From nobody Mon Jun 21 16:57:00 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030F411D9B4E for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G7wg06bHbz4Qqy for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB525209FE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 15LGv0PD045374 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:57:00 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15LGv0IK045373 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:57:00 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 215061] COMPAT_LINUX32 in kernel with linux_enable causes undefined symbol on boot Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:57:00 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.0-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: commit-hook@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D215061 --- Comment #4 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch main references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3De013e36939ac87b53195370fb5e29f29c= 1a4b5c6 commit e013e36939ac87b53195370fb5e29f29c1a4b5c6 Author: Dmitry Chagin AuthorDate: 2021-06-22 05:32:39 +0000 Commit: Dmitry Chagin CommitDate: 2021-06-22 05:32:39 +0000 linux(4): Get rid of Linuxulator kernel build options. Stop confusing people, retire COMPAT_LINUX and COMPAT_LINUX32 kernel build options. Since we have 32 and 64 bit Linux emulators, we can't bu= ild both emulators together into the kernel. I don't think it matters, Linux emulation depends on loadable modules (via rc). Cut LINPROCFS and LINSYSFS for consistency. PR: 215061 Reviewed by: bcr (manpages), trasz Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D30751 MFC after: 2 weeks share/man/man4/aac.4 | 4 +--- share/man/man4/aacraid.4 | 4 +--- share/man/man4/linux.4 | 15 +----------- share/man/man4/tdfx.4 | 13 ++++++---- sys/amd64/conf/NOTES | 17 ------------- sys/conf/NOTES | 4 ++-- sys/conf/files | 5 ---- sys/conf/files.amd64 | 62 --------------------------------------------= ---- sys/conf/files.i386 | 58 -------------------------------------------- sys/conf/files.x86 | 1 - sys/conf/options.amd64 | 2 +- sys/i386/conf/NOTES | 16 +------------ 12 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 185 deletions(-) --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Jun 22 00:16:47 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F82411D2DB6 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G86QR0ngtz3GNf for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0053526E02 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 15M0GkT9071958 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:16:46 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15M0Gklx071957 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:16:46 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 256730] linsysfs adds duplicate pathnames on Ampere Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:16:47 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.0-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: emaste@freebsd.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D256730 Ed Maste changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dch@freebsd.org, | |emaste@freebsd.org, | |mhorne@freebsd.org --- Comment #1 from Ed Maste --- Can you add the firmware version installed on the eMAG system? --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Jun 22 00:50:15 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DD811D80FD for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G87931Nw7z3Q65 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1868127402 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 15M0oFrf088100 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:50:15 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15M0oFLQ088099 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:50:15 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 247301] linuxkpi: panic: Assertion td->td_lkpi_task == NULL failed at /usr/src/syscompat/linuxkpi/common/src/linux_current.c:53 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:50:15 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: crash, needs-qa X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: linimon@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Feedback Timeout X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? maintainer-feedback? mfc-stable12? mfc-stable11? X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_status resolution assigned_to Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D247301 Mark Linimon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Open |Closed Resolution|--- |Feedback Timeout Assignee|bugs@FreeBSD.org |emulation@FreeBSD.org --- Comment #7 from Mark Linimon --- ^Triage: close as no response in last few months. To submitter: if this is still a problem, let us know and we will re-open. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Jun 22 01:24:50 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45A55D1FB3 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G87wy49rDz3vkV for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78C3D27D8D for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 15M1Oo9M005876 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:24:50 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15M1Oomb005875 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:24:50 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 224920] limited broadcast for Linux programs Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:24:50 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.1-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: linimon@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: assigned_to Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D224920 Mark Linimon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Assignee|bugs@FreeBSD.org |emulation@FreeBSD.org --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Jun 22 13:52:16 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582F511D50C5 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G8SWN20Nqz4kRk for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E8A4120B1 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 15MDqGkT086089 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:52:16 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15MDqGbP086088 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:52:16 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 256730] linsysfs adds duplicate pathnames on Ampere Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:52:16 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.0-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: jfc@mit.edu X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D256730 --- Comment #2 from John F. Carr --- (In reply to Ed Maste from comment #1) The following is from the AMI boot screen. Can I get it from the OS? Version 2.19.1268 BIOS Version: 1.12 HVE104N(11/29/2019) BMC firmware: 11.05.111 --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Jun 22 15:58:42 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB0811DBDF4 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G8WKH5bgmz4tvd; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from aniel.nours.eu (nours.eu [176.31.115.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91632C027; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2BE61387BD; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:58:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:58:42 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: emulation@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Killing the vbox alias, or making it something different Message-ID: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello everyone, one thing that we are doing during the migration is making it mandatory for the mailing list to be either in CC or in the To, which means aliases to a mailing list will not work anymore. As of right now all email to vbox@ are bring rejected. In anycase, I can't find a valid reason to have a vbox alias to emulation@ why not make emulation@ the maintainer of the vbox software directly? Are you fine with me deprecating the vbox@ in favor or direct use of emulation@ ? Best regards, Bapt From nobody Tue Jun 22 20:40:37 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07DD11CACC3 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@portsmon.org) Received: from MTA-05-4.privateemail.com (mta-05-4.privateemail.com [68.65.122.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G8dZb4GS5z4RX7; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@portsmon.org) Received: from MTA-05.privateemail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MTA-05.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB9600A8; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 16:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from APP-07 (unknown [10.50.14.157]) by MTA-05.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6D265600BE; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 16:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:40:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "linimon@portsmon.org linimon@portsmon.org" To: Baptiste Daroussin , emulation@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Message-ID: <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> References: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> Subject: Re: Killing the vbox alias, or making it something different List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.4-Rev25 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G8dZb4GS5z4RX7 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On 06/22/2021 10:58 AM Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > I can't find a valid reason to have a vbox alias to emulation@ why > not make emulation@ the maintainer of the vbox software directly? I have no opinion on the matter other than to note that koobs@ and I are currently kicking around ideas about how to restructure assignees. We don't have anything firmed up yet. I guess I would say in _theory_ I would like to retain the possibility of assigning to aliases. But I am not prepared to do any work to make it happen so I don't think my vote counts :-) mcl From nobody Tue Jun 22 20:44:56 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E14111CB40A for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@portsmon.org) Received: from MTA-12-4.privateemail.com (mta-12-4.privateemail.com [198.54.127.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G8dgZ0zbYz4SP6; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@portsmon.org) Received: from mta-12.privateemail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta-12.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F73800BA; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 16:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from APP-07 (unknown [10.50.14.157]) by mta-12.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8E6BD800B8; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 16:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:44:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "linimon@portsmon.org linimon@portsmon.org" To: Baptiste Daroussin , emulation@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org, Bugmeister Message-ID: <1750111133.241983.1624394696539@privateemail.com> In-Reply-To: <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> References: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> Subject: Re: Killing the vbox alias, or making it something different List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.4-Rev25 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G8dgZ0zbYz4SP6 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of linimon@portsmon.org designates 198.54.127.107 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linimon@portsmon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.23 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.54.127.107:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[linimon]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:198.54.127.96/27]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[portsmon.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.54.127.107:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.931]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.54.127.107:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22612, ipnet:198.54.127.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[emulation]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[198.54.127.107:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On 06/22/2021 3:40 PM linimon@portsmon.org linimon@portsmon.org wrote: I forgot the important part. One of our short-term goals is to be able to do mass-reassigns without mass-emails. But we don't have code in place for that (yet). mcl From nobody Wed Jun 23 16:06:19 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506E15D6993 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G97Rf1sDRz3FZ2; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from aniel.nours.eu (nours.eu [176.31.115.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1061728304; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C05BE3A9A7; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 18:06:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 18:06:19 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: "linimon@portsmon.org linimon@portsmon.org" Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Killing the vbox alias, or making it something different Message-ID: <20210623160619.qfbpv3njxzcq36dq@aniel.nours.eu> References: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 03:40:37PM -0500, linimon@portsmon.org linimon@portsmon.org wrote: > > On 06/22/2021 10:58 AM Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > I can't find a valid reason to have a vbox alias to emulation@ why > > not make emulation@ the maintainer of the vbox software directly? > > I have no opinion on the matter other than to note that koobs@ and I > are currently kicking around ideas about how to restructure assignees. > We don't have anything firmed up yet. > > I guess I would say in _theory_ I would like to retain the possibility > of assigning to aliases. But I am not prepared to do any work to make > it happen so I don't think my vote counts :-) > > mcl I am not saying we should forbid vbox aliases, neither assigning to aliases ;) I am saying vox is an alias for emulation@ and nothing else, why not directly assign to emulation@ then? The mailing list software deny all incoming emails where the mailing list address is not in to or in cc field. (configurable, but I don't want unless convince otherwise). For now we have 3 possibilities: - kill vbox@ and replace it with emulation@ which is imho the best in this particular situation - teach emulation@ it can be named vbox@, but I really don't understand the point of doing that ;) - tell the mailing lists to accept any incoming email even if not sent to emulation@ which I am really reluctant to do. Best regards, Bapt From nobody Thu Jun 24 08:22:14 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C6C11E646C for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 09:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@freebsd.org) Received: from wae.k-dns.nl (wae.k-dns.nl [147.182.128.120]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G9Zfr1kl4z3kB1 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 09:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@freebsd.org) Received: from tundraware.com (unknown [172.93.166.239]) by wae.k-dns.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AE40189041 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 08:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: pass (wae: connection is authenticated) From: freebsd.org Server To: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Email Removal Notification Alert! Date: 24 Jun 2021 10:22:14 +0200 Message-ID: <20210624102214.ECB5D38D1F478F10@freebsd.org> List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G9Zfr1kl4z3kB1 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:147.182.128.0/20, country:US]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y

 




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From nobody Thu Jun 24 21:51:06 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8A19F1718 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@portsmon.org) Received: from MTA-08-3.privateemail.com (mta-08-3.privateemail.com [198.54.127.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G9v302kbBz3vYf; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@portsmon.org) Received: from MTA-08.privateemail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MTA-08.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A085E60101; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from APP-07 (unknown [10.50.14.157]) by MTA-08.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 76E66600BC; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 17:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:51:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "linimon@portsmon.org linimon@portsmon.org" To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org, Bugmeister Message-ID: <97809881.306058.1624571466444@privateemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210623160619.qfbpv3njxzcq36dq@aniel.nours.eu> References: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> <20210623160619.qfbpv3njxzcq36dq@aniel.nours.eu> Subject: Re: Killing the vbox alias, or making it something different List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.4-Rev25 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G9v302kbBz3vYf X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of linimon@portsmon.org designates 198.54.127.61 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linimon@portsmon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.54.127.61:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[linimon]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:198.54.127.32/27]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.54.127.61:from]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[portsmon.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.54.127.61:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.54.127.61:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22612, ipnet:198.54.127.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[emulation] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On 06/23/2021 11:06 AM Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > I am saying vbox is an alias for emulation@ and nothing else, why not directly > assign to emulation@ then? Hmm. I think it didn't use to be -- that it was an actual alias for a list of individual email addresses. Again, if it can wait for a few days for bugmeister to deply a mass-change-with-no-email feature, that would be nice. mcl From nobody Fri Jun 25 01:26:12 2021 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF97E11CE497 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 01:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G9zqL4fQkz4gVn; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 01:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com (auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: philip/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8237037D22; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 01:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4646F27C0054; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:26:22 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrfeegiedggeejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufffoffkjghfgggtsehttdhmtdertddtnecuhfhrohhmpefrhhhilhhi phcurfgrvghpshcuoehphhhilhhiphesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepvdfgtdelvdfggeegheefgfevtdekhfejledugfdvfeetgfduudelgedtledu kedunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepph hhihhlihhpodhmvghsmhhtphgruhhthhhpvghrshhonhgrlhhithihqdduudeiiedviedv geekqddvfeehudektddtkedqphhhihhlihhppeepfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghesthhroh husghlvgdrihhs X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:26:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Philip Paeps To: " linimon@portsmon.org" Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , emulation@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org, Bugmeister Subject: Re: Killing the vbox alias, or making it something different Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:26:12 +0800 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5816) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <97809881.306058.1624571466444@privateemail.com> References: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> <20210623160619.qfbpv3njxzcq36dq@aniel.nours.eu> <97809881.306058.1624571466444@privateemail.com> List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2021-06-25 05:51:06 (+0800), linimon@portsmon.org wrote: >> On 06/23/2021 11:06 AM Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> I am saying vbox is an alias for emulation@ and nothing else, why not >> directly >> assign to emulation@ then? > > Hmm. I think it didn't use to be -- that it was an actual alias for a > list of individual > email addresses. > > Again, if it can wait for a few days for bugmeister to deply a > mass-change-with-no-email > feature, that would be nice. I went digging through the mail-svn logs. On 2013-10-16 decke@ requested vbox@ to be forwarded to emulation@ because he was the only active person left on the alias. It sounds like the alias only continues to exist to catch mail for where it's referenced. Changing the references to emulation@ seems like it was the intended way forward 8 years ago. I'm sure we can wait a while for bugmeister to deploy their change, mass-reassign and delete the alias. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises