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See [3] a bit lower in the file at 2341. (cherry picked) - mount -u /, to mount the root as rw so that you can installworld on it. - sh /etc/rc.d/zfs start to mount all other datasets such as /usr/src, comes down to "service zfs start" > If single user mode is recommended, then why is this not in the FreeBSD > Handbook? > ok/cutting- > edge/_index.adoc?id=84d56d3868a699c64c51d7453cedab0f3468ba03#n620> Speaking of my own experience, I have not had any trouble doing source installs on the fly (not in single user mode) Altough, these mostly deal with STABLE/CURRENT branches and I can't comment on why it is recommended (probably just the safer route for .so bumps). > 2) > > line 2274 > > etcupdate -p > > I get: > > > No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. > > > > In the past I simply ran etcupdate after make installworld. Thats fine as long as there are no changes that could impact the installworld process, like an extra user that might be added (ntpd most recent), these are scarce though and you will typically notice pretty quickly as the installworld process will fail in some sort of way. I'm uncertain why it cannot compare to a previous tree, for me it gives no output which means its fine. Do you get normal output from "etcupdate diff"? > > If etcupdate -p fails before make installworld, then should the subsequent > etcupdate be with or without option -B ? -p and -B are not related. -p deals with changes needed for a correct run of installworld (see above). -B uses a freshly built world to speed up the tree comparison; although no flags work fine here as well, so -B is not necessarily required. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Apr 18 11:48:07 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F225E644D for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 11:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x431.google.com (mail-wr1-x431.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::431]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FNSr56zwvz3Kwp for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 11:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x431.google.com with SMTP id k26so14666739wrc.8 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 04:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=1JdFV/YDxuwha7xk7fq/+C8dg91WSd9RdikWVjLIUJc=; b=sAXOVSG/CcgRJUUy8d6H4BubQxTSfzQ80sr6HFzqNXs+5sDkvk3bhFQ2EaoZT8OvER wThkpwvlBzsBezjXSG0YUPd3h1roXImb8zKILKvdac5BiWsaENyhgiSaWb3dsih9/sqs D//0U5HbpqLtdDR9TQvzXUyNn3BuDEbvtrJD/QhBZAdb9pK9rA8hRD57Msf0GIjc/MY9 yRc+peoTc5Xt1vEZfr3w173X4WyJXbOfrhyJjsYj1+9H1YQVn1drBhSKX7m35fNSM/jk v/+/oK+2EFQ1rHhXXrtLu5Yk2++GiAFqa4MFpHbS5nhcDvWeGbunM1WaVxuexac3QIG5 bnAw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=1JdFV/YDxuwha7xk7fq/+C8dg91WSd9RdikWVjLIUJc=; b=WFo6RGmkLfMwFQmBTJ7zV2I6FDfGko1WZ+Cc0q8lkel8uttmwkZCAZ4ash6do1GFor ye6PQRPg418r42ZkD47R28aca37aMMhfjZVkNbhqbsfn2QyQQiC79wNxScnQtXNc4WS+ kPmZcNzochkXaNttUsulRdp1QIbSIx/kljzSbKZLf63LjcP9AaOESQ33tukEwMrfkiqg H7V/B2Hq8rYzr5Exwv76HYWzNL4fBvcBmdbp0O7l5LHaBQ4y93GZVlcxWEXqxAfSoFmC Q2fP8DUvNWyfbmSp4Z2X4f09ZA6Olkf7tNEvbe/uFOY3U4vKgGFKAb5Qx2CKfgBR1mVj ra3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532iZcuLvN8OkxmpFGyBzLr0TiBknL7eXHNuxvuzqeZlGJgCAKXt rkvep1RwYAQ0ixeht7Z21FwGGOJ7OBOh3g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxbgCyR7G2Nwk4A9BHc4oQ9a9VAhaBkuJqYG07oH5UgX9qpYxFLrnxF8GiroWf8L1vso1ktHw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4246:: with SMTP id s6mr8663751wrr.257.1618746483248; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 04:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (88-105-96-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. 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I commented on the disorder but hadn't paid attention to the _content_ of footnotes. My bad. I habitually `mount -uw /`. Never thought to run service in single user mode, I'll know for next time. 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To: Warner Losh Cc: current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FNlx04SgXz4fH9 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.60 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.60)[-0.597]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.85.166.169:from]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[carpeddiem]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.85.166.169:from:127.0.2.255]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.166.169:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.166.169:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:08:21 -0000 On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 16:22, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > As well as "Origin". > > > > (Single) Source of Truth, maybe? > > s/Master, p/P/ also makes sense. IMO instead of lightly rewording the existing comment we could just remove it, it doesn't really add any clarity. Instead we ought to add an introductory sentence or two to the block comment above, explaining what __FreeBSD_version actually is. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Apr 19 07:27:38 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71325E4FFD for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@nours.eu) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FNz164GCcz3JZq for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@nours.eu) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 902E95E55A1; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFA75E55A0 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@nours.eu) Received: from aniel.nours.eu (ns393929.ip-176-31-115.eu [176.31.115.77]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FNz163JZRz3Jfx; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@nours.eu) Received: by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A34723A466; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:27:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:27:23 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Ed Maste Cc: Warner Losh , current Subject: Re: sys/sys/param.h: 'main' instead of 'Master'? Message-ID: <20210419072723.jd5jyys4go3rfwkv@aniel.nours.eu> References: <202104161729.13GHT0g1053366@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FNz163JZRz3Jfx X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 08:27:14 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:27:38 -0000 On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 07:07:44PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 16:22, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > As well as "Origin". > > > > > > (Single) Source of Truth, maybe? > > > > s/Master, p/P/ also makes sense. > > IMO instead of lightly rewording the existing comment we could just > remove it, it doesn't really add any clarity. > > Instead we ought to add an introductory sentence or two to the block > comment above, explaining what __FreeBSD_version actually is. fully agreed here! I had to explained many time what __FreeBSD_version actually was. 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[209.85.221.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f20sm6725323ejw.36.2021.04.19.02.06.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 02:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f49.google.com with SMTP id p6so26435696wrn.9; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 02:06:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:8b:: with SMTP id m11mr6603335wrx.224.1618823199376; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 02:06:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2160831618773765@mail.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <2160831618773765@mail.yandex.ru> From: Alexander Richardson Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:06:28 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: NSS issues after locking fixes To: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdCw0L3QtNGAINCd0LXQtNC+0YbRg9C60L7Qsg==?= Cc: freebsd-current , Brad Davis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FP1CP4Kncz3QkB X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of arichardsonkde@gmail.com designates 209.85.208.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=arichardsonkde@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[arichardson@freebsd.org,arichardsonkde@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.85.208.54:from]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[arichardson@freebsd.org,arichardsonkde@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.85.208.54:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.208.54:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.208.54:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:06:42 -0000 On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 at 20:58, =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0= =B4=D1=80 =D0=9D=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=86=D1=83=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 wrote: > > Hi All, > > After supposed locking fixes done in this commit: 5245bf7b92b74e556527b49= 16a8deba386fe5772 > we have a broken nsdispatch(3) when system has a threaded nss module plug= ged in. > > To illustrate the problem: > > $id bland > id: bland: no such user > t$LD_PRELOAD=3D/usr/lib/libthr.so id bland > uid=3D1001(bland) gid=3D500(domainusers) groups=3D500(domainusers),... > > $cat /etc/nsswitch.conf > group: files ldap > hosts: files mdns dns > netgroup: comapt > networks: files > passwd: files ldap > shells: files > services: files > protocols: files > rpc: files > > It seems that the commit in question was done under asumption that thread= ing model can never be changed during run-time, while previous code was tak= ing care of it by taking a copy of __isthreaded. > > I can not reach out Alex Rechardson who authored this change. Perhaps som= eone else can step in and take care of it? > > Thanks, > Alexander. Hi Alexander, I was away over the weekend so I wasn't able to revert it then. I've committed the revert as https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D738314e445ceac4d3dd6c77c636044141= 623b8dc and I am not convinced that __isthreaded changing is the real problem. This can only happen with fork() (which calls _thr_setthreaded(0)) since if it's currently false, the main thread is executing and we can't be spawning a new thread. I think the problem could be that fork() is called while the lock is held in one thread and therefore the new process ends up with a locked rwlock. I think the solution could be to add a pthread_atfork() callback that unlocks the rwlock. Sorry for the breakage! Alex From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Apr 19 10:00:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1865EB750 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FP2PB2mChz3jN7; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 13JA02bl074528 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:00:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 13JA02bl074528 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 13JA02Or074522; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:00:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:00:02 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Alexander Richardson Cc: =?utf-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdCw0L3QtNGAINCd0LXQtNC+0YbRg9C60L7Qsg==?= , freebsd-current , Brad Davis Subject: Re: NSS issues after locking fixes Message-ID: References: <2160831618773765@mail.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FP2PB2mChz3jN7 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 2001:470:d5e7:1::1 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of kostikbel@gmail.com) smtp.mailfrom=kostikbel@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:470:d5e7:1::1:from]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all:c]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; RBL_SENDERSCORE_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:d5e7:1::1:server fail]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:470:d5e7:1::1:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:00:15 -0000 On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:06:28AM +0100, Alexander Richardson wrote: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 at 20:58, Александр Недоцуков wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > After supposed locking fixes done in this commit: 5245bf7b92b74e556527b4916a8deba386fe5772 > > we have a broken nsdispatch(3) when system has a threaded nss module plugged in. > > > > To illustrate the problem: > > > > $id bland > > id: bland: no such user > > t$LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libthr.so id bland > > uid=1001(bland) gid=500(domainusers) groups=500(domainusers),... > > > > $cat /etc/nsswitch.conf > > group: files ldap > > hosts: files mdns dns > > netgroup: comapt > > networks: files > > passwd: files ldap > > shells: files > > services: files > > protocols: files > > rpc: files > > > > It seems that the commit in question was done under asumption that threading model can never be changed during run-time, while previous code was taking care of it by taking a copy of __isthreaded. > > > > I can not reach out Alex Rechardson who authored this change. Perhaps someone else can step in and take care of it? > > > > Thanks, > > Alexander. > > Hi Alexander, > > I was away over the weekend so I wasn't able to revert it then. I've > committed the revert as > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=738314e445ceac4d3dd6c77c636044141623b8dc > and > > I am not convinced that __isthreaded changing is the real problem. > This can only happen with fork() (which calls _thr_setthreaded(0)) > since if it's currently false, the main thread is executing and we > can't be spawning a new thread. > I think the problem could be that fork() is called while the lock is > held in one thread and therefore the new process ends up with a locked > rwlock. I think the solution could be to add a pthread_atfork() > callback that unlocks the rwlock. Just to be pedantic. Proper way to handle process-private locks and fork is to lock in pthread_atfork prepare(), and unlock both in parent and child. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Apr 19 10:55:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3475ECB4E for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FP3dB5zbXz3m8g for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CD41D5ECB4D; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0FC5ED009 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FP3dB3nD4z3m05 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1lYRZ0-000BSu-2A for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:55:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:55:34 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ZFS: out of temporary buffer space Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FP3dB3nD4z3m05 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12502, ipnet:2001:14f8::/32, country:DE]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:55:42 -0000 Hi! Upgrading a c256294-g2cf84258922f kernel (14.0 from 27th of January) to a more recent version displays this error on reboot: ZFS: out of temporary buffer space Any ideas on how to fix this ? I've tried the fix as described in https://old.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/mtx5cf/freebsd_130_upgrade_zfs_out_of_temporary_buffer/ with the memstick from SNAPSHOTS: FreeBSD-14.0-CURRENT-amd64-20210415-14d0cd7225e-246078-memstick.img and it did not work on 14.0. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ? From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Apr 19 11:11:40 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41A95ED3DC for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FP3zb5pKPz3n0h for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C71EC5ED7CE; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E5D5ED65A for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FP3zb25QMz3n7W for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1lYRoW-000BUG-5U for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:11:36 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:11:36 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS: out of temporary buffer space Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FP3zb25QMz3n7W X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pi@opsec.eu designates 2001:14f8:200::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pi@opsec.eu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[pi]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:14f8:200::1:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[opsec.eu]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:14f8:200::1:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RBL_SENDERSCORE_FAIL(0.00)[2001:14f8:200::1:server fail]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12502, ipnet:2001:14f8::/32, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:11:40 -0000 Hi! > ZFS: out of temporary buffer space > > Any ideas on how to fix this ? Ok, fix was this: Using the same memstick, I wrote a new efi partition as a copy from the efi partition on the memstick. gpart (simplified) showed this: => 40 2000409184 nvd0 GPT (954G) 40 409600 1 efi (200M) 409640 1024 2 freebsd-boot (512K) 410664 984 - free - (492K) 411648 16777216 3 freebsd-swap (8.0G) 17188864 1983219712 4 freebsd-zfs (946G) 2000408576 648 - free - (324K) => 1 7679999 da0 MBR (3.7G) 1 66584 1 efi (33M) 66585 2174992 2 freebsd [active] (1.0G) 2241577 5438423 - free - (2.6G) So: dd if=/dev/da0s1 of=/dev/nvd0p1 and reboot and there we go! -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ? From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Apr 19 13:12:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0A05F1970 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FP6g40ZdQz3v2G for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 13C1A5F1B1C; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1387C5F1D53 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FP6g34qYGz3vNS; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 13JDCKvO066437; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 06:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 13JDCJO8066436; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202104191312.13JDCJO8066436@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: sys/sys/param.h: 'main' instead of 'Master'? In-Reply-To: <20210419072723.jd5jyys4go3rfwkv@aniel.nours.eu> To: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) CC: Ed Maste , Warner Losh , current X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FP6g34qYGz3vNS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:12:32 -0000 > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 07:07:44PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 16:22, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > > As well as "Origin". > > > > > > > > (Single) Source of Truth, maybe? > > > > > > s/Master, p/P/ also makes sense. > > > > IMO instead of lightly rewording the existing comment we could just > > remove it, it doesn't really add any clarity. > > > > Instead we ought to add an introductory sentence or two to the block > > comment above, explaining what __FreeBSD_version actually is. > > fully agreed here! I had to explained many time what __FreeBSD_version actually > was. 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Neither made any difference for my system. There is also a reddit thread about this https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/mqol4o/nfs_issues_since_upgrading= _to_13release/ On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 1:10 AM Rick Macklem wrote: > Just fyi, I just got a "recursed on non-recursed mutex" panic in > socantrcvmore() with the D29690 patch, so you might not > want to test with that one yet. > > rick > > ________________________________________ > From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > on behalf of Olav Gjerde > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:21 PM > To: Allan Jude > Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: NFS issues since upgrading to 13-RELEASE > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. > Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender an= d > know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to > IThelp@uoguelph.ca > > > Well something do happen if I restart NFS Service on FreeBSD , it works f= or > like 10 seconds then it gets unresponsive again. > > This is my output from `nfsstat -d 1` > > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 8.00 1025 8.00 8.02 17170 134.54 2.01 72716 142.54 0.07 51 34 > 8.00 2273 17.76 7.99 31273 244.07 2.01 133267 261.83 0.14 20 82 > 8.03 4889 38.33 7.99 25885 202.07 2.06 119340 240.40 0.13 21 81 > [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Read =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D] [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Write =3D=3D=3D= =3D] [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Total =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D] > KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s ms ql %b > 7.98 8811 68.64 8.00 12997 101.54 2.22 78396 170.18 0.15 1 80 > 7.99 922 7.20 8.00 3798 29.68 2.10 17965 36.87 0.09 0 11 > 8.07 2959 23.31 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 8938 23.31 0.86 32 72 > 7.97 7088 55.18 0.00 0 0.00 2.66 21233 55.18 1.05 16 98 > 7.98 4666 36.38 0.00 0 0.00 2.66 13986 36.38 0.36 9 29 > 8.00 4513 35.24 8.00 7662 59.86 2.20 44188 95.10 0.27 10 49 > 7.98 4799 37.40 8.00 11422 89.23 2.16 60076 126.63 0.19 0 51 > 8.00 4322 33.76 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 12967 33.76 0.89 0 42 > 8.02 4839 37.91 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 14550 37.91 0.54 17 41 > 8.01 4516 35.32 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 13569 35.32 0.57 27 38 > 7.95 4459 34.62 8.00 1195 9.34 2.49 18109 43.96 0.55 0 45 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:07 PM Olav Gjerde wrote: > > > I have the same issue, using Ubuntu 20.10 with Linux 5.8 kernel. The > Linux > > NFS client will get unresponsive and it does not recover in my case, ev= en > > if I restart NFS on FreeBSD. I upgraded from FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE thoug= h. > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:36 PM Allan Jude > wrote: > > > >> On 4/15/2021 9:22 AM, Chris Roose wrote: > >> > I posted this in -questions and someone suggested I post here as wel= l. > >> > > >> > I'm having NFS availability issues between my Proxmox client and > >> FreeBSD server (10G link) since upgrading to 13-RELEASE. And > unfortunately > >> I upgraded my ZFS pool to v2.0.0 before I noticed the issue, so I'm > kind of > >> stuck. > >> > > >> > Periodically, the NFS server (I've tried both v3 and v4.2 clients) > will > >> go unresponsive for several minutes. I never had this problem on 12.2, > and > >> as far as I can tell it's not a disk or network I/O issue. I'll get > several > >> "nfs: server not responding, still trying" messages on the client and = a > few > >> minutes later it usually recovers. It's not clear to me yet what's > causing > >> the block. Restarting nfsd on the server will resolve the issue if it > >> doesn't clear itself. > >> > > >> > Any pointers for troubleshooting this? I've been looking through > >> vmstat, gstat, top, etc. when the problem occurs, but I haven't been > able > >> to pinpoint the issue. I can get pcap, but it would be from the hosts, > >> because I don't have a 10G tap or managed switch. > >> > > >> > >> run `nfsstat -d 1` and try to capture a few lines from before, during, > >> and after the stall, and that may provide some insight. > >> > >> Specifically, does the queue length grow, suggesting it is waiting on > >> the I/O subsystem, or does it just stop getting traffic all together. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Allan Jude > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > >> " > >> > > > > > > -- > > Kind Regards / Med Vennlig Hilsen > > > > Olav Gr=C3=B8n=C3=A5s Gjerde > > > > BackupBay Gjerde > > Madlaforen 35 > > 4042 HAFRSFJORD > > Norway > > Phone: +47 918 000 59 > > > > > -- > Kind Regards / Med Vennlig Hilsen > > Olav Gr=C3=B8n=C3=A5s Gjerde > > BackupBay Gjerde > Madlaforen 35 > 4042 HAFRSFJORD > Norway > Phone: +47 918 000 59 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > --=20 Kind Regards / Med Vennlig Hilsen Olav Gr=C3=B8n=C3=A5s Gjerde BackupBay Gjerde Madlaforen 35 4042 HAFRSFJORD Norway Phone: +47 918 000 59 From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Apr 19 15:03:38 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DD05F511A for ; 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DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[uoguelph.ca:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[40.107.67.60:from]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:03:38 -0000 --_002_YQXPR0101MB0968924C8AEAB808888D75B1DD499YQXPR0101MB0968_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olav Gjerde wrote:=0A= >I have tried D29690 patch and reverting back to r367492 this weekend. Neit= her made any difference for my system.=0A= Just to clarify it, I meant "revert the patch in r367492" and not=0A= "revert to revision r367492". I've attached the patch that=0A= backs out the changes made by the patch in r367492, which=0A= should apply to a fairly recent main/13 kernel.=0A= =0A= This should be done instead of applying D29690, not combined with it.=0A= My testing of D29690 has suggested it is not yet mature, so=0A= I would not recommend choosing that alternative yet.=0A= =0A= If you have tried a kernel with the attached patch applied to it, but not= =0A= D29690 applied to it, then please:=0A= Let us know if you still have Linux clients "hanging" with this kernel.=0A= If still "hanging", try the following to see if they help:=0A= - Use the "minorversion=3D1" mount option on the Linux clients,=0A= to ensure that they are not using NFSv4.2, to see if it is a=0A= NFSv4.2 specific issue.=0A= - Try disabling tso and lro and avoid jumbo frames for drivers=0A= that use jumbo mbufs when handling jumbo frames.=0A= Collect the following info when it happens:=0A= - "netstat -a", to see what the TCP connection is up to.=0A= - "tcpdump -s 0 -w hang.pcap host "=0A= run for several minutes on the server, to see what is going on the=0A= wire. I use wireshark to look at hang.pcap, since it=0A= knows NFS as well as TCP.=0A= You can also do the above with "host " instead=0A= of "host " run on the client.=0A= - "ps axHl" on the server, to see what the nfsd threads=0A= are up to.=0A= If none of the above contains confidential info, please=0A= send it to me, if not the list.=0A= =0A= Good luck with it, rick=0A= ps: Yea, I started this post and then realized I had hit=0A= reply instead of reply all.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= There is also a reddit thread about this https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/c= omments/mqol4o/nfs_issues_since_upgrading_to_13release/=0A= =0A= On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 1:10 AM Rick Macklem > wrote:=0A= Just fyi, I just got a "recursed on non-recursed mutex" panic in=0A= socantrcvmore() with the D29690 patch, so you might not=0A= want to test with that one yet.=0A= =0A= rick=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > on behalf of Olav Gjerde >=0A= Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:21 PM=0A= To: Allan Jude=0A= Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org=0A= Subject: Re: NFS issues since upgrading to 13-RELEASE=0A= =0A= CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do= not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and kn= ow the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp@uo= guelph.ca=0A= =0A= =0A= Well something do happen if I restart NFS Service on FreeBSD , it works for= =0A= like 10 seconds then it gets unresponsive again.=0A= =0A= This is my output from `nfsstat -d 1`=0A= =0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 8.00 1025 8.00 8.02 17170 134.54 2.01 72716 142.54 0.07 51 34=0A= 8.00 2273 17.76 7.99 31273 244.07 2.01 133267 261.83 0.14 20 82= =0A= 8.03 4889 38.33 7.99 25885 202.07 2.06 119340 240.40 0.13 21 81= =0A= [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Read =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D] [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Write =3D=3D=3D=3D= ] [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Total =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D]=0A= KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s ms ql %b=0A= 7.98 8811 68.64 8.00 12997 101.54 2.22 78396 170.18 0.15 1 80=0A= 7.99 922 7.20 8.00 3798 29.68 2.10 17965 36.87 0.09 0 11=0A= 8.07 2959 23.31 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 8938 23.31 0.86 32 72=0A= 7.97 7088 55.18 0.00 0 0.00 2.66 21233 55.18 1.05 16 98=0A= 7.98 4666 36.38 0.00 0 0.00 2.66 13986 36.38 0.36 9 29=0A= 8.00 4513 35.24 8.00 7662 59.86 2.20 44188 95.10 0.27 10 49=0A= 7.98 4799 37.40 8.00 11422 89.23 2.16 60076 126.63 0.19 0 51=0A= 8.00 4322 33.76 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 12967 33.76 0.89 0 42=0A= 8.02 4839 37.91 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 14550 37.91 0.54 17 41=0A= 8.01 4516 35.32 0.00 0 0.00 2.67 13569 35.32 0.57 27 38=0A= 7.95 4459 34.62 8.00 1195 9.34 2.49 18109 43.96 0.55 0 45=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:07 PM Olav Gjerde > wrote:=0A= =0A= > I have the same issue, using Ubuntu 20.10 with Linux 5.8 kernel. The Linu= x=0A= > NFS client will get unresponsive and it does not recover in my case, even= =0A= > if I restart NFS on FreeBSD. I upgraded from FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE though.= =0A= >=0A= > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:36 PM Allan Jude > wrote:=0A= >=0A= >> On 4/15/2021 9:22 AM, Chris Roose wrote:=0A= >> > I posted this in -questions and someone suggested I post here as well.= =0A= >> >=0A= >> > I'm having NFS availability issues between my Proxmox client and=0A= >> FreeBSD server (10G link) since upgrading to 13-RELEASE. And unfortunate= ly=0A= >> I upgraded my ZFS pool to v2.0.0 before I noticed the issue, so I'm kind= of=0A= >> stuck.=0A= >> >=0A= >> > Periodically, the NFS server (I've tried both v3 and v4.2 clients) wil= l=0A= >> go unresponsive for several minutes. I never had this problem on 12.2, a= nd=0A= >> as far as I can tell it's not a disk or network I/O issue. I'll get seve= ral=0A= >> "nfs: server not responding, still trying" messages on the client and a = few=0A= >> minutes later it usually recovers. It's not clear to me yet what's causi= ng=0A= >> the block. Restarting nfsd on the server will resolve the issue if it=0A= >> doesn't clear itself.=0A= >> >=0A= >> > Any pointers for troubleshooting this? I've been looking through=0A= >> vmstat, gstat, top, etc. when the problem occurs, but I haven't been abl= e=0A= >> to pinpoint the issue. I can get pcap, but it would be from the hosts,= =0A= >> because I don't have a 10G tap or managed switch.=0A= >> >=0A= >>=0A= >> run `nfsstat -d 1` and try to capture a few lines from before, during,= =0A= >> and after the stall, and that may provide some insight.=0A= >>=0A= >> Specifically, does the queue length grow, suggesting it is waiting on=0A= >> the I/O subsystem, or does it just stop getting traffic all together.=0A= >>=0A= >>=0A= >> --=0A= >> Allan Jude=0A= >> _______________________________________________=0A= >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing = list=0A= >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current=0A= >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g=0A= >> "=0A= >>=0A= >=0A= >=0A= > --=0A= > Kind Regards / Med Vennlig Hilsen=0A= >=0A= > Olav Gr=F8n=E5s Gjerde=0A= >=0A= > BackupBay Gjerde=0A= > Madlaforen 35=0A= > 4042 HAFRSFJORD=0A= > Norway=0A= > Phone: +47 918 000 59=0A= >=0A= =0A= =0A= --=0A= Kind Regards / Med Vennlig 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:13:21 -0000 > On 19 Apr 2021, at 17:03, Rick Macklem wrote: >=20 > Olav Gjerde wrote: >> I have tried D29690 patch and reverting back to r367492 this weekend. = Neither made any difference for my system. For me, reverting the patch in r367492, solved all the problems. 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To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Ed Maste , current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FPLLG0gFkz4v7K X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 21:58:46 -0000 On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 7:12 AM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 07:07:44PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 16:22, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As well as "Origin". > > > > > > > > > > (Single) Source of Truth, maybe? > > > > > > > > s/Master, p/P/ also makes sense. > > > > > > IMO instead of lightly rewording the existing comment we could just > > > remove it, it doesn't really add any clarity. > > > > > > Instead we ought to add an introductory sentence or two to the block > > > comment above, explaining what __FreeBSD_version actually is. > > > > fully agreed here! I had to explained many time what __FreeBSD_version > actually > > was. A clear comment would be great ;) > > Yes please! Well, we explain the scheme w/o explaining when / why you'd want to bump it. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D29850 has my attempt to do the latter. Please comment there... 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Thanks, _ _ (_)(_) (,,) =3D()=3D ((__)\ _|L\_______/ Save The Lab Rats On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 10:23 PM Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:20 PM Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > > > On 16. Apr 2021, at 19:29, Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > =EF=BB=BF > > >> > > >> n Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:36 AM Rainer Hurling > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> While viewing sys/sys/param.h I noticed that the comment of the > > >>> definition of __FreeBSD_version is probably out of date. > > >>> > > >>> Since the switch to Git, doesn't it have to be 'main' instead of > > 'master'? > > >>> > > >> > > >> This isn't based on a branch name, though I guess if one were going = to > > >> touch it anyways then "Authoritative" would be a better descriptor. > > > > > > As well as "Origin". > > > > (Single) Source of Truth, maybe? > > > > s/Master, p/P/ also makes sense. > > Warner > > > > -m > > > > > > > >> > > >>> #cd /usr/src > > >>> #diff -urN sys/sys/param.h.orig sys/sys/param.h | colordiff > > >>> --- sys/sys/param.h.orig 2021-04-09 12:59:25.363286000 +0200 > > >>> +++ sys/sys/param.h 2021-04-16 18:28:46.621429000 +0200 > > >>> @@ -60,7 +60,7 @@ > > >>> * in the range 5 to 9. > > >>> */ > > >>> #undef __FreeBSD_version > > >>> -#define __FreeBSD_version 1400007 /* Master, propagated to > > newvers */ > > >>> +#define __FreeBSD_version 1400007 /* main, propagated to > newvers > > */ > > >>> > > >>> /* > > >>> * __FreeBSD_kernel__ indicates that this system uses the kernel of > > >>> FreeBSD, > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Rod Grimes > > rgrimes@freebsd.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Apr 20 03:15:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA095E1E3A for ; 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Do the Linux clients remain responsive then? Thank you, Jason. This seems to have cleared the problem up for me. Since disabling TSO and LRO on the server NIC last night, I haven't seen any timeouts. -- Chris From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Apr 21 11:42:24 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A35C5E1759 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (plan-b.pwste.edu.pl [IPv6:2001:678:618::40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plan-b.pwste.edu.pl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FQJZ701G7z3F72 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from fomalhaut.potoki.eu ([IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:5444:c1b4:6689:ba12]) (authenticated bits=0) by plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 13LBgCvk083049 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:42:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=plan-b.pwste.edu.pl; s=plan-b-mailer; t=1619005333; bh=Wy111Pek2ATWIQA+A5A4fFSfUKgot/YZjTGokLbdERU=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=E66lPRwwgpdVgaWIg56LS9rsxJUFG8MIHd6HUnnefkz+oGR/sFrhUP0+kv/BfjUtX vBb75dTCclhcfP/x0skzTHtTthVMyWIDey1C9UNioeuyr+l0a1I42WwvHPPjlmO45n acAe4XUdinfyW7XIJt4qXwjR04Yy2oP8HdPUqTvIja3dkdneWUwieylMGoKICsMQSr nhR+7scNO06co8PxACKNsk/nArVQ6RyOQrhJxUpSxfC+XrStjHybpYZe8EVp85tLS5 ZHb75qVwqX0b1RCYG6coKFheI5uCMrqxjLDlU/cCIL7bxNH98lMQKivA0IzQlEHeR0 N7SIHAdqsgvWQ== X-Authentication-Warning: plan-b.pwste.edu.pl: Host [IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:5444:c1b4:6689:ba12] claimed to be fomalhaut.potoki.eu To: FreeBSD Current From: Marek Zarychta Subject: choosing different sound input and output devices Message-ID: <7e661678-b460-1f47-3f92-c66affa89b50@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:42:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FQJZ701G7z3F72 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=plan-b.pwste.edu.pl header.s=plan-b-mailer header.b=E66lPRww; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=plan-b.pwste.edu.pl; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl has no SPF policy when checking 2001:678:618::40) smtp.mailfrom=zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.21 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RBL_SENDERSCORE_FAIL(0.00)[2001:678:618::40:server fail]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:678:618::40:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:206006, ipnet:2001:678:618::/48, country:PL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl:s=plan-b-mailer]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[pwste.edu.pl:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:678:618::40:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.59)[0.593]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:42:24 -0000 Dear subscribers, I tried to deploy the Chromium browser run on FreeBSD CURRENT to work=20 with Microsoft Teams and it almost works fine except for audio settings. = To use USB microphone I have changed sysctl hw.snd.default_unit and was=20 able to use my microphone, but it broke the playback. Is it possible to=20 use different audio input and output devices ? Any clues, especially=20 with regard to www/chromium will be appreciated. Perhaps the list I am posting this question on was not carefully chosen, = but haven't found any sound/audio specific mailing lists. With kind regards, --=20 Marek Zarychta From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Apr 21 12:12:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8C75E3709 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from mail.turbocat.net (turbocat.net [88.99.82.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FQKDk34lrz3HX6 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from hps2020.home.selasky.org (unknown [178.17.145.105]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.turbocat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33268260A23; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:12:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: choosing different sound input and output devices To: Marek Zarychta , FreeBSD Current References: <7e661678-b460-1f47-3f92-c66affa89b50@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> From: Hans Petter Selasky Message-ID: <182c561a-81f0-0a75-46ff-ecf686eaf7dd@selasky.org> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:11:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7e661678-b460-1f47-3f92-c66affa89b50@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FQKDk34lrz3HX6 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hps@selasky.org designates 88.99.82.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hps@selasky.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.38 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[88.99.82.50:from]; RBL_SENDERSCORE_FAIL(0.00)[88.99.82.50:server fail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mail.turbocat.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[selasky.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.92)[0.924]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[88.99.82.50:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:88.99.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:12:23 -0000 On 4/21/21 1:42 PM, Marek Zarychta wrote: > Dear subscribers, > > I tried to deploy the Chromium browser run on FreeBSD CURRENT to work > with Microsoft Teams and it almost works fine except for audio settings. > To use USB microphone I have changed sysctl hw.snd.default_unit and was > able to use my microphone, but it broke the playback. Is it possible to > use different audio input and output devices ? Any clues, especially > with regard to www/chromium will be appreciated. > > Perhaps the list I am posting this question on was not carefully chosen, > but haven't found any sound/audio specific mailing lists. > > With kind regards, > Hi, Virtual OSS from ports can do this for you. 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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:14:46 -0000 On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:42:11 +0200 Marek Zarychta wrote: > Dear subscribers, > > I tried to deploy the Chromium browser run on FreeBSD CURRENT to work > with Microsoft Teams and it almost works fine except for audio > settings. To use USB microphone I have changed sysctl > hw.snd.default_unit and was able to use my microphone, but it broke > the playback. Is it possible to use different audio input and output > devices ? Any clues, especially with regard to www/chromium will be > appreciated. > > Perhaps the list I am posting this question on was not carefully > chosen, but haven't found any sound/audio specific mailing lists. > Just out of curiosity: Going to chrome://settings/content/microphone won't allow you to select the input device to use? (it seems like having the select box in there is platform specific). Best, Michael -- Michael Gmelin From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Apr 21 14:58:40 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5398D5E847B for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (plan-b.pwste.edu.pl [IPv6:2001:678:618::40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plan-b.pwste.edu.pl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FQNwZ4F1Sz3QvG for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from fomalhaut.potoki.eu ([IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:2d12:e9bd:d8a2:7e5a]) (authenticated bits=0) by plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 13LEwYbH024666 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:58:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=plan-b.pwste.edu.pl; s=plan-b-mailer; t=1619017115; bh=v4egTl9kyxrtt6WQZqGx9UPM2T6c0skAqudjwQGxq3s=; h=To:References:From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To; b=D5roeLbvmiVem5d3ibXam9VqobF/R6xqFMjjlDx82DmT4ARQ60m3R+8Vj8fwG5dHd AWMRuP3AcmRoljB61IU9+rbpYf+uflWKKDA/JB2d8rCWEMWRWyhAaKg4qZsGwN/+lV cZd3B+52B/YSE3LDPqDzGDOuC7JPMqPX8vcSpKYsAKpDEOhNtdRHim5CPlmf60lZ/y a71yYVZCaQVAG6FweDyYdRm/Z4oCNaURp7MN935z54iD0NU0SJxT19mVkCYo7Y7HQc SsBz4m5e3t9oTE2ki1oYh/IMdvtd1DsYEIEwbXXzuw8yUZn4g5omza8JSlrJPI774L sZpS/67/kjIDg== X-Authentication-Warning: plan-b.pwste.edu.pl: Host [IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:2d12:e9bd:d8a2:7e5a] claimed to be fomalhaut.potoki.eu To: Hans Petter Selasky , FreeBSD Current References: <7e661678-b460-1f47-3f92-c66affa89b50@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <182c561a-81f0-0a75-46ff-ecf686eaf7dd@selasky.org> From: Marek Zarychta Subject: Re: choosing different sound input and output devices Message-ID: <34ae17b5-be0f-0006-447d-da31aae40aa2@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:58:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <182c561a-81f0-0a75-46ff-ecf686eaf7dd@selasky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FQNwZ4F1Sz3QvG X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=plan-b.pwste.edu.pl header.s=plan-b-mailer header.b=D5roeLbv; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=plan-b.pwste.edu.pl; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl has no SPF policy when checking 2001:678:618::40) smtp.mailfrom=zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.65 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl:s=plan-b-mailer]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[pwste.edu.pl:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:678:618::40:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.847]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:678:618::40:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:206006, ipnet:2001:678:618::/48, country:PL]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:58:40 -0000 W dniu 21.04.2021 o=C2=A014:11, Hans Petter Selasky pisze: > On 4/21/21 1:42 PM, Marek Zarychta wrote: >> Dear subscribers, >> >> I tried to deploy the Chromium browser run on FreeBSD CURRENT to work = >> with Microsoft Teams and it almost works fine except for audio=20 >> settings. To use USB microphone I have changed sysctl=20 >> hw.snd.default_unit and was able to use my microphone, but it broke=20 >> the playback. Is it possible to use different audio input and output=20 >> devices ? Any clues, especially with regard to www/chromium will be=20 >> appreciated. >> >> Perhaps the list I am posting this question on was not carefully=20 >> chosen, but haven't found any sound/audio specific mailing lists. >> >> With kind regards, >> > > Hi, > > Virtual OSS from ports can do this for you. Now also via the command=20 > line tool virtual_oss_cmd > > See: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Sound Thank you for the clue. I should have put more effort into finding this=20 on FreeBSD Wiki pages. With Virtual OSS=C2=A0 (audio/virtual_oss) installed and configured=20 teleconferencing on Microsoft Teams platform works fine with Chromium=20 native FreeBSD package (www/chromium) installed - as far as I have=20 tested it. --=20 Marek Zarychta From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Apr 21 17:16:16 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442055EC0F1 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FQRzN1RPbz3nnd; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from John-Baldwins-MacBook-Pro.local (ralph.baldwin.cx [66.234.199.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8091829785; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Review D28062 of /usr/src/UPDATING with regard to upgrading FreeBSD and inconsistency with the FreeBSD Handbook To: driesm.michiels@gmail.com, 'Graham Perrin' , 'freebsd-current' References: <705578b0-9d8e-3ad2-77c2-96a20ad3a16e@gmail.com> <000e01d7342f$a5f25b70$f1d71250$@gmail.com> From: John Baldwin Message-ID: <890a62be-95f1-9a67-b76b-da847ae138b7@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:16:14 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000e01d7342f$a5f25b70$f1d71250$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:16:16 -0000 On 4/18/21 1:48 AM, driesm.michiels@gmail.com wrote: >> If etcupdate -p fails before make installworld, then should the subsequent >> etcupdate be with or without option -B ? > > -p and -B are not related. > > -p deals with changes needed for a correct run of installworld (see above). > > -B uses a freshly built world to speed up the tree comparison; although no > flags work fine here as well, so -B is not necessarily required. Technically -B speeds up generating the tree to compare against as it assumes /usr/obj is up to date and uses that instead of rebuilding some files generated by buildworld normally. The actual tree comparison isn't affected. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Apr 21 17:19:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F02E5EC179 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FQS392q2Yz3pKc; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from John-Baldwins-MacBook-Pro.local (ralph.baldwin.cx [66.234.199.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F29B129786; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Review D28062 of /usr/src/UPDATING with regard to upgrading FreeBSD and inconsistency with the FreeBSD Handbook To: Graham Perrin , freebsd-current References: <705578b0-9d8e-3ad2-77c2-96a20ad3a16e@gmail.com> From: John Baldwin Message-ID: <33a2e031-1e21-00f5-51ad-fb0b9763592f@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:19:31 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <705578b0-9d8e-3ad2-77c2-96a20ad3a16e@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:19:33 -0000 On 4/17/21 12:52 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: > 2) > > line 2274 > > etcupdate -p > > I get: > > > No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. Hmm, how did you initially install this machine? Release images should generally include a pre-populated /var/db/etcupdate so that etcupdate works. If you don't have one of those, you will have to perform an initial bootstrap of etcupdate (only once) by running 'etcupdate extract'. If you do this before you update /usr/src then 'etcupdate' will later work fine. If you are doing this after you have already updated /usr/src, you will need to run 'etcupdate diff' after 'etcupdate extract' and fix any unexpected local differences in the generated patch, e.g. by copying files from /var/db/etcupdate/current/etc to /etc. Once you have done this, 'etcupdate' will work fine on the next upgrade. However, I'm curious how you didn't get the etcupdate bootstrap when you initially installed. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 22 11:20:57 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B6F5ED24B for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 11:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FQw2x0kWlz3mTQ for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 11:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 190925ED249; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 11:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CDC5ED3C7 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 11:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.188.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FQw2w0ljPz3mTP for ; 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To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Ronald Klop Subject: 13.1 from main? Message-ID: <0101bee2-ae7e-5ea5-b7be-4f35c3467d9e@klop.ws> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 23:39:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 398f5522cb258ce43cb679602f8cfe8b62a256d1 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.greenhost.nl X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Scan-Signature: 63767ed6f001c63471f2cde26909bd9c X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FR9kM272mz4pt1 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=klop.ws header.s=mail header.b=iOrGOyTr; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=klop.ws; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ronald-lists@klop.ws designates 195.190.28.88 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ronald-lists@klop.ws X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[195.190.28.88:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[klop.ws:s=mail]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.190.28.64/27]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[klop.ws:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[klop.ws,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[195.190.28.88:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47172, ipnet:195.190.28.0/24, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:37:32 -0000 Hi, Just wondering a bit. Why wouldn't the FreeBSD project release 13.1 from the main branch in about six months or some other time period? While making some monthly errata releases in the meantime. - This saves a lot of back porting of commits. - It prevents branches with old code like the current 11-branch with an old openssl version. Release early. - Saves some people time in maintaining the branches. - Saves time in coordinating the releases. Release often. - Reduces the number of needed RC's. Because the main branch doesn't divert a lot of what people are running in production. - Most people start testing/production use after the release. So this should be used as input for the main branch to improve the next release. Currently the feedback of 13.0 is put in 14.0 which is 2 years in the future. Just some thoughts. Which I really like. :-) Regards, Ronald. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 22 22:00:40 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5723E621054 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 22:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-f54.google.com (mail-ot1-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRBF33X43z4qws for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 22:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-f54.google.com with SMTP id e89-20020a9d01e20000b0290294134181aeso17815142ote.5 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:00:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aiN/ZeKlc/XkfdYz0GhYccz/wMdcRV9ZFZYfJwfe2vc=; b=FGFTvSBlzWJVdsGwdWyoxqciTyBeCa774wAMDdxiDrPpHMo5EY07s5VpapcKF6k4t/ Y+kf8Rrb6JVK+Wyctzck4i4AzflruIem5NrDKznTcsdmgcWcz9nkSmEsp8k56V813h81 TBlokvurLxcADl1n/A7J26XjBpZ08TtS06NVHM0O81FwQPJy6582KmW3RxOapp2BtsOX cUj+xxfqWa3Vt+gnze3qxYMyqdfvM1UL2D8h6LCSpqYvbUvbWdjA54ls2z6FfC+wv4f1 6YcF8aB/HXEeFXHKghnCjyM0ftYqtpg0ND4JUjzgncqV1Ce1Iyl9UGOlRq5Ht9TIf9Vp GeQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5306W7YH6qtUkDdClicfGJduwNPC3J2OmRFP1Ju3/0PxnmNeU2Fi 6UBm4rAJYGNA/Stuo9hCrd3LdwUhJoSJvHg49wZXwDBF X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJynOAV49xTCcb66MgI2ooyODuvyayt/3XwU/q8hiCvmS3LDmLPQ4EKmRN/E6h9PXqwQJtjbC02mqPhxCcRmTeE= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6846:: with SMTP id c6mr566655oto.251.1619128838017; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0101bee2-ae7e-5ea5-b7be-4f35c3467d9e@klop.ws> In-Reply-To: <0101bee2-ae7e-5ea5-b7be-4f35c3467d9e@klop.ws> From: Alan Somers Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:00:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 13.1 from main? To: Ronald Klop Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FRBF33X43z4qws X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asomers@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asomers@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[209.85.210.54:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.85.210.54:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[asomers]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.85.210.54:from:127.0.2.255]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.210.54:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 22:00:40 -0000 Because we have a policy of never releasing anything even a little bit backwards-incompatible in a minor release. imp, for example, has been removing obsolete drivers in main. We can remove old drives in a major release, but not in a minor one. That's why we can't release 13.1 from the main branch. -Alan On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 3:37 PM Ronald Klop wrote: > Hi, > > Just wondering a bit. Why wouldn't the FreeBSD project release 13.1 from > the main branch in about six months or some other time period? While making > some monthly errata releases in the meantime. > - This saves a lot of back porting of commits. > - It prevents branches with old code like the current 11-branch with an > old openssl version. Release early. > - Saves some people time in maintaining the branches. > - Saves time in coordinating the releases. Release often. > - Reduces the number of needed RC's. Because the main branch doesn't > divert a lot of what people are running in production. > - Most people start testing/production use after the release. So this > should be used as input for the main branch to improve the next release. > Currently the feedback of 13.0 is put in 14.0 which is 2 years in the > future. > > Just some thoughts. Which I really like. :-) > > Regards, > Ronald. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 07:39:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0AA5E3384 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic308-54.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic308-54.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.68.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRR4n61ywz3m7J for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; 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UPDATING and such places indicate sequences like: (think etcupdate where it lists mergemaster and ignore -F and -Fi) make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE [1] [3] mergemaster -Fp [5] NOTE: What /usr/src/etc/master.passwd here? (for example) make installworld mergemaster -Fi [4] make delete-old [6] etcupdate has the logic for handling -p: if [ -n "$preworld" ]; then # Build a limited tree that only contains files that are # crucial to installworld. for file in $PREWORLD_FILES; do name=$(basename $file) mkdir -p $1/etc >&3 2>&1 || return 1 cp -p $SRCDIR/$file $1/etc/$name || return 1 done Note the "$SRCDIR/$file". But for a boot -s after installing the kernel there is only zroot/ROOT/NAME and no zroot/usr/src zfs mount so /usr/src/ is empty. This leads to needing an additional step: zfs mount zroot/usr/src (The instructions do not deal with making / writable at this stage either.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 11:09:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2262C5EDAB3 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FRWln6XMXz4VwK for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DE6895EDAB2; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE30C5EDB04 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRWlm6vnyz4WBp; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 13NB9nZg088472; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:49 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 13NB9meb088471; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 04:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 04:09:48 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: current@freebsd.org Subject: "etcupdate -p" vs. $OLDTREE? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="U9NiIe5AFv580vNM" Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FRWlm6vnyz4WBp X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of david@catwhisker.org designates 107.204.234.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=david@catwhisker.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.204.234.170]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_HAS_CURRENCY(1.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from:127.0.2.255]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[catwhisker.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.10)[0.095]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:58 -0000 --U9NiIe5AFv580vNM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After the set of updates to etcupdate (main-n246232-0611aec3cf3a .. main-n246235-ba30215ae0ef), I find that "etcupdate -B -p" is working as expected, but after the following "make installworld", a subsequent "etcupdate -B" chugs along for a bit, then stops, whining: No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. and inspection of the $WORKDIR before: freebeast(14.0-C)[1] ls -lT /var/db/s4/etcupdate/ total 260 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 added.files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8556 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 both.files drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 conflicts drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 current -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 212793 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8556 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 new.files drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Apr 22 05:15:33 2021 old -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8556 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 old.files drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Apr 22 04:03:20 2021 preworld -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 22 05:17:54 2021 removed.files and after (the "make installworld"): freebeast(14.0-C)[2] ls -lT /var/db/s4/etcupdate/ total 36 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 added.files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 36 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 both.files drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 conflicts -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 198 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 36 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 new.files drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Apr 22 05:15:33 2021 old -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8556 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 old.files drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 preworld -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 removed.files shows the lack of a "current" subdirectory. After invoking "etcupdate extract", then "etcupdate -B": freebeast(14.0-C)[3] ls -lT /var/db/s4/etcupdate/ total 260 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 23 03:58:59 2021 added.files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8556 Apr 23 03:58:59 2021 both.files drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 23 03:58:59 2021 conflicts drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Apr 23 03:58:59 2021 current -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 212793 Apr 23 03:59:00 2021 log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8556 Apr 23 03:58:59 2021 new.files drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Apr 23 03:57:58 2021 old -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8556 Apr 23 03:58:59 2021 old.files drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 Apr 23 03:53:41 2021 preworld -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 23 03:58:59 2021 removed.files Am I missing something? Thanks! Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org The same folks who champion the "rights" of corporations to influence elections by money (as an exercise of free speech) are now also decrying corporations' speaking out against voter suppression laws...? 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See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --U9NiIe5AFv580vNM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE4owz2QxMJyaxAefyQLJg+bY2PckFAmCCqvxfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEUy OEMzM0Q5MEM0QzI3MjZCMTAxRTdGMjQwQjI2MEY5QjYzNjNEQzkACgkQQLJg+bY2 PcmDPAf+KoAFSO65rW266Bjw3sSV568fUhtFi3EFHtZGdLegTk+q9q2lrSHw/x11 558cVD33GaCtgik+5jUT8Bts7tC8AxKPWwXaYOlfuOAUnLCWAGCddJGEQppYcx+J JOvDumhXt1g+8Oa+W8J9bE9O5CbrUxJaSfg2iXzKQl2fqyrqbSp6wP4OTObQh9Bx mzGCPNXqMk/d7eFr8vM3LSeWMd4hl5oaLy9gXgJGHTvWntSFj4+96DzQRdyPsOxx SKG8aSuHJ2Mh56S7/gb9gh/f1A4jFUhyME2FqoZyBAzsnjCVYqFVVgu9895EaNrD oXmLekFVtNIMUTIk6njTsWgeziRiIg== =z3ZY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --U9NiIe5AFv580vNM-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 14:00:10 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DBA5F4413 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FRbXB3Kxvz4hfR for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 706F15F419E; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7038C5F414B for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRbXB2flhz4hhH for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-lf1-f50.google.com (mail-lf1-f50.google.com [209.85.167.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: olivier/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4863EE3CE for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-lf1-f50.google.com with SMTP id q22so15248015lfu.8 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531zxhh/YhBod6vNDyfkbgPEFnQ0M+eYIR4qj6r5uea3E9waa1Od xRG0DLSh5u2asBUNNpf+Og1KBzf7iRN/q8I/kx0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzZtKbCsHa0AcaMdVycHfOKAKYrQKdAAZfvPYM+JJUfaz++kG98Mw2bbF1tYlzfqaPbC6hkNTm/bRQX4pkcUyk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:304c:: with SMTP id b12mr2841596lfb.247.1619186409024; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:00:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Olivier_Cochard=2DLabb=C3=A9?= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:59:57 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: "etcupdate -p" vs. $OLDTREE? To: David Wolfskill , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:00:10 -0000 On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:10 PM David Wolfskill wrote: > After the set of updates to etcupdate (main-n246232-0611aec3cf3a .. > main-n246235-ba30215ae0ef), I find that "etcupdate -B -p" is working as > expected, but after the following "make installworld", a subsequent > "etcupdate -B" chugs along for a bit, then stops, whining: > > No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. > > > Same problem here while using /usr/src/tools/build/beinstall.sh: (...) Skipping blacklisted certificate /usr/share/certs/trusted/Verisign_Class_1_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_-_G3.pem (/etc/ssl[0/1831]sted/ee1365c0.0) Skipping blacklisted certificate /usr/share/certs/trusted/Verisign_Class_2_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_-_G3.pem (/etc/ssl/blacklisted/dc45b0bd.0) Scanning /usr/local/share/certs for certificates... + [ -n etcupdate ] + update_etcupdate + /usr/src/usr.sbin/etcupdate/etcupdate.sh -s /usr/src -D /tmp/beinstall.MZ4oy8/mnt -F No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. + return 1 + [ 1 -ne 0 ] + errx 'etcupdate (post-world) failed!' + cleanup (...) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 15:31:16 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2195F6618 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-f44.google.com (mail-ot1-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRdYF2khNz4mWk for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-f44.google.com with SMTP id i26-20020a9d625a0000b02902a2119f7613so8810028otk.10 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oZTXJ90wQMHZyOEiZ/mkLFYPG8teNIINV/wyqGODWIk=; b=h+C8l5jtIcX/HO+WiDYI0ONWJufXvNT/JRDT9+LID2j6PL4egtwxy8yaDgZTPTEJH0 Nk08KTVB+YxQXm1lzx7fnoLIbxIKMYb8psK4e6lt2h2oao6n5AIBBrChocTBehlRmUcR mJ1XB9KZhmkCZFmv+Q/cgMGkOPesxJjc3d+HwxIvymDAXKd/JXsRIrFNKU+ytoJ1NhM4 aU5WHFRwbrB7CwjQFoLNYQhfmFDfscWj3WnTBEP+4HmgOhHCUiZ6YdUSwt1ysEuMdh9U PbpLVZTp/POJvNe1aDIl+ivVElDgwRzBQi8n0nfPqnIXjUVsrfznssonsU8dphNR/uY0 N2xQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530s68dwpcXxkhD/K9OMaTR7ghyVgcJhBdFPHZJi8ySX2mxfdack /6cGUJcETIrSzacLNA39sxbFdc86V+6UAhql7zHB+vYn X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJynt0hrcg6rSVhxaumEDXgeNzxQHKreLnb7BILgCAj9gMUt8n/9w+SFGkKhUMboPW7hpg/+FVb1SKVJYAKsTtc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:ce:: with SMTP id x14mr3732490oto.291.1619191871822; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:31:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alan Somers Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:31:01 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: How to delete comment spam from bugzilla? 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How can we delete spammy comments ? From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 16:20:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446775F822E for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from maybe.home.utahime.org (gate.home.utahime.org [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRffM0t58z4q3B for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by maybe.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9C8928E94 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 01:20:31 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=utahime.org; s=maybe2019112701; t=1619194831; bh=fbr8B5LD6IBf6IsdAF3oaGWVmpSTkXbFCj/+id/Wngc=; h=Date:To:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:References; b=C1gjbBm0b43SqemAZuqqVdmp7Vh62NIsYPnKIQmnn+5CdWr3xikZ+JkzJsoUezNSb efw7ijLPMnp7MYRNFxpfEj+PhEmpacMnhWdTr/XjESBLnsOx7jf4COgIk8x6wSFHYL v1HtJn370QaU3witX/md2JdffskU0OmqWb2RADnzEcZ3Ruv6E2zpitLQMlHCV78Up0 N0dBB1Cc3VwQk+vdUqKlKagpuHowI0qAKPyUwN8UPkVAgTT+tPfLmWyXfQfS3Kt0HV n7cd8wbjUzpeoqetrE+b0C0+1xhaPH+RavJIaW/xT3y5j6YjreZZDtkbkrFH6GsdK2 8og1vZ4bqXJnA== Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B7D530FA2; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 01:20:31 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 01:19:41 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20210424.011941.1863435639177776857.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to delete comment spam from bugzilla? 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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:31:01 -0600 > Somebody, or more likely some bot, is posting comment spam in our > bugzilla. How can we delete spammy comments ? I faced same situation before and was told to send mail to bugmeister@freebsd.org. --- Yasuhiro Kimura From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 16:46:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E34E5F8D39 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FRgD9441yz4r8K for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8B8505F900E; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4DA5F8FAE for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRgD93YXvz4r6C; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from John-Baldwins-MacBook-Pro.local (ralph.baldwin.cx [66.234.199.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09B8EFF82; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: "etcupdate -p" vs. $OLDTREE? To: =?UTF-8?Q?Olivier_Cochard-Labb=c3=a9?= , David Wolfskill , FreeBSD Current References: From: John Baldwin Message-ID: <857f55df-b4d3-865c-f2f1-f03bd490dad6@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:46:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:46:33 -0000 On 4/23/21 6:59 AM, Olivier Cochard-Labbé wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:10 PM David Wolfskill > wrote: > >> After the set of updates to etcupdate (main-n246232-0611aec3cf3a .. >> main-n246235-ba30215ae0ef), I find that "etcupdate -B -p" is working as >> expected, but after the following "make installworld", a subsequent >> "etcupdate -B" chugs along for a bit, then stops, whining: >> >> No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. >> >> >> > Same problem here while using /usr/src/tools/build/beinstall.sh: > (...) > Skipping blacklisted certificate > /usr/share/certs/trusted/Verisign_Class_1_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_-_G3.pem > (/etc/ssl[0/1831]sted/ee1365c0.0) > Skipping blacklisted certificate > /usr/share/certs/trusted/Verisign_Class_2_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_-_G3.pem > (/etc/ssl/blacklisted/dc45b0bd.0) > Scanning /usr/local/share/certs for certificates... > + [ -n etcupdate ] > + update_etcupdate > + /usr/src/usr.sbin/etcupdate/etcupdate.sh -s /usr/src -D > /tmp/beinstall.MZ4oy8/mnt -F > No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. > + return 1 > + [ 1 -ne 0 ] > + errx 'etcupdate (post-world) failed!' > + cleanup > (...) Sorry, this should be fixed. beinstall.sh still has a bug in that it needs this change: diff --git a/tools/build/beinstall.sh b/tools/build/beinstall.sh index 46c65d87e61a..fab21edc0fd5 100755 --- a/tools/build/beinstall.sh +++ b/tools/build/beinstall.sh @@ -133,7 +133,7 @@ update_mergemaster() { update_etcupdate_pre() { ${ETCUPDATE_CMD} -p -s ${srcdir} -D ${BE_MNTPT} ${ETCUPDATE_FLAGS} || return $? - ${ETCUPDATE_CMD} resolve -D ${BE_MNTPT} || return $? + ${ETCUPDATE_CMD} resolve -p -D ${BE_MNTPT} || return $? } update_etcupdate() { -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 17:35:09 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5038B5FA10E for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@mouf.net) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRhJD243jz4tC5 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@mouf.net) Received: from lrrr.mouf.net (2603-6080-7702-bf01-3d2f-e804-04f5-a29c.res6.spectrum.com [IPv6:2603:6080:7702:bf01:3d2f:e804:4f5:a29c]) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id 13NHYlkj034942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:34:54 GMT (envelope-from steve@mouf.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mouf.net; s=mail; t=1619199298; bh=7zOBM+vTmu3zf+ZKCFAKd9l07DSsyiILYPCGJo/hYtE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=vpWA/flH7D9eDmzXIqrJtAAOX+ivJLKlnHjP65YnWNHdUCgJQTbffU7gKeIBrWak+ umtpETxIRiDBM8kE1+iV5pM8CbAVGcZ5zxK7vrwru6Ekpnb3VRBSbtQxnwDVceYcfl 3b79mHaaMDsNZJ53u8OaV/GFEFv5HLyYJINUCFIc= Subject: Re: 13.1 from main? 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I believe we have made backwards incompatible changes in minor branches in the fairly recent past, at least compiler changes and VM changes that affected video drivers. But I'm not sure, please correct me if I'm wrong. 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To: Steve Wills Cc: FreeBSD Current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FRj2K2Jp5z4vsP X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=LOf4tpEy; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2a) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2a:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2a:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2a:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:08:10 -0000 On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 11:35 AM Steve Wills wrote: > Hi, > > On 4/22/21 6:00 PM, Alan Somers wrote: > > Because we have a policy of never releasing anything even a little bit > > backwards-incompatible in a minor release. > > I believe we have made backwards incompatible changes in minor branches > in the fairly recent past, at least compiler changes and VM changes that > affected video drivers. But I'm not sure, please correct me if I'm wrong. > Userland guarantees are easier to achieve than private kernel interfaces. Compilers have been binary compatible always, though newer versions were pickier at times which caused some minor grief (though that had nothing to do with the video driver stuff). By and large, things are broadly compatible. in the minor releases. And that's a good thing since we need packages for fewer release trains. But it also means things can take longer to get into a release. It's a balancing act, really, that we set the balance for decades ago and we may benefit from a close re-examination to see if a different model would let us use resources better and/or deliver features more quickly. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 23 19:44:55 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399455FDB09 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FRl9z13qVz3HMw for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 22A5A5FDB08; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213205FDCA0 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FRl9z0Cn4z3H6r; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tensor.andric.com (tensor.andric.com [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "tensor.andric.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: dim) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D57E121797; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:0:b1cc:ea14:6826:89a] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:0:b1cc:ea14:6826:89a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCFAA500A6; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 21:44:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Dimitry Andric Message-Id: <554F9FF8-B01C-4743-A19A-C91D2506F6A4@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C3C0879E-019B-4BA3-91A4-0EC483061624"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: Re: base compiler & build options Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 21:44:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20730408.24805.1619090453408@mail.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Current To: Filippo Moretti References: <20730408.24805.1619090453408.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <20730408.24805.1619090453408@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:44:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C3C0879E-019B-4BA3-91A4-0EC483061624 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 22 Apr 2021, at 13:20, Filippo Moretti via freebsd-current = wrote: >=20 > I run FreeBSD STING 14.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #24 = main-n246214-78ffcb86d98: Tue Apr 20 17:51:50 CEST 2021 = root@STING:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/STING amd64 >=20 > will llvm12 be merged on main or should I get it manually? I'm working on it, but it might take a while. You could install the llvm12 package (or build the port if you have cycles to spare), and try to see what happens when you build world. Your mileage may vary... > In order to only build amd64 is it correct = toWITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_ALLWITH_LLVM_TARGET_X86sincerelyFilippo =46rom src.conf(5): WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_ALL Only build the required LLVM target support. This option = is preferred to specific target support options. So you only need that option. 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I have historically used https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/ to do build-less approximate bisecting (and other things). Such use is very messed up since the git-related URL conventions chosen were put in place. The below illustrates an example of the mess for how things are currently presented. https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/?C=3DM&O=3DD lists ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6dab686c45d39dc5a0/ as having date/time 2021-Apr-10 18:43 . But: = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6= dab686c45d39dc5a0/?C=3DM&O=3DD lists: powerpc/ and arm/ as having date/times 2021-Apr-10 18:54 and 2021-Apr-10 = 18:50 yet lists... i386/ and arm64/ as having date/times 2021-Feb-19 19:00 and 2021-Feb-19 = 18:50 . But it gets worse: = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6= dab686c45d39dc5a0/powerpc/?C=3DM&O=3DD shows an empty directory. Same for: = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6= dab686c45d39dc5a0/arm/?C=3DM&O=3DD By contrast, = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6= dab686c45d39dc5a0/i386/?C=3DM&O=3DD shows i386/ with date/time 2021-Apr-10 18:43 but = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6= dab686c45d39dc5a0/i386/i386/?C=3DM&O=3DD shows all the file dates as 2021-Feb-19 19:00 . Going back to arm64/ I find a similar 2021-Feb-19 dating, although 21021-Feb does show up in more places: = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6= dab686c45d39dc5a0/arm64/?C=3DM&O=3DD shows aarch64/ with date/time 2021-Feb-19 18:50 and = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6= dab686c45d39dc5a0/arm64/aarch64/?C=3DM&O=3DD shows the files also having the date/time 2021-Feb-19 18:50 . In my view the choice to only use the hash-id for the commit in the url is a usability mistake and the url prefix should be of a form more like (for this example context): https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/n??????-HASHID/ where the ?????? is from: git rev-list --first-parent --count (as used elsewhere by FreeBSD). (The HASHID might be just the 12 character prefix instead of the whole hash-id as well.) Such a convention would be more independent of dates possibly being touched on the file server and would make time ordered finding of things (such as for build-less approximate bisecting) far more reasonable. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Apr 24 06:08:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646E05F26B4 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 06:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shoesoft@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FS11j2FpGz4YJV for ; 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from:127.0.2.255]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 06:08:42 -0000 I was testing geli_groups with a setup similar to the example here: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12644 The entries in rc.conf only work if the devices are not also listed in /et= c/ fstab. The rc-script processes fstab entries before trying to attach the geli_groups. As workaround, I've edited /etc/rc.d/geli and exchanged the loops "for group in ${geli_groups}; do" and "for provider in ${devices}; do". Now it works as expected for me. The commit message says: This is helpful when the providers being attached are not used for boo= t, and therefore the existing code to first try the cached password when tasting the providers during boot does not apply. I'm not sure how the "cached password" mechanism works. My rc-change might break it. Disclaimer: Tested on 13.0-RELEASE, but the rc-script ist the same in in current. 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[88.105.96.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g1sm12232688wrd.69.2021.04.24.04.42.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Apr 2021 04:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?etcupdate_-p=3a_No_previous_tree_to_compare_against=2c_a_?= =?UTF-8?Q?sane_comparison_is_not_possible=2e_=28was=3a_Review_D28062_?= =?UTF-8?B?4oCmKQ==?= To: John Baldwin References: <705578b0-9d8e-3ad2-77c2-96a20ad3a16e@gmail.com> <33a2e031-1e21-00f5-51ad-fb0b9763592f@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-current From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:42:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33a2e031-1e21-00f5-51ad-fb0b9763592f@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FS8QY4Cqrz4qw8 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=akin4kZp; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 11:42:15 -0000 On 21/04/2021 18:19, John Baldwin wrote: > On 4/17/21 12:52 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: >> 2) >> >> line 2274 >> >> etcupdate -p >> >> I get: >> >>   > No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not >> possible. > > Hmm, how did you initially install this machine?  Release images should > generally include a pre-populated /var/db/etcupdate so that etcupdate > works.  If you don't have one of those, you will have to perform an > initial bootstrap of etcupdate (only once) by running 'etcupdate > extract'. > If you do this before you update /usr/src then 'etcupdate' will later > work fine.  If you are doing this after you have already updated > /usr/src, you will need to run 'etcupdate diff' after 'etcupdate extract' > and fix any unexpected local differences in the generated patch, e.g. > by copying files from /var/db/etcupdate/current/etc to /etc.  Once > you have done this, 'etcupdate' will work fine on the next upgrade. > > However, I'm curious how you didn't get the etcupdate bootstrap when > you initially installed. Sorry for not replying sooner. It's not an answer to your question, but might the thread at be relevant? From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Apr 24 14:20:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA77622081 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FSCwc025kz3DxP for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.not-for.work (onlyone.not-for.work [148.251.9.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: lev/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2E9629A75 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.134.16] (unknown [94.19.224.8]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.not-for.work (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C28321A2 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:19:58 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-14.0-CURRENT-amd64-20210408-15dc713ceb5-245885-memstick.img fails to boot on Haswell-based laptop. To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <88fac685-ee3d-f9d6-d81d-1d8b5f3c7762@FreeBSD.org> <37dab5a0-3253-ee2f-c33f-6095016be134@FreeBSD.org> From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:19:57 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37dab5a0-3253-ee2f-c33f-6095016be134@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:20:00 -0000 On 15.04.2021 22:19, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >>> calltrap() >>> --- trap 0x9 >>> run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks() >>> boot_run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks() >>> mi_startup() >>> >>>    It is 100% reproducible, and I cannot issue commands to kernel debugger, keyboard is dead. >>> >>>    Enabling verbose boot helps, with verbose boot it boots to installer. >>> >>>    Looks like some race condition. >>> >>>    Is it known problem? >> >> try to boot verbose > > It is funny, but boot-verbose helps on battery and doesn't help with AC. I think, it is because with AC plugged in CPU is set to "performance" mode and delay from printing verbose information is not enough! Same panic with much more recent kernel, again, only if AC power is connected... -- // Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Apr 24 19:23:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC8D6274BC for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 19:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic305-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic305-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.64.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FSLfD6CdTz3hyf for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 19:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1619292178; bh=y2iZAjam3idnG9aVpTpuHhiLeZ1H7JmQm2T9TEf3K3X=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=uMcfdPzGpOrq6GeiSmcLkj3QWEi4qYpH5GQsmjkJJxTSGsIHVvo5MSf9984xK1MHdOW2B5ebk/QirxGd6c6k0HC9DoDJqCqtXFd9qD1mp9RL4KabAWHtzd0LQlCa+bT/YjaNPyMt8ScUQdM1pWRWxCxpEgMIWDCYaAYhhmkZYlMnhXK8KFJeKCmGQjwytZ2V2hyQa+Tfksy/VqyRyAi9vLQxKfilpVpLDo0PIyEa82lyQf8TvV+gxO0z0SwiKMNEbc86NMhSwKK7A2G7YmwSh912ZD1Ulh/V56w5sVx7mODl/AGf0nbqaPRht2ZRRs6lVT0Ith6kkk39FlZVl3wgiw== X-YMail-OSG: nJZPjUUVM1mN1OJ7x4qoHL_iwwOi0ZZr6eoqNsuuuNyed5uOj_XpalBEp9.8lWY tJvHBDq3ZFsrWvy1dUErS1qH9bS4QVSySsQ2Z58GgZJyoRkrm_K4PhrO4E10m3Zn_lhpBu9Iyn64 .tcb8vYk1k_cI.jULiiI_H0t8m27FMy_3emdkU.l.23S3SXVLNpbY3IbqiWfIIL.oEd.vuGrZdTz jJL49AY_WlqsGSRVw3kNL2OsZrGNVIQ.d0XtPaZD8VDWCG6LSt4pptL_zTvgQB4xM2hWIzA._yE2 onD10Sx2OrkIOWZ5DDDXM6tXNCMAU7vDi98ZFlFXYDBkDHGuiT_IM0Ll6NEW8AQoesOlmDDqwse9 ZpxXA2gYAb.7eUdDmSajuCgEr8dRZrwURGz9EG_6W_gVGyM1_X4SCbgp0QPBZCZp1lxEq4nR4M8u JWUH8aGzUB0LDqwjCDLqdBEOeSUrFYWCfQLHsLqP3qfYoWBuxRXYOAC0Vhy7DMSm06P0iFf3FvrC vCvpthHKuzayFNyMZy_bvKmbPON411tgQwBiRONSbWiqatiMwsHTgVXmCP0v4fd4bog2bZ5V7qPM BWyaR_NlCzHbhpCEfbBQuh3xBsN_lXtHt6kU8Thw7F8nMCZh4I6e_nOpNCfaClfYbvWiw6COKtdu f3Rwx1qrmzbjjSQ8sHdxhfKfPAjeK0F6yQvSilA1QlKy736VmeDeHi4VU1qKQbzXdbnjxQ19zChC YlqSBCmKtC.DYRlFIC19.H83NI.KPtrToVBXEmVuVrQiVfkLF.xsjXvO_mxbPcD7CPiq4UGhg3te i4gQaMVUGNWDw4OhK01CuAA5bmXOQO5fDIHg7JRLB5JCaLSrQhvUT7sR3VtIawvZYGAAVcJrO.RV eKPGEXFXwaNW0HzZIFnZNwMPHBhLM62hnCkEv7Ksqr.ezpl0iVuaOEtd.I0.K1cil0TnMeZ8M3Gx Kvj8g0vVJzeFxegF2G18hK6sXKjDRMYghvSNcDUfwJUm4yV3kOgXdRn.Va2ftUuVIBZDLK7GBVr. rsuqzSSeuFq3jMF7duNW8U.M8JDbeJ7mQTGDEjJUq8JeoBnJErOW7tZHSfq44zhSRxFUmoxs2pfO HKL.PiMyEoVaPWpCxMWB8hgYzotlwbYf.8f_wohxbBXSuOr.vC2ALd.qy0lzvj6ivgPmUJtsz0jB hsJh_6COboOphZOihMShAIXOVaTqqREuO0MPUr1Zoaa9Rqd18lLXJBFPrJoU5DJ2SdL2N0dzx9Hf vIJ0TaOCGv65qdwKgFlwA5TSefMeP62ah7vfsGZLPycIl9XXKlSqBfUcTq_5r4C28VYFhzP9uwvd 69tlssdebrK4W01CNYZWbfMgBWPKbIDiNKfKp0NCTktzsS7gFMRsb0T11isSqVTab_EHBGTA0w8Z jPoZ1SIqd7IKBh0eagRBqETQsvWLLC6oYEVuyf64lKG9mJZGvAxA_3sypvgApEuGLxQsPpx.hJ4Q KxO2Bx8h_umLcbomsotiGYpD8X9IvpCEByY.ZHlS9Nu3PbYhQbVCir0m8BtU4GMX5uSL_pBVaymW 46lqqWEvB0_lCv9_GWPKlOmWuzjbwtNnf6srm.HW9ejNRWKKzOc_KnRN.Cbqyv1QeoWYKoz.kjZ3 gG4WwWWzPoQj2ERyzR9v8NHQy_vvKNuPACI3516JyEpM92PZeyWJBqDp925jpA4yhTPkXRj79JnK 8J_cxYY9MGFDkWhdTZqM0EqBUw5msL0lqy7mCW2GPjkmFCICdnMayuIlKMXk0J8c3SXMscam31VB fp8TOMyfyGxY38KkXNEQ2lCW8W8J7.o8gjo558jFQMVFLV5yn0mZS_BG8WgkNz0o8cYytubx1nT4 2WAye3GAHrKDcav5xji0xNxEPC0ILOoj1zsxYbca2U3M3OUTpMr5WrjDyC3LCLociOQjWGcXHitg Zmcebz0uQEZ1CireA2P2NkANRzM6QIfLQ.2ti4qDLvE9GYdkQYCORrOfAQ0wpU7bCmZRbVE.Ht5q g7hKTt5XIgUTK_XSsNNNghd162mQPlAhZiTZ6KxS7MmTeUyKg2bgeDCSu7_Ku4v1siwGy683oZDr M5imh.Y28ExtMfaFtI.sw1dD3oTUEEPTRXEaRMn05PyjA_FmCguKjnVth7DpW9sg.NqRZiUSk6S. b8GEWzr37TyNzrtZ6ZTa0bGD5PWDHM1CkZltPjU_M9GCkyg57N2xRaTPxw.uCUZ3rD7BJ9wLIEq3 Lx_XCyhMNtHQCNvZsmDh53yGI0jwzFkLD5TQyDs48Rvdn4Lx3cfJsP1OsSM0C2BXg.8vuqnDRqqJ W4yEzZppYgfUxZ8QpnGhlb9ADZbi8GUDMUEng85oixtpHg.civXgVQS0DgJIFcaTkbH8ViJqRRYs MSHFFsyU8O8ox68cG01YD87wySe61zlrQhyW1I2lVGzmw3P33pqYy_ipfbJ6iGlkzhGs1bS04zYo IFKRRK0ccTiBl8NA9mEHkmG02jCEa.dLgXjTkvUmCXT_YoH_KXp2ZZbayAzMLqOivzvMCpgwfXbn TiaTDtsBU98DuUnGwoHD.YeAas6NhoE8_w0j7bG2CtBnF.bSuddvmCF4qR_gAbp31LtxQBxTH35R BOj_wRwMayVtL7mORmz0cKY2nsg-- X-Sonic-MF: Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic305.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; 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Illegal option -? usage: etcupdate [-npBF] [-d workdir] [-r | -s source | -t tarball] [-A patterns] [-D destdir] [-I patterns] [-L logfile] [-M options] etcupdate build [-B] [-d workdir] [-s source] [-L logfile] [-M = options] etcupdate diff [-d workdir] [-D destdir] [-I patterns] [-L = logfile] etcupdate extract [-B] [-d workdir] [-s source | -t tarball] [-L = logfile] [-M options] etcupdate resolve [-p] [-d workdir] [-D destdir] [-L logfile] etcupdate status [-d workdir] [-D destdir] The "etcupdate extract" material does not show -D destdir as valid. # man etcupdate . . . SYNOPSIS etcupdate [-npBF] [-d workdir] [-r | -s source | -t tarball] [-A patterns] [-D destdir] [-I patterns] [-L logfile] [-M options] etcupdate build [-B] [-d workdir] [-s source] [-L logfile] [-M = options] tarball etcupdate diff [-d workdir] [-D destdir] [-I patterns] [-L logfile] etcupdate extract [-B] [-d workdir] [-s source | -t tarball] [-L = logfile] [-M options] etcupdate resolve [-p] [-d workdir] [-D destdir] [-L logfile] etcupdate status [-d workdir] [-D destdir] . . . Again the "etcupdate extract" material does not show -D destdir as = valid. But I used it: # etcupdate extract -D usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-for-chroot and it created and filled in the workdir: /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-for-chroot/var/db/etcupdate/ I have not checked on if "etcupdate build" has a similar issue vs. not. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)