From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun Sep 27 01:38:10 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8413F3E702A; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BzSw21SPDz4L0Y; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5558E5C00BA; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:38:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=samsco.org; h= content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject :date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; s=fm1; bh=RlvQFwj yrvwqu0bQiS7NJcGQ1KyrrFJL1ywfVSMxUoE=; b=MumjtNcj41/NBmjQtOtB532 TPe6mCZXEimF3MCsd7R1j1ngvX4DJ3hqnBVP6zsXzbdypGF54sBXUAPF0bfAdQS2 UfBJ+26exKGgIs4C6/llKJPAGVSjJfpJTUzvl3yaamaFz+nkuwVxIT3wdjj/1NQ6 +J1Fd2kxlysSe10KTzwxRFeGynDSYwWT9Y0c70S0z4q4HkUufJ4vaqpE86gsJX7M zSKO+Y0zGyUJ2PEyiSv7YQqV7csxBzvnLyltDCBul22Dl42fvMi95cde1+8PQ1zW usmu3oHEK4vk/kJCJBiaAoC/7qKsJY67dWIeVM/R6UFwTYOA1u3byOklnFYc4Rw= = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=RlvQFwjyrvwqu0bQiS7NJcGQ1KyrrFJL1ywfVSMxU oE=; b=NmsMYKbhkV99HPJB70jOk9lqpTlTgyuSF1wpr/z6kl1izXcX8Qd/yArRu lx8vNRJSx0XihuIUBqC4aeW68/ytiSrXFgf06xOVUfP2h0VMM8e2NjvXzxQIT20D G52c+vPtPjT1QgJa1FyPnVyhoklIP9Xr6y7IBMtwS7UnA2c9mKBocpH79vxeqkE3 yVM+HQChpZ4XMGlPEK5ZblMOVDITVhSoerSJgnwdItGWROpPRE2T5IFeHJvx3OxL dOe4euOdWps8KCyQbXBDumttpJYCcJkvCQrgZ3WynbgKDfOIRn659cC5raMATFZY lY8PaPpkUw2oYJqJXpvIP+URxH4Yg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrvdefgdegfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpegtgffhggfufffkfhgjvffosehtqhhmtdhhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpefutghothht ucfnohhnghcuoehstghothhtlhesshgrmhhstghordhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrh hnpeeivdefhfeuvdeuveduleelledufffgkeeijeegtddvueekkeegteetleejudejleen ucffohhmrghinhepfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghdpfhhtphegrdhruhenucfkphepudejge drvdeghedrudelvddrieeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehm rghilhhfrhhomhepshgtohhtthhlsehsrghmshgtohdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost.localdomain (68.sub-174-245-192.myvzw.com [174.245.192.68]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C4470328005D; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Scott Long Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: svn commit: r366186 - in head/usr.sbin: bsdconfig/share/media bsdinstall/scripts Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:38:07 -0600 Message-Id: <58A46C41-07DE-41F4-A3F9-668035347D8B@samsco.org> References: <202009262324.08QNOjbQ056906@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Cc: Warner Losh , Niclas Zeising , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head In-Reply-To: <202009262324.08QNOjbQ056906@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18A373) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BzSw21SPDz4L0Y X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:38:10 -0000 > On Sep 26, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Rodney W. Grimes w= rote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >>=20 >>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I am the wrong person to answer that question. >>>=20 >>> In this case, things have not become lame. For instance, the names=20 >>> ervers for se.freebsd.org work fine, but ftp3.se and ftp6.se records are= =20 >>> removed. Same for ru.freebsd.org and ftp4.ru. >>> I'm merely pointing out that changing ftp.CC.freebsd.org usually=20 >>> requires contacting the person(s) maintaining the CC.freebsd.org zone,=20= >>> which is usually not the project. >>>=20 >>> It's usually people associated with the project in some way, but who mig= ht not be as responsive as cluster admin. These domains have been delegated,= so we have to get the delegated admin to make the changes, which can take a= bit of time to chase down and doesn't lend itself to easy / automated copin= g with this situation. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Just a spitball idea here, but maybe we should consider not embedding the= se lists of mirror URLs into the binaries. It seems pretty straight-forward= that the list evolves over time, and that evolution is not tightly coupled w= ith the updating of the binaries. It sounds like the pkg and freebsd-update= infrastructure use DNS TXT and/or SRV records to point to the metadata need= ed to construct a mirror URL list dynamically. Maybe something similar can b= e done for bsdconfig? If it?s not a crazy idea, is there anyone who would b= e interested in helping me write a proposal over at arch@? >=20 > 100% behind that idea! Especially since it seems the project has lost > (some) control over its DNS space, which IMHO, is still an issue, if > the people whom DNS zones have been deligated to are not responsive > that should also=20 Words of agreement don=E2=80=99t help at the moment, though i appreciate you= r enthusiasm. Would you he able to help write a proposal for the arch@ mail= ing list? Thanks, Scott=