From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Sun Nov 29 10:11:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E27147CE57 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.evolve.de (mail.evolve.de [213.239.217.29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.evolve.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CkPJm6Bvnz4RGQ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b8ce4e3a; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:10:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; s=20180501; bh=To9Ro9rqk9B88K HmCNE5rAwmu+g=; b=ddTl6PMFXaqSqvoKuv8qCiVv8SDCS945UcEN+gtbCTLTuS XLc0iNJkcWr7+8/iaw+IFmx9JVFESKkcUH1EhOyZaJ3Csrt4hEKXmH0uTs1TEuVL vJUxpYOEhCJRfw6CUy0awF2nxxzocD8brOz/tqstgPMZW8jTUY8RTqBdcHr7rt31 14e8xppNu2l0erYa1cZ/ctbK1rg4OKls+eiVG/4dpMJVRC2julHmLtKebZYruu7z QUuoOzB90TQ0F7lc8w9dYfud+BOpKtQdjtrGcPWCCWhATdBDTxki9VXVeODwxJgE vIe9mMxV4ZYQY+9AM7HCnfy8w7UV1kpK9DvFQb4g== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s=20180501; b=bsIm/CAZ f19ik0bWHaYByjVkbFXh2LPkHs3sy4AMZgPFQe/djzm80cBhQ2Y9oKpXmR9g5i7Z MXPDZAztmjXxD3I1Z9OZrwWEvYxbHqh3vrFeu3t21CACrPZoPVsCeoM/399OokhH vfsCpBwKoTzfF+piJ5b7ci/WfrqOu6x7itaff6fAoXbbAn6GKTmg2Rcyn8EiVqH2 cSOQ6OCKyceMN44DAORmMc9LfD52aBJ3gCY30qnKC5iyFQ4BAcFc4/IWvVXw7Z+V PBfPjRHu62cI7byhm6NrxGH/TRryQ4MRyYFkzN1aWPICBd+zbi5xlMmX9xa4C9kN dXYDZyFi7cf0bA== Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id b2cec041 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-CHACHA20-POLY1305-SHA256:256:NO); Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bhyve with wlan0 From: Michael Gmelin In-Reply-To: <202011281830.0ASIUMAg037287@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:10:50 +0100 Cc: Jason Barbier , freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Message-Id: <87D4E1D7-7CC2-4935-9457-CC16FF2DDD43@grem.de> References: <202011281830.0ASIUMAg037287@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18B92) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CkPJm6Bvnz4RGQ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=grem.de header.s=20180501 header.b=ddTl6PMF; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@grem.de designates 213.239.217.29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@grem.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[grem.de:s=20180501]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:213.239.217.29/32]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grem.de]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[213.239.217.29:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[grem.de:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[213.239.217.29:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:213.239.192.0/18, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-virtualization]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(2.00)[m:jason@corrupted.io, m:freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net, s:grembo@freebsd.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:11:06 -0000 > On 28. Nov 2020, at 19:30, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> As far as I remember it works just fine other than the standard caveats a= bout bridging over wireless interfaces which involve some odd inconsistencie= s that could crop up from time to time especially with like DHCP, but a lot o= f that depends on your network config as a whole.=20 >> The approach I would consider taking for a wireless host is if the guest d= oesn't need direct access to the network just do a NAT network or a routed n= etwork and route through the wlan interface instead of trying to do bridging= with it directly. >=20 > One very problematic area for wireless and bhyve is that each guests have a= different MAC, wireless does NOT like that, as the AP usually associates wi= th one and only one MAC address. >=20 Like Jason wrote, it=E2=80=98s best to use NAT on wireless (especially if yo= u=E2=80=99re moving between networks frequently). Using something like vm-bh= yve, it=E2=80=99s very easy to set up. -m