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[88.111.224.31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm9098951wmb.15.2021.06.20.11.31.48 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 19:31:47 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bridging from WiFi to ethernet Message-ID: <20210620193147.326e6e84@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G7Lpv0x4Bz4bBD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.111.224.31:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::429:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::429:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::429:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:31:52 -0000 Does anyone have a working set of entries in rc.conf to bridge traffic between ethernet and WiFI adaptors? The reason I ask is that I have an ethernet printer that I only use from a Windows laptop (and maybe android in future). The printer used to plug into the wireless router, but a new router is next to the master socket, and the printer is now inaccessible from mobile devices. My wifi is set up like this wlans_rtwn0="wlan0" create_args_wlan0="country GB" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid mynetworkname" and it works (without bridging). From what it says in section 32.6 of the handbook I thought that something like the following would work: ifconfig_re0="up" # Ethernet adaptor wlans_rtwn0="wlan0" create_args_wlan0="country GB" ifconfig_wlan0="up WPA ssid mynetworkname" # IP address goes on the bridge ifconfig_bridge0=" inet 192.168.1.101/24 addm re0 addm wlan0 up" but after booting the bridge had no IP address and only had re0 as a member. Thinking it was likely a timing problem I commented-out the bridge line and configured the bridge manually after boot. I also ran route add default 192.168.1.1 The bridge now had an IP address and two member interfaces. bridge0 was also showing as the interface for the default route. It all looked OK, but it doesn't work. I can't even ping the router. 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After some disk issues, I had to >reinstall my workstation and I'm currently fighting a losing battle. I >hope I'm missing something. I do feel a bit lost with all the changes >that have happened since I last actually did some under-the-hood stuff >in FreeBSD so I might well be going about this all backwards. > >I installed 13.0-RELEASE which went fine, but trying to get X to work >is failing. I have an old NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 which worked fine on >the old version (I think I had FreeBSD 10.2), now I'm trying to follow >the handbook instructions and download the driver directly from >NVIDIA's site. First I downloaded NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-460.84, which >built ok, but when starting X it says that my card is only supported >by the legacy driver -390, so I downloaded >NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-390.143. This one won't build as it say that the >driver does not support FreeBSD 13.0 So catch-22 so far. > >Is there some other way I should be getting the drivers or some way to >get either of these to work with me. I really don't have to buy a new >machine. I guess I could reinstall with an older FreeBSD version >again, but seems a bit wrong to do that. > >TIA, >Kristofer Is there a specific reason you are not using nVidia from the port's system? Port: nvidia-driver-390-390.143_1 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-390 Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering Or, if need be: Port: nvidia-secondary-driver-390-390.143_1 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-secondary-driver-390 Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering o= n secondary device --=20 Jerry --Sig_/YLdeBJ4GnpmZsebvx8qULbs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEELeCiu2K+9VmEYYgTgHBP8gv9FXcFAmDV2JAACgkQgHBP8gv9 FXfB/wv+LGnIlBpiRikQsbwUqtKGudm65rJ0NFo7V+Ja6Xdh3cg5MX0OH/lyLkKR hLD3gb/Q/DVKlGgZcFYu9YWkVZeMgcxrrlZ61/sOdg7VLGABuoZma8rce2km9iQ4 94W2MqwlRKu5Qw5Ti9K68NVIpEoeFwWC6Bz3JKEfbROINQmaFIna+NkCtGd6Rkxg bhlZ+G6D7Ye1x00RBhhq7KISAYUcFuJtaLwcbAvMAazkxvzzMZi6iq5/dXUOW6lk uN5fA1IvHoWICAgZuGOKXEIeIyPyIYKzhK8yo+WUnO6/zQqOW14oEYwCbwhPKvPW D+/vKfyybH1NlPS4VGeE8SzTtmJhpssASUKUr/cSMTtX1YhRXyKTeeI/4Iq3qCjL bPW0oNEXVNTh9DFD5nSxDkwa0JCN2kVeInmLh0WpjQh2LqHncwPer7g6ILj2JzUT 0nONi1vt5N2Z0zCK0b/4OtXm+hsA9ncDc37rOkBbAc7HAcOeVc21RHrHVr+flqtU +iX1Jb95 =TwfZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/YLdeBJ4GnpmZsebvx8qULbs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 25 18:03:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7A86405B3 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 18:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GBPxJ3GVWz4t0r for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 18:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [172.58.139.185]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD46A4E651; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 13:02:53 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Subject: Re: Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure? From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 13:02:52 -0500 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <46532F65-3AAA-40D1-9D68-D1F853E94616@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <667D63A4-B334-4404-B9F4-5A37EAC44FDF@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: Kristofer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GBPxJ3GVWz4t0r X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[protonmail.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.139.185:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 18:03:01 -0000 > On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Kristofer = wrote: >=20 > Hi Valeri, >=20 > thanks for the answer. I"m not aware of an open source driver for = FreeBSD, I thought that Nouveau only worked on Linux these days? Is = there another one, if so, where can I find it? >=20 pkg name is: xf86-video-nv-2.1.21_4 and driver name is nv. Take a look what else you may need of xf86 and = xorg packages. And good luck! Open source driver will not be able to drive two minors of different = resolution in dual monitor configuration. It is because nvidia does not = disclose chip internals (especially video memory layout), so it is = impossible to write decent video driver. Open source nvidia driver only = supports most basic features on nvidia cards. For comparison, ATI (and = now owned by AMD still does it) always disclosed chip internals, = that=E2=80=99s why open source drivers for ATI cards are great and are = supporting a lot of their features. So, to the contrary to [misguided = IMHO] large number of Linux folks who love NVIDIA, I for one always = preferred ATI, they always were my life saver. And I stared disliking NVIDIA even more once I faced their obsoleting = their cards as very young age. Incidentally, Apple once used NVIDIA = chips, but after they had one NVIDIA chip in their MacBook Pro that had = bug in silicon, and was crashing next release of MacOS, Apple started = program replacing faulty hardware. The program stopped rather quickly, = _MY_ assessment is: they (Apple) asked NVIDIA to cover their share of = losses, which was their fault in the first place, and NVIDIA refused. No = nvidia chips in any Apple products since (but Apple had to close = hardware replacement program, somewhat marring their excellent before = that reputation). Good luck! Valeri > /Kristofer >=20 >=20 > -------- Original Message -------- > On 25 Jun 2021, 15:09, Valeri Galtsev < galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> = wrote: >=20 >=20 > On June 25, 2021 4:37:27 AM CDT, Kristofer via freebsd-questions = wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I've been using FreeBSD for many years, but I very seldom update so = my > >knowledge is very much out of date. After some disk issues, I had to > >reinstall my workstation and I'm currently fighting a losing battle. = I > >hope I'm missing something. I do feel a bit lost with all the changes > >that have happened since I last actually did some under-the-hood = stuff > >in FreeBSD so I might well be going about this all backwards. > > > >I installed 13.0-RELEASE which went fine, but trying to get X to work > >is failing. > >I have an old NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 which worked fine on the old > >version (I think I had FreeBSD 10.2), now I'm trying to follow the > >handbook instructions and download the driver directly from NVIDIA's > >site. > >First I downloaded NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-460.84, which built ok, but > >when starting X it says that my card is only supported by the legacy > >driver -390, so I downloaded NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-390.143. This one > >won't build as it say that the driver does not support FreeBSD 13.0 > >So catch-22 so far. > > >=20 > That is why any day I will give 3 old nvidia cards for a sngle old ati = card. Did you try open source driver? >=20 > Incidentally, it is not nvidia driver that you are compiling, but an = interface between kernel and binary proproetary driver. >=20 > Valeri >=20 > >Is there some other way I should be getting the drivers or some way = to > >get either of these to work with me. I really don't have to buy a new > >machine. I guess I could reinstall with an older FreeBSD version = again, > >but seems a bit wrong to do that. > > > >TIA, > >Kristofer > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 25 19:28:08 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7DA6414D5 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GBRqV70qLz3DtR for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id 106A84E6A9; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 12:28:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: Kristofer cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure? 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I have a simimar problem, since FreeBSD these days no longer fully support= s my admittedly ancient AMD-based video card... and as a result, I sometimes get kernel crashes (althought not too frequently). I don't think there is anything to be done about these kinds of problems unless you are willing & able to roll up your sleeves and fix the video drivers that are of interest to you yourself. The next best altetrnative, short of purchasing all new hardware, is to just buy & install a different and newer video card. Regards, rfg P.S. It would be Good if whoever does work on the video card support in FreeBSD could create and maintain a short list of "cheap" video cards that are actually supported now, and that should remain so for at least the next few years. 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Guilmette" writes: > P.S. It would be Good if whoever does work on the video card support > in FreeBSD could create and maintain a short list of "cheap" video > cards that are actually supported now, and that should remain so for > at least the next few years. Yes, _PLEASE_! (s/video cards/chipsets) I use AMD, not Nvidia, but I have been looking for over a year for a low end card actively supported by drm-kmod and/or drm-current-kmod. Figuring out which chipsets they support ... let's just call it both educational and frustrating. (For anyone in my position: I _think_ the RX 460 and above support GCN 2.1, which is what I _think_ is the bottom-end specification. Cards matching this number seem to start at about US $50.) 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <36919.1624649280@segfault.tristatelogic.com> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <33d89cc2-e204-d96d-682c-75d030acf02b@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 02:15:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36919.1624649280@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GBbXd2R4Vz3tHC X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lZ4bbX9V; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.01 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42c:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42c:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.992]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42c:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 01:15:46 -0000 On 25/06/2021 20:28, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > … FreeBSD these days no longer fully supports my admittedly > ancient AMD-based video card... and as a result, I sometimes > get kernel crashes (althought not too frequently). … What's the card? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 26 02:39:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F256486F2 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 02:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weaver@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GBdNh2t1Kz4Yjk for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 02:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weaver@riseup.net) Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GBdC52PNXzDsDw for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:30:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1624674641; bh=6DbOjpwBIK/DPNiQ95q5TvzpjGm99a9vCVec3qB2bS4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=NqUDBddeNDeQuWMK9QBbGWdHmD5BpMTQrRWvN10xH0tDk5reA1ilEyZJtju0zIbg9 fImEiR5u99HiX3jZ8slt+1H/P1D+4f/A3GnZaELl6gfMjc4e2sai4B8uBca5r5hpLh IXitlS8fXrK+lyJX4g99MeVXZsDyLOyESKizRkYk= X-Riseup-User-ID: 5A18737F753675495DFEC90DAABDCF8F2BFAAAAB466073C5AEC2C2D87C3AED6D Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4GBdC51BzTz5vNc for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:30:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:30:41 -0700 From: Weaver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_J=E2=80=99ai_de_mauvaises_nouvelles_pour_vous=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5b464a99d0137601f4f7dbbc1ed6f748@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GBdNh2t1Kz4Yjk X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=NqUDBdde; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of weaver@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=weaver@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.90 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; LEAKED_PASSWORD_SCAM_RE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; BITCOIN_ADDR(0.00)[3QXpgJiAt67X9d2rEVGKmQCojxZ1dxLJKy]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; LEAKED_PASSWORD_SCAM(7.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 02:39:01 -0000 On 26-06-2021 11:56, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Je vous salue! > > J’ai de mauvaises nouvelles pour vous. > 10/11/2020 – ce jour-là, j’ai piraté votre système d’exploitation et > obtenu un accès complet à votre compte . > > Pas la peine de changer le mot de passe, mon logiciel malveillant > l’intercepte à chaque fois. > > Comment c’était: > Le logiciel du routeur auquel vous étiez connecté ce jour-là > comportait une vulnérabilité. > J’ai d’abord piraté ce routeur et y ai placé mon code malveillant. > Lorsque vous êtes entré sur Internet, mon cheval de Troie était > installé sur le système d’exploitation de votre appareil. > > Après cela, j’ai effectué une sauvegarde complète de votre disque > (j’ai tout votre carnet d’adresses, > l’historique des sites de visionnage, tous les fichiers, les numéros > de téléphone et les adresses de tous vos contacts). > > Il y a un mois, je voulais verrouiller votre appareil et demander un > peu d’argent pour le déverrouiller. > Mais j’ai jeté un œil sur les sites que vous visitez régulièrement, et > j’ai eu grand plaisir à voir vos ressources préférées. > Je parle de sites pour adultes. > > Je veux dire – tu es un grand pervers. Vous avez une fantaisie débridée! > > Après cela, une idée m’est venue à l’esprit. > J’ai fait une capture d’écran du site Web intimeoù vous contentez-vous > (Comprends-tu ce que je veux dire?). > Après cela, j’ai fait une vidéo de votre plaisir (en utilisant la > caméra de votre appareil). Il s’est avéré magnifique! > > Je suis fermement convaincu que vous ne voudriez pas montrer ces > photos à vos parents, amis ou collègues. > Je pense que 386€ est une très petite somme pour mon silence. > En plus, j’ai passé beaucoup de temps sur toi! > > J’accepte de l’argent uniquement en Bitcoins. > Mon portefeuille BTC: 3QXpgJiAt67X9d2rEVGKmQCojxZ1dxLJKy > > Vous ne savez pas comment reconstituer un portefeuille Bitcoin? > Dans n’importe quel moteur de recherche, écrivez « comment acheter de la BTC ». > C’est plus facile que d’envoyer de l’argent à une carte de crédit! > > Pour le paiement, vous avez un peu plus de deux jours (exactement 50 heures). > Ne vous inquiétez pas, la minuterie commencera au moment où vous > ouvrez cette lettre. Oui, oui .. cela a déjà commencé! > > Après paiement, mon virus et vos photos sales avec vous > s’autodétruisent automatiquement. > Si je ne reçois pas le montant spécifié de votre part, votre appareil > sera bloqué et tous vos contacts recevront une photo avec vos « joies > ». > > Je veux que tu sois prudent. > – N’essayez pas de trouver et de détruire mon virus! (Toutes vos > données sont déjà téléchargées sur un serveur distant) > – N’essayez pas de me contacter (ce n’est pas faisable, je vous ai > envoyé un email depuis votre compte) > – Divers services de sécurité ne vous aideront pas. formater un disque > ou détruire un périphérique ne vous aidera pas non plus, puisque vos > données sont déjà sur un serveur distant. > > P.S. Je vous garantis que je ne vous dérangerai plus après le > paiement, car vous n’êtes pas ma seule victime. > C’est un code d’honneur des hackers. > > À partir de maintenant, je vous conseille d’utiliser de bons antivirus > et de les mettre à jour régulièrement (plusieurs fois par jour)! > > Ne soyez pas en colère contre moi, tout le monde a son propre travail. > Adieu. Boy, do I have news for you! Cheers! Harry -- `When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty' -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 26 03:27:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7692F64A424 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 03:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GBfSv2GCjz4kqp for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 03:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id 3FECD4E6A9; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 20:27:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: Graham Perrin cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panics with ancient AMD-based graphics (was: video Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure?) 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Guilmette wrote: > ? FreeBSD these days no longer fully supports my admittedly > ancient AMD-based video card... and as a result, I sometimes > get kernel crashes (althought not too frequently). ? What's the card? Not sure exactly. It's something with an AMD HD5450 on it. Why? can you make my kernel stop crashing? If so, please do. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 26 07:34:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAA864D2AD for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 07:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-wm1-x32b.google.com (mail-wm1-x32b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GBlxd5FvSz3lqL for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 07:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-wm1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id k30-20020a05600c1c9eb02901d4d33c5ca0so1841225wms.3 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 00:34:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jyKcLQqTHoHEXxuFZ1Ocy/oOZoKwY61j2lj5zo2Vt3Y=; b=Y9umOsBkscmnPdLUxOSVGsCBZTPR7q5j48Yf9yKbNP85qGArOhhFsni6vZQcV/GOEi bgelphoOIRhNzWgv7v2pafupGUfM9PRkflQE5k28DqlKon/fCuRm0pIBk5JIv8qfWKX7 e5ywsdV9e3h01akDEd+2Fs9okXS9q8fxoxNyaBYzpQIMg3/6Ro3BJ0gMvNSFNlUiKe4c 9a2xQj/KS8NjkGTa2jCE02LUoTUaxVBTUUBYMesPcENdPhP89XRgiI++kVTHBsqKBYoH 1/lcJaxZHBIqvmzmRIrC4ZbPHN4+Cy4nSEuRBXux1LwsrQqEVvKtFETd2/tpAGKH21Er A25w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jyKcLQqTHoHEXxuFZ1Ocy/oOZoKwY61j2lj5zo2Vt3Y=; b=ENU7/n4J18zxxeK5fFpdn8V35Mg7bxPq81hPsRAU23aK5QvlN6tyZ5pbFYaYo353t5 7mCtqySIFr/ruuYlC5TtBb94vokakLpGRNsJnBHz4j1cRYu9Lw8PZQ9jSkppEOj5IfnS CdWqfmt+qFMPzet9CzQvo2KLjEfSp0YgERm5TRbUH/YxT0EQcOt/gw0bVZWSqoDciZwK XD8Gf42OpWL4AG6oGh/CcXDsl3UwQASfStQ/QLqHrpMAIsheBFgA0fmSDvoq1nYKdeG8 LtF7t/OrG/NsIWfGjyqpvwVDVbDlGB2QMvSlQx9AbrEK+rjl3AoaAV+U65QI5whw/6pL HEDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532VJBiJS3thrYZSDOBBvRappp3fXAnpwStMRvutbyVwU7ZCmZUc gL6Fjts62hCCudjb3D+AsAe8NkyaW8P/gNuFm0BCUg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJycCe+VCFEwkhRDo8cAzEaLjB8lqiW4v8c8dfjDyLpK8wiAxo8sVmlM1i9WAS0gzIPAY8VyfLnZVsPNny+tUFo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:354f:: with SMTP id i15mr15141837wmq.101.1624692868020; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 00:34:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <33d89cc2-e204-d96d-682c-75d030acf02b@gmail.com> <40559.1624678061@segfault.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <40559.1624678061@segfault.tristatelogic.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:34:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kernel panics with ancient AMD-based graphics (was: video Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure?) 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Guilmette" Cc: Graham Perrin , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GBlxd5FvSz3lqL X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=Y9umOsBk; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::32b) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.45 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32b:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.15)[-0.154]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32b:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32b:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 07:34:30 -0000 I also have AMDGPU (modern strong one) and it krashes my machine sometimes. Because OpenCL does not work on it I falled back to simple framebuffer display.. Efficient and Stable Graphics is something FreeBSD needs badly nowadays to make it attractive desktop platform. Sad that Sony uses FreeBSD on Playstation but shares nothing back in this area :-( -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 26 04:45:12 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BFE64B599 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 04:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saimabaig11@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg1-x52a.google.com (mail-pg1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GBhBH26Y2z4v99 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 04:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saimabaig11@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id v7so9982021pgl.2 for ; 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FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[103.208.71.171:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a:from:127.0.2.255]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:06:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 04:45:12 -0000 My question relates to how does the kernel go about its business of discovering PCI devices (after boot time) . I am loading the e1000(em) driver by kldloading the `if_em` module. The kernel seems to be calling the probe routine multiple times. So the log below includes messages coming from the kernel and also includes my own debug logs. ``` Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em probing Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 syslogd: last message repeated 5 times Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em0: +++ Calling em_register Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em probing Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 syslogd: last message repeated 5 times Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em0: +++ Calling em_register Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em probing Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em0: +++ Calling em_register Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em0: port 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xfd5c0000-0xfd5dffff,0xfdff0000-0xfdffffff irq 19 at device 1.0 on pci2 Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em attaching Jun 25 11:16:45 FreeBSD12 kernel: em0: +++ Calling em_register Jun 25 11:17:34 FreeBSD12 kernel: em0: Using 2048 TX descriptors and 2048 RX descriptors Jun 25 11:17:35 FreeBSD12 kernel: em probing Jun 25 11:17:35 FreeBSD12 syslogd: last message repeated 5 times Jun 25 11:17:35 FreeBSD12 kernel: em1: +++ Calling em_register Jun 25 11:17:35 FreeBSD12 kernel: em probing Jun 25 11:17:36 FreeBSD12 kernel: Base = 5ee7e000, Length = 8000 ``` It seems that the `probe->register` sequence seems to be getting repeated multiple times until the adapter is identified properly and its resources allocated. Isn't multiple registration a cause of concern? Or may something is wrong with the way I think. May be I am not getting it right? Could someone elaborate? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 26 06:37:02 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C88864C8B7 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 06:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gundoghusse@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch (mail-4318.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.18]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "SwissSign Server Gold CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GBkgJ6jfCz3hFF for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 06:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gundoghusse@protonmail.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 06:36:42 +0000 To: rfg@tristatelogic.com From: Kristofer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: Kristofer Subject: Re: Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure? 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[90.156.31.193]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w6sm750070lfk.183.2021.06.26.03.24.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 26 Jun 2021 03:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 12:24:02 +0200 From: Serpent7776 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: Graham Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panics with ancient AMD-based graphics (was: video Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure?) 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Guilmette" wrote: > In message <33d89cc2-e204-d96d-682c-75d030acf02b@gmail.com>, you wrote: > > On 25/06/2021 20:28, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > ? FreeBSD these days no longer fully supports my admittedly > > ancient AMD-based video card... and as a result, I sometimes > > get kernel crashes (althought not too frequently). ? > What's the card? > > > Not sure exactly. It's something with an AMD HD5450 on it. > > Why? can you make my kernel stop crashing? > > If so, please do. I had Radeon HD 5450 on my machine and it started to crash my system at random moments after upgrade to 12-RELEASE. It was hardware acceleration that caused this. When I disabled it with Section "Extensions" Option "GLX" "Disable" EndSection in /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/disable-gpu.conf it was working fine. I replaced the video card with GeForce GT 710 and I'm using x11/nvidia-driver, and it's working fine with hardware acceleration. -- /* * Serpent7776 */ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 26 14:57:03 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2388865500A for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GBxmF74Swz4qly for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [172.58.136.113]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B7054E699; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:57:00 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Subject: Re: Kernel panics with ancient AMD-based graphics (was: video Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure?) 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Cards matching this number seem to start at about > >US $50.) > > GCN is the name of the GPU architecture, not something a GPU > "supports".. Got that; the "support" is from the software. I have two conflicting desires: a) I want to run modern applications ... on the latest stable version of X ... using an actively maintained and improved version of amdgpu/drm ... working with reasonably high-performance hardware. b) I have a very limited budget, and would ideally like to be able to use this on older systems - say ones with a PCIe 2.0 expansion slot. Finding a card that meets these specifications has been ... educational. That's why I'm hoping someone more knowledgable has done the work and would be willing to publish it. Respectfully, Robert Huff