From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Aug 30 06:36:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F4E3CCB63; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BfNrl1rhZz4fBV; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1kCGwc-000PXJ-Eb; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:36:02 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:36:02 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: APM BIOS set to go in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20200830063602.GT3539@home.opsec.eu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BfNrl1rhZz4fBV X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12502, ipnet:2001:14f8::/32, country:DE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:36:07 -0000 Hi! > APM BIOS support will likely be removed from FreeBSD for FreeBSD 13. This > was once quite important for LAPTOP users. However, it is now no longer > relevant. It stopped being supported around the time that ACPI started to > be released for laptops. This was around the Pentium 200MHz laptop > generation, give or take. ACPI was released in 1996 to replace APM, and had > largely done so by 2000. As such, this is 20-year obsolete technology. I think I still use it to this day for all my laptops to check the battery status and put the laptop to sleep. The commands I use are apm and zzz, and they still work. What would be replacement commands ? > To that end, I'm looking for actual users of this APM that have used the > technology successfully in FreeBSD 12.0 or newer. I can experiment and even can provide you remote access to laptops of that kind. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ?