From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 17 01:50:04 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0570B4D5F27 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2021 01:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com (mail-wr1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::436]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DJHt25pldz3kgr for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2021 01:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id 7so5838939wrz.0 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tnOb+xx37EGjMVt5wgVA/xID7PPVr3quQjdsmwZR2B8=; b=K93IsPBNQJ58jYkBOHAmnEAlyvQfgP4xAZc8fOj8kwNtGspYcu7+3g6ZPbuLovqIZI qvKzdzGzotNXlBZv/ivGHVIBi7taNBWydt19/LTvlq1uxwcdlpZticMwo8vFo3rZAf7y f6f+aFeCrUCEDjOd93JrFW9UuD7hRn9sc+AY6G623arcUGuyxwNcfqjOVXp3diiiNkXe FFcXj84BbYpwVG4L+EzgNb4RLlHcCrDCi7GUgLCYL8PFyCq5N/vEC0nShdHf6tiFxOgB GGCtUNLnCQqNo0zYgxSi0d5SEHoVesVsP5snxk1w/RNgBv4g8C7PuXikrLtpXs0pisid IP2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53042L3M+2kd/Z0gQ7dDE+b0obWPqD5aFgkj9nlxAQevaB0j6gEE bqzPGPVHAvtAeEKANtPOrltATe20kL12dA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz2ZeVqpt7f7RYoKRGglQhbGng86hp9cwyiY9+92dXeSKfVrxmrXiWCR89NYPar8zGAOw0h/Q== X-Received: by 2002:adf:9525:: with SMTP id 34mr20297699wrs.389.1610848201101; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 17:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.125.48.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x13sm21322414wrp.80.2021.01.16.17.49.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 16 Jan 2021 17:50:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 01:49:56 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: service -e doesn't really sort does it? the cool tip is slightly off Message-ID: <20210117014956.5c957997@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DJHt25pldz3kgr X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.125.48.115:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 01:50:04 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 23:28:48 +0000 Dennis Clarke wrote: > Saw this pop up : > > rhea$ su - admsys > Password: > If you want to get a sorted list of all services that are started when > FreeBSD boots, > enter "service -e". > ... > > To which I thought "sorted? really?" > .. > Nope. That doesn't look sorted. Unless the sorted means "order in > which they start" perhaps. To me that's the obvious interpretation of 'sorted' because it's the only meaning that's relevant to the context. If it simply meant alphabetical order, it wouldn't have been worth mentioning. In any case, it's clear in service(8).