From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mon Aug 5 08:25:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDADBD743 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from borjam@sarenet.es) Received: from cu01176b.smtpx.saremail.com (cu01176b.smtpx.saremail.com [195.16.151.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4629nq36tYz4NMf for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from borjam@sarenet.es) Received: from [172.16.8.147] (unknown [192.148.167.11]) by proxypop01.sare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4F2EF9DDCC7; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 10:25:47 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: Old Stuff From: Borja Marcos In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 10:25:45 +0200 Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Robert Simmons X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4629nq36tYz4NMf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sarenet.es; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of borjam@sarenet.es designates 195.16.151.151 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=borjam@sarenet.es X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.16.151.0/24]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[151.151.16.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sarenet.es,none]; IP_SCORE(-2.63)[ip: (-7.13), ipnet: 195.16.128.0/19(-3.46), asn: 3262(-2.60), country: ES(0.04)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3262, ipnet:195.16.128.0/19, country:ES]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 08:25:52 -0000 > On 24 Jul 2019, at 18:57, Robert Simmons wrote: >=20 > I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and = remove all > of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and = safer. Keeping 32 and 64 bit code has an interesting side effect. It kinda = forces to keep some discipline, same as keeping big endian and little endian code. It can be a bit of a pain in = the ass but it forces you to be more careful. > In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet and = ftp. I don=E2=80=99t understand why. Both tools can be useful in certain = situations. For instance telnet is the most immediate way to check wether a service is working and a bunch of = important Internet protocols were actually designed so that they could be tested with a simple = telnet.=20 =46rom a different point of view, ssh can be more prone to buffer = overflows due to more complex code ;) Borja.