0QCnj/4= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 27D608D127 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.29 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.71)[0.714,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.81)[0.808,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.982,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.40)[ip: (1.35), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.31), asn: 8560(0.96), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 06:55:12 -0000 On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:38:33 -0800, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Polytropon wrote: > > [...] > > Try using xrandr to set the screen size from insie the VM. > > A command line > > > > xrandr --size 1920x1080 > > > > should work. > > Dang. Nope. > > I get the message: > "Can't open display" Are you issuing this command from within an X terminal in the X session? What does echo $DISPLAY print? You can also run the command "xrandr" without arguments to get further information. > > You can also try to use a specific X configuration fragment, > > for example /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/screen-resolution.conf > > with a content like this: > > > > Section "Screen" > > Identifier "Screen0" > > Device "Card0" > > SubSection "Display" > > Modes "1920x1080" > > EndSubSection > > EndSection > > No success with that just now. Also tried this, without success: > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Visual "TrueColor" > Modes "1920x1080" "1280x800" > EndSubSection > EndSection There is also a setting that can be used with the section for the monitor (in your case, the LC display): Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Something" ModelName "Something else" Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" Option "Position" "0 0" EndSection This fragment could be placed in another file residing in /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to be read by X at startup. Always check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for two things: 1. What graphics driver is being used? 2. Which errors "(EE)" are reported? Maybe you can find some helpful clues there... > > You could then experiment with the setting DisplaySize (in mm) > > and the Option "DPI" (for example with "110 x 110"), depending > > on the actual properties of the hardware (!) you are using. > > A laptop display only has one sceen size and one resolution. > > Normally, X will calculate the correct information itself, > > which is usually obtained from the display, but this might not > > work as intended because of the "VM mangling"... ;-) > > Hm. I will have to look that up as well. > > Thanks for the help so far. Good luck! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 07:11:02 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CAD141AAE3 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 07:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3062C8DA05 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 07:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp121-45-92-208.bras1.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.92.208]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 03 Jan 2019 17:35:45 +1030 Subject: Re: How to build depreated ports To: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions References: <0DCC6656F71191428B864CA3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <2D64FD6FE8B0BE361436CE70@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:35:43 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2D64FD6FE8B0BE361436CE70@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3062C8DA05 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.984,0]; IP_SCORE(0.46)[ipnet: 150.101.0.0/16(1.82), asn: 4739(0.50), country: AU(-0.03)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ShaneWare.Biz]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.989,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.superb.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.988,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[129.137.101.150.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4739, ipnet:150.101.0.0/16, country:AU]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[208.92.45.121.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:11:02 -0000 On 3/1/19 7:56 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On January 2, 2019 at 3:08:04 PM -0600 Paul Schmehl > wrote: > >> I have a server that requires php56. I cannot update to php7, because a >> critical app is not ready yet. >> >> How can I upgrade ports without upgrading all the php ports to 7? In /etc/make.conf add DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=php=5.6 Note that if you are using a public pkg repo, it will have pkgs that were built against php7, so this is for building from ports or your own pkg repo. >> I tried DISABLE_SECURITY_CHECK=yes in /etc/make.conf (and several others) >> but that didn't work. If being DEPRECATED is causing problems, you could remove the line from /usr/ports/lang/php56/Makefile > Following up on my own post, I ran pkg info php56* and it returned no > match. > But, I run this and they're there. > # pkg info | grep php > mod_php56-5.6.38               PHP Scripting Language > php56-5.6.39                   PHP Scripting Language > It appears that pkg isn't aware of the installed ports, yet it is. 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FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[outlook.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[outlook.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:05:37 -0000 On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:26:19 +0100, Polytropon stated: >On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:06:33 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: >> Three SATA drives, 1,863 GB each, configured into a RAID 5 with 3,762 >> total GB >>=20 >> This is a software RAID, Intel Rapid Storage Technology 16.5.1.1030 >>=20 >> I have included the full information at the end. The system is >> presently running Win 10 PRO just fine. I want to convert it to a >> FreeBSD 12 system. If I install FreeBSD 12 amd64 utilizing ZFS, will >> it recognize the drives and set them up correctly or will I have to >> do something manually? I want to keep the RAID setup and not use the >> drives individually. =20 > >Is there a reason you don't want to use ZFS's native RAID >features? It's commonly suggested to not rely on software >RAID and instead let ZFS manage the drives. You can construct >the same RAID setups with ZFS as you can with the controller, >and as you're going to scratch the existing content anyway, >there is no need to preserve anything of the previous layout. > >More information here: > >http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#RAID-Z That doesn't answer my question. I wanted to know if when I first install FreeBSD 12, and choose ZFS as the file system, will it recognize the three drives and set them up by default as a RAIDZ (RAID5 or do I have to do that manually after FreeBSD is installed? Time is money, and I don't have a lot of either to waste trying to get this system up and running. If it is going to be time intensive, then I will just throw the whole idea onto the back burner. Also, as a side note, can the wireless card, a Broadcom BCM4352HMB 802.11ac 2x2 Wi-Fi Adapter be configured to work when FreeBSD is being installed or do I have to wait until the system is up and running to do that? I just ask, because MS Windows, at least Win 10 ,allow the card to be setup and running during installation of the OS. I intend to install FreeBSD with by creating a DVD from the "FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso" download. I therefore need Internet access. I could use an Ethernet cable, but for logistical reasons, I would rather not. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 11:55:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4309142650F for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from smtp1.cretaforce.gr (smtp1.cretaforce.gr [159.69.10.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2DF771940 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1EB920B69 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:55:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (athedsl-126344.home.otenet.gr [85.75.69.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 884B827336 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:55:10 +0200 (EET) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: How to build depreated ports Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:55:09 +0200 References: <0DCC6656F71191428B864CA3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <1481457213.213526948.1546464456989.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <949E7841-3777-4C0F-98AE-3D2B5066C70D@boosten.org> To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <949E7841-3777-4C0F-98AE-3D2B5066C70D@boosten.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A2DF771940 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 159.69.10.232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:159.69.10.232]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.88)[ipnet: 159.69.0.0/16(-1.95), asn: 24940(-2.42), country: DE(-0.01)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.cretaforce.gr]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.723,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[232.10.69.159.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:55:20 -0000 >=20 > On 2 Jan 2019, at 23:08, Paul Schmehl = wrote: >=20 > I have a server that requires php56. I cannot update to php7, because = a critical app is not ready yet. >=20 > How can I upgrade ports without upgrading all the php ports to 7? >=20 > I tried DISABLE_SECURITY_CHECK=3Dyes in /etc/make.conf (and several = others) but that didn't work. >=20 > Is there a way to ignore all php ports in portmaster so it will build = everything but those? In the long run I am sure something will break if you keep upgrading = things that PHP 5.6 depends on. For example today we have: curl-7.62.0 < needs updating (index has 7.63.0) libxml2-2.9.7 < needs updating (index has 2.9.8)=20= But php56-curl depends to curl and multiple php56-* extensions depend to = libxml2. If you upgrade only ports that are not related to PHP 5.6 (also their = dependencies are not related) then it will be fine.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 12:00:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE33F1426A9D for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DBA471A9A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x03Bxt1A011566 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:59:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x03Bxtw8011563 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:59:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:59:55 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 12:00:04 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:05-0000, Carmel NY wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:26:19 +0100, Polytropon stated: > > >On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:06:33 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > >> Three SATA drives, 1,863 GB each, configured into a RAID 5 with 3,762 > >> total GB > >> > >> This is a software RAID, Intel Rapid Storage Technology 16.5.1.1030 > >> > >> I have included the full information at the end. The system is > >> presently running Win 10 PRO just fine. I want to convert it to a > >> FreeBSD 12 system. If I install FreeBSD 12 amd64 utilizing ZFS, will > >> it recognize the drives and set them up correctly or will I have to > >> do something manually? I want to keep the RAID setup and not use the > >> drives individually. > > > >Is there a reason you don't want to use ZFS's native RAID > >features? It's commonly suggested to not rely on software > >RAID and instead let ZFS manage the drives. You can construct > >the same RAID setups with ZFS as you can with the controller, > >and as you're going to scratch the existing content anyway, > >there is no need to preserve anything of the previous layout. > > > >More information here: > > > >http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#RAID-Z > > That doesn't answer my question. I wanted to know if when I first > install FreeBSD 12, and choose ZFS as the file system, will it > recognize the three drives and set them up by default as a RAIDZ > (RAID5 or do I have to do that manually after FreeBSD is installed? If the kernel recognizes your drives, then so will ZFS. This largely depends on how iRST presents the drives to the OS. You may need to destroy the RAID 5 configuration for the drives to be visible individually. I have never tried using iRST and RAID 5 on FreeBSD. > Time is money, and I don't have a lot of either to waste trying to get > this system up and running. If it is going to be time intensive, then I > will just throw the whole idea onto the back burner. If you can afford some downtime, why not try booting your computer using the installation media of choice and see if the boot messsages mention your drives? > Also, as a side note, can the wireless card, a Broadcom BCM4352HMB > 802.11ac 2x2 Wi-Fi Adapter be configured to work when FreeBSD is > being installed or do I have to wait until the system is up and > running to do that? I just ask, because MS Windows, at least Win 10 > ,allow the card to be setup and running during installation of the > OS. I hope others can chime in on this one. Speaking for myself, I have a Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 in my Dell Latitude E5530 running stable/12. The iwm(4) driver provides only 54 Mbit/s, but that's acceptable in my case. > I intend to install FreeBSD with by creating a DVD from the > "FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso" download. I therefore need > Internet access. I could use an Ethernet cable, but for logistical > reasons, I would rather not. I hope you'll choose FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso or FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso. The bootonly image does only boot the system, it does not contain the files needed to perform an installation. The dvd1 image is similar to the disc1 image, but it also contains prebuilt packages if you prefer that. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 12:17:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305A1142779F for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:17:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE1E27260F for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:17:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CC1AE4B5 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/1CC1AE4B5; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <12b2a5fa-4723-3ed2-38bf-d332fb188403@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:17:10 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 12:17:27 -0000 On 03/01/2019 11:05, Carmel NY wrote: > That doesn't answer my question. I wanted to know if when I first > install FreeBSD 12, and choose ZFS as the file system, will it > recognize the three drives and set them up by default as a RAIDZ (RAID5 > or do I have to do that manually after FreeBSD is installed? You will need to go into your server BIOS and delete the existing RAID configuration. The installer will then see all three drives, and you can tell it to create a RAIDZ over all three of them. 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dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:00:36 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:00:47 -0000 On 03/01/2019 16:43, Carmel NY wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:59:55 +0100 (CET), Trond Endrestøl stated: > >> I hope you'll choose FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso or >> FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso. >> >> The bootonly image does only boot the system, it does not contain the >> files needed to perform an installation. >> >> The dvd1 image is similar to the disc1 image, but it also contains >> prebuilt packages if you prefer that. > > I have used the "Boot Only" disk for FreeBSD 11 on another PC. Once > started, it asked several questions and then proceeded to download > the required files via the Internet. I had an Ethernet connection > hooked up to that PC before I started the PC. Have things changes since > then? > Nope. So long as you have Internet access available, then you can use the 'Boot Only' disk image for FreeBSD 12 in exactly the same way. 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NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:20:45 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:00:36 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: >Nope. So long as you have Internet access available, then you can use=20 >the 'Boot Only' disk image for FreeBSD 12 in exactly the same way. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Thank you Matthew, I was worried that things had changed. I like installing from the net. Also, hopefully I am getting the latest versions, although that is probably not true. I know that Microsoft does that, but I am not really sure how FreeBSD handles it. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 17:51:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBE41431C6C for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C4518727A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:51:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08113E50E for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/08113E50E; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <8a1d9b31-8dc7-753c-8d37-1eed2d0bd06a@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:51:47 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6C4518727A X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.980,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20712, ipnet:81.2.64.0/18, country:GB]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:51:51 -0000 On 03/01/2019 17:20, Carmel NY wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:00:36 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: > >> Nope. So long as you have Internet access available, then you can use >> the 'Boot Only' disk image for FreeBSD 12 in exactly the same way. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew > > Thank you Matthew, I was worried that things had changed. I like > installing from the net. Also, hopefully I am getting the latest > versions, although that is probably not true. I know that Microsoft > does that, but I am not really sure how FreeBSD handles it. > If you download the installer image for FreeBSD-12.0 then that's exactly what you'll get as the base system: FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE. You would then need to run freebsd-update(8) or similar after installation to get any subsequently issued security or errata patches. By contrast, with pkgs you would always be getting the latest available version available from the repository, although remember that the default for a -RELEASE system is to use the quarterly package set, so "latest available" could mean (at worst) "3 months behind the current upstream version." Given that at the time of writing this e-mail the 2019Q1 branch is only 3 days old, right now everything is still pretty much up to date compared to the latest packages. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 18:04:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F4414321C9 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1ED887992 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x03I4UB1062017 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:04:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <58a3857b-368e-f12c-fd4d-684ee7239387@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:04:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C1ED887992 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.06 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.90)[0.903,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.94)[0.940,0]; IP_SCORE(0.38)[ip: (0.97), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(0.48), asn: 30722(0.39), country: IT(0.07)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.943,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:04:50 -0000 On 1/3/19 6:20 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > Also, hopefully I am getting the latest > versions, although that is probably not true. Yep, not true. You'll get 12.0-RELEASE, whether you are using the disc1/dvd1/memstick image or you are booting with bootonly image and the download. bye av. 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Carter" Message-ID: <90a9cc24-93e6-7ba4-d11b-db85b8d8b07a@pinyon.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:11:12 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201812261246.wBQCkdrj005579@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B8E5887FD9 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=DKIM header.b=gn4Op2Nw; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=DKIM header.b=MKuauf7G; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=DKIM]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[h2.pinyon.org,h1.pinyon.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.99)[ipnet: 65.100.0.0/14(-4.91), asn: 209(0.02), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.100.0.0/14, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:11:25 -0000 On 12/26/18 5:46 AM, iam@sdf.org wrote: > i am running freebsd-12 under x86-64. > i have been pointed to 'as' and 'ld' for tools. > i have also been pointed to the 'url' for intel > documentation about x86-64 assembly. > i also have a sample "hello world" program in > x86-64 assembly language. > may i know of any tutorials which can teach me > to work with assembly using x86-64? > i saw one book on amazon.com, but that uses the > assembler from microsoft ('masm') which i think > only runs under windows-10+. > any pointers and/or help would be appreciated. > thank you. Basically for x86_64 you can use docs aimed at linux, modulo some minor issues such as renumbering some syscalls. Here are some I've found helpful: This one is free and guaranteed fantastic: https://yurichev.com/writings/UAL-EN.pdf Not bad: http://www.egr.unlv.edu/%7Eed/x86.html Both NASM and YASM have very good docs on the actual syntax. You can find some ok guides about translating between intel and att syntax. This one costs a little bit: https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/mastering-assembly-programming So does this one but it's pretty good: https://rayseyfarth.com/asm/ I generally like supporting authors writing about less common but fundamental programming areas, especially if I can sidestep Amazon. HTH, Russell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 18:51:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CB714332E1 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BCC0896A1 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id f855gtaCEP088f858g4L99; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:51:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 12:50:59 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Christos Chatzaras , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to build depreated ports Message-ID: <795D28893708E0CA8C457A1C@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: References: <0DCC6656F71191428B864CA3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <1481457213.213526948.1546464456989.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <949E7841-3777-4C0F-98AE-3D2B5066C70D@boosten.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDmYfU5sj4rXQ6baPYXNU9Gkg/2KX/rnqH5iCjpUPiJ8vGUnI/wWmc9Fu8XXurDclEHYj669dorjrqDUd1DjQajBPOesSXFPD7wLmtTkDdXGVkJXAvAW 3eLbbl1mgeYlQc0uGDXNcrBh933UaPrPJTfLkPl5t3+lTmj7tNaNsRTHvnBTqg1EofAlarSqdM5N4kq5pwqV8wn+z395r48ELWvUuQ/sjUmQqJvzwDz72aNp X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7BCC0896A1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[225.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.49)[ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-4.10), asn: 7843(-3.28), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:51:06 -0000 --On January 3, 2019 at 1:55:09 PM +0200 Christos Chatzaras wrote: >> >> On 2 Jan 2019, at 23:08, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >> I have a server that requires php56. I cannot update to php7, because a >> critical app is not ready yet. >> >> How can I upgrade ports without upgrading all the php ports to 7? >> >> I tried DISABLE_SECURITY_CHECK=yes in /etc/make.conf (and several >> others) but that didn't work. >> >> Is there a way to ignore all php ports in portmaster so it will build >> everything but those? > > > > In the long run I am sure something will break if you keep upgrading > things that PHP 5.6 depends on. > > For example today we have: > > curl-7.62.0 < needs updating (index has 7.63.0) > libxml2-2.9.7 < needs updating (index has 2.9.8) > > But php56-curl depends to curl and multiple php56-* extensions depend to > libxml2. > > If you upgrade only ports that are not related to PHP 5.6 (also their > dependencies are not related) then it will be fine. Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I need to lock all those dependencies until I can upgrade php. For anyone else dealing with this problem, I made a list of dependencies for all the extensions that I'm using. dependencies of php56 extensions: libxml2 pcre libzip curl libxml libXpm libX11 freetype png jpeg-turbo t1lib gettext-runtime libiconv oniguruma libmcrypt libltdl unixODBC sqlite3 readline tidy-lib Note that there may be others for extensions that I don't use. For now, I will have to run portmaster -adx php56* to allow portmaster to run without errors, and then answer no to updating all the locked ports. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." 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(jjohnstone@tridentusa.com@172.16.0.90) by mail.tridentusa.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Jan 2019 14:20:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <12b2a5fa-4723-3ed2-38bf-d332fb188403@FreeBSD.org> From: John Johnstone Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 14:20:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <12b2a5fa-4723-3ed2-38bf-d332fb188403@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 03CB48B113 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.96 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.964,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:27:32 -0000 On 1/3/2019 7:17 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > You will need to go into your server BIOS and delete the existing RAID > configuration.  The installer will then see all three drives, and you > can tell it to create a RAIDZ over all three of them. It may be stating the obvious, but any existing data on the three drives will be lost in the process. - John J. 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TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.92)[ipnet: 40.64.0.0/10(-2.34), asn: 8075(-2.18), country: US(-0.08)]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[14.13.92.40.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:48:05 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:51:47 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: >On 03/01/2019 17:20, Carmel NY wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:00:36 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: >> =20 >>> Nope. So long as you have Internet access available, then you can >>> use the 'Boot Only' disk image for FreeBSD 12 in exactly the same >>> way. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Matthew =20 >>=20 >> Thank you Matthew, I was worried that things had changed. I like >> installing from the net. Also, hopefully I am getting the latest >> versions, although that is probably not true. I know that Microsoft >> does that, but I am not really sure how FreeBSD handles it. >> =20 > >If you download the installer image for FreeBSD-12.0 then that's >exactly what you'll get as the base system: FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE. You >would then need to run freebsd-update(8) or similar after installation >to get any subsequently issued security or errata patches. > >By contrast, with pkgs you would always be getting the latest >available version available from the repository, although remember >that the default for a -RELEASE system is to use the quarterly package >set, so "latest available" could mean (at worst) "3 months behind the >current upstream version." Given that at the time of writing this >e-mail the 2019Q1 branch is only 3 days old, right now everything is >still pretty much up to date compared to the latest packages. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Matthew, I think you might have some say in how FreeBSD operates. When a user downloads a new version of FreeBSD, lets say version 12.0, they should get that version. Now, if there is a newer version, lets say version 12.1 of 12.2, or whatever, the user should be presented with the option of downloading the latest version. Microsoft does something similar, and I see no reason not to follow that trend. The user should be given the option. If there is a newer version available, why should the end user be handicapped? --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 19:56:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B62314352F9 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from healer@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp10.server.rpi.edu (gateway.canit.rpi.edu [128.113.2.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "canit.localdomain", Issuer "canit.localdomain" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82ED38C36A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from healer@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.231]) by smtp10.server.rpi.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x03JuNTP007420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 14:56:24 -0500 Received: from smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD58458093 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 14:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.113.214.225] (tripoli.vpr.rpi.edu [128.113.214.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: healer) by smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBC9658083 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 14:56:23 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bob Healey Subject: Issues with 12.0 and LSI HBAs Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 14:55:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outgoing, @@RPTN) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 10.10] X-CanIt-Incident-Id: 03XjTUoKP X-CanIt-Geo: ip=128.113.214.225; country=US; region=New York; city=Troy; latitude=42.7495; longitude=-73.5951; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.7495,-73.5951&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.230 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 82ED38C36A X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rpi.edu; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of healer@rpi.edu designates 128.113.2.230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=healer@rpi.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.41 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:128.113.2.225/28]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[230.2.113.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.11.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rpi.edu,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.rpi.edu]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.40)[-0.401,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:91, ipnet:128.113.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:56:32 -0000 I recently upgraded my home file server from 11.2 to 12.0.  After I did so, the BTX loader hangs. Hardware setup: Supermicro A1SAi-2750F mainboard (Atom C2750) with 16GB RAM + 128GB SSD on SATA3 port LSI 9300-8i SAS HBA with 8x2TB HDD The loaded enumerates my 9 devices with BIOS Drive X: diskY and then the spinner makes 1-2 revolutions and hangs.  At this point, the system is completely non-responsive, even to Ctrl+Alt+Del.  It makes the same behavior when booted of the amd64 install media. I was able to work around this by disabling boot support in the LSI firmware, since the 8 drives on that card are part of a data zpool.  The OS is on UFS on the SATA3 SSD.  The machine's had no issues with 11.0, 11.1, or 11.2. Has anyone seen anything similar, or have a better work around? I am running the most recent firmware for both the motherboard and the SAS HBA.  I'd like to figure this out before I start updating the assorted Opteron/Xeon/etc based systems at work with LSI HBAs from 11.1 to 12.0. -- Bob Healey Obsolete Desktop Technician Office of Research and Scientific Computation Research Center healer@rpi.edu (518) 276-6022 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 20:37:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833201436862 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7898F8ED13 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MJEpp-1guDcF3UWh-00Kf8k for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:37:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:37:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 Message-Id: <20190103213716.4e8244f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> <8a1d9b31-8dc7-753c-8d37-1eed2d0bd06a@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QSdc/inLOfU4wHpldHSjEbQde8lqUoldAKfg0LBve7hEaB9/Tiw bFDrQKzTIz2j/eucvlXqfakNXdCriaYW+InQ8W+jOSQQ5yMdzKnhfcZeVM3C0DFLrVVWvrv SBySiqa51/x3tSu6MxkSZCllw+LZk9NWOcrnSCdnOBFwPo2Mx6Q/Xpnc9gT3ZcR3kJi0HV0 K8Nix7V92219mtqbDyapA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:LDpmfy8kL1w=:PqZUaCHfPBD814jh2AI6Os pinWtSuAi2xg9AiqPquQzO9vEe2zXI/S9DSiMUp+OspqgKyIQJAUS0XxZO6KFxzXZyWlroDBs MezTl6wERfV2gqPlQMHeVskPuM+KOLiRZbqGNOnkm4Q11dPON1H9/zEJRM72YPLSYCNy6V2hC g68CNfFpninmID7xbROWpBy1kP8UbRwhtyoIiqxHCWcvho7OBUUhaKnvmbXdg0GHeXLst41SC 3g/L7bdi0zKkQTdLfECD6m97yzCret2zgkXWFWWgvucjyXkKkDhEW0bQmKfOT2PhX1z8gipZp SfdKAi2ThWi+ueJIWnIS36AdkKv67XDUmSzU5WZZK7Cr24oWyo2brGWEwfU0qEmYKLNBMzXr+ MQhfkwec6LXd/Wc33SLPKsynKHraX/faGpM17pyDK5EU04TM3WyGviy7tKDYOZLX+7zXqic01 6UoRQHqb8WWG9tfLXEUys3QMhfPG0yDr080yUxNTTGXd4Hutw/zlfpD6xgpEX3PXUBly8uRJk x+CufX+l6wAXPk5Q3Ap9y/3/nnKkEh/1q9el5vwXwtlxgsDR+8K6DdD5Jj6uY+mD6hgfXASxu CVp7mOzD54cXakKfTzNXYN9uZuMoZ/7qLuo5jGygZ28ExloOGtYh6klGgJ1HxA8Wh/8Cj8gbo ElgHJ4GpUOF9JvvfDTP7620bakqRIieS5QtcRykAXlJiPkSAh+8ac0gkMMDXDaUZd633ZlJAD WFL10ckn2TYGAVitrImDLD5N++HN66y7i0bl4W+ClfcFTGaxaZpRE02qlwU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7898F8ED13 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.59 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.49)[0.489,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.60)[0.598,0]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.34), asn: 8560(1.12), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.956,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:37:26 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:48:01 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > When > a user downloads a new version of FreeBSD, lets say version 12.0, they > should get that version. Now, if there is a newer version, lets say > version 12.1 of 12.2, or whatever, the user should be presented with > the option of downloading the latest version. I'm not sure this matches with how people tend to obtain FreeBSD. Either from the website or from the FTP server, at some point there is a list of version, for example: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/ Name Type Size Time 10.1 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 10.2 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 10.3 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 10.4 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 11.0 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 11.1 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 11.2 Directory 06/27/2018 00:00:00 12.0 Directory 12/11/2018 19:07:00 9.3 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 What kind of logic would imply that someone decides to download, let's say, version 11.0, but after starting the installation surprisingly wants or expects version 11.2? Sure, given Internet connection is available, such an option (!) would not be bad, if someone accidentally downloaded 11.0, but actually intended to install 11.2, to continue with the example presented above. Such options could also include to install patched versions (e. g., -RELEASE-pX) or more recent snapshots (e. g., -STABLE) which wouldn't even be on the -RELEASE list. But is this likely to happen? Those who update their system usually use freebsd-update or build from source, depending on very different needs and requirements, and even if it's the first thing they do after the installation of a -RELEASE version. My very individual summary: People download the version they want, not the version they don't want. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 20:52:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FB51436E0E for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9351A8F4F3 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M72Xn-1gfyGo2aZb-008cg0 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:52:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:52:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 Message-Id: <20190103215253.a4048785.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:arw6gOavJqsyGhO8SG0sX7JEco8BBMUIncQoViqTWwj6I21OkvN 0Fr2KKjodg8vCYqfeVvPo8yyypizBItmHC78oedjHPFWNIEuFab3XzCibTN3i8/j6u4FpQR deXBcc8Nq8s0gZgRBkdgH8Ym+mTuriL3NS0qJ3OV9mrgcMNR8CcP7OFmEKutGKW3s/FJEfa X2LrofEgrZpDpUYFA0LfA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:hMLk6plT4pc=:TxJ9lIW8Vjykk2muIMh3j0 SeFVRaNiP//xAMWRpB5+k7D932zSu65zYM5MSaHtjq7/fAuvdp4/KnLGVU1R+PcUgpqLskJsa VJTi4MXdRmFU3gdx3cnSqJ2XHifJl1/pIITsfk95miwqPx1uR2wyXuF56g8xvgOsCH4RNCXRp zZP5YSTdtgQP0ReZGnr+LuyD6bWFnv+zzM2XwNlBwfTpikSaPQZpIzKA9qpFRYP3j82BV2FRg 4woqBi5jLDpWDr6ER9N+q2s4E7Urr+oJghdKx7CO5vgRB9heDP+FF3QJaleV3niVUMwB/1ad0 /eTfrLKTB9jtUnbP4IOPTCQiyfD/xrJtLLRrdIvN+JN1yKjfCz3baJml/t+1BjB+H0ILp8EFI RRREBtskLuVH/zSGRPDQwx7mlbaZUl3jt6Z2otHSyc+Yn4wLoRvDcoTOLgxX9uAR7E2GJCE3g XQYXQugyOZbVvtz8k4caeOtA6P0LLFkHvt9IhavMEtkRiMIIK7G/cOm/0nM3xunQXyVYlrYbo KjdWjPcLY7O3KHMik8+hbyCjoMLvdoOBo44TNQywVRNFRH1B+YAZqFYMEIwm1idpl+Gt2ts9h I8fUaqHczqhW0UICdMfiSlFlN50ukHOhZXXll/J1BAC+cUqc5onntsQO0HuNnQc1j8b0y91mA T7C85IWKDuRkG+MOfRj+pDbDt+EPrPY1VbeajM96kqKFiVHveb09WCTHxOUAS4qsejMVU95Q0 laZjFoblsNSSwGqPH0bfmNsbYteZ0sWwWViNUbmpe6CpqIvBIna0oVg3ZFg= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9351A8F4F3 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.57 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.85)[0.854,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.94)[0.941,0]; IP_SCORE(0.40)[ip: (1.23), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.34), asn: 8560(1.12), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.990,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:52:58 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:05:31 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:26:19 +0100, Polytropon stated: > > >On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:06:33 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > >> Three SATA drives, 1,863 GB each, configured into a RAID 5 with 3,762 > >> total GB > >> > >> This is a software RAID, Intel Rapid Storage Technology 16.5.1.1030 > >> > >> I have included the full information at the end. The system is > >> presently running Win 10 PRO just fine. I want to convert it to a > >> FreeBSD 12 system. If I install FreeBSD 12 amd64 utilizing ZFS, will > >> it recognize the drives and set them up correctly or will I have to > >> do something manually? I want to keep the RAID setup and not use the > >> drives individually. > > > >Is there a reason you don't want to use ZFS's native RAID > >features? It's commonly suggested to not rely on software > >RAID and instead let ZFS manage the drives. You can construct > >the same RAID setups with ZFS as you can with the controller, > >and as you're going to scratch the existing content anyway, > >there is no need to preserve anything of the previous layout. > > > >More information here: > > > >http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#RAID-Z > > That doesn't answer my question. I wanted to know if when I first > install FreeBSD 12, and choose ZFS as the file system, will it > recognize the three drives and set them up by default as a RAIDZ (RAID5 > or do I have to do that manually after FreeBSD is installed? That depends on the configuration and settings of the RAID controller. If you have already configured the disks into a specific setup, it _could_ represent it to FreeBSD as "one disk". As you said you're going to scratch the content anyway, it's much less trouble to switch off all the "clever" features of the controller and have it represent the three disk as what they are - three individual disks. You then use FreeBSD's zfs command to create whatever RAID setup you want. Experience suggests to leave drive handling to ZFS. It can do this much better than all those "clever" RAID controllers, and as operations are now transparent (!) to ZFS, dealing with possible problems and enabling its built-in integrity features is going to work much better, because there is no interfering intransparent layer involved. Of course, the FreeBSD installer will not _automatically_ see three disks and say: "Oh great! Let's make a ZFS RAID-Z out of this without asking questions!" ;-) However, the installer has preconfigurations availabe for the most common https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html See section 2.6.4. and figure 2.19. + 2.20. for details. There is additional information available in the ZFS chapter: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html However, you should get the expected results using bsdinstall. > Time is money, and I don't have a lot of either to waste trying to get > this system up and running. If it is going to be time intensive, then I > will just throw the whole idea onto the back burner. I won't be time intensive. Just get rid of those "clever" software RAID features - "each disk as-is" - and leave things to ZFS. After making the appropriate selection in the installer, everything will be taken care of automatically. Simple solution wins. :-) > Also, as a side note, can the wireless card, a > Broadcom BCM4352HMB 802.11ac 2x2 Wi-Fi Adapter > be configured to work when FreeBSD is being installed or do I have to > wait until the system is up and running to do that? I just ask, because > MS Windows, at least Win 10 ,allow the card to be setup and running > during installation of the OS. I intend to install FreeBSD with by > creating a DVD from the "FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso" > download. I therefore need Internet access. I could use an Ethernet > cable, but for logistical reasons, I would rather not. Hmmm... when you're going to burn a DVD (4.7 GB capacity), why waste the medium and not go for the DVD ISO? As it is the same media, you can perform the installation without needing any Internet at this point, and depending on what kind of Internet + WLAN you have, it _could_ even be faster, as you pointed out that time is money. However, I have never tried to install FreeBSD over wireless. Wired networking, sure, this works out of the box, but I assume that wireless networking requires you to drop to the shell to set it up in 3 simple steps. But as I said: I've never tried that, and people might even suggest that due to security considerations, wired connections shall be preferred over wireless ones. By the way, in order to reduce waste, why not use a USB stick and boot with that? You could re-use it afterwards, while the 12.0 DVD will soon be an "AOL coaster"... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 22:31:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EB71439B15 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 22:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44E246C77F for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 22:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x03MVd1q014965 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 23:31:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x03MVd4b014962 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 23:31:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 23:31:38 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 22:31:50 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 16:43-0000, Carmel NY wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:59:55 +0100 (CET), Trond Endrestøl stated: > > >I hope you'll choose FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso or > >FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso. > > > >The bootonly image does only boot the system, it does not contain the > >files needed to perform an installation. > > > >The dvd1 image is similar to the disc1 image, but it also contains > >prebuilt packages if you prefer that. > > I have used the "Boot Only" disk for FreeBSD 11 on another PC. Once > started, it asked several questions and then proceeded to download > the required files via the Internet. I had an Ethernet connection > hooked up to that PC before I started the PC. Have things changes since > then? No, they haven't. I was unsure if you had another way of accessing the distribution files given the minimalism of bootonly. Happy hacking. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 22:59:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFCF143A6EE; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 22:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92e.google.com (mail-ua1-x92e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CACF46DA3A; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 22:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92e.google.com with SMTP id d19so11458703uaq.11; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:58:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=h4y33Si/2VAw9dQh/Srv58p4OBahCjSwwkzFf7c1cs0=; b=Ml+blKkf4AbSlp+eFDByCp7WzkU2orpEeaCWFsdwVZWycKAL3VBjhw+Yl/g8DldQhV PG0fD77hGOnvHeKimI2N0HjVSSvbZY8a+SXnA6AvksecQ1jKuxuEsDGxAzRLLmT77TJc 9oOGsq3zqy77N9joMluiHF9EEQtU7YgaAoGh0BYO8wy6JoQzgAVhWk720utrzQ9n3Xel sifCFml66X4txgF1SdEnzEvm6IQbHOm29d4uzgSvP1jdfxe+x98ixbccDdYWh7+9/uoe tEv38yHBQ2VRPIKvCaWUhsX8tEB2T1ZZfe+F+d62Vl3yITIMGYImR28omV7qzsE8AsN/ I7GA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=h4y33Si/2VAw9dQh/Srv58p4OBahCjSwwkzFf7c1cs0=; b=flwVu5lC6lEMQWdenA7Do7cW3C80lUBWsvAF4MnAr7lN8ODLMAbCjkP9pe8fUEmnWC WU9ozr1gEmAD2UVRWP56lboD2Z9KKKQ2KA0iY0cJNTI77N0ISyYiU1rQnP8IH6sZlBeq qxmxd23uXixFJzYRUUzZWuX1mwKmX29FDlW8LUyEcT9kr8GY+PaWm/IuTyH1wMeGjQn2 2G+5/UQmKs8bWYnndYOVMWS78L6OMpweTtoLzLR1IMbOBsnlp3FcfiDufFjWRMrLJxrY cYxQ9DdK+6fyEg3J1GmXjRpldvM31mzffp9Ucbljoy5ASeh1oDhgsLIOv4T8HL1kPZzs Xkgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfxenCJQwmMr+6H4Kh1Lzj6sU8k08qv7XoimsP0RYBAvj4KO1Nm jBP3ZbCTlOOA07oGyp9NvcfV5pPv5pLZAuJ8Jr46sA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5IAWExESmHACxvqStVX1196OW3PzdUGAP5ho3Ve96X5WQ5W0fV+PfWqnqEbNgKrqsknIWQaTXJ5tYa2D0PhgQ= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:6652:: with SMTP id b18mr8740429uaq.46.1546556338060; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:58:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1546428469.1787.2@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <1546428469.1787.2@smtp.migadu.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 23:58:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Greg V , andrnils@gmail.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CACF46DA3A X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=Ml+blKkf; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::92e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.69)[ip: (-9.58), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.15), asn: 15169(-1.64), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 22:59:00 -0000 On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:27 PM Greg V wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:30 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > Hello world in 2019 :-) > > > > I cannot make my Touchpad two finger scrolling on CF-C2 Panasonic > > Toughbook. It works on Windows very nice. I have made it work only > > once in Xorg but never again.. > > > > I have tried on 11.2 and 12.0. Both with PSM+MOUSED and > > PSM0+SYNAPTICS. No success. > > > > As I understand, the old way was to use xf86-input-synaptics. The new > > way is to use PSM with synaptics support enabled and then use moused + > > xf86-input-mouse..? > > > > I would like to stick to the new way of using PSM kernel driver, then > > moused and sysmouse as mouse input for Xorg. > > > > The problem is that both PSM nor SYNAPTICS does not seem to recognise > > the device. I get ID 0 for PSM. Tried various flags. No success.. > > Make sure you have hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 in /boot/loader.conf > > moused is *not* the new way. Forget moused, disable it completely, it is > designed only for basic mice, it will never work with touchpads' > advanced capabilities. > > The new way is evdev/libinput. Unfortunately evdev wasn't enabled by > default in > 12.0-RELEASE, I think you have to switch to 12-STABLE snapshots at least > (or rebuild a 12 kernel manually). Thank you Greg for response.. I guess it the moused+psm is not the default/new way we could update the wiki/documentation.. this kind of scrolling interaction is mandatory after anyone ever worked on a MacBookPro Prackpad :-) I even made Wacom touchscreen and pen working on that laptop which is really neat.. so how sad not to have basic two finger scroll.. Sure I have tried with hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" but then I have no mouse at all even in the VT console using moused. Debugging PSM at level 2 does not seem to produce different results - each time I get the same data, which would confirm why mouse cursor is not moving.. but what is the cause of such PSM TrackPad stall? I guess I have exhausted all possible permutations of MOUSED PSM SYNAPTICS X11 w/oHAL w/oAutoAddDevices :-( I have also noticed libinput but had no luck with that either.. What is very interesting that on my other desktop machine that I am playing with AMDGPU I have Microsoft wireless keyboard with Touchpad included.. and that touchpad worked right from scratch after plugging in the USB micro receiver :\ I noticed lots of positive comments about out-of-the-box support for Trackpad in OpenBSD and NetBSD.. it would be really nice if we also had that kind of support in FreeBSD :-) Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 09:40:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32931422F81 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 09:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albert@acervin.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x531.google.com (mail-ed1-x531.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::531]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CED498883A for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 09:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albert@acervin.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x531.google.com with SMTP id b14so31236928edt.6 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 01:40:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=acervin-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=byGvRBaqV3nOOP7GD6KVpUmeKtFYEGzboOfozzZ/n90=; b=VXB4yu0Xi8R4v6beirbVKlX3lOczww55AwJGUDGaijOuhUhtYrxrK3+0whOGglQoiL hLoI1jK1Gb61ooqh05ThTN6678i5tk4pa9pCaXR/bOG3YMNG87zpJH8glg/Bp3kYEQZM UPKIppNSQ0Q9o+9oqYHddA8Zj2hDUkSfXnYmXyc6VkqECfGONJHNJhZQCwfnKjyfyrah DbarV+V/Oq/Jzp9Tzi4ADcPQn2FOvEe2MUFqB2Jo8UxSUHBQQY1rHfk2vpHbojP+9JXj mBVXtpUHdGxKnLBqMkhrHaeqccYxYGO9dC5t3NmXbHdU8YN59PXs1PKK8ECxA8fgC/mR n8LA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=byGvRBaqV3nOOP7GD6KVpUmeKtFYEGzboOfozzZ/n90=; b=VLaKPZxyD/itRjecJaFWkbSmY8DAi+jLl0UWzQmH7L5o2OhcZ4S7sUnupkZjrH+xJB jhxIAZnAlIIt2uhwaLSFdfKUBwTlU2zrwYpjzs3e4puYl8bc/V6WZykVm92BcOe1T598 B6WnpPUAlDR+W9HHBeESTXoComIvR7o7Pa3wcI5bHE/4zxaggtLxhzzYXtWuH+lQgix6 YV+efOZkycwSUAVNQliuOpuXe6kduy4v3e9EC369ERdiYvfnvOENysCiTGUmm0SCXc/4 2QVAEzOhFa4f20Y91nkefEYoOeAP2rjQh2mLMHwobPu6+yc1ErtaGj3YjmcMyixLynLB nhFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdIe/MH8wdmVoCzSjcOGvRgT3z4ZKvLY5Xc6TUxSvCdsAbcVryT JlFN0sg42NKqxp0XdcSCT9MPxKFJv6xe2MuTe2qgwCiYDHE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5VlJ8kazlSaisgyNKAYpVmtjvRCtWoeYQ/bCVxy//ttly0QRdsczstKC8Lsi2z7yUlXboGiLvj3QDkuPkvMtg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6c97:: with SMTP id s23-v6mr9726409ejr.79.1546594814349; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 01:40:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Albert Cervin Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:40:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Color Emojis in GTK+ applications? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CED498883A X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=acervin-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=VXB4yu0X X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[acervin-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[acervin-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[acervin.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-2.50)[ip: (-8.90), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.87), asn: 15169(-1.65), country: US(-0.08)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 09:40:17 -0000 Hi, I am wondering how I would go about getting suppot for colored emojis in GTK+ applications? I have installed a colored emoji font ( https://www.freshports.org/x11-fonts/twemoji-color-font-ttf/) and done the fontconfig configuration. Colored emojis work fine in Firefox but in GTK+ applications I only get black and white emojis. Alledgedly there should be support in Cairo+Pango+GTK although I see now that the ports version is 1.15.12 and it seems that even though the color support was originally in Cairo 1.15.8 it is listed in the changelog for 1.16.0 and 1.15.8 seems to have been removed/never released. Could this be the reason? I will try to build latest Cairo when I get home but any other pointers would also be appreciated! Thanks! // Albert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 10:35:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761E91424D6A for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D55058A476 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67207E631 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/67207E631; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> <8a1d9b31-8dc7-753c-8d37-1eed2d0bd06a@FreeBSD.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:35:05 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D55058A476 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20712, ipnet:81.2.64.0/18, country:GB]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 10:35:09 -0000 On 03/01/2019 19:48, Carmel NY wrote: > Matthew, I think you might have some say in how FreeBSD operates. When > a user downloads a new version of FreeBSD, lets say version 12.0, they > should get that version. Now, if there is a newer version, lets say > version 12.1 of 12.2, or whatever, the user should be presented with > the option of downloading the latest version. Microsoft does something > similar, and I see no reason not to follow that trend. The user should > be given the option. If there is a newer version available, why should > the end user be handicapped? I have less say than you seem to think. Managing the release strategy and support lifetimes of releases is a current topic engaging a deal of core's attention, with a lot of input from the release engineering and security teams (none of which I'm involved with) -- and this is a contentious topic as there are several large blocks of the user base each of which want apparently contradictory things. Satisfying as many users as possible, without putting the project under an insurmountable support load is going to take some time and effort and a lot of discussion to sort out. Now, we don't have, say, something that pops up in the installer that says "I see you're installing version 12.0, but 12.3 is now available" -- it might be something that could be added, but for my part I'd find it pretty irritating having a computer always trying to second guess what I'm trying to do and making me do pointless work dismissing such pop-ups. Also, we do tend to assume the user has basically been keeping up with FreeBSD release news and has been looking at the FreeBSD.org website and FTP archive, where is it pretty obvious what the currently supported versions are. Also you will be prompted by freebsd-update(8) or pkg(8) during normal maintenance activities when your currently installed system is going out of support. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 11:07:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D361314260C6 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 11:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19D438B4DA for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 11:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1546600056; x=1549192056; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=FWcbMncLLyhOGlkQuMfbfxH9C/TKoP2rRGtyMCCS+3U=; b=HK6jcSQC8t9XmAslQKDIx1ZhkauyiMseQ/H2A2G4LktiIcYy78CWy2GGqhoqDR8EOAmX42rVX3BjWwjr4hY/Hkovt6c5CPW9ZowTBUsavnyGBwcyz/u+HyneLOR9AS7xpQa50UbzAMqNoeTPkWs6EFuuYfFJW82AMWHu0L3Hirg= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTEwMDAwMDNiYmU3ZGIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.187.94.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 4 Jan 2019 06:07:24 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 4 Jan 2019 06:07:23 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gfNJw-000FKQ-PI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:07:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 11:07:20 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 Message-Id: <20190104110720.94585465562aadc6d8e63fb9@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> <8a1d9b31-8dc7-753c-8d37-1eed2d0bd06a@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 19D438B4DA X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=HK6jcSQC; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.56), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.27), asn: 7381(-0.22), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.926,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.26)[0.256,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:07:37 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:35:05 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Also you will be prompted by freebsd-update(8) or pkg(8) during normal > maintenance activities when your currently installed system is going out > of support. It occurs to me that one significant difference between maintaining FreeBSD and maintaining Windows or OS-X (Linux is a mixed bag) is that the former is an active thing driven by the user whereas the others are reactive driven by the vendor. Personally I much prefer the FreeBSD approach, but it also seems likely that a reactive vendor driven approach could be layered on the basic mechanisms (freebsd-update pkg upgrade) without too much difficulty and that some may prefer it that way (I may even have missed something already in the ports - I haven't looked). 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FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.92)[ipnet: 40.64.0.0/10(-2.36), asn: 8075(-2.18), country: US(-0.08)]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[19.12.92.40.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 13:52:35 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:35:05 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: >On 03/01/2019 19:48, Carmel NY wrote: >> Matthew, I think you might have some say in how FreeBSD operates. >> When a user downloads a new version of FreeBSD, lets say version >> 12.0, they should get that version. Now, if there is a newer >> version, lets say version 12.1 of 12.2, or whatever, the user should >> be presented with the option of downloading the latest version. >> Microsoft does something similar, and I see no reason not to follow >> that trend. The user should be given the option. If there is a newer >> version available, why should the end user be handicapped? =20 > >I have less say than you seem to think. Managing the release strategy=20 >and support lifetimes of releases is a current topic engaging a deal >of core's attention, with a lot of input from the release engineering >and security teams (none of which I'm involved with) -- and this is a=20 >contentious topic as there are several large blocks of the user base=20 >each of which want apparently contradictory things. Satisfying as >many users as possible, without putting the project under an >insurmountable support load is going to take some time and effort and >a lot of discussion to sort out. I totally agree. >Now, we don't have, say, something that pops up in the installer that=20 >says "I see you're installing version 12.0, but 12.3 is now available"=20 >-- it might be something that could be added, but for my part I'd find=20 >it pretty irritating having a computer always trying to second guess=20 >what I'm trying to do and making me do pointless work dismissing such=20 >pop-ups. I hate pop-ups too. However, in this scenario, since it is dealing with the initial installation of the OS, I don't think it would be overly intrusive. In my own defense, I am far more annoyed when I find that I have installed something only to find out that it has been preceded by a newer version. If I wanted the older version, that would be fine; however, I feel that I should have had the opportunity to choose a never version if I wanted too. To take this a step further, users are already asked during installation to pick their keyboard, time zone and several other questions. Adding one more to the list, in my humble opinion, will not break the camel's back. >Also, we do tend to assume the user has basically been keeping up with=20 >FreeBSD release news and has been looking at the FreeBSD.org website >and FTP archive, where is it pretty obvious what the currently >supported versions are. Seriously, NEVER assume. >Also you will be prompted by freebsd-update(8) or pkg(8) during normal=20 >maintenance activities when your currently installed system is going >out of support. According to my FreeBSD PC, the latest version is "12.0-RELEASE-p1". I have scoured the FreeBSD website; however I do not see a downloadable ISO available for the version. So, unless I am mistaken, I would have to install the Stable version and then upgrade. Personally, and I mean no offense to anyone, but I find that to be total "BS". Obviously, your opinion may differ. 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I Correct. > have scoured the FreeBSD website; however I do not see a downloadable > ISO available for the version. So, unless I am mistaken, I would have > to install the Stable version and then upgrade. Personally, and I mean Not the Stable version but 12.0-RELEASE and then run freebsd-update to install the binary patches to bring it up to date (or you can do a source upgrade if you really want to or have patched the code). This is very very similar to what happens with every Linux version I have installed, first you install the latest packaged version then use yum or apt to bring it up to date with the latest patches. > no offense to anyone, but I find that to be total "BS". Obviously, your > opinion may differ. Why ? It's pretty much the same model as everyone else. 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FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.93)[ipnet: 104.40.0.0/13(-2.40), asn: 8075(-2.18), country: US(-0.08)]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[50.41.47.104.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 14:10:29 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 14:01:33 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith stated: >On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 13:52:29 +0000 >Carmel NY wrote: > >> According to my FreeBSD PC, the latest version is "12.0-RELEASE-p1". >> I =20 > > Correct. > >> have scoured the FreeBSD website; however I do not see a downloadable >> ISO available for the version. So, unless I am mistaken, I would have >> to install the Stable version and then upgrade. Personally, and I >> mean =20 > > Not the Stable version but 12.0-RELEASE and then run >freebsd-update to install the binary patches to bring it up to date (or >you can do a source upgrade if you really want to or have patched the >code). Sorry, I meant the "RELEASE" version. > This is very very similar to what happens with every Linux > version >I have installed, first you install the latest packaged version then >use yum or apt to bring it up to date with the latest patches. > >> no offense to anyone, but I find that to be total "BS". Obviously, >> your opinion may differ. =20 > > Why ? It's pretty much the same model as everyone else. The > only >real difference is that $LINUX_DISTRO latest release plus updates >doesn't usually have a name whereas because of the FreeBSD release >model the FreeBSD equivalent does have a name. The "why" is simple. You are converting what should be a simple "one step" operation into a two or more step process, which also exponentially increases the time needed to complete the initial installation as well as leaving the door open to potential errors. I am a strong believer in the "KISS" method whenever possible. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 15:43:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D28D142F75A for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 15:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E78B6E344 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 15:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id v13so36937244wrw.5 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 07:43:10 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=7w94Q3dp986VxpA2E2ykAN/SnO4OUH0wucJDXFQ7TqA=; b=G+5WNxyvMY4GZSrhvgFCBmL9i9BJLSaJNuXX01BwcU7Gz1YuLX14OHa3LwpZhT1BAg LGfJoQCMmZyXyRwQjm48UsBCk+m1K/E7RjVJNt1Bmh+MTFgQuR/CNm/A6BBFYKU4CxUB PEYY3k/uZ22XpOBTY4OAjYQNuWrf7Q9/8mmOjN8rOoHBwtjQ9MX48BoWhKlSjs9UusKp nZmx8clVr0OrgtE8b30SdsC4ZOqmfR+38EVprFaU7d30MFXI8n5Ci1XoFm+urRZts4Tp BJeowF6DnfjQZhQdgNYaiuXZyc6SMVZNEWCPhO02qrWxfa0s6YP1VyFDlXc4HE9JW3SV oLsQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfNxkcp7YlSto1TQ/DL0m3dsBu+p7pxjgthvQvOpv5CoVCS1DEs kgyEo5iClUjbEYRWBVESu8epcshp X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5OIyBSSgCaoTWg463eucAMJoY4X7Piu9gYDDVYMia/rN4wa9xE8j3p6V0qW7M4rUL0peMYNQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:f:: with SMTP id h15mr43394682wrx.248.1546616588693; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 07:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.42.12] ([62.56.72.111]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t12sm54252606wrr.65.2019.01.04.07.43.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Jan 2019 07:43:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 760, Issue 6 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Dave B Message-ID: <00fa089b-d736-e535-6073-2fd48126121f@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 15:43:06 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5E78B6E344 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.67 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.67)[ip: (-9.75), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.88), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:43:11 -0000 Remember to backup the RAID contents, if not already done and you want/need to preserve the data, as I'll put money on it, that the existing contents will be lost when you re-initialize the drives with a different software RAID system (aka by ZFS) than is in use at this time by the BIOS or other software.. Take care. Have to ask, if, IF the BIOS is handling the existing RAID itself, why can't FreeBSD handle the result just like a single drive?  Of course, if some tool/driver loaded at boot time by the old OS is doing it, then it's toast in any case. It's worth checking if it's a plug in disc controller that is doing the RAID functionality, if so, then "It's own BIOS" will be handling it, and FreeBSD should just see the one logical drive. That's what happened with Nas4Free (FreeBSD based) when we put on an old HP server at work a few years ago.  The original content data was still lost though.  (Not an issue that time!) Regards. Dave B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 04/01/2019 12:00, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > On 03/01/2019 11:05, Carmel NY wrote: >> That doesn't answer my question. I wanted to know if when I first >> install FreeBSD 12, and choose ZFS as the file system, will it >> recognize the three drives and set them up by default as a RAIDZ (RAID5 >> or do I have to do that manually after FreeBSD is installed? > > You will need to go into your server BIOS and delete the existing RAID > configuration.  The installer will then see all three drives, and you > can tell it to create a RAIDZ over all three of them. > >     Cheers, > >     Matthew -- Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software: From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 16:14:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0E314305B9 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com (mail-wm1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A9D76F23D for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id g67so1683434wmd.2 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 08:14:09 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=Nigc11RRVUHW/2kf792QBInWTeA4YlCR4PAV4Ya77Zs=; b=PTEpdCZUsz77Xquq8UsIs36K/zYmQw+4XA+gcbONZoS0DBuxtKk4bTOvRczM1hdJCI E621bOHGgppfMvR4vLDwL8zbU/SH+0eJck8R6Nn1PP4tzp+nyYhrFZVPfymt1DhMmWBT emmaZe/IlEyeUqzlcUCZ4DozsklJWOp6AUyGbWrQsuKUeZ//Ypi6ZrnT3HIbYf8rnBCn rwQ5ZVW3TAWS0YjgB0yhK12sKQj23IF1YxZNYvM0d++CvqQXi4yjkT5ZRdG44PhgWC2C js41XNreM/8tgw7KE6Bzs+oLKRVjwOrLtdUVBjnl4P0JRHfja4C2m1/7zKPzHpft53I8 cbew== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcLUlh1LB8o/+yOc9kwzkddwiFRiXjd3MmxMdcLyR5yrPytCNCy 51cOzirLnTIMAVF7B8ZyGXDRQVQk X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN59TPNn6icTtZ5aaXn8dLcsHSypvqOITuLuFfjP8qzj9Y3KMopmLQfgng310ay4mZEfHoyRoQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:934b:: with SMTP id v72mr1894709wmd.5.1546618448304; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 08:14:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.42.12] ([62.56.72.111]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j8sm2786827wmd.0.2019.01.04.08.14.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Jan 2019 08:14:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 760, Issue 6 To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00fa089b-d736-e535-6073-2fd48126121f@googlemail.com> <20190104155750.GA48956@neutralgood.org> From: Dave B Message-ID: <68188ee5-14f1-47a6-f4d8-fd049102f12c@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:14:06 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190104155750.GA48956@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0A9D76F23D X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.51 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.972,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.53)[ip: (-9.01), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.88), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 16:14:11 -0000 Understood re what ZFS can do, much the same as high end hardware controllers with their own embedded software (BIOS) then.  (I forget the make/model, but I know that one card cost well over twice what the rest of the server machine cost when new!) Only know that, as in it's original life, one of the drives went sick fairly early in it's life so needed replacing.  After it was replaced, and a lot of boot time scary messages, it rebuilt the RAID all by itself, then booted as if nothing had happened!   Neat!. Regards.     Dave B. On 04/01/2019 15:57, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 03:43:06PM +0000, Dave B via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Have to ask, if, IF the BIOS is handling the existing RAID itself, why >> can't FreeBSD handle the result just like a single drive?  Of course, if >> some tool/driver loaded at boot time by the old OS is doing it, then >> it's toast in any case. > If the array is presented to FreeBSD as a single drive then FreeBSD is more > than able to use it as a single drive. > > But ZFS wouldn't be able to provide the error correction that it provides > when ZFS manages the array itself. ZFS does checksumming, and if a block > is corrupted then ZFS wants to be able to reconstruct the bad block. But > if ZFS isn't managing the array then ZFS can't do this reconstruction. > You can somewhat work around that by setting the copies=2 option, but that > cuts your available space in half due to duplicating every block of data. > -- Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software: From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 16:59:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE5E1431BA7 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5193370C42 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8A34E6A7 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/C8A34E6A7; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> <8a1d9b31-8dc7-753c-8d37-1eed2d0bd06a@FreeBSD.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <61b4143c-1991-805e-4b4e-8ddb3c20b032@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:59:46 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 16:59:51 -0000 On 04/01/2019 13:52, Carmel NY wrote: > According to my FreeBSD PC, the latest version is "12.0-RELEASE-p1". I > have scoured the FreeBSD website; however I do not see a downloadable > ISO available for the version. So, unless I am mistaken, I would have > to install the Stable version and then upgrade. Personally, and I mean > no offense to anyone, but I find that to be total "BS". Obviously, your > opinion may differ. Ah... Patch levels are not releases. That is, for an errata or security fix they do not regenerate the entire set of release images and put them on the website. So, yeah -- you'll find installer images for FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE but you will then need to apply the patches to get to 12.0-RELEASE-p1 The reason for that is principally because the pN patch levels are mostly used for security fixes, and it's important to get those out PDQ. The process of building all of the installer images simply takes too long. Indeed, there was an occasion fairly recently when a pretty serious SA came out pretty much in the middle of building the release bits, and the upshot was the release was delayed a week or so and eventually came out as X.Y-RELEASE-p1. Also be aware that the terminology 'stable' means something completely different to most FreeBSD people than the way you're apparently using it. '12.0-STABLE' is a development branch which is called STABLE because it is meant to run stably, not because it doesn't change. This is a different usage to much of the rest of the world. What can I say? The FreeBSD project does things a bit differently, and it isn't going to change the way it has been doing stuff for the last 20+ years just for the sake of conformity to some else's arbitrary nomenclature. 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NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:44:00 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:59:46 +0000, Matthew Seaman stated: >On 04/01/2019 13:52, Carmel NY wrote: >> According to my FreeBSD PC, the latest version is "12.0-RELEASE-p1". >> I have scoured the FreeBSD website; however I do not see a >> downloadable ISO available for the version. So, unless I am >> mistaken, I would have to install the Stable version and then >> upgrade. Personally, and I mean no offense to anyone, but I find >> that to be total "BS". Obviously, your opinion may differ. =20 > >Ah... Patch levels are not releases. That is, for an errata or >security fix they do not regenerate the entire set of release images >and put them on the website. So, yeah -- you'll find installer images >for FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE but you will then need to apply the patches >to get to 12.0-RELEASE-p1 > >The reason for that is principally because the pN patch levels are=20 >mostly used for security fixes, and it's important to get those out >PDQ.=20 > The process of building all of the installer images simply takes too=20 >long. Indeed, there was an occasion fairly recently when a pretty=20 >serious SA came out pretty much in the middle of building the release=20 >bits, and the upshot was the release was delayed a week or so and=20 >eventually came out as X.Y-RELEASE-p1. > >Also be aware that the terminology 'stable' means something completely=20 >different to most FreeBSD people than the way you're apparently using=20 >it. '12.0-STABLE' is a development branch which is called STABLE=20 >because it is meant to run stably, not because it doesn't change. >This is a different usage to much of the rest of the world. What can >I say? The FreeBSD project does things a bit differently, and it isn't >going to change the way it has been doing stuff for the last 20+ years >just for the sake of conformity to some else's arbitrary nomenclature. I inadvertently used the term "STABLE" when I meant "RELEASE". Sorry about that. Interestingly enough, I have had users who are not using some form of *nix tell me that the terms seem counter intuitive. Stable would seem to indicate a final version where release would seem to be something that was not yet quantified as stable. By the way, and nothing personal, but your claim that "installer images simply takes too long" in invalid. It reminds me of the old adage, "There is never enough time to do it right, but there is always enough time to do it over." If you cannot do it right, hire people who can. Unfortunately, I have to deal with individuals at work all the time who find excuses for doing slipshod work under the pretense that it takes to long to do it correctly. I usually fire them. In any case, nothing is going to be resolved here today. Thanks for your time. > Cheers, > > Matthew --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 19:06:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769741435CB6 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4979276E9C for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0C42AD79B for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x04J5pXL049528 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 14:05:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x04J5pqt049525 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 14:05:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 14:05:50 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing [the latest] FreeBSD .. was HO RAID .. 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When >> a user downloads a new version of FreeBSD, lets say version 12.0, they >> should get that version. Now, if there is a newer version, lets say >> version 12.1 of 12.2, or whatever, the user should be presented with >> the option of downloading the latest version. Microsoft does something >> similar, and I see no reason not to follow that trend. The user should >> be given the option. If there is a newer version available, why should >> the end user be handicapped? > > I have less say than you seem to think. Managing the release strategy and > support lifetimes of releases is a current topic engaging a deal of core's > attention, with a lot of input from the release engineering and security > teams (none of which I'm involved with) -- and this is a contentious topic as > there are several large blocks of the user base each of which want apparently > contradictory things. Satisfying as many users as possible, without putting > the project under an insurmountable support load is going to take some time > and effort and a lot of discussion to sort out. It seemes to me that this thread is covering two disjoint topics, one of which I am totally not qualified to speak on. The other just requires an opinion so ... In keeping with the Unix dictum, "I will not stop you from doing something stupid because that might also stop you from doing something exceedingly clever", I think ... this is not an issue that should consume large parts of anyone's time until experts stop telling me when going from 11.x to 12.x you might want to use a clean image. My severs are 40 miles and 3 hours (at the wrong time of day) away. What's wrong with going to freeBSD.org and seeing what's what. A bigger problem for me is I have some systems that got to be very out of date and I can not get a clean update path without being physically present. Running the freebsd-update process two times for me is a nonevent matched against the above problems. I might like a slightly longer support TTL, but the problems in that are obvious and, probably insurmountable. 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I might like a slightly longer >support TTL, but the problems in that are obvious and, probably >insurmountable. There is no failure except in no longer trying. There is no defeat except from within, no really insurmountable barrier save our own inherent weakness of purpose. -- Kin Hubbard --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 19:48:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356C01437795 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F181810C9 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; 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RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.33)[-0.326,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[googlemail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 19:48:46 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:14:06 +0000 Dave B via freebsd-questions wrote: > Understood re what ZFS can do, much the same as high end hardware > controllers with their own embedded software (BIOS) then.  I have never seen a hardware raid with block checksums and automatic repair of silent corruption. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 20:23:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322B11438B1F for ; 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Sorry > about that. You can understand the FreeBSD-specific terminology when you think about a "distillery process": HEAD / CURRENT This is where actual development takes place. Things are introduced, tested, changed very often, and sometimes even removed. You usually track this branch via svn. It is primarily intended for developers who need the absolutely most recent version of the code. This can be slightly (!) compred with "rolling release", but as this is a development branch, there is no guarantee the software will run correctly - or even compile. STABLE All the changes considered "good" and "stable" are located here. The ABI is _stable_ across the many STABLE versions, which means that no further need for reinstalling / recompiling ports is given. Again, svn is the common tool to access this branch. This version is intended for users who want "bleeding edge software" that they can rely on. STABLE versions are happening less often. BETA ALPHA RCx (release candidate) RELEASE This finally will be what ends up in the images to be written to optical media and USB sticks. It is the final result of release engineering and is "the complete operating system, in a fixed state". You typically get this from the FTP server or a mirror. A RELEASE only happens once. RELEASE-pX The security patches are to be applied with the freebsd-update program to add important fixes to the installed RELEASE version. Those patches are issued as needed. This is quite simplified, but I think it's still a good analogy about how FreeBSD development happens and what a common interpretation of the terms is. As you can see, STABLE is a somewhat "moving" thing... ;-) > Interestingly enough, I have had users who are not using > some form of *nix tell me that the terms seem counter intuitive. > Stable would seem to indicate a final version where release would seem > to be something that was not yet quantified as stable. Fully correct - depending on who you ask, there can be enormous differences in the exegesis of termini technici, and the termini themselves can significantly change upon domain. > By the way, and nothing personal, but your claim that "installer images > simply takes too long" in invalid. It reminds me of the old adage, > "There is never enough time to do it right, but there is always enough > time to do it over." If you cannot do it right, hire people who can. In my opinion, providing RELEASE-pX images (patched versions) could be a nice addition to the offerings FreeBSD already has. I think you will agree that STABLE "snapshots" probably aren't that interesting, while BETA, ALPHA, and RCs might be useful for testers. Given an Internet connection is activated upon system installation time, a non-intrusive dialog could be presented like this: You are about to install FreeBSD 12.0. Currently there are patched versions available which you can install. Please select the version you want: [ ] FreeBSD 12.0 of 2018-12-12 [ ] FreeBSD 12.0 p1 of 2019-01-23 [ ] FreeBSD 12,0 p2 of 2019-02-34 Sorry for the nonsense dates. :-) This is especially handy for installation via "bootonly" media where no actual data to be installed is present. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Debug shows always the same data, the mouse pointed does not move. Without Synaptics enabled it works fine. Any hints appreciated :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 22:32:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0F9143C298 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B28187922 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:32:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 0ABE7CBB-EC24-4A3D-A10F-3BACC126C3AA.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:32:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:32:32 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=A1lUllzAP46ZHS26F0+13vzK8+/CzbOKsr6NAUFOc5Q=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=NThVVDgcIFyCcqX68gxZ5w+WbcuT3tA57hoJxYQM7RkH5NZMQPC7j+0JXbgr9ViK7+Ro6swjjE8wW4zY5YP+jZPZsNHw2RyG4tpiGCUgWHQ8xxHUXTzj4VXJJfNRlrDLGixS8GoNC+MTn1kq0Pi2s5e7xHhaNl61fj1glKBwe8c= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2B28187922 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=NThVVDgc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[aspmx1.migadu.com,aspmx2.migadu.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-4.07), asn: 16276(0.45), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:32:43 -0000 On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 1:14 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > Can anyone help why hw.psm.synaptics_enable="1" makes my TrackPad > stop working? > Debug shows always the same data, the mouse pointed does not move. > Without Synaptics enabled it works fine. > Any hints appreciated :-) What settings do you have on the x11 side? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 22:44:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA39F143C887; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A3758822F; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com with SMTP id e7so23563522vsc.2; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 14:44:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CbVJBsOHHbhkMSRmgt/eaZCrnZ8/NAhp9jPZOSExh/k=; b=gKri5gap+uZeudloHbauhZOrS2O2Y+XS9caDsWPw9hp4x1S6bXEQ7/kDIp+JoZzf10 BzRnykd3H+Fv4A2oaKeU0DeJf0jvWBIgGtqUo2rrn2aih7ZMbjG+iYZ4fKi0mQm7kI4M ovaJjBtFxejkc60iWXuxa8alA4gEcpdeYKU+spVe0hn3zmQXytb4LkbxkU+EI6oReQo9 7j1kgYpTOSk5bFHcklDB2UlGE/BGRHEAXieuNc7/efvFeiVd4rP+A+RntBTmhdOYp1RR zInggTgjh0DjBlWE11dreNJOn7OLDpruq4ZQDVRBJdXzcjVFrLdjGUHnRnE7GDjnE+2w ybDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CbVJBsOHHbhkMSRmgt/eaZCrnZ8/NAhp9jPZOSExh/k=; b=JcJ/HKySkwEojz72LwP9+pyaIj+qL2XjUQa+sbgyq13xNms2f7vNPVF6L8r4/doxCG E+EssSgM4DHNBHqZA8gqpXmwBCaFxdb3icdPsAdCtkMd2+XMNIwV+z5CaX3Mp139uGI6 f+N5h5f0YX3TuzoqMA+y51LxYMPGa4lflCXc3hidLKGxFDyaMZmzhNIkxoUM+yi4kx0o PnlLFneDy2ULSc88n+PwLZ4aw3e1SslMPJbknEqvRCyQExgOcoW+9JVVdQYXENTmt0tf xmzw20ToAZVyyr2j/5KsYt4+jiTS0yntAYg9DRk4QKkZitrk2kQd/zO1OJabS1uRQBLR Yfvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYwPyxXb6V+oZNUCXsxR+NFk39kj6gk90XXFtUYCT0XT0T7kn8b Rj+7EloNR5aI2klUw1jdq0+xIW/xbz6xZtqYpDnrYw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VNSg1orL7maN2G20JevaIU4+YQSsezVCcXlubvAs2vJZbl2AvTBnHx8vJ8Afmqws7B0k3jl45QI//b7SSKxHk= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ac0c:: with SMTP id v12mr21602798vse.121.1546641895303; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 14:44:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:44:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Greg V Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1A3758822F X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=gKri5gap; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.94 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.971,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.76)[ip: (-9.85), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.19), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:44:57 -0000 On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:32 PM Greg V wrote: > What settings do you have on the x11 side? I would like to clarify the PSM/Synaptics first.. I have tried all combinations of X11 configurations - mouse and synaptics - using moused and directly from /dev/psm0 alternatively.. I even made my Wacom touchscreen working.. still this Touchpad bothers me and would really come handy in everyday work :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 22:51:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AA8143CCE8; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42BDA88661; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MTw02-1gnhE30ulW-00Qxig; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:51:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:51:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 Message-Id: <20190104235121.feaed44e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:MApy1vq9yXgvTEWY+iIGrAxl7bM6TqLPaPCE+qAP+zdTLohoKk6 +82PZEIks3GQ+DFFSpA/rCdv6Dj3xsLs53fIBEIRh97s/zucMvtrUV22gsQSa1+QcuCBvYd PGGe+ZUghMm6VjIImlJuykbqr5z8jT5IH7WC8H9VTP4V1ZIqhoajYw2LxHN4emP/q+DvzlI jf3Uah59iPsLic7ioqKkA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:sM5f0IWo3xI=:+djpD+k9Uyo2JDfo/fFFUo 8N1MY+VqrNNCKs9yX4sKXn99L2GPWgZQmYh50UEzC7OzUPCNEEW3hMf8DOPt3GeEh7R5jSlug uoctF0K2TrDGpkX0jzIuMLBxuFbJJ56MsphbReOHTs5h73hbJM3p3Uc97mwnmS8mHLpxiulVM c/YHFX1AtnkWXtcOZfB+hj0MngkuR2c/6tjXgnondKGOH86Qs06Y4iO9zn6UcdU9PHnR0kKgM m+0FB+RiSMIO2poRoHfRJmgfM2/301dcliGhMuU9QXd0PW/cbg8LZD0blTldW1cuvBVS6Z5Rf mOC5groFHGAKgEoRVpTjc1eyLfza2ydJ7o6dm/F3VfUmSImF+ZbnSZq3UnBDLRHAgWnwKB1rj SnA1xSkFuaLTowqbLcvpoGfma1d8yz5Seac6PzQYSSOLCNPcZWpH6wsFnmsT7KEFeNm12YBzH dD+d20e7P7sNXr1jy3vkRtrP1UO/3MFEAGQD8P21p8gl08HVi87TECoqfyVCymvVM0WJz24Gn h5BBS+H867h6glOFSkE/f3WJGnl3a5Rs2attC+PVsCVyS/h/DHc9R13y+3IP/H4LnC9HbQFIO a5eYX2sgazdh/T934Iof7XwJaoPZ1iEIycnqqUBOcM4T23/UgNDO3sHq5Sd7xKa7gnpCDfl3b DFmsxoEX40g1AqM1Ual9NAuYklSb7M1CEKTxTsDKntdDMXAzMA2tQ6emEhHbnJFYtQRZr24yp LqyBgHT7ME4osmDa6BMXwgkYpIkOuLMIX8z73KAK78xiEd7840REjf8J280= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 42BDA88661 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.26 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.71)[0.713,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.80)[0.801,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.996,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.36)[ip: (1.13), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.40), asn: 8560(1.07), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:51:30 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:14:31 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > Can anyone help why hw.psm.synaptics_enable="1" makes my TrackPad stop working? You need to differentiate between "works in console mode" and "works in X". For the console mode, normal mouse functions will be available, but typically Synaptics-specific things are not supported. Technically, it is represented as a PS/2 mouse (psm), but with extended touchpad features. For X, you only need hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" in /boot/loader.conf. For the scolling feature, add hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_hor_area=1300 to /etc/sysctl.conf. There are a few other settings that you can tweak: https://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad However, don't bother with console mode and moused. There is also the suggestion of using a partial xorg.conf entry. While the Wiki mentions /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you'd better use some file like /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf with the content as suggested: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Then start X and examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log for suspicious entries. Having the Wiki entry match the _current_ way of making the Synaptics touchpad work would be great. > Debug shows always the same data, the mouse pointed does not move. I assume you're using moused's debugging feature? Forget about moused and console. :-) > Without Synaptics enabled it works fine. Correct, because now it's a "normal mouse". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 22:56:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32257143D312 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60B1188A90 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:56:46 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 554F0041-53C7-4650-9F68-4116A46D0E5A.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:56:46 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:56:40 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1546642600.2475.2@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=DA6EpSZOHUQ0mprZQf6FiZPqE9+Bapx+/Q63OwIl4g4=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=ZAgtbayzF90Y85p5J2BFyV5BT4Tbkurz49wHDWXR4tgsvG7CH3ooL/tNGKos+D273Or4jS1CAPHheQU90HBWjLc/vPRkUZLoRCQhfvcltfDBjqsDqAS+q9+a+p+r7vun3gW0jQXLApLJQ668hyXUvoQvCYyMPz2jvKP7oXH1AIU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 60B1188A90 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=ZAgtbayz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: aspmx1.migadu.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.72)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-4.14), asn: 16276(0.45), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:56:49 -0000 On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 1:44 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:32 PM Greg V wrote: >> What settings do you have on the x11 side? > > I have tried all combinations of X11 configurations - mouse and > synaptics - using moused and directly from /dev/psm0 alternatively.. What *exactly* did you try in xorg.conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 22:59:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C04B143D467; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28E3588BBD; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MREqy-1h0Ocd3spw-00NALd; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:54:24 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:54:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 Message-Id: <20190104235423.690bf399.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QJzClBnxIzMrNDDys/Mo2cO7dP4wkOwSOB9CgAZ7PWAJHK6mD2n tEbJ225lqFDBpEM1IDgnKYhMSXvts9+Ook1Fv8nsJuj7n6PaQyX4zfetkkL7Ve2j0VRul1q wEXxBUgJZLnr1MpkUuqQkao7Ni1RRNhb7uoOeB/ued6HJsS6i7YgcQMK2kzX8om8OHr04TX CZXNyo7h3AyzW77Jiz3ZQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:W4DRYRj1m84=:QH4sT/llFmsyVzQ+RqoYmA Hz7yFhHzUzm6uyaay/Qwciu4brG9wUl+3vEiC8sr2jnika7DoZGos4UpghSkEiWdAF2cBT7NW 612+CRn//3rpfEapcRdctaXx/uHCyrK6uuQIxMFDK0XRRIWzOTFFBIfZ+XKEmx11h1hzd+eNM 6fUqwxa3nRyhQ8WbRU+/bWtgLbmkmcpuE2fq9JEs5+K/0Gh6pFGjAKGrJkES9rceuusdciYXp C505pHc+YMCNf7b7hJyEpYZPU2xfr+Lbv3bE5RhuFfQCCYXK8tCStFDLLHqv17inF/9+GK3VQ bSBWhKIpQmlENIuvhJzREynz2vWXfV7WI0zqpxKkKSi/YFjjRa4wWCNqH+ExUQQ4saJ987xEX 4OjuZ22dG3EBhCK0vvPr7i/Q44213dwATzpKMBFq5mB8TVWpwM1rnKvia32WOeL2pRcdO8nlc hHqBaRjUD8nYDYIxf+Exey6jPn+zM7jmqaO/HfNqF4P2gR7qQ/8EuNRPOnpYWX/w3En/tZNOf VgBDZ8NXhBC6qQNZcG9SA38M8UwZqJq7Z0pmy5PLUTcAaRk97SlehS9T4p2jCZEo95VLuJi8Y lOUamOoUyipNGU5IAfGCnK1/y1hxxYnomFB3dEs5HskSkMCQaxTj3flzYIK3lWzV+pit8JMHk 8uTCutNS4dYzEzk3QdZfFvXelmXef0C9cXNLwSHG6+NXJRNG8MgsmnEsWWe9NwqVUhdTQFsg2 PXyPb/B0f5Jr9YbMlUVpyqkKEaamV4H/cPdBtIKmiji6EbtHoxzEuFn1NVo= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 28E3588BBD X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.06 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.81)[0.805,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.984,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.88)[ip: (3.77), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.40), asn: 8560(1.07), country: DE(-0.01)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:59:44 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:14:31 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > Any hints appreciated :-) Addition: For X, you should install the required additional packages: x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics x11/libsynaptics There is a forum article that mentions a few more additions to the X configuration, but that's from FreeBSD 10 (ca. 2016), I'm not sure this still applies... https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-use-synaptics-driver-for-better-touchpad-features.54872/ Maybe it's still useful for inspiration about what else to try. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 23:07:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA9D143D844; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1E1E89086; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com with SMTP id t17so23589562vsc.8; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:07:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7TOBlhe1GpFZhDrw4LajsP8MhD4QNqrFDsVX5AP1iqs=; b=A1XibILWmsOZaqq+qt8e+ZwwO6OgC10lSUS2TXbIE03G9EfFRkdNNw2vh5HmkxbJiq /HxzMV1Y3xaJQrv0a5BudkA1ykbM67gOHUDZgeICTcN5J94nQ5dXof9zuZBJnCP3Ot2P 5yh/RkerZZ5DR1fZLIkBA6ex9UfrYgKAYKF5OhpnqnlBJmIOQhFFGWNQ++k6oaTlxGlH CzWG1fwfjCPCM+ProLWV5KRwxzTy3PwzuFY4juhxsXkd5/S8prW3JFWrDLezEWa+WAo2 3fGpRsr7TcLGFt68KAr8wK4+esmlsYGJrIXgv2HSKHcFrfldp4p9yTneJbDbX+qruRz6 arkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7TOBlhe1GpFZhDrw4LajsP8MhD4QNqrFDsVX5AP1iqs=; b=kw8a3tMeUMpxbN/biTR2VRyyTfCRMCK/iNkPEIMLRFjT8T4jNl5AVqKxPGjycB1NXA Ng50DEt0lrYnzDCbHxv5EoAlLY2PIb865i+wWUDfAATteKIs0hoMMTsV8l853bnHV59o 2rhFWpb8mSJdVO4FYF2zuBC/n1zI/Ja+yUDDDkrUJfiZXCXgV/evnzvDvwMh1h8xd1sE X+JdqRYbHunKGrCtbmkxJ0VPbxjBy4NAekT7hRO3VPj7Dyx3XWMwAz8Zc2SpVZGn9lre SAa1gAD53t/bCVQNkBXpNKN9Wg1+u8xFk1AqJ0Xf4AfSeii6dgKwVfxRvSJaSenUAYzv ub8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcteoNjF5oY1hKfnuanmnk9nwdy8Ix6a8iQ35lVGuySGqIZBoCO bWSUtjxlvC/bt11Mgf+H78nZ/oSyAgKel+lXTiKEz/xi X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XJSYqvMmfi8JUKVGSZf3Dzv1yXhcDltys17RC21elblzXgjp+IT9BLuyex5Ix1o5mGUFJqIGZJxIVPv5+ExNw= X-Received: by 2002:a67:3885:: with SMTP id n5mr18644297vsi.96.1546643231344; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:07:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190104235121.feaed44e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190104235121.feaed44e.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:07:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C1E1E89086 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=A1XibILW; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-9.57), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.19), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:07:14 -0000 Thanks Poly, I have tried all that.. loader.conf and sysctl.conf.. no success :-( I am using PSM debug at kernel level.. Strange thing is that I have external wireless keyboard+touchpad and that connected via USB box works fine with a two finger scroll.. I had this basic psm+synaptics+moused working on another laptop.. I guess this is some issue with this particular Trackpad.. vendor does say it is Synaptics: http://pc-dl.panasonic.co.jp/itn/info/osinfo20171227.html -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 23:10:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8829B143D98F; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe35.google.com (mail-vs1-xe35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F1E489193; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe35.google.com with SMTP id y27so23629459vsi.1; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:10:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=G5pXD4qhZbqUhFw5VFTycJMRaw4GCPVBxhBD6wU5vpE=; b=f6hI+6R4Uvp5KDAtz2jBRN90qRRvp7oGmE7uuN3QlzVFYGP6UEVfOKMERKbNRVQ0wv 5k7QGgDCGvbvGwapBJhythSRMRUpkNgUY/k/pTJ2NoL6LegNJ55W/mCI2zWpyz60LpuM VEdo7t+nO2wiYwJGfTpzhgvSq7hLANliHe6136dPQFpyutVBzL6QLPQ/67J/RwrqbvGd KgLpKB5yi7TpXinCg2y7bmasMsDvjI1+CjZpadPMCLpxs8cJ9UpzcHGeF2Ie4jVRILJh wF5wTQ3+0Tt91FDdXlCpnwUl9mnKBG0teOPGj5C2IyKz/7JYBSof8QXSfpawwzJcIhzt YMSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=G5pXD4qhZbqUhFw5VFTycJMRaw4GCPVBxhBD6wU5vpE=; b=YOIsItOQpziO3ZwswVGqvVgZH9lAvtXeE6dwJP8ZLNafySuAd/zKaIvvdmtAQG8DSv hG3tl+sfkXWnFejZ1MDi0um2cRJfjXu0JFPBeh9b/qSgqacmiyflgYwotSVfpYbPlXiC CEWmza5TtAkAoohvY897k2L3sI97J6Mj8sup68XnNhJIDzSnHi57zeFKyP9D1M7Yl2i+ DVLDHhwq2pshBRdFfE3b2jP7NCKMzBWWnyDTILG5zfGNJMVuS2QvU/5z8ZJW253RFAaQ XfombVpgz6ey48p67HTEHwvZ8LF1lRtn+oAQNHnv7J5ztMwdwFOP847qdoPyjFNgowmi 9LmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWamH+VvLQQA0borNkm+PVzYZWpmG80/Sg+K4PPeVrFaJ4tPt3Ed t5BObc9gDyv6WSA1cvRegUDrox1ZvpPNJUbwAEj6iA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VUosNlBYJoDG53wjKEaHqvfyi6zq4JC2xobFoCnLHRbOGAzJQhUGy7Y+gX9CNQpw+O4y/eI92LxvD6G2gcw8c= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ac0c:: with SMTP id v12mr21629769vse.121.1546643401628; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:10:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> <1546642600.2475.2@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <1546642600.2475.2@smtp.migadu.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:09:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Greg V Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F1E489193 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=f6hI+6R4; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e35 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.75)[ip: (-9.83), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.19), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:10:03 -0000 On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:56 PM Greg V wrote: > What *exactly* did you try in xorg.conf? InputDevice "Synaptics" when device was set to /dev/sysmouse (moused running) and /dev/psm0 (no moused running). Even though this driver seems to find some default values it then aborts because it cannot detect known device type. InputDevice "mouse" just like above with moused using /dev/sysmouse and without moused directly from /dev/psm0. The problem is when I enable hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" I don't even get mouse moving in the console.. thus I think this may be related to some problem with a psm driver..? -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 23:21:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F552143DF59; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x934.google.com (mail-ua1-x934.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::934]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1ACAE897D8; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x934.google.com with SMTP id v24so12483211uap.13; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:21:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=milXFhpdLzIBhKY8wocvo4TFsO+jBbHOfWeR6Qlyf6s=; b=iolSAJRBgerPnWItccG8VI7ZsnrhwTFYalq8q6+ZdKO7A+2sRDgTFWVIXAJSnw5Mdf My1KCr2bTtuTYuYhyGTxhjIHRPJQIo7n0anak6VSl57/sLOOLNj38ZMFZxiHmI1O4Ar5 weA+TMu8eN2e5FOT/l1/HfYL9f3l3Kq8M/rZrG6GdqUgwyF/TG+fDkEsphMpJFsyYwg6 upMqvqiCsMfScgZFPXgyPvnNWIN9sbUZx8TXKMwHtfZiVxtRIciuRrMV29v2YxEp3xr0 clhHgybH647NHbM8Tf7b20dRBDI4aUw/Pb3su5DQGoSQz6HpDhRM3VmK2rlTm/iueWPt lzhw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=milXFhpdLzIBhKY8wocvo4TFsO+jBbHOfWeR6Qlyf6s=; b=HW9goaUzwZtmPIzbuqoaXBJx/WA1zIzZQFHTNHaJbwV13znhnQVrXgxsLCCzJncOHV xbbYjDJm6YxUKYED7bVqzMxt767nm9d9WASTRl3so6cHScIaNySDxSaODHRQvflPksc/ 5h9NpAT3noEGFEJUBmF4Ek6qJJPFuKoq7A0ELktn5gL/KDOMYEdKZIDJy+x7lXqM/q5V +CFsE308YcrEI20OjcHHWrSaMgWFXW/HutwfyXaShLh6XFbBF9LlHEWzDmErQIAdd+vk fPEY/tIor8h24PxL+6ZpqtBH3MLXaQaweSPXQHG+mSTmrEuhh7kxziR6j6aXUXq4BiGz RH+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdEgXF5xv3iuTThvf4cTaJUHLr4XqjCAUskXqTYQEEMM2sPCnuP /bRhVS9feBrL0Gia0rn6HyGSdDF2Ggdxj9WXoJ8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4yVxA7ZBHpNVSb4p1YnYyaCKf7HePiDTxzIo8PbweV1I0/L/11PfAOpN7h9z0hZydGBG56stGIasX0j2Ex/HU= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:6652:: with SMTP id b18mr10346130uaq.46.1546644084246; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:21:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1546427653.1787.0@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <1546427653.1787.0@smtp.migadu.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:21:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL To: Greg V Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1ACAE897D8 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=iolSAJRB; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::934 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.891,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.79)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.19), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:21:26 -0000 On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:15 PM Greg V wrote: > - you might have to run OpenCL applications with > LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libthr.so.3 (when they're single thread applications > like clinfo) https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214204 > - you have to rebuild the kernel driver with this patch > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/33#issuecomment-422793245 > > keep in mind that Clover is not very good. It can't yet handle Blender, > doesn't have image support for Darktable, etc. Thank you Greg! LD_PRELOAD trick does not help.. For instance with john: # john --list=opencl-devices Platform #0 name: Clover Platform version: OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.1.9 Device #0 (0) name: Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 12.0-RELEASE, LLVM 6.0.1) Device vendor: AMD Device type: GPU (LE) Device version: OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.1.9 Driver version: 18.1.9 Native vector widths: char 16, short 8, int 4, long 2 Preferred vector width: char 16, short 8, int 4, long 2 Global Memory: 8.0 GB Local Memory: 32.0 KB (Local) Max memory alloc. size: 5.0 GB Max clock (MHz): 4294968662 Max Work Group Size: 256 Parallel compute cores: 36 Stream processors: 2304 (36 x 64) # john --format=Raw-SHA1-opencl -test Device 0: Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 12.0-RELEASE, LLVM 6.0.1) OpenCL error (UNKNOWN OPENCL ERROR) in file (common-opencl.c) at line (1782) - (Source kernel not found!) With clinfo: # clinfo Number of platforms 1 Platform Name Clover Platform Vendor Mesa Platform Version OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.1.9 Platform Profile FULL_PROFILE Platform Extensions cl_khr_icd Platform Extensions function suffix MESA Platform Name Clover Number of devices 1 Device Name Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 12.0-RELEASE, LLVM 6.0.1) Device Vendor AMD Device Vendor ID 0x1002 Device Version OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.1.9 Driver Version 18.1.9 Device OpenCL C Version OpenCL C 1.1 Device Type GPU Device Profile FULL_PROFILE Max compute units 36 Max clock frequency 1366MHz Max work item dimensions 3 Max work item sizes 256x256x256 Max work group size 256 Preferred work group size multiple 64 Preferred / native vector sizes char 16 / 16 short 8 / 8 int 4 / 4 long 2 / 2 half 8 / 8 (cl_khr_fp16) float 4 / 4 double 2 / 2 (cl_khr_fp64) Half-precision Floating-point support (cl_khr_fp16) Denormals No Infinity and NANs Yes Round to nearest Yes Round to zero No Round to infinity No IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add No Support is emulated in software No Correctly-rounded divide and sqrt operations No Single-precision Floating-point support (core) Denormals No Infinity and NANs Yes Round to nearest Yes Round to zero No Round to infinity No IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add No Support is emulated in software No Correctly-rounded divide and sqrt operations No Double-precision Floating-point support (cl_khr_fp64) Denormals Yes Infinity and NANs Yes Round to nearest Yes Round to zero Yes Round to infinity Yes IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add Yes Support is emulated in software No Correctly-rounded divide and sqrt operations No Address bits 64, Little-Endian Global memory size 8589934592 (8GiB) Error Correction support No Max memory allocation 6440266752 (5.998GiB) Unified memory for Host and Device No Minimum alignment for any data type 128 bytes Alignment of base address 32768 bits (4096 bytes) Global Memory cache type None Image support No Local memory type Local Local memory size 32768 (32KiB) Max constant buffer size 2147483647 (2GiB) Max number of constant args 16 Max size of kernel argument 1024 Queue properties Out-of-order execution No Profiling Yes Profiling timer resolution 0ns Execution capabilities Run OpenCL kernels Yes Run native kernels No Device Available Yes Compiler Available Yes Device Extensions cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_int64_base_atomics cl_khr_int64_extended_atomics cl_khr_fp64 cl_khr_fp16 NULL platform behavior clGetPlatformInfo(NULL, CL_PLATFORM_NAME, ...) Clover clGetDeviceIDs(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL, ...) Success [MESA] clCreateContext(NULL, ...) [default] Success [MESA] clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CPU) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU) Success (1) Platform Name Clover Device Name Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 12.0-RELEASE, LLVM 6.0.1) clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ACCELERATOR) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CUSTOM) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL) Success (1) Platform Name Clover Device Name Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 12.0-RELEASE, LLVM 6.0.1) ICD loader properties ICD loader Name OpenCL ICD Loader ICD loader Vendor OCL Icd free software ICD loader Version 2.2.12 ICD loader Profile OpenCL 2.2 NOTE: your OpenCL library declares to support OpenCL 2.2, but it seems to support up to OpenCL 2.1 only. 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Hello Steve! I hope Greg's hints helped you out - its just matter of installing graphics/amdgpu and proper dri kernel driver - I am building/using latest ones from port tree. Btw - most of the time AMDGPU does not produce the usable workstation setup - loading amdgpu from boot.loader does not work (cannot load firmware because / is not yet mounted) and loading it from rc.conf makes my screen unusable - this is why I am using SCFB for X11 for now and just play with AMDGPU from shell (also using SSH).. -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 23:44:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577DC143E679; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 154F88A2F1; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N3suW-1hNJwV08um-00znmE; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 00:39:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:39:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: Greg V , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 Message-Id: <20190105003925.6862d526.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> <1546642600.2475.2@smtp.migadu.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:rGEHDwHtcG3CK2/Vw46TTWr+rYlQRhO9Xl/iyCUv3o1gnPOxeYB WaKv6GVGNVYQZU5QzDi7M6y0SiebrdN5E6ZhQZ2hGnpJoB9jySjBHr1cA7MOWrfD7jgdc6v KIk9MuU4O1hw1vqumcvYtc6BIiIdglXPBdAduhytuMU+oLxmUH0qp+aOuTMKH+E+EFWc5cr ZtAsrWEdFgrofg4FKTmow== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:X0ZZgA2dsEY=:KDgJNcLn8rLGC8f07ofqmu a7LgywKep3n4NYxAfnQlGFBa4qUbSTOpONBmvAF2dI5Pfj6uB+DR1keiZUAliJFkQDzRRJtxz 13TFiRowVpfSAtaqyOT6ucMXX7kiyTyZ4qbzVgacDeJUEpyJAcvp5jHtiyZVTZw8jvlXM+eBe 9Gsd4Ep57jB0B6KQ1Zn3NT81sYU5W/xCn7E5Klkk1eplWGHUWz/n0MD5sSmyI95DXQ9rlS/TD OV4hSsL419RpVz/DKV6J+xJvKap9KpEJIhWimmcOiHoEfV77kZsIy12olm/Hw6PLKExWWy9gu asuW5w7cfFd97lQuOfY2eDxQHKv6kELOENLBhPbs8adTruXBhHw+Dy++TBrGyQNK8GwWFFJZm geBY34q2QMSnuaQnEIFBdi2HiknFzB3zhfBaNFMtHiGMLb09xAALwvYjRSZZ/S01zHyGbYZGb nt0JYQFMV0nF/1xMer2iRxBpFVqEY/q9VFIbq8DQpxDuuwTwsPKHe7U2FKaNPOOwhGyq+U0EJ RRYeQVAblFz2Z/S6CkqDOhi55N6/a82QdCsfPgf/fQqJi1+iRjlx6DB2prJRsNtIfbMl/qY0n 71y0JCkRX7uaRrvG36y03MBJlHi1Hu9UXoGNVhF9aNECIz1/b26jsg01QlmOvVlcrZmwQrpIT 8SH4ni9vg2cXODkCqqCj+LFZMgDEJBeD4Y1qGXNY2c0VNbah7W28HRNKcSB5i5QwtMhPcIGQq uVNZ7AGTVu1FsMqZIhvmL3vTF5gkZCprc4UEQjSoEjSEC2RHw2JDTx81Gpw= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 154F88A2F1 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.19 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.981,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.985,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.83)[ip: (3.50), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.40), asn: 8560(1.06), country: DE(-0.01)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:44:46 -0000 On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:09:59 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:56 PM Greg V wrote: > > What *exactly* did you try in xorg.conf? > > InputDevice "Synaptics" when device was set to /dev/sysmouse (moused > running) and /dev/psm0 (no moused running). Even though this driver > seems to find some default values it then aborts because it cannot > detect known device type. I think using /dev/sysmouse without moused running is the way to go. In general, moused should not be used. > The problem is when I enable hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" I don't even > get mouse moving in the console.. thus I think this may be related to > some problem with a psm driver..? If I remember correctly, mouse input in X is managed independently from mouse in console mode, so you should probably concentrate on X and the corresponding configuration file fragments that nowadays reside in the /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Okay, so the moused is the "old way".. > If I remember correctly, mouse input in X is managed independently > from mouse in console mode, so you should probably concentrate on > X and the corresponding configuration file fragments that nowadays > reside in the /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. Will try with these.. and play with libinput.. thanks :-) The worst thing is that one time it was working correctly.. no clue why ;-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 00:09:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E23143F6FD for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50C068B012 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Sat, 05 Jan 2019 00:09:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id A43279DA-EAF3-4A5A-82D1-9BF93E0F7DB6.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Sat, 05 Jan 2019 00:09:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 03:08:57 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith , reg@unrelenting.technology, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Message-Id: <1546646937.2475.3@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=yKcL3aQ7869OxZxzQMIOdwXTIM3zxFvaESdDUzjyUtc=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=eHMlSq4Q+pWcKARHZYLbHg0Bs5Cs2pV7cFKMe9MeyjFW0A1UJ8Hz/RgXpJ0mXdQqeuW/ux6mZwnrrj/ke44CqDW0paLFrRC+8Md+Uv+U8mignxDv96b5L6cSqWeQTpU8tCnVGon6YBlCGblU6FNu2rS1SIrYw4frF1kd4mP/syE= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 50C068B012 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=eHMlSq4Q; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: aspmx1.migadu.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.73)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-4.21), asn: 16276(0.45), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 00:09:12 -0000 On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 2:34 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 8:01 AM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> Do you not get this in Xorg.0.log ? >> >> [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of >> /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so >> failed (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") >> >> If not what did you do to prevent it ? > > Hello Steve! I hope Greg's hints helped you out - its just matter of > installing graphics/amdgpu and proper dri kernel driver - I am > building/using latest ones from port tree. > > Btw - most of the time AMDGPU does not produce the usable workstation > setup - loading amdgpu from boot.loader does not work (cannot load > firmware because / is not yet mounted) and loading it from rc.conf > makes my screen unusable - this is why I am using SCFB for X11 for now > and just play with AMDGPU from shell (also using SSH).. If you're booting with UEFI, you should set hw.syscons.disable=1 in loader.conf. (And of course load from rc.conf, modern kms-drm drivers have never been loadable from the bootloader.) https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/DEPRECATED-freebsd-base-graphics/issues/170 It's very usable, I'm running a Wayland compositor (Weston), with VAAPI and Vulkan and whatnot :) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 03:04:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5791485A64; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 03:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe44.google.com (mail-vs1-xe44.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1DC99282D; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 03:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe44.google.com with SMTP id z23so20544126vsj.11; 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AND THAT HELPED!! THANK YOU!! Now I have fully working AMDGPU desktop :-) :-) How can I make OpenCL operational? Where does the kernel error message comes from? :-) Device 0: Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 12.0-RELEASE, LLVM 6.0.1) OpenCL error (UNKNOWN OPENCL ERROR) in file (common-opencl.c) at line (1782) - (Source kernel not found!) ps/2: I have just bought new Dell U2515H monitor, beautiful picture, but it does not seem to support various standard resolutions, so it gets blank and requires its native resolution, not cool, I had to switch to old display, I really love that new hardwares ;-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 03:05:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6E1485A93 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 03:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: from mail.tridentusa.com (mail.tridentusa.com [96.225.19.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B174092879 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 03:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: (qmail 39192 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Jan 2019 03:04:48 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mail.tridentusa.com by smtprelay.tridentusa.com (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.100.2/25269. spamassassin: 3.4.2. 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(jjohnstone@tridentusa.com@172.16.0.90) by mail.tridentusa.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Jan 2019 22:04:48 -0500 Subject: Re: ZFS vs hardware RAID [freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 760, Issue 6] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00fa089b-d736-e535-6073-2fd48126121f@googlemail.com> <20190104155750.GA48956@neutralgood.org> <68188ee5-14f1-47a6-f4d8-fd049102f12c@googlemail.com> <20190104194832.13fcd66afc80d368d6bc496c@sohara.org> From: John Johnstone Message-ID: <0c6ecb00-4bea-2280-dd0c-e5540fa502ab@tridentusa.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:04:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190104194832.13fcd66afc80d368d6bc496c@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B174092879 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com designates 96.225.19.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.618,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tridentusa.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.84)[-0.840,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail1.tridentusa.com,mail.tridentusa.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.07)[-0.074,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.17)[asn: 701(-0.75), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:96.225.0.0/17, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 03:05:05 -0000 On 1/4/2019 2:48 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:14:06 +0000 > Dave B via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> Understood re what ZFS can do, much the same as high end hardware >> controllers with their own embedded software (BIOS) then. > > I have never seen a hardware raid with block checksums and > automatic repair of silent corruption. Maybe it happened but you never had the opportunity to know about it. Couldn't a controller have repaired it without you knowing about it? Generally speaking the functionality inside all hardware RAID controllers is proprietary. By specs and descriptions you can know a lot about them but much of it isn't easily understood. Corrections done by the controllers and disks can be inferred by retrieving the hardware statistics (smartmontools, vendor supplied utilities, LSI, HP, IBM etc) but it's not easily interpreted. Don't want to contribute to starting a long debate about ZFS vs hardware RAID but I think it should be pointed out that hardware RAID design, as in that implemented in a HBA, has had something typically called patrol read for quite a long time. The idea being that on an ongoing basis the RAID controller periodically on its own reads the disk to detect and correct problems via ECC and utilizes spare sectors. This isn't identical to the process that ZFS uses but it does offer a significant level of protection. The patrol read concept makes it less likely for any corruption to be undetected or "silent". I think it's useful to remember too that SAN level functionality grew out of RAID HBA designs. ZFS grew out of implementing SAN concepts in host-based software. In my opinion, if you look in detail at RAID in hardware, both HBA and SAN, and ZFS, there are a lot more similarities that most people recognize. I'm not saying ZFS doesn't have advantages but in a lot of cases they aren't looked at realistically. - John J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 07:24:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E291490933 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A27756E49A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1546673072; x=1549265072; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=uqH0FVwCMJX+lFS3EVH2SEkPYl9aTJIeZSidjtexwLs=; b=khNkTylr3Oz8Kqjuc7RadS/QCeDs7TZQXXz3dfxI3UNNt5tTJpm6QnqPGaCZUZQFkf0es5ZzgwOsr0xw2bznwJbWd/XxvxZxx/PeAnz1DsWB1UH1RlzmeLNn9iMvqpbtLDi2b0HtKseVupX/NObASdNRJvw8lAVknW734I/9ALA= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTEwMDAwMDNjYmYzNzQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [50.17.202.71]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 5 Jan 2019 02:24:21 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r1.east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 5 Jan 2019 02:24:20 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gfgJe-000MB5-Dq; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 07:24:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:24:18 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, reg@unrelenting.technology Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL Message-Id: <20190105072418.ef70c7db6c269feae41aa8fe@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A27756E49A X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=khNkTylr; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.09 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.866,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.58), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.28), asn: 7381(-0.23), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.981,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 07:24:33 -0000 On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:34:48 +0100 Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 8:01 AM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > Do you not get this in Xorg.0.log ? > > > > [ 45.939] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen > > of /usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so failed (Cannot open > > "/usr/local/lib/dri/amdgpu_dri.so") > > > > If not what did you do to prevent it ? > > Hello Steve! I hope Greg's hints helped you out - its just matter of Yes they did thank you, in the end deleting xorg.conf made it all happy which surprised me since it was all about displays and layout, xrandr gets the job done anyway so it was redundant. > installing graphics/amdgpu and proper dri kernel driver - I am > building/using latest ones from port tree. Yes I had to build drm-kmod and mesa-dri from ports to get everything working (the package lacks the radeonsi vpdau drivers). Well I say everything, I haven't tried openCL just openGL. > Btw - most of the time AMDGPU does not produce the usable workstation > setup - loading amdgpu from boot.loader does not work (cannot load > firmware because / is not yet mounted) and loading it from rc.conf > makes my screen unusable - this is why I am using SCFB for X11 for now > and just play with AMDGPU from shell (also using SSH).. Hmm all that works fine for me (AMD A9 laptop), as soon as amdgpu cuts in it starts mirroring to HDMI until X gets involved and separates the displays again. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 08:36:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C090149343E; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 08:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrnils@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x235.google.com (mail-lj1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04D6D70B8E; 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.65)[ip: (-9.61), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.88), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.11)[-0.110,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 08:36:18 -0000 On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 00:56 Tomasz CEDRO On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 12:39 AM Polytropon wrote: > > I think using /dev/sysmouse without moused running is the way to go. > > In general, moused should not be used. > > Okay, so the moused is the "old way".. > > > If I remember correctly, mouse input in X is managed independently > > from mouse in console mode, so you should probably concentrate on > > X and the corresponding configuration file fragments that nowadays > > reside in the /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. > > Will try with these.. and play with libinput.. thanks :-) > > The worst thing is that one time it was working correctly.. no clue why ;-) > > -- > > > Hello, On 12 there should be evdev support. It is however not in fort yet, so one needs a small patch to the port Makefile. Then you also need to add kern.evdev.rcpt_mask="12" to sysctl.conf You also need to compile libepoll-shim from ports to get the 20181229-version (was not available as a package last time I checked ). The above with he.psm.synaptics_support=1 and no moused (and hopefully no extra conf for xorg ) should get you trackpad support. Look at Xorg.0.log after doing the above and see how it detects and handles your trackpad. Best regards Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 11:23:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DB514980C1; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 11:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnikl@justmail.de) Received: from mout3.freenet.de (mout3.freenet.de [195.4.92.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.freenet.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 034BB76CCF; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 11:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnikl@justmail.de) Received: from [195.4.92.165] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gnikl@justmail.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gfk2h-0008CT-AD; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:23:03 +0100 Received: from [::1] (port=49222 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gnikl@justmail.de) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gfk2h-00069H-8a; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:23:03 +0100 Received: from sub6.freenet.de ([195.4.92.125]:36420) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gnikl@justmail.de) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gfk0d-0004hE-Bb; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:20:55 +0100 Received: from p5b3b306c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.59.48.108]:49903 helo=localhost) by sub6.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID gnikl@justmail.de) (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gfk0d-0004ys-7V; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:20:55 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 12:20:42 +0100 From: Gunther Nikl To: Greg V Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL Message-ID: <20190105122042.00004687@justmail.de> In-Reply-To: <1546646937.2475.3@smtp.migadu.com> References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> <1546646937.2475.3@smtp.migadu.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originated-At: 91.59.48.108!49903 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 034BB76CCF X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.94 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.89)[0.890,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[justmail.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[emig.freenet.de,emig.freenet.de,emig.freenet.de,emig.freenet.de]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.38)[0.385,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.12)[-0.122,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[93.92.4.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5430, ipnet:195.4.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[108.48.59.91.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 11:23:17 -0000 Greg V : > It's very usable, I'm running a Wayland compositor (Weston), with > VAAPI and Vulkan and whatnot :) Slightly OT, but can you describe what is required to get Wayland running? What additional software is required? Can I (still) use xterm, Opera 12, etc? I am interested in trying this stuff. However lacking the basics I could not convince myself to undertake this adventure. Currently I am on FreeBSD 11.2 (UEFI) using Xorg (1.20, patch for ports taken from pr196678) with the modesetting driver on a Haswell system. The laptop works with the base(!) drm without a glitch. The ports drm kmod works as well, no idea if its preferable. I am always loading the kms module manually... I would appreciate any useful advices! Regards, Gunther Nikl From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 12:35:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46ECA1499F96 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 12:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1588080BDE for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 12:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:35:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 33064106-DFE6-402F-B5EB-D8789F3D6C8F.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:35:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:35:21 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL To: Gunther Nikl Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1546691721.1768.0@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <20190105122042.00004687@justmail.de> References: <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> <1546646937.2475.3@smtp.migadu.com> <20190105122042.00004687@justmail.de> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=JC5FyCVmu7Imav6QOB2Xp9CYZam4AZlwi+fG1JGuBGo=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=GhqXxJt9oSlAAmB6eh5pvUvLfRv7hp1cllTvAr32eqWh9JAatjAhvcD4O2bh88St89KhA/e+VjC10H/7Ya3pvvVlJxiuyzxziUWnBy8qwKWSCB7/MM03fBuyCdRwJklqjZ2JPQ4S1BTwtjGUfgGj5oU4SZ7Wp8VfR8Xs0v7FIrU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1588080BDE X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=GhqXxJt9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: aspmx1.migadu.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.943,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.74)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-4.26), asn: 16276(0.45), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:35:24 -0000 On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 2:20 PM, Gunther Nikl wrote: > Greg V : >> It's very usable, I'm running a Wayland compositor (Weston), with >> VAAPI and Vulkan and whatnot :) >=20 > Slightly OT, but can you describe what is required to get Wayland > running? What additional software is required? Can I (still) use=20 > xterm, > Opera 12, etc? Yes, you can run any X apps, Xwayland makes that work > I am interested in trying this stuff. However lacking the basics I > could not convince myself to undertake this adventure. Currently I am > on FreeBSD 11.2 (UEFI) using Xorg (1.20, patch for ports taken from > pr196678) with the modesetting driver on a Haswell system. The laptop > works with the base(!) drm without a glitch. The ports drm kmod works > as well, no idea if its preferable. I am always loading the kms module > manually... Yes, of course it's preferable, the base port is really old and=20 abandoned. Back in 2015 base was all we had, it didn't even support Haswell, I=20 bought my X240 right around when Haswell support was added=85 :D And now we don't lag behind Linux all that much, and there's AMD in=20 additon to Intel=85 So, if you want Wayland, - most importantly, you need a kernel built with the EVDEV_SUPPORT=20 option, otherwise you won't get any input devices - (btw you can use evdev+libinput in Xorg too) - EVDEV_SUPPORT has been enabled by default in CURRENT and 12-STABLE,=20 so 12.1 will be the first release to get evdev out of the box I think - set sysctl kern.evdev.rcpt_mask=3D12 to get events from individual=20 keyboards/mice instead of the multiplexer =97 important for touchpads - also it's very nice to have a kernel with=20 https://reviews.freebsd.org/rS342768 (just landed in CURRENT, will be=20 merged into 12-STABLE after a week) =97 otherwise unresponsive=20 applications can make the whole desktop unresponsive (kinda like in the=20 good old Mac OS 9.x days :D) =97 but it was surprisingly rare, I lived=20 with that bug for over a year - for now, you need access permissions on /dev/input* devices =97 I've=20 been working on fixing that, there are patches (on differential for the=20 kernel, on github for libudev-devd) but you can just chmod g+rw=20 /dev/input/* and ignore security lol - you need mesa, the UI toolkits, etc. built with wayland support =97=20 thankfully, it's on by default in ports now, so it should all be in the=20 official packages already :) - well, you need a compositor: - there's Sway https://github.com/swaywm/sway which has FreeBSD=20 support and it's already in a sort of user friendly state (for advanced=20 users :D) - there's my development fork of Weston=20 https://github.com/myfreeweb/weston + it needs to be launched with=20 https://github.com/myfreeweb/loginw =97 this is in development, not=20 really documented - KDE Plasma5 kwin_wayland =97 won't run directly on the desktop=20 right now I think, only in a window. I'll need to investigate=20 ConsoleKit2=85 = From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 15:39:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BE2149EC1C for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 15:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 328B487708 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 15:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x05FdJn2043310 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 16:39:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> <8a1d9b31-8dc7-753c-8d37-1eed2d0bd06a@FreeBSD.org> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <0e403960-36a4-b8f7-49f8-ff52a444aab8@netfence.it> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 16:39:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 328B487708 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.35)[ip: (0.88), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(0.44), asn: 30722(0.35), country: IT(0.07)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.88)[0.884,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.82)[0.824,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.netfence.it]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.987,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:39:31 -0000 On 1/4/19 11:35 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Now, we don't have, say, something that pops up in the installer that > says "I see you're installing version 12.0, but 12.3 is now available" Not that explicitly, but it used to be possible to choose a different version in the options page. I once used it, altough that's definitely an unusual way of installing. Maybe this option it's gone in later versions, I didn't check. In any case, available versions were only RELEASEs, as explained elsewhere in this thread. bye av. 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MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[outlook.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[outlook.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:58:51 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 21:23:22 +0100, Polytropon stated: >In my opinion, providing RELEASE-pX images (patched versions) >could be a nice addition to the offerings FreeBSD already has. >I think you will agree that STABLE "snapshots" probably aren't >that interesting, while BETA, ALPHA, and RCs might be useful >for testers. > >Given an Internet connection is activated upon system installation >time, a non-intrusive dialog could be presented like this: > > You are about to install FreeBSD 12.0. > Currently there are patched versions > available which you can install. Please > select the version you want: > > [ ] FreeBSD 12.0 of 2018-12-12 > [ ] FreeBSD 12.0 p1 of 2019-01-23 > [ ] FreeBSD 12,0 p2 of 2019-02-34 > >Sorry for the nonsense dates. :-) > >This is especially handy for installation via "bootonly" media >where no actual data to be installed is present. This is essentially exactly what I am looking for. I find the argument that creating "point" releases would be too time consuming to be an invalid argument. In reality, this option would only be valid for "boot-only" discs anyway. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 23:40:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3C61427643; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 23:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AD6073300; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 23:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MA7Om-1gZvHF1mh8-00BcHG; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 00:40:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 00:40:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: Greg V , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 Message-Id: <20190106004001.2712d2c3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> <1546642600.2475.2@smtp.migadu.com> <20190105003925.6862d526.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:zrfarz44Q35zR43AMbE+xOGGOyBX4nqy/0tMiShzxMxVDZZMRrO vTDPKHAMHcpfJgYN2RQYDCizdj7an2EcIOw+l1NY1QtHb0+pUCd7/2uiAXlJRlkkYgl1YWn WSkIeZpfqKBmYYA1I/+/p1VUVS5yLSM8E5MOLh0tFCpJJJ2HEjon7yMN3YTovDtj14jCGGK Yp9kmFSddyS29qSusOgiQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:fQTv4IL52mI=:s09ZVJVyVQSHfYmzZ7rq1V /mm3qTEMDWm8SClpsBeWMSnO1i9oO2sb5Tg/j7Jz/QwpsYpZ5e3RubnBr+sOIld4VQoKgCHy+ fv1R27+3Y3j3zquchmxvl4dDhzTJbtH+9ZT4j3o55aDPAdApZ6KcFgpfrXmmuuuz+j3bM1rdq v4hzZroyo4952GyeogYntAhBjDBw+5l0KjNvH+QyL5HbIcFyUrqQo2pMBYW6iCTBLZ1enu0Ho hzpcF4V8gtBBEi7BbNgz4xbz6Rj6a1s/Ri4a+Pb+sD3KOgt+FKxR9Gl58/HdqokJ6rizJVjup CJAEC/bbLBGwBjfQBlekDxl1etkJ8NtRAoJ2asedqRoKAdPZrfr+8lkP5DgdoBZVvYSza1qAH wEV/hXL9OuiUCLGEK++LGQN0i4nMBeZgdOuzhmDfa8bajMxV4yjPVu7SP6cWZn6bBLrvwKHrk jeeC7Wpq9PtoqYkXmxKe1Wq5ObL63RHk/J3yS0KuY/XVCSap4iW5fTw7IxL+1oHROHoOugGwq 6NS4vFVhZkgLHd60YF56HBqkIbpnIIN534YNEGzWrotnaVr6AuzH+egmSLeKOl2BqsaC/gDdA ewO+SLOb0D/51i1Krvqy18/CMIBP+uOV7g2m1cBru5X5hV1Or5iQxQn6UvoJR3WZ0v1rMq9+4 M/k7NdQ0YT3OfofZSMy10jfHDjYgGgX8IYZ9mvh2Pkb6N5nshzgBFQIzt4PIb4K7tOwzlVm1H TkVgplGhRxqTs30RTQubZSw9Swc9Iv8BTEk9evRmTjsZWiUpaLUJiC+P708= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8AD6073300 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.16 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.89)[0.888,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.79)[0.794,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.983,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.11)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.47), asn: 8560(1.02), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 23:40:18 -0000 On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 00:52:11 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 12:39 AM Polytropon wrote: > > I think using /dev/sysmouse without moused running is the way to go. > > In general, moused should not be used. > > Okay, so the moused is the "old way".. Correct. It is only needed for getting the mouse work in the console. With vt having replaced sc as the console driver, the console functionality has seen several facettes of decay, which is sad, but seems to be required to keep X happy. Still there is one thing I seem to remember from the thread: At some point, you said that you've obtained debugging data from the psm driver directly (not via "moused -d"), and with the hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" setting in /boot/loader.conf, you did not get any reaction from that channel. This is strange. Even though X input does not need moused support, is surely needs psm support (via the "sysmouse" hook). I'm not sure this looks entirely correct - but I don't have (and don't like to use) touchpads, so I cannot provide any further ideas. It's just my gut feeling, resulting in memories of low-level programming done decades ago, that you should at least get _some_ kind of reaction from the psm driver whenever an event happens on the touchpad. > > If I remember correctly, mouse input in X is managed independently > > from mouse in console mode, so you should probably concentrate on > > X and the corresponding configuration file fragments that nowadays > > reside in the /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. > > Will try with these.. and play with libinput.. thanks :-) Make sure you have xf86-input-synaptics and libsynaptics installed. X should then detect the corresponding device automatically and load the appropriate drivers and subsystems. > The worst thing is that one time it was working correctly.. no clue why ;-) Maybe it was on an older FreeBSD version? Decay... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 23:52:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D655D142919A; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 23:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa42.google.com (mail-vk1-xa42.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 618C674545; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 23:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk1-xa42.google.com with SMTP id v70so8694460vkv.7; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:52:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=gtYTxdfFMg8mlpK3qNI/ZMLNqgOW3jT719ZOw8wNqMw=; b=Mo3zw2W/4VhPur95Ol8CMjmI9TTgPGyzmPZzc0Lul2uy6VLT5iOM5Oh2Or0lpELu8s EV6+W3RHr3hZdfBNQ94eQZsDWQPpQp1vGkwUyJHmFfOGxCjZoXu2SEws04o6fzOez5sB 5PhEB2bBOPyjT45C09iGS1V4ZHr2Lu1ADQNi5tSAXXgQCX0/ET+6a8QwGlQiuFUQITtE bwlMfxmxfL/FDZXD+wSuzdKEpaudOtUMrQTfjgj1g0EyRXbzmGg/XkK3shhDgq7wPnc4 ljD65kVLw8qnNojeO2zyvZA1+S8gyZcwdIFuLAisUHDDXoGcV7JE0lAzB8AHNqvtilUe 65qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gtYTxdfFMg8mlpK3qNI/ZMLNqgOW3jT719ZOw8wNqMw=; b=qMgYx/PCRNCE3m+hDacSClVzeWEfX31Srs6FV+f9HvwArXmvT8cSdSzDH+JJyrtm7x zV5VNyusdND9b3dqIdHeYnjNkx3fae4r9yV2BwNknlGFJnJZt/S/lyzuac3yLoZx3ZwG SdNvtY5HZREn7x5yJwA+LWPXH6DvvZ43q31LJxouvmEmGgzrhtPTEKAWTYH/HLSr87zk a52MBLRjfzOirrZwdj45TYk6zr0yWHPeRf7Ht/mIRzIsNil3VVk4mxNYN8DKn7E/vv7a WkNb2WkwaH/L18DzBulziJ2rq2v7HBe4g2xu+BPouq4GDYqL90yTTVQlEUT2hqS58Nk7 rBug== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfCh8KgO+zsPQi35x8EqpKj4ujPsyfMY7+nYXopI2BtpsBQ+/EC /jNLLjvl6pgc/KNTJ56utuVBU4jHspE9C9mFsoEhPh8V X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7dnCoDKS17+0sEAfsCzVw5+d5qiuiXcQh/KbMADFFERR+0vWMVwUSJ3opbCd/r9QnctHpA/BFReJZ7FpkT64g= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:a8c5:: with SMTP id r188mr20456419vke.44.1546732361559; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:52:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> <1546642600.2475.2@smtp.migadu.com> <20190105003925.6862d526.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190106004001.2712d2c3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190106004001.2712d2c3.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 00:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Polytropon Cc: Greg V , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 618C674545 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=Mo3zw2W/; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::a42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.22)[0.219,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.a.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.49)[ip: (1.47), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.20), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 23:52:44 -0000 On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 12:40 AM Polytropon wrote: > Correct. It is only needed for getting the mouse work in the > console. With vt having replaced sc as the console driver, > the console functionality has seen several facettes of decay, > which is sad, but seems to be required to keep X happy. The reason I still want moused is that I often work in a simple shell with no X and there mouse comes really handy to copy-paste some stuff.. I usually startX by hand when I need it :-) > Still there is one thing I seem to remember from the thread: > At some point, you said that you've obtained debugging data > from the psm driver directly (not via "moused -d"), and with > the hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" setting in /boot/loader.conf, > you did not get any reaction from that channel. This is strange. > Even though X input does not need moused support, is surely > needs psm support (via the "sysmouse" hook). I'm not sure > this looks entirely correct - but I don't have (and don't like > to use) touchpads, so I cannot provide any further ideas. > It's just my gut feeling, resulting in memories of low-level > programming done decades ago, that you should at least get > _some_ kind of reaction from the psm driver whenever an event > happens on the touchpad. Yes exactly this is why I am asking here, because I think there is something wrong with PSM or my TouchPad! On different devices / computers / trackpads everything works fine with a simple psm+moused configuration - I have two finger scroll reported by a device, passed as additional data by psm to moused thanks to hw.psm.synaptics_enable="1".. even with USB attached devices.. > Make sure you have xf86-input-synaptics and libsynaptics installed. > X should then detect the corresponding device automatically and > load the appropriate drivers and subsystems. This also does not work - cursor does not move.. and the driver cannot detect synaptics device correctly.. > > The worst thing is that one time it was working correctly.. no clue why ;-) > Maybe it was on an older FreeBSD version? Decay... ;-) Eventually we will figure that out and make a fix :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info