From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 12 00:15:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C28167A334 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 00:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com (mail-oi1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H6VVn25wvz4qwG for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 00:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-oi1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id v2so8780857oie.6 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 17:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ahGmUSKwpfL565jhUsOFjz6q05FYrlB/URCgHhniJyk=; b=HY+EEoOLVFTB03ub3ahD3UOgvZHx4Zf6okNLjK/PR1i/nWsIfUWySVyR7OUEkwG2C/ DaMPeeIZevkgpNd4i1xWkZupfLG5huSkjopDZ0Hj/CZll78aLIakXwtxL70O9xRHe907 C24U6608bgRyRTsEMqI5FDagg5iIdb6Xfaw0I8N75KMj4b48yHdf642Xzzd2H3RjRZEZ dqjoXP4VoNf6e28+2mUjI1QmZADF0FlBwo2gwW/EEenmFFOg+yBvYa8k5IJcbzbyJGhP jiFoAD2yhDj9FpWeF+UxJh3AzC0K7tJhakRguJtsc9yS1BnsqIg+Wlcp0zOyLbFKC5QH /DhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ahGmUSKwpfL565jhUsOFjz6q05FYrlB/URCgHhniJyk=; b=ve6cJH65cjfUgfiZTOISFFJh9tCxQgVmd/DzGrVRr5X4bZAvxHc3O3HanNhv0aUJYN ZVUr9pxKI89Fxw8n2jWgq0WxgvQkz+e7vNSxbKXlEcA0pAp3FwN+a5p+6SHpRJKbUwK/ XAgLLsKTZgNES7PZA+ljlWaxROZHjs4mHRR8hc3NxWUqyt92eto3UdQfNEHqzWLBo7WC BIXEyuy8KomDcfwudMpRqFByf+oYXjcCOvZ6iMUFyYvaWo+oP2XIb8Ey/s/pVKZLqSnA kV/bMeDomtgiScAc294HvQqz3/fjBhCcknJwPTc1oEMAzwivGkcmFK0eTD7bxxKmNfG9 7N7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532rjfmGnZWakUeFS5Q93U8ftm528+lIOlpylv7ov0lgo4A9Ryda +ZUV/TyFF8C5iapOULV4f+1q83/iWLdOnRCBkIbgew== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxVWq4+d27XBnJzZgnddz+zpDPge/WShr/yr3uE/yDasotW0SBDQFCsIwYfMgSpP8o2/qugXIIbvg2dEyQO9Qs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:199b:: with SMTP id bj27mr3065484oib.129.1631405712251; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 17:15:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 02:14:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: boot/shutdown times To: Brian Wood Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H6VVn25wvz4qwG X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=HY+EEoOL; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.32 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.96)[0.959]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 00:15:14 -0000 On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 1:35 AM Brian Wood wrote: > I haven't measured, but it seems like boot and shutdown times > have improved over the years, but that they are still a lot slower > than Linux. Is there more that can be done to improve these > times? Thanks. My FreeBSD box boots/shutdowns quickly. I would say way faster than Linux (i.e. (L)Ubuntu or Kali). Since I started using ZFS root I never even had to fsck. I noticed that replacing HDD with SSD brings dramatic speed up to the whole system even on older machines. M2 SSD are even faster (assuming hardware has support for it). I can also see a dramatic difference in boot/shutdown/work speed of Lubuntu Linux when working on a machine using SSD (very fast), HDD (standard), SD card (slow), and USB3.0 Pendrive (extremely slow like 20x slower than HDD). This also depends on kernel version and built in configuration. Linux uses initramfs. That may be the source of speed up? Maybe with FreeBSD you could put its boot and/or base into ramfs I wonder how would that speed things up? :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 12 03:57:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B0F67C9B4 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 03:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:f740:c::4ae]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H6bRF140Fz4mGG for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 03:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (65-100-43-2.dia.static.qwest.net [65.100.43.2]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4890F38D89 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 03:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:a1dc:e01c:4fe7:bdd9] (unknown [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:a1dc:e01c:4fe7:bdd9]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58D39FDED for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 20:57:19 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mel Pilgrim Subject: Is there a list of git.freebsd.org mirrors? Message-ID: <2c011cd7-34e3-b8fd-9a9c-3c42bc08b2e0@bluerosetech.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 20:57:18 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H6bRF140Fz4mGG X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com designates 2607:f740:c::4ae as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bluerosetech.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:2607:f740:c::/48, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 03:57:30 -0000 Is there a list of mirror servers for the git repos? No, I don't mean github. I tried to clone ports, but the geolocation system is routing me to a slow/overloaded server. I can't find anything in the Handbook that list mirrors for git.freebsd.org like it does for ftp.freebsd.org. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 12 04:41:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D46A67D757 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 04:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H6cQ12sRNz3Cqd for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 04:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=X7vMIjvw6IY5Y9KfS5x/GJQjOsZ4m63rqTl47pKQxic=; b=PUJgcA9vBzBvvGEE11VL4fYptg GIydU2Giy2znERiyIXMh5VqjE3Lqv/cEsPnaYg6v+W10TGOrwxQkZA6NKJDniL/PrpdpFnCcv7HRx cBI89gXd4CSVTgK5+wsWTIj0g4LK3Bz7DWywWDdvf4gKlI8caAnAghCtTPpHVfo9xLbJHLkNuSegi Qf+IMClDsKJOORZ9G/VZcSPv98byWmWDZf55wwyg3fosqNE7PLYgueSuENWtTDfqgoTaymREsvWG1 iEfzsSBte0wqxj5XQE/gAcnCew+GDnokta2CwwnE5me0Li0IYCeLmWriACrxBP/zb3c6ThY5XIqqI 20LPYVPQ==; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=Marks-MacBook-Pro.local) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id QZB10V-0011I2-G8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:41:19 +0200 Subject: Re: boot/shutdown times To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Mark Tinka Message-ID: <45aa7fb7-4235-5483-cbd4-059132bc730c@tinka.africa> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:41:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H6cQ12sRNz3Cqd X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=PUJgcA9v; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.15 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.15)[-0.147]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 04:41:30 -0000 On 9/12/21 02:14, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > My FreeBSD box boots/shutdowns quickly. I would say way faster than > Linux (i.e. (L)Ubuntu or Kali). Since I started using ZFS root I never > even had to fsck. > > I noticed that replacing HDD with SSD brings dramatic speed up to the > whole system even on older machines. M2 SSD are even faster (assuming > hardware has support for it). > > I can also see a dramatic difference in boot/shutdown/work speed of > Lubuntu Linux when working on a machine using SSD (very fast), HDD > (standard), SD card (slow), and USB3.0 Pendrive (extremely slow like > 20x slower than HDD). This also depends on kernel version and built in > configuration. > > Linux uses initramfs. That may be the source of speed up? Maybe with > FreeBSD you could put its boot and/or base into ramfs I wonder how > would that speed things up? :-) I've found that the fastest way to improve boot-up times is running FreeBSD on a VM. I don't care so much about shutdown times, even though those are pretty respectable. Mark. 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[2001:470:1f1c:a0::2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w9sm3567419wmc.19.2021.09.12.02.20.23 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Sep 2021 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: rc_parallel_start (was: boot/shutdown times) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:20:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H6kbz2GlGz3kMm X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=YC9ltxGd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42b:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 09:20:32 -0000 On 12/09/2021 00:34, Brian Wood wrote: > … to improve these times? … >> … rc_parallel_start was reverted to undergo further refinement. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 12 13:02:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEC3665B8E for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 13:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from mailout.qeng-ho.org (mailout.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.244]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H6qXd3LGqz4ZCG for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 13:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:64c9:1::2]) by mailout.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667F899E99; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 14:02:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: boot/shutdown times From: Arthur Chance To: Brian Wood , FreeBSD-Questions References: Message-ID: <0b6bde6f-a27b-134c-8671-f8e5784319ea@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 14:02:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H6qXd3LGqz4ZCG X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.244 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 13:02:58 -0000 On 12/09/2021 14:00, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 12/09/2021 00:34, Brian Wood wrote: >> I haven't measured, but it seems like boot and shutdown times >> have improved over the years, but that they are still a lot slower >> than Linux. Is there more that can be done to improve these >> times? Thanks. > > I don't know about shutdown times, but Colin Percival has been doing a > lot of work on boot times lately. Take a look at his recent Twitter feed > (@cperciva), including entries like this > > https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1435719945912868864 > > and this > > https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1436452578536013828 > [Forgot to copy reply to questions@] and also https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1434743398489935875 https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1435417195505278977 -- Nothing teaches one not to try to stamp out burning thermite quite like real-life experience. — James Davis Nicoll From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 12 15:16:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DBE667BDA for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 15:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-oi1-x234.google.com (mail-oi1-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::234]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H6tW60DHXz592s for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 15:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-oi1-x234.google.com with SMTP id y128so10677473oie.4 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 08:16:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Es5M02sFqzqwtcEZTzVbhNiGlhR8nlLg/iGwoIjA7xw=; b=fY8leMCzSWWNn4vqTyf7edt6MWy73FJqbED64CJ9XcUjSe6MA4/tpXTRt8/hulXY9K j4LhLw/AxfP8SdB+iYmzw0k7Xpsn9mKq6iYvmGp/mU3P4ZdD51/AsJJSsi0L5jAZzUBo DiQKV6oejZcwONrL/TAlbQrbr5B74QyuLR/C5qWnHcmkiTUz5t3N31JrTm8QYW3z+GDP N6bpOhfn7RXtT4XFe8h3hetYQou7OFSi+zcbsN+wLzbVJg9ylnshXlXD48iMaz3WntDx BWgrE6vX7wXAMc/6sY8TdEsgRSVEQ42txkKwN1E/63BeVlBn09xuKowBfUxa/dUXUOAB 0Vew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Es5M02sFqzqwtcEZTzVbhNiGlhR8nlLg/iGwoIjA7xw=; b=Klt6dbnrWGP+9kcfRbtOENXXhiFxaFIDr3qcEGFqq7CR6px7a/F1TauApmxVfeY+0k lbHmCevxxvFrTzTscoGMpcecH26L4Zeb1xg82kFioKQXKGEvtJ7oINel5r5lnJELTNAD l9Fj61xZ8m1gefaHahb8EdMZGg1WnucI5JKCuCVbHfgmRg0W78V6mlUD+y/hCVtpDJx1 prMymCTkFTzQaelwH3FlSUPPyqN+4h1wgJr+4oBX50PRuwjTVmuu4hT3W/J2JbKGNR99 JRPgkbgWMZ8KIld3LWnC0tjDc4FaLIYFoQ9fphHdJEjyctB5wIZSoPSa+iKWzANrMG+R R6xA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531DIq7DEATgzQ7n0wUd09k5jQIfPAXDzZD7tuG9K9+r9sJC+Ngj OZ6WZ+w33GvzIN9MM7JH+IKmdyeEoY8Yw2UjOufgOW1q4Lg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzb9+HJBE5UsTFGoEliOjbBpe8FsVJY8SPzMjSqedAP4IKKDSrQzeZQQIVYcNUPMOvSH/KMHQPs+vw+j0AiXeE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:199b:: with SMTP id bj27mr4725581oib.129.1631459809437; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 08:16:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0b6bde6f-a27b-134c-8671-f8e5784319ea@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <0b6bde6f-a27b-134c-8671-f8e5784319ea@qeng-ho.org> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 17:16:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: boot/shutdown times To: Arthur Chance Cc: Brian Wood , FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H6tW60DHXz592s X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=fY8leMCz; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::234) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.25 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.945]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::234:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 15:16:51 -0000 On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 3:03 PM Arthur Chance wrote: > > I don't know about shutdown times, but Colin Percival has been doing a > > lot of work on boot times lately. Take a look at his recent Twitter feed > > (@cperciva), including entries like this Amazing reference and work thanks Arthur :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 12 17:19:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA01D66A3AC for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 17:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x32c.google.com (mail-wm1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H6xF50LSlz4TCw for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 17:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id u15-20020a05600c19cf00b002f6445b8f55so4982695wmq.0 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=PbW8i6qEOLhVOfeFCsSBs/CIVbptZP6qck6/g1DaDfw=; b=Z6XnDj6cKzGFiZ0CQHf9q7c761mvN9OfbtTgKaG1oSV4i5CfzOna/lyMcPEHBZhwoj 481j0yKMQwCkAO0NQ8TJTSeY4nutvIvPjkpWITsKJcpuXymYXWqYV1NQ4AvBkdNqjpVz OFdSZZx6TLfSYfmEWoIM3NNGqOa2hB6MG7CYCTtBUMfIZ+t7fGg/wTixxGPrPye/eknB jMDaKp+cNomfWxJqIdwuhIIZeufEMQsviSZ0f9BO4yNVgLC4RYCfMlyW9ERoPPwUcTZF qX76NSUDITur4Wc0NPNrkMYDYFdep4GHZq8b6MlM/p20DWIJnkO0z4K7eqOuFvhWybUe Dmqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=PbW8i6qEOLhVOfeFCsSBs/CIVbptZP6qck6/g1DaDfw=; b=qq+AIJK5rW/hsKqQFE630JjqrwYbhE2cMc2Pa7zci8crX1npuNc9vpfrcYErS7FLvk G7t/IRKgPNYCnZwwlqRhwYa+nv+lGurAmHxnyRLXvehyaCIZXo0ggSiTJpTq4m3xLqOf YioCJtaCAL163TTjP2lncr7SujoArWO9+mRrA+UOUg0jt4J/WTOOUucaUBaNF4K8UacY /+cMuHd1AkSeVItqayCCMcm1/8Xckm3Zo7QkjS0oX1p1W8ML1dQMGWgsIcWJuevz9Q6r xZeDy0FVdRYj5Tx8r8nT7VRrfSS+QqKX27VckcuKgJpFaqRQRVL1cpwLHb2qiOhXblN3 kYjg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ZysJa3sXJLjxSZV8vNW6fLDZkXHwXzltgf1F6r5fYx9/pdFV/ h71Gnw/3XsWsmY5UI0spMOwZVJ06X21ZIA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzy0PW5DOOJGKYuLNS8uIr2dZitRZGRuLx9xA6tOgrtEQzU4QKE5hN9MQk8E6OPLK2fS7ji2g== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cb02:: with SMTP id u2mr7616236wmj.103.1631467185276; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:470:1f1c:a0::2? 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Rebooting... does not reboot Message-ID: <9cd05f9a-11f6-ecd9-c755-f79ac568f3ee@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 18:19:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H6xF50LSlz4TCw X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Z6XnDj6c; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::32c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.98 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.977]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32c:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 17:19:54 -0000 I might describe that as stable/13 (in the context of GhostBSD-21.09.08.iso, written to the USB flash drive from which I booted). GhostBSD aside: has anyone else encountered the failure to reboot after pressing any key? I have a vague sense that it's an old bug, although at a glance I can't find it in Bugzilla. 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Tue, 14 Sep 2021 12:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: zfs newbie To: DTD Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: From: Dan Langille Message-ID: <2b3bd0c8-204d-2f9b-2d63-cca853f5893c@langille.org> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 12:20:43 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/7.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H88rB0Sd3z3Cwc X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=langille.org header.s=fm2 header.b=W9ilrLAZ; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=hOxwJhfe; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=langille.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dan@langille.org designates 64.147.123.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dan@langille.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[langille.org:s=fm2,messagingengine.com:s=fm3]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[dan]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.123.21]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[langille.org:+,messagingengine.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[64.147.123.21:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.147.123.21:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:06:03 -0000 DTD wrote on 9/7/21 5:51 PM: > Following the default 12.2 zfs install I got one pool (zroot) and a > dataset for each of the traditional mount points. So zfs list shows: > > NAME                 USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT > zroot                279G  6.75T    88K  /zroot > zroot/ROOT          1.74G  6.75T    88K  none > zroot/ROOT/default  1.74G  6.75T  1.74G  / > zroot/tmp            176K  6.75T   176K  /tmp > zroot/usr            277G  6.75T    88K  /usr > zroot/usr/home       276G  6.75T   276G  /usr/home > zroot/usr/ports       88K  6.75T    88K  /usr/ports > zroot/usr/src        670M  6.75T   670M  /usr/src > zroot/var           47.5M  6.75T    88K  /var > zroot/var/audit       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/audit > zroot/var/crash       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/crash > zroot/var/log        820K  6.75T   820K  /var/log > zroot/var/mail      46.3M  6.75T  46.3M  /var/mail > zroot/var/tmp         88K  6.75T    88K  /var/tmp > > I had consultant configure another service for us. He set up the disk > array with one dataset. so zfs list on this system give: > > NAME    USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT > zroot  2.65G  13.2T  2.62G  legacy > > From a sysadmin view I rather like the multiple datasets. Are there > advantages to one over the other? I see no advantages to me in the single dataset. What do you see from zpool status? I'm wondering if this is not directly on hardware, such as a VM under VMware. 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Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:47:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille Message-Id: <74C54511-0F86-46D3-A358-8981C7E21AF6@langille.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: Re: zfs newbie Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:47:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" To: DTD References: <2b3bd0c8-204d-2f9b-2d63-cca853f5893c@langille.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8JQz4r3Cz4YxX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=langille.org header.s=fm2 header.b=ToH07W8k; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=eEe1Qusq; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=langille.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dan@langille.org designates 66.111.4.29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dan@langille.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.60 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.29]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[langille.org:+,messagingengine.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.0.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[66.111.4.29:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[langille.org:s=fm2,messagingengine.com:s=fm3]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[dan]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.111.4.29:from]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:48:12 -0000 =E2=80=94=20 Dan Langille http://langille .org/ > On Sep 14, 2021, at 6:42 PM, DTD wrote: >=20 > On Tue, 14 Sep 2021, Dan Langille wrote: >=20 >> DTD wrote on 9/7/21 5:51 PM: >>> Following the default 12.2 zfs install I got one pool (zroot) and a = dataset for each of the traditional mount points. So zfs list shows: >>> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT >>> zroot 279G 6.75T 88K /zroot >>> zroot/ROOT 1.74G 6.75T 88K none >>> zroot/ROOT/default 1.74G 6.75T 1.74G / >>> zroot/tmp 176K 6.75T 176K /tmp >>> zroot/usr 277G 6.75T 88K /usr >>> zroot/usr/home 276G 6.75T 276G /usr/home >>> zroot/usr/ports 88K 6.75T 88K /usr/ports >>> zroot/usr/src 670M 6.75T 670M /usr/src >>> zroot/var 47.5M 6.75T 88K /var >>> zroot/var/audit 88K 6.75T 88K /var/audit >>> zroot/var/crash 88K 6.75T 88K /var/crash >>> zroot/var/log 820K 6.75T 820K /var/log >>> zroot/var/mail 46.3M 6.75T 46.3M /var/mail >>> zroot/var/tmp 88K 6.75T 88K /var/tmp >>> I had consultant configure another service for us. He set up the = disk array with one dataset. so zfs list on this system give: >>> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT >>> zroot 2.65G 13.2T 2.62G legacy >>> =46rom a sysadmin view I rather like the multiple datasets. Are = there advantages to one over the other? >>=20 >> I see no advantages to me in the single dataset. >>=20 >> What do you see from zpool status? I'm wondering if this is not = directly on hardware, such as a VM under VMware. >>=20 > Nop, no VM. I have three system that I did a take all options zfs = install on. I do not remember which one I posted so here is a matching = set: >=20 >> freebsd-version > 12.1-RELEASE-p8 >=20 >> zfs list > NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > zroot 90.6G 801G 88K /zroot > zroot/ROOT 89.9G 801G 88K none > zroot/ROOT/default 89.9G 801G 89.9G / > zroot/tmp 156K 801G 156K /tmp > zroot/usr 723M 801G 88K /usr > zroot/usr/home 18.7M 801G 18.7M /usr/home > zroot/usr/ports 88K 801G 88K /usr/ports > zroot/usr/src 704M 801G 704M /usr/src > zroot/var 21.7M 801G 88K /var > zroot/var/audit 88K 801G 88K /var/audit > zroot/var/crash 88K 801G 88K /var/crash > zroot/var/log 21.3M 801G 21.3M /var/log > zroot/var/mail 88K 801G 88K /var/mail > zroot/var/tmp 88K 801G 88K /var/tmp >=20 >> zpool status > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > scan: none requested > config: >=20 > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada1p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 >=20 > errors: No known data errors So two drives and all in one filesystem. That's very odd. I have no idea why anyone would do that. You loose = more than a few feature doing it that way. Boot environments for one.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 14 22:50:19 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61506725F3 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from freeport.safeport.com (freeport.safeport.com [147.160.157.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4H8JTQ6xrdz4YwF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by freeport.safeport.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B6541515C0 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:44:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zfs newbie (fwd) Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8JTQ6xrdz4YwF X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com does not designate 147.160.157.114 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all:c]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF(3.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.964]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6405, ipnet:147.160.157.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Spam: Yes Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:19 -0000 crud -sent from wrong user again; there may be 2 of these ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: DTD To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zfs newbie On Tue, 14 Sep 2021, Dan Langille wrote: > DTD wrote on 9/7/21 5:51 PM: >> Following the default 12.2 zfs install I got one pool (zroot) and a dataset >> for each of the traditional mount points. So zfs list shows: >> >> NAME                 USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT >> zroot                279G  6.75T    88K  /zroot >> zroot/ROOT          1.74G  6.75T    88K  none >> zroot/ROOT/default  1.74G  6.75T  1.74G  / >> zroot/tmp            176K  6.75T   176K  /tmp >> zroot/usr            277G  6.75T    88K  /usr >> zroot/usr/home       276G  6.75T   276G  /usr/home >> zroot/usr/ports       88K  6.75T    88K  /usr/ports >> zroot/usr/src        670M  6.75T   670M  /usr/src >> zroot/var           47.5M  6.75T    88K  /var >> zroot/var/audit       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/audit >> zroot/var/crash       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/crash >> zroot/var/log        820K  6.75T   820K  /var/log >> zroot/var/mail      46.3M  6.75T  46.3M  /var/mail >> zroot/var/tmp         88K  6.75T    88K  /var/tmp >> >> I had consultant configure another service for us. He set up the disk array >> with one dataset. so zfs list on this system give: >> >> NAME    USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT >> zroot  2.65G  13.2T  2.62G  legacy >> >> From a sysadmin view I rather like the multiple datasets. Are there >> advantages to one over the other? > > I see no advantages to me in the single dataset. > > What do you see from zpool status? I'm wondering if this is not directly on > hardware, such as a VM under VMware. > Nop, no VM. I have three system that I did a take all options zfs install on. I do not remember which one I posted so here is a matching set: > freebsd-version 12.1-RELEASE-p8 > zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT zroot 90.6G 801G 88K /zroot zroot/ROOT 89.9G 801G 88K none zroot/ROOT/default 89.9G 801G 89.9G / zroot/tmp 156K 801G 156K /tmp zroot/usr 723M 801G 88K /usr zroot/usr/home 18.7M 801G 18.7M /usr/home zroot/usr/ports 88K 801G 88K /usr/ports zroot/usr/src 704M 801G 704M /usr/src zroot/var 21.7M 801G 88K /var zroot/var/audit 88K 801G 88K /var/audit zroot/var/crash 88K 801G 88K /var/crash zroot/var/log 21.3M 801G 21.3M /var/log zroot/var/mail 88K 801G 88K /var/mail zroot/var/tmp 88K 801G 88K /var/tmp > zpool status pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com support@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 14 23:48:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C01A673588 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [208.111.40.118]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H8Kmh2C0Zz4p97; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (65-100-43-2.dia.static.qwest.net [65.100.43.2]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A701938D84; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:34ed:5817:b480:556d] (unknown [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:34ed:5817:b480:556d]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2011E1B; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mel Pilgrim Subject: Clarification on MOVED entries when flavouring a port Message-ID: <48ff904a-aad1-6440-f319-ce3e38fcc250@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:48:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8Kmh2C0Zz4p97 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com designates 208.111.40.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:relay3.brtsvcs.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bluerosetech.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:208.111.40.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:37 -0000 I'm flavouring a port. The pkg name will change when upgrading from unflavoured to flavoured because the flavoured version will have a PKGNAMESUFFIX. Does this require a MOVED entry? The PKGNAMESUFFIX is based on default-versions so the "default" flavour is whatever the current default version is. If I need a MOVED entry, do I make the entry with the current default version? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 15 05:35:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAA96780FF for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 05:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (pppoe-static.82.209.221.201.telecom.mogilev.by [82.209.221.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4H8TTP1pPhz3L7p for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 05:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) From: "Outlook Accounts Team" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Security alert for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 15 Sep 2021 08:35:45 +0300 Message-ID: <20210915083544.E3D254CE5ADE559C@freebsd.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8TTP1pPhz3L7p X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6697, ipnet:82.209.192.0/18, country:BY] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 05:35:53 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 14 22:50:19 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B616F6728B5 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from freeport.safeport.com (freeport.safeport.com [147.160.157.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4H8JTQ6pDFz4YyX for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by freeport.safeport.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 525621514D7; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: DTD To: Dan Langille cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zfs newbie In-Reply-To: <2b3bd0c8-204d-2f9b-2d63-cca853f5893c@langille.org> Message-ID: References: <2b3bd0c8-204d-2f9b-2d63-cca853f5893c@langille.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8JTQ6pDFz4YyX X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of support@safeport.com does not designate 147.160.157.114 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=support@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all:c]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.74)[-0.741]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.60)[0.602]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF(3.50)[]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6405, ipnet:147.160.157.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 08:08:48 +0000 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:19 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2021, Dan Langille wrote: > DTD wrote on 9/7/21 5:51 PM: >> Following the default 12.2 zfs install I got one pool (zroot) and a dataset >> for each of the traditional mount points. So zfs list shows: >> >> NAME                 USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT >> zroot                279G  6.75T    88K  /zroot >> zroot/ROOT          1.74G  6.75T    88K  none >> zroot/ROOT/default  1.74G  6.75T  1.74G  / >> zroot/tmp            176K  6.75T   176K  /tmp >> zroot/usr            277G  6.75T    88K  /usr >> zroot/usr/home       276G  6.75T   276G  /usr/home >> zroot/usr/ports       88K  6.75T    88K  /usr/ports >> zroot/usr/src        670M  6.75T   670M  /usr/src >> zroot/var           47.5M  6.75T    88K  /var >> zroot/var/audit       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/audit >> zroot/var/crash       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/crash >> zroot/var/log        820K  6.75T   820K  /var/log >> zroot/var/mail      46.3M  6.75T  46.3M  /var/mail >> zroot/var/tmp         88K  6.75T    88K  /var/tmp >> >> I had consultant configure another service for us. He set up the disk array >> with one dataset. so zfs list on this system give: >> >> NAME    USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT >> zroot  2.65G  13.2T  2.62G  legacy >> >> From a sysadmin view I rather like the multiple datasets. Are there >> advantages to one over the other? > > I see no advantages to me in the single dataset. > > What do you see from zpool status? I'm wondering if this is not directly on > hardware, such as a VM under VMware. > Nop, no VM. I have three system that I did a take all options zfs install on. I do not remember which one I posted so here is a matching set: > freebsd-version 12.1-RELEASE-p8 > zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT zroot 90.6G 801G 88K /zroot zroot/ROOT 89.9G 801G 88K none zroot/ROOT/default 89.9G 801G 89.9G / zroot/tmp 156K 801G 156K /tmp zroot/usr 723M 801G 88K /usr zroot/usr/home 18.7M 801G 18.7M /usr/home zroot/usr/ports 88K 801G 88K /usr/ports zroot/usr/src 704M 801G 704M /usr/src zroot/var 21.7M 801G 88K /var zroot/var/audit 88K 801G 88K /var/audit zroot/var/crash 88K 801G 88K /var/crash zroot/var/log 21.3M 801G 21.3M /var/log zroot/var/mail 88K 801G 88K /var/mail zroot/var/tmp 88K 801G 88K /var/tmp > zpool status pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com support@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 15 12:23:55 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A08967DF71 for ; 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RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:23:55 -0000 Hi all, I am in need of migrating the data in an old SAN Box (hitachi) to a new SAN box ( EMC) . There are LVMs in the old SAN box around 6 TB capacity its AMC is getting over soon, So in need to migrate all the data in the old SAN to New SAN box. What steps do I need to perform in the new SAN box ( its a fresh box no volumes structures created as of now.) 1.What all are the steps on New SAN Box 2. What all are the step on Old SAN box need to perform to copy the data in LVMs ( and my Virtual machines are running live from the old SAN) . so that minimal down time and error free migratin need to assure. 3. As I am going to perform this first time, kindly share your experience so that I can perform it successfully. Kindly guide me Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 15 18:29:07 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A56C66BF00 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H8pdX6CyQz4gJk for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1631730534; bh=8xtTFQYyo2jyQhmXbmgDgjV5b1m0X/D1atlM9G6zRX0=; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Language: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DstgAk+GpDA2e+N6c6z2+NsMDhT+0hE2p6xC/5/l+tQ/ChChSdj8En3MaJuA7I4qq SpkGJxcPsn6R7Nz8BwUD+LQ2AtYJ7DAceKO+ieWiJOabHk2yuktKx8qNviN4F+DCae 1UCypooOFQBWV88qOAyjVTHJpEQYJxOu/2pya8R5CgQAM1YSEi9ZvXy4l67ZAf7nK5 mi/pb0xrQ2vPQjD1euaOw+jiKfDHDAQ6tOPza1toTtGjxoYrhi45SlJwo8GKu2uHmq /Ugrjs0Ubdo+XXLmo4PdQyuYUaQyJ++ewV52WivwHf7+mzjVW3pQAgxUEJHBA4bj5e dEAGWLMhgX4UAGW5Seq3qGNsbMxhcnqkE9ZvbFAOk3EP9Wxog8ftFR6OLjhwQxL6Mf 86IvKTVGbaJH5DUV4GmufnGWaK7gr5sISAQlS26EvLkv+iL2HZcAUor+TycGQBPz9H tk6blGovz4ze5p6DP2iN3yt+HTMrciix2xwpQN91/MXvarO2JWIxJo2vTOxnfeH5bs t8wYU/yEMRjuczObblbpCpndWpMvtGaeNjtR7SD3Iltpzf8XFVGCxijWNlCdqng40v HceJ57nAx1Tuvq706eDelK38+gytfb0cYUIkOdfzr1jemqbNP+d9UwEa7gq2sSGcTp xGEyzMlzoo8uathjYTcoXvrc= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:28:54 -0700 Subject: Re: zfs newbie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2b3bd0c8-204d-2f9b-2d63-cca853f5893c@langille.org> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:28:53 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8pdX6CyQz4gJk X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=DstgAk+G; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.07 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:november.he.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.93)[0.930]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:29:07 -0000 On 9/14/21 3:42 PM, DTD wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2021, Dan Langille wrote: >> What do you see from zpool status? I'm wondering if this is not >> directly on hardware, such as a VM under VMware. >> > Nop, no VM. I have three system that I did a take all options zfs > install on. I do not remember which one I posted so here is a matching set: > >> freebsd-version > 12.1-RELEASE-p8 > >> zfs list > NAME                 USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT > zroot               90.6G   801G    88K  /zroot > zroot/ROOT          89.9G   801G    88K  none > zroot/ROOT/default  89.9G   801G  89.9G  / > zroot/tmp            156K   801G   156K  /tmp > zroot/usr            723M   801G    88K  /usr > zroot/usr/home      18.7M   801G  18.7M  /usr/home > zroot/usr/ports       88K   801G    88K  /usr/ports > zroot/usr/src        704M   801G   704M  /usr/src > zroot/var           21.7M   801G    88K  /var > zroot/var/audit       88K   801G    88K  /var/audit > zroot/var/crash       88K   801G    88K  /var/crash > zroot/var/log       21.3M   801G  21.3M  /var/log > zroot/var/mail        88K   801G    88K  /var/mail > zroot/var/tmp         88K   801G    88K  /var/tmp > >> zpool status >   pool: zroot >  state: ONLINE >   scan: none requested > config: > >         NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM >         zroot       ONLINE       0     0     0 >           mirror-0  ONLINE       0     0     0 >             ada0p3  ONLINE       0     0     0 >             ada1p3  ONLINE       0     0     0 > > errors: No known data errors You would not have to remember what host and what command you issued if you put useful information (date, time, username, hostname, present working directory) into your shell prompt and posted complete console stanzas -- prompt, command issued, and output obtained: 2021-09-15 11:12:46 dpchrist@f3 ~ $ freebsd-version ; uname -a ; echo "SHELL=$SHELL"; echo "PS1=$PS1" 12.2-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com 12.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p7 GENERIC amd64 SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash PS1=\n\D{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S} dpchrist@\h \w\n\$ (Looking at the value of PS1, it is curious that I hard-coded the username as 'dpchrist' rather than using a '\u' special character. I have been using the same PS1 on multiple platforms and with multiple Bourne-like shells for many years; one of them must have been lacking this feature.) Looking at the console output for your third computer, above, my previous comment regarding small OS devices also applies to this computer. I never saw a response to my question regarding backups (?). 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The username is not hard-coded -- it is set from the USER environment variable in my Bourne shell profile: 2021-09-15 12:20:50 dpchrist@dipsy ~ $ grep PS1 .profile export PS1='\n\D{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S} '${USER}'@\h \w\n\$ ' David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 16 15:28:57 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9438A67C3D9 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kilikmatej@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb36.google.com (mail-yb1-xb36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H9LbD313Cz3sk6 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kilikmatej@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb36.google.com with SMTP id a93so13766367ybi.1 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pCP8uqZTJ7lEGgRZXk9LH+4vII0soOxIT2VkenCkHng=; b=YF07WM6qe6evZPLSRDaKaSmU+krMbXnF2Lrn5CxlpAvumm3gGhRbxtCKPjk39T5ce/ ZOGLEoEvF6SbdqfgCJk0f7uWt0YUwfqFFr5VMwyPp/mw7NZ4GGGXWKWw3+AzgVoTqQmS MStfCwxjlCyS9km384L//VDCZ/f55lWRvBQavr0sT97D8Hu3yKxX1yqHliYBwBjBdd15 rXq55Vj4hPphSnBdDTTJKvclnoO3uzcrenaoAfl3qyQX5vUZQPEQTa5garyTABKrue+1 XJ3DXj1Pg8bDZ076IjogHylZ2JfrZgUqMC2pad3+UUt0bwbNiodSHZMQLNhY175ZT13Z eXBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pCP8uqZTJ7lEGgRZXk9LH+4vII0soOxIT2VkenCkHng=; b=3wW7NZYGgbfPgB+9sGrbjJDwyhphrO2OB6zD7vbITMxMselfFJA48cy4jyWur8Ip9q aBI+2FWlXF+4RyYq672Fuz0BPTdJ0JlZB1cCbCGt8FC929EcUeMVKyreKUgSb+4TTqT5 fbukO2vVaX4G1NTsv2vyitmfujLBRZk1xJxm1nu2HvpzhlXoG3mmDzKEcmlp7CQ7PLdL cR93uDd3xTUKUcPLOVg3jRcBpMwp0gNWKaKbmcNq7NgzFi/kSI7OkeqPtPWbAJRuDqR/ U2sOTl/dDb07w6aF3fn4PzTrRHHXP1X2aEro6rZdG56j4JmkdCm2pb3b2sUPyBmUagxC zBZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533USr7LLY6Lc1wS0fJ+izIgD/MkIbgTH5SKfTs2y9YY3R6IrEj+ D/7IYb29hbyoqY438vTZBDAyW+xsEFtZv1deFv5s3U1knHY/OQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw/Lg/knsKzXEbcrkbNKqltDADPf4QGimt5tqf/pDTksXccG2IuV1iX2f6bT/2pflAS+E82bMCb3eIvmppoVxU= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:cc7:: with SMTP id e7mr7797677ybr.152.1631806135621; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 08:28:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Matt K Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 17:28:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: POST-DEINSTALL script failed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H9LbD313Cz3sk6 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=YF07WM6q; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kilikmatej@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b36 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kilikmatej@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.14 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b36:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.86)[0.864]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:28:57 -0000 Hello, on my FreeBSD-13-RELEASE, I managed to encounter this problem with qt5-testlib, which keeps on reinstalling and uninstalling itself whenever I run pkg update && pkg upgrade && pkg autoremove. So, here is the output of pkg clean -a && pkg -d install -f qt5-testlib && pkg remove qt5-testlib ~> pls pkg clean -a The following package files will be deleted: /var/cache/pkg/qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1~8682ca4f00.pkg /var/cache/pkg/qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1.pkg The cleanup will free 160 KiB Proceed with cleaning the cache? [y/N]: Y Deleting files: 100% All done ~> pls pkg -d install -f qt5-testlib DBG(1)[99101]> pkg initialized Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... DBG(1)[99101]> PkgRepo: verifying update for FreeBSD DBG(1)[99101]> Pkgrepo, begin update of '/var/db/pkg/repo-FreeBSD.sqlite' DBG(1)[99101]> Request to fetch pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/meta.conf DBG(1)[99101]> opening libfetch fetcher DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch > libfetch: connecting DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch: fetching from: http://pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/meta.conf with opts "i" DBG(1)[99101]> Request to fetch pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/packagesite.pkg DBG(1)[99101]> opening libfetch fetcher DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch > libfetch: connecting DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch: fetching from: http://pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/packagesite.pkg with opts "i" DBG(1)[99101]> Request to fetch pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/packagesite.txz DBG(1)[99101]> opening libfetch fetcher DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch > libfetch: connecting DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch: fetching from: http://pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/packagesite.txz with opts "i" FreeBSD repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. DBG(1)[99101]> want to get an advisory lock on a database The following 1 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: qt5-testlib: 5.15.2_1 Number of packages to be installed: 1 160 KiB to be downloaded. Proceed with this action? [y/N]: Y DBG(1)[99101]> Request to fetch pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1.pkg DBG(1)[99101]> opening libfetch fetcher DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch > libfetch: connecting DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch: fetching from: http://pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1.pkg with opts "i" DBG(1)[99101]> Fetch: fetcher chosen: http[1/1] Fetching qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1.pkg: 100% 160 KiB 163.9kB/s 00:01 Checking integrity...DBG(1)[99101]> Binary> loading /var/cache/pkg/qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1~8682ca4f00.pkg DBG(1)[99101]> check integrity for 1 items added done (0 conflicting) DBG(1)[99101]> want to upgrade advisory to exclusive lock[1/1] Installing qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1...[1/1] Extracting qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1: 100% DBG(1)[99101]> release an exclusive lock on a database DBG(1)[99101]> release an advisory lock on a database ~> pkg info -l qt5-testlib qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1: /usr/local/include/qt5/QtTest/5.15.2/QtTest/private/callgrind_p.h 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/usr/local/share/licenses/qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1/catalog.mk ~> pls pkg remove qt5-testlib Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Deinstallation has been requested for the following 1 packages (of 0 packages in the universe): Installed packages to be REMOVED: qt5-testlib: 5.15.2_1 Number of packages to be removed: 1 Proceed with deinstalling packages? [y/N]: y[1/1] Deinstalling qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1...[1/1] Deleting files for qt5-testlib-5.15.2_1: 100% pkg: POST-DEINSTALL script failed ~> So, what should I try next? I don't care about this package, it got in as a dependency, but whenever I run pkg upgrade, it wants to get in again: Code: New packages to be INSTALLED: openldap24-client: 2.4.59_2 qt5-testlib: 5.15.2_ -- MK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 16 22:40:52 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECF66A999D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 22:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryan-lists@shatow.net) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [52.11.127.251]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H9X9b0lvbz4bB6; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 22:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryan-lists@shatow.net) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CD2DDB5; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:40:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id 5eHyo7OxIMUS; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Clarification on MOVED entries when flavouring a port DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.xzibition.com C41DFDDAC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=shatow.net; s=mxc204805312015; t=1631832041; bh=nBZdIUU5Ut0A3ofPmNAkweeX2UNTtT1pDFS9/aXWY5M=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Us74QctN91Hrp6yOBmCJoNeoKLk1ukcnAfZblFePLPC9mENfIvL5/55PvVlf7Kfyy 9GaFQLTLk/BTUljJedPUE2E13jarTa2/JoFAye1PkvY0Fpy1Diho+PJjtgxPm3mwmT P3DPSCc5g0/7/Z1aNTpzDq6GfN0a7FNK2WPXl/JiORnSrXNEXzR+u7ChPzjvHjbIAR yjzeB3+RtFlTO309XjKKF9JBFeFwTXP309Gi7DablzuE+NdNDUY0SIvp8d5XP7JvN3 mfTyaWg0Z8ApNY6Efx5uxV2LGBjZzeoEJwbujpWqdT3b7hDck7RWKg7pgk/Mkfs53a ybS5tm8Ie7P/g== To: Mel Pilgrim , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48ff904a-aad1-6440-f319-ce3e38fcc250@bluerosetech.com> From: Bryan Drewery Message-ID: <9d3aa65f-c84b-c0d0-c475-07d4d5473c17@shatow.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:40:41 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <48ff904a-aad1-6440-f319-ce3e38fcc250@bluerosetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H9X9b0lvbz4bB6 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=shatow.net header.s=mxc204805312015 header.b=Us74QctN; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=shatow.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bryan-lists@shatow.net designates 52.11.127.251 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bryan-lists@shatow.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[shatow.net:s=mxc204805312015]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[shatow.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[shatow.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:52.10.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 05:36:15 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 22:40:52 -0000 On 9/14/2021 4:48 PM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: > I'm flavouring a port.  The pkg name will change when upgrading from > unflavoured to flavoured because the flavoured version will have a > PKGNAMESUFFIX.  Does this require a MOVED entry? > > The PKGNAMESUFFIX is based on default-versions so the "default" flavour > is whatever the current default version is.  If I need a MOVED entry, do > I make the entry with the current default version? > If the old default behavior now is renamed to FOO-flavor and is also the new default, then a MOVED entry is probably not needed. That is, if the user can ignore the change then MOVED does not need to be considered. MOVED is primarily for paths rather than FLAVORs but it _can_ be used for FLAVOR renames. -- Regards, Bryan Drewery From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 17 06:51:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F476AF055 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H9l432DBcz3DPB for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 18H6pY2h007836 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:51:35 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 18H6p98b023123; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:51:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <202109170651.18H6p98b023123@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:51:09 -0500 To: Chris Ross Subject: Re: Device names in ZFS pool Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 6/20/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H9l432DBcz3DPB X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.80 / 15.00]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:205.166.94.0/24]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sdf.org,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:51:48 -0000 On Thu, 9 Sep 2021 16:48:28 -0400 Chris Ross wrote: >Hey there. So, I created a ZFS pool, a RAID-Z with ?da5 da2 da3?. These are then the device names that appeared in ?zpool status mypool?. However, da3 had errors, and I replaced it by another disk living at da1. Then, I removed the bad disk and moved things in the enclosure. But, after this, some ids seem to have changed, and what was originally ?da5? is now ?da4? and ?zpool status mypool? shows: > FreeBSD normally assigns da device numbers in the order that the devices are detected and identified by the kernel. ada device enumeration appears to happen in the order encountered by the bus-controller-port hardware addresses of the devices. da devices are today most commonly devices attached by USB. Because you gave entire drives to ZFS, your label options are limited to /dev/da?, /dev/diskid/*, and maybe /dev/gptid/*. For the latter, add the following line to /boot/loader.conf. If you had used gpart(8) to partition the devices with GPT layouts, then you would have had the option of using gpt labels as well, which would have appeared in /dev/gpt. For my largest pool, for which I use the first partition on each of six drives (it's a raidz2), I use the partition label to identify the device by its manufacturer and serial number, which makes identifying a problem device both trivial and exact. I don't even need to apply an exterior printed label because the manufacturer has already done so. kern.geom.label.gptid.enable="1" Because the first of those is subject to frequent change upon reboot or detaching and reattaching the device in question, one of the latter is preferable in many situations and especially those involving ZFS. However, it is worth noting that a diskid will change anytime you replace a device in ZFS. In any case, whenever is device in a ZFS pool is offline or faulted, a zpool status command will display that device as a many-digit integer and as, for example, "(was /dev/da5)". In that situation, trying to do, say, a zpool replace mypool da5 or a zpool replace mypool da5 da8 may fail because da5 is not available. It will fail when the device that was on /dev/da5 has been enumerated as, say, da6 on the latest reboot. Similarly, a zpool replace mypool da8 will fail because da8 is/was not part of the pool and is not the device that ZFS is looking for. However, if the number shown in the status output is 112574468553112, then a zpool replace mypool 112574468553112 da8 is what you need. I mostly let ZFS do whatever it wants w.r.t. device names and then just do my best to accommodate it because fighting it rarely succeeds. :-} That said, I would note that many folks prefer to refer to a device when creating a pool or adding/attaching/removing a device by its gptid. I haven't yet done this, so I can't say for sure that this will work for you, but it may cause ZFS to prefer the gptid when recognizing devices while activating or importing a pool, in which case you will have a consistent way to identify each devices in the pool. Many have said, OTOH, that reference by diskid allows them to identify a failed or failing physical device more easily because they can paste a matching label onto the drive. > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > mypool ONLINE 0 0 0 > raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > diskid/DISK-Z1Z946N90000R546NBZH ONLINE 0 0 0 You can, of course, refer to /dev/diskid devices if you like. I don't like having them around, mainly because ZFS seems to refer to devices with multiple names without any consistency of order. If you don't like them being around, you can disable their generation by placing the following line into /boot/loader.conf. kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable="0" My largest pool only has three drives that are connected (usually) by USB externally, and its other three are on ada devices, whose addresses do not change, so I haven't really had many problems in identifying the drive(s) of interest. I also disable the generation of gptid device names for the same reasons. > da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 > da1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > >If I use zdb, I can see that value stored in the ?path? of each child of the vdev/pool. But, can I _change_ it? I know this is the reason many people suggest not using device names like I did, but, if I switch to gpt labels or the like, I?ll still need to update these in this existing vdev, right? Please be aware that you can only switch to gpt labels by partitioning the drives as GPT-partitioned drives with at least one partition on each that you have labeled. (See gpart(8)'s add and modify subcommands.) And you will only be able to do that in your case by destroying the pool first, partitioning the drive, and then recreating the pool because you have already given the *entire* drive to ZFS. You have left no space for the partition tables, and you cannot reduce the size of a device node already given to ZFS. > >How can I change these path labels? 1. You can reboot, and then see how the device names are assigned that time. 2. You can export the pool and then import it with, for example, zpool import -d /dev/diskid mypool or zpool import -d /dev/gptid mypool to get ZFS to look for ZFS labels on those devices instead of starting its search in /dev. However, if your pool is small, which it presumably is because it is a raidz1 pool, why worry about which device names ZFS uses? You should have little trouble figuring out what it is doing or how to deal with a problem. OTOH, when your pool comprises a dozen or more devices, then it may well be worth using diskid or gptid device names and placing printed or handwritten labels onto the drives. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. 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