From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Feb 14 06:32:04 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70D954B773 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 06:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mail.oetec.com (mail.oetec.com [108.160.241.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.oetec.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DdcpW6SZvz4cfG for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 06:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) X-Spam-Status: No X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-oetec-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.1, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, DKIM_VALID_EF -0.10, NICE_REPLY_A -0.00, URIBL_BLOCKED 0.00) X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 11E6VqSn009609 X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact oetec for more information Received: from [172.16.35.2] (cpeac202e7325b3-cmac202e7325b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.253.170.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.oetec.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8) with ESMTPSA id 11E6VqSn009609 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 01:31:53 -0500 Subject: Re: Test of FreeBSD-13.0-ALPHA3-powerpc-powerpc64-20210129-40cb0344eb2-256214-disc1.iso.xz To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <8348beb1-06f4-6b65-cf62-74c81dcf31f6@blastwave.org> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 01:31:51 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8348beb1-06f4-6b65-cf62-74c81dcf31f6@blastwave.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DdcpW6SZvz4cfG X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.25 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blastwave.org:s=default]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[108.160.241.186:from:127.0.2.255]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[99.253.170.241:received]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blastwave.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blastwave.org,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.25)[-0.249]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[108.160.241.186:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ppc]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 06:32:04 -0000 On 2/12/21 8:53 AM, Dennis Clarke via freebsd-ppc wrote: > > Just a tiny note from me to let you know that I did just test the > installer image : > > FreeBSD-13.0-ALPHA3-powerpc-powerpc64-20210129-40cb0344eb2-256214-disc1.iso.xz > > Seen at https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.0 > > Wherein the boot process halts nearly immediately with a "decrementer" > error and some hex and then fans roaring. > > So that is not helpful but at least I tried. > > A bit more followup : The FreeBSD-13.0-BETA2 iso does install into a PowerMac G5 quad. One must/should interrupt the boot loader and enter these options : set kern.smp.disabled=1 set debug.rman_debug=1 set debug.verbose_sysinit=1 set usefdt=1 See : https://beta.genunix.com/freebsd/ppc64/freebsd_13_beta2_ppc64_boot001.png Then proceed with "boot -v" and that seems to work in a consistent fashion. I question my use of "usefdt=1" after the details seen in comment 10 of bugid 238730 : https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238730#c10 I can confirm that the network interfaces are re-ordered in that they are not in ether MAC address/hardware natural order : fbsd13b2# uname -apKU FreeBSD enceladus 13.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 #0 releng/13.0-n244498-6461715f1ae: Fri Feb 12 05:02:09 UTC 2021 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/powerpc.powerpc64/sys/GENERIC64 powerpc powerpc64 1300139 1300139 fbsd13b2# fbsd13b2# ifconfig -a fwe0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 02:11:24:e5:13:d0 nd6 options=29 ch 1 dma -1 bge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8009b ether 00:14:51:64:67:11 inet 172.16.35.8 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 172.16.35.63 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active nd6 options=29 bge1: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8009b ether 00:14:51:64:67:10 media: Ethernet autoselect nd6 options=29 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=680003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 groups: lo nd6 options=21 fbsd13b2# There appears to be no option for ZFS in the installer. Perhaps manual gpart and then zpool handling *may* be possible but I did not look for that at this time. Performance is best described as terrible. I did fetch src.txz from the releases directory : https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/powerpc/powerpc64/13.0-BETA2/ Currently running a buildworld which appears that it will be some days before that completes. This may actually be slower than a qemu instance of FreeBSD-CURRENT on RISC-V. The Decrementer exception seen in December CURRENT no longer exists. Seen here https://beta.genunix.com/freebsd/ppc64/power_mac_quad_freebsd_13_current_17_dec_2020_fail.png I want to dig into the smp issue if I can but at the moment I will await for a full buildworld/buildkernel and then see where we are. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional