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Sat, 28 Dec 2019 21:46:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Clay Daniels Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:46:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Reading nvram efi variables To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47lqLF5lcxz48qj X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=pKvhrnom; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of claydanielsjr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::12e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claydanielsjr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.97), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.64), asn: 15169(-1.88), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 05:46:15 -0000 The efivar command will list efi variables using: # efivar -l ~ 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-dbxDefault 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-dbDefault 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-KEKDefault 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-PKDefault ~ (There are a lot more but these secure boot keys are the ones of interest to me) I can write them to a file with: # efivar -n 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-dbxDefault > dbx I can sort of read it with hexdump: root@bsd13:/bootkeys # hexdump -C dbx 00000000 38 62 65 34 64 66 36 31 2d 39 33 63 61 2d 31 31 |8be4df61-93ca-11| 00000010 64 32 2d 61 61 30 64 2d 30 30 65 30 39 38 30 33 |d2-aa0d-00e09803| 00000020 32 62 38 63 2d 64 62 78 44 65 66 61 75 6c 74 0a |2b8c-dbxDefault.| 00000030 30 30 30 30 3a 20 32 36 20 31 36 20 63 34 20 63 |0000: 26 16 c4 c| 00000040 31 20 34 63 20 35 30 20 39 32 20 34 30 20 61 63 |1 4c 50 92 40 ac| 00000050 20 61 39 20 34 31 20 66 39 20 33 36 20 39 33 20 | a9 41 f9 36 93 | 00000060 34 33 20 32 38 20 0a 30 30 31 30 3a 20 38 63 20 |43 28 .0010: 8c | 00000070 30 65 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 |0e 00 00 00 00 0| 00000080 30 20 30 30 20 33 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 |0 00 30 00 00 00| 00000090 20 62 64 20 39 61 20 66 61 20 37 37 20 0a 30 30 | bd 9a fa 77 .00| 000000a0 32 30 3a 20 35 39 20 30 33 20 33 32 20 34 64 20 |20: 59 03 32 4d | 000000b0 62 64 20 36 30 20 32 38 20 66 34 20 65 37 20 38 |bd 60 28 f4 e7 8| 000000c0 66 20 37 38 20 34 62 20 38 30 20 62 34 20 64 39 |f 78 4b 80 b4 d9| 000000d0 20 36 39 20 0a 30 30 33 30 3a 20 33 31 20 62 66 | 69 .0030: 31 bf| 000000e0 20 30 64 20 30 32 20 66 64 20 39 31 20 61 36 20 | 0d 02 fd 91 a6 | 000000f0 31 65 20 31 39 20 64 31 20 34 66 20 31 64 20 61 |1e 19 d1 4f 1d a| 00000100 34 20 35 32 20 65 36 20 36 64 20 0a 30 30 34 30 |4 52 e6 6d .0040| 00000110 3a 20 62 32 20 34 30 20 38 63 20 61 38 20 36 30 |: b2 40 8c a8 60| 00000120 20 34 64 20 34 31 20 31 66 20 39 32 20 36 35 20 | 4d 41 1f 92 65 | 00000130 39 66 20 30 61 20 62 64 20 39 61 20 66 61 20 37 |9f 0a bd 9a fa 7| 00000140 37 20 0a 30 30 35 30 3a 20 35 39 20 30 33 20 33 |7 .0050: 59 03 3| 00000150 32 20 34 64 20 62 64 20 36 30 20 32 38 20 66 34 |2 4d bd 60 28 f4| 00000160 20 65 37 20 38 66 20 37 38 20 34 62 20 66 35 20 | e7 8f 78 4b f5 | 00000170 32 66 20 38 33 20 61 33 20 0a 30 30 36 30 3a 20 |2f 83 a3 .0060: | 00000180 66 61 20 39 63 20 66 62 20 64 36 20 39 32 20 30 |fa 9c fb d6 92 0| 00000190 66 20 37 32 20 32 38 20 32 34 20 64 62 20 65 34 |f 72 28 24 db e4| 000001a0 20 30 33 20 34 35 20 33 34 20 64 32 20 35 62 20 | 03 45 34 d2 5b | 000001b0 0a 30 30 37 30 3a 20 38 35 20 30 37 20 32 34 20 |.0070: 85 07 24 | 000001c0 36 62 20 33 62 20 39 35 20 37 64 20 61 63 20 36 |6b 3b 95 7d ac 6| 000001d0 65 20 31 62 20 63 65 20 37 61 20 62 64 20 39 61 |e 1b ce 7a bd 9a| 000001e0 20 66 61 20 37 37 20 0a 30 30 38 30 3a 20 35 39 | fa 77 .0080: 59| 000001f0 20 30 33 20 33 32 20 34 64 20 62 64 20 36 30 20 | 03 32 4d bd 60 | 00000200 32 38 20 66 34 20 65 37 20 38 66 20 37 38 20 34 |28 f4 e7 8f 78 4| ~ 00003300 63 20 37 38 20 39 30 20 31 64 20 33 66 20 62 33 |c 78 90 1d 3f b3| 00003310 20 33 37 20 33 38 20 37 36 20 0a 30 65 64 30 3a | 37 38 76 .0ed0:| 00003320 20 38 35 20 31 31 20 61 33 20 30 36 20 31 37 20 | 85 11 a3 06 17 | 00003330 61 66 20 61 30 20 31 64 20 0a 0a |af a0 1d ..| 0000333b root@bsd13:/bootkeys # Does anyone have a way to get any more real information out of these files in more humanly readable form? Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 29 05:58:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C191D55DE for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 05:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x12b.google.com (mail-lf1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47lqcy34VBz49Fx for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 05:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id y19so23302631lfl.9 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 21:58:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=qcivvGPIGoXxluqLT/nUFsgbv05tK5uJ9b6EXmkQojU=; b=glA5FXtfJekvbej+fHm7/ExKnEYIQH9uQMGthSoXWZ0WYWh2tnJMfFNXbJstDHilYF P8qC1iIvw1iFl8NdtBXqGXeUSuXAtEDfkuxbX27RbrcAiEamWQ0dQ2ztOfTYFwUrDUCV N0DPQR54Q8Y9HrHR1l6Z4oDmm8lAphqxj9tZ5y/mocF8V8PFN/T9EGGBXoXKShlqkFMB U09BnYTeBPapLRbHFqyhKGd0l71htIA6/8tm+oy8BW5Z3CP4ZySPHRIQG4guB/GUou8/ lQExnV2WUxrPmkN1+Pqpv0QmrEV5LXn8h/lDtuYvjNAGv0sMaMxOcQU9V73UM/fAaxfm I5sA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=qcivvGPIGoXxluqLT/nUFsgbv05tK5uJ9b6EXmkQojU=; b=PU4LXZ9+ROclumSwNavaRMcndyZouO++Gj3LEIviNnpaAIMD/bFemronizAgMVtSAC agHNC9n3KYGsjldANc5IKzZNKnQLpgEubmxqPdj6kHVqXMaTvYwGgJoQodCf1hAlr0Mf qFh4RmGcYRzZg+DALhRX1IrENhybaP8bLNP6xO5+/OFndTKxfRrodWoZ4ZWh4aJohYjs jJDY5xnNnrNHElEdxKzLEcImL69slUpfGNGFvUpZws7poRSoKly0pq+Twrm5d7vRwMpx BE2kM8Jo9ivChuSWLmeX0Ndz5uZLgPmevqdnhTHKazmkjDDnmlg1gldzuHgX5i1CiBFs iO5w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWZap5LYj7dC7rlRppNjXaahz1SUO9yURYim+5asRMWxxK7Vn1h RTleUYL9+qK10zw8A0yNU782zcIwCy1z6/IHhvAP+uk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyib5pP99qgJCLa9mUZYSIPwbeCGMKjimp7RJ+CFSTBuwaeGgFiyISGO0eYX+sfodtuWzxNoN9jdvciZmbkVVc= X-Received: by 2002:a19:c697:: with SMTP id w145mr32919583lff.54.1577599135360; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 21:58:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clay Daniels Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:58:44 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reading nvram efi variables To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47lqcy34VBz49Fx X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=glA5FXtf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of claydanielsjr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::12b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claydanielsjr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.14), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.64), asn: 15169(-1.88), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 05:58:59 -0000 Actually I intended to write it as a binary file with the -b option: root@bsd13:/bootkeys # efivar -n 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-dbxDefault -b > dbx root@bsd13:/bootkeys # hexdump -C dbx 00000000 26 16 c4 c1 4c 50 92 40 ac a9 41 f9 36 93 43 28 |&...LP.@ ..A.6.C(| 00000010 8c 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 bd 9a fa 77 |........0......w| 00000020 59 03 32 4d bd 60 28 f4 e7 8f 78 4b 80 b4 d9 69 |Y.2M.`(...xK...i| 00000030 31 bf 0d 02 fd 91 a6 1e 19 d1 4f 1d a4 52 e6 6d |1.........O..R.m| 00000040 b2 40 8c a8 60 4d 41 1f 92 65 9f 0a bd 9a fa 77 |.@..`MA..e.....w| 00000050 59 03 32 4d bd 60 28 f4 e7 8f 78 4b f5 2f 83 a3 |Y.2M.`(...xK./..| 00000060 fa 9c fb d6 92 0f 72 28 24 db e4 03 45 34 d2 5b |......r($...E4.[| 00000070 85 07 24 6b 3b 95 7d ac 6e 1b ce 7a bd 9a fa 77 |..$k;.}.n..z...w| ~ 00000ec0 9c a5 44 e6 bb 78 0a 2c 78 90 1d 3f b3 37 38 76 |..D..x.,x..?.78v| 00000ed0 85 11 a3 06 17 af a0 1d 38 62 65 34 64 66 36 31 |........8be4df61| 00000ee0 2d 39 33 63 61 2d 31 31 64 32 2d 61 61 30 64 2d |-93ca-11d2-aa0d-| 00000ef0 30 30 65 30 39 38 30 33 32 62 38 63 2d 64 62 78 |00e098032b8c-dbx| 00000f00 44 65 66 61 75 6c 74 0a 0a |Default..| 00000f09 root@bsd13:/bootkeys # On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:46 PM Clay Daniels wrote: > The efivar command will list efi variables using: > # efivar -l > ~ > 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-dbxDefault > 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-dbDefault > 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-KEKDefault > 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-PKDefault > ~ > (There are a lot more but these secure boot keys are the ones of interest > to me) > > I can write them to a file with: > # efivar -n 8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c-dbxDefault > dbx > > I can sort of read it with hexdump: > root@bsd13:/bootkeys # hexdump -C dbx > 00000000 38 62 65 34 64 66 36 31 2d 39 33 63 61 2d 31 31 > |8be4df61-93ca-11| > 00000010 64 32 2d 61 61 30 64 2d 30 30 65 30 39 38 30 33 > |d2-aa0d-00e09803| > 00000020 32 62 38 63 2d 64 62 78 44 65 66 61 75 6c 74 0a > |2b8c-dbxDefault.| > 00000030 30 30 30 30 3a 20 32 36 20 31 36 20 63 34 20 63 |0000: 26 16 > c4 c| > 00000040 31 20 34 63 20 35 30 20 39 32 20 34 30 20 61 63 |1 4c 50 92 40 > ac| > 00000050 20 61 39 20 34 31 20 66 39 20 33 36 20 39 33 20 | a9 41 f9 36 > 93 | > 00000060 34 33 20 32 38 20 0a 30 30 31 30 3a 20 38 63 20 |43 28 .0010: > 8c | > 00000070 30 65 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 |0e 00 00 00 > 00 0| > 00000080 30 20 30 30 20 33 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 20 30 30 |0 00 30 00 00 > 00| > 00000090 20 62 64 20 39 61 20 66 61 20 37 37 20 0a 30 30 | bd 9a fa 77 > .00| > 000000a0 32 30 3a 20 35 39 20 30 33 20 33 32 20 34 64 20 |20: 59 03 32 > 4d | > 000000b0 62 64 20 36 30 20 32 38 20 66 34 20 65 37 20 38 |bd 60 28 f4 > e7 8| > 000000c0 66 20 37 38 20 34 62 20 38 30 20 62 34 20 64 39 |f 78 4b 80 b4 > d9| > 000000d0 20 36 39 20 0a 30 30 33 30 3a 20 33 31 20 62 66 | 69 .0030: 31 > bf| > 000000e0 20 30 64 20 30 32 20 66 64 20 39 31 20 61 36 20 | 0d 02 fd 91 > a6 | > 000000f0 31 65 20 31 39 20 64 31 20 34 66 20 31 64 20 61 |1e 19 d1 4f > 1d a| > 00000100 34 20 35 32 20 65 36 20 36 64 20 0a 30 30 34 30 |4 52 e6 6d > .0040| > 00000110 3a 20 62 32 20 34 30 20 38 63 20 61 38 20 36 30 |: b2 40 8c a8 > 60| > 00000120 20 34 64 20 34 31 20 31 66 20 39 32 20 36 35 20 | 4d 41 1f 92 > 65 | > 00000130 39 66 20 30 61 20 62 64 20 39 61 20 66 61 20 37 |9f 0a bd 9a > fa 7| > 00000140 37 20 0a 30 30 35 30 3a 20 35 39 20 30 33 20 33 |7 .0050: 59 > 03 3| > 00000150 32 20 34 64 20 62 64 20 36 30 20 32 38 20 66 34 |2 4d bd 60 28 > f4| > 00000160 20 65 37 20 38 66 20 37 38 20 34 62 20 66 35 20 | e7 8f 78 4b > f5 | > 00000170 32 66 20 38 33 20 61 33 20 0a 30 30 36 30 3a 20 |2f 83 a3 > .0060: | > 00000180 66 61 20 39 63 20 66 62 20 64 36 20 39 32 20 30 |fa 9c fb d6 > 92 0| > 00000190 66 20 37 32 20 32 38 20 32 34 20 64 62 20 65 34 |f 72 28 24 db > e4| > 000001a0 20 30 33 20 34 35 20 33 34 20 64 32 20 35 62 20 | 03 45 34 d2 > 5b | > 000001b0 0a 30 30 37 30 3a 20 38 35 20 30 37 20 32 34 20 |.0070: 85 07 > 24 | > 000001c0 36 62 20 33 62 20 39 35 20 37 64 20 61 63 20 36 |6b 3b 95 7d > ac 6| > 000001d0 65 20 31 62 20 63 65 20 37 61 20 62 64 20 39 61 |e 1b ce 7a bd > 9a| > 000001e0 20 66 61 20 37 37 20 0a 30 30 38 30 3a 20 35 39 | fa 77 .0080: > 59| > 000001f0 20 30 33 20 33 32 20 34 64 20 62 64 20 36 30 20 | 03 32 4d bd > 60 | > 00000200 32 38 20 66 34 20 65 37 20 38 66 20 37 38 20 34 |28 f4 e7 8f > 78 4| > ~ > 00003300 63 20 37 38 20 39 30 20 31 64 20 33 66 20 62 33 |c 78 90 1d 3f > b3| > 00003310 20 33 37 20 33 38 20 37 36 20 0a 30 65 64 30 3a | 37 38 76 > .0ed0:| > 00003320 20 38 35 20 31 31 20 61 33 20 30 36 20 31 37 20 | 85 11 a3 06 > 17 | > 00003330 61 66 20 61 30 20 31 64 20 0a 0a |af a0 1d ..| > 0000333b > root@bsd13:/bootkeys # 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Make sure boot partitions are present and populated on the new disk(s). > The same for any swap partitions. Could you elaborate on this step or refer to relevant man pages? This is the step I don't know how to do. 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[85.147.130.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t25sm18357101wmj.19.2019.12.29.12.33.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Dec 2019 12:33:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Moving root on ZFS on GELI so GELI is no longer used To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191204223149.A880630600A8@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20191229173722.EB89680060@mailuser.nyi.internal> From: Johan Hendriks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 21:32:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191229173722.EB89680060@mailuser.nyi.internal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: nl X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mC1c0BKCz44W8 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=R4AMegRE; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johhendriks@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::435 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johhendriks@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.46), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.64), asn: 15169(-1.87), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 20:33:09 -0000 Op 29-12-2019 om 18:37 schreef Kralj Karlo: > Trond Endrestøl writes: >> man zfs, searching for zfs snapshot, zfs send, and zfs receive. >> >> My take usually is: >> >> 1. Make sure boot partitions are present and populated on the new disk(s). >> The same for any swap partitions. > Could you elaborate on this step or refer to relevant man pages? > This is the step I don't know how to do. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I think he ment to create the same partition schema on the new disk and copy the boot code to the boot partition.
 I always use a GPT schema and never MBR, so i think it works for both schema's but i am not sure. To copy the partition layout of your active disk you can use the backup and restore option from gpart. # /sbin/gpart backup ada0 | /sbin/gpart restore -F ada1 ada2
 To copy the bootcode you can do that with the following command. 

If you use EFI use both commands, if you do not use EFI only the gpart code.
 In this example, the efifat file is copied to the second partition of disk ada1. The boot code to the first partition of disk ada1 # dd if=/boot/boot1.efifat of=/dev/ada1p2 # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada1

 Replace ada1 with the device name of your new disk also change -i 1 if your bootcode is on another partition.
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Does each program finish before the next one starts? */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program1.sh */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program2.sh */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program3.sh Thanks --=20 Jerry --Sig_/tf3qp/547_zcUJ2GLlONvqO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl4JFKoACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQ0NAgAgNamXiq5W+tZiwAC+HCSiLEECZZXtPg5YA91MlyzI9E9ouOcIhv8Eixs vl7+dhFL2C4pg9oCW6IW4TBp4zbSu2kzRtCrkFUZ2K+RT6ZUxFb5bYskHmkFlrT1 IAHRMzFnNszApoD4lpefLczrAOWu+BIppaKGx7gie48Kc/FpztUdfPYiJiWCYzbL UN/gJkW29s5VMZNLaaaZXiwIFBy/5DXEkkQpX95mOqXH8/AuJ7rKPi5nK6trlSoz QFjkLISJzijbxQowYaODXDS4W5UHqGLtV3+UclAE7NsSQHfo63vkZDCHwy6Fy81h DzWAq9wcak8z6EMWd8sVclPoi8tlXA== =1Wc6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/tf3qp/547_zcUJ2GLlONvqO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 29 22:10:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B371EC2DE for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kappei84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42b.google.com (mail-wr1-x42b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mF9j28y8z4BQ1 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kappei84@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id j42so31174171wrj.12 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:10:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=i0g115DYbtCdl80lOpu9VhgoJo0ihh0EtpDHwGJG+t0=; b=N3vOaKW06Mi61EpuMf9DLpSGdOEc8A1KVLu2y8LieerpL4EC9j17Wfr+uNxiZLjZOa Dt1pXvhG6bH/NDDbj6qzqp3ajL/5RwsgMceoIi5yVdT2wjurZstyFCCmgpAm7ElotPmw TOOfTnGs64w+9QuLT7cilhiOocuAeskT3aC1C115LDSq11t/OFl9+YYiA26zY1iTllZO uYmO4HM2oUJozPDTeZFn/ck6Ur/Bg1/zV0KGENbk45qR3bVseMjMDnOFchbw54BY1ult t8VgyHTP2hn+1empZ3FtQQeSxAIlsuwm7G2YegCp+6K8SdHZy63Ko/nnEzneiJnmXYem ZBtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=i0g115DYbtCdl80lOpu9VhgoJo0ihh0EtpDHwGJG+t0=; b=RnRGKHijsPs3aTYg02O+92UXeIbhFhfshivncUWI0XJT6VGbZhpfNeTGyCbfjaL2OL bWaxhZ8WK6/xz6/c9jxyfmlv3TRBUd1LthzSdNgJQaUye86GYOeGnpmkc+MrKhVzw+Xa 2Fht4FaFvyBCFd5puZmf7Zbr9ZA7m0JxVUDwxv8st6eryu0bre3Z/d8H13+LQmiVb8PC MeXvo/b/1Pg1q3LvPYwxH7qopfjx8HzJop3sB1qDsoEg7H7G0BJ76lRZ0V0NZt5x0aMn 2oYxCm3HvFJpxFrb9jGYnhKyIu9uBKfO7l/AbemYzIJctyx/XHMVOjCpj7Q3bHFHcFHr NxuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXUSgqXUWmdqZzyuPWWsS2hhof66ibtX3y+7G2cRNfWHh3OE0Gw olZaFZ33QT2HhiraZEtvINnfYdymBoXE47SFzI3ojSo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzngdnPnubuAIcj1awCR8/oLC9MURz+B4YcpoIQFFyEviKMPRn9QyAoqqmJ1tlaU0E2R2glAInu3IzOLrSZ/qs= X-Received: by 2002:adf:81c2:: with SMTP id 60mr61059969wra.8.1577657415379; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:10:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191229160338.07aa34c0@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20191229160338.07aa34c0@scorpio> From: HiMyNameIsIlNano Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:10:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Program order in crontab To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mF9j28y8z4BQ1 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:10:17 -0000 Il dom 29 dic 2019, 22:03 Gerard E. Seibert ha scritto: > In a standard 'crontab', if I have three programs as show below, do they > run in order as listed or all at one time, or something else? Does each > program finish before the next one starts? > > */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program1.sh > */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program2.sh > */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program3.sh > > Thanks > > -- > Jerry > Hi, from what I gather from this thread https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-July/011538.html the order is bottom up, but I would not bet on that. If you need to ensure that your scripts are run in a given order I would write a wrapper script to orchestrate the tasks and avoid that your logic breaks in case the underlying cron implementation changes. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 29 23:34:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6971EE198 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mH2Q57lxz4G5B for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBTNXqLT041504 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:33:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1577662433; bh=wEtvt+iauu+sha697PkHBwA2a2mocvy8KMtwlOG7VUI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=sfVhTOjdsS46cSxotQx45b8uuQ8qk+3iCONx8ZybHXAvOSWqGTYKIwMXRkiyWulBe /4uxIEAmwJmv26TzHplNoSXbNWnmucZOmEuqfBmtWo0975Xyr3W/e5A95rV6wnjHzG MeBZWzgw7lVOL71KJt/cg8j19UbkLMqjGoR8h0N33IChJIivsQlx/0o44yJn0xEeGl nhbONTx7XCLvfb0oziRBEzQ44gGqt+OusfjXnmEhfhyEsaraiRi7vh30FCsyl/5CAA 4JGILwcOT+Q9GdMd0P+85rsVRPC/HYh9dNwlSJCTAyRyFW/WHOmpTsEQcHw0t7eIHG ERLe3pAYSzNnw== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xBTNXpFQ041493; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:33:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:33:51 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: Kralj Karlo cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Moving root on ZFS on GELI so GELI is no longer used In-Reply-To: <20191229173722.EB89680060@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: References: <20191204223149.A880630600A8@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20191229173722.EB89680060@mailuser.nyi.internal> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99999 (BSF 352 2019-06-22) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mH2Q57lxz4G5B X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ximalas.info header.s=default header.b=sfVhTOjd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ximalas.info; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trond.endrestol@ximalas.info designates 2001:700:1100:1::8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trond.endrestol@ximalas.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.94 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ximalas.info:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ximalas.info:+]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ximalas.info,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:224, ipnet:2001:700::/32, country:NO]; IP_SCORE(-1.94)[ip: (-7.78), ipnet: 2001:700::/32(-1.18), asn: 224(-0.70), country: NO(-0.01)] Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:34:08 -0000 On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 17:37-0000, Kralj Karlo wrote: > Trond Endrestøl writes: > > man zfs, searching for zfs snapshot, zfs send, and zfs receive. > > > > My take usually is: > > > > 1. Make sure boot partitions are present and populated on the new disk(s). > > The same for any swap partitions. > > Could you elaborate on this step or refer to relevant man pages? > This is the step I don't know how to do. Assuming da0 and da1 are your new disks, and you want these disks to be bootable on both legacy (BIOS) and UEFI systems, then I would do something like this: # Create GPT on da0 and da1 gpart create -s gpt da0 gpart create -s gpt da1 # Create legacy boot partition and ESP for UEFI on da0 gpart add -a 4K -s 512K -t freebsd-boot -l gptboot0 da0 gpart add -a 4K -s 800K -t esp -l esp0 da0 # Ditto for da1 gpart add -a 4K -s 512K -t freebsd-boot -l gptboot1 da1 gpart add -a 4K -s 800K -t esp -l esp1 da1 # Write bootcode to da0 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 da0 gpart bootcode -p /boot/boot1.efifat -i 2 da0 # Ditto for da1 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 da1 gpart bootcode -p /boot/boot1.efifat -i 2 da1 Further, I probably would add a couple of swap partitions for swap, and another couple of swap partitions for dumps (though only one of them will actually be used), and a couple of ZFS partition for a mirrored root pool: gpart add -a 4K -s 16G -t freebsd-swap -l swap0 da0 gpart add -a 4K -s 16G -t freebsd-swap -l swap1 da1 gpart add -a 4K -s 16G -t freebsd-swap -l dump0 da0 gpart add -a 4K -s 16G -t freebsd-swap -l dump1 da1 gpart add -a 4K -t freebsd-zfs -l zroot0 da0 gpart add -a 4K -t freebsd-zfs -l zroot1 da1 Consult gpart(8) for more information on the syntax. For SSDs, you might want an alignment of 1M. And if you don't have or plan on using 4Kn drives, you can omit specifying alignment altogether. You could move the swap and dump partitions to a dedicated disk. I use such a setup for my VMs where conservation of physical disk space is something to consider. Next, create your ZFS pools as you normally would. In the case of 4Kn drives, you might want to do sysctl vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift=12 before creating any new pools. Run the sysctl command after you have run kldload zfs, unless your kernel has internal/static support for ZFS. I prefer to take advantage of the GPT labels. That way I can shuffle my disks around without any ill results. The gpart add commands above will lead to: /dev/gpt/gptboot0 /dev/gpt/esp0 /dev/gpt/swap0 /dev/gpt/dump0 /dev/gpt/zroot0 /dev/gpt/gptboot1 /dev/gpt/esp1 /dev/gpt/swap1 /dev/gpt/dump1 /dev/gpt/zroot1 You can expand on the GPT labels, e.g. letting them include the hostname, if desired. GPT labels are limited to 36 characters stored as UTF-16LE. -- Trond. 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Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg Message-ID: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mQCp2bJcz4Yqy X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=hSE5QFcQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.25)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.38), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 04:57:43 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, On an "HP ProBook 6560b" notebook running FreeBSD 12.1, I've installed graphics/drm-kmod and loaded it via kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" in rc.conf. The X server even works= OK. # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.= g20191120 However, the kernel complains: "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm= -legacy-kmod pkg" Is this some kind of bug? Why would graphics/drm-kmod be considered obsolet= e? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJeCYPEAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY03cAH/3aJQt+/coIlC1sy5euswpMN qOxUNzI0MrP0L7aaDDCRlFPIrH/sg+ACoCpQBM/GDWCOq1yBbBOfH/qcfobUodaO rzIjZoGBTZpuf+UkIlV0D14MyUcwEYSdkVkoxdKnaH5XrbQjfumNB++UJQHKln8i VHzJa/eE8vGMlbWkvTQL6OqDk3+q7lKt4if84/2NeOMcdC6iwO+zd0tNnh3n3Uxw i7Ytv7McnWA26GRLR4L+ylQ6Ee8CD3ulTvTjD66SGj4sCu2UCMIOdCOXIVqNvqvo SGYzk3ciMcrL9+SjrpSPhejyWLtpW8Muyy8WYj6zg4G2qh+RLBUUoBVwclWoSJg= =Cqqy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 05:54:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AE81D6580 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 05:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mRT43hRKz4cS5 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 05:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.37.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N62mG-1jnYkd2VR2-016NKx; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:54:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:54:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. 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The X server even works OK. > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by > package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > > However, the kernel complains: > > "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. > Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" > > Is this some kind of bug? No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during the boot process and in the system message log file. > Why would graphics/drm-kmod be considered obsolete? No idea. There now is a "legacy" package that is to be used. I haven't tried this yet, but it should provide the same functionality. Sidenote: I see the same with Intel graphics in an older Lenovo Thinkpad. >From the package description: Legacy DRM driver that used to be in FreeBSD base before the removal in FreeBSD 13. For newer Intel and AMD hardware, please use graphics/drm-kmod which will pick an appropriate driver for your system. So graphics/drm-kmod will be for newer graphics hardware, and graphics/drm-legacy-kmod will be for older one, previously supported by either graphics/drm-kmod or kernel modules directly provided by the FreeBSD OS installation. The times of "install this, it will pick the correct driver automatically" seem to be over... Additionally: This version is mostly current with Linux 3.8 in terms of hardware support. Modern Linuxism. ;-) More information here: https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-legacy-kmod -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 06:03:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A841D6888 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mRgK0mDGz4cn9 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=QPuWrzyijxKza1sDmL8YlWdoCuaMOg47cOxupOipqDk=; b=g7fdMbpt47y5OIQwh1iY0WFXCj gIsrCvP6G6gG/K7hTnoC7J/541sHAUWdWwrJeLkQMZtiexXPE5HG2fDCyb130mdTGQMBvfWj7W49+ hy95yhW2I1BqQw+fjVERx75PXGS4EWXfL5HUzy0QXCRWjZaVG6lEnX1TkLWqbd/DZ9C0=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ilo8x-0006oF-NF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:03:07 +0700 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:03:07 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg Message-ID: <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mRgK0mDGz4cn9 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=g7fdMbpt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.25)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.38), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:03:10 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:57:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > On an "HP ProBook 6560b" notebook running FreeBSD 12.1, I've installed > > graphics/drm-kmod and loaded it via > > kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" in rc.conf. The X server even w= orks OK. > >=20 > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by > > package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > >=20 > > However, the kernel complains: > >=20 > > "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. > > Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" > >=20 > > Is this some kind of bug? >=20 > No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during > the boot process and in the system message log file. >=20 It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it should be the newer driver. > > Why would graphics/drm-kmod be considered obsolete? >=20 > No idea.=20 Is this some kind of bug? > There now is a "legacy" package that is to be used. > I haven't tried this yet, but it should provide the same > functionality. Sidenote: I see the same with Intel graphics > in an older Lenovo Thinkpad. >=20 > >From the package description: >=20 > Legacy DRM driver that used to be in FreeBSD base > before the removal in FreeBSD 13. For newer Intel > and AMD hardware, please use graphics/drm-kmod > which will pick an appropriate driver for your > system. That is it! As I wrote before, I use graphics/drm-kmod, but still see complaints about "obsolete abandonware." If it is intended, then it's a very odd intention. >=20 > So graphics/drm-kmod will be for newer graphics hardware, True. It's not "obsolete abandonware", it it? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJeCZMbAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0xq0IAKEuLGcKhWgtkzvSP9fqX2/G Ljkoxoz7qI+pdASqiH8fX3RNKLcvlQHgoxm3CxQSyKoIc3zBNCzehRP9cEqpmKFv /3R30C4Lpv8IC3j28RpgfIWJiKEqZF0g2jcCDhXtOAROmlfT62K4qzc8DQUMe8Qp zeek1bayD/C7H7gqlLwWY1lwqWdw9j19u5PvRXebXK2gpyR0N+RLwH+fLCIN/iEY SunTr1uNqJQAJ/BccshOgCqHiujXFpSlQxkND4Lr3/V8DhoAhTrLXv/AXLJkcO7l VjhM6/kQe7W0yE2b2C9PH3hkwqpA5IpV1HhvJOFSsOYUQqM2J6rJ9DckR3C3+ak= =Qn2t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 06:28:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40651D6E73 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mSD15JfPz4dPr for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.37.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mo6WJ-1jW9xv2BZb-00pgWE; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 07:27:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 07:27:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. 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The X server even works OK. > > > > > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > > > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by > > > package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > > > > > > However, the kernel complains: > > > > > > "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. > > > Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" > > > > > > Is this some kind of bug? > > > > No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during > > the boot process and in the system message log file. > > > > It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by > definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it should be > the newer driver. Not really. From the description: amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 and radeonkms DRM modules from the former base DRM component on other architectures. Metaport for different versions of Linux DRM based on the FreeBSD version in use. This port is a meta-port of the drivers previously contained in the OS installation (course of migrating OS components to individual packages). So it contains the "old drivers", that's why it'll be replaced by the "legacy"-named package, and the corresponding stuff will be removed from the OS entirely. There will be packages specific to OS versions, to better match them, for example graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for FreeBSD 12, and graphics/drm-fbsd13.0-kmod for upcoming FreeBSD 13. This way, legacy stuff (for old hardware) can be separated from new development for more recent hardware. > > > Why would graphics/drm-kmod be considered obsolete? > > > > No idea. > > Is this some kind of bug? No, just a strange naming method without proper communication on _why_ the naming appears. Summary: "Old drivers": DRM by OS -> graphics/drm-kmod pkg -> graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg "New drivers": graphics/drm-fbsd-kmod pkg Of course, the loading methods (kld_list setting in /etc/rc.conf) will have to be adjusted accordingly. Also note that those are metaports, installing a collection of individual driver packages, if I read (and understood) the description correctly... > > There now is a "legacy" package that is to be used. > > I haven't tried this yet, but it should provide the same > > functionality. Sidenote: I see the same with Intel graphics > > in an older Lenovo Thinkpad. > > > > >From the package description: > > > > Legacy DRM driver that used to be in FreeBSD base > > before the removal in FreeBSD 13. For newer Intel > > and AMD hardware, please use graphics/drm-kmod > > which will pick an appropriate driver for your > > system. > > That is it! As I wrote before, I use graphics/drm-kmod, but still see > complaints about "obsolete abandonware." If it is intended, then it's a > very odd intention. Sorry I didn't explain it more clearly in my first reply. The graphics/drm-kmod package is the "old drivers", while graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is the one you should use if you want the "new drivers". However, I'm not sure in how far this will work with older hardware... Detailed information here: https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod > > So graphics/drm-kmod will be for newer graphics hardware, > > True. It's not "obsolete abandonware", it it? No, sorry for causing confusion: it _is_ the "obsolete abandonware" and therefore will be renamed with the "legacy" qualifier; instead use graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for the not yet fully outdated abandon-prone obsoleteware of Linuxism. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 06:40:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559C51D721F for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mSVB3wH7z4dqF for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=X66T3OebGbUIz9lxkSiiEljeeJpRYMUR2CSug8cTYgw=; b=g6YOtnf4flbqFnFJJCZuO+CcqP gZ5B012beb1sgx+WirmbTkQi5cT2p1JRdnD4im7QkTsq7URg0f31cWjqPZmX4NTz0WwphJOh5239M Omk/KOZ5PjauHGj8X7/3doAvNCieDbh7mnstqAsq+7Pa7I/WjiiDia47+8xD6y+/anPI=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iloiv-0007Yd-64 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:40:17 +0700 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:40:17 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg Message-ID: <20191230064017.GA28510@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mSVB3wH7z4dqF X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=g6YOtnf4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.25)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.39), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:40:19 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:57:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > On an "HP ProBook 6560b" notebook running FreeBSD 12.1, I've instal= led > > > > graphics/drm-kmod and loaded it via > > > > kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" in rc.conf. The X server ev= en works OK. > > > >=20 > > > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > > > > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by > > > > package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > > > >=20 > > > > However, the kernel complains: > > > >=20 > > > > "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. > > > > Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" > > > >=20 > > > > Is this some kind of bug? > > >=20 > > > No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during > > > the boot process and in the system message log file. > > >=20 > >=20 > > It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by > > definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it should be > > the newer driver. >=20 > Not really. From the description: >=20 > amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the > linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 > and radeonkms DRM modules from the former > base DRM component on other architectures. >=20 > Metaport for different versions of Linux > DRM based on the FreeBSD version in use. >=20 > This port is a meta-port of the drivers previously contained Which "this port", graphics/drm-legacy-kmod (which I don't have installed) or graphics/drm-kmod (which I have installed)? > in the OS installation (course of migrating OS components to > individual packages). So it contains the "old drivers", that's > why it'll be replaced by the "legacy"-named package, and the > corresponding stuff will be removed from the OS entirely. >=20 > There will be packages specific to OS versions, to better > match them, for example graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for > FreeBSD 12, and graphics/drm-fbsd13.0-kmod for upcoming > FreeBSD 13. This way, legacy stuff (for old hardware) can > be separated from new development for more recent hardware. >=20 Well, in my case # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko"=20 /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.= g20191120 this is probably *the* OS specific version. >=20 >=20 > > > > Why would graphics/drm-kmod be considered obsolete? > > >=20 > > > No idea.=20 > >=20 > > Is this some kind of bug? >=20 > No, just a strange naming method without proper communication > on _why_ the naming appears. >=20 > Summary: >=20 > "Old drivers": >=20 > DRM by OS -> graphics/drm-kmod pkg -> graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg >=20 > "New drivers": >=20 > graphics/drm-fbsd-kmod pkg >=20 > Of course, the loading methods (kld_list setting in /etc/rc.conf) > will have to be adjusted accordingly. Also note that those are > metaports, installing a collection of individual driver packages, > if I read (and understood) the description correctly... Which do I have then, to begin with? # pkg info | grep kmo drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 DRM modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS com= ponents drm-kmod-g20190710 Metaport of DRM modules for the linuxkpi-bas= ed KMS components gpu-firmware-kmod-g20190825 Firmware modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS = components >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > There now is a "legacy" package that is to be used. > > > I haven't tried this yet, but it should provide the same > > > functionality. Sidenote: I see the same with Intel graphics > > > in an older Lenovo Thinkpad. > > >=20 > > > >From the package description: > > >=20 > > > Legacy DRM driver that used to be in FreeBSD base > > > before the removal in FreeBSD 13. For newer Intel > > > and AMD hardware, please use graphics/drm-kmod > > > which will pick an appropriate driver for your > > > system. > >=20 > > That is it! As I wrote before, I use graphics/drm-kmod, but still see > > complaints about "obsolete abandonware." If it is intended, then it's a > > very odd intention. >=20 > Sorry I didn't explain it more clearly in my first reply. > The graphics/drm-kmod package is the "old drivers", while > graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is the one you should use if you > want the "new drivers". However, I'm not sure in how far > this will work with older hardware... >=20 > Detailed information here: >=20 > https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod This is what I seem to have: # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko"=20 /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.= g20191120 >=20 > > > So graphics/drm-kmod will be for newer graphics hardware, > >=20 > > True. It's not "obsolete abandonware", it it? >=20 > No, sorry for causing confusion: it _is_ the "obsolete abandonware" > and therefore will be renamed with the "legacy" qualifier; instead > use graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for the not yet fully outdated > abandon-prone obsoleteware of Linuxism. ;-) --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJeCZvRAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0QnMH/jWezTXqW28nHwO878tlVR3w vG6qRlvkA3QEQKDRWz27KOfOgMvGSK0LDmxMZWm6ivwGqGopd3lcnr49gt9zjURC gijc+Kpno71dA2IiCGXmrfLf7fMpa6E8Ys1sPLyb8GHPEYdf9EwNYzd2crYcQeYV v+S+OxmH8Q07rC9NQeyxRcXdDZ7N7tA0gjrH2oSKcDCrT0uzO948UZ4phjIk6lAI XpUaMG4jVk06B41k4vQTDCHIEoZdppAWV9wo9r4hppIShRvS4cfgsArZsq9oFXZc i4qet8sBNAM1ah7ZWjL0Ispuk0FLbfxsTBggWFhLdxSOjwJYDDeGeOH+taQjj5o= =3S7H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 08:17:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FCC1D976C for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 08:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mVfr2Jfjz3F1k for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 08:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.37.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Ml6Zo-1jSZyV1ivs-00lRBs; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:17:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:17:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. 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The X server even works OK. > > > > > > > > > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > > > > > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by > > > > > package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > > > > > > > > > > However, the kernel complains: > > > > > > > > > > "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. > > > > > Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" > > > > > > > > > > Is this some kind of bug? > > > > > > > > No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during > > > > the boot process and in the system message log file. > > > > > > > > > > It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by > > > definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it should be > > > the newer driver. > > > > Not really. From the description: > > > > amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the > > linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 > > and radeonkms DRM modules from the former > > base DRM component on other architectures. > > > > Metaport for different versions of Linux > > DRM based on the FreeBSD version in use. > > > > This port is a meta-port of the drivers previously contained > > Which "this port", graphics/drm-legacy-kmod (which I don't have > installed) or graphics/drm-kmod (which I have installed)? The graphics/drm-kmod (installed) = "old drivers" at the moment; graphics/drm-legacy-kmod will be "the new name" for the "old drivers". > > in the OS installation (course of migrating OS components to > > individual packages). So it contains the "old drivers", that's > > why it'll be replaced by the "legacy"-named package, and the > > corresponding stuff will be removed from the OS entirely. > > > > There will be packages specific to OS versions, to better > > match them, for example graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for > > FreeBSD 12, and graphics/drm-fbsd13.0-kmod for upcoming > > FreeBSD 13. This way, legacy stuff (for old hardware) can > > be separated from new development for more recent hardware. > > > > Well, in my case > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by package > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > > this is probably *the* OS specific version. Very strange. You said you have drm-kmod installed, but you get the "it's obsolete" message from something installed by drm-fbsd12.0-kmod? Is that obsolete, too? ;-) > > Of course, the loading methods (kld_list setting in /etc/rc.conf) > > will have to be adjusted accordingly. Also note that those are > > metaports, installing a collection of individual driver packages, > > if I read (and understood) the description correctly... > Which do I have then, to begin with? > > # pkg info | grep kmo > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 DRM modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS components > drm-kmod-g20190710 Metaport of DRM modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS components > gpu-firmware-kmod-g20190825 Firmware modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS components You should only need to install one out of those: (a) drm-fbsd12.0-kmod - for current drivers (b) drm-(legacy)-kmod - for "old drivers" Note that I'm not sure in how far (a) can be used with older _hardware_ i. e., if it will contain drivers that will support it. I also don't know if the installation location (!) does differ, or if something can overwrite files... If I understood the documentation correctly, drm-kmod should not be used anymore, in favor of one of the two options mentioned above. > > > > There now is a "legacy" package that is to be used. > > > > I haven't tried this yet, but it should provide the same > > > > functionality. Sidenote: I see the same with Intel graphics > > > > in an older Lenovo Thinkpad. > > > > > > > > >From the package description: > > > > > > > > Legacy DRM driver that used to be in FreeBSD base > > > > before the removal in FreeBSD 13. For newer Intel > > > > and AMD hardware, please use graphics/drm-kmod > > > > which will pick an appropriate driver for your > > > > system. > > > > > > That is it! As I wrote before, I use graphics/drm-kmod, but still see > > > complaints about "obsolete abandonware." If it is intended, then it's a > > > very odd intention. > > > > Sorry I didn't explain it more clearly in my first reply. > > The graphics/drm-kmod package is the "old drivers", while > > graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is the one you should use if you > > want the "new drivers". However, I'm not sure in how far > > this will work with older hardware... > > > > Detailed information here: > > > > https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod > > This is what I seem to have: > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by package > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 The "new drivers" then. Again, that should not issue the abandonware message initially discussed. Very strange... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg Message-ID: <20191230090855.GA37814@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230064017.GA28510@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230091749.b86d5622.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191230091749.b86d5622.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mWnj1GY8z3HJk X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=jIZXuIBD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.25)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.40), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:08:58 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:57:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > > On an "HP ProBook 6560b" notebook running FreeBSD 12.1, I've in= stalled > > > > > > graphics/drm-kmod and loaded it via > > > > > > kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" in rc.conf. The X serve= r even works OK. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > > > > > > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by > > > > > > package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > However, the kernel complains: > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. > > > > > > Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Is this some kind of bug? > > > > >=20 > > > > > No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during > > > > > the boot process and in the system message log file. > > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by > > > > definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it shoul= d be > > > > the newer driver. > > >=20 > > > Not really. From the description: > > >=20 > > > amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the > > > linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 > > > and radeonkms DRM modules from the former > > > base DRM component on other architectures. > > >=20 > > > Metaport for different versions of Linux > > > DRM based on the FreeBSD version in use. > > >=20 > > > This port is a meta-port of the drivers previously contained > >=20 > > Which "this port", graphics/drm-legacy-kmod (which I don't have > > installed) or graphics/drm-kmod (which I have installed)? >=20 > The graphics/drm-kmod (installed) =3D "old drivers" at the > moment; graphics/drm-legacy-kmod will be "the new name" > for the "old drivers". Well, quoting https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics about drm-kmod Generally speaking if you have a system with one of these graphics adapters it is suggested to install the drm-kmod metaport, which should work well on systems starting with the "Broadwell" generation. This code is under active development and allows us to track more closely the drivers present in the Linux kernel. "This code is under active development" does not sound like "old drivers." > > > in the OS installation (course of migrating OS components to > > > individual packages). So it contains the "old drivers", that's > > > why it'll be replaced by the "legacy"-named package, and the > > > corresponding stuff will be removed from the OS entirely. > > >=20 > > > There will be packages specific to OS versions, to better > > > match them, for example graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for > > > FreeBSD 12, and graphics/drm-fbsd13.0-kmod for upcoming > > > FreeBSD 13. This way, legacy stuff (for old hardware) can > > > be separated from new development for more recent hardware. > > >=20 > >=20 > > Well, in my case > >=20 > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko"=20 > > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by package > > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > >=20 > > this is probably *the* OS specific version. >=20 > Very strange. You said you have drm-kmod installed,=20 Well, I ran "pkg install graphics/drm-kmod" which resulted in the following packages being installed: # pkg info -dr graphics/drm-kmod drm-kmod-g20190710 Depends on : drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > you get the "it's obsolete" message from something installed > by drm-fbsd12.0-kmod?=20 Yes! That's the point of my question. > Is that obsolete, too? ;-) I asked first!!! :-) [dd] > >=20 > > This is what I seem to have: > >=20 > > # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko"=20 > > /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by package > > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 >=20 > The "new drivers" then. Again, that should not issue the > abandonware message initially discussed. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Very strange... Indeed. 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Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230064017.GA28510@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230091749.b86d5622.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230090855.GA37814@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <49ac8c7e-31f7-251f-60c4-098b7269a52d@hedeland.org> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:49:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191230090855.GA37814@admin.sibptus.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mZ2501dLz3MBH X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.19)[0.190,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.61)[0.607,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.48)[ip: (0.66), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(0.12), asn: 16686(1.70), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:49:49 -0000 On 2019-12-30 10:08, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:57:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >>>>>>> On an "HP ProBook 6560b" notebook running FreeBSD 12.1, I've installed >>>>>>> graphics/drm-kmod and loaded it via >>>>>>> kld_list="/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" in rc.conf. The X server even works OK. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" >>>>>>> /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by >>>>>>> package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, the kernel complains: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. >>>>>>> Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this some kind of bug? The message is from the in-kernel drm version, not the one installed by the package - from a 12.1-RELEASE + drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 (built from the port) install: $ strings -f /boot/kernel/drm*.ko | grep obsolete /boot/kernel/drm.ko: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg /boot/kernel/drm2.ko: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg $ strings -f /boot/modules/drm*.ko | grep obsolete When you load one of the hardware-specific modules from the package (as you do with the recommended kld_list setting in rc.conf), it will in turn load /boot/modules/drm.ko (from the package) - at least that happens with i915kms.ko that I'm using. Are you loading a drm module explicitly somehow? E.g. 'kld_load drm' or equivalent loads the in-kernel version by default, based on: $ sysctl kern.module_path kern.module_path: /boot/kernel;/boot/modules;/boot/dtb;/boot/dtb/overlays >>>>>> No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during >>>>>> the boot process and in the system message log file. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by >>>>> definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it should be >>>>> the newer driver. Correct, see above. >>>> >>>> Not really. From the description: >>>> >>>> amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the >>>> linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 >>>> and radeonkms DRM modules from the former >>>> base DRM component on other architectures. >>>> >>>> Metaport for different versions of Linux >>>> DRM based on the FreeBSD version in use. >>>> >>>> This port is a meta-port of the drivers previously contained >>> >>> Which "this port", graphics/drm-legacy-kmod (which I don't have >>> installed) or graphics/drm-kmod (which I have installed)? >> >> The graphics/drm-kmod (installed) = "old drivers" at the >> moment; No - as mentioned this is a meta-port, which will actually install the current version of graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod if you are running 12.x. --Per Hedeland From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 13:02:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37DF1DF630 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mcz66B1Cz3xn5 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBUD2Iic081482 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:02:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1577710938; bh=zY/NQihfDaeWKDM7ua0rQ8dkFQpe3uNxnv5zvAg/95w=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=rs6SI8zUhANQ9QyxNWSNvGzEH3sLqSs3E89QIRCD1tbHDfIIeUYRGWxlUj1M2oozz qRlIMc1XwUI/1Xc9ixQWHyCxllA6784Ig/IDynMTCXFjeFRB/hTZdh6oahEa3hPUo7 SVgAvN2ruXArxtFbfdsvTNa/dweGEo7X6yDLFLJTj4JPR9sdSQOepgG48ZFxChatrT dBWI773Pthsma0VswT6Foyeel/ignLdz4vCmBvGuitqhX5d6InSiHeL4Mic8yvrSZ+ h4iqOzO7UGkoRmqe9jOIXj/Of7T1w0Wnttwx9XbewX2e8NKJp6OcjX1fqS+bjLpbbP dsWsARI9lG4wA== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xBUD2HR6081470 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:02:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:02:17 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. 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The X server even works OK. Prepend /boot/modules/drm.ko to this list. This will ensure the newest drm module is loaded before the more GPU specific module(s). -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 13:32:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064B71E01B3 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mddv1f0wz4044 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBUDWT3W006071 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:32:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1577712750; bh=dRYzjxMevMm0l5mU70sZYKo6LdcK3/73ZuOgfiZEROU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=JogR6L5uS5Cc1bL9tIqyZqLc/klPckf8PLklW7+Htzur8b8jD6MDBPW7Argqx70ml W5oXlA9LuKU4VK+jQqPOAK4BFydLI5bw7x+6LCO4Te9RXLXFWgoyhLvRlEch0bh0OZ s/FTCg/5OLUK4u4mg9hwTmVQ+SOgVdcDD+TGhj2FPOq8iVyR0AUBi4hLk3jhscqbbf ZA4Cjrr8IWBLUSZzqisgcnR0hs/JDuOdvpOhmFQaY1fhAkw5R86RErVCodDL57raLZ OQYOENOZneXNktxzpLqJGuUsi644UTxVuuguUeKdd5gauRcksdUyvI0LZKAhUXklmJ dseEGM7Iy0mzA== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xBUDWTSZ006068 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:32:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:32:29 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Why does my ports tree not get updated ? 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Use portsnap auto for future incremental updates. -- Trond. 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You need to run portsnap fetch before running portsnap update (or portsnap extract). The convenient way to use portsnap is portsnap auto which will fetch and either extract or update as appropriate. > What am I doing wrong on account of which my ports hierarchy is not in > sync with the latest changes ? By the looks of it not 'fetch'ing the updates. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 14:32:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBDB1E16C6 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from mail-01.thismonkey.com (mail-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6602::a01:232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thismonkey.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mfys58Xfz42pf for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) X-TM-Via-MX: mail-01.thismonkey.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thismonkey.com; s=dkim; t=1577716324; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=l80kjp8pcE9S5xeLsnW5VbIOvBKxFdYGLGXmYwZh9CU=; b=JjObylpf/unmwGCi1KG67kONvvF/w1jEsGUxvBR8X43mDJBSYmXpuiB4qaJU//0McR74v8 Zk1/BKW1O6F/cdp5zuari96xpM5xSXU/ZtBbMaNpQjM5uwV72Qgn26XcO1Yb//5lp1l7Pc NxM1uYrQU88E83Lpw4r2GaqY8a9SM9E= Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (utility-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6601:0:0:a01:120]) by mail-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBUEW1Dh073410 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 01:32:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xBUEW1Kp089723 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 01:32:01 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xBUEVxgY089655 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 01:31:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 01:31:59 +1100 From: Scott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Program order in crontab Message-ID: <20191230143159.GA80921@thismonkey.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.4 at mail-01.thismonkey.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mfys58Xfz42pf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=thismonkey.com header.s=dkim header.b=JjObylpf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=thismonkey.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com designates 2406:3400:35e:6602::a01:232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-2.02)[ip: (-8.68), ipnet: 2406:3400:300::/40(-4.34), asn: 10143(2.90), country: AU(0.01)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[thismonkey.com:~]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[thismonkey.com,none]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[thismonkey.com:s=dkim]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10143, ipnet:2406:3400:300::/40, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:32:24 -0000 > In a standard 'crontab', if I have three programs as show below, do they > run in order as listed or all at one time, or something else? Does each > program finish before the next one starts? > > */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program1.sh > */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program2.sh > */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program3.sh > > Thanks > > -- > Jerry They would run asynchronously, although I'm not sure of the order they would be started. The cron code may shed some light (I would assume top down but I haven't checked the code). If you wanted to ensure they are run synchronously just put them on one line separated with a '; '. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 17:06:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBE91E48D6 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx2.dismail.de (mx2.dismail.de [159.69.191.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx2.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mkNN0BPHz4FWg for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5b700c96 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:06:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d28945fe for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:06:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2444b7cd for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:06:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 36e97025 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:06:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:05:58 -0500 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: vt console Message-ID: <20191230120558.02ca91fb@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mkNN0BPHz4FWg X-Spamd-Bar: ------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; IP_SCORE(-2.12)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 159.69.0.0/16(0.86), asn: 24940(-1.54), country: DE(-0.02)]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:159.69.191.136]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[136.191.69.159.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:06:13 -0000 Today I did read https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons and there are not any changes for " Screen saver Unstarted" Changes on the site are made I think in 2015. Do they plan or is it impossible to make "green saver" to works, please? Thank you. =20 --=20 =E2=80=9Cgood people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws=E2=80=9D=20 Plato From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 17:22:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3C11E4F28 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mkkv2S0Bz4GQk for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.37.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MhFpq-1jP93D1z6o-00eMAe; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:22:09 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:22:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: starikarp@dismail.de Cc: ajtiM via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: vt console Message-Id: <20191230182209.f469e54e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191230120558.02ca91fb@dismail.de> References: <20191230120558.02ca91fb@dismail.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5bGHMmYfgisD7pKHMI8zEqaw+eXaO1k8RBtkFc+I8KXaXhDN3/6 tB2DKUU0Ant8SvB4gAQs0Y9ps5SZf84IZakrBakZf6/6sr8HYB+UdyHFqyjkWZ7+KhHPKgv SCs7JpMFyDpXkePoNmKG6wwqIyrE4dlt/pEpCrYg82CbTN1w74nMCKHThlaMq1tgUVaK9h+ ZDsR7bWw0SnpQaSvEb3yw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:odT4SYEG4no=:O+qxL8dloNBuIv5pG52yfk XjvPBIIMh5wbRX0qwfWheO5mqknJ1rCT+h/79cLLDp0wK6uPKqKKSVnGUYcVNLEGhQk0upbi2 AkfYjB/TSffGXsETXKuxZkGp+BRW0BW9i/uV7x7LHpVwxgc8W+dhd4tqRQZKS2mJVQ2jrBEoT +qcuPJUS8L3pw1qxeaanQ4REJTT0oxcFYWOnyYixDhGzAk7GAHvRvpB6yzghc3495w6986Ur/ 2KHx7roI1sivhZHQuG1jAX84DHmvd8g5/ep0tZy7fFSQA33LCCA9oLGD/zPT3DqMm/HN0mvMi yRvQ0XGab7oLbHx5+MfMyLbRfIMhtDTj7azNSoAfOcGFusMgydMdUxDc5A7HtN1H0pvntekLn g4DQ8e/apLT1pDRpxIqvqqBXy7pBmahkRJJh+5IDy0RJhtFnxesFQO9TMm3ctvsnF+Djuyb5r 7GKhyBXZ6rOVa9C4kDytpEj4Vdqwlz5TGrIvsWzOIBfDzutGIE0Nrg+Or/hd6H4X3EuFjPiZA rPhoEZb+GPhxUohEw0vBTWY7dLFL2Bf6sbzZ4EnD2G1Jpg7/rkLHqJXYPEv0T3BQmAqjG3p0w 3Onxzjj4xOBKuiySfmkjhIQtI3gSHWCJ4kTP393vH1iZuuxRmYP2DnL+7SF7R8sg6hB/2qBCr DWDCdU7XpGU21AQa9yPSwVtcu8/sUa9uEt9r5ycm2DJ/luLvEGoY37vUW06HV0tUUjzfj6vhB hN/tlHOOuMJmeqlgJK/8bzweyemB+s+rbh6Zs3e0BMBjDxGeh+HBVw/2LaOnnvjHZqraoCisU 66Tr1RaO38xNbWcpDI53teePjW4XB3oUkChHNxDZWGs7rCms1hyG5EuRhqfzYJNT20W/AFA1E 8OzcVK9ezq7EPP+OjrCw== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mkkv2S0Bz4GQk X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.79 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[236.37.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.92)[0.917,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.993,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.48)[ip: (1.37), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.25), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:22:16 -0000 On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:05:58 -0500, ajtiM via freebsd-questions wrote: > Today I did read https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons and there are not any > changes for " Screen saver Unstarted" > > Changes on the site are made I think in 2015. Do they plan or is it > impossible to make "green saver" to works, please? Forget about vt. If your system runs X, use X (and a screensaver for X), as X forces you to use vt. If it does _not_ run X, switch to sc and use the sc-based screensaver as it worked for decades. I've been following this suggestion for some time now, and it saves you lots of trouble and disappointment. :-/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 17:35:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13D1E53AC for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ml245bkTz4H2g for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.37.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M42X0-1ilyws2k1Q-00019z; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:35:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:35:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Per Hedeland Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg Message-Id: <20191230183522.8f4af4bf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49ac8c7e-31f7-251f-60c4-098b7269a52d@hedeland.org> References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230064017.GA28510@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230091749.b86d5622.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230090855.GA37814@admin.sibptus.ru> <49ac8c7e-31f7-251f-60c4-098b7269a52d@hedeland.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:A8SMHHb+UdRtaUpHNw4gA4XCUFx7PCIPe0XCI8T5QEAl0MwaFIV bm3iDGswTkZEINFMfQgwpd0/GLbOdzOmXAg8+Kpc3Xy7Yg/k8FVbhgIXHN0GdWyTVcR//pp ygAgN+1ZcZg8cAxYZ6b/KFO+Nql7zpjoS39ffL8J2oSc3SbiUUsQ8LoDI5bRfOO0+UShunI q7u9J3/zJ7qF+rYWOKRhQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8o5b5ZbdezQ=:R0tsA1zRHqT1DoEhSwW8OV YyBLCE/J21UyOBiWrnn+WOB/0ulGRvw8DP0AyZ2OMXQnc4sgiLy3kjFtMpqkd7uZyhIZYn6Dj CsnViqF+idgiBNX/ffSgj8XQmH4r2YISZ2ZvB4VsikogWBExsCwfVANMS9dfcw7gXlmo2JF9n rN9jTYBgVqx+Xd6aK4rD8WeHY1vARA2v7SHX1YozJ0vcBqcbBpn/ozBsjLXgX6DWWUJg7vx+t PpPmS2T+Sc1rG6OrjdtYrN/MsmUWg5TVh0yKu+0lOCGOX4WcO0+8CHk29k1D+xnf4+TqkqggR 9zkcXgHWTGlue6/vgjyLd0eXNtTwvpDtRyNbzMTTb4lV0ZevJlu3CTuP6fDxdkCU6a9pRgX62 7M1pXuzZUeZG/HwncpiMMhZ6q1fSXWCGJVQx7Emv6CzdH+B68gRSnnL19OpJJPcwtQQbHyHEb rOY0jV5XTD/O8Ylus0HuirhcsPj6t2ox9O4d9vawWiF4reFdrJ6v7eEozB8kga2PsFgeOYQvv ooked1DjAd1PEVMDsJ6FqhFPW8pXscWEQaqRqlc5dajj+WGb1kgh7h8wVGIHGbsqEs8tjmLgK bZi3QpCjFcE1BCjL0DsDFan9lh+qw1Z/6cRKcFno8XrZ7P++IpHPekN3XnLUP0gziZkRgkUhe LlXZGWuIsFagSM4eCFwYWztRHw6R0fUGBu0VxkcYowlkNGXqsw5PaTNkS4qwnhyJbqRjBiVrn 6o6rFxI6gRvW/iVCYGS+C3D9aCQ5QwOMN1QUg6Qi+oUumrl/R8ePR36Lu6y+vCGKakFU7Aggr WVAP/qqgx9JDNmiTwvybn/ovuQaAYvm2jjAw3xWW/biO6/cc3umr7JeGpUM9QMhzNWADNi/4f t+wRWUXSMqskdJasCC3w== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ml245bkTz4H2g X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.13) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.18 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[236.37.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.14)[-0.142,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.82)[0.824,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[13.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.10)[ip: (-0.55), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.19), asn: 8560(2.25), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:35:26 -0000 On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:49:45 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2019-12-30 10:08, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Polytropon wrote: > >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:57:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >>>>>>> On an "HP ProBook 6560b" notebook running FreeBSD 12.1, I've installed > >>>>>>> graphics/drm-kmod and loaded it via > >>>>>>> kld_list="/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" in rc.conf. The X server even works OK. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" > >>>>>>> /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by > >>>>>>> package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> However, the kernel complains: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. > >>>>>>> Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Is this some kind of bug? > > The message is from the in-kernel drm version, not the one installed > by the package - from a 12.1-RELEASE + > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 (built from the port) install: > > $ strings -f /boot/kernel/drm*.ko | grep obsolete > /boot/kernel/drm.ko: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg > /boot/kernel/drm2.ko: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg > > $ strings -f /boot/modules/drm*.ko | grep obsolete > > When you load one of the hardware-specific modules from the package > (as you do with the recommended kld_list setting in rc.conf), it will > in turn load /boot/modules/drm.ko (from the package) - at least that > happens with i915kms.ko that I'm using. Very strange. I'm also using the explicit loading method for i915kms.ko (installed via pkg) and still get the abandonware message. I did not install drm-legacy-kmod, but drm-kmod, and per your definition (and my now grown understanding, thanks) this should have installed and loaded (!) drm.ko from the package, not the OS one. > Are you loading a drm module explicitly somehow? E.g. 'kld_load drm' > or equivalent loads the in-kernel version by default, based on: > > $ sysctl kern.module_path > kern.module_path: /boot/kernel;/boot/modules;/boot/dtb;/boot/dtb/overlays Is it suggested to "manually" load drm.ko with the kld_list= setting in /etc/rc.conf, in addition to the graphics driver fitting the hardware? > >>>>>> No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during > >>>>>> the boot process and in the system message log file. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by > >>>>> definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it should be > >>>>> the newer driver. > > Correct, see above. In that case, the description shown on FreshPorts (see quotes in my previous replies) is misleading, isn't it? > >>>> > >>>> Not really. From the description: > >>>> > >>>> amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the > >>>> linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 > >>>> and radeonkms DRM modules from the former > >>>> base DRM component on other architectures. > >>>> > >>>> Metaport for different versions of Linux > >>>> DRM based on the FreeBSD version in use. > >>>> > >>>> This port is a meta-port of the drivers previously contained > >>> > >>> Which "this port", graphics/drm-legacy-kmod (which I don't have > >>> installed) or graphics/drm-kmod (which I have installed)? > >> > >> The graphics/drm-kmod (installed) = "old drivers" at the > >> moment; > > No - as mentioned this is a meta-port, which will actually install the > current version of graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod if you are running 12.x. Does graphics/drm-kmod do more than install graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod? If no - why is there a meta-port installing just one other port? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm line 85. Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 71. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 71. Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 240. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 240. /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd: WARNING: failed to start spamd From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 18:45:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A331E733B for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mmZW6wRWz4MX3 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBUIj189071948 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:45:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1577731501; bh=pNqL6Lh3i8kN9CXbs4CtLCVmhcb1NhwIOGyWrHHJemE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=evsQwcU+YMxqtocfSYZN4KpaDaHHXWbbd4XMezhrdkPeWpr7HQbqtr5TUtKkyNehE JQ7LCy5I/2Vqc+dsrqY32SMuwwPrr59uU14eGKJEndydFuMpZ65vFIyCVaN/Ce/9rn 65hTonYCcsOoydcldkMG4UovcUA7lV9pRbpju/BNbwwfxaMthR1z6IQGv6tXrGdJq2 qgGasVyJREMduDRq5FrPhl1v0BZz2BUdDY17alFkXTTzqu6qMkPTVm3fj+w4XNQMh8 AGEunFGeo9dE53x8Rf5rHE7GAArcc8SS/s1SGIL122N+Bmg+ydLXp6yJLW2rku/613 zWXFe9HMZubCg== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xBUIj1e9071945 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:45:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:45:01 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl confusion --> failed to start spamd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99999 (BSF 352 2019-06-22) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mmZW6wRWz4MX3 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ximalas.info header.s=default header.b=evsQwcU+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ximalas.info; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trond.endrestol@ximalas.info designates 2001:700:1100:1::8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trond.endrestol@ximalas.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ximalas.info:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ximalas.info:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ximalas.info,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:224, ipnet:2001:700::/32, country:NO]; IP_SCORE(-2.00)[ip: (-7.96), ipnet: 2001:700::/32(-1.29), asn: 224(-0.74), country: NO(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:45:09 -0000 On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:39-0500, Andy Firman wrote: > Hi, > > I recently updated a "php" package due to security vulns. This caused a > problem with Apache, and (thanks to this mailing list) I was told I need to > upgrade package "apr". During that process, something happened with perl, > and I now have 2 versions installed. Now I am unable to use spamassassin. > How do I troubleshoot this? > > FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 > > #pkg info |grep perl > > perl5-5.30.0 Practical Extraction and Report Language > perl5.28-5.28.2 Practical Extraction and Report Language > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd start > Starting spamd. > Can't locate NetAddr/IP.pm in @INC (you may need to install the NetAddr::IP > module) (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl For some reason you're missing net-mgmt/p5-NetAddr-IP. Either pkg add net-mgmt/p5-NetAddr-IP, or (forcefully) reapply mail/spamassassin. Here's the dependency list for mail/spamassassin on my system, and yours should be the same: Depends on : p5-HTTP-Date-6.05 p5-HTML-Parser-3.72 p5-Net-IDN-Encode-2.500 p5-IO-Socket-SSL-2.066 p5-Digest-SHA1-2.13_1 p5-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA-0.31 gnupg-2.2.19 p5-URI-1.76 p5-Net-CIDR-Lite-0.21_1 p5-NetAddr-IP-4.079 razor-agents-2.84_1 py37-pyzor-1.0.0 p5-Mail-SPF-2.9.0_5 p5-Mail-DKIM-0.57 perl5-5.30.1 p5-Net-LibIDN-0.12_5 p5-Net-DNS-1.21,1 re2c-0.14.3 p5-Encode-Detect-1.01_1 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/mach/5.30 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30/mach > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30) at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util.pm line 70. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util.pm line 70. > Compilation failed in require at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm line 85. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm line 85. > Compilation failed in require at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 71. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 71. > Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 240. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 240. > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd: WARNING: failed to start spamd -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 18:51:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79B31E763F for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mmk43n2Jz4Mrf for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBUIpZmM010439 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:51:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1577731895; bh=bIMUM6EGx9HLpa/HgHt6nxYqatFYBSuo54KG5b9MGbw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=i9zNDv+oeecN9UnCZCwVHMB8bA4mDHJR6SDVwHUfKAyNrT9vc+czO2Y0nKOJDhFzH 2Qoww4oFKX3KrvROIWbQAc+wI/BeBZtdVM79/mFoRWBIy7Gh3vhQW1LVS67BowrkvO bQ2gKs4FK+wX9jPmmuq33zIYuGkRfBWNxHKSM0LPA9nM/pjSY4t5cbj8JkwpbxzD+L DT6w7HAUAbTzKFGxZt8HxS0m7z11dFAO6cQ9hNBi8a/jhVG5jSK1h5ZZa+Oow0YEgr kn6ZVnVKvN0FXgSbmksofiJaI/G4oJQ1AlFM/lJFqZCjlzPD7EOXf/7RmomofslOHy RC+3vD3woAwBA== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xBUIpZpV010436 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:51:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:51:35 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl confusion --> failed to start spamd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99999 (BSF 352 2019-06-22) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mmk43n2Jz4Mrf X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ximalas.info header.s=default header.b=i9zNDv+o; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ximalas.info; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trond.endrestol@ximalas.info designates 2001:700:1100:1::8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trond.endrestol@ximalas.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ximalas.info:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ximalas.info:+]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ximalas.info,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:224, ipnet:2001:700::/32, country:NO]; IP_SCORE(-1.98)[ip: (-7.88), ipnet: 2001:700::/32(-1.28), asn: 224(-0.74), country: NO(-0.01)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0000 On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:45+0100, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > Either pkg add net-mgmt/p5-NetAddr-IP, or (forcefully) reapply > mail/spamassassin. I'm sorry, that's pkg install net-mgmt/p5-NetAddr-IP. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 19:29:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0A31E7EF3 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mnZ356mGz4Nvy for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988CAA0498; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo13-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dcQQflbQGeAa; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0482FA2554; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBUJTgAT059838 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:29:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230064017.GA28510@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230091749.b86d5622.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230090855.GA37814@admin.sibptus.ru> <49ac8c7e-31f7-251f-60c4-098b7269a52d@hedeland.org> <20191230183522.8f4af4bf.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <534a7760-7774-58d8-b150-7086b97ff876@hedeland.org> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:29:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191230183522.8f4af4bf.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mnZ356mGz4Nvy X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.26)[-0.257,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.53)[0.529,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.47)[ip: (0.64), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(0.12), asn: 16686(1.70), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:29:48 -0000 On 2019-12-30 18:35, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:49:45 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: >> On 2019-12-30 10:08, Victor Sudakov wrote: >>> Polytropon wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:57:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >>>>>>>>> On an "HP ProBook 6560b" notebook running FreeBSD 12.1, I've installed >>>>>>>>> graphics/drm-kmod and loaded it via >>>>>>>>> kld_list="/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" in rc.conf. The X server even works OK. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> # pkg which "/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" >>>>>>>>> /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko was installed by >>>>>>>>> package drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, the kernel complains: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. >>>>>>>>> Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this some kind of bug? >> >> The message is from the in-kernel drm version, not the one installed >> by the package - from a 12.1-RELEASE + >> drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120 (built from the port) install: >> >> $ strings -f /boot/kernel/drm*.ko | grep obsolete >> /boot/kernel/drm.ko: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg >> /boot/kernel/drm2.ko: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg >> >> $ strings -f /boot/modules/drm*.ko | grep obsolete >> >> When you load one of the hardware-specific modules from the package >> (as you do with the recommended kld_list setting in rc.conf), it will >> in turn load /boot/modules/drm.ko (from the package) - at least that >> happens with i915kms.ko that I'm using. > > Very strange. I'm also using the explicit loading method for > i915kms.ko (installed via pkg) and still get the abandonware > message. I did not install drm-legacy-kmod, but drm-kmod, and > per your definition (and my now grown understanding, thanks) > this should have installed and loaded (!) drm.ko from the > package, not the OS one. Well, what can I say - "it works for me":-) (and actually for at least some other users). And I believe it should be expected to work. Are you sure you don't have an explicit "load instruction" somewhere that ends up loading /boot/kernel/drm.ko? I guess it could also be a "secondary/dependent" load - e.g. if you load i915kms without path somewhere, it will (attempt to) load /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko, and presumably pull in /boot/kernel/drm.ko. >> Are you loading a drm module explicitly somehow? E.g. 'kld_load drm' >> or equivalent loads the in-kernel version by default, based on: >> >> $ sysctl kern.module_path >> kern.module_path: /boot/kernel;/boot/modules;/boot/dtb;/boot/dtb/overlays > > Is it suggested to "manually" load drm.ko with the kld_list= > setting in /etc/rc.conf, in addition to the graphics driver > fitting the hardware? I have not seen such a suggestion from the maintainers of the "new drm". In a past discussion, not sure if it was here or in x11@, someone ("a") did suggest it, someone else ("b") pointed out that it wasn't necessary, and "a" reported back that it worked without. I guess it may be considered a matter of taste - personally I prefer to tell the kernel as little as possible about which modules to load, and have it figure things out from the existing hardware and inter- module dependencies, except for the cases where that just doesn't/can't work. Wanting to have "absolute control" and spell everything out is also a valid approach, but it seems to me that it has a higher risk of breaking due to updates. >>>>>>>> No, it's intended. You'll also see such warnings during >>>>>>>> the boot process and in the system message log file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It cannot be intended with graphics/drm-kmod installed which is by >>>>>>> definition not "legacy" or "obsolete". Quite the opposite, it should be >>>>>>> the newer driver. >> >> Correct, see above. > > In that case, the description shown on FreshPorts (see quotes > in my previous replies) is misleading, isn't it? Here is the initial part again (it's also in graphics/drm-kmod/pkg-descr): amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 and radeonkms DRM modules from the former base DRM component on other architectures. It's not entirely trivial to parse, but after a reading it a few times (and double-checking the port's Makefile:-), I believe it is saying: For amd64: amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the linuxkpi-based KMS components For other architectures: i915 and radeonkms DRM modules from the former base DRM component I.e. the "really" new stuff is only for amd64, for other architectures you get a "forward-port" of the old stuff. >>>>>> Not really. From the description: >>>>>> >>>>>> amdgpu, i915, and radeon DRM modules for the >>>>>> linuxkpi-based KMS components on amd64, i915 >>>>>> and radeonkms DRM modules from the former >>>>>> base DRM component on other architectures. >>>>>> >>>>>> Metaport for different versions of Linux >>>>>> DRM based on the FreeBSD version in use. >>>>>> >>>>>> This port is a meta-port of the drivers previously contained >>>>> >>>>> Which "this port", graphics/drm-legacy-kmod (which I don't have >>>>> installed) or graphics/drm-kmod (which I have installed)? >>>> >>>> The graphics/drm-kmod (installed) = "old drivers" at the >>>> moment; >> >> No - as mentioned this is a meta-port, which will actually install the >> current version of graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod if you are running 12.x. > > Does graphics/drm-kmod do more than install graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod? > If no - why is there a meta-port installing just one other port? I believe the idea is that drm-kmod should figure out *which* other port to install (based on amd64 arch or not, as well as based on FreeBSD version for amd64 - see the Makefile), to save the user the trouble. In yet another discussion, it was suggested that using a meta-port for this was a Bad Idea(tm) - I'm not sure whether it is, at least when installing it seems very convenient to me. There are some strange behaviors for e.g. 'delete' and 'reinstall', but it seems to me that they are a general consequence of how meta-ports are implemented (i.e. all meta-ports "suffer" from those). --Per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 19:38:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976001E81D3 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x233.google.com (mail-oi1-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::233]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mnmR6yP9z4PLw for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x233.google.com with SMTP id z64so5122768oia.4 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:38:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=prs72ZHtmMyMpKxYJyR7uUfyhm5yxwrLI18WMCT5RYU=; b=tURQiw4w5rb94m80cQTAIvn1PowW+MqITuQ0PbePD75p/m07Q0jiSPowRGNLnqeDNU 9S7Kc4ZAQz0AF/1MQud90JF8+tp4xXU+5wnAcQA/oWnvPvvZ0EVEbVcfeNnk2v2CG8fM 0WCpX2UwGAG6Ze5Ay3/fFzp/BEj16rgZYk74DCscqUJYQI/m8WZn0Mj8WNz1IRGe8dOh LeeEvxnNs7kfq1m7j2D1KhwxlUkxqnI6hPUAYl4D75jLVluI5DsYKv1H1l6huKdPFzMt Pgq8Jl4aKN3xPpVAeBpTsQLxaVRaGjRwzqXbLxp564VQMxTNOspPNZ9XGwWv04D8KafA zNmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=prs72ZHtmMyMpKxYJyR7uUfyhm5yxwrLI18WMCT5RYU=; b=lNme+lEYAi62lcyiAM30i1HWkUCiL+ds+AfrQ+aoIwKun4tWJGf2kZlm8YVidH9xan KV52F3VZNUgMdaqBp2jO18fODkVDFjCBcVWKAQ9Mdt5M84n9DQwWk+TtzlVXTcP2Q7rK dLV+w3pOXBpjXv1ZH/YIQOVgvLapendfNtG9VDG+7n9bsyYldtCvBuAUtbBN9w9sO161 fFpt2tC5cgvcU9ChQpFaqTi3SWq65XrgJ/ViLAMeOtrrXNwCLEfqrrgPkwSopyWnY7+w dDWw2oXL4R56lOJvsm6NWroI1r06b5Bg1zIzKxjouqj1yUSiL1c5yfnqLwumoTIE89Tb x4qw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXm8R9PGUxTx0q9iq9fX5Hgucm8EXti52PAIw4itqmbAYqRnJmq QXEdpZvAYDLBp9mbo3MvVtX6wA8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx7dHdEWkjY2SVam6dyEXjouG5gMy+01OfhKVsI2HdKc9hqivk8Xhr4mNsWiuQP6pfVKkwFUA== X-Received: by 2002:aca:de06:: with SMTP id v6mr298378oig.168.1577734726036; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.82] (162-239-0-170.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [162.239.0.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d131sm9434644oia.36.2019.12.30.11.38.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:38:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Program order in crontab To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191230143159.GA80921@thismonkey.com> From: "Jin Guojun[VFF]" Message-ID: <9bd9c6a3-0690-4b2b-e8d3-1cadf32236d8@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:38:39 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191230143159.GA80921@thismonkey.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mnmR6yP9z4PLw X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=tURQiw4w; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jguojun@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jguojun@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.18), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.15), asn: 15169(-1.87), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:38:49 -0000 On 12/30/19 06:31, Scott wrote: >> In a standard 'crontab', if I have three programs as show below, do they >> run in order as listed or all at one time, or something else? Does each >> program finish before the next one starts? >> >> */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program1.sh >> */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program2.sh >> */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Program3.sh >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Jerry > They would run asynchronously, although I'm not sure of the order they would > be started. > > The cron code may shed some light (I would assume top down but I haven't > checked the code). > > If you wanted to ensure they are run synchronously just put them on one line > separated with a '; '. The order of job execution in cron is typically bottom-up in FreeBSD or top-down in Linux. Additional, all jobs are executed in parallel if they have the same time scheduled, and cron has no guarantee for which one can be executed and completed in any order. This may be an ancient topic that above cronjob is not desired. If P1, P2, P3... order is expected, people should do following: */5 * * * * /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Batch.sh Including P1, .. Pn commands in /usr/home/gerard/Scripts/Batch.sh file as: BPATH=$(cd `dirname $0`; pwd) # if all commands in the same dir; or set BPATH to where other commands are $BPATH/P1.sh $BPATH/P2.sh $BPATH/P3.sh ... $BPATH/Pn.sh This also makes easier to change the job and/or the order without mucking the crontab. -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 21:07:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B811E9DAD for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mqkv390Qz4TVZ for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-173-48-64-3.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.64.3]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47mqkt4mrVzqYZ for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:07:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230064017.GA28510@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230091749.b86d5622.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230090855.GA37814@admin.sibptus.ru> <49ac8c7e-31f7-251f-60c4-098b7269a52d@hedeland.org> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <98db4d09-9b9b-f612-e3b1-5768e171864d@panix.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:07:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49ac8c7e-31f7-251f-60c4-098b7269a52d@hedeland.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mqkv390Qz4TVZ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.88 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[89.1.84.166.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; IP_SCORE(-3.38)[ip: (-9.46), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-4.12), asn: 2033(-3.29), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:07:36 -0000 On 2019-12-30 05:49, Per Hedeland wrote: > The message is from the in-kernel drm version, not the one installed > by the package... Right. And there's another complication: the release 12 package cannot be installed on a 12.1 system. Instead, you must compile that port, and use the port mechanism to install the compiled version. This is because some internal kernel interface changed between 12.0 and 12.1. I think there's a version number, so the 12.1 kernel detects and refuses to load the package, which was compiled for 12.0. (Or maybe loads it but refuses to run it.) That refusal may be why the obsolete DRM code included in the kernel runs, and puts out the "abandonware" message. This is documented in this DRM bug report: https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/183 If you think this is kind of a mess, then I agree with you. The problem is that these kernel modules are distributed as ports/packages, rather than with the kernel. That's policy, because the people doing it decided that the DRM stuff changes too fast for the kernel release schedule to keep up with it. That is not expected to change. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 21:33:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A361EABFD for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mrJL4D4Fz4WCs for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c8b4f9d8; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:33:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id de23159f; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:33:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d60fd60e; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:33:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 24725e9e (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:33:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:32:59 -0500 From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: vt console Message-ID: <20191230163259.56ad0807@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: <20191230182209.f469e54e.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20191230120558.02ca91fb@dismail.de> <20191230182209.f469e54e.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mrJL4D4Fz4WCs X-Spamd-Bar: ------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; IP_SCORE(-2.19)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 78.46.0.0/15(0.54), asn: 24940(-1.54), country: DE(-0.02)]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:33:08 -0000 On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:22:09 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:05:58 -0500, ajtiM via freebsd-questions wrote: > > Today I did read https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons and there are not > > any changes for " Screen saver Unstarted" > >=20 > > Changes on the site are made I think in 2015. Do they plan or is it > > impossible to make "green saver" to works, please? >=20 > Forget about vt. If your system runs X, use X (and a screensaver > for X), as X forces you to use vt. If it does _not_ run X, switch > to sc and use the sc-based screensaver as it worked for decades. > I've been following this suggestion for some time now, and it > saves you lots of trouble and disappointment. :-/ >=20 >=20 >=20 Thank you. I didn't try sc because I have efi boot (on Apple) and I thought that doesn't work anymore. I will get a try. --=20 =E2=80=9Cgood people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws=E2=80=9D=20 Plato From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 21:45:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7DF1EB240 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mrZg2tfzz4WxX for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D37A2763 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo13-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wIUy8IlkN13O for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2AF49FF60 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBULjRNM060302 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:45:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: kernel: drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191230045740.GA20668@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230065405.eb83eb86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230060307.GA25721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230072754.0c7a8920.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230064017.GA28510@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191230091749.b86d5622.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191230090855.GA37814@admin.sibptus.ru> <49ac8c7e-31f7-251f-60c4-098b7269a52d@hedeland.org> <98db4d09-9b9b-f612-e3b1-5768e171864d@panix.com> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:45:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <98db4d09-9b9b-f612-e3b1-5768e171864d@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mrZg2tfzz4WxX X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.48)[0.480,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.69)[0.688,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.47)[ip: (0.62), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(0.12), asn: 16686(1.69), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:45:32 -0000 On 2019-12-30 22:07, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2019-12-30 05:49, Per Hedeland wrote: > >> The message is from the in-kernel drm version, not the one installed >> by the package... > Right. > > And there's another complication: the release 12 package cannot be installed on a 12.1 system. Instead, you must compile that port, and use the port mechanism to install the compiled version. This is > because some internal kernel interface changed between 12.0 and 12.1. Yes, this has been brought up several times, I think both here and in x11@. > I think there's a version number, so the 12.1 kernel detects and refuses to load the package, which was compiled for 12.0. (Or > maybe loads it but refuses to run it.) That refusal may be why the obsolete DRM code included in the kernel runs, and puts out the "abandonware" message. Actually I believe there is no such check - the 12.1 kernel loads the compiled-for-12.0 module, and a variety of badness ensues, in most cases either a panic or a hang. I.e. I don't believe this is the reason for the obsolete in-kernel drm code being run. > This is documented in this DRM bug report: > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/183 > > If you think this is kind of a mess, then I agree with you. 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I have been bitten several times by the virtualbox-ose-kmod package being out of sync with the kernel I'm running, and thus routinely build it from the port, even though I use the package for the "main" virtualbox-ose port. --Per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 31 03:37:02 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68AD1F25AB for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 03:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x735.google.com (mail-qk1-x735.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::735]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47n0NF56Dwz3LCc for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 03:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x735.google.com with SMTP id c16so27614549qko.6 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IxUg36bYWbT1XtjMpglzgSSEjES58O7cVtx+Hc/GUk0=; b=fBzwXDo7/rgFitLLC7HDDxlGSwDnUOCPRW1L6U5urFFq7N15fUUy4u+uBy7q4UmNYN TQ9Qdp1GC5pIWiUR0d7yETBzR6zRlbf2rc8BBbKAF4hssRHvvVnIYfYqpS7xL8+WTCm6 E0MHlpyahXMFXUSsdmKW0eeNPiPtQWTpdlVVf0HG/a5cVKLvK2zvwGveRdvG0IGi7MyM rSSOWDwDMq8PDCJH0n9Tdkj9awnj2GUKp7wuesrETwXNkoFoTfYtP94wvUOVKoq9jfry 5k+HSSdvJZ/vZbTjtmxq1z40pjrenfXMh2sYnwXnxUauu0d9jNMFav2V5T1OBoduk7tA WdjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=IxUg36bYWbT1XtjMpglzgSSEjES58O7cVtx+Hc/GUk0=; b=IxXOh/KBWyG4wKA13hUx2iet6oNJ+9u/bp1ZzB9CIn1xiwCVzwHrMz43OAICs8nDZ+ ws8pO6Q4kHiJGLAWWFkqOpUx1KpaEkr6vyOIWQKxZrKbUlwmZX6D+PywqTT/jj8L58s2 uHzgKgPFQLWIELRHdwlZ1Sza2Irv++ORA1K7HScVDRdzlxxFkx/Rl7yyQ0v8z82mW3QF zCv+6Y3P5wY7l5rcrP9EpbyKJ0qw8W3LDqyOLLaSQBXIIzGsZBo4IYEbGFGPYvHo+Rj/ 1/M40vPuqk0iU023RZR4OIoLS4HZv9gETc4HhmU/moQ+NLjP+D1vPwNdpzD4XedwJY8i 3VHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUuQpzO7BAY5S4EvrlslRB+3LE7K6LtPZnh72lmELSDFHaPQom1 C5gxiGF2aYcZoSXPh9SmNrRobmJdja1Q4NRi29zNzNvO X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwo4v8h7GHBm3yeXxHHwMlvHf7MBYocEzOBfEtZH7r1Q1RDyZqz6RVzG7D39GwkH9NrIne6Q57SceYIk/8vZNs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:20c7:: with SMTP id f7mr57734849qka.440.1577763420202; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:37:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: B J Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 03:36:48 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgraded Packages And Ports, Can't Shutdown From Mate Menu Bar To: freebsd-questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47n0NF56Dwz3LCc X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=fBzwXDo7; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of va6bmj@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::735 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=va6bmj@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.32), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.15), asn: 15169(-1.87), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 03:37:02 -0000 I still don't have a satisfactory solution to this, but a compromise is to create a launcher to shut down the machine and one to restart it. It's still not the same, but it's a compromise and I don't have to type in the commands. As some wag once put it, if it works, don't fix it. BMJ On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 7:07 PM B J wrote: > I just upgraded all the packages and ports on one of my machines. It > still runs 12.0 under Mate. The only glitch was when the package upgrade > halted due to, apparently, an attempt to install something from two > different sources in the same place. > > I restarted the package upgrade and it continued from where it left off, > with no mention of the aforementioned conflict. > > My question is how I can fix it so that I can shut down my machine using > the Mate menu bar. I can shut it down from Terminal, using: > > shutdown -h now > > I don't recall seeing anything about this on the mailing list. > > Any ideas? Suggestions? Thank you. > > B. M. Jatzeck > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 31 05:48:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECF11F4547 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 05:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47n3JD64C6z3wrP for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 05:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.26.120]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Ml6du-1jSuC342yy-00lUkl; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 06:48:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 06:48:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Upgraded Packages And Ports, Can't Shutdown From Mate Menu Bar Message-Id: <20191231064838.ad2e2a7d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mCg2HbqisFCLE/WpVLDfnBYRwHEwRlUrW7P+nJv8l0Eu1MqzPWY m+I45Erzf+OCpM5vj2U+NKsaT6m7Q2U3durJEqdojMHSW4inJt6Deu5zU9wWzAMaLMyKCEU PCPEofvr1QVZbpcjL4bTC9je7Jz+BCROJXlXeA2eYS+QDlTDnW/JgnU2Cq6gd1QtwtzPuQM 9+xmbGkik7iPeuZUjXhag== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rs8lUsLtlKY=:3IG1mb0VK6w5ou1jwLsA/7 suROfwfMaSN6xipy+ZzdbUF40drDF2eevS2fO1DRG6U9g8Qe2DxZ8o8xyXUenBJt7Nzd43rTD WJgMwQ2zjd1UH3dvWauynxKIVNGdEhzuvsZVFiWbHRAbDEYWvA7KWEq0+SdsFnq4xX1ThwQGh tzOVznzOmsUXTl1Yr5fT9U6C/Lh2KvWCfgjJGsuNXUKBwe21xXC7jUEOfhWo9PgV6FpDY1bCw nNHpIF+o6nD5c7+Ykm762bygIoeHLrjT6ZCdl/FdSZBljaG0YYyPjbS/Wxw0tIpWsFrMLQUPE jPW4qmCQ2FA4kUbig9XSJTCcNHLDh70t09Gc1YHVm1iTFWThxqBnkkJu1NJeWJqTiJyFVWCDo 21t/btSyngWu5VZWx60tzmZqajSH7j85EUa+GGe8rzdhBUQZdCGVT0Qw9itUkHi6umaIC5/9x vRXtg0P8LgwBCKU1pvyUmPLHxUQCnNTdqYcuIHyYBjcRMixX8c6VyT/rmbDH0aTPLHd6AzdBi a5/k+jcQEDfszzoAbu0q+XnIy7+ragNjpgfSQovVWuxW+5w2jE9kMGq8zzkUm5QQD+ATgm+AB tR5P4NFnHkaXCd0zywn6rUvI/pNPAnCnNoxijh92WeqBHUu1SQ/QKtDQzLrUFpEG+nGtU1n5H ZfwA5l6I6ZHFuH8ujiJC/x1Y95F81G9B9uGQ5bas3AKtVenPKnzsgi91+CcySRnhdklTpmPdh x7rRX/Kas9j3zX1Z40kFM/ubfQ4qe0hWRLQpel8+DcN14fP5T9a5JUBMsGTXRM9ct57OFV5Ik jV6+nfBOjWSxlyvoV/uJAGAIIXmKoEZLQzUmKqFBLlmnPaxcgrIJsM6swvXvV1K/A441muioQ dDTw19Tk7TnA9kST3DfA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47n3JD64C6z3wrP X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.10) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.79 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[120.26.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.36)[-0.356,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.71)[0.712,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.03)[ip: (-0.87), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.19), asn: 8560(2.25), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 05:48:46 -0000 On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 03:36:48 +0000, B J wrote: > I still don't have a satisfactory solution to this, but a compromise is to > create a launcher to shut down the machine and one to restart it. It's > still not the same, but it's a compromise and I don't have to type in the > commands. Yes, I'ave done something similar in the past, as execution permissions are not a problem; for example: xterm -class SHUTDOWN -fg black -bg red -fullscreen -e "shutdown -p now ; read DUMMY" I also have this assigned to the key combination Ctrl+Alt+Moon ("Moon": Sun type 7 USB keyboard, top right button). So I have a convenient, but not "accident-prone" key combination and don't even have to explicitely click on something. Never touch a running system. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 31 07:32:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11131F5AFA for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 07:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from tamanoir.foucry.net (boulangerie.foucry.net [62.210.131.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47n5bX60SKz40wP for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 07:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from tamanoir.foucry.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tamanoir.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71EA57A81 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:31:55 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foucry.net Received: from tamanoir.foucry.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tamanoir.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fGKjIsbcI39g for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:31:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tamanoir.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A6FE57A80 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:31:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063171853F for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:31:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:31:55 +0100 From: Jacques Foucry To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Not a question Message-ID: <20191231073155.GK67247@foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47n5bX60SKz40wP X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=foucry.net (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jacques@foucry.net has no SPF policy when checking 62.210.131.96) smtp.mailfrom=jacques@foucry.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.28 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.28)[ip: (-1.50), ipnet: 62.210.0.0/16(-0.16), asn: 12876(0.25), country: FR(0.00)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:62.210.0.0/16, country:FR]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[foucry.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 07:32:10 -0000 Hello folks, Time ago I ask you about my Lexmark printer which does not want to work with my FreeBSD laptop. Why your help, I found a solution, which is not the most elegant one, but which work. I made a blog post in order to have a reminder. https://adminblog.foucry.net/posts/info/me-and_lermark/ Thanks to all for the quality of your answers. Happy new Year to every one, you, the person you love and the world. -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 31 10:02:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E7C1D07BF for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 10:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47n8wx662Jz46xC for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 10:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a1535f67; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:02:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id cc8c8687; 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TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 10:02:27 -0000 On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:31:55 +0100 Jacques Foucry wrote: > Hello folks, >=20 > Time ago I ask you about my Lexmark printer which does not want to > work with my FreeBSD laptop. >=20 > Why your help, I found a solution, which is not the most elegant one, > but which work. >=20 > I made a blog post in order to have a reminder. >=20 > https://adminblog.foucry.net/posts/info/me-and_lermark/ >=20 > Thanks to all for the quality of your answers. >=20 > Happy new Year to every one, you, the person you love and the world. >=20 Try to find helps on https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/printing-with-lpr-1-lpd-8-and-a-ppd.5734= 1/ http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/ Happy new year. --=20 =E2=80=9Cgood people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws=E2=80=9D=20 Plato From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 1 04:04:25 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A64E1E50FB for ; 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Any help in getting me a good custom kernel with the ability to add/delete EBR partitions would be greatly appreciated. > Thank you & Regards, > Manish Jain I am rather confused here. My first inclination would be to suggest you switch to GPT. Using MBR, you get up to 4 partitions, of which one may be an extended boot record. That partition is a container for logical-partition data, not a partition that can be mounted or copied to or from. It seems to me the EBR partition would be s1, s2, s3, or s4 but no higher. I'd need to see your full partition table data, such as you get with "fdisk -lu" in Linux, or you can use gpart with "show" in FreeBSD. Maybe you have the wrong partition name (ada0s5)? You can go to the loader prompt and get a rough idea of what's in the partitions, and change the root partition to boot into. I have created logical partitions with Linux fdisk but never any BSD fdisk. I believe there is a linuxfdisk in FreeBSD ports, category would be sysutils to the best of my memory. 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All your kernel configurations should be in the kernel configuration file. In order to deviate from the defaults, use "nooption " to disable an existing option, and (as shown correctly) "option " to add an additional one; same for "device" and "nodevice". > > 3) inserted 'options GEOM_PART_EBR' into my kernel configuration > > file EBRKERNEL > > > 4) cd /usr/src > > > 5) make buildkernel KERNCONF=EBRKERNEL > > > 6) make installkernel KERNCONF=EBRKERNEL > > > > When I shutdown the system and rebooted into the new kernel, the > > boot process halted complaining that it could find any device > > /dev/ada0s5 (the EBR partition). > > > > What am I doing wrong ? Any help in getting me a good custom kernel > > with the ability to add/delete EBR partitions would be greatly appreciated. > > > Thank you & Regards, > > Manish Jain > > I am rather confused here. My first inclination would be to suggest > you switch to GPT. This often is not an option for multi-OS settings because it lacks boot selection (through FreeBSD's boot manager), and the support across different operating systems (for example, read partition of of OS 1 from OS 2) sometimes causes trouble when GPT is involved. > Using MBR, you get up to 4 partitions, of which one may be > an extended boot record. That partition is a container for > logical-partition data, not a partition that can be mounted > or copied to or from. The "DOS extended partition" (which contains "logical volumes") is not to be addressed directly; instead the "logical volumes" inside it are. And that's completely okay for non-bootable partitions (such as data partitions). So basically there are 3 "DOS primary partitions" (bootable - 3 systems), one "slot" for the "DOS extended partition", and inside it, any further partitions needed, for example shared /home partitions for Linux. FreeBSD itself does not need any of this. ;-) > It seems to me the EBR partition would be s1, s2, s3, or s4 > but no higher. I'd need to see your full partition table > data, such as you get with "fdisk -lu" in Linux, or you can > use gpart with "show" in FreeBSD. If I remember the numbering system correctly, s1 - s4 are reserved for "DOS primary partitions" - slices. The "logical volumes" as well as the "DOS extended partition" containing them have a higher "s value". > Maybe you have the wrong partition name (ada0s5)? You can > go to the loader prompt and get a rough idea of what's in > the partitions, and change the root partition to boot into. So if ada0s5 is the "DOS extended partition", it's absolutely understandable that no partition (read: slice) can be found. I think the problem here is that the number is wrong. It's worth verifying the correct numbers with gpart. The "logical volumes" that need to be addressed (as a "slice equivalent") then probably should be ada0s6 and so on. > I have created logical partitions with Linux fdisk but never > any BSD fdisk. I believe there is a linuxfdisk in FreeBSD > ports, category would be sysutils to the best of my memory. In the past, I used FreeBSD's ye olde fdisk for partition creation, it worked, but the common suggestion was to use the OS that would be _using_ the partition for initializing it, and adding the required file systems. WIth goart, however, this should basically work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.57)[0.567,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.75)[0.747,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[twc.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.14)[ip: (-0.35), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.17), asn: 8560(2.23), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 16:57:46 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:50:05 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > On 2020-01-01 21:09, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jan 2020 06:19:33 +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >>> I am a long time user of FreeBSD but have never recompiled my kernel. > >> > >>> I am trying to compile a custom 12.1 amd64 kernel with the ability > >>> to add/delete EBR partitions, but the online documentation did not > >>> help and I ended up losing EBR functionality entirely. > >> > >>> The steps I followed were as under : > >> > >>> 1) copied [/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/]GENERIC as EBRKERNEL > >>> 2) commented out GEOM_PART_EBR_COMPAT in [/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/]DEFAULTS > > A little sidenote: Do not change that file. All your kernel > > configurations should be in the kernel configuration file. > > In order to deviate from the defaults, use "nooption " > > to disable an existing option, and (as shown correctly) > > "option " to add an additional one; same for "device" > > and "nodevice". > > > > > > > >>> 3) inserted 'options GEOM_PART_EBR' into my kernel configuration > >>> file EBRKERNEL > >>> 4) cd /usr/src > >>> 5) make buildkernel KERNCONF=EBRKERNEL > >>> 6) make installkernel KERNCONF=EBRKERNEL > >> > >>> When I shutdown the system and rebooted into the new kernel, the > >>> boot process halted complaining that it could find any device > >>> /dev/ada0s5 (the EBR partition). > >> > >>> What am I doing wrong ? Any help in getting me a good custom kernel > >>> with the ability to add/delete EBR partitions would be greatly appreciated. > >>> Thank you & Regards, > >>> Manish Jain > >> I am rather confused here. My first inclination would be to suggest > >> you switch to GPT. > > This often is not an option for multi-OS settings because it > > lacks boot selection (through FreeBSD's boot manager), and > > the support across different operating systems (for example, > > read partition of of OS 1 from OS 2) sometimes causes trouble > > when GPT is involved. > > > > > > > >> Using MBR, you get up to 4 partitions, of which one may be > >> an extended boot record. That partition is a container for > >> logical-partition data, not a partition that can be mounted > >> or copied to or from. > > The "DOS extended partition" (which contains "logical volumes") > > is not to be addressed directly; instead the "logical volumes" > > inside it are. And that's completely okay for non-bootable > > partitions (such as data partitions). So basically there are > > 3 "DOS primary partitions" (bootable - 3 systems), one "slot" > > for the "DOS extended partition", and inside it, any further > > partitions needed, for example shared /home partitions for > > Linux. > > > > FreeBSD itself does not need any of this. ;-) > > > > > > > >> It seems to me the EBR partition would be s1, s2, s3, or s4 > >> but no higher. I'd need to see your full partition table > >> data, such as you get with "fdisk -lu" in Linux, or you can > >> use gpart with "show" in FreeBSD. > > If I remember the numbering system correctly, s1 - s4 are > > reserved for "DOS primary partitions" - slices. The "logical > > volumes" as well as the "DOS extended partition" containing > > them have a higher "s value". > > > > > > > >> Maybe you have the wrong partition name (ada0s5)? You can > >> go to the loader prompt and get a rough idea of what's in > >> the partitions, and change the root partition to boot into. > > So if ada0s5 is the "DOS extended partition", it's absolutely > > understandable that no partition (read: slice) can be found. > > I think the problem here is that the number is wrong. It's > > worth verifying the correct numbers with gpart. The "logical > > volumes" that need to be addressed (as a "slice equivalent") > > then probably should be ada0s6 and so on. > > > > > > > >> I have created logical partitions with Linux fdisk but never > >> any BSD fdisk. I believe there is a linuxfdisk in FreeBSD > >> ports, category would be sysutils to the best of my memory. > > In the past, I used FreeBSD's ye olde fdisk for partition > > creation, it worked, but the common suggestion was to use > > the OS that would be _using_ the partition for initializing > > it, and adding the required file systems. WIth goart, however, > > this should basically work. > > > > > > > > Thomas's idea worked. sysutils/linuxfdisk is able to create/delete > logical volumes > > under FreeBSD, when FreeBSD gpart itself cannot. That's why tools like GPartEd (for example on the UBCD) are a much better solution that what FreeBSD includes natively. It would be nice to have that Linux-specific functionality implemented in FreeBSD's stock gpart, so all steps of disk initialization can be done with FreeBSD (and scripted). > And I completely agree with Polytropon that boot0 is much better for > multi-OS systems, but boot0 works only on MBR - which is why I never use > GPT. Definitely. It's simple and predictable, doesn't require any maintenance (like GRUB), and works with everything that is MBR-based. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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For example, … CUPS … Do you still have messages from the time of the incident? ls -hl /var/log/messages* pkg-related messages should help to explain things. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 1 23:44:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A75B1E3E06 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 23:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47p76W1hMzz4WjS for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 23:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id 6BB744E71D; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:44:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Substituting horizontal tab characters in vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <61188.1577922242.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:44:02 -0800 Message-ID: <61189.1577922242@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47p76W1hMzz4WjS X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-3.00)[ip: (-7.88), ipnet: 69.62.128.0/17(-3.94), asn: 14051(-3.13), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 23:44:04 -0000 Yes, I'm a holdout. After all these years I still use vi. Why not? It works! But ever since "upgraded" to 12.0-RELEASE (from 9.1) I have been hitting my head on one annoying little problem with vi, and I wonder if anyone can tell me what the fix or workaround is. Quiet simply, it used to be possible to use vi to make substitutions for horizontal tab characters, say for example in the current line, by just typing : (colon) to get to the vi "command prompt" and then typing "s" (substitute command) followed by some delimiter, e.g. forward slash, and then just hitting the tab key on my keyboard, followed by a closing delimiter and then my substitution text followed by yet another closing delimiter. Now this doesn't work anymore. Now, vi, while in "command mode" won't even allow me to hit the tab key anymore! It just sits there and blinks at me as if I hadn't touched the keyboard at all. Funny thing though, I just now checked and realized that I *can* still get it to perform substitutions for horizontal tab characters, but I have to go through some rather silly gyrations in order to even enter the horizontal tab character. Specifically, I have to type in cntrl-v followed by cntrl-i. So anyway, is there some way of restoring the old behavior so that I can go back to just using the tab key in a straiightforward and intutive fashion? Regards, rfg P.S. This is not a big problem, but I really do wish that people wouldn't break standard tools like vi as they are "upgrading" them. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 01:51:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D59F1E6EEB for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 01:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47p9xC3BfZz4dX7 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 01:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id EF12E4E71D; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 17:51:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Getting around goofy package dependencies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <63075.1577929869.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:51:09 -0800 Message-ID: <63076.1577929869@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47p9xC3BfZz4dX7 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-3.01)[ip: (-7.91), ipnet: 69.62.128.0/17(-3.96), asn: 14051(-3.15), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 01:51:12 -0000 I am having a feeling of deja vu because I'm sure I have been here before. I need to use a package named p5-Net-IDN-Encode on one of my FreeBSD 12.0 systems. I tried to just install it with pkg add but that didn't work becaise I had an older version of perl5 installed and p5-Net-IDN-Encode wanted a newer one. So I installed the latest per5, i.e. "perl5-5.30.0". I figured that should make me golden. Apparently I'm not that lucky, and p5-Net-IDN-Encode appars to want one very specific version of perl5, i.e. perl5-5.28.2, even though I have an even newer one. as a result, now when I try to install the p5-Net-IDN-Encode [ackage, using "pkg install" I get the following helpful notice: ======================================================================= Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. The following 2 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: p5-Net-IDN-Encode: 2.500 perl5.28: 5.28.2 Number of packages to be installed: 2 ... ======================================================================= I have tried to get around this by invoking "pkg install" with the -f option, and separately also with the -M option, but neither one made even the slightest bit of diofference. So, two questions: 1) Why do neither the -f nor -M options for "pkg install" do what the corresponding man page seems to say they will do? 2) Why is the package for p5-Net-IDN-Encode configured in a way that causes it to need *only* and *exactly* perl5-5.28.2, and why doesn't the configuration of the and p5-Net-IDN-Encode packahe allow me to install it when have an even newer version fo perl5 installed? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 02:42:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E471E84FE for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pC4f672zz3C7G for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 61022 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2020 02:42:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=ee5b.5e0d589c.k2001; i=printer-iecc.com@submit.iecc.com; bh=/5UeLXNRXhNXh7oHmA36oG7JRX2buDBWTNPHgBSSpRc=; b=WNZiWGQyrVtaFv/lG5Z94e4rlWGXxpyDwG9hylnyKDkpvKBzEtXmCUJ+nXcE1ReTewe9zCLhehwvWOPa+MTTv0brVaeVZfS9diZUkRX+OrRYj3JuB4PIWl4bcp2GaGB9xC7o4z5501JSFc/96BEaZHHHB+ItVj82HEl0kPsXGznf86mvVqInlmND2w4m+ZuiAjfpwMVCoHOlsjIwhTtuz4gS1VwJzDBuINHkrHMpPQrHZh2uSd4xYDxck6jZHJuC Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPSA (TLS1.2 ECDHE-RSA AES-256-GCM AEAD, printer@iecc.com) via TCP6; 02 Jan 2020 02:42:35 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6D14511E7720; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 21:42:35 -0500 (EST) Date: 1 Jan 2020 21:42:35 -0500 Message-Id: <20200102024235.6D14511E7720@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com Subject: Re: Getting around goofy package dependencies In-Reply-To: <63076.1577929869@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pC4f672zz3C7G X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=iecc.com header.s=ee5b.5e0d589c.k2001 header.b=WNZiWGQy; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=iecc.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johnl@iecc.com designates 2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johnl@iecc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.14 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iecc.com:s=ee5b.5e0d589c.k2001]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[iecc.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f07:1126::/64]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iecc.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iecc.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-3.64)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.67), asn: 6939(-3.57), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:42:44 -0000 In article <63076.1577929869@segfault.tristatelogic.com> you write: >======================================================================= >Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >FreeBSD repository is up to date. >All repositories are up to date. >The following 2 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): > >New packages to be INSTALLED: > p5-Net-IDN-Encode: 2.500 > perl5.28: 5.28.2 > >Number of packages to be installed: 2 Something strange is going on. On one of my 12.1 systems, which should have the same packages as 12.0, I have the default perl 5.30 and p5-Net-IDN-Encode installs and uninstalls from pkg just fine. Do you have other stuff that is downversion from the pkg defaults? It gets pretty unhappy when you don't have just the versions it expects. As a workaround, try installing that perl module from ports and see if it shows any other unexpected dependencies. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 02:46:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6781E8736 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from mail.antonovs.family (mail.antonovs.family [100.25.240.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pC8Y2ytmz3CG3 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.antonovs.family (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392CF138A30 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.antonovs.family ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.antonovs.family [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id Lk8pk_xcP5T8 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.antonovs.family (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE59138A3E for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:45:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.antonovs.family CCE59138A3E DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=antonovs.family; s=D65AA412-CB7F-11E9-A561-802C9D403B77; t=1577933158; bh=cE1b3hzu+GPBXxTrGdNSzHDrTfgUjDRWuETm69SWbPY=; h=From:To:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=hSjqHwVnw1TFqlwh0GoEKPS8XV9fQJB9WrpA/oogxn0uSqaDIu7BsTglj1/aqZUIA HUKr5qsXXpWnaYVLqKAMk/LpcwmJZKgq0Vc9IGq0edwGA4zQu6yssdHeaKm9+azKUC nN4eZL2CUvLewz+qn0Fcvgd2O4SQPlHSflC1OfSRxfL0GgYSwDkjFpa+3Dl/Hyp10f jtdc02nlibvjrNxx6f842yUwsNX+ogVjU0cZl3sl2vR+nxw36XsPW4hR14cg603jvN RgnXvYeVTIMRmyO15gDLBS4dpZbzKj1iMxJEtdaBSoKxpWbSogSu6qC9w21j5JIsO0 H44sdRnOjfOKA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antonovs.family Received: from mail.antonovs.family ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.antonovs.family [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id f6Xc4Z99yrOQ for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from t800.localnet (c-73-169-135-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.169.135.10]) by mail.antonovs.family (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E336138A30 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:45:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Ihor Antonov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting around goofy package dependencies Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:45:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3226956.QJadu78ljV@t800> In-Reply-To: <63076.1577929869@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <63076.1577929869@segfault.tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pC8Y2ytmz3CG3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=antonovs.family header.s=D65AA412-CB7F-11E9-A561-802C9D403B77 header.b=hSjqHwVn; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=antonovs.family; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ihor@antonovs.family designates 100.25.240.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ihor@antonovs.family X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.63 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[antonovs.family:s=D65AA412-CB7F-11E9-A561-802C9D403B77]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[antonovs.family:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[antonovs.family,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.63)[asn: 14618(-3.11), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:100.24.0.0/13, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[10.135.169.73.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:46:06 -0000 On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 5:51:09 PM PST Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Hi, I am not familiar with Perl at all, but here is some generic advice > I am having a feeling of deja vu because I'm sure I have been here > before. > > I need to use a package named p5-Net-IDN-Encode on one of my FreeBSD 12.0 > systems. I tried to just install it with pkg add but that didn't work > becaise I had an older version of perl5 installed and p5-Net-IDN-Encode > wanted a newer one. > > So I installed the latest per5, i.e. "perl5-5.30.0". I figured that > should make me golden. > > Apparently I'm not that lucky, and p5-Net-IDN-Encode appars to want one > very specific version of perl5, i.e. perl5-5.28.2, even though I have > an even newer one. as a result, now when I try to install the > p5-Net-IDN-Encode [ackage, using "pkg install" I get the following > helpful notice: > > ======================================================================= > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up to date. > All repositories are up to date. > The following 2 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): > > New packages to be INSTALLED: > p5-Net-IDN-Encode: 2.500 > perl5.28: 5.28.2 > > Number of packages to be installed: 2 > ... > ======================================================================= > > I have tried to get around this by invoking "pkg install" with the -f > option, and separately also with the -M option, but neither one made > even the slightest bit of diofference. > > So, two questions: > > 1) Why do neither the -f nor -M options for "pkg install" do what the > corresponding man page seems to say they will do? '-f' option is "Force the reinstallation of the package if already installed." So this has nothing to do with skipping undesired packages behaviour that you probably need. '-M' also causes perl5 to be installed for me, so maybe pkg bug? (Did not check bugs) > 2) Why is the package for p5-Net-IDN-Encode configured in a way that > causes it to need *only* and *exactly* perl5-5.28.2, and why doesn't > the configuration of the and p5-Net-IDN-Encode packahe allow me to > install it when have an even newer version fo perl5 installed? > It is a good question, without knowing specifics it is hard to answer. I look at package configuration [1] and see that package wants perl5 - no specific version there. So my guess is that the dependency is somewhere in the code of the the p5-Net-IDN-Encode package I'd try 2 things: - Try contacting package maintainer and see if you can get some help. - Try building the port yourself [2] instead of using binary package [1] https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/textproc/p5-Net-IDN-Encode/Makefile? view=markup [2] https://metacpan.org/release/Net-IDN-Encode From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 02:50:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A8C1E8A48 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47pCFS4bk6z3CPs for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id 491AC4E71D; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 18:50:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: "John Levine" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting around goofy package dependencies In-Reply-To: <20200102024235.6D14511E7720@ary.qy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <63948.1577933418.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:50:19 -0800 Message-ID: <63949.1577933419@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pCFS4bk6z3CPs X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-3.02)[ip: (-7.94), ipnet: 69.62.128.0/17(-3.97), asn: 14051(-3.16), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:50:21 -0000 In message <20200102024235.6D14511E7720@ary.qy>, you wrote: >In article <63076.1577929869@segfault.tristatelogic.com> you write: >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >>FreeBSD repository is up to date. >>All repositories are up to date. >>The following 2 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >>New packages to be INSTALLED: >> p5-Net-IDN-Encode: 2.500 >> perl5.28: 5.28.2 >> >>Number of packages to be installed: 2 > >Something strange is going on. On one of my 12.1 systems, which should h= ave t >he same >packages as 12.0, I have the default perl 5.30 and p5-Net-IDN-Encode inst= alls = >and >uninstalls from pkg just fine. > >Do you have other stuff that is downversion from the pkg defaults? It >gets pretty unhappy when you don't have just the versions it expects. > >As a workaround, try installing that perl module from ports and see if >it shows any other unexpected dependencies. I de-installed my perl5 and just left it that way. Then I tried just doing pkg intall on p5-Net-IDN-Encode. Now, guess which version of perl5 the pkg system decided to automagically install along with p5-Net-IDN-Encode. per5-5.30.0 *Something* is really bananas here. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 02:56:28 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233881E8DB5 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from p-impout001.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net (p-impout005aa.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net [47.43.26.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pCNW22fsz3Cmr for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([96.28.177.163]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id mqeqirryilLVdmqeqiONi3; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:56:20 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=bI1o382Z c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=xqrt2BZAGHte7XHhrxJgbA==:117 a=xqrt2BZAGHte7XHhrxJgbA==:17 a=HpEJnUlJZJkA:10 a=28bguoTQAAAA:8 a=aHPXOz1TQMPk-ad5cOwA:9 a=voRV_PY5qW-4FQMV9MBC:22 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:56:46 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help trying to recompile kernel with EBR functionality References: <202001011526.001FQUeA001903@r56.edvax.de> <20200101163902.60776151.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200101175734.2e5c66ba.freebsd@edvax.de> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMkNh8l6rizxdFBfCQqB2a7fo2ZhNciOH4Kyek5gKPJRXbduqmsZhFTmsAkcCZRpGdsQ5lrQV2vHfPVXeVVb2Gc5l1aI6xC9OG0ZZm7kRr4F8xucx/YE djffNVXlxoGvoxqRRTf8y7/7Co5FuuhTpmxPWLhgATpZggbS/IoHbVpwlkCILKPJjTWn786MlgWU3g== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pCNW22fsz3Cmr X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mueller6722@twc.com designates 47.43.26.136 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mueller6722@twc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.92 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[163.177.28.96.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:47.43.26.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.79)[0.788,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; MISSING_MID(2.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.930,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:40294, ipnet:47.43.24.0/21, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[asn: 40294(1.17), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:56:28 -0000 > That's why tools like GPartEd (for example on the UBCD) are > a much better solution that what FreeBSD includes natively. > It would be nice to have that Linux-specific functionality > implemented in FreeBSD's stock gpart, so all steps of disk > initialization can be done with FreeBSD (and scripted). > > And I completely agree with Polytropon that boot0 is much better for > > multi-OS systems, but boot0 works only on MBR - which is why I never use > GPT. > Definitely. It's simple and predictable, doesn't require any > maintenance (like GRUB), and works with everything that is > MBR-based. > Polytropon For GPT partitioning on Linux. FreeBSD, MS-Windows and macOS, there is Rod Smith's gptfdisk, included in FreeBSD ports in category sysutils (www.rodsbooks.com). I use multiple OSes and versions, so three primary partitions that I get with MBR are woefully insufficient. Besides, I want to be compatible with UEFI. I use Super Grub Disk formerly included on System Rescue CD to boot and choose, suppose I could possibly use grub-mkrescue from a newer System Rescue CD. But I aim to move over to UEFI. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 09:59:22 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887431F333B for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 09:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pNmT44QNz4Bxm for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 09:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.11.148]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M6m5o-1ioZYI3Gf8-008GAa; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 10:59:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 10:59:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Substituting horizontal tab characters in vi Message-Id: <20200102105916.67956873.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <61189.1577922242@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <61189.1577922242@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:N42+da3oIgytl7u8AqR10eVNEPjAL4/RrU2BfKJByp8N8Q/OJC+ 4DUacgU3f5OVnEwYsbQMmUvq4ZvMuJ1F/DCEdpelGLafKWhL9Lu1ZaQq0cvD1u4OXuzXZf3 ir7aWv0MAxSapUaYau0WYEG4p+ktxyzUFSyF13CKgdLqrZdvjAm4qtARt7TXZn5fudFIOVp qRK41E4GbG7+QneF0v4OA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+AK3kgu5vEk=:7XF+dhGGb8R4GfGFEk6fdu DPMeWR7wkJnNAi7tIm6QcV2uTuNOQhPnUPAjGwHs1ga9ZEgkVSNFuVlvM+dMEk8GRMIKpQH52 2V8if14xHlkRhnv6wJccqaWlzNcx6M9FZI76g2gH+Bqm2rfoxZblFMLPj7N/4lEx+FyIrF8N7 nZFFPD9W94ohWmz61pO4EOLATQKqEh7YGuTZxkxb/iYnKRsaIPegX+SgTwnw95qk4a4+S5sBE MCXnvzJ4AoCbfAtVsmyUUx+cr/TJOvL8c9LLogFyUYNEuF2edCkseYnZBL1wlFJMU+GYJ86Aj b7J9aWM4VvKXdWUszd6n21B/7E2aB6corYax5Nu4yhRx9KbXFUSAyIQngVdGUhY0vT1U1gUSy uN38tL3raTTzwLIOFDptZXSxmxY4rjZodAWGltNJu6REa+wktz84wi82ePYKHUyH5yZT0ATKh hGL5vAJOPV4qKFN3AjZyt/1HWfeIHtOTFNd6cF90qH1SvmRPMhOr7UFnWMSdtftNv9MP6xKf2 EWudCQqKoGJpkOo8EGLLq5O8pD3P+F6a+GqvZU4hroc6C2U9kLMc3HX9QBnqHrbJFgbTdz1Ys GY9BuwOmK9grkTuB/syLsnxwSp3Lz0+y++EzOLMM1q7nxZ3RcZrzJk8L8K0PsgqbeOr3eWIUe 8zh8O/5BEJxpLxN2TXakWoPIek19BfAh9TvXkGJQS0qiOAoTZx8MWTIaQDcfYLVv9yHkuRnFl sLvEHhFNBzNFuoRqgZZ2fE58tHijXO+o0xQpCwofMORFsp7rfo4RhZlC6LoDL1YB1Zq4KIM7z xZpJ3f8Lcy7Tddr6HHPapHNBdcU174f7gfCz60cgOJ1X1NkaggoZJHF2kg7/gsjPP/AYrGZcl zHnNW2uKEuoY9NNN/ctQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pNmT44QNz4Bxm X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.24) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.91 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[148.11.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.59)[0.593,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.77)[0.772,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.14)[ip: (-0.34), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.17), asn: 8560(2.23), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 09:59:22 -0000 On Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:44:02 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Yes, I'm a holdout. After all these years I still use vi. Why not? > It works! > > But ever since "upgraded" to 12.0-RELEASE (from 9.1) I have been hitting > my head on one annoying little problem with vi, and I wonder if anyone > can tell me what the fix or workaround is. > > Quiet simply, it used to be possible to use vi to make substitutions for > horizontal tab characters, say for example in the current line, by just > typing : (colon) to get to the vi "command prompt" and then typing "s" > (substitute command) followed by some delimiter, e.g. forward slash, > and then just hitting the tab key on my keyboard, followed by a closing > delimiter and then my substitution text followed by yet another closing > delimiter. > > Now this doesn't work anymore. Now, vi, while in "command mode" won't > even allow me to hit the tab key anymore! It just sits there and blinks > at me as if I hadn't touched the keyboard at all. Funny thing though, > I just now checked and realized that I *can* still get it to perform > substitutions for horizontal tab characters, but I have to go through > some rather silly gyrations in order to even enter the horizontal tab > character. Specifically, I have to type in cntrl-v followed by cntrl-i. I can confirm this on FreeBSD 12.0-p7. Additionally, you can use :s//something/ (i. e., use TAB key instead of Ctrl+I). However, when I use vim or gvim, the old input method (using the _actual_ TAB key without ^V) works as expected, even though the tab "character" itself is displayed as ^I in the replacement rule, which then looks like :s/^I/something/. As I have access to an older FreeBSD system, I can confirm that stock vi of that time supports directly inputting the TAB, which on 12.0 doesn't seem to work anymore. The replacement rule looks like :s/ /something/ (using the TAB key advances the cursor to the next tabstop in the command input area). Sidenote: Both tested in X terminals (classic xterm). > So anyway, is there some way of restoring the old behavior so that I can > go back to just using the tab key in a straiightforward and intutive > fashion? Is using vim an option for you? > P.S. This is not a big problem, but I really do wish that people wouldn't > break standard tools like vi as they are "upgrading" them. Lots of things disimprove or break during upgrading... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Guilmette" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Substituting horizontal tab characters in vi Message-Id: <20200102105944.20fa6d39e669c9294eb01bec@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200102105916.67956873.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <61189.1577922242@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200102105916.67956873.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pQ6J2MSQz4GZ4 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=Z4YsKVrL; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.936,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.14)[ip: (-0.37), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.69), asn: 7381(0.41), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 10:59:53 -0000 On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 10:59:16 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > I can confirm this on FreeBSD 12.0-p7. Additionally, you can > use :s//something/ (i. e., use TAB key instead of > Ctrl+I). I've used ^V in that situation for decades because alone didn't work (probably on the first version of vi I ever used), it comes as some surprise that I didn't need to :) -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 14:00:58 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF381F7F0E for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) Received: from mail.irk.ru (relay2.dsi.ru [195.206.40.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pV7B299Pz4Rq5 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=irk.ru; s=dkim; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID :Subject:From:To; bh=eJWgCSo7uCI7KRlQRVCalryObSOAFLh8AelZG0ubHM0=; b=cmdsEy6V 4yLM3R+yOZC0nrda2hUHLtLW7f/tPVwjwsLfi7hSUx4oVXntuWhngEFl/JVLjJrCSJC2SKycIoB5Y GO8WY7rIJQZ+/mrGuTjGWnGQ/jB9njz8Pw4Ir00s8ec+mXP36Rui3Cx47Ff+q3NslwsaFyKP3fdYH zYwIkj0PY=; Received: from [194.176.114.54] (helo=[192.168.1.130]) by mail.irk.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1in0oI-000Nk5-Hw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 21:46:46 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: thor Subject: Src of any simple data plotting graphic program under X-Windows needed Message-ID: <9e461c4b-bd0e-8c3e-5b78-77d59afcc6a5@irk.ru> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:00:49 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pV7B299Pz4Rq5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=irk.ru header.s=dkim header.b=cmdsEy6V; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=irk.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of thor@irk.ru designates 195.206.40.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=thor@irk.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[irk.ru:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.25)[ip: (-8.73), ipnet: 195.206.32.0/19(4.16), asn: 8345(3.32), country: RU(0.01)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[irk.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[irk.ru,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[175.40.206.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8345, ipnet:195.206.32.0/19, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:00:58 -0000 Hello! I need some specialized program that should just read a data file and plot it in X-windows. No dependencies, no toolkits - just an absolutely bare minimum. I just have neither a disk space on target system for any specialized toolkits nor time to study them. (Really, the existence of Windows closed source program is the only thing that keeps us under Windows XP). Long time ago (some 20 years or so) in FreeBSD 3 times I used a primitive program named xperfmon3 that plotted the current processor use etc but it expired due to absence of a maintainer and I cannot find it. Are there in port tree any similar simple programs that could be used as a prototype? Yours sincerely Anatoly From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 14:29:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDD41D0EB3 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pVm55Vcgz4TWk for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:29:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.11.148]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MzTCy-1jhzqB1dTs-00vKsx; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:29:19 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:29:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: thor Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Src of any simple data plotting graphic program under X-Windows needed Message-Id: <20200102152914.e98bb8ee.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9e461c4b-bd0e-8c3e-5b78-77d59afcc6a5@irk.ru> References: <9e461c4b-bd0e-8c3e-5b78-77d59afcc6a5@irk.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qM/YsneMulUYH/c6A39rclaiIvD1nOIqlTJsvqW7DxAMhHZSRoR mKPqNEqLPsrVFundPckVja8wBTfV/A9IGfCNHJXTETDV7KSF+QheiaVs1WPC2J5fet2lxrs PkkZcyPn8C7AcMyXyaC++UaaCVD6grLm9ZDIFNXOf/WW22UfRXkOvLbHi4NnB1/QxrWo9Dw 1V2oVXn3ZJWLX7DbmcCeA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RTPHw815hhg=:jylN+GpICtJoFvSB3qLcrs m2W/ZfHYZxv/tyJkwqr8hmj3dptsreBloRic4BafVJ9WBZRGWTk0gT/vTeaUue0G8pVN0lffC Bg5sIYo0TpcTW6YcYwxSQu40G9N4dhlrG2DxkWTmjoW8xsKbYWAtiAZi6q7JNV1QPjD8Cm3wV uAfsAhhutEggY/3EKWmZGsPhyMQu4M/RSS+UWpk9XbJK/ugMxJgqpazRwGe5Zj76uANxkGAPN j4zzhXTo+5/uMsm7MJPReZUG9fQD7Hh8rPtLyad9Ub22P78j6B2o2KBLkomQZyACbNXNZmvPZ iiJ6nL5/Y5FefobrACkoMUvr+Ap7T5rWfDku4tex/zfw6BASEyIaNKc/z81y/l9+PWrsEeol6 gsfMkPTaX1PcS80bOz0i++5P/wskWCUFzjlya5S0ANxJ+DHvqzW1Q8stR0U1JvPHpJtV3qj+G eIGlIOszjm2nztbgYjCwyBvNi1h281nR2TW+s0xRPAvfkMydZG7LbJmj+J5gFYJ/ZdjnAY8kf 055w/meZKz74CsIQU8WNy9FD1wKGrW8fYm6nGUHdQ+HuxI7qiLH2a0/76AYko3mnFzkXhFip8 sFxbXhBMuG/k5wLAP9azUNHs/5QFgmIXbVbkSFDAr3zu6jCVupQHeIx2WLjOuZ0PkkAQfjP+r mkdjjWZ0sLQVP5N5XVic8wLTmhr2DxVkdabFXQP3vP1xp9WVtmGveWRB1jqH7O5iGs4RV3yn3 utglXS3Dllzs//Nd86PHHRK2FxIJE/7kXgZ7AiPgBcjtR15Tuy6qHhHwxVSMGEjxAyncUC6a0 +mQ99viu6IUTzTvjJ1dgdWa54dr/iJxgp0PvxuljIPrtbutp2rLDvUvPvZEqXVvfyvAPIgCIU JuHNkNG2AoKXnpr3NsuA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pVm55Vcgz4TWk X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.31 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[148.11.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.71)[0.712,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.91)[0.913,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.28)[ip: (0.37), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.17), asn: 8560(2.23), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:29:26 -0000 On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:00:49 +0800, thor wrote: > I need some specialized program that should just read a data file and > plot it in X-windows. No dependencies, no toolkits - just an absolutely > bare minimum. I just have neither a disk space on target system for any > specialized toolkits nor time to study them. I'd suggest GNUplot. It can process "linear" data as well as CSV files, and write to the X display or to an image file (or EPS). > Long time ago (some 20 years or so) in FreeBSD 3 times I used a > primitive program named xperfmon3 that plotted the current processor use > etc but it expired due to absence of a maintainer and I cannot find it. Yes, I remember that program. In case you want to plot system usage data, check out xload, xmbmon, xcpufreq. > Are there in port tree any similar simple programs that could be used as > a prototype? If your data is simple, and your displaying requirements are simple, you can probably write your own solution using toools like Perl or Python, where there are plenty of libraries and examples for data plotting. In case you don't want to deal with that, consider testing gnuplot, even though it's not exactly "lightweight" in terms of dependencies... For example, if this is your data: 1 12.5 2 13.5 3 14.8 4 14.2 5 13.2 6 14.0 7 14.9 8 13.6 9 14.9 10 15.8 11 13.3 12 13.7 You can use the following gnuplot control file to plot them: set title '2008 (12.9)' set size 3.0, 1.0 set xr [1:12] set yr [0.0:25.0] set border set grid set xtics 1, 1 set ytics 0, 5 plot '2008.dat' using 1:2 title 'BZ' with lines linewidth 5 set term postscript eps color set output '2008.eps' replot Further postprocessing is possible (in this specific case, I used awk, LaTeX, and a sh wrapper for automated document generation and data export files). Basically, you can use gnuplot without a control file - in most cases, the data files will be plotted as you expect, or you can embed the data in the control files (only useful for smaller amounts of data and "single use" situations, or for experimenting with the parameters). For similarly structured data, you can use one control file to process many input data files. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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No dependencies, no toolkits - just an absolutely > > bare minimum. I just have neither a disk space on target system for any > > specialized toolkits nor time to study them. > > I'd suggest GNUplot. It can process "linear" data as well > as CSV files, and write to the X display or to an image > file (or EPS). > > > > > Long time ago (some 20 years or so) in FreeBSD 3 times I used a > > primitive program named xperfmon3 that plotted the current processor use > > etc but it expired due to absence of a maintainer and I cannot find it. > > Yes, I remember that program. > > In case you want to plot system usage data, check out > xload, xmbmon, xcpufreq. > > > > > Are there in port tree any similar simple programs that could be used as > > a prototype? > > If your data is simple, and your displaying requirements > are simple, you can probably write your own solution using > toools like Perl or Python, where there are plenty of > libraries and examples for data plotting. In case you don't > want to deal with that, consider testing gnuplot, even though > it's not exactly "lightweight" in terms of dependencies... > > For example, if this is your data: > > 1 12.5 > 2 13.5 > 3 14.8 > 4 14.2 > 5 13.2 > 6 14.0 > 7 14.9 > 8 13.6 > 9 14.9 > 10 15.8 > 11 13.3 > 12 13.7 > > You can use the following gnuplot control file to plot them: > > set title '2008 (12.9)' > set size 3.0, 1.0 > set xr [1:12] > set yr [0.0:25.0] > set border > set grid > set xtics 1, 1 > set ytics 0, 5 > plot '2008.dat' using 1:2 title 'BZ' with lines linewidth 5 > set term postscript eps color > set output '2008.eps' > replot > > Further postprocessing is possible (in this specific case, I > used awk, LaTeX, and a sh wrapper for automated document > generation and data export files). > > Basically, you can use gnuplot without a control file - in most > cases, the data files will be plotted as you expect, or you can > embed the data in the control files (only useful for smaller > amounts of data and "single use" situations, or for experimenting > with the parameters). For similarly structured data, you can use > one control file to process many input data files. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > > gnuplot is NOT related to GNU . In its web site http://www.gnuplot.info/ http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/ http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo/ there are much material to be utilized for learning . It is a port : https://www.freshports.org/math/gnuplot/ There is another a nice program in Python : https://matplotlib.org/ It is a port : https://www.freshports.org/math/py-matplotlib/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 18:12:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A301D5E93 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 18:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firmdog@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x536.google.com (mail-ed1-x536.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::536]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pbjP3rdxz3Fjj for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 18:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firmdog@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x536.google.com with SMTP id t17so39807732eds.6 for ; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 10:12:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=PHcFkxPdHi/XHff44tVP3HdjkKoLedefVI5a2LAYZDQ=; b=b+hJ6gO6KeGOZFNLYiLFK7vKek9Jj4vahUoLB8wbZmdgqQWCMPwVcQoiPRbm45SUuB OFJljnDM7NlTHF6Yx+IrMEswyBK+xdQ7W4ffjai5KUrPRhd4rhN8XaG8+0MNsqb3fCgV t/dMZpswHEtkhZ2qYuR1hHxhPCWOLnS0aD3zkhIdMJLs5axbp7y1soOLnN9tM85k0tID idey8nJl5ak/KVCGl46QsYqM5ATnvA5pj9FFookTgidr+wDs2WB5apMJMYlH4UJwbBuZ AO8yT7c1g/mfYi2ED0WNVysNxgn5dQucY12EaJTG7X0ZYPvHAhAafIqVIZ/ykGTA0g9q yGJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PHcFkxPdHi/XHff44tVP3HdjkKoLedefVI5a2LAYZDQ=; b=e7gfnOp0migYQNhNdPq5CPoknToNg22WqHA97+CobM02d4eglUyvLkdYmo6D6td0cY +NMWMcIsUr7EAAfMdgZikxuwqfWIg310YnRh9jh/RwecfjJkYlBbT6Eiu2jm0/WD3+HT Vmvs4zL+KbVLrrIuBj8y8WvQoLgCm+c2DlzB/adrHnwqLv/5uPgW5LKTIJYCxvnX6Ilk W9B6rsf9HaSuP15AjM7dsssby5Q2OJW07mrRBY9XaR3xYC8pkyeBm2Z5t32opNE1Z1IU hSz+eDMlSb1BymuN0HST73mSWFoE8YWxGoDo8zUIk2mBsGqbmgjfb5uDrUyIU9E69HSF c1WA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU+YZ/Y23o1+x6u9oAqKWftUa0Spmkv8I1gsFYYp8aBbQ6PRsPQ aIspBGVChomkzePDMoAOZfcznnaNIf1kDAAHfxKutw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwogxBT+JCssN7YMJ5T9HyYp/nu/X6momVnJ74m6aVXWXGheLRQ2eF6an7OGYiueOxvCFj9YRXIXjjByRH2f+8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:2296:: with SMTP id p22mr91624517eja.269.1577988743641; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 10:12:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Andy Firman Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 13:12:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: perl confusion --> failed to start spamd To: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pbjP3rdxz3Fjj X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=b+hJ6gO6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of firmdog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::536 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=firmdog@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.53), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.63), asn: 15169(-1.87), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 18:12:26 -0000 Looks like it was several packages. Now I have spamassassin running again. THANKS! Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: p5-NetAddr-IP-4.079 (needed shared library changed) Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: p5-HTML-Parser-3.72 (needed shared library changed) Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: p5-Net-SSLeay-1.85 (needed shared library changed) Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: p5-Socket6-0.29 (needed shared library changed) On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1:51 PM Trond Endrest=C3=B8l < trond.endrestol@ximalas.info> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:45+0100, Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: > > > Either pkg add net-mgmt/p5-NetAddr-IP, or (forcefully) reapply > > mail/spamassassin. > > I'm sorry, that's pkg install net-mgmt/p5-NetAddr-IP. > > -- > Trond. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 22:06:59 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD82A1DC18E; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (mx1.enfer-du-nord.net [91.121.41.56]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47phw26g1zz41JJ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from [IPv6:2003:fb:4f00:e601:65e7:5617:86ea:8f7b] (p200300FB4F00E60165E7561786EA8F7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:fb:4f00:e601:65e7:5617:86ea:8f7b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47phvz4FPWztCD; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 23:06:55 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.1 at mail.enfer-du-nord.net From: Michael Grimm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: replacement of security/ipsec-tools Message-Id: <50378AC0-0A0A-4E33-961F-3D180987A8C1@ellael.org> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 23:06:53 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HELO_NO_DOMAIN, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS,RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on mail.mer-waases.lan X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47phw26g1zz41JJ X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trashcan@ellael.org has no SPF policy when checking 91.121.41.56) smtp.mailfrom=trashcan@ellael.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ellael.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RBL_MAILSPIKE_WORST(2.00)[56.41.121.91.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.10]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.97)[0.968,0]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-1.23), asn: 16276(1.89), country: FR(0.00)]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.992,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 22:06:59 -0000 [X-posted, please chose the relevant ML for such a thread] Hi, I am running ipsec-tools to implement a VPN tunnel (esp) between two = hosts for years now. But this statement on http://ipsec-tools.sourceforge.net makes me think = about an alternative: The development of ipsec-tools has been ABANDONED.=20 ipsec-tools has security issues, and you should not use it. = Please switch to a secure alternative!=20 Could you provide me with links where I could find more details about = the above mentioned 'security issues'? I want to find out, if my = specific setup has security issues at all. Thanks. What would be a secure alternative if one is needed?=20 #) security/racoon2 #) security/strongswan #) something else? What do I need? #) a VPN tunnel between two hosts #) both local networks reachable from the remote host Thanks and regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 2 22:26:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA981DCCA2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47pjLY6jDxz42x7 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: replacement of security/ipsec-tools Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:26:27 -0700 References: <50378AC0-0A0A-4E33-961F-3D180987A8C1@ellael.org> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <50378AC0-0A0A-4E33-961F-3D180987A8C1@ellael.org> Message-Id: <134AA7F0-AA99-43FF-A9D1-C378CC260E0E@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47pjLY6jDxz42x7 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.83)[-0.827,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.981,0]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[ip: (0.01), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(0.13), asn: 209(-0.02), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 22:26:31 -0000 On 02 Jan 2020, at 15:06, Michael Grimm wrote: > What would be a secure alternative if one is needed?=20 > #) security/racoon2 I did not set it up, but I have used a VPN tunnel between two LANs that = was setup with racoon, so I expect that would work between two hosts. --=20 'Is it heroic to die like this?' said Conina. 'I think it is,' he said, 'and when it comes to dying, there's only one opinion that matters.=E2=80=99 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 3 17:34:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE611F6276 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: from r2-d2.netlabs.org (r2-d2.netlabs.org [213.238.45.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qBqQ2wRmz45KZ for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: (qmail 57888 invoked by uid 89); 3 Jan 2020 17:34:40 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 57884, pid: 57886, t: 0.0323s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO whiteroom.metropolis.netlabs.org) (ml-ktk@netlabs.org@213.144.156.18) by 0 with ESMTPA; 3 Jan 2020 17:34:40 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Adrian Gschwend Subject: phpMyAdmin can't find hash() in Apache 2.4 with PHP 7.4 Message-ID: <5363c3c4-6374-b15e-cd1b-b84469724d20@netlabs.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 18:34:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qBqQ2wRmz45KZ X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml-ktk@netlabs.org has no SPF policy when checking 213.238.45.90) smtp.mailfrom=ml-ktk@netlabs.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netlabs.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.94)[0.940,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9211, ipnet:213.238.32.0/20, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.74)[ipnet: 213.238.32.0/20(4.87), asn: 9211(3.83), country: DE(-0.02)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 17:34:43 -0000 Hi group, I'm preparing a new server to migrate an old FBSD box running an old Apache version (I'm a bit late to the Apache 2.4 party...). I thought I will start with PHP 7.4, which seems to be the latest stable release. Unfortunately that does not seem to work with the latest 5.0 port of phpMyAdmin, I get this error: PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Cal l to undefined function Symfony\\Component\\DependencyInjection\\hash() in /usr/local/www/phpMyAdmin/vendor/symfony/dependenc y-injection/ContainerBuilder.php:1573\nStack trace:\n#0 /usr/local/www/phpMyAdmin/vendor/symfony/dependency-injection/Loader/ YamlFileLoader.php(150): Symfony\\Component\\DependencyInjection\\ContainerBuilder::hash('/usr/local/www/...')\n#1 /usr/local /www/phpMyAdmin/libraries/common.inc.php(94): Symfony\\Component\\DependencyInjection\\Loader\\YamlFileLoader->load('../servi ces.yml')\n#2 /usr/local/www/phpMyAdmin/index.php(23): require_once('/usr/local/www/...')\n#3 {main}\n thrown in /usr/local/ www/phpMyAdmin/vendor/symfony/dependency-injection/ContainerBuilder.php on line 1573 On that line it is using the hash() function from php. I've installed the apache php module & the necessary php extensions. According to the php 7.4 release notes, hash() is now part of core. I can run this simple test on cli with php binary: And I get a hash as expected. However, if I run the same file from Apache 2.4, I get "undefined function" as well, same like the phpMyAdmin error message above. I'm a bit lost here, how come that the version executed in Apache behaves differently than the cli binary? FYI I built all the ports myself using `synth` as I need a lot more modules in Apache. Thanks Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 3 17:41:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11401F67A3 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: from r2-d2.netlabs.org (r2-d2.netlabs.org [213.238.45.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qBzb53gkz45kl for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: (qmail 58153 invoked by uid 89); 3 Jan 2020 17:41:46 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 58148, pid: 58151, t: 0.0308s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO whiteroom.metropolis.netlabs.org) (ml-ktk@netlabs.org@213.144.156.18) by 0 with ESMTPA; 3 Jan 2020 17:41:46 -0000 Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin can't find hash() in Apache 2.4 with PHP 7.4 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5363c3c4-6374-b15e-cd1b-b84469724d20@netlabs.org> From: Adrian Gschwend Message-ID: <95088fbb-70b9-d65b-738f-ef2fec70c7ab@netlabs.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 18:41:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5363c3c4-6374-b15e-cd1b-b84469724d20@netlabs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qBzb53gkz45kl X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml-ktk@netlabs.org has no SPF policy when checking 213.238.45.90) smtp.mailfrom=ml-ktk@netlabs.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.56 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netlabs.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.93)[0.927,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9211, ipnet:213.238.32.0/20, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.73)[ipnet: 213.238.32.0/20(4.86), asn: 9211(3.82), country: DE(-0.02)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 17:41:48 -0000 On 03.01.20 18:34, Adrian Gschwend wrote: > I'm a bit lost here, how come that the version executed in Apache > behaves differently than the cli binary? Just a followup, running: print_r(get_declared_classes()); on cli returns 146 classes, running it in Apache returns only 86 of them. regards Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 3 19:48:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD011DFFCE for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 19:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne@crinc.com) Received: from crinc.com (crinc.com [72.242.50.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47qFnH1mvcz4Ghr for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 19:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne@crinc.com) From: Wayne Anschutz X-Mailer: SCO OpenServer 6.0.0 Mail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: usb tape drive issue Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:48:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <202001031348.aa02716@cri450.crinc.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qFnH1mvcz4Ghr X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wayne@crinc.com has no SPF policy when checking 72.242.50.225) smtp.mailfrom=wayne@crinc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.46 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[crinc.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.22)[0.221,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.87)[0.866,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7029, ipnet:72.242.0.0/16, country:US]; IP_SCORE(0.47)[asn: 7029(2.41), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 19:48:04 -0000 Folks, I'm new at this bsd OS, but did get an xinuos open server 10 operating which is BSD. I've managed to get everything working with some trial and error picking the correct ports for necessary libraries. The BSD os is stable version 11.3. The problem popped up when I tried to make a backup tape using a usb dat160 internal drive. After testing a lot I found that the drive would read tar and dd formats correctly. It did only a flawed read on cpio tapes. It always failed on any write with CAM errors and scsi errors. Research on the web proved that this is not an uncommon problem with usb storage devices. I am not interested in being a freeBSD test bed! I need a stable OS for my customers. My first question - would updateing to stable 12.1 solve this? If so what are the updateing pit falls? Would switching to a dat160 scsi lvd drive solve the problem? Thanks all, Wayne Anschutz Computer Resources, Inc. 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Would you be able to tell me if and for how long- FreeBSD 12 will be compatible with OpenSSL 1.0.2? We do intend to upgrade both packages but need to know the timeline given the constraint of our need to upgrade OpenSSL 1.0.2. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 3 20:58:01 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213F1E7E85 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 20:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qHKz5DY4z4MBN for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 3089 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2020 20:57:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=c0e.5e0faad0.k2001; i=printer-iecc.com@submit.iecc.com; bh=u9kiEcvL553GNVsGyZESAMPN62HOaWjY8mfVtI3USbY=; b=fLvbAq6y98ePjp3lMIgOMcJ38k68QXu+NmQkFFRzgBuQaSlr4miHKpt6MbzZW1X9r7Ti2saKLl9ZrCowG7kLrCxDBydWqZjz+6aZgT5CjDo8PNT87eAqlFug/KF6rIOSugcYw6mFskIxsmC1sFGzll3WstqJTNTs4cIPlkruFwoICCbkvd/OMuavoGrx4UJVMwZNwfO8MmXX77YIQ5k+F8V6y36yUmpNZlj7SKAQ2J8HhPdnMLpAIcv93Cn4V1/W Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPSA (TLS1.2 ECDHE-RSA AES-256-GCM AEAD, printer@iecc.com) via TCP6; 03 Jan 2020 20:57:52 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id DCBC711F1DBB; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:57:51 -0500 (EST) Date: 3 Jan 2020 15:57:51 -0500 Message-Id: <20200103205751.DCBC711F1DBB@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: uklyfe14@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD12 and OpenSSL 1.0.2 In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qHKz5DY4z4MBN X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=iecc.com header.s=c0e.5e0faad0.k2001 header.b=fLvbAq6y; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=iecc.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johnl@iecc.com designates 2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johnl@iecc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.14 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iecc.com:s=c0e.5e0faad0.k2001]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[iecc.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f07:1126::/64]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iecc.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iecc.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-3.64)[ip: (-9.90), ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.67), asn: 6939(-3.58), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 20:58:01 -0000 In article you write: >We recently purchased the support of OpenSSL 1.0.2 to extend support for >our software through OpenSSL’s deprecation while we test functionality and >compatibility with upgrading our software platform from FreeBSD 11 to 12. >Would you be able to tell me if and for how long- FreeBSD 12 will be >compatible with OpenSSL 1.0.2? We do intend to upgrade both packages but >need to know the timeline given the constraint of our need to upgrade >OpenSSL 1.0.2. There's an openssl-unsafe port that provides 1.0.2 for Freebsd 12 if you really need it. Since FreeBSD 11 will be supported for another year and a half, my advice would be to stick with 11.x while you upgrade your software to openssl 1.1. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 3 22:00:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7701EE28A for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [174.136.98.114]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.nomadlogic.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qJjW31P5z4Q0y for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 21:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from duke.nomadlogic.org (ec2-34-199-235-200.compute-1.amazonaws.com [34.199.235.200]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 898af6dd (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 3 Jan 2020 21:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: usb tape drive issue To: Wayne Anschutz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <202001031348.aa02716@cri450.crinc.com> From: Pete Wright Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:59:50 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202001031348.aa02716@cri450.crinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qJjW31P5z4Q0y X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pete@nomadlogic.org designates 174.136.98.114 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@nomadlogic.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[nomadlogic.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-9.30), ipnet: 174.136.96.0/20(-3.82), asn: 25795(-0.31), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:174.136.96.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:00:00 -0000 On 1/3/20 11:48 AM, Wayne Anschutz wrote: > Folks, > > I'm new at this bsd OS, but did get an xinuos open server 10 operating > which is BSD. I've managed to get everything working with some trial and > error picking the correct ports for necessary libraries. The BSD os is > stable version 11.3. > > The problem popped up when I tried to make a backup tape using a usb dat160 > internal drive. After testing a lot I found that the drive would read > tar and dd formats correctly. It did only a flawed read on cpio tapes. It > always failed on any write with CAM errors and scsi errors. Research on > the web proved that this is not an uncommon problem with usb storage > devices. I am not interested in being a freeBSD test bed! I need a stable > OS for my customers. > > My first question - would updateing to stable 12.1 solve this? If so what > are the updateing pit falls? Would switching to a dat160 scsi lvd drive > solve the problem? I think the best next step would be if you could provide additional debugging information.  for example: - what is the model number of the tape drive in question?  also, what does the output of "usbconfig" look like when the device is attached? - can you share an example of the errors when you are running cpio? also relevant messages from "dmesg" would be helpful here as well. - also if you can share the cpio commands you are running that would be helpful as well. Cheers, -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 3 22:46:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FB81F2BD6 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne@crinc.com) Received: from crinc.com (crinc.com [72.242.50.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47qKl90Hf8z4Sch for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne@crinc.com) From: Wayne Anschutz X-Mailer: SCO OpenServer 6.0.0 Mail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, pete@nomadlogic.org Subject: Re: usb tape drive issue Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 16:46:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <202001031646.aa04689@cri450.crinc.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qKl90Hf8z4Sch X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wayne@crinc.com has no SPF policy when checking 72.242.50.225) smtp.mailfrom=wayne@crinc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[crinc.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.80)[0.805,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.997,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7029, ipnet:72.242.0.0/16, country:US]; IP_SCORE(0.47)[asn: 7029(2.40), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:46:30 -0000 Pete, I'll give you what I can. Write commands tested from the /etc directory find . -depth | cpio -ocB -O /dev/sa0 tar cvf /dev/sa0 * find . | cpio -ocB | dd bs=5120 of=/dev/sa0 usbconfig pertinent line ugen0.3 at usbus0, cfg=0, md=HOST spd=HIGH(480Mbps) pwr=on (2ma) It's interesting to note the tape was sold to me as Quantum and it does have a Quantum face plate which is identical to another drive I have which is HP. I do not have the model and I'm not on site now. >From dmesg a sampling of the errors and a device report. a0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE FILEMARKS(6). CDB: 10 00 00 00 02 00 (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ POSITION. CDB: 34 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 (SCSI bus reset occu rred) (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (per sense data) (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): failed to write terminating filemark(s) (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): REWIND. CDB: 01 00 00 00 00 00 (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): REWIND. CDB: 01 00 00 00 00 00 (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 (SCSI bus reset occu rred) (sa0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (per sense data)a0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device sa0: Serial Number 4855313296425633 sa0: 40.000MB/s transfers Pete, I hope that helps - I have to decide soon if this can fixed or if different tape interface would work? Wayne -------------------original message------------ Subject: Re: usb tape drive issue To: Wayne Anschutz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pete Wright Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:59:50 -0800 On 1/3/20 11:48 AM, Wayne Anschutz wrote: > Folks, > > I'm new at this bsd OS, but did get an xinuos open server 10 operating > which is BSD. I've managed to get everything working with some trial and > error picking the correct ports for necessary libraries. The BSD os is > stable version 11.3. > > The problem popped up when I tried to make a backup tape using a usb dat160 > internal drive. After testing a lot I found that the drive would read > tar and dd formats correctly. It did only a flawed read on cpio tapes. It > always failed on any write with CAM errors and scsi errors. Research on > the web proved that this is not an uncommon problem with usb storage > devices. I am not interested in being a freeBSD test bed! I need a stable > OS for my customers. > > My first question - would updateing to stable 12.1 solve this? If so what > are the updateing pit falls? Would switching to a dat160 scsi lvd drive > solve the problem? I think the best next step would be if you could provide additional debugging information.B for example: - what is the model number of the tape drive in question?B also, what does the output of "usbconfig" look like when the device is attached? - can you share an example of the errors when you are running cpio? also relevant messages from "dmesg" would be helpful here as well. - also if you can share the cpio commands you are running that would be helpful as well. Cheers, -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 3 23:49:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB091D01BF for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 23:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qM7R0D98z4WBb for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 23:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 003NmxSP009287 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2020 16:48:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) From: Gary Aitken Subject: radeon X startup problem Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <1be51f7b-1418-821c-2a9d-72394bd6d1ab@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 16:48:12 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Fri, 03 Jan 2020 16:48:59 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qM7R0D98z4WBb X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.32)[ip: (-8.70), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.35), asn: 21947(-3.48), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 23:49:08 -0000 Hi all, Running 11.3-RELEASE-p3 I just had a power failure on a machine without a ups (temporary quarters due to broken leg). The machine had been up since about Nov 6 when it was updated, running X the whole time I think. Unfortunately, ufs filesystems were messed up. Rebooted single user and ran fsck, things came up but radeon driver no longer loads. Unfortunately I don't have the last good log file from when it did load to compare with. Files in /lost+found are all zero length. from dmesg: [drm] Initialized [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. drmn0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drmn0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: child drmn0 requested pci_enable_io [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (REDWOOD 0x1002:0x68DA 0x1545:0x5550 0x00). [drm] register mmio base: 0xFE9E0000 [drm] register mmio size: 131072 [drm:radeon_device_init] Unable to find PCI I/O BAR [drm:radeon_atombios_init] Unable to find PCI I/O BAR; using MMIO for ATOM IIO ATOM BIOS: REDWOOD drmn0: VRAM: 1024M 0x0000000000000000 - 0x000000003FFFFFFF (1024M used) drmn0: GTT: 1024M 0x0000000040000000 - 0x000000007FFFFFFF [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=1024M, BAR=256M [drm] RAM width 128bits DDR [drm:radeon_ttm_global_init] Failed setting up TTM memory accounting subsystem. drmn0: Fatal error during GPU init [drm] radeon: finishing device. [TTM] Memory type 2 has not been initialized device_attach: drmn0 attach returned 12 kldstat: Id Refs Address Size Name 1 34 0xffffffff80200000 206c1f8 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff8226e000 1df50 geom_journal.ko 3 1 0xffffffff82421000 4190 linprocfs.ko 4 1 0xffffffff82426000 2f78 linux_common.ko 5 1 0xffffffff82429000 15e549 radeonkms.ko 6 1 0xffffffff82588000 71530 drm.ko 7 4 0xffffffff825fa000 f750 linuxkpi.ko 8 3 0xffffffff8260a000 d490 linuxkpi_gplv2.ko 9 2 0xffffffff82618000 6b8 debugfs.ko 10 1 0xffffffff82619000 2408 ums.ko 11 1 0xffffffff8261c000 76cc tmpfs.ko From Xorg.0.log: [ 11094.913] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported. [ 11094.913] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 11094.913] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting [ 11094.913] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 11094.913] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for scfb [ 11094.913] scfb trace: probe start [ 11094.913] scfb trace: probe done [ 11094.913] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support [ 11094.913] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 11094.913] (II) UnloadModule: "radeon" [ 11094.913] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. ... [ 11095.515] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable [ 11095.515] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering xorg.conf has no Card0 set up, but I'm pretty sure it was running ok without it before. The particular device is a Radeon 5500, which is not (no longer?) listed in the supported devices from the driver; but I'm "somewhat confident" that it was working before because of a hardware mode change which caused the type on the display at boot time to change to a much smaller font. I have a commented out line in xorg.conf that says "Redwood PRO [Radeon 5500 series]" which I think is what Xorg.0.log used to show in the list of supported devices but no longer does. Thoughts on how to proceed? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 4 01:00:45 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BACE1D8729 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 01:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qNk41Hlpz4Zjt for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 01:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD12 and OpenSSL 1.0.2 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 18:00:42 -0700 References: <20200103205751.DCBC711F1DBB@ary.qy> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20200103205751.DCBC711F1DBB@ary.qy> Message-Id: <540688E8-4DBC-401B-BE58-81DD02D3BAB9@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qNk41Hlpz4Zjt X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.42 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[ip: (-0.13), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(0.06), asn: 209(-0.02), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 01:00:45 -0000 On 03 Jan 2020, at 13:57, John Levine wrote: > Since FreeBSD 11 will be supported for another year and a half, my > advice would be to stick with 11.x while you upgrade your software to > openssl 1.1. How is that helpful? The changes to openssl apply to FreeBSD 11. -- Forget the Joneses. I can't keep up with The Simpsons. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 4 05:53:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE91E5F70 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 05:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) Received: from mail.irk.ru (relay2.dsi.ru [195.206.40.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qWDG4vKFz3LQ4 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 05:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=irk.ru; s=dkim; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=3+iIBVtafkGZ0ji9YQ5qGcpOtbbN1at1B9GdB6qpqbQ=; b=cGWUyEwktXS2NrBCWcHoWsLMIL JGszAb+EeueFv1PtHB2j+tvO2TT+0NztdHeDg+twh+/xkX+dyXMX1mqD8wV0BMviGNRGsYkTdbprm J/MQJ+UnHXsyQnJArKVRhFbg7ZV/HHs7VPK9MlA2kyqFP7hYg4Dt6Ng+a4yHkqF+EY8g=; Received: from [194.176.114.54] (helo=[192.168.1.130]) by mail.irk.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1inc9z-00080t-2y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2020 13:39:39 +0800 Subject: Re: usb tape drive issue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <202001031348.aa02716@cri450.crinc.com> From: thor Message-ID: <5d0e3225-ab26-857e-8c0f-0cad0aa9029b@irk.ru> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 13:53:44 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202001031348.aa02716@cri450.crinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qWDG4vKFz3LQ4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=irk.ru header.s=dkim header.b=cGWUyEwk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=irk.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of thor@irk.ru designates 195.206.40.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=thor@irk.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[irk.ru:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.36)[ip: (-9.00), ipnet: 195.206.32.0/19(4.00), asn: 8345(3.20), country: RU(0.01)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[irk.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[irk.ru,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[175.40.206.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8345, ipnet:195.206.32.0/19, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 05:53:53 -0000 Hello! Well, it's quite possible that the problem is with the block size which could be unsupported. The second problem could be the block size set by mt command or physical limit which is incompatible with cpio requirement. Use "mt rblim" and "mt blocksize NNNN". There are different reports about cpio, some tell that they use only 512 bytes while tar uses 10240 and dd uses any size. You could simulate the problem using dd with different block sizes. Then, while I believe that USB is NOT a professional interface I think it's not an USB problem. Have you analyzed the error messages, what are the errors? I think that SCSI LVD nears end of life. So unless you already have it it would be quite useless. I'd recommend instead a used LTO-4 drive or, if you have enough money, any newer level one, with SAS or FC interface. I had no problems with them. You should look for a model with a Single Character Display (IBM). For SAS I've tried HP P-400 and DELL PERC-6/i, PERC is preferred but be warned that they both do NOT support HDDs bigger than 2 terabytes. I have ServeRaid M5015 but have not tried it. For FC interface I recommend Qlogic controllers. Emulex controllers are strongly discouraged. You also need a cable (Double orange cable with gray LC connectors. Yellow cable with blue connectors is NOT OK!!!) If the system hangups during boot it could be necessary to disconnect the FC cable before boot and reconnect it after boot or power down the drive during boot. The LTO drives are to be tuned to fixed or variable block sizes according to your needs, and they use logical blocks so you don't lose too much when you use outdated programs writing too short blocks. LTO drives consume up to 50W of power and require good air flow for cooling!!! Be warned that data rate is higher than the one of HDD of similar age. So maybe it's better to make an archive to the file on separate HDD and then write it separately. You also need a cleaning cartridge. On 01/04/20 03:48, Wayne Anschutz wrote: > Folks, > > I'm new at this bsd OS, but did get an xinuos open server 10 operating > which is BSD. I've managed to get everything working with some trial and > error picking the correct ports for necessary libraries. The BSD os is > stable version 11.3. > > The problem popped up when I tried to make a backup tape using a usb dat160 > internal drive. After testing a lot I found that the drive would read > tar and dd formats correctly. It did only a flawed read on cpio tapes. It > always failed on any write with CAM errors and scsi errors. Research on > the web proved that this is not an uncommon problem with usb storage > devices. I am not interested in being a freeBSD test bed! I need a stable > OS for my customers. > > My first question - would updateing to stable 12.1 solve this? If so what > are the updateing pit falls? 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 68sm18183797qkj.102.2020.01.04.05.55.17 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 04 Jan 2020 05:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47qjvm4pQFz2xxZ for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:55:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:54:43 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Poudriere erased my system Message-ID: <20200104085443.000007ab@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/xIDe.IsNeZZ1rvAh1gyJhHM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qjvs0tq2z4GKs X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=rfadZA+e; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.28 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.68)[ip: (-9.36), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.14), asn: 15169(-1.86), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 13:55:22 -0000 --Sig_/xIDe.IsNeZZ1rvAh1gyJhHM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 amd64 Well, another day, another ordeal. =E2=80=9Cpoudriere=E2=80=99 hosed my sys= tem. I started out by making the changes to the make.conf file required for =E2=80=9Copenssl=E2=80=9D. I double-checked, and that appeared correct. I t= hen ran =E2=80=98poudriere=E2=80=99 to update my system. Then the shit hit the fan.= =E2=80=9CPoudriere=E2=80=9D proceeded to delete virtually every major application on my machine, and a few minor ones, AND then refused to install them for me manually. I lost 1) postfix, 2) dovecot 3) kde5 4) gnupg, etcetera. It also removed MySQL-80 from the system. Naturally, it refused to reinstall it again. Apparently, there is a vulnerability and poudriere simply refused to build it and removes everything that depends on it sans warning. THAT SUCKS! I had to manually rebuild my system, including using: make DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=3Dyes to get MySQL built. I am also getting these friendly warnings regarding openssl: /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so is linked to /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.11 from security/openssl but it is not declared as a dependency Error: /usr/local/lib/mysql/plugin/authentication_ldap_sasl_client.so is linked to /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.3 from security/cyrus-sasl2 but it is not declared as a dependency Warning: you need LIB_DEPENDS+=3Dlibsasl2.so:security/cyrus-sasl2 There are lots more; that is just a sampling. I am not sure why MySQL80 has not been updated. There is a newer version available. Poudriere should not just wipe-out a system without at least asking for permission first. A friendly warning message like: =E2=80=9CYOUR SYSTEM IS ABOUT TO BE ERASED =E2=80=93 DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THIS?=E2=80=9D would = be charming. Anyway, how can I add the =E2=80=9CDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=3Dyes=E2=80=9D s= o poudriere does not erase my system again? Please, do not tell me to update FreeBSD to version 12. I can=E2=80=99t. There are at least two BUG reports concerning this with no fix in sight. < https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666> --=20 Jerry --Sig_/xIDe.IsNeZZ1rvAh1gyJhHM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl4QmSsACgkQOHMGOIfe xWR4ggf7BcDivsgvsZHt2o1yfXS4xx4HiX6P54Ty30Z/wHVWA1LAMQRL1trNZHSv llyDJyK7+IlUz8W+YNVdBRiYHQc8IavDu6XZqGcBib5XsihyWsMkyuYdOspxl96I rawaHqwt3kO9q94fX37mvT9iTzyjtTE2KLKJ830R5ivYiILHOk980/Y2u2eWNFXh NP5KuN4sDpD4EN38cgYEQzcCkoqZQzXYT8R9MNtX1O4xY96x0ILi7IPUsvQJRuTg zL8dzsKEJapheDdG8rU8OD950P9UxHLDucTB16nYCL0OYFx6mqBuFKQeHLDHTmRO +4Gv2SJcbRYXsDA+0LmzWLRGmJXDIQ== =/rnb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/xIDe.IsNeZZ1rvAh1gyJhHM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 4 14:38:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FFF1D3F40 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 14:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47qkt52Fgyz4JJQ for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 14:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id n21so42625443ioo.10 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2020 06:38:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fscXWTRCC8NasvrjYzgs7YB3CFYLvcAWkueD6TOPt4Q=; b=I5qLHeOP0WOOTOAgNVSIVgBmR5jGbPjLyIfheaMtdPAWFswEL2EG6BQ+cG9wOQNjnP qLlqV5S4dtg+DnKmeRpF/tmUW2Oz3SrMzNe4VO8vbYP5MRjLTzYP03MLfF3UPfnC4N2T dnNDJvLVX7FfqYX5QnGyUoOgvvioic03/g8gDMpwlueThGIzLCaxi6WqFw5a+VFs0NBS diN5I5tB1K8zxaGL5fFFUA1gEoyrU9PaQDjnEvKPXA1WHdJfq5gwA5PU95I96gYYAIAV sya0dNz3RJxYgxupBWs48GtVK1Ou9ohW4AtDqoFuNcQA/MFhcI/0D+ZAulKW007kyl8K fu9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=fscXWTRCC8NasvrjYzgs7YB3CFYLvcAWkueD6TOPt4Q=; b=o8p+lR75noINX+aXGGykEh/WrJ8smkGRl7Fi+45NdSVFkH4sQKHxHsKljzxd1a52r0 jEbYHSCF1CxbP0Po33BRtMWVM9EkNCfViei2NM8vfG4/vTf9daQDTxUVWPaLUs+6uYzP T4SGM3jXBj8+SWBDAiB61NuxshV0rqnTA87ydn8g27WRqgRXuLkUZ0nSL2EIrT9DBmww FDFybda6euTx+JSrDhtR4+bz1ByupYd2mhs9k7x3m2AVaidPL3iPFMlbuMn152+kJdeQ Wz+dHLySSMpncJAhQyTFImdgCZdz/BcIwztGtjBfRVe87eyJ8DD/zPOmeBaAysg7kXYS 6leQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXlLSoU5lqD07Om0y1+SaTqMQA8FZ86U0I0zg4x+GFAzQ8DpeH8 rWX/aEpM9lmUNy4EUjpORKYgkzslGrCUd9zUdxMgciRMk7JMsQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyi6QoQG0UwuE3i85y0NinSmj4FiAPncjnl2yaXOmO4RwGH4nMQJORMn/j+qkKfX6SNK+kYSYZsSlzdsBqRa/k= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9041:: with SMTP id v1mr53721085ioq.303.1578148731618; Sat, 04 Jan 2020 06:38:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200104085443.000007ab@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20200104085443.000007ab@seibercom.net> From: Ultima Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 06:38:40 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Poudriere erased my system To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47qkt52Fgyz4JJQ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 14:38:53 -0000 Hello Jerry, Please excuse this if its a false-positive, but my bot radar is going off with this post. Can you please be more detailed on your issue, with how bots are these days can never be too sure. Very few things you are mentioning seem to link to what you are reporting or lack enough detail to make my bot radar go off, and what you are more detailed about doesn't seem to be about the original problem. You wrote that you edited make.conf, what are the full contents, what changed and where is the location of the file you edited? You wrote that you ran poudriere, what command did you run exactly? You wrote that there was a vulnerability, what was the vulnerability? You've mentioned a bug that seems to have no relation to this whatsoever. Best regards, Richard Gallamore On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 5:55 AM Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 amd64 > > Well, another day, another ordeal. =E2=80=9Cpoudriere=E2=80=99 hosed my s= ystem. > > I started out by making the changes to the make.conf file required for > =E2=80=9Copenssl=E2=80=9D. I double-checked, and that appeared correct. I= then ran > =E2=80=98poudriere=E2=80=99 to update my system. Then the shit hit the fa= n. =E2=80=9CPoudriere=E2=80=9D > proceeded to delete virtually every major application on my machine, > and a few minor ones, AND then refused to install them for me manually. > I lost 1) postfix, 2) dovecot 3) kde5 4) gnupg, etcetera. It also > removed MySQL-80 from the system. Naturally, it refused to reinstall it > again. Apparently, there is a vulnerability and poudriere simply > refused to build it and removes everything that depends on it sans > warning. THAT SUCKS! > > I had to manually rebuild my system, including using: make > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=3Dyes to get MySQL built. > > I am also getting these friendly warnings regarding openssl: > > /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so is linked to > /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.11 from security/openssl but it is not > declared as a dependency > > Error: /usr/local/lib/mysql/plugin/authentication_ldap_sasl_client.so > is linked to /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.3 from security/cyrus-sasl2 but > it is not declared as a dependency Warning: you need > LIB_DEPENDS+=3Dlibsasl2.so:security/cyrus-sasl2 > > There are lots more; that is just a sampling. > > I am not sure why MySQL80 has not been updated. There is a newer > version available. > > Poudriere should not just wipe-out a system without at least asking for > permission first. A friendly warning message like: =E2=80=9CYOUR SYSTEM I= S > ABOUT TO BE ERASED =E2=80=93 DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THIS?=E2=80=9D woul= d be charming. > > Anyway, how can I add the =E2=80=9CDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=3Dyes=E2=80=9D= so poudriere > does not erase my system again? Please, do not tell me to update > FreeBSD to version 12. I can=E2=80=99t. There are at least two BUG report= s > concerning this with no fix in sight. < > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666> > > -- > Jerry >