From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 4 17:49:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A5E648BAB for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 17:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GHxCD5npMz3lds for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 17:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c5cce7d7 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 19:49:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 761def76 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 19:49:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 70162c77 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 19:49:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id c994416f (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 19:49:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:49:01 -0400 From: LuMiWa To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: qtchooser Message-ID: <20210704134901.79242039@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GHxCD5npMz3lds X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[78.46.223.134:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[78.46.223.134:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.46.223.134:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2021 17:49:14 -0000 20210704: AFFECTS: users of misc/qtchooser AUTHOR: kde@FreeBSD.org QtChooser allows you to select your version of Qt among those installed. However, this tool is no longer supported upstream and will not be available for Qt6. By default, our Qt installations are done in: ${LOCALBASE}/lib/qt${QT_VERSION} as recommended. We have added symbolic linking for the main binaries to=20 ${LOCALBASE}/bin with the suffix -qt5. pkg delete qtchooser Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Deinstallation has been requested for the following 92 packages (of 0 packages in the universe): Installed packages to be REMOVED: FreeCAD: 0.19.2_1 SoQt: 1.6.0_1,1 avogadro2: 1.94.0_1 avogadrolibs: 1.94.0_1 blender: 2.91.0_9 dsbmixer: 1.7_1 fcl05: 0.5.0_1 gammy: 0.9.64_1 gstreamer1-plugins-all: 1.16_1 gstreamer1-plugins-qt: 1.16.2 hplip: 3.20.6 hplip-plugin: 3.20.6 inkscape: 1.0.2_6 libQGLViewer: 2.7.2_1 libreoffice: 7.1.4.2 lyx: 2.3.4.2_1 molequeue: 0.9.0_3 octomap: 1.9.7_1 openimageio: 2.2.13.1_4 py38-pivy: 0.6.6 py38-pyside2: 5.15.2_1 py38-pyside2-tools: 5.15.2_1 py38-python-fcl: 0.0.12_1 py38-qt5-core: 5.15.4 py38-qt5-dbus: 5.15.4 py38-qt5-dbussupport: 5.15.4 py38-qt5-gui: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-network: 5.15.4 py38-qt5-opengl: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-printsupport: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-qml: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-quick: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-sql: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-svg: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-webchannel: 5.15.4 py38-qt5-webengine: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-webkit: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-webkitwidgets: 5.15.4_1 py38-qt5-widgets: 5.15.4_1 py38-shiboken2: 5.15.2_1 py38-trimesh: 3.5.25 qscintilla2-qt5: 2.12.0_1 qt5-3d: 5.15.2_2 qt5-assistant: 5.15.2 qt5-buildtools: 5.15.2_1 qt5-charts: 5.15.2 qt5-concurrent: 5.15.2_2 qt5-core: 5.15.2_5 qt5-datavis3d: 5.15.2_1 qt5-dbus: 5.15.2_1 qt5-declarative: 5.15.2_1 qt5-designer: 5.15.2_1 qt5-gamepad: 5.15.2_2 qt5-graphicaleffects: 5.15.2 qt5-gui: 5.15.2_5 qt5-help: 5.15.2_1 qt5-imageformats: 5.15.2 qt5-linguisttools: 5.15.2 qt5-location: 5.15.2_1 qt5-multimedia: 5.15.2_2 qt5-network: 5.15.2_1 qt5-opengl: 5.15.2_2 qt5-printsupport: 5.15.2_1 qt5-qmake: 5.15.2 qt5-quickcontrols: 5.15.2_1 qt5-quickcontrols2: 5.15.2_1 qt5-remoteobjects: 5.15.2_2 qt5-script: 5.15.2_1 qt5-scripttools: 5.15.2_1 qt5-scxml: 5.15.2_1 qt5-sensors: 5.15.2_1 qt5-serialport: 5.15.2_1 qt5-speech: 5.15.2_2 qt5-sql: 5.15.2_1 qt5-sqldrivers-sqlite3: 5.15.2 qt5-svg: 5.15.2_1 qt5-testlib: 5.15.2_1 qt5-uiplugin: 5.15.2 qt5-uitools: 5.15.2_1 qt5-webchannel: 5.15.2_1 qt5-webengine: 5.15.2_3 qt5-webkit: 5.212.0.a4_5 qt5-websockets: 5.15.2_1 qt5-widgets: 5.15.2_1 qt5-x11extras: 5.15.2_1 qt5-xml: 5.15.2_1 qt5-xmlpatterns: 5.15.2 qtchooser: 66_4 qutebrowser: 2.3.0 scribus-devel: 1.5.7_2 stellarium: 0.21.1 xpdf: 4.03,1 I know that pkg delete -f works but what should be correct step, please? 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Removing=20 /usr/src and /var/db/gitup/stable* and trying anew with fresh clone=20 fails the same way. Any hints? Thank you, Hrant # /usr/local/bin/gitup -V gitup version 0.94 # # # /usr/local/bin/gitup stable # Scanning local repository... # Host: git.freebsd.org # Port: 443 # Repository Path: /src.git # Target Directory: /usr/src # Have: cb5fe9aa9fa0376078abc173b27605b6096dc681 # Want: 2ecf3f2c57749f9968a50a1ce2c2cc29c6f17823 # Branch: stable/13 # Action: pull gitup: load_object: local file for object=20 3331601f6dc50ef2c9779c1656218701b48b276c -- /usr/src/sys/c ontrib/openzfs/scripts/zfs-images not found: No such file or directory # # # rm -rf /usr/src /var/db/gitup/stable* # /usr/local/bin/gitup stable # Scanning local repository... # Host: git.freebsd.org # Port: 443 # Repository Path: /src.git # Target Directory: /usr/src # Want: 2ecf3f2c57749f9968a50a1ce2c2cc29c6f17823 # Branch: stable/13 # Action: clone gitup: load_object: local file for object=20 3331601f6dc50ef2c9779c1656218701b48b276c --=20 /usr/src/sys/contrib/openzfs/scripts/zfs-images not found: No such file=20 or directory https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/sys/contrib/openzfs/scripts : Mode Name S= ize [snip] m--------- sys/contrib/openzfs/scripts/zfs-images @ 3331601=20 0 logblame [snip] --=20 Hrant Dadivanyan - hrant(at)dadivanyan.net /* "Feci quod potui, faciant meliora potentes." */ --PgHHhVWPNLU6JciPpibdIb7mLqMXUD42W-- --SevSKnhtDbrHSRK2xdxN5ZXDzPOYMehbN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2406:3400:35e:6602::a01:232:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[thismonkey.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10143, ipnet:2406:3400:340::/42, country:AU]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 15:46:01 -0000 Hi all, I have a few FreeBSD hosts with IPv6 and am struggling to get FreeBSD to respect an RA with the on-link flag un-set. I have manually configured IPv6 on the interfaces: ifconfig_vmx0_ipv6="inet6 xx::yy prefer_source accept_rtadv -autoconf no_radr" The prefix appears in the prefix list as: # ndp -p xx::/64 if=vmx0 flags=LO vltime=infinity, pltime=infinity, expire=Never, ref=1 No advertising router Note how the L flag is set. ifconfig does not seem to allow for specifying off-link (or no on-link) for a subnet, so I was hoping FreeBSD would rely on the router RA. According to rfc5942, 4.1 states (edited): The assignment of an IPv6 address through manual configuration MUST NOT implicitly cause a prefix derived from that address to be treated as on-link. A host considers a prefix to be on-link only through explicit means. Here's the received RA: 01:26:48.355186 IP6 (class 0xe0, hlim 255, next-header ICMPv6 (58) payload length: 64) fe80::1 > ff02::1: [icmp6 sum ok] ICMP6, router advertisement, length 64 hop limit 64, Flags [none], pref high, router lifetime 1800s, reachable time 0ms, retrans timer 0ms source link-address option (1), length 8 (1): 00:00:5e:00:02:02 mtu option (5), length 8 (1): 9000 prefix info option (3), length 32 (4): xx::/64, Flags [none], valid time 3600s, pref. time 60s Note that there is no L flag set, so the prefix is off-link. However FreeBSD does not update the prefix list accordingly. Am I doing something wrong here? Or is FreeBSD not following the rules? 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Skuhra" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable/13 update with gitup Message-ID: References: <4a82f33f-592c-343c-7fa7-8389a9a13d0b@dadivanyan.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4a82f33f-592c-343c-7fa7-8389a9a13d0b@dadivanyan.net> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GJWjH1PWzz4nHj X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gojira.at header.s=mail202005 header.b=jLp1noYy; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of herbert@gojira.at designates 2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=herbert@gojira.at X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 16:43:48 -0000 On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 07:32:27PM +0400, Hrant Dadivanyan wrote: > > Hello, > > It's about a month that I can't update stable/13 with gitup. Removing > /usr/src and /var/db/gitup/stable* and trying anew with fresh clone fails > the same way. Any hints? https://github.com/johnmehr/gitup/issues/69 https://github.com/johnmehr/gitup/issues/69#issuecomment-869225041 -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 5 17:44:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABA1660A31 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2021 17:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrant.dadivanyan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-f52.google.com (mail-ed1-f52.google.com [209.85.208.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GJY2l1yLVz4vBh for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2021 17:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrant.dadivanyan@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-f52.google.com with SMTP id m1so24497819edq.8 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 10:43:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=m/CvViua7+VaHt07MwmOKZjD+cPaqo9h5c9A3BFKqIw=; b=sAtmF0+rPoN5m38Dzlvu4aO54ITUxloq9UJ38wbXTc97qV9wmcfz87VcXYgyGPYMrV yHka66X4I/tsziF7HfPotLe3ekXU3wdPXBaaGisumLYQwf/0JKJheahtWfjHXQLRBTHs NUTuv3Kmsqb7jT0WyRFxU0/L2CZ+kwPw/Xg9FmGgu4tdrkiH/dajmyPQ2JLW6tbhbnSw udOBJTtbdYYkPZ/y5mjM+M/BXXc/aef3Y8apx6Jm3I4yPfmyz5V7OzkTvPt6Tcyjx3vx dpotZIYFwx+aTXqdKBAIiHki7094t+35AR5eQZiCH85nV9RMeCtCWnp0ueGT/IkmzF6C 8XwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530rcObjUItlqEHFZQcS8ojagjbYJqYHmj6km/JLuvlGvLrnAyjU 3HDdxHHdNKtA5V45jGMdOkkukhb5k8nyKw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzvBpnlcVeuO/xyzZ28zO4FFtgR+FS3cTFu8MGvhhEKJKhOWLFCq57SWdWekw9FH8frlsJi+g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:358a:: with SMTP id y10mr17654620edc.125.1625507037330; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dadivanyan.net ([2001:470:6f:ab:3a00:25ff:fe6a:68be]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j5sm4674463ejn.19.2021.07.05.10.43.56 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Jul 2021 10:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: stable/13 update with gitup To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4a82f33f-592c-343c-7fa7-8389a9a13d0b@dadivanyan.net> From: Hrant Dadivanyan Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 21:43:55 +0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Cvn72oMy3T8AWYB9UCqjAb4RNFCpJcizO" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GJY2l1yLVz4vBh X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hrantdadivanyan@gmail.com designates 209.85.208.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hrantdadivanyan@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.08 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hrant@dadivanyan.com,hrantdadivanyan@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hrant@dadivanyan.com,hrantdadivanyan@gmail.com]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.85.208.52:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.984]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dadivanyan.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.85.208.52:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.208.52:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.208.52:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 17:44:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Cvn72oMy3T8AWYB9UCqjAb4RNFCpJcizO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1qxfSNjTV2dR3F6SEj9AOu21mTm4AJbBz"; protected-headers="v1" From: Hrant Dadivanyan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: stable/13 update with gitup References: <4a82f33f-592c-343c-7fa7-8389a9a13d0b@dadivanyan.net> In-Reply-To: --1qxfSNjTV2dR3F6SEj9AOu21mTm4AJbBz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Clone starts to work after upgrading to the new version. Thank you, Hrant On 7/5/21 8:43 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 07:32:27PM +0400, Hrant Dadivanyan wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> It's about a month that I can't update stable/13 with gitup. Removing >> /usr/src and /var/db/gitup/stable* and trying anew with fresh clone fa= ils >> the same way. Any hints? >=20 > https://github.com/johnmehr/gitup/issues/69 >=20 > https://github.com/johnmehr/gitup/issues/69#issuecomment-869225041 >=20 --=20 Hrant Dadivanyan - hrant(at)dadivanyan.net /* "Feci quod potui, faciant meliora potentes." */ --1qxfSNjTV2dR3F6SEj9AOu21mTm4AJbBz-- --Cvn72oMy3T8AWYB9UCqjAb4RNFCpJcizO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsB5BAABCAAjFiEEPbz+l3tnoK718ci3h/fmw7c/bD0FAmDjRNsFAwAAAAAACgkQh/fmw7c/bD3B kAf8CJwH0HLFHyfgV0aXHUGvGufriWUHM+LnljjOIzE5CiNKfYU1LhsuCETFpAWBZHagKm0WTkrm oypdwKiFh/XJnIiwgDLjqL5PAaw4P97NnTcQwz7Ns3l4A7/A97idpXvX2NLvkSCp/FSNELr5j2jw MqoQ99tALv8p3+E7NBUyuSvwjoqLxdSGtQ2mo/hl5rORzhIOwXY1j6oOlxbi1cQv5ZaLQFa+DWLK 0smAfsJArboydFtdGZw2kHXCO3RPhbhRMmm8IO88z0MHPiNWs3iAe+uVTQbQHLmxSeTE0V9M140f IuO1ALsS440r3QAKvyrPep0UmjroBF21a7Z7DmhqNw== =6eB9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Cvn72oMy3T8AWYB9UCqjAb4RNFCpJcizO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 7 19:34:05 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFAA65AF6B for ; 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.181.21:from]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2021 19:34:05 -0000 I am running a master/slave bind 9.16.18 config on FreeBSD 11-Stable. This also implements split horizon for internal and external hosts. Periodically, the slave just stops properly resolving hosts properly, so I turned on debugging and could use some help understanding messages I am seeing. Could some kind soul explain the significance of the following (75.145.138.75 is the public IP of the DNS slave instance): 07-Jul-2021 14:28:01.666 security: debug 3: client @0x8045f9160 75.145.138.75#57747 (www.belkin.com): view internal: reset client 07-Jul-2021 14:19:01.556 security: debug 3: client @0x8045f9160 75.145.138.75#25797 (www.belkin.com): view internal: request failed: duplicate query From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 8 02:44:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C03066106B for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 02:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [208.111.40.118]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GL0wv3vyxz4s0S for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 02:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (65-100-43-2.dia.static.qwest.net [65.100.43.2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "chombo.houseloki.net", Issuer "brtsvcs.net CA" (verified OK)) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92BFC38D62; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 02:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:f0a0:592d:acec:3c47] (unknown [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:f0a0:592d:acec:3c47]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 315313314; Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Specifying IPv6 off-link for a subnet To: freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com References: From: Mel Pilgrim Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <5ea688b3-79b9-8a28-0430-5a4651207ae0@bluerosetech.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:43:48 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GL0wv3vyxz4s0S X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com designates 208.111.40.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[208.111.40.118:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bluerosetech.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[208.111.40.118:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:208.111.40.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 02:44:00 -0000 On 2021-07-05 8:45, Scott wrote: > I have manually configured IPv6 on the interfaces: > ifconfig_vmx0_ipv6="inet6 xx::yy prefer_source accept_rtadv -autoconf no_radr" > > The prefix appears in the prefix list as: > # ndp -p > xx::/64 if=vmx0 > flags=LO vltime=infinity, pltime=infinity, expire=Never, ref=1 > No advertising router > > Here's the received RA: > 01:26:48.355186 IP6 (class 0xe0, hlim 255, next-header ICMPv6 (58) payload length: 64) fe80::1 > ff02::1: [icmp6 sum ok] ICMP6, router advertisement, length 64 > hop limit 64, Flags [none], pref high, router lifetime 1800s, reachable time 0ms, retrans timer 0ms > source link-address option (1), length 8 (1): 00:00:5e:00:02:02 > mtu option (5), length 8 (1): 9000 > prefix info option (3), length 32 (4): xx::/64, Flags [none], valid > time 3600s, pref. time 60s > > Note that there is no L flag set, so the prefix is off-link. You're misinterpreting what the L flag in a PIO means. If set, the L flag indicates the prefix can be used for on-link determination. But if the L bit is unset, the PIO isn't making any assertion about the prefix being on-link or off-link. More importantly, a host must not use a PIO with L=0 to conclude a prefix is off-link. IOW, it is correct for a host to do nothing when it receives an RA PIO with no flags for an already-configured prefix. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 9 20:02:41 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994C4665BF9 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2021 20:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.raver@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x333.google.com (mail-ot1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GM3ww6GVXz3F7L for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2021 20:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.raver@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-x333.google.com with SMTP id w8-20020a0568304108b02904b3da3d49e5so6649521ott.1 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2021 13:02:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iRcpmdNP5gUpp7PXOWO5zdDSUvDyljYoL13Qo/S0/pM=; b=YufKl5imPUJy9INi9F5E4NaCLUu7bMDkS2BvpCB8neAS/ifQ9CBUbQHmdoSXv0RLc5 abaFbL8NchZRVzQgUebdy74JUP4CyNW43G0W6QIHVTCvt+MX/nbVjTYfDK5ckgTiCGCQ VVXJ6T7ge+Egh/h1HquKWBqIDg0s2d7BqM3XwG5RU6x4EDq2dt6LoV5vbipZ6J/2lZTH XRpsL+ksQaXHpKaoiVLsoCRB6jsZ/JXHvg/NYJkydwVbCS2/IxhZDIG6w3KsgnG37UhF biRP8ZIm/KxHAdPzn7hLriKMNdRLKiEJs3na/qt+OwoCWXa0OyL+D7vPHGRPnGlSlwS3 7HeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iRcpmdNP5gUpp7PXOWO5zdDSUvDyljYoL13Qo/S0/pM=; b=jFIU6TDFj3Nvp1V7RRuBWzegel0RnI1BLUvtttCjYt+KhPquJ8vHOwMJJbwCsJbl07 noRwmG6FdmtDc3mnzyhQ4wmkqGneUHf9aPC7VeqoGg8uPN8hv/MyrxDIQCStnwXlCJqa 4n1TTSUGBfWRiUerKMIv0Ns8boyZvXJ1Z1nA3mw1+MYa1yNENP8v6YLv+062tBf4NTDd Jp0XCAcuYs5Oa9Or2ZcDkdSJBELaaVAD4ntlwEFuDxoJFCEg+Bktxia8SsPXsc+pGyKN j739WtJzqSuL25yuP7js7r/YKf6oNSj5dTMJPSKCrcQJkmXj5QgHtXpXLL5OLqxyxUtY /bmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5309t1V8G6JNh4fcE2U3fI5E20UpqDa2CGoGb7o+99Hre4ybr5mz 4LzWqCFP7iUkrmLKZC96DNEQKW3oVHGWm2Bs2hD7+BJGPss= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzMs5lbC74TjkCEEZYcQqPX+CN6I5/MVUccIb6Qqls0EpIYFh5QlfPGV702PcXq+JuH5rtVE1oQTmATiDSRzVs= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4911:: with SMTP id e17mr30421947otf.38.1625860959847; Fri, 09 Jul 2021 13:02:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Raver Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 22:02:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Goodbye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GM3ww6GVXz3F7L X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=YufKl5im; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davidraver@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::333 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davidraver@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::333:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::333:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::333:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 17:58:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2021 20:02:41 -0000 To Whom It May Concern: This is not merely a question, it's mostly a complaint. Let me explain. Some time ago I started a (c++) project which I wanted to make as general (in an OS sense) as possible. Meaning: the same source (with as little of ifdefs as possible) should compile, link and run on as many operating systems as possible. So... out of the BSD family I chose FreeBSD as I'd read/heard that it had been... well... the best. I installed it into a VirtualBox. Can't remember how, but it was what a developer needed: a graphical environment, everything easily accessible. As it should be. Then the project was put aside for quite some time until a couple of months ago when it's extensive generalization was brought to a stage when it worked on Linux, MacOS and Windows, it's primary systems. So, I fired a VirtualBox up again meaning to try to build it on FreeBSD. Sadly it didn't work. Not that it didn't compile. It did. The linker failed, though. Researching why, I came to a conclusion that it's version didn't support what I'd needed. OK, I said, an upgrade should fix that. Not being small-time I decided to not only upgrade the c++ (g++) development platform, but rather the whole operating system. I looked up (on Google) how to do it and... I did it. I mean I started the upgrade. Pay attention now because here it's where it all starts: the upgrade failed in such a way that not only the c++ development platform was unusable, but the OS refused to boot. All I'd seen had been a black screen. Steam started to blow out of my ears, but I still kept it together. OK, I said, maybe the upgrade wasn't a good decision anyway. Let's start from scratch and install the latest version (13) which will automatically solve all of the problems. Fired up a VirtualBox, created a new machine using the downloaded ( https://www.freebsd.org/where/) file. Booted up with the option 1 (multiple users, as it should be the usual case, right?). Instead of the expected GUI and some dialogs creating the user account I was met with the console demanding username and password from me. What?!? The first thing that went through my mind was that if this had been the case with a certain Microsoft's operating system, it surely wouldn't have had the market share it has today. After a little research (man, I love the small print!) on your page I came up with the account data and logged in. OK, I said, this isn't going to do. I need a GUI and some developer tools. Let's install that. But, the OS said, you can't do that unless you're a superuser. No problem. Tried sudo as I'm used to from Linux. Nope. Tried su. It said: "Sorry". What?!? Google helped again: in order to do that one must choose option 2 while booting. Fsck!?! Obviously one must have a BSD degree to use a computer. OK, after a restart (and successful su) I googled about installing a GUI (KDE to be exact). Being unpleasantly surprised that, instead of a oneliner, one has to buy a new keyboard with an extended life expectancy in order to type an equivalent of Tolstoy's War and Peace. Man, how hard is it to put something in a shell script?!? Before embarking on such an enterprise, I read some more small print and found out that, before that, one has to install X (probably demanding another fresh keyboard). And before that one has to install something else still. Can't remember what because I shut the OS down and hit a couple of dels removing everything even remotely related to FreeBSD from my computer. So, before yous geniuses decide to make an OS even remotely usable so that an average developer doesn't need to have a doctorate of General BSDvity Theory in order to use it, it's Goodby from me Argentina. D. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 10 19:05:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1913D659BBC for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 19:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-wr1-x433.google.com (mail-wr1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GMfcT35bzz4jZs for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 19:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-wr1-x433.google.com with SMTP id t5so3622475wrw.12 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:05:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kmO5sYJ9wWz1KXqyDKh5WJICdg25zDdUEE+yMYcTPIU=; b=hZmeI4Zcvc2/m91OFvmxquiW/40P5Nwc+ggR5/wrxBD+GB+arFbl+J6lWtwnF3RAcZ H3oR7ApeoIqAWXnyJE2SoeR+8iDpLFdF890Nr1qbz2aug0wgVJB0rY0YTvUQitM1YkhP zL9OespUNRyNLgKKN81o3DbbvN+5xDd6SHVXD0RcpnlVujhQ7g7t6RK5l3fgGJe/yOeB /574faEyxFcXyXwi0ZWMeC+n+g/IBs7+3aJ2v0GD4bEFapRhzY9oidCZTiGOWjaKdVCI b9oU+oICHiofc1nmOXgfDD4Qq+eNdBdBOmcSWZ5i0S1qzOIbJGk3KSMMFSS4kTEpk40V he3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kmO5sYJ9wWz1KXqyDKh5WJICdg25zDdUEE+yMYcTPIU=; b=ER0v6lAhkQXDJmh5WtCg+HQuZbpTC/lxGoZsW+LLZttamRlq+OS/hLJ4g/aVwJhfMk 3F1Bii4EmuCuAz1HwP6lbD0TzUiPolnyX42s5ZjM/K1ls98FXQvnQzCq8UKiUdMU/D+e qWCSw/DR3kyKfDKYLaXcqxkgSaPDN9DWV8nhnCbynaGwZ2jwZZpkvImkLsRxHL2HjE8f gDzSP6I3B31sJTtVKbmj8S56mvnnplkFHMcDQHJJEJTsNV+RMc/a4cA33ytUr6ZHJmIQ dfTDEgtWEERUsAmPl7xfNi28LeglGhvkOOIEDezlpP3cAz8PQomjEe6yNxgTbfke7YX0 FV8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5334uMydH5DTFsTxErXl9t06PlzjD1+rFSaEDAg5ow3jydcK3O8g mYYnsWLBj811bs6NOD3YQuZTmV0TriQ6eznV7zSXQGu/0jFp+FhK X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyxrXR6w/swWRI3K+rYj053ACv9Q7U0n2dvlupLD/hsg/PYkCzJkt0jOWWb91ISNeLbGNDf65CIYS5tWHqnsDo= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:528d:: with SMTP id c13mr49595376wrv.343.1625943927529; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:05:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 21:05:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Goodbye To: David Raver Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GMfcT35bzz4jZs X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=hZmeI4Zc; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::433) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.24 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.939]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::433:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::433:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::433:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 19:05:30 -0000 BSD are general purpose (server, desktop, embedded) system for advanced and aware users. Default installation won't do anything for you except default base installation, nor the OS won't do anything until you command it to do something. After FreeBSD install you only get standardized base OS that you can then customize and adapt. But when you do its rock solid. This is the strongest part of BSD. If you don't like that philosophy probably it may not be the best OS for you, or it's not the time yet. Sorry that you feel disappointed. It requires some skills, knowledge, and persistence to learn new things. Probably the error was on your side (it always is in my case I shamefully admit). I have several workstations upgraded from 9.0 release upwards with no problem for many many years. I write this email from a machine that started at FreeBSD 10 and went up through all minor releases up to 13.0. But it is you who is responsible for OS management, understanding how things work, so they work as you want. FreeBSD is "raw" OS, some people love it for that, some people prefer Linux with easy "click and do it for me" approach, some people work with Open-Source on Windows. Linux can do something for you but then it's not always what you want and things will break for sure after several updates. See kernal api changes with every minor release. See UX/UI changes enforced on most popular distros (i.e. Ubuntu). Also beware of kernel/libc/glibc impact on all system components, or even worse quick-and-dirty-bleeding-edge-hacks that only works in one particular case on particular version of Linux. Not to mention Windows or MacOS because they are closed source so you cannot customize the OS itself. BSD is the best environment to test software quality, so the idea to test software portability on *BSD in the first place (there are various flavors like OpenBSD, NetBSD, and FreeBSD derivatives like MidnightBSD, DragonFlyBSD, etc) is the best idea you can have. Good approach. I also work like this not only with various computer software components but also embedded toolchains for firmware development on various CPU/MCU architectures (i.e. Zephyr RTOS, ARM MBED, FreeRTOS, Arduino, etc). In software world things break occasionally. Show me a commercial OS that has no problems. Maybe you need more time to understand how things work here? :-) If you simply want to test compilation on FreeBSD based OS that has already the Xorg in default install and provides live media that "just boots what you need" try MidnightBSD :-) https://www.midnightbsd.org/ I hope that you will eventually come back to FreeBSD (or its derivative) one day.. and then you will know why :-) Take care! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 10 19:38:41 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B030465A5E7 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 19:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GMgLm3mRBz4n28 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 19:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:37804] helo=[192.168.1.143]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id A3/3C-17915-E37F9E06; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:38:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Goodbye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: <754716b0-f93e-1bb6-105e-5b55a23c2688@wavecable.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:38:35 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Vade-Verdict: clean X-Vade-Analysis-1: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrtdekgddufeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhho X-Vade-Analysis-2: fhhilhgvmecuufgjpfetvefqtfdpgffogffttefnffdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtuden X-Vade-Analysis-3: ucenucfjughrpefuvfhfhffkffgfgggjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpedfvfhhohhmrghs X-Vade-Analysis-4: ucffrdcuffgvrghnfdcuoehtohhmuggvrghnseifrghvvggtrggslhgvrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrght X-Vade-Analysis-5: thgvrhhnpeelhfdtgefgleelgffgieelieejfeeiveekuddvvdevleevteegffekteefveefieenucff X-Vade-Analysis-6: ohhmrghinhepkhgvrhhnvghlrdhorhhgnecukfhppedvgedruddufedrudegfedrudelvdenucevlhhu X-Vade-Analysis-7: shhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedvgedruddufedrudegfedrudelvddphhgv X-Vade-Analysis-8: lhhopegludelvddrudeikedruddrudegfegnpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepthhomhguvggrnhesfigrvhgv X-Vade-Analysis-9: tggrsghlvgdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopehfrhgvvggsshguqdhquhgvshhtihhonhhssehfrhgvvggs X-Vade-Analysis-10: shgurdhorhhgpdhhohhsthepshhmthhprdgvmhgvrhgrlhgurdgtmhhhrdhshihnrggtohhrrdgtohhm X-Vade-Analysis-11: pdhsphhfpehsohhfthhfrghilhdpughkihhmpedpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddptehuthhhqdgfshgv X-Vade-Analysis-12: rhepthhomhguvggrnh X-Vade-Client: EMERALD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GMgLm3mRBz4n28 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.02 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[208.47.184.7:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[24.113.143.192:received]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[208.47.184.7:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.968]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.95)[0.952]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[208.47.184.7:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[208.47.184.7:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 19:38:41 -0000 On 7/10/21 12:05 PM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > BSD are general purpose (server, desktop, embedded) system for > advanced and aware users. Default installation won't do anything for > you except default base installation, nor the OS won't do anything > until you command it to do something. After FreeBSD install you only > get standardized base OS that you can then customize and adapt. But > when you do its rock solid. This is the strongest part of BSD. If you > don't like that philosophy probably it may not be the best OS for you, > or it's not the time yet. Sorry that you feel disappointed. It > requires some skills, knowledge, and persistence to learn new things. > Probably the error was on your side (it always is in my case I > shamefully admit). I have several workstations upgraded from 9.0 > release upwards with no problem for many many years. I write this > email from a machine that started at FreeBSD 10 and went up through > all minor releases up to 13.0. But it is you who is responsible for OS > management, understanding how things work, so they work as you want. > FreeBSD is "raw" OS, some people love it for that, some people prefer > Linux with easy "click and do it for me" approach, some people work > with Open-Source on Windows. I used FreeBSD from 0 up to 10. Then, moved to Linux for an application that was too difficult to port. Now, I have a problem with Linux. I can not stop it from accessing the net for various and sundry reasons. Sending things to kernel.org. Downloading updates. Checking and reporting to me the status of updates, etc. I have several hours in this. Maybe I should have put more effort into the port... So, I am back to FreeBSD 13. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 10 20:56:55 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3106365BE07 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 20:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com (mail-wm1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GMj5238D1z3CSb for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 20:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id i2-20020a05600c3542b02902058529ea07so8534984wmq.3 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:56:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ggCLdDcjycAzjo4mbIbWUmULi4P9qiiaXBk3nxPywjM=; b=cOFpW+PDjBNQJDeMTDzo8tt44JJBTjAGbBZ413BhwiL4LMunw+dq9kLYTlKKV0DKvF 0d4Ts7VIgnH9kHUc+BrUss13MP0tM8SpmkBoh3lKPING4Xl8eV068COofMw5vYht/7tK +9NyNrzwA/nlkz78CCTFVlS+gXw83hfA5czRI+Pl9rtlsQlhHMuXl0Snl6CbawauTUpi oRp2QatmGNt9fz75T+SkRLsYLwMzrxG5Yf2tTtJUQjyVrSKa4XMe2/luuLdEyS3+1Oi2 hHUlMExE+EnyqUveIf+xVsGW4/hvch8MNR0I1bmvWbu2xzZf3ZZjIXTzgbrzLOtWAUmg X0LQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ggCLdDcjycAzjo4mbIbWUmULi4P9qiiaXBk3nxPywjM=; b=gOi+teWvAC8QTZ+ZaDvigNvhU0xMm0w3q8/ykm4hAtTRYHG2oz25+3dn/L6YfQsgfu TLcC5L0RhpxAoixGBLV0Lq+SKrLoUWpVxB4hhCu1lseuYUcMGjhZi2zPCYmI2tSERQpm exFqLqprRCwkw77PucHVi2zhd21Qcd5UPndQhMkV2kSDw6hAt/0YV8xmy+IBsgsrHVIq YuUdYZkq6bGGLPRYQOh/DMeyO3xZsCit2xZwg8B7i7nkT6xrs9/w7Kdi96Fmmn6nqOcf GFQ9wtIU2P9moXkQnkLyxfEY9E61WhScfFlc/HYmWSrioySzGVl/gDKsVSlirVKVn9A2 PTBA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530+GOGpgJIm3I3lVbR+igg/vFE4V3skuP/Psb6g2WcbllsfwkXG bNuE04dWpKugHuwEkiujtP9jA1UtHBjMAxqGXG+5jvRW0tWyWw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx7bg2tc7b6iQKZ2TA7Zumi4arCyvOQ8p1TI9jlC8A+u3lgCVjVvVFuyHH/AdtbxNx04OWmqQNYh7E3JTW9MYQ= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c5c8:: with SMTP id n8mr6092986wmk.124.1625950612768; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:56:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <754716b0-f93e-1bb6-105e-5b55a23c2688@wavecable.com> In-Reply-To: <754716b0-f93e-1bb6-105e-5b55a23c2688@wavecable.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 22:56:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Goodbye To: "Thomas D. Dean" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GMj5238D1z3CSb X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=cOFpW+PD; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::32d) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.83)[-0.833]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 20:56:55 -0000 On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 9:39 PM Thomas D. Dean wrote: > I used FreeBSD from 0 up to 10. Then, moved to Linux for an application > that was too difficult to port. > > Now, I have a problem with Linux. I can not stop it from accessing the > net for various and sundry reasons. Sending things to kernel.org. > Downloading updates. Checking and reporting to me the status of > updates, etc. I have several hours in this. Maybe I should have put > more effort into the port... > > So, I am back to FreeBSD 13. Awsome! In the long term, especially maintenance and self-compatibility, it is worth to do the homework with FreeBSD and stay independent of other people crazy ideas :-) :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 10 21:38:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2300065C118 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 21:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GMk1G3d8Mz3JDf for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 21:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1m2KTQ-000LOR-Us; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:25:20 -0600 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:25:20 -0600 From: The Doctor To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: "Thomas D. Dean" , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Goodbye Message-ID: References: <754716b0-f93e-1bb6-105e-5b55a23c2688@wavecable.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GMk1G3d8Mz3JDf X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[204.209.81.1:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+a:c]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.70)[0.702]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[204.209.81.1:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.978]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[nl2k.ab.ca,quarantine]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RBL_VIRUSFREE_BOTNET(2.00)[204.209.81.1:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6171, ipnet:204.209.81.0/24, country:CA]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 21:38:43 -0000 On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 10:56:32PM +0200, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 9:39 PM Thomas D. Dean wrote: > > I used FreeBSD from 0 up to 10. Then, moved to Linux for an application > > that was too difficult to port. > > > > Now, I have a problem with Linux. I can not stop it from accessing the > > net for various and sundry reasons. Sending things to kernel.org. > > Downloading updates. Checking and reporting to me the status of > > updates, etc. I have several hours in this. Maybe I should have put > > more effort into the port... > > > > So, I am back to FreeBSD 13. > > Awsome! In the long term, especially maintenance and > self-compatibility, it is worth to do the homework with FreeBSD and > stay independent of other people crazy ideas :-) :-) > I rather BSD than Lin$ucks any day! > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Evil isn't good because someone else does it. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com