From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Feb 6 21:37:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D6353B1C2 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DY5HJ5KRtz4j3h; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qk1-f179.google.com (mail-qk1-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9D1225BF; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id n15so10680231qkh.8; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 13:37:48 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532qmgFq3HdirBUmBM721eBJswW6hNHj/jSUZ8+ucr2RZCKC//S4 2ZKvmljDrYfsfWwZYW1pQapnreONWqFHBp9T6Aw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJze5yHbIZEiRh77thv2Kvzqb3E15WBy2kgUGtfzuPY9veG3riL0JikWUcY+zifhkJ9wwQw9RusN7tQEgCkWOsk= X-Received: by 2002:a37:591:: with SMTP id 139mr10930221qkf.493.1612647468361; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 13:37:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kyle Evans Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:37:30 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Deprecate/remove fmtree(8)? To: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Cc: Brooks Davis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 21:37:48 -0000 Hi, I was reviewing build options, and noticed that we're still building and installing fmtree by default. Brooks imported nmtree about 8 years ago, made it the default about 7 years ago. Since then, fmtree has seen approximately ~0 work besides build fixes from tangentially related work or fixes for bugs that nmtree inherited from fmtree. Is anyone actually using this? This feels like a pretty clear case of maintenance burden at a glance... Thanks, Kyle Evans