From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Mon Apr 12 06:46:17 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58165EB821 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 06:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Andre.Albsmeier@siemens.com) Received: from thoth.sbs.de (thoth.sbs.de [192.35.17.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thoth.sbs.de", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FJfQc5jwDz3LcH for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 06:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Andre.Albsmeier@siemens.com) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 13C6kEAk028877 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:46:14 +0200 Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [10.10.85.13]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 13C6kDAe031163 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:46:13 +0200 Received: (from user@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.16.1/8.16.1) id 13C6kDTG038846 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:46:13 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No more ports-cur? 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Stacey wrote: > > Andre Albsmeier wrote: > >> No more ports-cur since 2021-03-31 (even on ctm.berklix.org). Did I miss > >> something? > > > > Hi Andre, > > Thanks, Stuff is missing, I'll see what I can fix & report back. > > > > Cheers, > > ports is no longer available via svn. It has moved to git. So until > someone switches CTM from svn to git, there probably won't be any more > updates. Oops, I see. Thanks for the information. > > I think now is a good time to switch from CTM to git. git really has > many of the advantages that CTM has. For example, you can download the > whole repository without actually updating your ports tree. Then it is > present on your computer, so you can update the ports tree even when you > aren't connected to the internet. In fact you can switch between > different commits, and different branches, very easily. This is probably all true but for the price of throwing around 100s of MB for features a typical CTM-user doesn't need :-). For people who just want to have up-to-date trees, this is all overkill. A solution might be net/gitup which is quite lightweight but currently does not work via HTTP proxies (but people are working on it). -Andre From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Wed Apr 14 01:13:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E059E5F4E6F for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 01:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from slim.berklix.org (slim.berklix.org [94.185.90.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "slim.berklix.org", Issuer "slim.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FKky40RZ5z3tD3 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 01:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p4fe6d3cc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.230.211.204]) (authenticated bits=128) by slim.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 13E1Ddrc039574 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Apr 2021 03:13:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 13E1DdwV036380; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 03:13:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 13E1DIRV017354; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 03:13:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <202104140113.13E1DIRV017354@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Andre Albsmeier cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No more ports-cur? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com/jhs/ User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:46:13 +0200." Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 03:13:18 +0200 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FKky40RZ5z3tD3 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jhs@berklix.com has no SPF policy when checking 94.185.90.68) smtp.mailfrom=jhs@berklix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.32 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.230.211.204:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[94.185.90.68:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33824, ipnet:94.185.88.0/22, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jhs]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.57)[-0.568]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[berklix.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.977]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[94.185.90.68:from:127.0.2.255]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[ctm-users] X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 01:13:48 -0000 Andre Albsmeier wrote: > On Sat, 10-Apr-2021 at 14:41:47 -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > On 4/10/21 11:34 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > >> No more ports-cur since 2021-03-31 (even on ctm.berklix.org). Did I miss > > >> something? > > > > > > Hi Andre, > > > Thanks, Stuff is missing, I'll see what I can fix & report back. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > ports is no longer available via svn. It has moved to git. So until > > someone switches CTM from svn to git, there probably won't be any more > > updates. > > Oops, I see. Thanks for the information. There were trees missing which I recreated (Maybe I deleted them by mistake), since then, from script http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/local/ctms/ctms Dec 20 23:12 src-cur.14812.gz Stopped Mar 31 16:36 ports-cur.13927.gz Stopped src-12 to src-4 inclusive Running svn-cur Running So until freebsd.org remove stable from SVN we should get all src stable. I long ago added src-13 to mailman lists & ctm.berklix.org server has empty: /pub/FreeBSD/branches/13.0-stable/src /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-13 It would be easy for me to clone & edit src-12 script for src-13 but I dont know the magic Stephen runs to initialise tres & those *Empty* etc. > > I think now is a good time to switch from CTM to git. git really has > > many of the advantages that CTM has. For example, you can download the > > whole repository without actually updating your ports tree. Then it is > > present on your computer, so you can update the ports tree even when you > > aren't connected to the internet. In fact you can switch between > > different commits, and different branches, very easily. > > This is probably all true but for the price of throwing around 100s of > MB for features a typical CTM-user doesn't need :-). For people who just > want to have up-to-date trees, this is all overkill. Yes, git today took me 20 mins on line to update all my local trees, If I'd been receiving CTM mail, it would have taken a minute, then laptop would be free to disconnect & travel & apply whenever later. + sometimes I dont want latest, but an earlier CTM version. PS I would later like to see a CTM feed of a GIT tree, as for svn-cur now, so one could later do local off line git, as one can do off line svn export. > A solution might be net/gitup which is quite lightweight but currently > does not work via HTTP proxies (but people are working on it). I've got standard git running here, but I'm not experienced with it, & no time to convert server ctm scripts to use git instead of svn, Sorry, Brexit has been a distracting time wasting hell: First Britain stole referendum voting rights from 3.7 million British citizens living abroad inc. 750 K in the EU. Currency speculators & tax evaders etc funded Brexit campaigns. Cambridge Analytica targeted ads etc. the Brexit referendum passed by 1.27 M. British in Europe inc. me, lost life long "Member of an EU state" residents & work permits etc; lots of new support docs & test criteria in local languages to re-apply. eg Some driving licences in France cancelled, some Brits in Spain kicked out, Some rights to work in peril, etc. So not enough of my time on CTM, sorry. Cheers, -- Julian Stacey http://berklix.com/jhs/ http://stolenvotes.uk UK for Brexit stole 750K votes from Brits in EU of 3.7M globaly. Zap BoJo Mogg. 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To: "Julian H. Stacey" , Andre Albsmeier Cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org References: <202104140113.13E1DIRV017354@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Message-ID: <10003e88-0ea3-4140-6ce4-2bd2dd0d18a0@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:01:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202104140113.13E1DIRV017354@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FKpgJ0vNSz4Vv1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 04:01:16 -0000 On 4/13/21 8:13 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I long ago added src-13 to mailman lists > & ctm.berklix.org server has empty: > /pub/FreeBSD/branches/13.0-stable/src > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-13 > It would be easy for me to clone & edit src-12 script for src-13 > but I dont know the magic Stephen runs to initialise tres & those *Empty* etc. If you look in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable you will see that there isn't an svn for 13. 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To: "Julian H. Stacey" , Andre Albsmeier Cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org References: <202104140113.13E1DIRV017354@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:31:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202104140113.13E1DIRV017354@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FKqLK6BzSz4X4v X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 04:31:38 -0000 On 4/13/21 8:13 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Yes, git today took me 20 mins on line to update all my local trees, > If I'd been receiving CTM mail, it would have taken a minute, > then laptop would be free to disconnect & travel & apply whenever later. > + sometimes I dont want latest, but an earlier CTM version. But you can do that with git. The repository is stored in .git, and you may as well keep that up to date, because it contains a record of every change ever made. That contains the whole repository. Then you can switch between the different trees (stable/12, stable/13, current, or whatever) using the git checkout command. And you can use git log with git checkout so that your tree is on whichever update you want. So the "git pull" command doesn't have to update your files to the latest version, only the repository that is stored in .git. And you can do all the git checkouts and logs while you are disconnected from the internet. Only the git pull command requires a connection. The initial download does take a long time. Just like downloading the xEmpty file. But after that, it is very quick. You only need two repositories, the source and the ports. (There is also the docs if you really want that as well) After that you have everything. Yes, it does take a lot of disk space. But disk space is cheap. And the flexibility that you get with having the complete repository on your hard drive is much more than you would get with CTM.