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From owner-freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Sat Nov 14 16:58:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7072F2EEC1D for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timofey2009zak@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oo1-xc32.google.com (mail-oo1-xc32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CYM4C5D5Qz3Pcj for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timofey2009zak@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oo1-xc32.google.com with SMTP id r11so2899622oos.12 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1E74iE1EcbgOGRpx0syZaXtkgOqCnov9nJbxhDTnsyA=; b=Iq6Ox5u6ivrA8LMOQESCOzE+y5EcXCahPu7vklcGwDdbsPeuWMTys4ZcKUs8Rg8HfC EQByWDoStnND6DFFl+qk6BPQ3HxIa692ikc7mPxzWkU4c/2xv6gKZ1UVOWNGBxchs0/P cLwVO5s2CX+dni6Qecs9LLL4+PctqENcd8mtU8DCFkqvgHc3R1jJ2QeI0P6C0yZLR3q7 5cftlTTGpMnUlu00da5bqNSwIfG1FVvwga59vh9QulhdvTRxT8AyLR9Z336TPRpT00FM ZVR13cuSBD3IU2F1daFZFZUdtOofuZqfkG7aHS/yOaL5F/1FFVwHi6fUflbQYoMAF9nm 64gA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1E74iE1EcbgOGRpx0syZaXtkgOqCnov9nJbxhDTnsyA=; b=TEK8B5p7IJi/6nPUWd4zY3XGMgXl18GqMgBcj3emSxK+iQYMBqBfTT7PdJadTlgU+z aU1AkKzef+3Gf0vwAb/5wHHu7CL+0B/Tyz0BB5Nkq1dzuCHIjekVYH1Xy59cCy2RZ5OR DXCYl45bw+eXISaUDVW1dBurv2OHUDl/4IbwfREpRDik4d6eU1+YN7Q9KH5lTnByyFe1 UM/maaGQLKs1ohwOXkwwTqoyHAmwVL1CJiy7A0Hq862xCeHscLDOhi+ew5b2Niq9Myng iNF/T24ogyHp4XXSE+D8I76xr5f6Jo2WuBm0p5u89eDKO/CLFT0k9LpOIWLhr/DlCqdS 4Xrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532h8oLAUG1jSjt8RknJWcGYyUsnVqSM4OnIPnC/2oGNU/Q1h2vI WjOdb3/FRLU9eMvSAPQ+nO/i7frKvonAyBujm5w5Peaqz/A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxdl/U729127iptFx0YjLf5Umq58cZVxDOP1nttIj1L2iyP/oCm9RXrl1RQdkvAQyGLzQ0LC90VnMqUUeFBmQY= X-Received: by 2002:a4a:cb92:: with SMTP id y18mr5493469ooq.16.1605373128890; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 08:58:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: mark zaharov Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:58:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Thinkpad power management To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CYM4C5D5Qz3Pcj X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Iq6Ox5u6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of timofey2009zak@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::c32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=timofey2009zak@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.06 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.06)[-0.058]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::c32:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::c32:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::c32:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-acpi] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:52 -0000 Hello everyone. I'm trying to configure freebsd on my thinkpad t460 laptop to make it quieter and colder as possible. I increase c-states to max (freebsd print it's c3) and add powedxx service and some else options according to Vermaden's article. But even after all this manipulations linux with tlp still colder and much more quieter on same task and similar workflow. What do I do wrong? Is it possible to make freebsd performance on laptol similar to linux? Thanks From owner-freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Sat Nov 14 17:29:57 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52462EF8E3 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason@corrupted.io) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CYMm44gRWz3hFx for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason@corrupted.io) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8982C5C00B9 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap9 ([10.202.2.59]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:29:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=corrupted.io; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=fm1; bh=P6VQx4W7tuVaVu2ppko0iJNP0T13xHi URWvqwrIwtoE=; b=F4I3CDSXpE0KBzSTBoHdFHNa/kM0aguwGuqepBuwiswkn+L DliAhEYtz9yyar00Td5WS8BVQALVbbxTZvx5mdpXf3K3udHu01euQf2s4DHqmZDf J7Eu/jXn7zRTr+822p7yPu3xUHTDfoOiImWvlZnas5GRB4xM+GZnRrjT0VUfYYmc 2bbxkp7cEBRQsrhUI0a+Xc1M/P5P4tjzZwvC0yW+sfPd301/FP74zxL5Hw3dGV7T JgCYNCuQgbBOO2r6IMcbjYXpLNBeoSYV+pIUjzWBPR+bfppzNlNb+UwjRcfdPp1U ts1jy+O6pZWfPsVR0wab1C46CFyL4TK7jFlT/Vw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=P6VQx4 W7tuVaVu2ppko0iJNP0T13xHiURWvqwrIwtoE=; b=AYO86SVpT+Cpb2lfj7MiQr GdyLWuaQVDxiOCKk87uvEm+Cdrf4OEoXV3vCgHnG6iOLd+62V7u4YIbbdDJLYzBt zDrkBjVZEGRwv+t0a2sLnhABvJEpfO97POqpFRbQUQRTAtEYGzTNY3DeJiREg28i 4cHE0z6PIYzJz8F8plmO+D4gS01EejYb63ZK5bH19fGrriiuVEV48hr0RdToFDdx SNf8QHloDR/CDPHiK0+wFrwUeZSLVAOLZw6NM7x2L54iVwdkvCjsyfvZWXSogVTm WPUaIg4/l9TPMnzf2SHcs+8aGeVtzKsXYKzsC6ISs2yTqON2o1IDJKIoZkTmvGaw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedruddvjedguddtvdcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesth dtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdflrghsohhnuceurghrsghivghrfdcuoehjrghsohhn segtohhrrhhuphhtvggurdhioheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepveduudfgieeiudfgvd duudeihffgffehveejveelvdehvdeiffdvfeeitefhheeinecuffhomhgrihhnpehfrhgv vggsshgurdhorhhgpdhkvgihsggrshgvrdhiohenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtne curfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjrghsohhnsegtohhrrhhuphhtvggurdhioh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 317D01C0379; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:29:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-570-gba0a262-fm-20201106.001-gba0a2623 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <182241e9-27f8-41e3-8233-fe9dec52de78@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:29:34 -0800 From: "Jason Barbier" To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad power management Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CYMm44gRWz3hFx X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=corrupted.io header.s=fm1 header.b=F4I3CDSX; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=AYO86SVp; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=corrupted.io; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jason@corrupted.io designates 66.111.4.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jason@corrupted.io X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.09 / 15.00]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[66.111.4.27:from]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.27]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[corrupted.io:+,messagingengine.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[corrupted.io,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[66.111.4.27:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.111.4.27:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[corrupted.io:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jason]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.111.4.27:from:127.0.2.255]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-acpi]; MID_RHS_WWW(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:29:57 -0000 > Hello everyone. I'm trying to configure freebsd on my thinkpad t460 laptop > to make it quieter and colder as possible. I increase c-states to max > (freebsd print it's c3) and add powedxx service and some else options > according to Vermaden's article. But even after all this manipulations > linux with tlp still colder and much more quieter on same task and similar > workflow. > What do I do wrong? Is it possible to make freebsd performance on laptol > similar to linux? > > Thanks If you are using 12 or newer on a Core I cpu chances are you are using the pstate driver. with the pstate driver the processor manages the cpu scaling and limits, which is how linux does it. PowerD and PowerD++ don't understand pstates and are not useful here. If you want to manually control it you need to follow the instructions under CPU at https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption --- Jason Barbier | E: jason@corrupted.io GPG: FD7D2D5F0A0FBE39 (https://keybase.io/kusuriya)