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Sat, 11 Jan 2020 22:06:04 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: d@delphij.net Subject: Re: open-vm-tools in base To: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <202001102021.00AKLxjW001994@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> From: Xin Li Autocrypt: addr=delphij@delphij.net; keydata= mQINBFuSR4oBEACvvEgwRIHs6IcSP/yaDtySF78Ji3rP29qdiQsxhMsOtvtffdbS56VApIWO UFb3/iN2gA8HwLvrmjijN0HEoLVX7na1WARmxRYzQMtApsZIUTtx7hnUYlsi2F5odZa6CDW9 a954DLRzYxiUwYDcu5Zjl9bglK1H8e/N9uC0Vuigr4teWfh86brzOyf819QzwFVYfMIK4ihw QGwMvTzbyVuCFy+LENkmcVYni70oQy6rZ5ktSuYbuOFvu7inRRfhSWPHziV7k+bW88sJ7xhv lBlegcnhkSudWX2M8tZ3MO1PJOcyys0CJlsBY5Weiog2lIPi05h/E9pZ9mc1Vud17iqDaL6w RaggOUhuPfDGCdO5ro82W4BZGeQMRnRF5Ntk+t2ShIH4nn3xRLV0E5nziCiKlgiMqOrz/ZTL QTVbHrCuiwD+fSK14y0oHbkOLYTYLlgh1JbwfY2Ty7elOYiWzyeJ7sJh2dF91NSEneWIOys3 mBpuvtU3nSzzTvAB48VV+Nbg1CpIOgNlPjj7uhIum/Z/VjUaJEyaLpTIRh0MVJVcbP7hXSqZ NA35EEZZVnWEOYdycm4CmEdeNPWkrAf2Ya77iR5VLGypwMlsUMQPh+sKVWDD38M8stFGBBNm d01Hi74Bsq5hKan654dOqMt5eYklrVj0ucMzFQtus7oE502UswARAQABtBxYaW4gTEkgPGRl bHBoaWpAZGVscGhpai5uZXQ+iQJUBBMBCgA+FiEEceNg5NEMZIki80nQQHl/fJX0g08FAluS R/YCGwMFCQmuhAAFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFgIDAQACHgECF4AACgkQQHl/fJX0g0+2Og//bWpE F2V5/M5l6YW1T8oLcT9rIOH6oq9M0LMNRgFeiNNnilGIeeIgtOGBRueG4CZiZAvsRPJkrO70 1R2SrdkCIvwGUzUAxx1NfBWb+vgm4fgkW/MotGonceM5v0qfSKKXasWvDctkK28aG+IoQzmi FjXNW4+ju4zeQFYwD4ZDWqw9MqO0hVb24uW3dxtQhbfmOLgJ/PEDMQaFuANbW1c+iR0BQA3D Go/EeMY4kpN8on6Aqt/S/4JVltudfQ9OXdjQsC7netSaB9K3mHGt9aKAAB7RzlRY00DKkYS/ /eQwLzGPmK7yX13M68mMDjBs6mIR8t/E1S5OdBNhHRPNPlEbwugR4KaiCsN5yqzJoSV99fKY z2VyxjWPaG8yhHE+jmKUgIBKTfFUQEfkriQR4EASoeJ+soaMTiFDBij1Zw5n3ndLRFMB1ZCl fZLER36mAgW4m4kP83TWnDiJLxOxSOxifV8HpTFjff902H85cybg9KMwrfPDr6W19GGk5Vo1 fkza5krRMGbKWb7+74Evusi0ZxJLIOFwp5Y8eVqUMZaAD3f1ZX1M3pgXOp20QgAy+2KvMHij rLa4q+tMGRzYYD1BnFVSVdXAX5VOoTmHBcDz67DkuRwk2Byp1sgd407oEOmSwrNJlKS0TPCm xUJ2fdSQF+1/MMSRfee49vtMvz7cOrC5Ag0EW5JHigEQANiBmIFAfRNH3nzYNWC0yC+tfx3z sUwAsH1VaBM/cTib+yKtbBOSIlXWjJZWX3MHwoI/1LeGghB2mxkkX1L0pJ/vj1eXNR+sFZ32 0pYcl61Fxg/5fioG4QDTM4i3i7NR5PxDnc6UVaynSlII93DedRhZ1ROtdn4vyMgzsDiqhbL7 BthDOt5KxjqdRk4qRPSw7BovEqZLOcG5IJtf/zZUzRbM7SBljEbOAfekDGx1Br+RrYSD7/Ef Pwwzou9T8315IpBpIHyQF/dZNk3iFiB9Ed5CA71ZRYV5YoLWE9lL0j9kxOLQ5vHnX3mVq7QZ Bc7nzwZ6UhQgYmrG5+RWvuiPpGwvDRIsugJUGXucYkAQh5kuNblmkwpv6u9rNMjCNbzAylOa qdogra5EW+RUSbRz0b4iIr8nnZeAlh7BihCe7JjOwbDjoBEEEtSfVc4hD/LENqpcYVrChphf aOLB9YIXhnVDTVvMc9OklWT/81HzAaDQqOQCzEfY92199Ct9/CwRoQ2OpO8TO5+8A7b9Nb33 nmxMn09mb48ruRacMrfHxCWbgU4w9SEfbip4GcS5wGG6yTC+hw55Iwnnwus40NrJ0GEr8a4r cdsLbkvlyoNHB8ZGgyJ4aFCQ1V4qE1BnlTk7Z8BYBUkJM1odPSkVvHpCnMUjVpJ3hEOC+73Z YH1dh7lZABEBAAGJAjwEGAEKACYWIQRx42Dk0QxkiSLzSdBAeX98lfSDTwUCW5JHigIbDAUJ Ca6EAAAKCRBAeX98lfSDTz8DEACMh3poeUb+gWNF4RWFZuLteZVo0+E1JLYXQkmtrRBLXviP +Qy0pXyFAVxLM4hNIBoIDYfK9BcwrBYf7AwSKrH0GiNwFpgHCkbZd6qoZy2gB+adTnCpVCTJ KJetsH/8awkrChJWMK0ckGf3EeWMPvawG7kW7FBz70NYEZ0pOMiaEZNVtzD3wwbYWUiDFYth 83XGglOExg+1ShTW5XjQPRrdyJAO+aUW4o3lVjfyUJXMgI4rmhMiLVm06GuNrbpKIF0s+4Vd jQAjhrDQjfoXi9CkfsA/cONseuHNv1JGj3RqHiqHJq1dbrpodXp925zGDAnUGxCOBPoFopAH gVzR89GTut059GpwqsddZmU6y7rqifuam/ekJ+QRwc16vgt7pHqCrTY8WPxRZr2UpFU1wlTo COdeiFep1gq1F9jzFjJnoMaAdmC6k7bgAA+RQusOgIhJL0jIej7DoAHxmxFFCfRy+lDtpXwF gQ8HMvzHI65QWmQnMo7s6SQH/ZH5s1yR6SJq8+3lDz+dCuT42qJVqIPVvxd10LW0FNN+t7HF eLadU6ekSgD13/EYMYXlvNHkw7dAItSDxIzgRyykLz0bCU9xwNWoS4Z43+ifF9anJ+uR0ltW El1j++h6ZrD3LLuCgJIt1so0m49GzdcSpOI7LCwMlacyvafiEyjUn+tSNDsnfw== Organization: The FreeBSD Project Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 22:05:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; 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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 06:06:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Zm4GutCI1Urslcpobs5YeavuxV3iruIzO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="RY95IIogBW3ZfU44cOPibVZxmToci31Pj"; protected-headers="v1" From: Xin Li Reply-To: d@delphij.net To: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: open-vm-tools in base References: <202001102021.00AKLxjW001994@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: --RY95IIogBW3ZfU44cOPibVZxmToci31Pj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (picking one email for reply) On 1/10/20 12:56 PM, Josh Paetzel wrote: >> And for pespective I run a lot of ESXi and FreeBSD guests... so any >> bias I might have is in the wrong direction :-) >>=20 >=20 > ...things would be a lot more convenient for people who run > virtualized FreeBSD instances. This would Just Work (TM) and who > doesn't love changes that move us closer to a "Just Works out of the > box" state? I think the main concern is that it would be harder to deliver a fix or update the code with FreeBSD Security Update procedure. Fortunately (but I might be biased as I only looked at the svn history of open-vm-tools port), the code doesn't really change that often. This is not unprecedented, by the way, we are already shipping HyperV utilities. It's probably worth exploring if it's possible to import a stripped down version of the port that do not really change over time but needs to integrate with the ABI/KBI tightly, though. 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