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Is it possible to create a poudriere jail using FreeBSD-base packages?
I am thinking about a scenario where I build kernel/world and base
packages on the host, then create a poudriere jail to build packages on
the exact same kernel/world that was build on the host.
This is of course to help mitigate the issue with building
drm-fbsd12.0-kmod in poudriere that has to be build with the EXACT same
sources and kernel configuration as the kernel/world.
GrzegorzJ
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On 06/04/20 11:24, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
> Is it possible to create a poudriere jail using FreeBSD-base packages?
>
> I am thinking about a scenario where I build kernel/world and base
> packages on the host, then create a poudriere jail to build packages on
> the exact same kernel/world that was build on the host.
I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up; make
buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere machine. I
the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
After that I perform:
poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in /usr/src.
So I get packages for that exact head revision.
Hope this answers your question.
BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision from
the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then revert the
change.
--
Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
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On 06/04/2020 09:42, Guido Falsi wrote:
> On 06/04/20 11:24, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>> Is it possible to create a poudriere jail using FreeBSD-base packages?
>>
>> I am thinking about a scenario where I build kernel/world and base
>> packages on the host, then create a poudriere jail to build packages on
>> the exact same kernel/world that was build on the host.
> I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up; make
> buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere machine. I
> the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
>
> After that I perform:
>
> poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
>
> where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in /usr/src.
>
> So I get packages for that exact head revision.
>
> Hope this answers your question.
>
> BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision from
> the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
> poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then revert the
> change.
>
Thanks, that's interesting. So, poudriere will build the jail from
sources from that specific revision?
But I think it still won't solve the problem where the base packages
have been build with modified kernel configuration. Can you supply a
custom kernel configuration in your method?
If you have already build the kernel and world on the host, why not use
poudriere jail -c -j 12-1 -v 12.1 -m src=/usr/src
GrzegorzJ
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Is it possible/feasible to also include the kernel configuration name
when creating the repository with "make packages"?
I am thinking about a scenario where I have multiple kernel
configuration (e.g. for testing) and would like to install kernel/world
from a specific configuration.
Something like /usr/obj/usr/src/repo/FreeBSD:12:amd64:generic/ or
/usr/obj/usr/src/repo/FreeBSD:12:amd64/generic/
That's assuming that the world might differ when a different kernel
configuration is used, not sure if that's true, I think it's true with
regards to some package, e.g. drm-fbsd12.0-kmod.
GrzegorzJ
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On 06/04/20 11:56, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>
> On 06/04/2020 09:42, Guido Falsi wrote:
>> On 06/04/20 11:24, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>>> Is it possible to create a poudriere jail using FreeBSD-base packages?
>>>
>>> I am thinking about a scenario where I build kernel/world and base
>>> packages on the host, then create a poudriere jail to build packages on
>>> the exact same kernel/world that was build on the host.
>> I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up; make
>> buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere machine. I
>> the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
>>
>> After that I perform:
>>
>> poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
>>
>> where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in /usr/src.
>>
>> So I get packages for that exact head revision.
>>
>> Hope this answers your question.
>>
>> BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision from
>> the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
>> poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then revert the
>> change.
>>
>
> Thanks, that's interesting. So, poudriere will build the jail from
> sources from that specific revision?
Yes, since it will "svn up -r <rev>" it's source tree for that jail.
It will also invalidate and remove all packages if __FreeBSD_version has
changed.
>
> But I think it still won't solve the problem where the base packages
> have been build with modified kernel configuration. Can you supply a
> custom kernel configuration in your method?
No I can't, but really a modified kernel configuration should not impact
on ports, do you have a specific scenario?
At most ports interact with kernel sources, whatever the configuration.
>
> If you have already build the kernel and world on the host, why not use
>
> poudriere jail -c -j 12-1 -v 12.1 -m src=/usr/src
That's an option but I prefer to keep them separated, also because you
will anyway need an updated source tree inside the jail.
But I'm using head, so the scenario is a little different.
For releases I use binary installation and binary updates.
Poudriere will automatically invalidate packages if the release has changed.
--
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>>> I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up; make
>>> buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere machine. I
>>> the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
>>>
>>> After that I perform:
>>>
>>> poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
>>>
>>> where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in /usr/src.
>>>
>>> So I get packages for that exact head revision.
>>>
>>> Hope this answers your question.
>>>
>>> BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision from
>>> the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
>>> poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then revert the
>>> change.
>>>
>> Thanks, that's interesting. So, poudriere will build the jail from
>> sources from that specific revision?
> Yes, since it will "svn up -r <rev>" it's source tree for that jail.
>
> It will also invalidate and remove all packages if __FreeBSD_version has
> changed.
>
>> But I think it still won't solve the problem where the base packages
>> have been build with modified kernel configuration. Can you supply a
>> custom kernel configuration in your method?
> No I can't, but really a modified kernel configuration should not impact
> on ports, do you have a specific scenario?
>
> At most ports interact with kernel sources, whatever the configuration.
Yes, I do have a specific scenario of building drm-fbsd12.0-kmod. As I
was told on the -ports group this package has to be compiled with EXACT
same sources and kernel configuration as the kernel modules. I don't
know if that also means building using the kernel compiled from that
configuration, or if it's enough that the custom kernel configuration is
active when compiling the port, but definitely it would not be enough to
just have the kernel sources without the configuration. Unless I
misunderstood.
GrzegorzJ
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Subject: Re: FreeBSD-base and poudriere
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On 06/04/2020 11:49, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>
>>>> I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up;
>>>> make
>>>> buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere
>>>> machine. I
>>>> the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
>>>>
>>>> After that I perform:
>>>>
>>>> poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
>>>>
>>>> where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in
>>>> /usr/src.
>>>>
>>>> So I get packages for that exact head revision.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this answers your question.
>>>>
>>>> BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision
>>>> from
>>>> the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
>>>> poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then
>>>> revert the
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, that's interesting. So, poudriere will build the jail from
>>> sources from that specific revision?
>> Yes, since it will "svn up -r <rev>" it's source tree for that jail.
>>
>> It will also invalidate and remove all packages if __FreeBSD_version has
>> changed.
>>
>>> But I think it still won't solve the problem where the base packages
>>> have been build with modified kernel configuration. Can you supply a
>>> custom kernel configuration in your method?
>> No I can't, but really a modified kernel configuration should not impact
>> on ports, do you have a specific scenario?
>>
>> At most ports interact with kernel sources, whatever the configuration.
>
> Yes, I do have a specific scenario of building drm-fbsd12.0-kmod. As I
> was told on the -ports group this package has to be compiled with
> EXACT same sources and kernel configuration as the kernel modules. I
> don't know if that also means building using the kernel compiled from
> that configuration, or if it's enough that the custom kernel
> configuration is active when compiling the port, but definitely it
> would not be enough to just have the kernel sources without the
> configuration. Unless I misunderstood.
>
Actually, I just remembered that one can provide custom make.conf. So
this scenario should be covered by simply adding the KERNCONF with
custom kernel to the make.conf when creating jail. Oh wait, will it use
the make.conf when creating a jail or only when building ports?
GrzegorzJ
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On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:59:13PM +0200, Guido Falsi via freebsd-pkgbase wrote:
> On 06/04/20 11:56, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
> >
> > On 06/04/2020 09:42, Guido Falsi wrote:
> >> On 06/04/20 11:24, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
> >>> Is it possible to create a poudriere jail using FreeBSD-base packages?
> >>>
> >>> I am thinking about a scenario where I build kernel/world and base
> >>> packages on the host, then create a poudriere jail to build packages on
> >>> the exact same kernel/world that was build on the host.
> >> I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up; make
> >> buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere machine. I
> >> the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
> >>
> >> After that I perform:
> >>
> >> poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
> >>
> >> where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in /usr/src.
> >>
> >> So I get packages for that exact head revision.
> >>
> >> Hope this answers your question.
> >>
> >> BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision from
> >> the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
> >> poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then revert the
> >> change.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks, that's interesting. So, poudriere will build the jail from
> > sources from that specific revision?
>
> Yes, since it will "svn up -r <rev>" it's source tree for that jail.
>
> It will also invalidate and remove all packages if __FreeBSD_version has
> changed.
>
> >
> > But I think it still won't solve the problem where the base packages
> > have been build with modified kernel configuration. Can you supply a
> > custom kernel configuration in your method?
>
> No I can't, but really a modified kernel configuration should not impact
> on ports, do you have a specific scenario?
>
> At most ports interact with kernel sources, whatever the configuration.
NOINET6 don't change __FreeBSD_version but affect all inet-related
modules, for example.
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On 06/04/20 15:01, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:59:13PM +0200, Guido Falsi via freebsd-pkgbase wrote:
>
>> On 06/04/20 11:56, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>>>
>>> On 06/04/2020 09:42, Guido Falsi wrote:
>>>> On 06/04/20 11:24, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>>>>> Is it possible to create a poudriere jail using FreeBSD-base packages?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking about a scenario where I build kernel/world and base
>>>>> packages on the host, then create a poudriere jail to build packages on
>>>>> the exact same kernel/world that was build on the host.
>>>> I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up; make
>>>> buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere machine. I
>>>> the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
>>>>
>>>> After that I perform:
>>>>
>>>> poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
>>>>
>>>> where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in /usr/src.
>>>>
>>>> So I get packages for that exact head revision.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this answers your question.
>>>>
>>>> BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision from
>>>> the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
>>>> poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then revert the
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, that's interesting. So, poudriere will build the jail from
>>> sources from that specific revision?
>>
>> Yes, since it will "svn up -r <rev>" it's source tree for that jail.
>>
>> It will also invalidate and remove all packages if __FreeBSD_version has
>> changed.
>>
>>>
>>> But I think it still won't solve the problem where the base packages
>>> have been build with modified kernel configuration. Can you supply a
>>> custom kernel configuration in your method?
>>
>> No I can't, but really a modified kernel configuration should not impact
>> on ports, do you have a specific scenario?
>>
>> At most ports interact with kernel sources, whatever the configuration.
>
> NOINET6 don't change __FreeBSD_version but affect all inet-related
> modules, for example.
>
__FreeBSD_version can be changed only via commit it's unrelated to options.
Anyway I accept your correction, but I don't see the issue anyway,
changing such kernel configurations is not something one does every day
or should be done without planning for it.
--
Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
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On 06/04/20 13:49, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>
>>>> I'm doing a similar thing on head. What I do is run normal svn up; make
>>>> buildworld; make buildkernel; make packages on the poudriere machine. I
>>>> the upgrade that machine with the new base packages.
>>>>
>>>> After that I perform:
>>>>
>>>> poudriere jail -j ${j} -u -t 359154
>>>>
>>>> where 359154 is the subversion revision I have just compiled in
>>>> /usr/src.
>>>>
>>>> So I get packages for that exact head revision.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this answers your question.
>>>>
>>>> BTW I have found no way to create a jail with a fixed svn revision from
>>>> the get go. When I need to do that, I resort to temporarily modifying
>>>> poudriere code at jail.sh:563, adding -r <rev> option. I then revert
>>>> the
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, that's interesting. So, poudriere will build the jail from
>>> sources from that specific revision?
>> Yes, since it will "svn up -r <rev>" it's source tree for that jail.
>>
>> It will also invalidate and remove all packages if __FreeBSD_version has
>> changed.
>>
>>> But I think it still won't solve the problem where the base packages
>>> have been build with modified kernel configuration. Can you supply a
>>> custom kernel configuration in your method?
>> No I can't, but really a modified kernel configuration should not impact
>> on ports, do you have a specific scenario?
>>
>> At most ports interact with kernel sources, whatever the configuration.
>
>
> Yes, I do have a specific scenario of building drm-fbsd12.0-kmod. As I
> was told on the -ports group this package has to be compiled with EXACT
> same sources and kernel configuration as the kernel modules. I don't
> know if that also means building using the kernel compiled from that
> configuration, or if it's enough that the custom kernel configuration is
> active when compiling the port, but definitely it would not be enough to
> just have the kernel sources without the configuration. Unless I
> misunderstood.
I'm not sure that's the case for drm-fbsd12.0-kmod. I think it only
needs the same exact kernel sources.
The to actually use drm you will need a running kernel with the required
parts, but that should not change how the package is built.
--
Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
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I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
This:
pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
fails with this:
[2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:Â Â 4%
pkg: Fail to create hardlink:
/root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
[2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
/root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg
is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter
from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
Can I workaround with some option to pkg?
GrzegorzJ
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I have reinstalled the base system from FreeBSD pacakges build on a
different server. I have also created a tarball to use with etcupdate
root@build:~ # etcupdate build -s /usr/src-12-1-p3
/usr/obj/usr/src-12-1-p3_etc.tgz
I have extracted it on the destination host
root@host:/tmp # etcupdate extract -t /tmp/src-12-1-p3_etc.tgz
How am I supposed to maintain etc updates going forward? Just running
etcupdate returns with an error:
root@host:~ # etcupdate
Failed to build new tree.
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Hello,
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:27:23 +0000
Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
> I have reinstalled the base system from FreeBSD pacakges build on a
> different server. I have also created a tarball to use with etcupdate
>
> root@build:~ # etcupdate build -s /usr/src-12-1-p3
> /usr/obj/usr/src-12-1-p3_etc.tgz
>
> I have extracted it on the destination host
>
> root@host:/tmp # etcupdate extract -t /tmp/src-12-1-p3_etc.tgz
>
> How am I supposed to maintain etc updates going forward? Just running
> etcupdate returns with an error:
>
> root@host:~ # etcupdate
> Failed to build new tree.
>
You're not supposed to use etcupdate with pkgbase, the pkgs have the
configuration files taggued and so pkg(8) will attempt a 3 way merge on
them.
Cheers,
--
Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org>
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> I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
>=20
> This:
>=20
> pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
>=20
> fails with this:
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> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:=A0=A0 4%
> pkg: Fail to create hardlink:=20
> /root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
>=20
> /root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg=20
> is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter=20
> from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
pkg(8) first extract the file to the target directory but with a
temporary name, if it was using /tmp/ or /var/tmp/ it would have to
potentially move the file from one partition to another while right now
it can just rename it after having dealt with the old copy.
Can you zfs list on this box please ?
> Can I workaround with some option to pkg?
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> GrzegorzJ
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On 11/04/2020 15:08, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:27:23 +0000
> Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>
>> I have reinstalled the base system from FreeBSD pacakges build on a
>> different server. I have also created a tarball to use with etcupdate
>>
>> root@build:~ # etcupdate build -s /usr/src-12-1-p3
>> /usr/obj/usr/src-12-1-p3_etc.tgz
>>
>> I have extracted it on the destination host
>>
>> root@host:/tmp # etcupdate extract -t /tmp/src-12-1-p3_etc.tgz
>>
>> How am I supposed to maintain etc updates going forward? Just running
>> etcupdate returns with an error:
>>
>> root@host:~ # etcupdate
>> Failed to build new tree.
>>
> You're not supposed to use etcupdate with pkgbase, the pkgs have the
> configuration files taggued and so pkg(8) will attempt a 3 way merge on
> them.
>
Thanks for quick update. Is the wiki outdated then?
https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase#Initial_setup
See point 8.
--GrzegorzJ
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On 11/04/2020 15:12, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:39:30 +0000
> Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>
>> I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
>>
>> This:
>>
>> pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
>>
>> fails with this:
>>
>> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:Â Â 4%
>> pkg: Fail to create hardlink:
>> /root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
>> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
>>
>> /root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg
>> is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter
>> from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
> pkg(8) first extract the file to the target directory but with a
> temporary name, if it was using /tmp/ or /var/tmp/ it would have to
> potentially move the file from one partition to another while right now
> it can just rename it after having dealt with the old copy.
>
> Can you zfs list on this box please ?
root@moon:~ # zfs list
NAMEÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â USEDÂ AVAILÂ REFERÂ MOUNTPOINT
tank6Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 3.35GÂ 25.9GÂ Â Â 88KÂ none
tank6/ROOTÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 1.89GÂ 25.9GÂ Â Â 88KÂ none
tank6/ROOT/default 1.89G 25.9G 1.89G /
tank6/e            4.50M 25.9G   88K none
tank6/e/tmp          96K 25.9G   96K /tmp
tank6/e/var_db_pkg 4.32M 25.9G 4.32M /var/db/pkg
tank6/es           26.4M 25.9G   88K none
tank6/es/root        88K 25.9G   88K /root
tank6/es/usr_home   136K 25.9G  136K /usr/home
tank6/es/usr_local 26.1M 25.9G 26.1M /usr/local
tank6/j              88K 25.9G   88K /j
tank6/m             176K 25.9G   88K none
tank6/m/var_mail     88K 25.9G   88K /var/mail
tank6/t              88K 25.9G   88K none
tank6/var          1.38G 25.9G 1.38G /var
tank6/var/empty      88K 25.9G   88K /var/empty
tank6/var/tmp        88K 25.9G   88K /var/tmp
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Can anyone help with a minimal set of packages to install and start a
functional jail? By functional I mean one that allows to login as root
with jexec jailname sh.
Actually, is there any description available what each package is for?
Files +MANIFEST and +COMPACT_MANIFEST don't seem to convey any description.
--GrzegorzJ
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> I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
>
> This:
>
> pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
>
> fails with this:
>
> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:?? 4%
> pkg: Fail to create hardlink:
> /root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
^^^^^^
> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
>
> /root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg
> is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter
> from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
The failure is caused by the fact that /.cshrc and /root/.cshrc
are hardlinked to each other. A hardlink can not cross a
ZFS dataset or a ufs mount point.
>
> Can I workaround with some option to pkg?
I doubt that.
> GrzegorzJ
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"Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
> >
> > This:
> >
> > pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
> >
> > fails with this:
> >
> > [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:?? 4%
> > pkg: Fail to create hardlink:
> > /root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
> ^^^^^^
>
>
> > [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
> >
> > /root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg
> > is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter
> > from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
>
> The failure is caused by the fact that /.cshrc and /root/.cshrc
> are hardlinked to each other. A hardlink can not cross a
> ZFS dataset or a ufs mount point.
Ah right.
> >
> > Can I workaround with some option to pkg?
>
> I doubt that.
Someone (tm) should add support for this in pkg.
> > GrzegorzJ
>
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> "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>
> > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
> > >
> > > This:
> > >
> > > pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
> > >
> > > fails with this:
> > >
> > > [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:?? 4%
> > > pkg: Fail to create hardlink:
> > > /root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
> > ^^^^^^
> >
> >
> > > [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
> > >
> > > /root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg
> > > is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter
> > > from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
> >
> > The failure is caused by the fact that /.cshrc and /root/.cshrc
> > are hardlinked to each other. A hardlink can not cross a
> > ZFS dataset or a ufs mount point.
>
> Ah right.
>
> > >
> > > Can I workaround with some option to pkg?
> >
> > I doubt that.
>
> Someone (tm) should add support for this in pkg.
An option to convert hardlinks to symlinks or duplicate files could be done.
For the person with this problem there are ways to work around it
by not making /root a seperate dataset, create /toor data set,
set toor login home to /toor, use that for what ever it is that
made you feel you needed to have /root as its own data set.
> > > GrzegorzJ
> > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org
> Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org>
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> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
> "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>
> > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
> > >
> > > This:
> > >
> > > pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
> > >
> > > fails with this:
> > >
> > > [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:?? 4%
> > > pkg: Fail to create hardlink:
> > > /root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
> > ^^^^^^
> >
> >
> > > [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
> > >
> > > /root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg
> > > is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter
> > > from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
> >
> > The failure is caused by the fact that /.cshrc and /root/.cshrc
> > are hardlinked to each other. A hardlink can not cross a
> > ZFS dataset or a ufs mount point.
>
> Ah right.
>
> > >
> > > Can I workaround with some option to pkg?
> >
> > I doubt that.
>
> Someone (tm) should add support for this in pkg.
I of course meant adding support to either proper error reporting or
fallback to symbolic link.
> > > GrzegorzJ
> >
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Subject: Re: /root on a separate dataset breaks FreeBSD-base installation
To: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>,
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On 11/04/2020 17:03, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
>> "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>>
>>> [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
>>>> I am following https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase
>>>>
>>>> This:
>>>>
>>>> pkg install -g 'FreeBSD-*'
>>>>
>>>> fails with this:
>>>>
>>>> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3:?? 4%
>>>> pkg: Fail to create hardlink:
>>>> /root/.pkgtemp..cshrc.v5sxGCRu3GlP:Cross-device link
>>> ^^^^^^
>>>
>>>
>>>> [2/800] Extracting FreeBSD-runtime-12.1_3: 100%
>>>>
>>>> /root is in a different ZFS dataset. It works fine if it's not. Why pkg
>>>> is using /root/.pkgtemp instead of /tmp or /var/tmp? It doesn't matter
>>>> from where I run the command, looks like the path is hardcoded.
>>> The failure is caused by the fact that /.cshrc and /root/.cshrc
>>> are hardlinked to each other. A hardlink can not cross a
>>> ZFS dataset or a ufs mount point.
>> Ah right.
>>
>>>> Can I workaround with some option to pkg?
>>> I doubt that.
>> Someone (tm) should add support for this in pkg.
> An option to convert hardlinks to symlinks or duplicate files could be done.
>
> For the person with this problem there are ways to work around it
> by not making /root a seperate dataset, create /toor data set,
> set toor login home to /toor, use that for what ever it is that
> made you feel you needed to have /root as its own data set.
Did you mean - set root login home to /toor? Or create a new toor user?
I think the same will be with .profile which also looks like it's
hardlinked.
Wouldn't pkg already have to handle this for normal port packages
somehow? Or they never create hardlinks? Is it worth raising bug/feature
in bugzilla for pkg?
--GrzegorzJ
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Subject: Re: Minimal set of pkbase packages
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On 11/04/2020 16:21, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
> Can anyone help with a minimal set of packages to install and start a
> functional jail? By functional I mean one that allows to login as root
> with jexec jailname sh.
>
> Actually, is there any description available what each package is for?
> Files +MANIFEST and +COMPACT_MANIFEST don't seem to convey any
> description.
>
I just figured out myself. Mostly followed from
http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/Creating-jails-from-pkgbase-packages-tt6327893.html
Basically, on the host on which pkg-base is already installed and working:
Create /jail/test/etc (where jail/test is the jail's root)
scp worldstage/etc/master.password from the build directory, e.g.
/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/worldstage/etc/master.password, to
/jail/test/etc
Then install with
pkg -r /jail/test install FreeBSD-runtime
Runtime's postinstall will automatically use the master.password to
populate appropriate files. Then create jail.conf as usually. That
allows to start a minimal jail and jexec sh to it.
I wonder, why /etc/master.password isn't automatically included in any
of the base packages?
--GrzegorzJ
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 16:21:55 +0000 Grzegorz Junka list1@gjunka=2Ecom said
> Can anyone help with a minimal set of packages to install and start a=20
> functional jail? By functional I mean one that allows to login as root=20
> with jexec jailname sh=2E
>=20
> Actually, is there any description available what each package is for?=20
> Files +MANIFEST and +COMPACT_MANIFEST don't seem to convey any descriptio=
n=2E
You can simply extract "base" from any official distribution into a target
jail folder/dir && you're good to go! :)
EXAMPLE from freebsd memstick
# mount /dev/da1s2a /mnt/
# cp -p /mnt/usr/freebsd-dist/base=2Etxz /place/to/jaildir
# cd /place/to/jaildir
# tar xvJf base=2Etxz && rm base=2Etxz
DONE! :)
you could also copy and use kernel=2Etxz if you needed to
do anything kernel related=2E
--Chris
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> --GrzegorzJ
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