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Subject: x11-toolkits/qt5-gui build on/for Cortex-A7 ( head -r356109 ) failed
with: unable to execute command: Executable "as" doesn't exist
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Is system-clang 9.0.1 supposed to implicitly try to use
/usr/local/bin/as ? It does for this context . . .
Note the -fno-integrated-as use in the later quoted log material.
I'll also note that an experiment via -### shows that system-clang
9.0.1 then uses a command like (from a very simple example test):
"/usr/local/bin/as" "-mfpu=3Dvfp" "-meabi=3D5" "-o" "a.o" =
"/tmp/a-14ae2e.s"
and that in turn presumes that devel/binutils has provided
/usr/local/bin/as .
That in turn means that, for ports-mgmt/poudriere-devel to
work for x11-toolkits/qt5-gui ,
BUILD_DEPENDS=3D at-spi2-core>=3D0:accessibility/at-spi2-core \
${LOCALBASE}/include/linux/input.h:devel/evdev-proto \
=
${LOCALBASE}/include/vulkan/vulkan.h:devel/vulkan-headers
would need to also include (or the @native explicita-flavor variant):
${LOCALBASE}/bin/as:devel/binutils
HOWEVER, I'm not sure if the implicit use of /usr/local/bin/as
is intentional or not for system-clang.
The failure report (1st error only, there were more):
. . .
--- .obj/pixman-arm-neon-asm.o ---
cc -c -O2 -pipe -mcpu=3Dcortex-a7 -g -fstack-protector-strong -isystem =
/usr/local/include -fno-strict-aliasing -std=3Dgnu11 -fvisibility=3Dhidden=
-fno-exceptions -Wall -W -pthread -fPIC -DQT_ACCESSIBILITY -DQT_DBUS =
-DQT_FONTCONFIG -DQT_FREETYPE -DQT_GLIB -DQT_IMAGEFORMAT_PNG -DQT_OPENGL =
-DQT_SHAPE -DQT_XCB -DQT_XKB -DQT_XKBCOMMON -DQT_XRENDER =
-DQT_NO_USING_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_FOREACH -DENABLE_PIXMAN_DRAWHELPERS =
-DQT_NO_NARROWING_CONVERSIONS_IN_CONNECT -DQT_BUILD_GUI_LIB =
-DQT_BUILDING_QT -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -DQT_ASCII_CAST_WARNINGS =
-DQT_MOC_COMPAT -DQT_USE_QSTRINGBUILDER -DQT_DEPRECATED_WARNINGS =
-DQT_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_BEFORE=3D0x050000 -DQT_NO_EXCEPTIONS =
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -DQT_CORE_LIB =
-fno-integrated-as -I. -I../../include -I../../include/QtGui =
-I../../include/QtGui/5.13.2 -I../../include/QtGui/5.13.2/QtGui =
-I.tracegen -isystem /usr/local/include/libdrm -isystem =
/usr/local/include/qt5/QtCore/5.13.2 -isystem =
/usr/local/include/qt5/QtCore/5.13.2/QtCore -isystem =
/usr/local/include/qt5 -isystem /usr/local/include/qt5/QtCore -I.moc =
-isystem /usr/local/include/libpng16 -isystem /usr/local/include =
-I/usr/local/lib/qt5/mkspecs/freebsd-clang =
../3rdparty/pixman/pixman-arm-neon-asm.S -o .obj/pixman-arm-neon-asm.o
. . .
--- .obj/pixman-arm-neon-asm.o ---
cc: error: unable to execute command: Executable "as" doesn't exist!
cc: error: assembler command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see =
invocation)
*** [.obj/pixman-arm-neon-asm.o] Error code 1
make[1]: stopped in =
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt5-gui/work/qtbase-everywhere-src-5.13.2/=
src/gui
. . .
For reference:
Build based on ports-mgmt/pooudriere-devel .
=46rom early in the log, showing compiler information:
#### /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/ports_env.sh ####
_CCVERSION_921dbbb2=3DFreeBSD clang version 9.0.1 =
(git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git =
c1a0a213378a458fbea1a5c77b315c7dce08fd05) (based on LLVM 9.0.1) Target: =
armv7-unknown-freebsd13.0-gnueabihf Thread model: posix InstalledDir: =
/usr/bin
_ALTCCVERSION_921dbbb2=3Dnone
_CXXINTERNAL_acaad9ca=3DFreeBSD clang version 9.0.1 =
(git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git =
c1a0a213378a458fbea1a5c77b315c7dce08fd05) (based on LLVM 9.0.1) Target: =
armv7-unknown-freebsd13.0-gnueabihf Thread model: posix InstalledDir: =
/usr/bin "/usr/bin/ld" "--eh-frame-hdr" "-dynamic-linker" =
"/libexec/ld-elf.so.1" "--hash-style=3Dboth" "--enable-new-dtags" "-o" =
"a.out" "/usr/lib/crt1.o" "/usr/lib/crti.o" "/usr/lib/crtbegin.o" =
"-L/usr/lib" "/dev/null" "-lc++" "-lm" "-lgcc" "--as-needed" "-lgcc_s" =
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CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_9bdba57c=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_6a4fe7f5=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_6bcac02b=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_67d20829=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_bfa62e83=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_f0b4d593=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_308abb44=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_f00456e5=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_65ad290d=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_f2776b26=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_b2657cc3=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_380987f7=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_160933ec=3Dyes
CC_OUTPUT_921dbbb2_fb62803b=3Dyes
_OBJC_CCVERSION_921dbbb2=3DFreeBSD clang version 9.0.1 =
(git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git =
c1a0a213378a458fbea1a5c77b315c7dce08fd05) (based on LLVM 9.0.1) Target: =
armv7-unknown-freebsd13.0-gnueabihf Thread model: posix InstalledDir: =
/usr/bin
_OBJC_ALTCCVERSION_921dbbb2=3Dnone
ARCH=3Darmv7
OPSYS=3DFreeBSD
_OSRELEASE=3D13.0-CURRENT
OSREL=3D13.0
OSVERSION=3D1300069
PYTHONBASE=3D/usr/local
_SMP_CPUS=3D4
CONFIGURE_MAX_CMD_LEN=3D262144
HAVE_PORTS_ENV=3D1
# uname -apKU
FreeBSD OPiP2E 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #12 r356109M: Fri Dec =
27 17:24:56 PST 2019 =
markmi@FBSDFHUGE:/usr/obj/armv7_clang/arm.armv7/usr/src/arm.armv7/sys/GENE=
RIC-NODBG arm armv7 1300069 1300069
# cc -v
FreeBSD clang version 9.0.1 (git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git =
c1a0a213378a458fbea1a5c77b315c7dce08fd05) (based on LLVM 9.0.1)
Target: armv7-unknown-freebsd13.0-gnueabihf
Thread model: posix
InstalledDir: /usr/bin
# svnlite info /usr/ports/
Path: /usr/ports
Working Copy Root Path: /usr/ports
URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head
Relative URL: ^/head
Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports
Repository UUID: 35697150-7ecd-e111-bb59-0022644237b5
Revision: 520539
Node Kind: directory
Schedule: normal
Last Changed Author: ler
Last Changed Rev: 520539
Last Changed Date: 2019-12-20 18:01:52 -0800 (Fri, 20 Dec 2019)
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 6:13 AM Tim Rice <tim@xinuos.com> wrote:
> How about checking the git log and doing a git diff.
> git clone git://git.geda-project.org/gerbv.git
>
> Looks like README-cvs.txt was pulled and README-git.txt added.
That should also work. Ash, Could you also check these?
Thanks,
Li-Wen
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Hello.
I've got a system where I had to install a few Python libraries with
pip, but I don't like this, since pkg info will not list them.
Thus I'm trying to port them, but I never ported Python libraries
before; so, before I submit my work, I thought I'd ask if someone more
experienced than me might have a look at it.
My first attempt was at IMAPClient: I copied another port
(net/py-GeoIP2) and modified it; this is the Makefile I came up with.
> # $FreeBSD$
>
> PORTNAME= IMAPClient
> PORTVERSION= 2.1.0
> CATEGORIES= mail python
> PKGNAMEPREFIX= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}
>
> MAINTAINER= ml@netfence.it
> COMMENT= Easy-to-use, Pythonic and complete IMAP client library
>
> LICENSE= BSD3CLAUSE
>
> RUN_DEPENDS= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}six>0:devel/py-six@${PY_FLAVOR}
>
> GH_ACCOUNT= mjs
> GH_PROJECT= imapclient
>
> NO_ARCH= yes
> USES= python
> USE_GITHUB= yes
> USE_PYTHON= autoplist distutils
>
> .include <bsd.port.mk>
"port test" gives some warning, but seems to say it's ok.
Anything wrong?
bye & TIA
av.
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Hi!
> I've got a system where I had to install a few Python libraries with pip,
> but I don't like this, since pkg info will not list them.
>
> Thus I'm trying to port them, but I never ported Python libraries before;
> so, before I submit my work, I thought I'd ask if someone more
> experienced than me might have a look at it.
> My first attempt was at IMAPClient: I copied another port (net/py-GeoIP2)
> and modified it; this is the Makefile I came up with.
[...]
Thanks. If you test it with portlint -AC and re-arrange a few
lines, portlint will report 'looks fine.' A testbuild with poudriere
worked fine.
USES before the rest of the lines, and it's silent:
USES= python
USE_GITHUB= yes
USE_PYTHON= autoplist distutils
GH_ACCOUNT= mjs
GH_PROJECT= imapclient
NO_ARCH= yes
--
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From: Charlie Li <ml+freebsd@vishwin.info>
To: Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it>, ports@freebsd.org
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Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> I've got a system where I had to install a few Python libraries with
> pip, but I don't like this, since pkg info will not list them.
>=20
> Thus I'm trying to port them, but I never ported Python libraries
> before; so, before I submit my work, I thought I'd ask if someone more
> experienced than me might have a look at it.
>=20
> My first attempt was at IMAPClient: I copied another port
> (net/py-GeoIP2) and modified it; this is the Makefile I came up with.
>=20
>> # $FreeBSD$
>>
>> PORTNAME=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 IMAPClient
>> PORTVERSION=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2.1.0
>> CATEGORIES=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mail python
>> PKGNAMEPREFIX=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}
>>
>> MAINTAINER=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ml@netfence.it
>> COMMENT=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Easy-to-use, Pythonic and complete IMAP c=
lient library
>>
>> LICENSE=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 BSD3CLAUSE
>>
>> RUN_DEPENDS=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}six>0:devel/py=
-six@${PY_FLAVOR}
>>
>> GH_ACCOUNT=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mjs
>> GH_PROJECT=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 imapclient
>>
>> NO_ARCH=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 yes
>> USES=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 python
>> USE_GITHUB=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 yes
>> USE_PYTHON=3D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 autoplist distutils
>>
>> .include <bsd.port.mk>
>=20
> "port test" gives some warning, but seems to say it's ok.
> Anything wrong?
>=20
Since you said you installed these Python packages with pip, they are
probably on pypi. In that case, it is recommended to use CHEESESHOP as
the MASTER_SITE (cheeseshop is the old name for pypi itself) instead of
going through github.
Also recommend reading through the documentation in the "Using Python"
chapter in the Porter's Handbook and the comments in Uses/python.mk to
really understand everything you're doing.
--=20
Charlie Li
=E2=80=A6nope, still don't have an exit line.
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org> wrote:
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> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote:
> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent restrictions on exFAT[1].
> >
> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed from sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the FreeBSD base system (like msdosfs) one day?
> >
> >
> > [1] <https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kernel/>
>
> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see an
> explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the license needs
> to be transferable.
>
> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good. Simply saying
> "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't really say anything.
> It's a statement of corporate direction and nothing else.
Expanding on what Kevin said,
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx
suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module
that they submitted.
The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
# Adam
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On 30/12/2019 4:54 am, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
Hi Andrea, nice first job on a Python port :)
> # $FreeBSD$
>
> PORTNAME=Â Â Â IMAPClient
Lowercase this PORTNAME
> PORTVERSION=Â Â Â 2.1.0
> CATEGORIES=Â Â Â mail python
> PKGNAMEPREFIX=Â Â Â ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}
>
> MAINTAINER= ml@netfence.it
> COMMENT=Â Â Â Easy-to-use, Pythonic and complete IMAP client library
>
> LICENSE=Â Â Â BSD3CLAUSE
Add LICENSE_FILE pointing to license file if one exists in the source
download
Both the PyPI sdist (MASTER_SITES=CHEESESHOP) and the GitHub repo have
one: "COPYING"
>
> RUN_DEPENDS=Â Â Â ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}six>0:devel/py-six@${PY_FLAVOR}
>
> GH_ACCOUNT=Â Â Â mjs
> GH_PROJECT=Â Â Â imapclient
>
> NO_ARCH=Â Â Â yes
> USES=Â Â Â Â Â Â Â python
> USE_GITHUB=Â Â Â yes
Use MASTER_SITES=CHEESESHOP if the project uploads a source tarball
("sdist") there, unless there's a compelling temporary reason to use an
alternative source, like missing license files, test files, etc.
> USE_PYTHON=Â Â Â autoplist distutils
>
> .include <bsd.port.mk>
For details Python Ports Policy & Guidelines/Tips:
https://wiki.freebsd.org/Python/PortsPolicy
If it doesn't answer any questions, needs clarifications or additions,
let us know
If you need further help or just want to hang out, we have a
#freebsd-python channel on freenode IRC, come and say hi :)
./koobs
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated:
>On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org>
>wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: =20
>> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent restrictions
>> > on exFAT[1].
>> >
>> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed from
>> > sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the FreeBSD base
>> > system (like msdosfs) one day?
>> >
>> >
>> > [1]
>> > <https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-ke=
rnel/>
>> > =20
>>
>> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see an
>> explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the license
>> needs to be transferable.
>>
>> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good. Simply
>> saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't really say
>> anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and nothing else. =20
>
>Expanding on what Kevin said,
>https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licen=
sing.aspx
>suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
>and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module
>that they submitted.
>
>The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
>commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
>relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
>
># Adam
I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing
and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject.
http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
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Sounds like something the foundation might be able to help with.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 6:41 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated:
> >On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote:
> >> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent restrictions
> >> > on exFAT[1].
> >> >
> >> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed from
> >> > sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the FreeBSD base
> >> > system (like msdosfs) one day?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> > <
> https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kernel/
> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see an
> >> explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the license
> >> needs to be transferable.
> >>
> >> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good. Simply
> >> saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't really say
> >> anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and nothing else.
> >
> >Expanding on what Kevin said,
> >
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx
> >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
> >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module
> >that they submitted.
> >
> >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
> >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
> >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
> >
> ># Adam
>
> I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing
> and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject.
>
> http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
>
> --
> Carmel
>
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> Expanding on what Kevin said,
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx
> suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
> and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module
> that they submitted.
>
> The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
> commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
> relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
>
Yeah, IANAL either. My quick read of the blog post may have been overly optimistic. Perhaps the Foundation could help?
I brought this topic up because I think a lot of people could benefit the cross-platform compatibility that this would provide.
--
Greg
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Hi!
Please have a look at this posting in ports@:
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2019-December/117385.html
> As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent
> restrictions on exFAT[1].
> Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed from
> sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the FreeBSD base
> system (like msdosfs) one day?
> [1] https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kernel/
During the discussion the question came up if the Foundation can
get in touch with Microsoft, see
http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
and get a clear statement from them about the use in the ports tree ?
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Subject: devel/binutils@powerpc64 ( powerpc64-unknown-freebsd13.0-ld )
unbounded loop in bfd/elf64-ppc.c : the source code and values
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I ran into the following ubounded loop
(via the continue) in bfd/elf64-ppc.c
while trying to do a
devel/freebsd-gcc9@powerpc64 based
buildworld buildkernel :
/* Read the relocations. */
relstart = _bfd_elf_link_read_relocs (ibfd, sec, NULL, NULL,
info->keep_memory);
if (relstart == NULL)
return FALSE;
relend = relstart + sec->reloc_count;
for (rel = relstart; rel < relend; )
{
enum elf_ppc64_reloc_type r_type;
unsigned long r_symndx;
asection *sym_sec;
struct elf_link_hash_entry *h;
Elf_Internal_Sym *sym;
unsigned char *tls_maskp;
r_type = ELF64_R_TYPE (rel->r_info);
if (r_type != R_PPC64_PLTCALL
&& r_type != R_PPC64_PLTCALL_NOTOC)
continue;
Nothing is done before the continue to make rel
progress towards relend (or relend towards
relstart). It just repeats the same activity
over and over on the same rel value.
This was in:
devel/binutils/work-powerpc64/binutils-2.33.1/bfd/elf64-ppc.c
The 1st line quoted above was line 7455 according to vi.
Ref reference, both of the stuck links (clang.full and
lld.full) have:
(gdb) print r_type
$1 = R_PPC64_REL16_HA
(gdb) print/x *rel
$3 = {r_offset = 0x2, r_info = 0x18000000fc, r_addend = 0x2}
===
Mark Millard
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r521562 - in head/java: . wildfly17 wildfly17/files
To: Kurt Jaeger <pi@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org,
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On 30/12/2019 13:28, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> Author: pi
> Date: Mon Dec 30 18:28:24 2019
> New Revision: 521562
> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/521562
>
> Log:
> New port: java/wildfly17
>
> WildFly is a flexible, lightweight, managed application
> runtime that helps you build amazing applications.
> WildFly - new name for JBoss Application Server
>
> Fast Startup
> Small Footprint
> Modular Design
> Unified Configuration and Management
>
> And of course Java EE / Jakarta EE!
>
> WWW: https://wildfly.org/
>
> This is the first Wildfly with JAKARTA EE8 full support.
>
> PR: 242962
> Submitted by: Simeo Reig <reig.simeo@gmail.com>
>
> Added:
> head/java/wildfly17/
> - copied from r521432, head/java/wildfly16/
> head/java/wildfly17/files/wildfly17.in
> - copied unchanged from r521432, head/java/wildfly16/files/wildfly16.in
> Deleted:
> head/java/wildfly17/files/wildfly16.in
> Modified:
> head/java/Makefile
> head/java/wildfly17/Makefile
> head/java/wildfly17/distinfo
> head/java/wildfly17/files/pkg-message.in
> head/java/wildfly17/pkg-descr
> head/java/wildfly17/pkg-plist
>
> Modified: head/java/Makefile
> ==============================================================================
> --- head/java/Makefile Mon Dec 30 18:16:59 2019 (r521561)
> +++ head/java/Makefile Mon Dec 30 18:28:24 2019 (r521562)
> @@ -125,6 +125,7 @@
> SUBDIR += wildfly14
> SUBDIR += wildfly15
> SUBDIR += wildfly16
> + SUBDIR += wildfly17
> SUBDIR += wildfly90
> SUBDIR += xdoclet
>
Not complaining, but I wonder why we have so many versioned ports
instead of having just one wildfly and wildfly-devel. wildfly 18 is
available, BTW.
Pedro.
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Hi!
> Not complaining, but I wonder why we have so many versioned ports instead
> of having just one wildfly and wildfly-devel.
I guess Simoe has more context about this.
> wildfly 18 is available, BTW.
Yes, I'm just testbuilding that one.
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Subject: Re: exFAT is no longer encumbered
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A final thought: legal issues aside, a FreeBSD port of the Microsoft exFAT implementation (i.e. the kernel module) could have a number of benefits over the fusefs(5) implementation.
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:41 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated:
> >On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote:
> >> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent restrictions
> >> > on exFAT[1].
> >> >
> >> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed from
> >> > sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the FreeBSD base
> >> > system (like msdosfs) one day?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> > <
> https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kernel/
> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see an
> >> explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the license
> >> needs to be transferable.
> >>
> >> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good. Simply
> >> saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't really say
> >> anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and nothing else.
> >
> >Expanding on what Kevin said,
> >
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx
> >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
> >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module
> >that they submitted.
> >
> >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
> >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
> >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
> >
> ># Adam
>
> I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing
> and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject.
>
> http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
>
On my phone the site displays a "Contoso, Ltd." title (That's Microsoft's
pretend company for all it's examples). The IP Address resolves to a
seemingly non-Microsoft server: waws-prod-bay-059.cloudapp.net
[23.99.91.55]. To boot, there is no corporate branding or other links back
to the Microsoft site. Forgive me, but it seems like a terrible idea to
submit information to that site.
>
> --
> Carmel
>
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:41 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny at outlook.com> =
wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated:
> > . . .
> > =
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licen=
sing.aspx
> > >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
> > >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel =
module
> > >that they submitted.
> > >
> > >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
> > >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
> > >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
> > >
> > ># Adam
> >
> > I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing
> > and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject.
> >
> > http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
> >
> On my phone the site displays a "Contoso, Ltd." title (That's =
Microsoft's
> pretend company for all it's examples). The IP Address resolves to a
> seemingly non-Microsoft server: waws-prod-bay-059.cloudapp.net
> [23.99.91.55]. To boot, there is no corporate branding or other links =
back
> to the Microsoft site. Forgive me, but it seems like a terrible idea =
to
> submit information to that site.
It seems poor form on Microsoft's part in several
respects, but the page at:
=
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/iplicensing/def=
ault.aspx
has a link for "process of obtaining a license".
Guess where it goes:
http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
The earlier "Contact a licensing executive" link
on the page also goes there.
Both of those are under the "Learn More about Patent
Licensing" section of the page.
=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:59:09 -0800, Russell Haley stated:
>On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:41 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated: =20
>> >On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org>
>> >wrote: =20
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: =20
>> >> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent
>> >> > restrictions on exFAT[1].
>> >> >
>> >> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed
>> >> > from sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the
>> >> > FreeBSD base system (like msdosfs) one day?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [1]
>> >> > < =20
>> https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kerne=
l/
>> =20
>> > =20
>> >> > =20
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see
>> >> an explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the
>> >> license needs to be transferable.
>> >>
>> >> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good.
>> >> Simply saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't
>> >> really say anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and
>> >> nothing else. =20
>> >
>> >Expanding on what Kevin said,
>> > =20
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-lic=
ensing.aspx
>> =20
>> >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
>> >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module
>> >that they submitted.
>> >
>> >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
>> >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
>> >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
>> >
>> ># Adam =20
>>
>> I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing
>> and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject.
>>
>> http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
>> =20
>On my phone the site displays a "Contoso, Ltd." title (That's
>Microsoft's pretend company for all it's examples). The IP Address
>resolves to a seemingly non-Microsoft server:
>waws-prod-bay-059.cloudapp.net [23.99.91.55]. To boot, there is no
>corporate branding or other links back to the Microsoft site. Forgive
>me, but it seems like a terrible idea to submit information to that
>site.
That link leads to:
https://celaiplicensing.microsoftcrmportals.com/IPlicensing/
<microsoftcrmportals.com> is owned by Microsoft. I am not sure what
your specific complaint is.
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 2:46 PM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:59:09 -0800, Russell Haley stated:
> >On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:41 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated:
> >> >On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote:
> >> >> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent
> >> >> > restrictions on exFAT[1].
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed
> >> >> > from sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the
> >> >> > FreeBSD base system (like msdosfs) one day?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > [1]
> >> >> > <
> >>
> https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kernel/
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see
> >> >> an explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the
> >> >> license needs to be transferable.
> >> >>
> >> >> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good.
> >> >> Simply saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't
> >> >> really say anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and
> >> >> nothing else.
> >> >
> >> >Expanding on what Kevin said,
> >> >
> >>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx
> >>
> >> >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before,
> >> >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module
> >> >that they submitted.
> >> >
> >> >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in
> >> >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to
> >> >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL.
> >> >
> >> ># Adam
> >>
> >> I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing
> >> and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject.
> >>
> >> http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing
> >>
> >On my phone the site displays a "Contoso, Ltd." title (That's
> >Microsoft's pretend company for all it's examples). The IP Address
> >resolves to a seemingly non-Microsoft server:
> >waws-prod-bay-059.cloudapp.net [23.99.91.55]. To boot, there is no
> >corporate branding or other links back to the Microsoft site. Forgive
> >me, but it seems like a terrible idea to submit information to that
> >site.
>
> That link leads to:
> https://celaiplicensing.microsoftcrmportals.com/IPlicensing/
>
> <microsoftcrmportals.com> is owned by Microsoft. I am not sure what
> your specific complaint is.
>
My complaint is that the site looked dodgy and I was pointing out why I
thought so. Apologies if I was incorrect.
--
> Carmel
>
>
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As noted in
<http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201912302038.xBUKcol9050658>,
the -c6 ports "expire tomorrow."
I don't see a documented process for migrating from linux_base-c6 to
linux_base-c7; perhaps I'm being thicker than usual.
For example, from prior migrations (e.g., the 20141209 entry in
ports/UPDATING), there's a mention of:
| 2. Persistently update the Linux kernel version in /etc/sysctl.conf:
|
| compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.6.18
and since there has (as far as I know) been no indication that that
should be changed, I still have it (in stable/11, stable/12, and
head). But
<https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-lbc-in=
stall.html>
does not mention a compat.linux.osrelease sysctl value at all.
I had asked about the migration process Fri Sep 30 20:30:24 UTC 2016;
at the time, the response was:
| We are still working on the other c7 ports:
| https://reviews.freebsd.org/D7886
but I have seen nothing further about the migration process itself.
ports/UPDATING entry 20190710 does discuss the "c6" Linux emulation (but
not "c7").
So: how should a system that has been configured to support
linux_base-c6 be migrated to support linux_base-c7?
Thanks.
Peace,
david
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> As noted in
> <http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201912302038.xBUKcol9050658>,
> the -c6 ports "expire tomorrow."
>
> I don't see a documented process for migrating from linux_base-c6 to
> linux_base-c7; perhaps I'm being thicker than usual.
>
> For example, from prior migrations (e.g., the 20141209 entry in
> ports/UPDATING), there's a mention of:
>
> | 2. Persistently update the Linux kernel version in /etc/sysctl.conf:
> |
> | compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.18
This was needed when the default value was 2.4.<something>, but nowadays
the default is already higher than 2.6.18 so you can just remove this.
Besides that it's just a matter of removing c6 packages and installing c7
packages.
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 04:19:30PM +0100, T=C4=B3l Coosemans wrote:
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> > | compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.6.18
>=20
> This was needed when the default value was 2.4.<something>, but nowadays
> the default is already higher than 2.6.18 so you can just remove this.
> Besides that it's just a matter of removing c6 packages and installing c7
> packages.
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On 2019-12-30 03:26, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
Thanks to all that replied.
Especially the link to Python Ports Policy & Guidelines/Tips was very
useful, as I hadn't found this myself :(
I tried to follow all your suggestions, but I'm having some problems
with it...
Using CHEESESHOP
I removed USE_GITHUB, GH_ACCOUNT and GH_PROJECT, and added
"MASTER_SITES= CHEESESHOP".
However, running make makesum I get:
> # make makesum
> ===> License BSD3CLAUSE accepted by the user
> ===> License BSD3CLAUSE accepted by the user
> ===> py36-imapclient-2.1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
> => imapclient-2.1.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
> => Attempting to fetch https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/source/i/imapclient/imapclient-2.1.0.tar.gz
> fetch: https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/source/i/imapclient/imapclient-2.1.0.tar.gz: Not Found
> => Attempting to fetch https://pypi.org/packages/source/i/imapclient/imapclient-2.1.0.tar.gz
> fetch: https://pypi.org/packages/source/i/imapclient/imapclient-2.1.0.tar.gz: Not Found
> => Attempting to fetch http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/imapclient-2.1.0.tar.gz
> fetch: http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/imapclient-2.1.0.tar.gz: Not Found
> => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
> => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
> *** Error code 1
I'm not just into it enought to understand what I have to do to solve.
Tests
In setup.py, I see:
> test_deps = ['mock>=1.3.0; python_version < "3.4"']
I think I have to put in Makefile:
> TEST_DEPENDS= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}mock>1.3.0:devel/py-mock@${PY_FLAVOR}
However I don't know how to handle that <"3.4"...
Then I wrote:
> do-test:
> @cd ${WRKSRC} && ${PYTHON_CMD} ${PYDISTUTILS_SETUP} test
Is this correct?
Finally, tests fail:
> # make test
> ===> Patching for py36-imapclient-2.1.0
> ===> py36-imapclient-2.1.0 depends on package: py36-setuptools>0 - found
> ===> py36-imapclient-2.1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python3.6 - found
> ...
> test_invalid (tests.test_datetime_util.TestParsing) ... ok
> test_rfc822_style (tests.test_datetime_util.TestParsing) ... ok
>
> ======================================================================
> FAIL: test_redacted_password (tests.test_imapclient.TestDebugLogging)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/ports/mail/py-IMAPClient/work-py36/imapclient-2.1.0/tests/test_imapclient.py", line 521, in test_redacted_password
> extra={}
> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/unittest/mock.py", line 824, in assert_called_once_with
> raise AssertionError(msg)
> AssertionError: Expected '_log' to be called once. Called 0 times.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ran 254 tests in 0.115s
>
> FAILED (failures=1)
> Test failed: <unittest.runner.TextTestResult run=254 errors=0 failures=1>
> error: Test failed: <unittest.runner.TextTestResult run=254 errors=0 failures=1>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> make: stopped in /usr/ports/mail/py-IMAPClient
Is this my fault, a problem upstream, a problem in some dependency?
Docs
I'm trying to learn by example, here, so I looked at a couple of ports
and came up with the Makefile I'll post at the end.
Troubles:
_ this way, documentation files are not in the plist, and "port test"
obviously complains.
_ Documentation files are not versioned: do I need to use "concurrent" then?
_ If I run "port test" without py36-sphinx installed, it doesn't work;
shouldn't it install this as a dependency (and remove it afterwards)?
bye & Thanks
av.
> # $FreeBSD$
>
> PORTNAME= imapclient
> PORTVERSION= 2.1.0
> CATEGORIES= mail python
> #MASTER_SITES= CHEESESHOP
> PKGNAMEPREFIX= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}
>
> MAINTAINER= ml@netfence.it
> COMMENT= Easy-to-use, Pythonic and complete IMAP client library
>
> LICENSE= BSD3CLAUSE
> LICENSE_FILE= ${WRKSRC}/COPYING
>
> RUN_DEPENDS= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}six>0:devel/py-six@${PY_FLAVOR}
> TEST_DEPENDS= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}mock>1.3.0:devel/py-mock@${PY_FLAVOR}
>
> USES= python:2.7-3.7
> USE_GITHUB= yes
> USE_PYTHON= autoplist distutils
> GH_ACCOUNT= mjs
> GH_PROJECT= imapclient
> NO_ARCH= yes
>
> OPTIONS_DEFINE= DOCS
>
> DOCS_BUILD_DEPENDS= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}sphinx>=0:textproc/py-sphinx@${PY_FLAVOR}
> DOCS_VARS= PYDISTUTILS_BUILD_TARGET+="build_sphinx -a -E"
>
> post-install-DOCS-on:
> @${MKDIR} ${STAGEDIR}${DOCSDIR}
> (cd ${WRKSRC}/doc/html && ${COPYTREE_SHARE} . ${STAGEDIR}${DOCSDIR} "! -name .buildinfo -and ! -name objects.inv")
>
> do-test:
> @cd ${WRKSRC} && ${PYTHON_CMD} ${PYDISTUTILS_SETUP} test
>
> .include <bsd.port.mk>
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>>
>> That is a hack that can be used to work around the issue; I strongly
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I think using the hack patch in devel/freebsd-gcc* is fine for now, but can
you confirm if both 6 and 9 need it or only 9?
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On 2019-Dec-31, at 16:41, John Baldwin <jhb at freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 12/26/19 11:39 PM, Mark Millard wrote:
>>>> is missing the patch-clang-vec_step that is in:
>>>>
>>>> FBSDG5L2# ls -laT /usr/ports/lang/gcc9/files/
>>>
>>> That is a hack that can be used to work around the issue; I strongly
>>> recommend addressing this in clang properly, though.
>
> I think using the hack patch in devel/freebsd-gcc* is fine for now, but can
> you confirm if both 6 and 9 need it or only 9?
>
devel/freebsd-gcc6 and devel/freebsd-gcc9 both need it.
The vec_step identifier has been in use in gcc's
gcc/tree-vect-loop.c for a long time and still is in
use. Going the other way, reserving vec_step for
opencl/altivec for PowerPc's has been in clang for a
long time.
I've had to have local patches for lang/gcc6 and later
and in devel/powerpc64-gcc historically (2017+) because
of my clang-targeting-PowerPc activities and trying
to build gcc versions via clang as part of those
activities. (Of course, some places have patches of
their own now.)
===
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Subject: Re: [multimedia/audacious-plugins] Fix playback at wrong tonality
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 5:25 AM <soralx@cydem.org> wrote:
>
>
> Howdy!
>
> [CC'ing one of audacious developers whose email I was able to find, as
> this really is an upstream issue]
Hi there!
Thanks for the heads up. Would you mind opening a PR[1]? Also,
ideally, this would be fixed upstream :-)
[1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/
>
> I noticed that on a certain USB audio device that I have, audacious would
> play songs too fast when the sound device is in BITPERFECT mode, while
> mpv, for example, plays them at correct speed.
>
> Turns out that this device supports only one samplerate (48.0 ksps), but
> audacious fails to detect that, and plays the 44.1 ksps song anyway,
> resulting in playback that is almost 9% too fast.
>
> The attached patch for OSS4 plugin fixes that. Please review.
> The 3% figure was chosen more or less arbitrarily, based on a random
> Internet article [0].
>
> Also, I would like to request the port maintainer to add a DBUS option,
> enabling to compile the player and its plugins without Linux's dbus
> dependency ("--disable-dbus" configure option does the trick, though
> stops `audtool` from building as well).
>
> [0] https://cecm.sitehost.iu.edu/etext/acoustics/chapter1_pitch.shtml
>
> --
> [SorAlx] ridin' VN2000 Classic LT
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:42:48 +0100
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r521562 - in head/java: . wildfly17 wildfly17/files
To: Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>
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Hi all,
Pedro=C2=B4s question could make sense in a regular environment but this =
is
Java world!. Still nowadays there are not so few companies running java
7/java EE7 despite we have java 13/Jakarta EE8.
In official Wildfly page, https://wildfly.org/downloads , you can see there
is still available from Wildfly 8 since the last Wildfly 18 more, summing
more than twenty versions all maintained.
Why? some versions are javaEE7 certified, some javaEE8 and some others
jakartaEE8. Some can use jdk7, some jdk8 and others can use last jdk11.
Some have microprofile included, some other no etcetera. Java EE has moved
from oracle to eclipse fundation, there have been more changes in last two
years than last twenty and therefore many companies are stilln adapting
their code.
By the way, thanks for your comments Pedro and commit new version Kurt.
Sime=C3=B3 Reig
On Wed, 1 Jan 2020, 14:01 Simeo Reig, <simeo.reig@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Pedro=C2=B4s question could make sense in a regular environment but thi=
s is
> Java world!. Still nowadays there are not so few companies running java
> 7/java EE7 despite we have java 13/Jakarta EE8.
>
> In official Wildfly page, https://wildfly.org/downloads , you can see
> there is still available from Wildfly 8 since the last Wildfly 18 more,
> summing more than twenty versions all maintained.
>
>
> Why? some versions are javaEE7 certified, some javaEE8 and some others
> jakartaEE8. Some can use jdk7, some jdk8 and others can use last jdk11.
> Some have microprofile included, some other no etcetera. Java EE has move=
d
> from oracle to eclipse fundation, there have been more changes in last tw=
o
> years than last twenty and therefore many companies are stilln adapting
> their code.
>
> By the way, thanks for comments Pedro and commit new version Kurt.
>
> Sime=C3=B3 Reig
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, 19:35 Pedro Giffuni, <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 30/12/2019 13:28, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
>> > Author: pi
>> > Date: Mon Dec 30 18:28:24 2019
>> > New Revision: 521562
>> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/521562
>> >
>> > Log:
>> > New port: java/wildfly17
>> >
>> > WildFly is a flexible, lightweight, managed application
>> > runtime that helps you build amazing applications.
>> > WildFly - new name for JBoss Application Server
>> >
>> > Fast Startup
>> > Small Footprint
>> > Modular Design
>> > Unified Configuration and Management
>> >
>> > And of course Java EE / Jakarta EE!
>> >
>> > WWW: https://wildfly.org/
>> >
>> > This is the first Wildfly with JAKARTA EE8 full support.
>> >
>> > PR: 242962
>> > Submitted by: Simeo Reig <reig.simeo@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Added:
>> > head/java/wildfly17/
>> > - copied from r521432, head/java/wildfly16/
>> > head/java/wildfly17/files/wildfly17.in
>> > - copied unchanged from r521432, head/java/wildfly16/files/
>> wildfly16.in
>> > Deleted:
>> > head/java/wildfly17/files/wildfly16.in
>> > Modified:
>> > head/java/Makefile
>> > head/java/wildfly17/Makefile
>> > head/java/wildfly17/distinfo
>> > head/java/wildfly17/files/pkg-message.in
>> > head/java/wildfly17/pkg-descr
>> > head/java/wildfly17/pkg-plist
>> >
>> > Modified: head/java/Makefile
>> >
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> > --- head/java/Makefile Mon Dec 30 18:16:59 2019 (r521561=
)
>> > +++ head/java/Makefile Mon Dec 30 18:28:24 2019 (r521562=
)
>> > @@ -125,6 +125,7 @@
>> > SUBDIR +=3D wildfly14
>> > SUBDIR +=3D wildfly15
>> > SUBDIR +=3D wildfly16
>> > + SUBDIR +=3D wildfly17
>> > SUBDIR +=3D wildfly90
>> > SUBDIR +=3D xdoclet
>> >
>>
>> Not complaining, but I wonder why we have so many versioned ports
>> instead of having just one wildfly and wildfly-devel. wildfly 18 is
>> available, BTW.
>>
>> Pedro.
>>
>>
>>
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Hi Simeo;
On 01/01/2020 09:42, Simeo Reig wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Pedro´s question could make sense in a regular environment but this is
> Java world!. Still nowadays there are not so few companies running
> java 7/java EE7 despite we have java 13/Jakarta EE8.
>
Hmm ... that is reasonable and surely justifies having your versioning
scheme.
Do note however, that we deprecated Java 7 and anything before that in
the ports tree so those ports should be deprecated.
People can still install and use older versions manually, of course.
> In official Wildfly page, https://wildfly.org/downloads , you can see
> there is still available from Wildfly 8 since the last Wildfly 18
> more, summing more than twenty versions all maintained.
>
>
> Why? some versions are javaEE7 certified, some javaEE8 and some others
> jakartaEE8. Some can use jdk7, some jdk8 and others can use last
> jdk11. Some have microprofile included, some other no etcetera. Java
> EE has moved from oracle to eclipse fundation, there have been more
> changes in last two years than last twenty and therefore many
> companies are stilln adapting their code.
>
Very interesting indeed. C++ has also been changing a lot.
> By the way, thanks for your comments Pedro and commit new version Kurt.
>
Thanks for the explanation,
Pedro.
> Simeó Reig
>
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020, 14:01 Simeo Reig, <simeo.reig@gmail.com
> <mailto:simeo.reig@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>  Pedro´s question could make sense in a regular environment but
> this is Java world!. Still nowadays there are not so few companies
> running java 7/java EE7 despite we have java 13/Jakarta EE8.
>
> In official Wildfly page, https://wildfly.org/downloads , you can
> see there is still available from Wildfly 8 since the last
> Wildfly 18 more, summing more than twenty versions all maintained.
>
>
> Why? some versions are javaEE7 certified, some javaEE8 and some
> others jakartaEE8. Some can use jdk7, some jdk8 and others can use
> last jdk11. Some have microprofile included, some other no
> etcetera. Java EE has moved from oracle to eclipse fundation,
> there have been more changes in last two years than last twenty
> and therefore many companies are stilln adapting their code.
>
> By the way, thanks for comments Pedro and commit new version Kurt.
>
> Simeó Reig
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, 19:35 Pedro Giffuni, <pfg@freebsd.org
> <mailto:pfg@freebsd.org>> wrote:
>
>
> On 30/12/2019 13:28, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> > Author: pi
> > Date: Mon Dec 30 18:28:24 2019
> > New Revision: 521562
> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/521562
> >
> > Log:
> >Â Â New port: java/wildfly17
> >
> >Â Â WildFly is a flexible, lightweight, managed application
> >Â Â runtime that helps you build amazing applications.
> >Â Â WildFly - new name for JBoss Application Server
> >
> >Â Â Fast Startup
> >Â Â Small Footprint
> >Â Â Modular Design
> >Â Â Unified Configuration and Management
> >
> >Â Â And of course Java EE / Jakarta EE!
> >
> >Â Â WWW: https://wildfly.org/
> >
> >Â Â This is the first Wildfly with JAKARTA EE8 full support.
> >
> >Â Â PR:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 242962
> >Â Â Submitted by:Â Â Â Simeo Reig <reig.simeo@gmail.com
> <mailto:reig.simeo@gmail.com>>
> >
> > Added:
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/
> >Â Â Â Â - copied from r521432, head/java/wildfly16/
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/files/wildfly17.in <http://wildfly17.in>
> >Â Â Â Â - copied unchanged from r521432,
> head/java/wildfly16/files/wildfly16.in <http://wildfly16.in>
> > Deleted:
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/files/wildfly16.in <http://wildfly16.in>
> > Modified:
> >Â Â head/java/Makefile
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/Makefile
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/distinfo
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/files/pkg-message.in
> <http://pkg-message.in>
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/pkg-descr
> >Â Â head/java/wildfly17/pkg-plist
> >
> > Modified: head/java/Makefile
> >
> ==============================================================================
> > --- head/java/Makefile    Mon Dec 30 18:16:59 2019  Â
> Â (r521561)
> > +++ head/java/Makefile    Mon Dec 30 18:28:24 2019  Â
> Â (r521562)
> > @@ -125,6 +125,7 @@
> >Â Â Â Â SUBDIR += wildfly14
> >Â Â Â Â SUBDIR += wildfly15
> >Â Â Â Â SUBDIR += wildfly16
> > +Â Â SUBDIR += wildfly17
> >Â Â Â Â SUBDIR += wildfly90
> >Â Â Â Â SUBDIR += xdoclet
> >
>
> Not complaining, but I wonder why we have so many versioned ports
> instead of having just one wildfly and wildfly-devel. wildfly
> 18 is
> available, BTW.
>
> Pedro.
>
>
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Hi,
The 2020Q1 branch has been created. It means that the next update on the
quarterly packages will be on the 2020Q1 branch.
A lot of things happened in the last three months:
- - pkg 1.12.0
- - Default version of Lazarus switched to 2.0.6
- - Default version of Python and Python3 switched to 3.7
- - Default version of Samba switched to 4.10
- - Firefox 72.0
- - Firefox-esr 68.4.0
- - Chromium 78.0.3904.108
- - Qt5 5.13.2
- - Linux CentOS 6 ports removed
- - Virtual category "ipv6" remvoved, this is now the norm
- - Physical category "palm" removed
Next quarterly package builds will start on Thursday 1:00 UTC and
should be available on your closest mirrors few days later.
For those stat nerds out there, here's what happened during the last 3 months on head:
Number of commits: 7907
Number of committers: 157
Most active committers:
1991 sunpoet
471 jbeich
462 yuri
340 tobik
289 amdmi3
240 pkubaj
234 tcberner
220 antoine
131 swills
118 dmgk
Diffstat: 22449 files changed, 291733 insertions(+), 434760 deletions(-)
and on the 2019Q4 branch:
Number of commits: 358
Number of committers: 61
Most active committers:
59 jbeich
31 mfechner
24 kai
20 antoine
15 koobs
13 riggs
13 rene
12 tz
11 zeising
11 linimon
Diffstat: 1255 files changed, 18153 insertions(+), 9189 deletions(-)
Regards,
René
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security/openssl.
A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private trees, =
don't we. ;)
Cheers,
Franco
> On 1. Jan 2020, at 9:37 PM, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>=20
> Portmaser -L errors out with
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> Make.conf:
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mysql=3D10.1m
>=20
> Worked fine on Saturday, maybe Friday.
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>=20
> --=20
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Ugh.
> A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private =
trees, don't we. ;)
This is going to go poorly, if previous attempts to update to 1.1 are =
any indication.
--=20
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usually because it was shorter. And it was more colourful, if =
you
liked the colour of blood. --Lords and Ladies
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--=20
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> On 1. Jan 2020, at 9:42 PM, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>=20
> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:40, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> =
wrote:
>> security/openssl was removed before, now security/openssl111 has =
become security/openssl.
>=20
> Ugh.
>=20
>> A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private =
trees, don't we. ;)
>=20
> This is going to go poorly, if previous attempts to update to 1.1 are =
any indication.
With PHP 5.6 axed prematurely a while back I am interested to see =
OpenSSL 1.0.2
phased out now with a number of ports still not supporting 1.1.1 and =
seeing them
marked as broken sooner or later.
With all this in mind, I'm surprised Python did not suffer the same fate
and was deprecate-extended to the end of 2020 in the ports tree which is =
an
unusual 180 regarding previous arguments that having expired ports still
supported is "too much work".
Happy new year,
Franco
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>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On 1. Jan 2020, at 9:42 PM, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:40, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> =
wrote:
>>> security/openssl was removed before, now security/openssl111 has =
become security/openssl.
>>=20
>> Ugh.
>>=20
>>> A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private =
trees, don't we. ;)
>>=20
>> This is going to go poorly, if previous attempts to update to 1.1 are =
any indication.
>=20
> With PHP 5.6 axed prematurely a while back I am interested to see =
OpenSSL 1.0.2
> phased out now with a number of ports still not supporting 1.1.1 and =
seeing them
> marked as broken sooner or later.
Well, at this point I cannot install openssl111 without deinstalling =
openssl, which I cannot deinstall since it is gone from ports.
Looks like I have to remove openssl, which =E2=80=A6 I mean, seriously, =
this seems pretty hostile.
Name : openssl
Version : 1.0.2u,1
Installed on : Sun Dec 22 08:13:27 2019 MST
There was nothing at all on the 22nd about =E2=80=9CWARNING THIS WILL =
BREAK EVERYTHING IN A WEEK=E2=80=9D which to mean seems like it should =
have been made super obvious.
--=20
There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand
binary and those who don=E2=80=99t.
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From: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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Subject: mail/junkfilter is several broken
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For users of mail/junkfilter, it now will filter all emails claiming
a "Bad Date line". The following patch seems to fix the problem for
the next decade.
--- junkfilter.three.orig 2020-01-01 12:59:56.005681000 -0800
+++ junkfilter.three 2020-01-01 13:00:26.254199000 -0800
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
* ! $ ^Date:$JFWS((Sun|Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat),$JFWS)?\
(0?[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])$JFWS\
(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)$JFWS\
- ((19)?[789][0-9]|(20)?[01][0-9])$JFWS\
+ ((19)?[789][0-9]|(20)?[012][0-9])$JFWS\
(0?[0-9]|1[0-9]|2[0-3]):(0?|[1-5])[0-9](:(0?|[1-5])[0-9])?$JFWS\
(([+-][0-1][0-4]([03]0|45))|("?\(?(UT|GMT|EST|EDT|CST|CDT|MST|MDT|PST|PDT|[A-I]|[K-Z])\)?"?))?
{ JFMATCH="$JFSEC: Bad Date line" INCLUDERC=$JFDIR/junkfilter.match }
Suggest either installing the patch or marking the port as broken.
--
Steve
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On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>
> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:46, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 1. Jan 2020, at 9:42 PM, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:40, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> wrote=
:
> >>> security/openssl was removed before, now security/openssl111 has beco=
me security/openssl.
> >>
> >> Ugh.
> >>
> >>> A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private tree=
s, don't we. ;)
> >>
> >> This is going to go poorly, if previous attempts to update to 1.1 are =
any indication.
> >
> > With PHP 5.6 axed prematurely a while back I am interested to see OpenS=
SL 1.0.2
> > phased out now with a number of ports still not supporting 1.1.1 and se=
eing them
> > marked as broken sooner or later.
>
> Well, at this point I cannot install openssl111 without deinstalling open=
ssl, which I cannot deinstall since it is gone from ports.
>
> Looks like I have to remove openssl, which =E2=80=A6 I mean, seriously, t=
his seems pretty hostile.
>
> Name : openssl
> Version : 1.0.2u,1
> Installed on : Sun Dec 22 08:13:27 2019 MST
>
> There was nothing at all on the 22nd about =E2=80=9CWARNING THIS WILL BRE=
AK EVERYTHING IN A WEEK=E2=80=9D which to mean seems like it should have be=
en made super obvious.
This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere. There seems to
be a pervasive misconception that poudriere is "advanced" and
portmaster is simple or straightforward. That notion is completely and
totally backwards. Poudriere makes managing ports as simple and
trouble-free as possible, and portmaster is specifically for people
who can troubleshoot and fix problems like the one you're describing
on their own. These problems WILL continue to happen very regularly
for portmaster, because portmaster simply cannot do the right thing on
its own. It will ALWAYS require manual intervention every time
anything remotely significant changes.
I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about
encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted)
frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will
be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere. If you choose
to stay on portmaster, however, then you need to check the resentment
about build failures. They are simply an inevitable consequence of
using a very old and broken tool that should only be used by people
with substantial port-handling experience.
You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
# Adam
--=20
Adam Weinberger
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Hi Adam,
> On 1. Jan 2020, at 10:18 PM, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:46, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On 1. Jan 2020, at 9:42 PM, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:40, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> =
wrote:
>>>>> security/openssl was removed before, now security/openssl111 has =
become security/openssl.
>>>>=20
>>>> Ugh.
>>>>=20
>>>>> A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private =
trees, don't we. ;)
>>>>=20
>>>> This is going to go poorly, if previous attempts to update to 1.1 =
are any indication.
>>>=20
>>> With PHP 5.6 axed prematurely a while back I am interested to see =
OpenSSL 1.0.2
>>> phased out now with a number of ports still not supporting 1.1.1 and =
seeing them
>>> marked as broken sooner or later.
>>=20
>> Well, at this point I cannot install openssl111 without deinstalling =
openssl, which I cannot deinstall since it is gone from ports.
>>=20
>> Looks like I have to remove openssl, which =E2=80=A6 I mean, =
seriously, this seems pretty hostile.
>>=20
>> Name : openssl
>> Version : 1.0.2u,1
>> Installed on : Sun Dec 22 08:13:27 2019 MST
>>=20
>> There was nothing at all on the 22nd about =E2=80=9CWARNING THIS WILL =
BREAK EVERYTHING IN A WEEK=E2=80=9D which to mean seems like it should =
have been made super obvious.
>=20
> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere.
Let me stop you right here and say: ports Framework itself is
suffering from this wishful attitude and this has nothing to do
with readily available poudriere "replacements" which are not
as good as poudriere for sure.
If the ports framework isn't seen as a stand alone infrastructure
worth its own integrity the discussion is already dead and the
quality will keep to decline for every casual FreeBSD user who
doesn't really care for this or that tool, but wants to install
software from the ports tree manually.
Cheers,
Franco=
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From: Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
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Subject: Re: Portmaster failing
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 14:40:10 -0700
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On Jan 1, 2020, at 14:23, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFHi Adam,
>=20
>> On 1. Jan 2020, at 10:18 PM, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:46, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On 1. Jan 2020, at 9:42 PM, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:40, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> wrote=
:
>>>>>> security/openssl was removed before, now security/openssl111 has beco=
me security/openssl.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Ugh.
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private tree=
s, don't we. ;)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This is going to go poorly, if previous attempts to update to 1.1 are a=
ny indication.
>>>>=20
>>>> With PHP 5.6 axed prematurely a while back I am interested to see OpenS=
SL 1.0.2
>>>> phased out now with a number of ports still not supporting 1.1.1 and se=
eing them
>>>> marked as broken sooner or later.
>>>=20
>>> Well, at this point I cannot install openssl111 without deinstalling ope=
nssl, which I cannot deinstall since it is gone from ports.
>>>=20
>>> Looks like I have to remove openssl, which =E2=80=A6 I mean, seriously, t=
his seems pretty hostile.
>>>=20
>>> Name : openssl
>>> Version : 1.0.2u,1
>>> Installed on : Sun Dec 22 08:13:27 2019 MST
>>>=20
>>> There was nothing at all on the 22nd about =E2=80=9CWARNING THIS WILL BR=
EAK EVERYTHING IN A WEEK=E2=80=9D which to mean seems like it should have be=
en made super obvious.
>>=20
>> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere.
>=20
> Let me stop you right here and say: ports Framework itself is
> suffering from this wishful attitude and this has nothing to do
> with readily available poudriere "replacements" which are not
> as good as poudriere for sure.
>=20
> If the ports framework isn't seen as a stand alone infrastructure
> worth its own integrity the discussion is already dead and the
> quality will keep to decline for every casual FreeBSD user who
> doesn't really care for this or that tool, but wants to install
> software from the ports tree manually.
>=20
>=20
> Cheers,
> Franco
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. The ports tree has grown to=
o complex for a simple =E2=80=9Cmake install=E2=80=9D to be a predictable pr=
ocess. What we have now is a major usability problem wherein we have a large=
handful of tools, all but one of which are essentially broken. We do need a=
new approach to this problem.=20
# Adam
=E2=80=94
Adam Weinberger
adamw@adamw.org
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On 2020-01-01 16:23, Franco Fichtner wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>=20
>> On 1. Jan 2020, at 10:18 PM, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere.
>=20
> Let me stop you right here and say: ports Framework itself is
> suffering from this wishful attitude
PLUS UMPTEEN*!!!
> and this has nothing to do
> with readily available poudriere "replacements" which are not
> as good as poudriere for sure.
Assuming you can get poudriere to work. Even by today's standards,
a low-cost PC is not going to have the juice to support it. And to
reiterate, the ports framework itself MUST work standalone.
> If the ports framework isn't seen as a stand alone infrastructure
> worth its own integrity the discussion is already dead and the
> quality will keep to decline for every casual FreeBSD user who
> doesn't really care for this or that tool, but wants to install
> software from the ports tree manually.
> [...]
-- George
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## @lbutlr (kremels@kreme.com):
> I have /usr/ports/security/openssl111 and no /usr/ports/security/openssl which doesn’t sound like what you said.
You're missing
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&sortby=date&revision=521745
By the way, base openssl is at 1.1.1d in FreeBSD 12.1.
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## George Mitchell (george+freebsd@m5p.com):
> Assuming you can get poudriere to work. Even by today's standards,
> a low-cost PC is not going to have the juice to support it. And to
> reiterate, the ports framework itself MUST work standalone.
The pain you'll experience (eventually) from the breakage resulting
from just ol' plain "make install"s is much worse than running poudriere.
Most non-trivial software will not build predictably in an unclean
environment, and forget about keeping it working when your environment
changes (the time I've spent chasing shared library problems... that's
time I'll never get back). (Note that I'm not talking about reproducable
builds, which is yet another can of worms).
If you can't build with poudriere locally, you should look into renting
CPU time ("cloud" as they call it these days) or use packages.
Regards,
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On 01 Jan 2020, at 14:18, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote
> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere.=20
If FreeBSD is going to REQUIRE poudriere, then go ahead and do so. If =
not, then the other packages managers and the ports tree itself have to =
work without screwing the admin, failing to build for inexplicable =
reasons, inputting a dependency that breaks other packages, or my =
favorite, failing to update dependencies.
> I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about
> encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted)
> frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will
> be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere.
It is not that simple, of course. This will take quite a lot of work, =
and a lot of time, for something that I deal with a handful of times a =
year. This means that for the foreseeable future, I would be starting =
over basically every time there is some issue.
> They are simply an inevitable consequence of using a very old and =
broken tool
If the tool is broken, remove it.
> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
Since openssl updated about a week ago, this oversight falls into the =
class that I would call =E2=80=9Cinexcusable=E2=80=9D. If I did this on =
a job I would (rightly) be immediately fired.
I would fire me if I did something like this.
--=20
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world appear weird. Now the
world is weird and people take Prozac to make it appear normal.
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Hi!
> If FreeBSD is going to REQUIRE poudriere, then go ahead and do
> so. If not, then the other packages managers and the ports tree
> itself have to work without screwing the admin, failing to build
> for inexplicable reasons, inputting a dependency that breaks other
> packages, or my favorite, failing to update dependencies.
If we'd remove portmaster, we'd loose a relevant part of our
user-base, that's why is has not been removed. This caused
other issues, as you are well aware.
But there's no easy solution given the amount of volunteer skills
and capacity available, see below.
> > I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about
> > encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted)
> > frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will
> > be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere.
>
> It is not that simple, of course. This will take quite a lot of work, and a lot of time, for something that I deal with a handful of times a year. This means that for the foreseeable future, I would be starting over basically every time there is some issue.
>
> > They are simply an inevitable consequence of using a very old and broken tool
>
> If the tool is broken, remove it.
For example: FreeBSD uses mailman2 for lists.freebsd.org, which needs
python 2.7, which, as far as the python community is involved,
is no longer supported.
The open source community (and FreeBSD) really has problems with
the velocity of the software involved -- and can barely keep up.
So it's not that easy.
> > You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
> > mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
> > security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
>
> Since openssl updated about a week ago, this oversight falls into the class that I would call ???inexcusable???. If I did this on a job I would (rightly) be immediately fired.
>
> I would fire me if I did something like this.
If we fired every volunteer when some mishap has happened, we
would run of of volunteers very fast.
--
pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ?
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On 01 Jan 2020, at 15:28, Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> If FreeBSD is going to REQUIRE poudriere, then go ahead and do
>> so. If not, then the other packages managers and the ports tree
>> itself have to work without screwing the admin, failing to build
>> for inexplicable reasons, inputting a dependency that breaks other
>> packages, or my favorite, failing to update dependencies.
>=20
> If we'd remove portmaster, we'd loose a relevant part of our
> user-base, that's why is has not been removed. This caused
> other issues, as you are well aware.
If you are concerned about losing users without postmaster then fix =
postmaster. Leaving a port manage that is =E2=80=9Cbroken=E2=80=9D is =
not going to do anything but hurt everyone.
> The open source community (and FreeBSD) really has problems with
> the velocity of the software involved -- and can barely keep up.
>=20
> So it's not that easy.
Bit they are perfectly happy to drop support when the replacement =
packages are still not up to snuff.
>>> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
>>> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
>>> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this =
switch.
>>=20
>> Since openssl updated about a week ago, this oversight falls into the =
class that I would call ???inexcusable???. If I did this on a job I =
would (rightly) be immediately fired.
>>=20
>> I would fire me if I did something like this.
> If we fired every volunteer when some mishap has happened, we
> would run of of volunteers very fast.
This was the responsibility of a single volunteer? Removing openssl =
without warning wasn=E2=80=99t something that was discussed over the =
last six months?
--=20
Lead me not into temptation, I can find the way.
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> On Jan 1, 2020, at 15:49, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>=20
>>>> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
>>>> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
>>>> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
>>>=20
>>> Since openssl updated about a week ago, this oversight falls into the cl=
ass that I would call ???inexcusable???. If I did this on a job I would (rig=
htly) be immediately fired.
>>>=20
>>> I would fire me if I did something like this.
>=20
>> If we fired every volunteer when some mishap has happened, we
>> would run of of volunteers very fast.
>=20
> This was the responsibility of a single volunteer? Removing openssl withou=
t warning wasn=E2=80=99t something that was discussed over the last six mont=
hs?
Ok, let=E2=80=99s stop there. Nobody is going to get fired, and insulting ou=
r team of volunteers who worked incredibly hard to bring the openssl switch t=
o fruition is unproductive and uncalled-for. I already acknowledged that we n=
eed to do it better next time, so let=E2=80=99s focus instead on solving pro=
blems rather than lashing out to people who are here simply to help.
# Adam
=E2=80=94
Adam Weinberger
adamw@adamw.org
https://www.adamw.org=
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> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere. There seems to
> be a pervasive misconception that poudriere is "advanced" and
> portmaster is simple or straightforward. That notion is completely and
> totally backwards. Poudriere makes managing ports as simple and
> trouble-free as possible, and portmaster is specifically for people
> who can troubleshoot and fix problems like the one you're describing
> on their own. These problems WILL continue to happen very regularly
> for portmaster, because portmaster simply cannot do the right thing on
> its own. It will ALWAYS require manual intervention every time
> anything remotely significant changes.
> I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about
> encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted)
> frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will
> be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere. If you choose
> to stay on portmaster, however, then you need to check the resentment
> about build failures. They are simply an inevitable consequence of
> using a very old and broken tool that should only be used by people
> with substantial port-handling experience.
> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
> Adam Weinberger
I suppose what you say about portmaster applies equally to portupgrade?
I get the impression that synth and its dependency gcc6-aux are falling into desuetude if not actually officially deprecated.
gcc6-aux has not been updated while gcc is up tp 8.3 and 9.2.
I have never used poudriere, guess I will have to learn how if I stay with FreeBSD.
NetBSD pkgsrc also has its problems: has been ported to many other mostly (quasi-)Unix OSes including FreeBSD, but I never tried pkgsrcc outside NetBSD, don't think I really want to.
DragonFlyBSD switched from pkgsrc to dports, and Haiku switched from pkgsrc to Haikuports.
Upgrading a large number of ports with portmaster usually required many runs, correcting the errors after each run, waiting for updates for broken ports.
Tom
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> Portmaser -L errors out with
>
> make: "/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk" line 97: You are using an unsupported SSL provider openssl
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> Make.conf:
> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl apache=2.4 php=7.2 perl5=5.28 mysql=10.1m
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> Worked fine on Saturday, maybe Friday.
>
>
>
Tracked earlier and resolved here:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243014
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> Ok, let=E2=80=99s stop there. Nobody is going to get fired, and =
insulting
What?
No, seriously, what?
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On 01/01/2020 22:03, George Mitchell wrote:
> Assuming you can get poudriere to work. Even by today's standards,
> a low-cost PC is not going to have the juice to support it. And to
> reiterate, the ports framework itself MUST work standalone.
Rubbish. I maintain my own poudriere repo on a machine that is over 6
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Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> For example: FreeBSD uses mailman2 for lists.freebsd.org, which needs
> python 2.7, which, as far as the python community is involved,
> is no longer supported.
>=20
py27-backports-1 =20
py27-backports.functools_lru_cache-1.5=20
py27-backports_abc-0.5
py27-cairo-1.18.1_1 =20
py27-cython-0.29.13_1 =20
py27-dateutil-2.8.0 =20
py27-futures-3.2.0 =20
py27-gobject-2.28.6_8
py27-gtk2-2.24.0_5 =20
py27-html5lib-1.0.1 =20
py27-isodate-0.6.0 =20
py27-kiwisolver-1.1.0
py27-lxml-4.4.2 =20
py27-matplotlib-2.2.4_1 =20
py27-numpy-1.16.5_2,1 =20
py27-pygments-2.4.1 =20
py27-pyparsing-2.4.6 =20
py27-pytz-2019.3,1 =20
py27-scour-0.37 =20
py27-setuptools-41.4.0_1 =20
py27-setuptools_scm-3.3.3 =20
py27-singledispatch-3.4.0.3_1 =20
py27-sip-4.19.19_1,1
py27-six-1.12.0
py27-tkinter-2.7.17_6
py27-tornado-5.1.1
py27-webencodings-0.5.1
For example:
pkg info -r py27-numpy
py27-numpy-1.16.5_2,1:
py27-matplotlib-2.2.4_1
inkscape-0.92.4_12
root@lumiwa:~# pkg info -d py27-numpy
py27-numpy-1.16.5_2,1:
suitesparse-5.4.0_4
lapack-3.5.0_8
cblas-1.0_12
blas-3.5.0_6
python27-2.7.17_1
gcc9-9.2.0
py27-setuptools-41.4.0_1
pkg info -r py37-numpy
py37-numpy-1.16.5_2,1:
blender-2.80_6
py37-spyder-3.2.7_7
py37-pandas-0.24.2_1,1
py37-scipy-1.2.2_1
py37-numexpr-2.7.0
py37-bottleneck-1.3.1
py37-matplotlib-2.2.4_1
root@lumiwa:~# pkg info -d py37-numpy
py37-numpy-1.16.5_2,1:
suitesparse-5.4.0_4
lapack-3.5.0_8
cblas-1.0_12
blas-3.5.0_6
python37-3.7.6
gcc9-9.2.0
py37-setuptools-41.4.0_1
And how long is python 27 deprecated?
I am portmaster user too because I have a single FreeBSD machine and I
do not want to destroying hard drive with poudriere.
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=E2=80=9Cgood people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while
bad people will find a way around the laws=E2=80=9D=20
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Am 01.01.20 um 22:04 schrieb Steve Kargl:
> For users of mail/junkfilter, it now will filter all emails claiming
> a "Bad Date line". The following patch seems to fix the problem for
> the next decade.
Hi Steve,
thank you for providing a patch. Since the maintainer (gsutter) has
not been active in FreeBSD for a long time (AFAICT) and due to the
difference in time zones, I have taken liberty to apply the fix to
the port.
I have sent mail to Gregory who probably will want to apply the fix
to the sourceforge repo and to remove the patch, but the fixed port
will allow to keep junkfilter working, meanwhile.
Regards, STefan
> --- junkfilter.three.orig 2020-01-01 12:59:56.005681000 -0800
> +++ junkfilter.three 2020-01-01 13:00:26.254199000 -0800
> @@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
> * ! $ ^Date:$JFWS((Sun|Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat),$JFWS)?\
> (0?[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])$JFWS\
> (Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)$JFWS\
> - ((19)?[789][0-9]|(20)?[01][0-9])$JFWS\
> + ((19)?[789][0-9]|(20)?[012][0-9])$JFWS\
> (0?[0-9]|1[0-9]|2[0-3]):(0?|[1-5])[0-9](:(0?|[1-5])[0-9])?$JFWS\
> (([+-][0-1][0-4]([03]0|45))|("?\(?(UT|GMT|EST|EDT|CST|CDT|MST|MDT|PST|PDT|[A-I]|[K-Z])\)?"?))?
> { JFMATCH="$JFSEC: Bad Date line" INCLUDERC=$JFDIR/junkfilter.match }
>
>
> Suggest either installing the patch or marking the port as broken.
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"Thomas Mueller" <mueller6722@twc.com> writes:
>> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere. There seems to
>> be a pervasive misconception that poudriere is "advanced" and
>> portmaster is simple or straightforward. That notion is completely and
>> totally backwards. Poudriere makes managing ports as simple and
>> trouble-free as possible, and portmaster is specifically for people
>> who can troubleshoot and fix problems like the one you're describing
>> on their own. These problems WILL continue to happen very regularly
>> for portmaster, because portmaster simply cannot do the right thing on
>> its own. It will ALWAYS require manual intervention every time
>> anything remotely significant changes.
>
>> I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about
>> encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted)
>> frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will
>> be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere. If you choose
>> to stay on portmaster, however, then you need to check the resentment
>> about build failures. They are simply an inevitable consequence of
>> using a very old and broken tool that should only be used by people
>> with substantial port-handling experience.
>
>> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
>> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
>> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
>
>
>> Adam Weinberger
>
> I suppose what you say about portmaster applies equally to portupgrade?
>
> I get the impression that synth and its dependency gcc6-aux are falling into desuetude if not actually officially deprecated.
>
> gcc6-aux has not been updated while gcc is up tp 8.3 and 9.2.
DragonFly has lang/gcc9-aux since https://github.com/DragonFlyBSD/DeltaPorts/commit/bb774aced6d7
Synth is still used to build binary packages on DragonFly e.g.,
https://sting.dragonflybsd.org/dports/logs/lang___gcc9-aux.log
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On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:56 PM Thomas Mueller <mueller6722@twc.com> wrote:
>
>
> > This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere. There seems to
> > be a pervasive misconception that poudriere is "advanced" and
> > portmaster is simple or straightforward. That notion is completely and
> > totally backwards. Poudriere makes managing ports as simple and
> > trouble-free as possible, and portmaster is specifically for people
> > who can troubleshoot and fix problems like the one you're describing
> > on their own. These problems WILL continue to happen very regularly
> > for portmaster, because portmaster simply cannot do the right thing on
> > its own. It will ALWAYS require manual intervention every time
> > anything remotely significant changes.
>
> > I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about
> > encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted)
> > frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will
> > be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere. If you choose
> > to stay on portmaster, however, then you need to check the resentment
> > about build failures. They are simply an inevitable consequence of
> > using a very old and broken tool that should only be used by people
> > with substantial port-handling experience.
>
> > You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
> > mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
> > security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
>
>
> > Adam Weinberger
>
> I suppose what you say about portmaster applies equally to portupgrade?
>
> I get the impression that synth and its dependency gcc6-aux are falling into desuetude if not actually officially deprecated.
>
> gcc6-aux has not been updated while gcc is up tp 8.3 and 9.2.
>
> I have never used poudriere, guess I will have to learn how if I stay with FreeBSD.
>
> NetBSD pkgsrc also has its problems: has been ported to many other mostly (quasi-)Unix OSes including FreeBSD, but I never tried pkgsrcc outside NetBSD, don't think I really want to.
>
> DragonFlyBSD switched from pkgsrc to dports, and Haiku switched from pkgsrc to Haikuports.
>
> Upgrading a large number of ports with portmaster usually required many runs, correcting the errors after each run, waiting for updates for broken ports.
Unequally, actually. portmaster still has some developers putting in
the hard work to keep it running. portupgrade hasn't had much focused
development in many years and should probably be removed from the
tree. There are some problems with building on a live system that
portmaster can't ever truly alleviate, but it certainly works (when
used by people experienced in handling fallout). portupgrade is just a
system-mangling disaster waiting to happen.
# Adam
--
Adam Weinberger
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On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 12:22:20PM +0100, Stefan Eßer wrote:
> Am 01.01.20 um 22:04 schrieb Steve Kargl:
> > For users of mail/junkfilter, it now will filter all emails claiming
> > a "Bad Date line". The following patch seems to fix the problem for
> > the next decade.
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> thank you for providing a patch. Since the maintainer (gsutter) has
> not been active in FreeBSD for a long time (AFAICT) and due to the
> difference in time zones, I have taken liberty to apply the fix to
> the port.
>
> I have sent mail to Gregory who probably will want to apply the fix
> to the sourceforge repo and to remove the patch, but the fixed port
> will allow to keep junkfilter working, meanwhile.
>
Thanks for the quick response. I could not tell from the SF
page whether junkfilter was still being maintained or not.
I find junkfilter to be a handy way to deal with email, but
having everything flagged as spam was a little too much.
--
Steve
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Not sure if the top part of this is relevant:
-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> REST support is ON
CMake Warning at storage/connect/CMakeLists.txt:326 (FIND_PACKAGE):
By not providing "Findcpprestsdk.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this =
project
has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by
"cpprestsdk", but CMake did not find one.
Could not find a package configuration file provided by "cpprestsdk" =
with
any of the following names:
cpprestsdkConfig.cmake
cpprestsdk-config.cmake
Add the installation prefix of "cpprestsdk" to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH or =
set
"cpprestsdk_DIR" to a directory containing one of the above files. If
"cpprestsdk" provides a separate development package or SDK, be sure =
it has
been installed.
-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> cpprestsdk package not found
-- Looking for include file lz4.h
-- Looking for include file lz4.h - found
-- Looking for LZ4_compress_limitedOutput in lz4
-- Looking for LZ4_compress_limitedOutput in lz4 - not found
-- Looking for LZ4_compress_default in lz4
-- Looking for LZ4_compress_default in lz4 - not found
CMake Error at cmake/lz4.cmake:31 (MESSAGE):
Required lz4 library is not found
Call Stack (most recent call first):
storage/innobase/CMakeLists.txt:28 (MYSQL_CHECK_LZ4)
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also =
"/usr/ports/databases/mariadb101-server/work/mariadb-10.1.43/CMakeFiles/CM=
akeOutput.log".
See also =
"/usr/ports/databases/mariadb101-server/work/mariadb-10.1.43/CMakeFiles/CM=
akeError.log".
*** Error code 1
=F0=9F=91=B9 # portmaster -l | grep -i lz4
=3D=3D=3D>>> liblz4-1.9.2,1
=3D=3D=3D>>> p5-Compress-LZ4-0.25
I=E2=80=99ve rebuilt cmake, though it was already built today. LZ3 =
always was rebuilt.
I can build MariaDB if I disable lz4 AND lzo. The error log above =
(=E2=80=9CSee also=E2=80=9D) was overwritten when I rebuilt without lz4, =
so I don=E2=80=99t have it.
--=20
Women like silent men, they think they're listening.
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FYI,
the recent renaming of security/openssl111 to security/openssl breaks =
security/ipsec-tools.
Have a look at https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D232169 =
for details.
Regards,
Michael
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Hi!
> the recent renaming of security/openssl111 to security/openssl breaks security/ipsec-tools.
>
> Have a look at https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=232169 for details.
Any reason you attach a patch to a closed/fix bug from Feb. 2019 ?
This is a sure way to loose track of it...
--
pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ?
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Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> the recent renaming of security/openssl111 to security/openssl breaks =
security/ipsec-tools.
>>=20
>> Have a look at =
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D232169 for details.
>=20
> Any reason you attach a patch to a closed/fix bug from Feb. 2019 ?
I am not very familiar with bugzilla. I believed, that this would reopen =
the old bug with my old patch.
> This is a sure way to loose track of it=E2=80=A6
Should I file a new bug report?=20
Ups, just realised that you reopened bug 232169.
Thanks and regards,
Michael
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Hi,
I am running ipsec-tools to implement a VPN tunnel (esp) between two =
hosts for years now.
But this statement on http://ipsec-tools.sourceforge.net makes me think =
about an alternative:
The development of ipsec-tools has been ABANDONED.=20
ipsec-tools has security issues, and you should not use it. =
Please switch to a secure alternative!=20
Could you provide me with links where I could find more details about =
the above mentioned 'security issues'? I want to find out, if my =
specific setup has security issues at all. Thanks.
What would be a secure alternative if one is needed?=20
#) security/racoon2
#) security/strongswan
#) something else?
What do I need?
#) a VPN tunnel between two hosts
#) both local networks reachable from the remote host
Thanks and regards,
Michael
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Hi!
> What would be a secure alternative if one is needed?
> #) security/racoon2
> #) security/strongswan
This is also ipsec based.
> #) something else?
openvpn or wireguard
--
pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ?
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> Unequally, actually. portmaster still has some developers putting in
> the hard work to keep it running. portupgrade hasn't had much focused
> development in many years and should probably be removed from the
> tree. There are some problems with building on a live system that
> portmaster can't ever truly alleviate, but it certainly works (when
> used by people experienced in handling fallout). portupgrade is just a
> system-mangling disaster waiting to happen.
> Adam Weinberger
I suppose what you say about portmaster applies equally to portupgrade? (from my previous post)
I am strongly advised to heed your advice on portupgrade.
It seemed to work fairly well, once upon a time, but even then it was necessary to run "pkgdb -F".
I looked in the FreeBSD Handbook online, found poudriere.
I even ran "make all-depends-list | more" from my FreeBSD installation, found surprisingly few dependencies, wish there were a good way to configure options without dialog4ports.
Still, dialog4ports was an improvement over the old dialog, which always messed my screen when I kept a log file.
Speaking of system-mangling disaster, NetBSD pkgsrc with pkg_rolling-replace can do that, I am typing this on such a system.
from Jan Beich:
> DragonFly has lang/gcc9-aux since https://github.com/DragonFlyBSD/DeltaPorts/commit/bb774aced6d7
> Synth is still used to build binary packages on DragonFly e.g.,
> https://sting.dragonflybsd.org/dports/logs/lang___gcc9-aux.log
I looked on gitweb.dragonflybsd.org, found gcc9-aux, but no gcc7-aux or gcc8-aux, and no gccn-aux on dragonlace.net where n > 6.
DragonFly uses git for src and dports trees, in contrast to FreeBSD which uses svn, and NetBSD and OpenBSD which use cvs.
Possibly I could try to create my own gcc(7 or 8)-aux on FreeBSD or NetBSD, or cross-compile for Linux. I would follow instructions on software.gnu.org or gcc.gnu.org .
Tom
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On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 02:50:04PM +0100, Jan Beich wrote:
> "Thomas Mueller" <mueller6722@twc.com> writes:
>=20
> >> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere. There seems to
> >> be a pervasive misconception that poudriere is "advanced" and
> >> portmaster is simple or straightforward. That notion is completely and
> >> totally backwards. Poudriere makes managing ports as simple and
> >> trouble-free as possible, and portmaster is specifically for people
> >> who can troubleshoot and fix problems like the one you're describing
> >> on their own. These problems WILL continue to happen very regularly
> >> for portmaster, because portmaster simply cannot do the right thing on
> >> its own. It will ALWAYS require manual intervention every time
> >> anything remotely significant changes.
> >
> >> I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about
> >> encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted)
> >> frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will
> >> be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere. If you choose
> >> to stay on portmaster, however, then you need to check the resentment
> >> about build failures. They are simply an inevitable consequence of
> >> using a very old and broken tool that should only be used by people
> >> with substantial port-handling experience.
> >
> >> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major
> >> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and
> >> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch.
> >
> >
> >> Adam Weinberger
> >
> > I suppose what you say about portmaster applies equally to portupgrade?
> >
> > I get the impression that synth and its dependency gcc6-aux are falling=
into desuetude if not actually officially deprecated.
> >
> > gcc6-aux has not been updated while gcc is up tp 8.3 and 9.2.
>=20
> DragonFly has lang/gcc9-aux since https://github.com/DragonFlyBSD/DeltaPo=
rts/commit/bb774aced6d7
> Synth is still used to build binary packages on DragonFly e.g.,
> https://sting.dragonflybsd.org/dports/logs/lang___gcc9-aux.log
And is phase to be replaced by dsynth in there (rewrite in C by dillon@)
Best regards,
Bapt
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This is the possible culprit from their git per Tim's analysis, I'm
unable to check a specimen of the distfile with the incorrect signature as
it is unavailable and the original was not built from the
gerbv-2-7-RELEASE tag.
https://github.com/agokhale/gerbv-git/commit/f9df7f32d7ee60988b5608ae7f0faee60e906591
commit f9df7f32d7ee60988b5608ae7f0faee60e906591
Author: Sergey Alyoshin <alyoshin.s@gmail.com>
Date: Mon Dec 17 21:02:01 2018 +0300
Update README-cvs.txt to README-git.txt
I'm not sure what there is to do here except accept the changes or let this
port go.
I've canned a version of the port that works for me(tm), and gone over the
recent commit history for obviously
untoward behaviour.
https://github.com/agokhale/freebsd-ports-cad-gerbv
I've also created a readonly copy of the whole distro to browse it as the
source git is a bit unfriendly.
https://github.com/agokhale/gerbv-git
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:24 AM Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 6:13 AM Tim Rice <tim@xinuos.com> wrote:
> > How about checking the git log and doing a git diff.
> > git clone git://git.geda-project.org/gerbv.git
> >
> > Looks like README-cvs.txt was pulled and README-git.txt added.
>
> That should also work. Ash, Could you also check these?
>
> Thanks,
> Li-Wen
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I should just write this as it looks very straight-forward but I'm lazy and
hate reinventing wheels.
On my development system I build from ports. An on-going issue is that
ports frequently change options from non-default to default and I never see
the change. The result is that every now and then a port won't build due to
a change or a port runs with reduced capabilities or performance when a new
option becomes the standard.
Looking at the DEFAULT_OPTIONS in the port Makefile and comparing them with
saved config is trivial and I suspect a tool for this has probably been
written several times.
Thanks!
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