From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 05:19:31 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABFA6B10E5 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 05:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnelson@nelnet.org) Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMXGB2Fwxz4S7x for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 05:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnelson@nelnet.org) Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id e12so3309417wra.4 for ; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 22:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QuERNAMmh3Tivs0ay2/Tt4TYb1F7R8thZl8WxA7QOcM=; b=sQFehpkTu4mMM7eZpdMTdzUEtd1+Iltqgc45QOwSbci2vz0HacPlBYj6g+x03mvS8a WOM/WUsnjqZbbzRZpWf13sTqNnzxLLb9mJaoKQGxeDh6SViDfc6Ekx7mPuUqy0tZ83XA xBMBMFQFolaix9rFRTREEUK5MEh90r+zvJ3biidRUBefkIWndeX5xCBCbifQrGmSGCdC 0n1N3qr3p+NyChlpKUEwspmNssWpE90Fs1C7wXfKpM2F1A9saHMh694gH1zK+T5ZqIkH 8nZ+o05OxMRKEpuFFfuY221g17qoG2mmKwDAk34dcih9XHl4CFqkic0YjD7L53lkbMK2 araw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QuERNAMmh3Tivs0ay2/Tt4TYb1F7R8thZl8WxA7QOcM=; b=Rtm44u7FVWMOXFNTmlJ3N/Pl/9Ey2c4Q+Ep9qWo9kUoRPO4EkzyC9AiQL5SR1m9aZm pUsagucvT5h5clAnUvYIgzULgiG9okosdKL5HYkIO53cIgKHtnRiHMPMDBpmAG8O7IzD BJUnhJeoQMKpfSCTHNPOz52EiOlRPeSEW68BaNL6KFj6S91GQYOsreuj1vS1DoDPtG8J gDg0pHpggs/MA24cu7F9ZwsKGjp4X34FhLeSjXMw25JEOh2PNkyK+ftQmHXldyMjLzsZ T5CE1fl3TJQ+Sh78ww/S+A147ykRpHVpVB1nwFBDdxVAAkJI+FSUD2utBLJA4htoTInr 4CzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532OXOE+t77GCBvv8y7O1W/bIjg5w6eUpABQIwAQZ3p0/Kxu/fTn YApGdlv22uDaVV4HhPI6FwRNSaVSq2olVjWgyE35kAI5Zm7gSw9b X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyJJEoeB6B+B00oQrkyAKwuJ15BeAosPij4eWq44LdIQi0/qAOK3E8Qfxa5Qz4CpwFW+4QbFzqAvKCb+oI54iU= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6d03:: with SMTP id e3mr6498282wrq.383.1633238367858; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 22:19:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Lee Nelson Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 22:19:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Upgrade without Internet access To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMXGB2Fwxz4S7x X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=sQFehpkT; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lnelson@nelnet.org has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::430) smtp.mailfrom=lnelson@nelnet.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[nelnet.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::430:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 05:19:31 -0000 I feel like this should be an easy question to find an answer to, but an evening of frustration and search has found me nothing. I am trying to upgrade two systems from 12.2 to 13.0. However, over my very poor-quality satellite Internet connection, sudo freebsd-update -r 13.0-RELEASE upgrade always fails: ....13160....13170....13180....13190....13200....13210....13220....13230....13240....13250....13260....13270....13280.... gunzip: (stdin): unexpected end of file 2354a6afb867bb4e6206b58be4804d4307b9048c8767ac52081be80c162cf8d1 has incorrect hash. I don't know whether some sort of timeout kicks in or my provider is causing enough interruptions that the connection dies, or..... who knows? This is life with satellite Internet. Is there some way to upgrade an existing system without (or with minimal use of) an Internet connection? Is there some way to pre-fetch the files onto portable storage while using a stable Internet connection elsewhere? Is there a way to upgrade from an ISO/USB? I have a 13.0 USB img file, but booting ftom it only seems to have the options to install or use the live cd, not upgrade. I have many OpenBSD machines. For them, I download the install files once and use a local http server to make them available during upgrades. Is there some way to do something similar with FreeBSD? -- https://keybase.io/nelsonov From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 05:34:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF32A6B1A7E for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 05:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d400067a7aee.053bff58f8bdaaf481f57820a41076cd@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMXZw2wgSz4TG9 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 05:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d400067a7aee.053bff58f8bdaaf481f57820a41076cd@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633239240; x=1635831240; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=xUhF34+7+YZki4DwPYDsomNiENic1ReSMeqBrNq5VgQ=; b=tslY4Mr5q+Eh1ZXZhfDbrU7yDXqLpek2WWnqbk/r8xZDc4DBP8U8+4ha2n2dvl7ApFDzIyA26uXxQROvltp8m8q6LNA9a2FS1YLkMD1Pgc44xCJ3jLNUBKJH/qqYOshbCgrEN5QQd4EF5M3RlN7cuFDoP4RDO6jonoYnYEempbM= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkNDAwMDY3YTdhZWUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:33:59 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:33:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1mWu8K-000G6n-IY; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 06:33:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 06:33:53 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy Message-Id: <20211003063353.7415d12917f0e514d433ae1c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <69954781-9e3c-ba96-5f1e-9b4043ecf56c@holgerdanske.com> References: <20211001222816.a36e9acbd4e8829aed3afb68@sohara.org> <809e4f3b-9e59-eb53-5b7d-0bcf7e401cd5@holgerdanske.com> <20211002115440.85c4342a49fe6e4573c37dd0@sohara.org> <20211002205504.9d81ee94caa231ee9b008d6a@sohara.org> <69954781-9e3c-ba96-5f1e-9b4043ecf56c@holgerdanske.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMXZw2wgSz4TG9 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=tslY4Mr5; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d400067a7aee.053bff58f8bdaaf481f57820a41076cd@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d400067a7aee.053bff58f8bdaaf481f57820a41076cd@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.191.2:received]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d400067a7aee.053bff58f8bdaaf481f57820a41076cd@email-od.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d400067a7aee.053bff58f8bdaaf481f57820a41076cd@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 05:34:01 -0000 On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:09:23 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > Assuming I can create a ZFS pool from one or more ZFS volume datasets > (?), here is an idea: I don't think you can create a pool on top of zvols, I couldn't get it to work last time I tried. > 1. Create a large 'archive' pool. Say, 10 TB. > > 2. Within the archive pool, create many small volumes. Say, 100 > volumes of 100 GB each. Why not just split the drives into 100GB partitions with gpart rather than attempting to nest zpools ? > 3. For each source, create a 'archive-source' pool using the 'zpool > create -R' option and one or more volumes as required for capacity. Also record the root mount for use at boot time. > 4. From the archive server, replicate datasets from their respective > source pools to their corresponding archive-source pools using the 'zfs > receive -u' option. Once you have altroot working then you want the dataset mounted - read only though. > 5. Upon receipt of a replica dataset, save the 'canmount' property (for > restore). If it is 'on', set it to 'notauto'. No need. > 6. Upon receipt of a replica dataset, save the 'readonly' property (for > restore). If it is 'off', set it to 'on'. Yes. It is also necessary to check to see whether the target pool has enough space and if not throw a few more logs on the fire. > The most obvious problem is if the system crashes between #4 and #5. On > subsequent boot, AIUI all previously active pools will be automatically > imported (e.g. without 'altroot') and all datasets with 'canmount=on' > will be mounted (according to 'mountpoint'). If two or more datasets > are mounted at the same mount point, the results could be bad. > 'bootpool' and 'zroot' are likely cases. This is where the boot script to restore the altroot settings comes in - but it has to run before zfs attempts the mounts. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 07:32:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766866B247B for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 07:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMbD86w0Mz4bS1 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 07:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 1937WmOS076760 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 09:32:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20211001222816.a36e9acbd4e8829aed3afb68@sohara.org> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <8222f644-bc60-82e5-dcb1-a083fa091683@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 09:32:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMbD86w0Mz4bS1 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 07:32:58 -0000 On 10/3/21 1:21 AM, tech-lists wrote: > A month (30 days) later someone looks for file 2 as it was on day 1, and > it's not the one they expected on the source. So I have to get it from > the backup somehow. In order to do this, and given that when I'm looking > for this I might not know *when* file 2 was deleted from the source, then > changed and then added To me, it looks like what you're looking for is a backup system that keeps track of all these files in a database (e.g. sysutils/bacula). Problem is, you're not using ZFS snapshots, then. > do I have to keep every single snapshot? Yes, for sure. > If this is the case, then how can I scan through the snapshots > looking for the right file? there may be thousands of snapshots. Perhaps something like: find /{mountpoint}/.zfs/snapshot/ -name "{filename}" ... > Or can I incorporate or expire the snapshots into the full backup and > tell it that I want to look back to day 1 and retreive file 2? Not as far as I know. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 08:37:05 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D056B3E8E for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 08:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMcf76LPHz4fqs for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 08:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1633250212; bh=m3OjyKvKngKeNQbko+L+cv4Ovdy2G36XNVu19U7gG5I=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MnOuR63A1ckHrAww1NDA3fp4Bax8nRop3WScQZd+DNqrocFhKAMtjerMHXf3/hm3y h39R3ue9astTRHKMMcEZFR1LGDgq3FjVybWd9v5G9MptValppbPGsKxeScFBQAImP8 GIvK3ig2XfP5PWn6Q1f6XVBu7gtFgY7BeHoG6fawQ7nDl2VxWOXTYW6kgODQM4kBzb wg0BPGXl+MR+Zh9otyG6gmFgMEPYuqDj066ZiPXnTD3lL6DXvC2SLgBsW/iIkJ1rtM d31jY16al+fJDzpumrDVfeJ+EZqiJSOld0SleoHSLl7zCbXwlTO0Gvx2qX1ZEWg9Ar RENMAVsaFbhZYU5Uy1H5KLBGJAMP8qh7TFG+p2a4ulNXos/F6zjd9x0UGhjdDcYM6b tJ4I7ahNlggxl2j+ECSl+1+Fu0sO5bSUK7v9J2A7DOw2wiuDWGoyWSgS9gJ6lWu6y6 IWrspRr/Ivg6nkllbqlR0lGS46J1LJZu9cGVEQpqLsr+9aqBkFrLIo8gq2v4m1Fn2P oDdY1JPeNqVPBjVX/ZbH85ufYEIYCw/KhXTxdaoPGt4yu+R6BzCUwzSkYoPF+QrRml p1UCjD4iQwpk46nCDvQLCXWECBGC4lSJ/MWnsFr1f/zj+rxP5vOh7SkRfUsQCNtmGX iqZfhP2hLSPNFQ1xmFJsW424= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:36:52 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:36:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20211001222816.a36e9acbd4e8829aed3afb68@sohara.org> <809e4f3b-9e59-eb53-5b7d-0bcf7e401cd5@holgerdanske.com> <20211002115440.85c4342a49fe6e4573c37dd0@sohara.org> <20211002205504.9d81ee94caa231ee9b008d6a@sohara.org> <69954781-9e3c-ba96-5f1e-9b4043ecf56c@holgerdanske.com> <20211003063353.7415d12917f0e514d433ae1c@sohara.org> From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: <20211003063353.7415d12917f0e514d433ae1c@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMcf76LPHz4fqs X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=MnOuR63A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 184.105.128.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 08:37:05 -0000 On 10/2/21 22:33, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:09:23 -0700 > David Christensen wrote: > >> Assuming I can create a ZFS pool from one or more ZFS volume datasets >> (?), here is an idea: > > I don't think you can create a pool on top of zvols, I couldn't get > it to work last time I tried. > >> 1. Create a large 'archive' pool. Say, 10 TB. >> >> 2. Within the archive pool, create many small volumes. Say, 100 >> volumes of 100 GB each. > > Why not just split the drives into 100GB partitions with gpart > rather than attempting to nest zpools ? The idea was to do redundancy (mirror, raidzN), caching, etc, once at the bottom level, rather than multiple times (once for each archive-source pool). But if it is not possible to build second-level ZFS pools on top of ZFS volumes on top of a first-level ZFS pool, then GPT partitions and doing it the hard way should work. But first, I would want to research GEOM and see if it can do RAID (I suspect the answer is yes). >> 3. For each source, create a 'archive-source' pool using the 'zpool >> create -R' option and one or more volumes as required for capacity. > > Also record the root mount for use at boot time. Yes. Figuring out where to put this, and the other settings/ data/ logs/ whatever, will be important to usability and to failure survival/ recovery. >> 4. From the archive server, replicate datasets from their respective >> source pools to their corresponding archive-source pools using the 'zfs >> receive -u' option. > > Once you have altroot working then you want the dataset mounted - > read only though. > >> 5. Upon receipt of a replica dataset, save the 'canmount' property (for >> restore). If it is 'on', set it to 'notauto'. > > No need. > >> 6. Upon receipt of a replica dataset, save the 'readonly' property (for >> restore). If it is 'off', set it to 'on'. > > Yes. I suppose the 'zfs receive -u' is overkill if 'altroot' is set properly on the pool, but I am not adverse to another layer of safety when doing sysadmin scripting. I also prefer having explicit control over if/when the replica is mounted. Most of the prior ideas are for the first full replication job of each dataset. More research/ testing/ thinking is needed for ongoing incremental replication jobs. > It is also necessary to check to see whether the target pool has > enough space and if not throw a few more logs on the fire. Yes -- that and probably a dozen more use-cases/ features to get to a minimal, fully-automatic implementation. >> The most obvious problem is if the system crashes between #4 and #5. On >> subsequent boot, AIUI all previously active pools will be automatically >> imported (e.g. without 'altroot') and all datasets with 'canmount=on' >> will be mounted (according to 'mountpoint'). If two or more datasets >> are mounted at the same mount point, the results could be bad. >> 'bootpool' and 'zroot' are likely cases. > > This is where the boot script to restore the altroot settings comes > in - but it has to run before zfs attempts the mounts. Do you have any idea if and what hooks are available during system boot and ZFS setup? STFW I see the following, but will need more information to affect ZFS during boot: https://openzfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/boot-process.html https://www.unix.com/man-page/freebsd/8/zfsloader/ David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 09:20:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754976B42D4 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 09:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d400067b7a97.145f486baf7117857bc4e3647d0ff4c1@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMdcT3H9Lz4jNv for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 09:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d400067b7a97.145f486baf7117857bc4e3647d0ff4c1@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633252841; x=1635844841; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=7P+iN53CE3gMAb4VQqSCUqn8Pn+tB0gEmmYRl/GEtEE=; b=SmW38smYizBmryqqySCd5yXkIreFAf0mZhfAxOGGQl1qy8fFYgFggXjEZx9az56U00WMAOT8RhWi7Sylhjnibl/OdXSmmhX9SjVeOB1cJ4WIdFVbBVRfP+hxs/duncdhMoTACjFGHzfhTTur4vr9VPdBlZuynnPnamF13t14LaA= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkNDAwMDY3YjdhOTcuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 05:20:39 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 05:20:38 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1mWxfh-000HUy-Ci; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 10:20:37 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:20:37 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy Message-Id: <20211003102037.7da16f00d478fc1e8d15c443@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20211001222816.a36e9acbd4e8829aed3afb68@sohara.org> <809e4f3b-9e59-eb53-5b7d-0bcf7e401cd5@holgerdanske.com> <20211002115440.85c4342a49fe6e4573c37dd0@sohara.org> <20211002205504.9d81ee94caa231ee9b008d6a@sohara.org> <69954781-9e3c-ba96-5f1e-9b4043ecf56c@holgerdanske.com> <20211003063353.7415d12917f0e514d433ae1c@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMdcT3H9Lz4jNv X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=SmW38smY; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d400067b7a97.145f486baf7117857bc4e3647d0ff4c1@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d400067b7a97.145f486baf7117857bc4e3647d0ff4c1@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.189.3:received]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d400067b7a97.145f486baf7117857bc4e3647d0ff4c1@email-od.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d400067b7a97.145f486baf7117857bc4e3647d0ff4c1@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 09:20:42 -0000 On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:36:51 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > The idea was to do redundancy (mirror, raidzN), caching, etc, once at > the bottom level, rather than multiple times (once for each > archive-source pool). But if it is not possible to build second-level > ZFS pools on top of ZFS volumes on top of a first-level ZFS pool, then > GPT partitions and doing it the hard way should work. But first, I > would want to research GEOM and see if it can do RAID (I suspect the > answer is yes). GEOM can do RAID, but I'd rather leave redundancy to ZFS it does a better job of it. I think the easy option is to pick a partition size, a stripe width and RAIDZ policy (this is an archive so space over performance efficiency) and prepare a script that just adds a standard vdev to a pool from the stock of unused partitions. > Yes. Figuring out where to put this, and the other settings/ data/ > logs/ whatever, will be important to usability and to failure survival/ > recovery. The easy option is to have the archive server boot from UFS so that it can do things before ZFS starts up. A pair of small SSDs in a mirror should do the job well enough. > I suppose the 'zfs receive -u' is overkill if 'altroot' is set properly > on the pool, but I am not adverse to another layer of safety when doing > sysadmin scripting. I also prefer having explicit control over if/when > the replica is mounted. Fair enough. > Most of the prior ideas are for the first full replication job of each > dataset. More research/ testing/ thinking is needed for ongoing > incremental replication jobs. Minimal condition (that's skipped all too often) *verify* with the destination that the last increment was properly handled. Yeah there are interesting failure modes - even before you try to allow for ham fisted sysadmins doing stupid things. > Yes -- that and probably a dozen more use-cases/ features to get to a > minimal, fully-automatic implementation. Yep, not least being "stop dead and shout loudly when it's too screwed to proceed". Many manage the first bit and fail the second leaving the lazy admin in blissful ignorance until they need the data. > Do you have any idea if and what hooks are available during system boot > and ZFS setup? The easiest thing is to use the rc script dependency mechanism to do things before zfs gets going. Another possible place would be the sender but that's getting very fiddly and creating nasty boot time dependencies between systems (I still have bad memories of a site that could never be fully shut down because of the rats nest of NFS mounts that contained many cycles - I hope they sorted it out before the first power failure). KISS and UFS[1] I think. [1] Don't say that to anyone who doesn't know what it means. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 09:46:54 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6636B4AB3 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 09:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMfBj19ffz4kng for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 09:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1633254407; bh=XgjF40c6JH68XORJ/zDleVM8DWSKFTRZRXTaqBF84P0=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JxAFpVRGgs4o7qmqMv4ip+m4JaOP8UuW6px2btWtjF6TrGgfzEbNu4gVFqDIqjT7V zZICex9Q/cYJCifZ0MvW0pgZI+j923AafFhbrUvEV530FoYCfuQwFAhJqtFTtqFO8k +AAixF70zS49PuWslRZzOhrzSFN+kQWJ2cFi6nF1sCzAO19H6xoKIoc0Pj2QVtu6mr x3JnrjtY2qNjtHfpwQj4zztGpPfq4qEZ0LzS99VkJqFneSiT7y7eLt8lGOGgyAlN1b NN/jpLRmUUh/GTNfwFtjderzjkpe8UaTSEOJ4wxAtcQgqbvBh4TlGqFh3RuB87Mzy0 jyEKiaojGjfxXDm1et4ZLGa6dkW5KFVCGT9fIAGjdtnMHNTU0HE2Ez5bpFX/2KyGaX LwMHY4XwmwxT9YljMPmKUDx1XlG4BN2Hwsi0kLZ4LVaTUfl0AEaIjfTz2xhT7klkst hktO1hNZxtEOECYY794T0aOpVZCSQBF2s0B570xrf4jx8p/UheqoFLN99PcQv0+eFu /kvo3ZSNjsysw74KXeOidPjHz3bRCDX2M1ntpp1tiPCeFomcEhD26h1uuQzO1GAWX8 2rir7RDHMXoC9p5jweLs9TLoACrirDNjwt+dNz7cinhsxbC4OZCYZ/VinwksM9Wedu 4saxe480OM91gp7mxca2bkU0= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 02:46:47 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 02:46:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20211001222816.a36e9acbd4e8829aed3afb68@sohara.org> From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMfBj19ffz4kng X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=JxAFpVRG; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 184.105.128.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 09:46:54 -0000 On 10/2/21 16:21, tech-lists wrote: > OK. if I think I understand correctly then if we need to keep everything > then I'll need to keep every incremental snapshot. ZFS is novel and complex. It requires different thinking than traditional partitions/ slices, volumes, filesystems, etc.. I suggest that you build a FreeBSD VM, give it an extra disk, and play with ZFS. When you think you understand how to create, use, modify, and destroy pools, datasets, properties, and snapshots, add another disk, create another pool, and play with replication. Then you will understand whether or not ZFS makes sense for your systems and operations/ maintenance/ disaster preparedness procedures. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 11:34:11 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0CC6B6025 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 11:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMhZV1YH9z4qlB for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 11:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ltH9vMqJNe0jePHw0VOxlIHzZn6PZmnqpP7OJulhHbE=; b=tGxGn8rBGPoms439/uMuzXSOi5 UcZbxmNfcFSfTZmx95Zc46Pl3nFKhZYzs2ksBmgdJFKF1vkuZ7nl3uMu08fGTRKLxOTti7SZEr/10 ZXih8WfXPSHqeFliZD19FUw6wcN1JNf6pisSQ3ZSr5dX8u8PxPABFbSnmf1h61mJStci/3YPIPKBX KNEswer008Qkkc7hknHSvM/qoFvK+eCSGly67qqHPITPNQTG+g5+yk+brTw7pRkywFcu2aoOX+AzP yL3ojmAf1RKqZYG2kESyrzpCH4A3yiHCNp8uMgnLr4gFVwHA9PaDaj/IEhMQyrxnoyQWJqPvjz/nW x0ZO/EZA==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0EG4N-000YWM-NZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 13:33:59 +0200 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 13:33:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMhZV1YH9z4qlB X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=tGxGn8rB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 11:34:11 -0000 On 10/3/21 07:19, Lee Nelson wrote: > I feel like this should be an easy question to find an answer to, but > an evening of frustration and search has found me nothing. > > I am trying to upgrade two systems from 12.2 to 13.0. However, over > my very poor-quality satellite Internet connection, > sudo freebsd-update -r 13.0-RELEASE upgrade > always fails: > ....13160....13170....13180....13190....13200....13210....13220....13230....13240....13250....13260....13270....13280.... > gunzip: (stdin): unexpected end of file > 2354a6afb867bb4e6206b58be4804d4307b9048c8767ac52081be80c162cf8d1 has > incorrect hash. > > I don't know whether some sort of timeout kicks in or my provider is > causing enough interruptions that the connection dies, or..... who > knows? This is life with satellite Internet. > > Is there some way to upgrade an existing system without (or with > minimal use of) an Internet connection? Is there some way to > pre-fetch the files onto portable storage while using a stable > Internet connection elsewhere? Is there a way to upgrade from an > ISO/USB? I have a 13.0 USB img file, but booting ftom it only seems to > have the options to install or use the live cd, not upgrade. > > I have many OpenBSD machines. For them, I download the install files > once and use a local http server to make them available during > upgrades. Is there some way to do something similar with FreeBSD? This is actually a good question. I've never quite thought about it, but you might be right - doing an offline upgrade could be tricky. Someone with more clue would have the chime in here. It's been a while since I had to do a disc-only upgrade, and that was Linux. Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 15:09:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF7F668FB3 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 15:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 93ab.82.c37a00051716e3.64a5dd7b950d9df8522478cdeb864daa@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b515.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b515.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.181.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMnLw2PV3z3L3q for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 15:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 93ab.82.c37a00051716e3.64a5dd7b950d9df8522478cdeb864daa@email-od.com) X-Thread-Info: OTNhYi4xMi5jMzdhMDAwNTE3MTZlMy5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r1.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.1]) by mxh4.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 11:09:21 -0400 Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) by r1.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 11:09:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 193F99WJ076458 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:09:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:09:04 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Sun, 03 Oct 2021 10:09:10 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: 193F99WJ076458 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.901, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, NICE_REPLY_A -0.00) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMnLw2PV3z3L3q X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tundraware.com:s=slkey,email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tundraware.com:+,email-od.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tundraware.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.181.21:from,142.0.189.1:received]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tundra@tundraware.com,93ab.82.c37a00051716e3.64a5dd7b950d9df8522478cdeb864daa@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:53658, ipnet:142.0.180.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tundra@tundraware.com,93ab.82.c37a00051716e3.64a5dd7b950d9df8522478cdeb864daa@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 15:09:30 -0000 > On 10/3/21 07:19, Lee Nelson wrote: > >> I feel like this should be an easy question to find an answer to, but >> an evening of frustration and search has found me nothing. 1. Use git to fetch the relevant source tree. Move this to /usr/src on the target machine and do the required 'mergemaster', 'make kernel', and 'make world' steps outlined in the handbook. Do this AFTER you have a good system backup, just in case. You're effectively rebuilding the entire OS and related docs from source. 1A. There are binary upgrades for FreeBSD available but I've never used them so I cannot comment on how one might get them for later use elsewhere or whether the will work disconnected from the Net. 2. You can upgrade ports, but it's a little tricky. Again, you first use git to get the latest ports tree. Then you have to get all the source tarballs required to build your ports and put them into /usr/ports/distfiles. This is painful because of the way ports depend on other ports, so it make take you a while to figure out what the whole set of required tarballs might be. 3. It might be easier to directly download the required packages, but I've never done that either. HTH, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 15:24:06 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C0C669603 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 15:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMngn2vCVz3Lk8 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 15:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uAhM1s7qEahk9EjqAZYi18DQ/sYw6W+mxMkzpY65b9E=; b=qWj9ZJIruToKKnVTxfqpsjS1kS HalYYmqC+cVW+FuWJIkjYp8vCkbgEMFV8LkAufL7UWMPR5CSCgveUtkH+F2bPnRDmn8tljyXrAlW7 mMkfzMMmdQGGwnurkdRG9MJHnN+6pRbs9arejb57n4UnBwpvxt36xXgM6wpo+Z2oWfMYXwM3ImaHD DZqYNw+1v0dYL8heQnjrfq9pEpo0I4is+5bkEDLVIfx5DXJfeAFTyXAGTuGSTAlZLL0owOGTgyrzF +jjmc1iVCC50/Mo/o+5WCGqaXlEFLDXoMFVdIy3OuSqRO8J+D4P52amVsm6yZ5xypcf1Ube3H+O7e 85MqnCYg==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0EQS0-000ZIP-4K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 17:24:00 +0200 Message-ID: <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 17:23:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMngn2vCVz3Lk8 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=qWj9ZJIr; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 15:24:06 -0000 On 10/3/21 17:09, Tim Daneliuk via freebsd-questions wrote: > 1. Use git to fetch the relevant source tree. Move this to /usr/src on > the target machine and do the required 'mergemaster', 'make kernel', > and 'make world' steps outlined in the handbook. Do this AFTER you > have a good system backup, just in case. You're effectively > rebuilding the entire OS and related docs from source. This was the old way of doing it. When I got on to FreeBSD, we'd moved on to "freebsd-update" :-). But I recall many painful memories of mates going toe-to-toe with "make world". > 1A. There are binary upgrades for FreeBSD available but I've never > used them so I cannot comment on how one might get them for > later use elsewhere or whether the will work disconnected from the Net. "freebsd-update" is pretty good. Been running it for nearly a decade now, and it's only gotten better. > > 2. You can upgrade ports, but it's a little tricky. Again, you first > use git to get the latest ports tree. Then you have to get all > the source tarballs required to build your ports and put them into > /usr/ports/distfiles. This is painful because of the way ports depend > on other ports, so it make take you a while to figure out what the > whole set of required tarballs might be. We use "portsnap" to update the Ports free, and "portmaster" to upgrade all affected ports. Is generally reliable; the only issue I've run into is if a Port is marked as deprecated, and then some manual work is needed. Otherwise, no major drama. > 3. It might be easier to directly download the required packages, but I've > never done that either. I'm not into the binary package management for FreeBSD. I'm old skool; I prefer managing Ports. That said, I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone running the binary packages without Internet. Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 16:59:10 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A766AF0F for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 16:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMqnT2FyDz3j01 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 16:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633280349; x=1635872349; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=K5mireU8g6or0YY9Vw+yHhDV3XzQkA1AUmUdk3ajmiI=; b=wJRlPAWJG4oC/wHvjDm+tusOkr8Z/T6NL4/5pF/CKUBulSbX+9iiDXoXy4uzzSXYjTWhc015n4moUEnzeCEvvTxmn0suZFoTOsljWmIuHI5TXdgaGysDk4JzHhM/daMaxmX5kY3x8RXVT+0Jq6guT+c2elK9AqIbfwcF4fnPihc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkNDAwMDY4NmE5MzMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 12:59:02 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 12:59:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1mX4pI-000KmH-Ry for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 17:59:00 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 17:59:00 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Message-Id: <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> References: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMqnT2FyDz3j01 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=wJRlPAWJ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 16:59:10 -0000 On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 17:23:59 +0200 Mark Tinka wrote: > This was the old way of doing it. > > When I got on to FreeBSD, we'd moved on to "freebsd-update" :-). But I > recall many painful memories of mates going toe-to-toe with "make world". > I'm not into the binary package management for FreeBSD. I'm old skool; I > prefer managing Ports. Interesting contrast that ;) I use packages and freebsd-update having started with source and ports back in the 1.1 days and gone through the coff/elf switch. The convenience and reliability of both of the binary approaches is a delight compared to some of the nightmares I've encountered over the years. > That said, I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone running the binary > packages without Internet. It can be done, you can download the packages to a local repository or use poudriere to maintain your own package repository custom built from ports with your favourite options. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 18:45:29 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2F666CB25 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMt880pTnz3sfD for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 18:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3AB32009DB for ; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 02:46:47AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: >On 10/2/21 16:21, tech-lists wrote: > >> OK. if I think I understand correctly then if we need to keep everything >> then I'll need to keep every incremental snapshot. > > >ZFS is novel and complex. It requires different thinking than >traditional partitions/ slices, volumes, filesystems, etc.. =20 Yep I hear you. Someone else mentioned bacula which keeps track of files in a database. Maybe thats the path I'll need to go down. I'm looking for a recent (say from 2020 on) book about ZFS and OpenZFS on FreeBSD with some worked examples. The Mastery books which I think you mentioned earlier, the latest I can find is from 2016 and a lot has happened to zfs in five years. It's a problem with all technology books where the technology changes rapidly. I'm familiar with zfs for my own use. It's saved data from broken disks several times. Just unfamiliar in this particilar use case: [1] offsite backup over ssh or tls [2] *all* changes to live site must be roll-backable [?] from backup, for all time. If a file disappears from the live site I should be able to restore it from backup. [3] backup must be searchable. Doesn't have to be searchable all the time, it just has to be if something needs to be restored. Basically if the system gets set up, runs for a couple of years say. Then I get asked to restore the site into the state it was a year and a half ago. Then three months on from that restore point, restore it somewher= e=20 else like another test system. I need to be able to do that reliably. 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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j21sm6408811qkl.25.2021.10.03.11.58.22 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 03 Oct 2021 11:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (zeus.seibercom.net [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4HMtR22VD6z1XZf for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 14:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 14:58:11 -0400 From: Jerry Seibert To: User questions Subject: SSL Error with "make fetchindex" Message-ID: <20211003145811.000026a6@seibercom.net> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom.NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.18.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/_97=42XPvuZcqSdHb3LnOLv"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMtR922h9z3t1F X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=j1pz34F1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.60 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82d:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 18:58:30 -0000 --Sig_/_97=42XPvuZcqSdHb3LnOLv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p9 I have been using 'git' and 'make fetchindex' for several months without any problems. Suddenly today, running 'make index' throws this error message: /usr/bin/env fetch -am -o /usr/ports/INDEX-11.bz2 https://www.FreeBSD.org/= ports/INDEX-11.bz2 Certificate verification failed for /O=3DDigital Signature Trust Co./CN=3DD= ST Root CA X3 34374359624:error:14090086:SSL routines:ssl3_get_server_certificate:certifi= cate verify failed:/usr/src/crypto/openssl/ssl/s3_clnt.c:1269: fetch: https://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/INDEX-11.bz2: Authentication error Certificate verification failed for /O=3DDigital Signature Trust Co./CN=3DD= ST Root CA X3 [truncated by me] Since I have not made any changes to my system, I can only assume it it on FreeBSD's side. 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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 19:04:21 -0000 I can probably muddle through the side-loading referenced by Dave Cottlehuber. Luckily, my systems are all zfs-based. Is there any documentation of the directory structure and files that freebsd-update looks for? I noticed that the first request is: GET /12.2-RELEASE/amd64/latest.ssl HTTP/1.1 So even though the target release is 13.0, it's pulling files from the 12.2 tree. On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:59 AM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 17:23:59 +0200 > Mark Tinka wrote: > > > This was the old way of doing it. > > > > When I got on to FreeBSD, we'd moved on to "freebsd-update" :-). But I > > recall many painful memories of mates going toe-to-toe with "make world". > > > > > I'm not into the binary package management for FreeBSD. I'm old skool; I > > prefer managing Ports. > > Interesting contrast that ;) > > I use packages and freebsd-update having started with source and > ports back in the 1.1 days and gone through the coff/elf switch. The > convenience and reliability of both of the binary approaches is a delight > compared to some of the nightmares I've encountered over the years. > > > That said, I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone running the binary > > packages without Internet. > > It can be done, you can download the packages to a local > repository or use poudriere to maintain your own package repository custom > built from ports with your favourite options. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- https://keybase.io/nelsonov From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 19:13:59 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C5C66D705 for ; 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 19:13:59 -0000 On 10/3/21 02:20, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:36:51 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > The easy option is to have the archive server boot from UFS so that > it can do things before ZFS starts up. I ran into the bootpool/ zroot issue when I built a FreeBSD root-on-ZFS USB flash drive for maintenance purposes. I saw a few choices: 1. Install with UFS, as you suggest. I have done this in the past and it works. But, ZFS is a killer feature. I want root-on-ZFS on all of my bootable devices; including maintenance USB flash drives. 2. Rename bootpool and zroot on the USB flash drive. I now set a unique root pool name during installation, but have not tried renaming bootpool. 3. Use the FreeBSD installer USB stick rescue/ live shell. I do this when I need to get inside an offline FreeBSD disk. 4. Use my Debian maintenance USB flash drive (MBR, ext4). This, plus an external USB HDD, is how I take/ restore/ clone OS disk images. Unfortunately, I do not see Debian packages for GELI or UFS. I have not tested ZFS compatability between Debian and FreeBSD. >> Do you have any idea if and what hooks are available during system boot >> and ZFS setup? > > The easiest thing is to use the rc script dependency mechanism to > do things before zfs gets going. That sounds like a possibility. > KISS and UFS[1] I think. +1 David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 18:57:07 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA1766CF0A for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 18:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from office@klepp.biz) Received: from vie01a-dmta-at52-2.mx.upcmail.net (vie01a-dmta-at52-2.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMtPZ1HRZz3sn2 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 18:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from office@klepp.biz) Received: from [172.31.216.41] (helo=vie01a-pemc-psmtp-at50) by vie01a-dmta-at52.mx.upcmail.net with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mX6fR-00FQuA-VE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 20:56:57 +0200 Received: from neo.lan ([85.126.97.210]) by vie01a-pemc-psmtp-at50 with SMTP @ mailcloud.upcmail.net id 1Wws2600t4YLlkt0BWwsle; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 20:56:52 +0200 X-SourceIP: 85.126.97.210 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=O6RJhF1W c=1 sm=2 tr=0 cx=a_idp_f:a_exe a=/Ac8Q0O/YFE5LOLfUiYZVw==:117 a=/Ac8Q0O/YFE5LOLfUiYZVw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=GoSab2XrPUu1muOEGIMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 20:56:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <202110032056.52130.office@klepp.biz> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMtPZ1HRZz3sn2 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of office@klepp.biz has no SPF policy when checking 62.179.121.143) smtp.mailfrom=office@klepp.biz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[62.179.121.143:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[klepp.biz]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_NAME_HAS_TITLE(1.00)[dr]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6830, ipnet:62.179.0.0/17, country:NL]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[62.179.121.143:from] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 20:05:00 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 18:57:07 -0000 Anno domini 2021 Sun, 3 Oct 19:45:22 +0100 tech-lists scripsit: > On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 02:46:47AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >On 10/2/21 16:21, tech-lists wrote: > > > >> OK. if I think I understand correctly then if we need to keep everything > >> then I'll need to keep every incremental snapshot. > > > > > >ZFS is novel and complex. It requires different thinking than > >traditional partitions/ slices, volumes, filesystems, etc.. > > Yep I hear you. Someone else mentioned bacula which keeps track of files > in a database. Maybe thats the path I'll need to go down. > > I'm looking for a recent (say from 2020 on) book about ZFS and OpenZFS > on FreeBSD with some worked examples. The Mastery books which I think > you mentioned earlier, the latest I can find is from 2016 and a lot has > happened to zfs in five years. It's a problem with all technology books > where the technology changes rapidly. > > I'm familiar with zfs for my own use. It's saved data from broken disks > several times. Just unfamiliar in this particilar use case: > > [1] offsite backup over ssh or tls > > [2] *all* changes to live site must be roll-backable [?] from backup, > for all time. If a file disappears from the live site I should be able > to restore it from backup. > > [3] backup must be searchable. Doesn't have to be searchable all the > time, it just has to be if something needs to be restored. > > Basically if the system gets set up, runs for a couple of years say. > Then I get asked to restore the site into the state it was a year and a > half ago. Then three months on from that restore point, restore it somewhere > else like another test system. I need to be able to do that reliably. > > But yeah, in the abscence of a book I really need to do testing. That's waht zfs allows you to do - well, if your disk is big enough to hold all snapshots :) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 22:23:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160F2670803 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 22:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lysfjord.daniel@smokepit.net) Received: from smtp-out.smokepit.net (smtp-out.smokepit.net [18.200.56.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp-out.smokepit.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMyzy1Khpz4kHn for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 22:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lysfjord.daniel@smokepit.net) Received: from [84.215.45.183] (helo=smokepit.net) by smtp-out.smokepit.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mX9tO-0006Pz-U9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 22:23:34 +0000 Received: from http01.lan.smokepit.net ([10.0.3.111] helo=webmail.smokepit.net) by smokepit.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1mX9tN-000ANi-9Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 00:23:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 22:23:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: RainLoop/1.16.0 From: "Daniel Lysfjord" Message-ID: <9066d6906ef93ef4155016792cbe3ce4@smokepit.net> Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <59ae4222-360c-afbe-4657-0a44d0d46d81@holgerdanske.com> References: <59ae4222-360c-afbe-4657-0a44d0d46d81@holgerdanske.com> <20211001222816.a36e9acbd4e8829aed3afb68@sohara.org> <809e4f3b-9e59-eb53-5b7d-0bcf7e401cd5@holgerdanske.com> <20211002115440.85c4342a49fe6e4573c37dd0@sohara.org> <20211002205504.9d81ee94caa231ee9b008d6a@sohara.org> <69954781-9e3c-ba96-5f1e-9b4043ecf56c@holgerdanske.com> <20211003063353.7415d12917f0e514d433ae1c@sohara.org> <20211003102037.7da16f00d478fc1e8d15c443@sohara.org> X-Originating-IP: 10.0.0.200 X-Spam-Report: Action: no action Symbol: ARC_NA(0.00) Symbol: RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00) Symbol: HAS_XOIP(0.00) Symbol: FROM_HAS_DN(0.00) Symbol: TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00) Symbol: BAYES_HAM(-2.92) Symbol: MIME_GOOD(-0.10) Symbol: TO_DN_NONE(0.00) Symbol: RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00) Symbol: RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00) Symbol: FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00) Symbol: MIME_TRACE(0.00) Symbol: RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00) Symbol: MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00) Message-ID: 9066d6906ef93ef4155016792cbe3ce4@smokepit.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMyzy1Khpz4kHn X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smokepit.net:s=loke]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:18.200.56.156]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smokepit.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[smokepit.net,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:18.200.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[84.215.45.183:received] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 22:23:43 -0000 "David Christensen" skrev 3. oktober 2021 kl.= 21:14: > On 10/3/21 02:20, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >=20 >>=20On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:36:51 -0700 David Christensen wrote: >>=20 >>=20The easy option is to have the archive server boot from UFS so that >> it can do things before ZFS starts up. >=20 >=20I ran into the bootpool/ zroot issue when I built a FreeBSD root-on-Z= FS USB flash drive for > maintenance purposes. I saw a few choices: >=20 >=201. Install with UFS, as you suggest. I have done this in the past and= it works. But, ZFS is a > killer feature. I want root-on-ZFS on all of my bootable devices; inclu= ding maintenance USB flash > drives. >=20 >=202. Rename bootpool and zroot on the USB flash drive. I now set a uniq= ue root pool name during > installation, but have not tried renaming bootpool. >=20 >=203. Use the FreeBSD installer USB stick rescue/ live shell. I do this = when I need to get inside an > offline FreeBSD disk. >=20 >=204. Use my Debian maintenance USB flash drive (MBR, ext4). This, plus = an external USB HDD, is how I > take/ restore/ clone OS disk images. Unfortunately, I do not see Debian= packages for GELI or UFS. I > have not tested ZFS compatability between Debian and FreeBSD. >=20 >>>=20Do you have any idea if and what hooks are available during system = boot >>> and ZFS setup? >>=20 >>=20The easiest thing is to use the rc script dependency mechanism to >> do things before zfs gets going. >=20 >=20That sounds like a possibility. >=20 >>=20KISS and UFS[1] I think. >=20 >=20+1 >=20 >=20David I run my backups from a FreeBSD server to a Debian server via SSH and zfs= send | zfs receive. As long as you have the same features enabled on bot= h sides, it works just fine. 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 02:58:11PM -0400, Jerry Seibert wrote: >FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p9 > >I have been using 'git' and 'make fetchindex' for several months >without any problems. Suddenly today, running 'make index' throws this >error message: > >/usr/bin/env fetch -am -o /usr/ports/INDEX-11.bz2 https://www.FreeBSD.org= /ports/INDEX-11.bz2 >Certificate verification failed for /O=3DDigital Signature Trust Co./CN=3D= DST Root CA X3 >34374359624:error:14090086:SSL routines:ssl3_get_server_certificate:certif= icate verify failed:/usr/src/crypto/openssl/ssl/s3_clnt.c:1269: >fetch: https://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/INDEX-11.bz2: Authentication error >Certificate verification failed for /O=3DDigital Signature Trust Co./CN=3D= DST Root CA X3 > >[truncated by me] > >Since I have not made any changes to my system, I can only assume it it >on FreeBSD's side. Please see this thread: https://marc.info/?l=3Dfreebsd-questions&m=3D163301678617012&w=3D2 and this one: https://marc.info/?l=3Dfreebsd-security&m=3D163312865532619&w=3D2 --=20 J. --dY4Xn/JB5Mpd7Nbo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFaSH4ACgkQs8o7QhFz NAXDgw/+KWJoSUhnpT7JSN9/bT6FpfFIr9QEp/CiFY6ShOKczOaDbQZVmDfxr1oy 7Pl55BnpwizK36sAqkZZpCnexufQT/U98OJpJ+yuCay/EmsaB1wAmOf/C22PmSyy 2gGwJna+Nsx98W7ckc0iZHm3hyGVU1t+VrjIFfKOiBji4raTiblcKU4KXa7ssugL 40wki1vZuMbnmth8T3xbM5Q9nGOxKushQfRt9FAmrGQ+8StXk9vanqsg1Dn+Us40 7/LHxkiMmMkkpqWffVxdQg05gi9m9VlfTfbQHOpWnNM7kG/D0SNNnThT34DE8hR3 fpHB9eXP3ctokXeqt4CTPkAS+Rzlk1XX3g2xkmJzE3N2Xnqw2IWVsjpTBzcK/3Z/ 2F7OBIYJLFYH6qixJvgM4Hup5sC8qtxTOsqr+tGyxppinGkSawFL76tkTTiaoXrV zEk13VuhD14uiHCBsPVXMJvOcY1JNRH+Ywd4CRhrHOtawa3S7qkiCbO52CGnXX7z oEjoAiyNSH8dwrub5PHWf1Gn+h/vVwTszaqFUz/JxdEsBwwGcOkfKrjoOCpKDtER AK9At3asvCChRLK7ssEzRjO1xiQAZCYQpRyesS2rVMQ4T65JrdHK8yf6Aqv6jC2A MTn88aF7FoOc3TEaLPY5a5rVnH5S7qMzG2Tyc/2HGlif3LrUfps= =KZnj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dY4Xn/JB5Mpd7Nbo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 4 01:35:12 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EF0673D36 for ; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 08:06:28PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >Michael Warren Lucas is my go-to author for FreeBSD and ZFS: > >https://mwl.io/nonfiction/os > >https://mwl.io/archives/2128 > >https://mwl.io/archives/2140 I've bought the two zfs books now even though they're relatively old, as I'm not planning on using newer zfs stuff yet anyhow. 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MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 06:06:51 -0000 On 10/3/21 15:23, Daniel Lysfjord via freebsd-questions wrote: > "David Christensen" skrev 3. oktober 2021 kl. 21:14: >> I have not tested ZFS compatability between Debian and FreeBSD. > I run my backups from a FreeBSD server to a Debian server via SSH and zfs send | zfs receive. As long as you have the same features enabled on both sides, it works just fine. That's good to know. :-) David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 4 06:08:50 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B6E6772C0 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 06:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HN9Jd3qx3z3kCL for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 06:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1633327724; bh=tAWbD009/OK42CbWwUf3/26VyHTxKaH86kRi0MWy46M=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DLtQr+ZZ5SK+FfjrVKXLtCTVbfcC48t0FOhgOgeUgtgXBwRkzhiHFhTPjy8dk0hYW bMiWsVlZe199H5McFZLBu2Zj9W+Cj1GcVnegbqSWW1HdwkdEJMdJHJJt239FSlp+VC fTGsVG+6jMrR6jgHJrL3CTJ8iqMd1KEgA0lK2rcw6ot3B370ClGK1qvyNbr/9b9QxB cc3YM2qil87Qsvbi++Mf0S1GlFq0i+38oA8YdT2ccAMH954f9qlJFNuETYRVui7y9L ObLfROyeNH45zu1imObqTCL1HPysJ52Qx8uSbqRqWQLuqzOoEhd9D6Ud/Jig7oD3T2 3C4zgbFEbngYvclyoF3w1+tbH0V/LPc/NISku2Zwul3uuKGJR5XGAPidC6CdUoh28M bdioXD4qjsCev8QBEMjoz2FMFsYLVclmvTERnodzRbDRM34sMIA+OrXpyvEW6IB4eJ TH+6fH8ittzjJlZp0JPORPGGvCaId+SH1C/pWgNdTQlgANMzfDZA8meY/NnJHbKuJq PBMqRGOEVgY06eJeYdwQr9A2thTgiayD+Txl1vxv6rVjZlhcjsHujNpD6f82EWeVY8 WOsai1OmSsWRn/lnMsG2YSz96C+ZX9WbLosx654s18S+XgHOFwCKXKYeiWfiGub8a2 RUjgjPcjOdN1YLq79v3LI0Jg= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 23:08:44 -0700 Message-ID: <43cb5345-5c5a-3072-88d7-08cd8bdafdc5@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 23:08:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: zfs q regarding backup strategy Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HN9Jd3qx3z3kCL X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=DLtQr+ZZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:november.he.net:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 06:08:50 -0000 On 10/3/21 18:35, tech-lists wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 08:06:28PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: >> >> Michael Warren Lucas is my go-to author for FreeBSD and ZFS: >> >> https://mwl.io/nonfiction/os >> >> https://mwl.io/archives/2128 >> >> https://mwl.io/archives/2140 > > I've bought the two zfs books now even though they're relatively old, as > I'm not planning on using newer zfs stuff yet anyhow. Thanks for the links. Enjoy. :-) David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 4 07:42:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E0678C96 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 07:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HNCNy052hz3qHn for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 07:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zKylwdDsZWe6MH11NB0AhgaYovl89uvorKI5ZEA37Yk=; b=v+zKe6NzimgmW9Wzl7tfafvI9Q AyiCHj0aCUiR2sl0SJOxU9k2LF0LKP6TzY5tcqJ3H5aylKQwbjBG8JEWGKuxIdJPjKesM0/4eIIbZ qZh/S2fgY1bvXy0hs5zcOOm7BWoAcai6tS7QZRsYq0tM6xA6gdCDt+j5VsvTmjjnX/Y1e3ENcWe+E 5rDb88lottnrFphzSlAC0hYAhxeqtojjQ+DCcN3hBHqqB5YLd0fNpAUSR2lIXSokpovDeb9twYpP1 M7gI58c2BiZQSVPzXKYDgt1OlXnqdJntVFr4EA9Rs4QVZE7dY80pVvCI891uaQTh+NUPmRslix1Dv E8Uz6xWw==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0G031-0010RB-CX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:42:37 +0200 Message-ID: <69f7c781-4cc0-24cd-1e19-2e39dca7e87a@tinka.africa> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 09:42:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HNCNy052hz3qHn X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=v+zKe6Nz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 07:42:42 -0000 On 10/3/21 18:59, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Interesting contrast that ;) > > I use packages and freebsd-update having started with source and > ports back in the 1.1 days and gone through the coff/elf switch. The > convenience and reliability of both of the binary approaches is a delight > compared to some of the nightmares I've encountered over the years. Yeah, I see that packages are quickly becoming more popular. I guess I just love watching things build at my will. I have noticed, though, that there seems to be some delays for binaries to become available after release compared to ports. I'm not sure what the release strategy is as I don't use packages, but I've spoken with friends who are normally a week or two later for the same apps we both use. > It can be done, you can download the packages to a local > repository or use poudriere to maintain your own package repository custom > built from ports with your favourite options. Awesome! Mark. 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To: questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HNCRv4kcKz3qLp X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=jZhEl+A8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=odhiambo@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.975]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 07:45:16 -0000 Hi root@gw:/var/log/exim # freebsd-version -kru 13.0-RELEASE-p4 13.0-RELEASE-p4 13.0-RELEASE-p4 I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its panic.log: 2021-10-01 04:10:58 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) 2021-10-01 04:11:26 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) 2021-10-01 04:11:30 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) 2021-10-01 04:11:35 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging purposes. I have manually compiled the application with the following option: CC=clang -ggdb CXX=clang++ CPP=clang-cpp With the hopes that the binary will then come with debugging symbols. Additionally, I have done the following: mkdir -p /var/coredumps chmod 1777 /var/coredumps Added the following to /etc/sysctl.conf: kern.corefile=/var/coredumps/%U/%N.core kern.coredump=1 And finally: sysctl -w kern.coredump=1 sysctl -w kern.corefile=/var/coredumps/%U/%N.core sysctl -w kern.sugid_coredump=1 (this actually seems to be the default) Is this all that I need to do or am I missing something crucial in this endeavor? Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 4 08:11:52 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED7B679972 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d400069162a3.698f4ff25bc2cf17ada3e7a987cc9c37@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HND2c1nKrz3rtn for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d400069162a3.698f4ff25bc2cf17ada3e7a987cc9c37@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633335112; x=1635927112; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=oOzIC+0BY+XU7CHXQs6DuUU5Jp59WY9BRBC7/jjyU5k=; b=PAcLu97cjXIdECQW9+ICHnturWKKB8VDqeWNCt5bnMnpsHwnHUK5fLGB5OOtKWoXNjoWWKq6yk3hDCvtrYvfS7kcFa6EHweuh6QV5OF9FTZ5BIB1942+cSY8Ttv/Khawxaii/EcWV1E0WLhYatVjTPDpL+/wifU0hw4Kr/o55WE= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkNDAwMDY5MTYyYTMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 4 Oct 2021 04:11:49 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 4 Oct 2021 04:11:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1mXJ4d-0001lI-D6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:11:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 09:11:47 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Message-Id: <20211004091147.95639b11c6f6824c96206ed8@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <69f7c781-4cc0-24cd-1e19-2e39dca7e87a@tinka.africa> References: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> <69f7c781-4cc0-24cd-1e19-2e39dca7e87a@tinka.africa> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HND2c1nKrz3rtn X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=PAcLu97c; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d400069162a3.698f4ff25bc2cf17ada3e7a987cc9c37@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d400069162a3.698f4ff25bc2cf17ada3e7a987cc9c37@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.189.2:received]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d400069162a3.698f4ff25bc2cf17ada3e7a987cc9c37@email-od.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d400069162a3.698f4ff25bc2cf17ada3e7a987cc9c37@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 08:11:53 -0000 On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 09:42:37 +0200 Mark Tinka wrote: > I have noticed, though, that there seems to be some delays for binaries > to become available after release compared to ports. I'm not sure what > the release strategy is as I don't use packages, but I've spoken with > friends who are normally a week or two later for the same apps we both > use. That's probably simply build farm cycle delays. I use the quarterly releases, I've no reason to track the bleeding edge these days so a week or two is of no consequence to me - but yeah that's a reason to favour ports. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 4 08:18:13 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD90679766 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HND9w6lVBz3sMV for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=H4CE0YUulrApc5CICyTLfSPFiSaUiEYxYj6lt/Pv6eU=; b=fAj5387i82qNysLRfNeoExnS9B wUTtafrlwkDrAZ9F+jD0KbPyZYY/mAiRc286z4l0++m/n+Dd8Xj2z31Kayo+LaEiYhtbWszwpeJdf GlGVZEeKX5sWEcX2TIZg46z9X6YgUvvljkOxGlFjMoNNNgi0zJFRJAqjoxHbT9oLzU7aiS/IIJYPd QPIhV5UkE36R5tAwb0IUEDCMGJAcyHA7SDUdj4182gNPeL4g/Y3KB+2XtboO0MEPV0q2qSgPe+v1Z inYnMjMVfrOVVXRIxq8yqCsfqxqWfxRL7LDTVYkGqK0brsWHdm2cupYt3x3aDG+QJ53l5XzFmaw4s BA5TCeRg==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0G1QA-0011AT-4Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:18:10 +0200 Message-ID: <03e9103e-ac21-019b-1733-d0c62e84cec7@tinka.africa> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 10:18:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> <69f7c781-4cc0-24cd-1e19-2e39dca7e87a@tinka.africa> <20211004091147.95639b11c6f6824c96206ed8@sohara.org> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: <20211004091147.95639b11c6f6824c96206ed8@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HND9w6lVBz3sMV X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=fAj5387i; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 08:18:13 -0000 On 10/4/21 10:11, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > That's probably simply build farm cycle delays. I use the quarterly > releases, I've no reason to track the bleeding edge these days so a week or > two is of no consequence to me - but yeah that's a reason to favour ports. Thanks for clarifying. Mark. 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Content-Language: en-US To: questions References: From: Yuri In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HNF6x3xCyz3vD0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=aetern.org header.s=fm1 header.b=JtDIbBdt; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=mcGvKeFT; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yuri@aetern.org designates 66.111.4.26 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yuri@aetern.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[66.111.4.26:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.26]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[aetern.org:+,messagingengine.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.0.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[66.111.4.26:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[aetern.org:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[yuri]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[aetern.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:00:42 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi > > root@gw:/var/log/exim # freebsd-version -kru > 13.0-RELEASE-p4 > 13.0-RELEASE-p4 > 13.0-RELEASE-p4 > > > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its panic.log: > > 2021-10-01 04:10:58 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > 2021-10-01 04:11:26 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > 2021-10-01 04:11:30 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > 2021-10-01 04:11:35 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging > purposes. > > I have manually compiled the application with the following option: > CC=clang -ggdb > CXX=clang++ > CPP=clang-cpp Don't. Use the following knob documented in ports(7) and (somewhat more verbose) in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk: # WITH_DEBUG - If set, debugging flags are added to CFLAGS and the # binaries don't get stripped by INSTALL_PROGRAM or # INSTALL_LIB. Besides, individual ports might # add their specific to produce binaries for debugging # purposes. You can override the debug flags that are # passed to the compiler by setting DEBUG_FLAGS. It is # set to "-g" at default. > With the hopes that the binary will then come with debugging symbols. > > Additionally, I have done the following: > > mkdir -p /var/coredumps > chmod 1777 /var/coredumps > > Added the following to /etc/sysctl.conf: > > kern.corefile=/var/coredumps/%U/%N.core > kern.coredump=1 > > And finally: > > sysctl -w kern.coredump=1 > sysctl -w kern.corefile=/var/coredumps/%U/%N.core > sysctl -w kern.sugid_coredump=1 (this actually seems to be the default) > > Is this all that I need to do or am I missing something crucial in this > endeavor? Never used exim so guessing - you likely need to tell exim to actually dump the core. 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I'm not sure what >the release strategy is as I don't use packages, but I've spoken with >friends who are normally a week or two later for the same apps we both use. Yeah. For this sort of reason I have poudriere build daily for internet-connected systems (these systems have a strict install-what-is-required-only policy to minimise risk) and weekly for systems running behind a firewall and then nat, which have lots of desktop-type software and take a long time to build. I want the very latest and patched software for the directly internet=20 connected machines. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 4 13:39:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F8967EB68 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 13:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from mailout.qeng-ho.org (mailout.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.244]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HNMJm2N7Jz4nMj for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 13:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:64c9:1::2]) by mailout.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00703A1073 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 14:39:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Boot time improvements [Was: Re: boot/shutdown times] From: Arthur Chance To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <0b6bde6f-a27b-134c-8671-f8e5784319ea@qeng-ho.org> Message-ID: <6534df0f-e41e-5b6f-0dc3-32fb5357e415@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 14:39:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0b6bde6f-a27b-134c-8671-f8e5784319ea@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HNMJm2N7Jz4nMj X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.244 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.40)[-0.398]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:39:37 -0000 On 12/09/2021 14:02, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 12/09/2021 14:00, Arthur Chance wrote: >> On 12/09/2021 00:34, Brian Wood wrote: >>> I haven't measured, but it seems like boot and shutdown times >>> have improved over the years, but that they are still a lot slower >>> than Linux. Is there more that can be done to improve these >>> times? Thanks. >> >> I don't know about shutdown times, but Colin Percival has been doing a >> lot of work on boot times lately. Take a look at his recent Twitter feed >> (@cperciva), including entries like this >> >> https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1435719945912868864 >> >> and this >> >> https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1436452578536013828 >> > > [Forgot to copy reply to questions@] > > and also > > https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1434743398489935875 > > https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1435417195505278977 > As a follow up to that, a tweet from Colin (https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1444910673893355525) a few hours ago says "Loader and kernel are around 2.7 seconds now. There's a breakdown of that time on the wiki: https://wiki.freebsd.org/BootTime" That's on an AWS c5.xlarge instance which he's using as a standard. I'm looking forward to seeing this work appearing in RELEASE in the future. -- Nothing teaches one not to try to stamp out burning thermite quite like real-life experience. — James Davis Nicoll From nobody Mon Oct 4 15:12:48 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1872417DDC3F for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HNPNS2LQqz3DJ4 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AF95C0197 for ; 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format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I thought 'git stash' would take care of this but it doesn't. Sometimes a port breaks then a PR is raised and then sometimes someone posts a patch. I'll apply it to my ports tree 'default' in poudriere and build the port. If it builds ok I'll run 'git stash' then 'poudriere ports -u -v' and the ports tree updates. If I don't run 'git stash' the update will fail. But if I try to build the affected port again, after successfully updating the tree, it's as if the patch was never applied. The same sort of thing happens with the usual ports tree (in other words, without poudriere in the equation) I want manually applied patches to remain applied, and I want my ports tree to stay as current as possible. How is this accomplished? thanks, --=20 J. --q6PMoMAiksh3WSPb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFbGecACgkQs8o7QhFz NAXUeg/+JbP9bRArp5WjfO/LhGPyXklulG2+gaApvl4aKF3FdQEDz8/QL+hz+ZZt gLl1o21+0d++qyRLFgwgDRtGBGj25DzgKHmsNY/BULFvV3lE1yVj5RCJQObDH02F vK6Iglz+i9QBHH31S90elpN3oSOSWfjRbCaEp5qAbQpd6v6kJQ0787P7M3wa0LyM pSY9+bkoEu9usztywIROvlph2WpXaTt8PJL9WLuIvLvdF130g0YR/jKzp2QSA0ZF WHBs/uiUtuKqQTXWYE99JxgAxRVOXYj1VbaAjoq4alnYdG9p/WSCNBJjoRutS4nU h/3Jg6wGHPKRugk9JnyktGl8J/kIN8FgeciVct4ex6mnvXuaFKh9Lpy3ySYQ2C+P 1deJTzzvlA8pQr43t4u6lwjg0nOMVkhcLa/brS2VYFoWy8cj9K8wGgZTaBWLOqqQ QZisNzOWtCBHuvelHwircM0A54ZxuB+rq0Cz2tj3W7DGsWx7vxd6f4Kpny9ckXs0 TjPCzgSDs45MLp86M/cJiF2edVooIHOdvBIPB7/2RHGBWAtkQ0lSooUkddgt/vco BMp072wYDDJ9KGebnO5Jd2cQ5luNDmacC99V+t6tb5th2ldsoAQCZfAyp4aqO78V HmdwkHSz3MYowJm4YHAiUiSOAvsaXD3p0eFoh5wdlm9AvN74JnQ= =VM7P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q6PMoMAiksh3WSPb-- From nobody Mon Oct 4 15:42:15 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB7E3EB5A7 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HNQ2K445Mz3HN2 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 52BEA25CD2 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from PD0786.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:2862:ef90:10dd:33c9]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6ECD1D3D3 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/6ECD1D3D3; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: manually patching a port gets overwritten when the tree updates To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <0f95028c-5950-00a2-029b-6ae6bd4ab578@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:42:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 04/10/2021 16:12, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > I thought 'git stash' would take care of this but it doesn't. > > Sometimes a port breaks then a PR is raised and then sometimes someone > posts a patch. I'll apply it to my ports tree 'default' in poudriere and > build the port. If it builds ok I'll run 'git stash' then 'poudriere > ports -u -v' and the ports tree updates. > > If I don't run 'git stash' the update will fail. > > But if I try to build the affected port again, after successfully > updating the tree, it's as if the patch was never applied. The same sort > of thing happens with the usual ports tree (in other words, without > poudriere in the equation) > > I want manually applied patches to remain applied, and I want my ports > tree to stay as current as possible. How is this accomplished? One workflow that should do what you want is: Create a branch to apply the patches to, and commit them locally (ie. something like `git checkout -b new-branch-name`; `git add {patched-files}`; `git commit`). Then whenever you pull updates down against main, you can either merge them to your branch, or rebase your branch to the current tip of main. Otherwise, if you're using 'git stash' that saves your uncommitted changes, and reverts your tree to the last committed state. Which then allows you to pull and update to the latest. But then you have to run `git stash pop` to re-apply your uncommitted changes. Running `git status` and `git diff` before and after `git stash` and `git stash pop` should make it clear what's going on. Cheers, Matthew From nobody Mon Oct 4 16:32:01 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C76A8D2328 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: from bogodyn.org (mail.bogodyn.org [207.224.147.202]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HNR7y0Dk3z3Ndq for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: from bogodyn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bogodyn.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 194GW1jX030709; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 10:32:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: (from russo@localhost) by bogodyn.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 194GW1vB030708; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 10:32:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from russo) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 10:32:01 -0600 From: Tom Russo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: manually patching a port gets overwritten when the tree updates Message-ID: Reply-To: russo@bogodyn.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: International Institute for Advanced Quantum Bogodynamical Studies X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on bogodyn.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HNR7y0Dk3z3Ndq X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of russo@bogodyn.org has no SPF policy when checking 207.224.147.202) smtp.mailfrom=russo@bogodyn.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.10 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[russo@bogodyn.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bogodyn.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:207.224.147.0/24, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 04:12:48PM +0100, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the flavor, containing: > Hi, > > I thought 'git stash' would take care of this but it doesn't. > > Sometimes a port breaks then a PR is raised and then sometimes someone > posts a patch. I'll apply it to my ports tree 'default' in poudriere and > build the port. If it builds ok I'll run 'git stash' then 'poudriere > ports -u -v' and the ports tree updates. Git stash takes all the current changes, records them so they can be reapplied later, and undoes them, leaving the repo in its state prior to your local changes. > If I don't run 'git stash' the update will fail. So stashing your local changes puts the git repo back in the state it was before you changed anything, and the update works. > But if I try to build the affected port again, after successfully > updating the tree, it's as if the patch was never applied. The same sort > of thing happens with the usual ports tree (in other words, without > poudriere in the equation) That is absolutely the correct behavior. Problem is you haven't reapplied the changes out of the stash afterwards. If you do a "git stash list" you'll find that there is a stash entry for every change you stashed. You can "git stash pop" them one at a time to reapply them (this will remove the stash entry at the same time it's reapplied). Think of the stash as a stack where you store changes that won't be committed and pushed to the repo, and where they can be retrieved as needed. You might want to look at https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Stashing-and-Cleaning if you want to understand the stash better. > I want manually applied patches to remain applied, and I want my ports > tree to stay as current as possible. How is this accomplished? Using git stash is a reasonable way to do it, you just have to remember to pop after you update. And later remember to stash all local changes again before you update the tree. Another option is to maintain your local patches on a branch and keep that branch rebased to main. That's what I do to keep around a handful of patches that I know work for me but that haven't yet made it into the main repo because the package maintainer hasn't accepted them yet. That might require more git play than you're interested in. -- Tom Russo KM5VY Tijeras, NM echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m] From nobody Mon Oct 4 17:05:10 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4CA8D6B9F for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HNRt05zPJz3hxm for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80835C01EF for ; 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To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Cc: fernape@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001aada205cd8c34ee" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HNWVy23V4z4ZM5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="jbTjmdW/"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kob6558@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kob6558@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; SUBJECT_HAS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42f:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000001aada205cd8c34ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Just a thank you for getting compiler.mk into the current decade! I think LLVM has supported openmp since aout version 4 and I have patched compile.mk to not use gcc just because of openmp for some time, but I could not get any answer on a couple of mailing lists I've tried as to whether this was a safe thing to do, so did not open a ticket. Guess I just should have done so. In any case, it is now done and the repeated issues of conflicting libraries impacting ports that linked to ImageMagick should never rear their heads again. 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Most people do it backwards by removing from GENERIC. Instead, start with an empty kernel config file, then add in only what you need to run. > https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1444910673893355525 > https://wiki.freebsd.org/BootTime Then there are these good works. Fastest way to boot is to never shutdown ;) From nobody Tue Oct 5 17:54:38 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B261312D5359 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x732.google.com (mail-qk1-x732.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::732]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HP4xK2QRWz3gxf for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x732.google.com with SMTP id m7so3828119qke.8 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 10:55:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9LAJfNA/J+GI7sLeeWVEhcuM6/dzluvXek+kAdz08Cg=; b=M6GnTaOHG4fxbyCPXtv6xsbeYtWXwJcD2Snk3a+DKc/lCmGT8Pzc4KuLmqx3J/s+LS A4OpSSsXR+6MlfHfrHQyHUwpx+AqexdEq/8VoqxhTZNkojaiTudaI+MwZVlk5hBkDAf1 24EtTkLQBO6vY8L6Xk5WKceHvHuv/qWn/IWW4fFVsG/5G24ZE0bdhHKliwHy61N5jdK8 rSbyE6qir+DMl5p39kiFLhBIG87SWRquS8brJbWM4dfEM1Ieo4VOi+sj5ua7AJHKkSm/ /5z7LBZkMYmPsAV67AuhkMjFbCeJViNOw4eqEDoHO1gBGBqvNU0in429mojfQb8zhuU3 sYRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9LAJfNA/J+GI7sLeeWVEhcuM6/dzluvXek+kAdz08Cg=; b=3TfwRW3SDbO3PxsBVKA/gh1UTmrrLiJ93pJ2kdY5JX/yeUPXZtEFc3Qft2Ejzf3FXI QyZ4nKhghsYDHkdoZij4V6Ri7UFL6158to6b1BfjZzmBbW7IM406QhmbwxJ4lbVB20RF hwDJrlrGI80GLUbAczWs4XczNE77VKn5T8kOOM+9bKoqzqemrh4jC/iH8zy791SW1fIZ Nk0a5E0SWTTICfo1rlrj6jmhqUJrSpiRUAD6L8/CwIdS2Wz3j4o/eQiK8CHhHDb8xvg8 HdrJBi5d3hbjS8v7ZI7fXe5JCyhtZNoOviNYjcjhziSymFHRHJMdzhQKKjrRZ6367Lej xSBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5327J33ZtOUGt64+NVfy5YjGhLA9MfQSy2YoUXZI3U7xxSwuP6Db bns8TjH5QyyVVlrNEFYs1+anLq7Shgm77JBOoNT7dLiAMm7bmw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxw4UVmX1nqH3vtLRrjrqc9NhxNs63ES7SZUN3Lu6CNmM4702LJ/COKZW9A8dIM7bbjKRps0a3yS/EXA9mUqC4= X-Received: by 2002:a37:946:: with SMTP id 67mr15805443qkj.473.1633456516715; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 10:55:16 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 20:54:38 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? To: Yuri Cc: questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006f59f905cd9ebb01" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HP4xK2QRWz3gxf X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=M6GnTaOH; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::732 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=odhiambo@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::732:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.38)[-0.384]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000006f59f905cd9ebb01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:01 PM Yuri wrote: > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hi > > > > root@gw:/var/log/exim # freebsd-version -kru > > 13.0-RELEASE-p4 > > 13.0-RELEASE-p4 > > 13.0-RELEASE-p4 > > > > > > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its > panic.log: > > > > 2021-10-01 04:10:58 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > 2021-10-01 04:11:26 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > 2021-10-01 04:11:30 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > 2021-10-01 04:11:35 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > > > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging > > purposes. > > > > I have manually compiled the application with the following option: > > CC=clang -ggdb > > CXX=clang++ > > CPP=clang-cpp > > Don't. > > Use the following knob documented in ports(7) and (somewhat more > verbose) in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk: > > Hello Yuri, I am not using the port. I am doing a manual compile for a version that has not yet hit the ports. > # WITH_DEBUG - If set, debugging flags are added to CFLAGS and the > # binaries don't get stripped by INSTALL_PROGRAM or > # INSTALL_LIB. Besides, individual ports might > # add their specific to produce binaries for debugging > # purposes. You can override the debug flags that are > # passed to the compiler by setting DEBUG_FLAGS. It is > # set to "-g" at default. > > > > With the hopes that the binary will then come with debugging symbols. > > > > Additionally, I have done the following: > > > > mkdir -p /var/coredumps > > chmod 1777 /var/coredumps > > > > Added the following to /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > > kern.corefile=/var/coredumps/%U/%N.core > > kern.coredump=1 > > > > And finally: > > > > sysctl -w kern.coredump=1 > > sysctl -w kern.corefile=/var/coredumps/%U/%N.core > > sysctl -w kern.sugid_coredump=1 (this actually seems to be the default) > > > > Is this all that I need to do or am I missing something crucial in this > > endeavor? > > Never used exim so guessing - you likely need to tell exim to actually > dump the core. > That's exactly what I want, but don't know how to do. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' :-) --0000000000006f59f905cd9ebb01-- From nobody Tue Oct 5 19:55:14 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45A59F7396 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 19:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HP7bt4nz3z4tVq for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 19:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-96-230-243-2.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [96.230.243.2]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4HP7bm5Tv8z3pts for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 15:55:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1633463716; bh=FU43VAmeF2bVHyCKLYKaNSbJ3WCPY1ablcRupDdRObQ=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Ad7gZT57Kmmo7jdDs4o74wXwhiXMVYXS2ItY6/JQibEo7mCq0+hB67vIhIQ/VCYDY c1+aF70lBsB9hen1eZrAhTMsqhg6FvnuSrCHO1GrtortwfYcLapLL2i8D0OIOfqQ/u dU7BZgyP0V4Q9fmS3pvMYeKEX0R1ZSmVZWePr53g= Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 15:55:14 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HP7bt4nz3z4tVq X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=panix.com header.s=panix header.b=Ad7gZT57; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[166.84.1.89:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.1.64/26]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[panix.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[96.230.243.2:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[panix.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[panix.com:s=panix]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[166.84.1.89:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2021/10/04 03:44, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its panic.log: > > 2021-10-01 04:10:58 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > 2021-10-01 04:11:26 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > 2021-10-01 04:11:30 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > 2021-10-01 04:11:35 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging > purposes. Is that a file named "panic.log" that's written by Exim itself? The default action for SIGSEGV is for the kernel to write the coredump file and end the process. If Exim receives that signal, logs it, and keeps running, Exim must handle the signal itself. Have you checked Exim's documentation about this? 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To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HP8V263WLz3KGc X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=KoZeOuyX; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::c35) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::c35:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:45 AM Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its panic.log: > (...) > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging > purposes. Have you tried running your application under gdb / lldb? That may help you tracing the problem on a live application, you can backtrace after crash to see where problem occurred, you can set breakpoint before problem happens and step by step see why problem occurs, just remember to compile application in debug mode with debug symbols enabled so you will trace source code not the assembly :-) Here is some stuff that may help: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-enable-system-daemons-core-dumps.76500/ https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=dtrace&sektion=1&manpath=freebsd-release-ports https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=core&sektion=5&manpath=freebsd-release-ports https://wiki.freebsd.org/lldb https://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/ https://www.cs.umd.edu/~srhuang/teaching/cmsc212/gdb-tutorial-handout.pdf -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From nobody Tue Oct 5 21:27:24 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E46912D5E04 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 21:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sarkis@samigo-trade.com) Received: from dmg0.samigo-trade.com (dmg0.samigo-trade.com [157.245.147.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HP9fM1Z5Fz3Qyb for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 21:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sarkis@samigo-trade.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=default; d=samigo-trade.com; h=Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; i=sarkis@samigo-trade.com; bh=JDQ872rzqwNLZ//kPA1tloNGHCk=; b=lwnHTAhDAABYqC4HUV/2LvnlnSMLjdi0bpKVy1UDg5KoS8kuNa/44OjixryD53j0A3NFpbiRwT6M TVrJo8Y2khDG/c2Qz8sZR8roG5iDPNkUnrsKpxYIKgIneULqDMk4ntD2UqQw7Z4tESr4OhgR7pHR cyfERytei6ndGr6JIEE= Reply-To: Sarkis El Raidy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Order SEP-2021 No.23221 Date: 5 Oct 2021 14:27:24 -0700 Message-ID: <20211005142724.5AC6C5D1761F2E77@samigo-trade.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HP9fM1Z5Fz3Qyb X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=samigo-trade.com header.s=default header.b=lwnHTAhD; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=samigo-trade.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sarkis@samigo-trade.com designates 157.245.147.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sarkis@samigo-trade.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[sarkis@metrekaredekor.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[samigo-trade.com:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:c]; REPLYTO_DN_EQ_FROM_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.70)[-0.698]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.54)[0.536]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MANY_INVISIBLE_PARTS(0.20)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[samigo-trade.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[samigo-trade.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.53)[-0.531]; MIME_HTML_ONLY(0.20)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:157.245.144.0/20, country:US]; HAS_DATA_URI(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] Reply-To: sarkis@samigo-trade.com From: Sarkis El Raidy via freebsd-questions X-Original-From: Sarkis El Raidy X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y

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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo folks, Last night, I decide to restart my server but something was happened, I=20 failed to SSH my box. Here, I describe a bit information. # uname -srmK FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 1300139 # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ada0p2 222G 3.7G 200G 2% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ada0p1 256M 1.7M 254M 1% /boot/efi # dmesg ---<>--- Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved= =2E FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Aug 24 07:33:27 UTC 2021 =20 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENER= IC=20 amd64 FreeBSD clang version 11.0.1 (git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git=20 llvmorg-11.0.1-0-g43ff75f2c3fe) VT(efifb): resolution 800x600 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1220 v3 @ 3.10GHz (3092.91-MHz K8-class CPU)= Origin=3D"GenuineIntel" Id=3D0x306c3 Family=3D0x6 Model=3D0x3c Ste= pping=3D3 =20 Features=3D0xbfebfbff =20 Features2=3D0x7ffafbff AMD Features=3D0x2c100800 AMD Features2=3D0x21 Structured Extended=20 Features=3D0x27ab XSAVE Features=3D0x1 VT-x: (disabled in BIOS) PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory =3D 17179869184 (16384 MB) avail memory =3D 16551342080 (15784 MB) --- cut --- # smartctl -i /dev/ada0 smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64] (local buil= d) Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.o= rg =3D=3D=3D START OF INFORMATION SECTION =3D=3D=3D Device Model: Samsung SSD 870 EVO 250GB Serial Number: S6P2NF0R556085D LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 f4158216f Firmware Version: SVT01B6Q User Capacity: 250,059,350,016 bytes [250 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Rotation Rate: Solid State Device Form Factor: 2.5 inches TRIM Command: Available, deterministic, zeroed Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: ACS-4 T13/BSR INCITS 529 revision 5 SATA Version is: SATA 3.3, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Wed Oct 6 10:31:53 2021 WIB SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled I try to capture boot failure through photo from remote worker (I attach = too for more clear). --- cut --- Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... Start @ 0xffffffff8037c000 ... 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To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: User Questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ee5bf305cdabe8ea" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HPTss2hS4z4h8d X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000ee5bf305cdabe8ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 10:56 PM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2021/10/04 03:44, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its > panic.log: > > > > 2021-10-01 04:10:58 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > 2021-10-01 04:11:26 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > 2021-10-01 04:11:30 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > 2021-10-01 04:11:35 SIGSEGV (maybe attempt to write to immutable memory) > > > > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging > > purposes. > > Is that a file named "panic.log" that's written by Exim itself? > Yes > The default action for SIGSEGV is for the kernel to write the coredump > file and end the process. If Exim receives that signal, logs it, and > keeps running, Exim must handle the signal itself. > Okay. > Have you checked Exim's documentation about this? > Yes, I have. And an Exim developer has given me this task - to get Exim to create dump. I quote him below: *Arranging one is hard as Exim is setuid. I've not tried **on a BSD, but Linux requires some deliberate relaxation of security* *restrictions (setuid programs are carrying sensitive info; a **dump file has that info, leaving dump files with such info* *lying around is obviously a major risk...)* *Enable setuid coredumps (NOTE: not recommended for longterm **use. Core files will contain credentials and personally-identifying* *information. Leaving them lying around will eventually result in **a leak).* *Build exim without compiler optimisation ( -O0 ) and with debugger **symbols (for clang: -ggdb, -glldb, -gsce, -gdbx depending on your debugger ).* *clang docs: https://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html * *Run until you get a coredump. Get the stacktrace from that.* And I was hoping that the actions I took with regard to sysctl.conf would help achieve that. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' :-) --000000000000ee5bf305cdabe8ea-- From nobody Wed Oct 6 09:45:47 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA9512B976E for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x734.google.com (mail-qk1-x734.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::734]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HPV2q2jHPz4jTZ for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x734.google.com with SMTP id x12so1795144qkf.9 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 02:46:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rKwSn+0xTsKtMFP0bwwziD2ptoroejNvUfjkBKTW/1I=; b=WKwb3sKQTYIqC1OrFNtZB15o6Uut7P5QY+dx5mSFCXq+jNbUDtDcJd1G/wq39RKcSh HRDZFqPkAUs7RjZQt/w6klG8PTsPrFp4f4QqTlbR1lX/Bu70gYJO8ZHGYrcS2bFSW0kQ WqcacbySpqehQLIZ1vtuwdJvsCMvqDxlbVq4gkIulAXPp/QxXMPkRa7iBH30ihEti91X 0jFcLHaefS3EgH7Nn40i+eYVcLka6r/+DXT9F5EYH6upJ/MhKrnVrqdFaweoxepNJoz8 czIjMyBCxuXYCoujcgvxgeVstm17r4ZQ/W1BHM/iMZrBedrWuhszTtroNxMB3fBmupwQ fUkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rKwSn+0xTsKtMFP0bwwziD2ptoroejNvUfjkBKTW/1I=; b=dTCEpXEwSWWV0n2/GrpXIH5M9x0mx0KQh5FqAF2KmHzK9ibgNi1Xd5ahdolY0d2ORL FtQTbZKXZXWHc4LDPuOtnpDVAcoRIwxVVLq2hf0WonEG5WSn1LYLBWy+dGtJk9l37NnO N4zhl/2qIMzwFkAwKGy6YClFNwLbvM0dzdgLhQ0PCPlWs+LtHorCd82DHWIJqsQuoXtw UwFJxvLgc/3AewR4y64/uJ6j//lL/ePRTFXq15HuuXrl0cHaZDka3lA6n/97SWPBpqT5 QSUCHJvlG7eqoeWOvQ7uAaSQs5JE/qZjhK3Rb6RxxxYFxrX56vjabn0w1PRcs7CnqmJR 3oDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532QAfK/8EDYII/8tL0s1n7k/r/r7LDQiFyk61GA7cbSOAnFf5zs VeHjLOITxun17A3o9EL/Cnn40VTxrpKMxU27923B74LQPAiRLw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzND1iy+bqRQxsikkbp0qXY7vFRh1LY64d2njvoZ14oMavg5hoS1us4zJJEPjU/6/SQmMjkKInt8S2OdT5n/ew= X-Received: by 2002:a37:a6d8:: with SMTP id p207mr18545961qke.257.1633513586742; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 02:46:26 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:45:47 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000012d7aa05cdac05f9" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HPV2q2jHPz4jTZ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000012d7aa05cdac05f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:35 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:45 AM Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its > panic.log: > > (...) > > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging > > purposes. > > Have you tried running your application under gdb / lldb? Nope. Seems rather involving, no? > That may help you tracing the problem on a live application, you can > backtrace > after crash to see where problem occurred, you can set breakpoint > before problem happens and step by step see why problem occurs, just > remember to compile application in debug mode with debug symbols > enabled so you will trace source code not the assembly :-) > > Here is some stuff that may help: > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-enable-system-daemons-core-dumps.76500/ > > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=dtrace&sektion=1&manpath=freebsd-release-ports > > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=core&sektion=5&manpath=freebsd-release-ports > https://wiki.freebsd.org/lldb > https://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/ > https://www.cs.umd.edu/~srhuang/teaching/cmsc212/gdb-tutorial-handout.pdf Thanks. I have gone through these, bar for the lldb option. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' :-) --00000000000012d7aa05cdac05f9-- From nobody Wed Oct 6 13:59:42 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CF017E5918 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 14:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-oi1-x22c.google.com (mail-oi1-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HPbh23cnwz3QDH for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 14:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-oi1-x22c.google.com with SMTP id v10so4072229oic.12 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 07:00:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TLkar7TlLVOqq1WewPTk3I+ggFz90byznCTXctbwIwk=; b=DGOOZRyoWq7WVrH/QTH0ZlCt/1D9PsyDIynhEp50C12pyIJxtaIfpUc34fLtwk8FNX AqXmFoCu5VyocJKDagVPtr2iQm29R5GyR29ECjMRe2cr82JwdHGlgtRupIFVrXlxcOao Wms/g8l2NA6Kh1PteLS+AZebYjkDF+LzeM1Q2Hy6iYU0YViSXVPUawk9Nqa9eyJVTKQt wTP1G3gY+tWd1yDm1rG22682aDBZeeIAYSUGA1ftU0RWyDgyJVS/SDQTPGnTWdIUj3Km wX+d91x4S7XSe4U/ErNjAGTfwGyWJI5hX+3xwPs63tbJGtVCEKdzIKLdjHuJ+zUMuDuT xBkg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TLkar7TlLVOqq1WewPTk3I+ggFz90byznCTXctbwIwk=; b=60mI5RFktA7XDOQoOz4N+9ZhkOk9dWSxRWU9x2oiPXWt5NQ5Lby8yD2mPjWYvJjtV5 jRT8ej/Xb9EA4NmF4EkqKeQ1hf6eiphCGJqyaEpPiWCLJbntKzwMZq++9Nf1Hws+30aw 54b3c1+fLNflaXItO1mYjY7/+b703XycvK4+hqxFOSe9WABznhQVWGNmeDORJJcwih2s ExIoyNda6DST56zgHETrbBNGLRlWb/jAHo9tpO72vgUO6Yvuwkl+wI/bpgpqDK4kNLuv msm2oBjLVap/Uo2pa3Yn8AdGaFcogpGvcMRNq5pK3qpnnKdfDeM1Dq6ICe5rnGGCr0tC esCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5307wrzvAbnXtYfDb/bYdnRBxcZnuemdVTeBH5TgpOAL3pG1qIss 8H30Wuk8vEFo4p4XFHMsT6ZOFSDMagWlB0wSP7jagYaq6Bk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyRKHa+1C67KZLzKGL928KG2xsRndEfBs8vXUtq/LDHEdCU3bXsUyNzhk64epgiR70YZZ2me49lecD0UXRnJb0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1910:: with SMTP id bf16mr7460851oib.43.1633528833417; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 07:00:33 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:59:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HPbh23cnwz3QDH X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:46 AM Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:35 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:45 AM Odhiambo Washington wrote: >> > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its panic.log: >> > (...) >> > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for debugging >> > purposes. >> >> Have you tried running your application under gdb / lldb? > > Nope. Seems rather involving, no? To read / analyze a core dump you need to use debugger anyway :-) Question is what you will do with the core dump file, if you want to send it to someone for analysis then you do not need a debugger just enable core dump and configure application so it dumps on crash, if you want to analyze coredump yourself then you will have to use debugger anyway :-) Having a core dump is like having a "static" postmortem snapshot of the application, you cannot do a lot except you perfectly know the application internals already or you can guess what the problem is based on backtrace from a generated core dump. Running application under debugger will bring you to the same point except you are having control over live application, so you can see where problem occurred, put a breakpoint in a problematic function, restart application, then step by step track the problem cause leading to fix that you can verify at hand straight away yourself :-) Its not that hard with open source and skillset comes handy in various situations :-) Have fun! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From nobody Wed Oct 6 15:56:19 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E7C12BB5A2 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oconnor@crystal.harvard.edu) Received: from mail-pj1-x102e.google.com (mail-pj1-x102e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HPfFq3yHMz3sjV for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oconnor@crystal.harvard.edu) Received: by mail-pj1-x102e.google.com with SMTP id np13so2531613pjb.4 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 08:56:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crystal-harvard-edu.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=qz+Oezi7D6V0i87K3P9lBzXlSJ6B5C+8pxz3wYYuRGE=; b=K4RpCsPaJ097k39ojeENKdREbDyCPeJBu6J7kVxSctDuBudUU7L2vLjgMtc7jWKt8q u19/T2vrfn67QjSM+OKAV+NhFlYtOt6NfRWvuxfvk0pekW69WOxGVcXmZUEq3PMH5JXp mhNYvuCt7wuf3j9ZHKkPHUBh2nHcHCcnnOeWSEVepua2OzQhIND7ACfBPyDCXmaxMWUl vilO/E5InvgLe9hENpdzSGjeuxuCuWGV0IHTf3U+kXywGOImHU4Y8PIvB+U8kdwNESNc DFqMlDCvTf7jJVcFx5ziThZ4JrFNi/QHuk8mzuElyBPSRA8ZS54IQpuXSmFBudpMhZhY iORA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=qz+Oezi7D6V0i87K3P9lBzXlSJ6B5C+8pxz3wYYuRGE=; b=C267lN0qUecocggtdSgqRL9IAYRd6W0GB39D5sTqfSbAsXJEsADv6AOTQj8fqLnJkU Bp4l6ajlzJoZL4b7J5A6Ih4oa3y8Un3zPmp+/6PpKistBYORGQLR4zdpCCmRHCAbWfCw Wg8UG1tQHdq+53KQzBp2wC5tU9IjAqnTbL0j6R/WYdwlWM6KiiDWg41h5dBkLd74Jtdk ZK60OYfoLabLS8Cl07sOZSUoqfK/8scDXtx3nIrGQvZk2bhQcb5Axwl7HKbI4erND+WG haRZ4E8sfXwHj+yzpJE8W831ezrZwrvZ+T0PFk1fcumcNRkdraI0luNUDFF/9vBLG0Vi mqqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533baJvd9LtxTPdoGUhV/TwPAF947HNYqzY7dqo5e5SxJD8VvBCY EKBc+nZnlmYRNcePIPxgBNUKhplMKk2PMlSoZrlIw9Srtwo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw99/nhKwgn/2UdMV4LRklsIDyQYzg9k6MqQhCWqMajISPT/H8vStKURCOxvsn9qUsiT6W/I0Wg8r65xqwPoKY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:aa14:: with SMTP id k20mr11717550pjq.88.1633535790415; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 08:56:30 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Justin O'Connor" Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:56:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: not getting to bootloader screen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000084196b05cdb13052" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HPfFq3yHMz3sjV X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=crystal-harvard-edu.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=K4RpCsPa; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of oconnor@crystal.harvard.edu designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=oconnor@crystal.harvard.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[crystal-harvard-edu.20210112.gappssmtp.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[harvard.edu]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.982]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[crystal-harvard-edu.20210112.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000084196b05cdb13052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi list, We have a system that will enumerate a list of disks and stops at "can not get information about disk unit" then it will be disk like 0xaa. The boot loader screen never comes up. An example - ... ... BIOS drive n: is disk43 BIOS drive 0: is disk44 BIOS drive p: is disk45 BIOS drive q: is disk46 can not get information about disk unit 0xaf / We are trying to upgrade a server and opted to install on OS some alternate SSD's and swap the disks to minimize downtime. System boot with 11.x OS disks installed. In the system there is an 3108 raid card with many disks, a few nvme's, then the boot disks are a pair of sata disks on a gmirror. Changing around loader.conf options for mfi/mrsas have no effect. We have an alternate mfsbsd netboot with 13.0-RELEASE and the same issue netbooting. We have a replica system (with minor differences in sas settings) that boots fine with the same netboot image. Looking at the system booted 11.x system and not finding any logs that might indicate a hardware issue. Ideas? Justin --00000000000084196b05cdb13052-- From nobody Wed Oct 6 19:05:23 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E40112DE8B3 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 19:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HPkSb1Y5jz4dHy for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 19:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id e16so3689274qte.13 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 12:06:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nbZFpGFeCvQAWYAcfTMo6LuJ9vfVJuQq5HDEAUgo6bM=; b=EtZRGKZ3OvVhFg3SXFE7mrujaP6J94Dr37fsZLejAA6OZDwcWrpREuIQrsKw4u/0dm l8HDzRg/pxPnHeztAy8KXqiFHRVX4SI8McDG8+EFa4ynK1uXK4LjGwDooLIIeuU32msR 2bP18T3+sKC7d8tc/qtfDI34QW34Ik72JmhHGxFsXFBEddpT3REGdmds8Yq+RnBJ6NqE fak+kuqZayUs9OgXDJHQOegXZqPOfLY4WC7PMHvAS7vfzTaDd5crxcddrZRSZoGB040X oYuRvNy43SZVOJBb08picqKrjWvEaZgYlOu7ozGbJF8bGWLR2kMKUMbS4WMmAXyMEANb EhKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nbZFpGFeCvQAWYAcfTMo6LuJ9vfVJuQq5HDEAUgo6bM=; b=qqFx5VbMvdmZmVzZDn1ubVLvYOo+a5XM5uET1o+Ujo2fO1JG8LpAl4vhUot+hexS24 39ow0Yfex8+JHXj8aqjgujRHA59bORij2MRKI9U1TAioq20j0MhszQNxDL26LF3AXfLj DebKMElUrZ5gcnd3ZnOPriV7HHjHHZOnJSfRGh+zrr5Clb7QFY86RX3kTkoKduffyeiM pSwH5iCuOTETOUc680w93f95hh4DJ+fULAChwz2KG4iKXOKlWSYiLwLWbuJlvuNHNQA2 Tld08E/36IF4NfKBiAcma2F33eOKMdSPg0e45tSbvYm98moIsWvhPyLqzYlc0Hyq1Bti iBuA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532I1IeWh2WcODGwxJdCYJkpXNJSCICWa/qAR74J+AQoeP9KDFt3 E1+tECiKC4H3qVDj2lNjKiQ4ZSxi7KoV0d933PM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxltHmoHfAg/R6KHP00c735zerWxW1a3Ekv+f1mKUtCYNLp3B6Y9sdKFPiPXZY7TGOyDn/VLiE3hIpOtBxYMHU= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:7594:: with SMTP id s20mr528780qtq.158.1633547160857; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 12:06:00 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 22:05:23 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003f302805cdb3d69b" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HPkSb1Y5jz4dHy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000003f302805cdb3d69b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 5:00 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:46 AM Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:35 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:45 AM Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >> > I have my MTA (Exim) crushing, with the following message in its > panic.log: > >> > (...) > >> > I need to obtain a coredump file from the crashing process for > debugging > >> > purposes. > >> > >> Have you tried running your application under gdb / lldb? > > > > Nope. Seems rather involving, no? > > To read / analyze a core dump you need to use debugger anyway :-) > I know how to do that. How to analyze a coredump. Question is what you will do with the core dump file, if you want to > send it to someone for analysis then you do not need a debugger just > enable core dump and configure application so it dumps on crash,. That is the only thing I need help with. The rest I am capable of handling. > if you want to analyze coredump yourself then you will have to use > debugger anyway :-) > > Having a core dump is like having a "static" postmortem snapshot of > the application, you cannot do a lot except you perfectly know the > application internals already or you can guess what the problem is > based on backtrace from a generated core dump. > > Running application under debugger will bring you to the same point > except you are having control over live application, so you can see > where problem occurred, put a breakpoint in a problematic function, > restart application, then step by step track the problem cause leading > to fix that you can verify at hand straight away yourself :-) > > Its not that hard with open source and skillset comes handy in various > situations :-) > > Have fun! :-) > > Thanks for your time looking into this. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' :-) --0000000000003f302805cdb3d69b-- From nobody Wed Oct 6 19:09:01 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392BC12DFBBD for ; 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Thu, 07 Oct 2021 07:10:37 +0700 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 08:10:34 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Justin O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: not getting to bootloader screen Message-ID: <20211007001034.055b41e5.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> In-Reply-To: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com X-Originating-IP: 153.92.8.106 X-Spampanel-Domain: out.niagahoster.com X-Spampanel-Username: niaga X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Class: unsure X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.15) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: Pt3MvcO5N4iKaDQ5O6lkdGlMVN6RH8bjRMzItlySaT9WLQux0N3HQm8ltz8rnu+BPUtbdvnXkggZ 3YnVId/Y5jcf0yeVQAvfjHznO7+bT5zTYuco8DT77pkKO2RTj8CTsrPJPKZrsAj/Wjc1RNnrY4WQ BhnhmOqtw8Ts9xdabwHlGZflZ13PbuB5BzC23dkUTpIc3rENCXUMzqB0O6fundGBD8Qgy/abtV8W i/xCMZRRmr33+/45aun5JjuJK55rGIlpV+OGuACx+PbEzE+H6LMwcEc3vNONPjeXjGqV6cW4enem HRhxRFWDRcsNIfc+AqonbeWow94g0KE/sln1+NywSjFqdk1zSh7NJJUqY7xSn96kdeVV1cRVDWxY SIDimdySlZou9qHIGOZDEEo7OwHXl4wgwTqJlTT/fetzilP1n0IyE1Hl7DbyQzX/zn4f268ZzQC7 uo3/eH4wn9OEbAHM+kxWPnVdHuAHFIr8WbVe4NVbVEBU/8Tv9RjL1Pyu7VOyxlvrmFu7mKsnjCD7 Gy+EBctHgf4rD/N3vbhyxAXh0zyP68ySEW4aLV9ERAousBFGkeGUZ3vpwjd8HZATPUKTLGc+44JR fuGjIxKm9mvbib2JMLAaEVsKqNXKjluD1CZXln7VLpZGwtdg3IojlAEMt1kaFoYyeAAUaeLKUwSr B/1sxO/FgfuiyiZJOMFg7pDct2AluUzApvbyD15o2AxiqoOykfd6f+i6R5PoalQYopARZAe4U2GY gGftqooIdu5jb/M316+qYxhRsU5ezkx4Su2gRAJ4gdRXumzmJVXev7R5gLj25cxY39MfuDbv1+io Hz/xzJPYsoK9DmBncpE2QAQRPOB84MmsDrk3yRl9ZRfOx17ZAdby4uB/Yqjb3ej2VJ9OyVyX1Hdv EmEv566iVfIgCfc95kShqpRX5yY9kMb1P6tuxIGXBatz63PQAg5pLPxlsk+Mbe10HwfZeyCFRiwD n8j3yWGHtM7wdRqlHA16mjJ0S2N6v15623Gus6kP3jGd7CO5N8uhCh/UBfR3EKoZFA88ZHu+aplC tA5knRDjH7QY7Fm+gQ0M40rBN6mgRXwmhaF+5Wzan3Zps7vaOe0h928vZYOQJUU9CgfQiIgUyUhd zhDIpnxx4yu2 X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine10.antispamcloud.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HPsDF6wkjz4TKD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi, On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:56:19 -0400 "Justin O'Connor" wrote: > Hi list, > > We have a system that will enumerate a list of disks and stops at > "can not get information about disk unit" then it will be disk like > 0xaa. The boot loader screen never comes up. > > An example - > ... > ... > BIOS drive n: is disk43 > BIOS drive 0: is disk44 > BIOS drive p: is disk45 > BIOS drive q: is disk46 > can not get information about disk unit 0xaf > / > \ from distance it looks like that you have not written the master boot record (MBR) to the disk. Erich > We are trying to upgrade a server and opted to install on OS some > alternate SSD's and swap the disks to minimize downtime. System boot > with 11.x OS disks installed. In the system there is an 3108 raid > card with many disks, a few nvme's, then the boot disks are a pair of > sata disks on a gmirror. Changing around loader.conf options for > mfi/mrsas have no effect. We have an alternate mfsbsd netboot with > 13.0-RELEASE and the same issue netbooting. We have a replica system > (with minor differences in sas settings) that boots fine with the > same netboot image. > > Looking at the system booted 11.x system and not finding any logs that > might indicate a hardware issue. > > Ideas? > > Justin From nobody Thu Oct 7 03:08:02 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E9A12DA6B3 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 03:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HPx8y1FFHz4mMK for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 03:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-96-230-243-2.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [96.230.243.2]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4HPx8q04qNz3mbW for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:08:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1633576091; bh=A12OEFWtPcovwJt/R0+CJKqoVseB05k/WzU0GAmwLCI=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=RFHbzeq3GjjxSy5cZsehRn6XlR9FQOkB8WShqNCYs4TB85eKWaK+4VS0Zt9zj1S3P kPVgGt1YAmOiFSFMF850gE2SHkzXO63AXHCG3Dt5SuMMEsfrnjiZagpRfc7WDzNr38 qv/h0yesq+yE0yW4zY5Id58DzIZWySi+w181EekI= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:08:02 -0400 From: Kurt Hackenberg To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? 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I've not tried **on a BSD, but >Linux requires some deliberate relaxation of security* You said you've already set the sysctl kern.sugid_coredump. That developer seems to have missed that, apparently, Exim catches the signal SIGSEGV, which means that signal will never cause a coredump. You could confirm that Exim catches that signal by searching the source code for calls to signal() or sigaction(), or for "SIGSEGV", or for the log string "maybe attempt to write to immutable memory". If Exim catches that signal, then the only way to get a coredump is to make Exim not catch that signal -- that is, temporarily remove the call to signal() or sigaction(). See the man pages signal(3) and sigaction(2). Attached are two small sample programs that demonstrate a segmentation violation without and with catching the signal. When the signal is not caught, the OS writes a coredump file; when the signal is caught, no coredump is produced. --GRouKV0dixOUsezT Content-Type: text/x-csrc; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="segv.c" /* cause SIGSEGV (segmentation violation) by using an invalid address */ int main(int argc, char *argv[], char *envp[]) { int *badptr = (int *)(~0UL); *badptr = 0; return 0; } --GRouKV0dixOUsezT Content-Type: text/x-csrc; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="catch_segv.c" /* Demonstrate how to catch SIGSEGV (segmentation violation, bad address). */ #include #include #include static void sighdlr(int sig) { printf("SIGSEGV\n"); exit(0); } int main(int argc, char *argv[], char *envp[]) { int *badptr = (int *)(~0UL); /* invalid address */ if (signal(SIGSEGV, sighdlr) != SIG_ERR) *badptr = 0; /* do the bad thing */ else perror("signal()"); return 0; } --GRouKV0dixOUsezT-- From nobody Thu Oct 7 05:29:41 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992B017EAFBC for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 05:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d4000703b551.8b4d9a08df878df208ad40f34e944d04@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQ0JN40qtz3J0Z for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 05:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d4000703b551.8b4d9a08df878df208ad40f34e944d04@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633584597; x=1636176597; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=n0Bikd+gJAvL14rcfZP8Ki2SK/5/FzHCXdubrZ+h7xA=; b=l7Jg9xjx31KbkPNiMmNXv2t7odTCnQE+eQ6CRNxn7sWZFiQC5rtqRKm0d2NxbFe8Urx+iKtxC/6mjt8tMNtebQEo0+FuBX6bIIqu3l7qv7RPMsIHBlJ+xPgKTxE+z1LHJaIKMy8N1Bg/LWFrK8NTVhEmhZSSjhDq6SOewzN4gU8= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkNDAwMDcwM2I1NTEucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 01:29:48 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 7 Oct 2021 01:29:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1mYLyP-0004Jy-Gq for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 06:29:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 06:29:41 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? Message-Id: <20211007062941.bf0f53fa571b041064a6d931@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQ0JN40qtz3J0Z X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=l7Jg9xjx; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d4000703b551.8b4d9a08df878df208ad40f34e944d04@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d4000703b551.8b4d9a08df878df208ad40f34e944d04@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d4000703b551.8b4d9a08df878df208ad40f34e944d04@email-od.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d4000703b551.8b4d9a08df878df208ad40f34e944d04@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:08:02 -0400 Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > If Exim catches that signal, then the only way to get a coredump is to > make Exim not catch that signal -- that is, temporarily remove the > call to signal() or sigaction(). There are a number of signals you can send to cause a core dump SIGABORT usually works, SIGFPE is almost never caught. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From nobody Thu Oct 7 07:28:28 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C662E12D222B for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 07:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf29.google.com (mail-qv1-xf29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQ2xz56XBz3nPf for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 07:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qv1-xf29.google.com with SMTP id j12so3563658qvk.12 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 00:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=M15e6GtJLJ4FwZ4IErs+OLo30VhK5D295NyJqh3mTrU=; b=NAH7D2OcAfeHpOInyJTU+1uG83eN6pCjnIUTrq+sSzirmxfrBI4TfzAfrb8klW+YlN 4PLA21+qXoNuVMDwsP5Q2A3nNm+zLxw/bFG/Uc+NVcO2gDqo2ICz6+ffnIMk1PDiF08L HLbp0URVJqcWBjO6Blh5vv9KztZcdu3yTvVYrIe4+4rJ/K4MepIobpInGIIri8FcAwz0 GhMPrg/DUxwOlm8pLOcGrVx0j0FP/Q0cteTILpK0e32kjddeW2p6mEbJ/gyhS8sdMBYP TngL/1PgN1ZQdfrShk0T7w53lmPRir3ZP5r5Noz2Up20ENZKKo2b7eV1XxsottMVrM1V Dk9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=M15e6GtJLJ4FwZ4IErs+OLo30VhK5D295NyJqh3mTrU=; b=4h/zh4wFtOKMpHBKZWDZ0GD9gFNvhOf9I7DEH7pvABuXy+k9Qggvfds2R31vE160Ny 0xVmo11e564aHIo3Ej3iObXmVJ4oxNNdU0zAdJ7n1VxxAbd4tSBHuxgP/ybZBxkwk0XL Iwtrmke3W69f6l+tvf+15yyLlta6RbyQwlDDhcSN1YEZoKGA0iF9U7YI3hlZw6Q0F67G OKP0RxvMrpnJK+fl9gnAyUZRopoMXWZWbwFrMkjEUXrkT2cWcfH/wjiFAWrLNPMF/KR/ NXcFxbBYlmeNGArmfN6mg4iunBak6v/ZvOVHzx0r3ngJ93M5OPBgWLzDknLxPKN/jRjC GKRw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Lkq3FUoLt2HeEBDayWDT1SIWL8+KLNo1Dwioifj4RkwnpVFah 2lqQU9qOabjQ+ZjnD3msu7NGfMqFMQRuYc0vOjf8SS8BlaVTFg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzRKHzwOi9KLENudSy5QC/LeJINvpgi4SnUlBb2LznKuBJjzQejbXuG252ousrVb6yU/GTBZp8K3+o2TpTgZic= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:4a26:: with SMTP id n6mr2867899qvz.10.1633591744814; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 00:29:04 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:28:28 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a8617705cdbe3772" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQ2xz56XBz3nPf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000a8617705cdbe3772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:09 AM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 12:37:55PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > >And an Exim developer has given me this task - to get Exim to > >create dump. > >I quote him below: > > > >*Arranging one is hard as Exim is setuid. I've not tried **on a BSD, but > >Linux requires some deliberate relaxation of security* > > You said you've already set the sysctl kern.sugid_coredump. > > That developer seems to have missed that, apparently, Exim catches the > signal SIGSEGV, which means that signal will never cause a coredump. > You could confirm that Exim catches that signal by searching the > source code for calls to signal() or sigaction(), or for "SIGSEGV", or > for the log string "maybe attempt to write to immutable memory". > > If Exim catches that signal, then the only way to get a coredump is to > make Exim not catch that signal -- that is, temporarily remove the > call to signal() or sigaction(). > > See the man pages signal(3) and sigaction(2). > > Attached are two small sample programs that demonstrate a segmentation > violation without and with catching the signal. When the signal is > not caught, the OS writes a coredump file; when the signal is caught, > no coredump is produced. > Hi Kurt, Thanks so much for the explanation. Let me discuss this with the Exim developer and see if we end up with something. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' :-) --000000000000a8617705cdbe3772-- From nobody Thu Oct 7 07:29:17 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2004D12D2860 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 07:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x82b.google.com (mail-qt1-x82b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQ2yp72zxz3nns for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 07:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x82b.google.com with SMTP id z24so540854qtv.9 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 00:29:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BU3a/7GsXfTxjgWDqXjSyenCtlWUog0HjbP5LThJAwI=; b=U2NbBaEO9IyU7hgocgSBmn0QLaLCP3i7J4QWwgaWg3RcfK3jYXdDeHVM8lSoY1KDPb b571XhkaVplnn4pdxzrAui84YWkxmJfsvFKDbNgVyQmwGZtIQAMHHl9FpuHd3r6b0o2u 6KGqFk2hN2Xh8xPZI3Edm57HCmSMK5UebgLNPWZrzfFVvKEVWYFM6hnrrV6y8BDd62YJ vu0SQ9T8IhDbT84niVqdOPM82iBef5xCipel0mfMDey6pKt4xJ/o+h7p9VBflGnaxihc 7ugOueM3LIOvnR1NJfDOyJwYl/sjVTfl6rWb2JV7J29agXXJWTpSASfKJj9jbsx9Lcbo 5neg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BU3a/7GsXfTxjgWDqXjSyenCtlWUog0HjbP5LThJAwI=; b=ShAaF7gUH46EaaIb21udQqhQtFfyy/CR/DtgSSVIWFW+5avlrqRpTOdi0M4YhUFBy/ eGUXtVFGU9P6zgu12i831HR1e3QBI2SNsxh9Jhu+MefPOGt/mIpKHl16aJ2Hbu/MBSP8 Z9om0tR3Zcxvfd2cwW4RDtsO0BdUudhpQqGG5MvnvUcMBTre6FySAQ4QVFZpWT4IcbbN pOrSGGmjJkE6G6FE34yKQdKo2/Q9b6OiuSh2tINDaiJyHCygzLV/oo8eKEs5B22AcD8T O09JPJUbuzSXhMxtNRjp8Ol09MUlp+dBNdy8ytFMu6pETV/XVZSFIL2KH5+e/hgsWKE4 Wwkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533pWQYfzwKnAj7ZkbHXmZ4Bf68QbOn/z6mpADNkpBeYwPSdpsg1 6UoQH2hkLhSpKgpEBbw0T7ovzJRNA4Rsi7nVqTddarvaobZ3IA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzRQ1hU0mFNJ/tHGUHvfNfn1lWIyl44bLW/k1y9wAy1He91Gaq2+uMWACBfTfGxOMFLP4LikfXycQ7P3yM8jJ0= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:7f4a:: with SMTP id g10mr3300541qtk.150.1633591794382; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 00:29:54 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211007062941.bf0f53fa571b041064a6d931@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20211007062941.bf0f53fa571b041064a6d931@sohara.org> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:29:17 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I get a coredump file from an application? To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009cbab505cdbe3acb" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQ2yp72zxz3nns X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000009cbab505cdbe3acb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 8:30 AM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:08:02 -0400 > Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > > If Exim catches that signal, then the only way to get a coredump is to > > make Exim not catch that signal -- that is, temporarily remove the > > call to signal() or sigaction(). > > There are a number of signals you can send to cause a core dump > SIGABORT usually works, SIGFPE is almost never caught. > > Hello Steve, Thanks for the input. 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To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20211007062941.bf0f53fa571b041064a6d931@sohara.org> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:14:56 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20211007062941.bf0f53fa571b041064a6d931@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQKH70jLFz4ZbQ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=panix.com header.s=panix header.b=Rac5gt15; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.45 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[166.84.1.89:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.1.64/26:c]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[panix.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.954]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[96.230.243.2:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[panix.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[panix.com:s=panix]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[166.84.1.89:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2021/10/07 01:29, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> If Exim catches that signal, then the only way to get a coredump is to >> make Exim not catch that signal -- that is, temporarily remove the >> call to signal() or sigaction(). > > There are a number of signals you can send to cause a core dump > SIGABORT usually works, SIGFPE is almost never caught. Sure, but that wouldn't catch the bug that's being chased: Exim uses an invalid address, and the OS notifies the process by sending it the software signal SIGSEGV. From nobody Fri Oct 8 02:25:10 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650D1179DAF0 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 02:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnelson@nelnet.org) Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQX935NYFz4mYW for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 02:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnelson@nelnet.org) Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id o20so24806364wro.3 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 19:25:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0YOck708t+2t/uyzJB1Ng7gTqAvP54FVW0jmIcxYr7o=; b=Ex679qtdXqBBWbkwqvhJK/ANW7JAUHu0OLQAubJFYcn3GqBVO5RcqUQcXbI0EShzbF 8LUT1IafgLD0/2ZQB1R1K+ff0IFphbHwNrESLOJPA7XX6DaK9a8OW3fKIAZqDHea+8F7 DdjWuF5GjKS945x6mhaReXzK1sZq2XEc9U4v/1k4lnL6wiani/MMOTglFFS1mBleQtPF IVbU+0cYNRCUdpipRe6v/PQP/AHYTcjb5QCG3jKBrsj2TL8loqBQ6wd862CYmHxOqNz1 fMrDfCq1+19NljBn2wxsxGOLhmVMlZxqBfDoaofIqXljDnYI0AYYQnUuDgBQ/0Pu/J5h l+pA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0YOck708t+2t/uyzJB1Ng7gTqAvP54FVW0jmIcxYr7o=; b=W+LYA1Pq5udscaq3QWUcXp1+NibE6KEj95e7QFm5QG9SdTnW++ezQlWO1na6hlXW64 G+fyu/ue60c6ixdVQDHzuEk3V0zFDePQAVG312vYPzeOI/zXoSM2vHogfzpeczoeuIwb PvLVU2GA2u9/bDeBkqxMgoDVYwRXp9GqTns2JOS147SHrPQeljc3YFASKFz4YUgIRgIQ Yl5F4b29W99XrnaralqR5hNc+UilzCjwDTMuQ7cJOhkz2avdBAPnoaaiUsDK6MoVnIHh oxI+GX5EgcTK1+NB5pRQJ8dSnx/m/MFw9YZrvAc5MD3Zsk0+YCx+VMkwXj3AIhm+1pJ7 nX9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53138XzIhq19G79oXV5QaTD6+mi7KjIdUGXEuXte/GyvxglaZzo+ TuZsf/stDuUUnof7oOMTXYhv24fqSOiY+wKfQavGFJN91a5CG9+u X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxrj5oagH8CjL24WQVqM32dNl2O1X5vRU52naRhzNHNjume0noB9KPa649ZBa/ZZMfFTaQ8KjZsDrabZda64+M= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:19c4:: with SMTP id 187mr491160wmz.149.1633659926157; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 19:25:26 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Lee Nelson Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 19:25:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Hundreds of prompts to remove files during upgrade To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009530c505cdce1767" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQX935NYFz4mYW X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Ex679qtd; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lnelson@nelnet.org has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e) smtp.mailfrom=lnelson@nelnet.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[nelnet.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nelnet-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000009530c505cdce1767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm trying to upgrade from 12.2-RELEASE to 13.0-RELEASE. During the process I am getting hundreds of prompts like the ones shown below. I don't think this is normal since I don't imagine most users would sit for this, but I could be wrong. Also, some of these files look kinda critical - like not the kinds of files that should go away. Am on the path to a trashed system or is this perfectly normal? The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE: /etc/pam.d/login Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE: /etc/pam.d/other Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE: /etc/pam.d/passwd Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE: /etc/pam.d/pop3 Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE: /etc/pam.d/sshd Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y The following file will be removed, as it no longer exists in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE: /etc/pam.d/su Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y --- https://keybase.io/nelsonov --0000000000009530c505cdce1767-- From nobody Fri Oct 8 04:44:05 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FF317E17F9 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 04:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQbFC5DvHz3C7Y for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 04:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=mXDkU2ashaNDtEX0IRhMVLMam5BDVzY4yDwY3wQriUQ=; b=wS1v+B6C7ihLomBNR0iUwgnIHE roznSpwDx6wRokeZ265VTT8cI6sDOOq8MRtNUyQ+c43nFSQGCHZJbihVMq8tDdrhwHIJjYgPnLfFe 1x/IgBRVUjfozjb7z9/G/QaFCBl0pbO1IlRTyxdz0FEuoDHycGSEfFO9j73z3phrMgEBR28dNISS0 HuEWj1zRKfMalx8qqzhwQZz+Z3UUD5JCVqnCZf2JQGuhe81rfR4wDmUL4J/pmudH1Zy0IeSu8K6e9 LhDw0XVrKPF2SuuUC1tsnLFW49F/07O4oxTbFYTmhP80O228Bklatq+tvz+NF4IsynTk7dpGyjABK mXgNIhSA==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0N6HH-001W53-FT for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 06:44:05 +0200 Message-ID: <06b9d3c4-a415-7b2e-0b2c-fa083d5a091e@tinka.africa> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 06:44:05 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: Hundreds of prompts to remove files during upgrade Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQbFC5DvHz3C7Y X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=wS1v+B6C; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/8/21 04:25, Lee Nelson wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade from 12.2-RELEASE to 13.0-RELEASE. During the > process I am getting hundreds of prompts like the ones shown below. I > don't think this is normal since I don't imagine most users would sit for > this, but I could be wrong. Also, some of these files look kinda critical > - like not the kinds of files that should go away. Am on the path to a > trashed system or is this perfectly normal? Hmmh... Are you using "freebsd-update"? Mark. 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[79.66.158.223]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t3sm7446195wmj.33.2021.10.07.23.26.24 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Oct 2021 23:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Hundreds of prompts to remove files during upgrade To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <8b4a709c-3f4d-e881-b58a-3fde48a79d43@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 07:26:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQdW70cZ6z3sTk X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=S5w0FOEg; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.46 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.931]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.66.158.223:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.988]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.54)[-0.542]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42a:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 08/10/2021 03:25, Lee Nelson wrote: > … I don't think this is normal … Lee, please: did you follow FreeBSD-provided documentation? Or did you, maybe, take a chroot approach? Was your 12.⋯ (or earlier) originally from freebsd.org, or elsewhere? 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On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 11:36 PM Graham Perrin wrote: > On 08/10/2021 03:25, Lee Nelson wrote: > > =E2=80=A6 I don't think this is normal =E2=80=A6 > > Lee, please: did you follow FreeBSD-provided documentation? Or did you, > maybe, take a chroot approach? > > Was your 12.=E2=8B=AF (or earlier) originally from freebsd.org, or elsewh= ere? > > > --=20 https://keybase.io/nelsonov --000000000000bcb66205cdd1d3c4-- From nobody Fri Oct 8 08:46:31 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084ED12DF9CC for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQhcr1sMtz4vgJ for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=pKTwhXfEOzolkEAFCWwD51dssTDAM2j4rt9EgnmW15M=; b=DWYOdDDuFzv1DXqsikiWHJn8fa /VNdthb6gSuC82Lev1oFl0KQuVqSJL0tB4I/01IDZA3bH45WT8wkQmzGp8ygc4tv440tZCzpR7vPa 4q4pWIpw3kCJBTkBBdcEG9+eoR2rA0OcaKqxRunjlHi5955ZD2s4aD3J+AHB7Q4F4CC5UgAfUm3gp iJW9eSOI0FyfwGdFqNiPo943H3xzzOYI5dl+6x+2yvL1SnDN3vZ0Ehk+HoRe0TCp4d6TnC3aAqAMX g2gH2ilFJE/pzT3mQQQ2ElOY97XZVdLSKqZ2krRO+eSI+s3JPpohFhHZZFN67WufhF1HTnBXqnPny A4p32b8Q==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0NHPJ-001X53-EG for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 10:46:31 +0200 Message-ID: <53c0b762-59e8-b40e-1050-f87602828e1b@tinka.africa> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 10:46:31 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: Hundreds of prompts to remove files during upgrade Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <8b4a709c-3f4d-e881-b58a-3fde48a79d43@gmail.com> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQhcr1sMtz4vgJ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=DWYOdDDu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/8/21 08:52, Lee Nelson wrote: > The command I used is > sudo freebsd-update -r 13.0-RELEASE upgrade I've never upgraded using 'sudo'. Would be interesting to see if you get these prompts while upgrading as root. Mark. From nobody Fri Oct 8 11:45:55 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2FF17F5982 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from mailout.qeng-ho.org (mailout.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.244]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQmbt6WCLz3mSG for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:64c9:1::2]) by mailout.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740B7A129D; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:45:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Hundreds of prompts to remove files during upgrade To: Mark Tinka , questions@freebsd.org, lnelson@nelnet.org References: <8b4a709c-3f4d-e881-b58a-3fde48a79d43@gmail.com> <53c0b762-59e8-b40e-1050-f87602828e1b@tinka.africa> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:45:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <53c0b762-59e8-b40e-1050-f87602828e1b@tinka.africa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQmbt6WCLz3mSG X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 08/10/2021 09:46, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 10/8/21 08:52, Lee Nelson wrote: > >> The command I used  is >> sudo freebsd-update -r 13.0-RELEASE upgrade > > I've never upgraded using 'sudo'. > > Would be interesting to see if you get these prompts while upgrading as > root. I usually use freebsd-update in a sudo -s shell and have never had prompts to remove system files like the OP had. Unfortunately I can't talk from experience about the 12.2 -> 13.0 upgrade as I did a complete wipe and reinstall so I could switch from BIOS to UEFI booting. However I can say the files that were going to be removed do exist under 13.0: arthur@arthur[1]> ls /etc/pam.d atrun ftp imap other pop3 sshd system xdm cron ftpd login passwd README su telnetd -- Nothing teaches one not to try to stamp out burning thermite quite like real-life experience. — James Davis Nicoll From nobody Fri Oct 8 14:04:50 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8AC12DB5E0 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 14:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQqh83phTz4VZM for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 14:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Y1WjJgdB7spkfMdTwb9l7UAruauQzb1jmi/cLXF6SUM=; b=JXiEEHbX1JoqZ2O5icURDY3u47 g0h12cMCE2/IB0KeiqdJO+5ogTMRbqGwn5TJEYg3GCCI8LoOFc3q4zpR2cGjatGPz6mEIoiduumRg Peo2N98FjRE/hkwGNV2ITM6/QTzIa+BZmjXEQEov0Rt00TunfzmH0S2Kwbk14hiP9N96QS/urcLtt BXxnnyM7TUr4UldxQ/lEs6tXM/iufep49bP+oLX0RotoHGMRkR98fn+K2E6828jRlvMpJ7Cfopqjw NZU3XSHW7PpSUwb0Ze3Zy5xd691+t67zbDibA+/NBYEH4eZpXSOqpamfMgii07JF89AzYictNe4xB 1ObqImsA==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0NWG2-001YY7-NJ; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 16:04:50 +0200 Message-ID: <0de63d10-589b-fccb-90cf-5fc93478e3cb@tinka.africa> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 16:04:50 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: Hundreds of prompts to remove files during upgrade Content-Language: en-US To: Arthur Chance , questions@freebsd.org, lnelson@nelnet.org References: <8b4a709c-3f4d-e881-b58a-3fde48a79d43@gmail.com> <53c0b762-59e8-b40e-1050-f87602828e1b@tinka.africa> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQqh83phTz4VZM X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/8/21 13:45, Arthur Chance wrote: > I usually use freebsd-update in a sudo -s shell and have never had > prompts to remove system files like the OP had. > > Unfortunately I can't talk from experience about the 12.2 -> 13.0 > upgrade as I did a complete wipe and reinstall so I could switch from > BIOS to UEFI booting. However I can say the files that were going to be > removed do exist under 13.0: > > arthur@arthur[1]> ls /etc/pam.d > atrun ftp imap other pop3 sshd system xdm > cron ftpd login passwd README su telnetd I've done several upgrades using "freebsd-update" from 12.2 to 13.0, and even from as far back as 11.2 to 13.0. No issues at all with the prompts. Mark. 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NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000b01afa05cddc32b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" How do I delete the .nfs's in the following session capture: aryeh@sarek1024% rm -rf scrap/ rm: scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib: Directory not empty rm: scrap/www/WEB-INF: Directory not empty rm: scrap/www: Directory not empty rm: scrap/: Directory not empty specMed-win-1f2.C012@sarek1024% find . . ./scrap ./scrap/www ./scrap/www/WEB-INF ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430403.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430407.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430406.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430404.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430408.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430405.33dc4.4 aryeh@sarek1024% unlink ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430403.33dc4.4 aryeh@sarek1024% find . . ./scrap ./scrap/www ./scrap/www/WEB-INF ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430403.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430407.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430406.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430404.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430408.33dc4.4 ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430405.33dc4.4 -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org --000000000000b01afa05cddc32b0-- From nobody Fri Oct 8 23:01:07 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D5D12D49FA for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 23:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (mail.geeks.org [IPv6:2001:4980:3333:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HR3Zz4LVVz4Ytn for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 23:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C268414BB3 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id B354D14BB2; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:01:07 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to delete stale NFS handles Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HR3Zz4LVVz4Ytn X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 03:14:59PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > How do I delete the .nfs's in the following session capture: > > aryeh@sarek1024% rm -rf scrap/ > rm: scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib: Directory not empty ... > ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430403.33dc4.4 > ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430407.33dc4.4 > ./scrap/www/WEB-INF/lib/.nfs.82430406.33dc4.4 There's a process running that is holding that file open. You'll have to shut down that process so it'll release the file handle. 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When I need to compile a pkg using /usr/ports, each option dialog appaers with default color, lightblue and white. It'a really difficult to read. Is there a way to change the default colors? Other question, is it possible to have more contrasted colors for people whith vision difficulties? May be did I have to make a issue in on repot (which one?)? Thankls for reading me and you advices. -- Jacques Foucry From nobody Sat Oct 9 20:20:26 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B24017E54E5 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (fournil.foucry.net [95.217.83.231]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HRbz343Tfz4ZYL for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (unknown [192.168.12.17]) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212D42DF72 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:20:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foucry.net Received: from mail.foucry.net ([192.168.12.17]) by mail.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [192.168.12.17]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cnrHwFEbbUwy for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.foucry.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id 4EDAF2DE6A; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:20:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1633810829; bh=il0SfhPhrlhaVrQNBfdoQRhUPlbzm7AFivltyTRQ43s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=mh+Xt5/vuNeOaV6I1bqS9QSwoBEHKBsyAtZ0Cvwi7VJ4HcMoc1MxyDFOm08FQ5iCu HKMS//Rqm5zGJU00aLzsz558wjPmGb0NISWn8M6k95g/VGXxlnAtzuKhk72IDBcvUL UeAeE3blqfGGkyJreQdxK1lFhHyEAo/d1ZbVbdug= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:cb10:8e64:fe00:ea6a:64ff:fe07:95a1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7B112DE69 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:20:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1633810829; bh=il0SfhPhrlhaVrQNBfdoQRhUPlbzm7AFivltyTRQ43s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=mh+Xt5/vuNeOaV6I1bqS9QSwoBEHKBsyAtZ0Cvwi7VJ4HcMoc1MxyDFOm08FQ5iCu HKMS//Rqm5zGJU00aLzsz558wjPmGb0NISWn8M6k95g/VGXxlnAtzuKhk72IDBcvUL UeAeE3blqfGGkyJreQdxK1lFhHyEAo/d1ZbVbdug= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mithril.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56506FD for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 22:20:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 22:20:26 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: LibreOffice-7 crash signal 11 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HRbz343Tfz4ZYL X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=foucry.net header.s=dkim header.b="mh+Xt5/v"; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=foucry.net header.s=dkim header.b="mh+Xt5/v"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=foucry.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jacques@foucry.net designates 95.217.83.231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jacques@foucry.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.79 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[foucry.net:s=dkim]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[foucry.net:-]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[foucry.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:95.217.0.0/16, country:DE]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello collegues, Since a certain amount of time (I cannot say how much), my LibreOffice-7 (6 does the same behaviorâ‚Ž, crash at launch. I just can see the splash screen sthem booum: Fatal exception: Signal 11 I used pkg to install it, but I tried to compile it too and the compilation did not end successfully. I compile it on a poudriere too, which finish with now error. I copied the pkg from the poudriere to my desktop, install with pkg add but nothing change. I would like to know if I am alone? Could it be the pkg? A bad of missing dependency on my desktop computer? I run FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 All package should be up to date (I ran a pkg -f upgrade to be sure). If you have advice, I will be happy to read them. 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In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19116 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HRc6H3N2Jz4cJH X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Interesting. I have the same problem - and tried the same work-arounds - on 12.2-RELEASE-p10. Apache openoffice-4 works, however. On 10/9/21 14:20, Jacques Foucry wrote: > Hello collegues, > > Since a certain amount of time (I cannot say how much), my LibreOffice-7 (6 > does the same behaviorâ‚Ž, crash at launch. I just can see the splash screen > sthem booum: > > Fatal exception: Signal 11 > > > I used pkg to install it, but I tried to compile it too and the compilation > did not end successfully. > > I compile it on a poudriere too, which finish with now error. I copied the pkg > from the poudriere to my desktop, install with pkg add but > nothing change. > > I would like to know if I am alone? Could it be the pkg? > > A bad of missing dependency on my desktop computer? > > I run FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 > > All package should be up to date (I ran a pkg -f upgrade to be sure). > > If you have advice, I will be happy to read them. > > Thanks in advance > -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande Microsolutions | El Paso, TX -- A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. 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It'a really difficult to read. > > Is there a way to change the default colors? > > Other question, is it possible to have more contrasted colors for people whith > vision difficulties? May be did I have to make a issue in on repot (which > one?)? > > Thankls for reading me and you advices. > Well, if you are building your own dialogs, you can embed color and highlighting in the text with --colors. To change default colors (and many other things) there seems to be a way, but it's not obvious. First do this: dialog --create-rc ~/.dialogrc You can then edit that file which I _think_ will let you change defaults as you wish. 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I have the same problem  - and tried the same > work-arounds - on 12.2-RELEASE-p10.  Apache openoffice-4 works, however. > > > On 10/9/21 14:20, Jacques Foucry wrote: > >> … crash at launch. I just can see the splash screen hem booum: >> >> Fatal exception: Signal 11 >> >> … >> >> FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 >> >> … No such problem here. % pkg info -x libreoffice libreoffice-7.2.1.2 % freebsd-version -kru 14.0-CURRENT 14.0-CURRENT 14.0-CURRENT % uname -aKU FreeBSD mowa219-gjp4-8570p-freebsd 14.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #110 main-n249851-6b88668f0bf: Sun Oct  3 19:26:46 BST 2021 root@mowa219-gjp4-8570p-freebsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG amd64 1400034 1400034 % pkg lock -l Currently locked packages: harfbuzz-2.9.1 harfbuzz-icu-2.9.1 % sudo pkg upgrade grahamperrin's password: Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. Updating poudriere repository catalogue... poudriere repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. Checking for upgrades (8 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (8 candidates): 100% Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Your packages are up to date. % pkg -vv | grep url     url             : "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:14:amd64/latest",     url             : "https://alpha.pkgbase.live/current/FreeBSD:14:amd64/latest",     url             : "file:///usr/local/poudriere/data/packages/main-default", % pkg info -x openoffice apache-openoffice-devel-4.2.1619649022_5,4 % From nobody Sun Oct 10 06:15:53 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B0D17EB98B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [IPv6:2a01:4f9:4a:1fd8::17]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HRsBD5R0tz4rDS for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (unknown [192.168.12.17]) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5813C2E4BC for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:15:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foucry.net Received: from mail.foucry.net ([192.168.12.17]) by mail.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [192.168.12.17]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7jxDAsc8STPF for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.foucry.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id E9AB92E6C3; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:15:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1633846556; bh=YBbb/RIsTVh3zUtRaN6rIF4Bkxnv3sXqrGBSGSc/zKA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=n0E2zmimkQLvgiXRBK5qns4vaqlPH8oqTNxz8i+I4SMevQbKPMs/Is9rU7Z4dVCBj fl7ZsTWQ2duQn6r6fQSnOWZmjP79uFky4FFaMHLaw5wKM580JwsYvYdb4H5YmG9BWk pqiah9bRDpFtYLgErY5HcDx0ngaiqiAfl5BOJuo8= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (aaubervilliers-552-1-32-36.w90-35.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.35.203.36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47F882E35A; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:15:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1633846555; bh=YBbb/RIsTVh3zUtRaN6rIF4Bkxnv3sXqrGBSGSc/zKA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=QnKa03yWHV7NX2usUHGRc1Q3BKz4kbIW5EbJahWxaT9CjDDL4pfF1985HhVLmdgcW 4bz4BoHOBR6tuh3PZlL8oFhVl/QELTsImaFwHdTgu3xI9i0scjVUkS8t+Xmx8KMoFv q/teWM3gpK2tYrt2fv23uiuDekAA4qxT6DLItzgg= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mithril.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E98C1D18; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:15:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:15:53 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: Bob Melson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LibreOffice-7 crash signal 11 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Bob Melson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HRsBD5R0tz4rDS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Le samedi 09 oct. 2021 à 14:26:33 (-0600), Bob Melson à écrit: Hello Bob, > Interesting. I have the same problem - and tried the same work-arounds > - on 12.2-RELEASE-p10. Apache openoffice-4 works, however. Did you fill a issue somewhere? May be it could be a good idea? What do think? -- Jacques Foucry From nobody Sun Oct 10 06:27:53 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897EF17ED5EA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [IPv6:2a01:4f9:4a:1fd8::17]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HRsRy1tWqz4swn for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (unknown [192.168.12.17]) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443322E12D for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:27:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foucry.net Received: from mail.foucry.net ([192.168.12.17]) by mail.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [192.168.12.17]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81y6F_bOFx2s for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.foucry.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id C86D22E1E6; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:27:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1633847277; bh=uFv+T8aM2+CSqj+IMU3Kppyer4Sq0mjSjUfRg6GgRr4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=p9Z2P57s0LnXhvKWG0CnMCcbL5nCy/jofLLexhyoEVKG4Y4HFwq+W0n7azYYfDTp+ jeDEAPDHWPdd393NnbMd6aZq+swBMYGIGJMoEiuKo9vMZUVLga41N41I0jq63Aswkd MOsVaS/5fwiwLdQHRsoUsNxEj2rbSfhrfwm1bqHQ= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:cb10:8e64:fe00:4aa4:72ff:fe9e:65a1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D87F2E76E; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:27:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1633847276; bh=uFv+T8aM2+CSqj+IMU3Kppyer4Sq0mjSjUfRg6GgRr4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=j7N3XfbXWxZHo76Wt/ZgbJ+AKPr1cf+iIcciQ6tCI4vcTXoKR6F5QvkF41QRW2zfd l7Q2ITsvNidHl9ep5Xh+H9srLiVLjz/9iK283EkqR1OGLCPoXX7Mt+9I+loK9Ynl36 xrORpGuBtdncf5D19UGJv9JTJnJqbjvCM9AuKHHw= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mithril.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11E741AEE; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:27:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:27:53 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: tundra@tundraware.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dialog colors Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: tundra@tundraware.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <82037ea2-d0a1-8f36-243e-38c9425bd8ba@tundraware.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <82037ea2-d0a1-8f36-243e-38c9425bd8ba@tundraware.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HRsRy1tWqz4swn X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Le samedi 09 oct. 2021 à 16:31:15 (-0500), Tim Daneliuk via freebsd-questions à écrit: > On 10/9/21 3:16 AM, Jacques Foucry wrote: > > Hello folks, > > > > I have a little trouble with dialog default colors. > > > > When I need to compile a pkg using /usr/ports, each option dialog appaers with > > default color, lightblue and white. It'a really difficult to read. > > > > Is there a way to change the default colors? > > > > Other question, is it possible to have more contrasted colors for people whith > > vision difficulties? May be did I have to make a issue in on repot (which > > one?)? > > > > Thankls for reading me and you advices. > > > > Well, if you are building your own dialogs, you can embed color and highlighting > in the text with --colors. > > To change default colors (and many other things) there seems to be a way, > but it's not obvious. First do this: > > dialog --create-rc ~/.dialogrc > > You can then edit that file which I _think_ will let you change defaults as you > wish. Ok thanks. This will solve my problem, but what about the installer for example which have the same colors. Vision disabled people could a big difficulties whith those colors. Is there a list where I can talk for this problem? Or fill issue somewhere? 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I have the same problem - and tried the same > > work-arounds=20 > > - on 12.2-RELEASE-p10. Apache openoffice-4 works, however. =20 >=20 >=20 > Did you fill a issue somewhere?=20 >=20 > May be it could be a good idea? What do think? >=20 >=20 even, if it does not directly help. It runs for me on 12 STABLE from a few days ago. I noticed in a different context, that just rebuilding all ports helps as upgrades do not necessarily upgrade all ports when it is not required. Erich From nobody Sun Oct 10 13:04:11 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BDE17FE7EB for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 93ab.82.c37a00063c4b01.f37b8578c4fda152487fc35bb23dd0f3@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b515.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b515.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.181.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HS2Fm1gxnz4fHB for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 93ab.82.c37a00063c4b01.f37b8578c4fda152487fc35bb23dd0f3@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=tundraware.com;s=slkey; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633871084; x=1636463084; h=x-tundraware-mailscanner-from:x-greylist:content-type:mime-version:subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:date:cc:to:from:x-thread-info; bh=U1ZK/opAHLX1o+JUIVOsRCd+OXI6L2775oes3Ej83Yk=; b=PkPGLS851hiubO+Se8qhHtkSNpt5N0CCngmM9d+owyJ9wIGEdgfFiLCNUsQfgJMp7C/M3DFOef6LjgZzh1BbCjP6ixngfiLQ9eNPwzYaBGVykhGmldBQeREdt9yPxabkQxUQzTl4r/h8spwoV0kovq/KkjCMfnsvi0cpqdMf3rzXDXBfN3OoQh4XpoE9zg0u5smBVwy4hwbKcj2Y33bSFPKsfpI4fSQcglFIaBn9FEqSVinNUGG8Vxe59nYJVNae3bW3XK0s85PiJXO4h8Z2Gg16E/+o2L7R7xVOCCL+jfjS+FRUDxFSum6GuQ08klTXvKZAD7ZKWYc6U6rRGdhvpw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633871084; x=1636463084; h=x-tundraware-mailscanner-from:x-greylist:content-type:mime-version:subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:date:cc:to:from:x-thread-info; bh=U1ZK/opAHLX1o+JUIVOsRCd+OXI6L2775oes3Ej83Yk=; b=oVGfB9ZjmAGm66tPKs/skpCIuB+Pb8BL5LIpbkUSRDStJtIMJMELy5gfkMaFI/39wcBxmXEnavrs9nEK0cxHCPA3nkeOll/yaGySb3C+fOgOA9ma6SlFNxWAz6DMiOovvUplcsbNx3ZT1IGcIJllUyPTJFB0WQAQQnkkMbNuqVQ= X-Thread-Info: OTNhYi4xMi5jMzdhMDAwNjNjNGIwMS5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.3]) by mxh4.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 09:04:35 -0400 Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) by r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 09:04:34 -0400 Received: from [100.70.112.130] (162.sub-174-192-74.myvzw.com [174.192.74.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 19AD4HGM043803 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:04:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) To: Jacques Foucry CC: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:04:11 -0500 Message-ID: <17c6a4db8f8.281e.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: References: <82037ea2-d0a1-8f36-243e-38c9425bd8ba@tundraware.com> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.31.0-1857 (build: 103101002) Subject: Re: Dialog colors List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="17c6a4dbadd1780281e2648761" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:04:18 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: 19AD4HGM043803 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.822, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, TW_KL 0.08) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HS2Fm1gxnz4fHB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com From: Tim Daneliuk via freebsd-questions X-Original-From: Tim Daneliuk X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --17c6a4dbadd1780281e2648761 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think ports use dialog4ports but I am not sure. On October 10, 2021 1:47:36 AM Jacques Foucry wrote: > Le samedi 09 oct. 2021 à 16:31:15 (-0500), Tim Daneliuk via > freebsd-questions à écrit: >> On 10/9/21 3:16 AM, Jacques Foucry wrote: >> > Hello folks, >> > >> > I have a little trouble with dialog default colors. >> > >> > When I need to compile a pkg using /usr/ports, each option dialog appaers >> with >> > default color, lightblue and white. It'a really difficult to read. >> > >> > Is there a way to change the default colors? >> > >> > Other question, is it possible to have more contrasted colors for people >> whith >> > vision difficulties? May be did I have to make a issue in on repot (which >> > one?)? >> > >> > Thankls for reading me and you advices. >> > >> >> Well, if you are building your own dialogs, you can embed color and >> highlighting >> in the text with --colors. >> >> To change default colors (and many other things) there seems to be a way, >> but it's not obvious. First do this: >> >> dialog --create-rc ~/.dialogrc >> >> You can then edit that file which I _think_ will let you change defaults as you >> wish. > > Ok thanks. > > This will solve my problem, but what about the installer for > example which have the same colors. Vision disabled people could a big > difficulties whith those colors. Is there a list where I can talk for this > problem? 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Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:22:11 +0100 From: tech-lists To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LibreOffice-7 crash signal 11 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HS5JX23kWz4ySf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Oct 09, 2021 at 10:20:26PM +0200, Jacques Foucry wrote: >Hello collegues, > >Since a certain amount of time (I cannot say how much), my LibreOffice-7 (6 >does the same behavior=E2=82=8E, crash at launch. I just can see the splas= h screen >=EF=AC=86hem booum: > >Fatal exception: Signal 11 Try moving ~/.config/libreoffice to libreofficeold and then running libreoffice. I have no issues with libreoffice. This machine uses poudriere to build its ports. % pkg info -x libreoffice en_GB-libreoffice-7.2.1.2 libreoffice-7.2.1.2 % freebsd-version -kru 13.0-STABLE 13.0-STABLE 13.0-STABLE --=20 J. --JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFjBRsACgkQs8o7QhFz NAWNMw/6A1ZRAGQqoCHV4D79vYnAsaMxKopyKIV8rLweerLUmpetn2U4vQZ8J9CP 3rp/k7hvyaHPrMZDQr86MTiQKXDtz/N6XEHJNZTmruQGZ0Fdb6SfHc2uB7DkgwIQ 8vi2Lgk03mqPHKZC/xvSKedpyi+aqnskB9KFyDQQRNFBzb3lh4BevZH2PGqXZMnC ebHF/a4XJ7bZK/MGbJ2Sz0nUfAfsVQv0riu+7wxY2WEgMK0OqErzhPLj5GrUOa/J +5UgXrl3+Vn/0rPZBjxnXhlXU9S/yinRszl7dlv3sxRTJapw2UMohmoo5T9QTaln F+rQA0atIZpQYvgwJ7c1TbeR6PU8c4UQdhZ+jfezf16ZfDS/D7zL3MDfsu2qUKV8 SzUAXNUXD/vokdSZvcDaSkucr6FcLWtvGgwJHqDGcnYN1jv5clh0iRe5uF/oiFKy n3gJYdjjeYomN1KL/TX/uqg73MrCVtSUYZ8lVNllUF+MBL3NgJ53ZfCBzS4MP/3D shk9ApLEstUad/3H3y3Bv99X5ndy96SN0QRCkJFn9PMmZX5ePchj4hPZ2OjdTkyM S83TXlRm7QYkViH9hOA5+bvP5MypDanJ6cgiF0saLBgvsZA5k1VgzKt69wQmJ9m3 5BdDnxxf155lcJOjUmQxDR0VanG/4aAaOvN27Djlea9raP6ORb0= =/CcC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 15:22:11 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6191017EB0B8; 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Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:22:11 +0100 From: tech-lists To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LibreOffice-7 crash signal 11 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HS5JX23kWz4ySf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Oct 09, 2021 at 10:20:26PM +0200, Jacques Foucry wrote: >Hello collegues, > >Since a certain amount of time (I cannot say how much), my LibreOffice-7 (6 >does the same behavior=E2=82=8E, crash at launch. I just can see the splas= h screen >=EF=AC=86hem booum: > >Fatal exception: Signal 11 Try moving ~/.config/libreoffice to libreofficeold and then running libreoffice. I have no issues with libreoffice. This machine uses poudriere to build its ports. % pkg info -x libreoffice en_GB-libreoffice-7.2.1.2 libreoffice-7.2.1.2 % freebsd-version -kru 13.0-STABLE 13.0-STABLE 13.0-STABLE --=20 J. --JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFjBRsACgkQs8o7QhFz NAWNMw/6A1ZRAGQqoCHV4D79vYnAsaMxKopyKIV8rLweerLUmpetn2U4vQZ8J9CP 3rp/k7hvyaHPrMZDQr86MTiQKXDtz/N6XEHJNZTmruQGZ0Fdb6SfHc2uB7DkgwIQ 8vi2Lgk03mqPHKZC/xvSKedpyi+aqnskB9KFyDQQRNFBzb3lh4BevZH2PGqXZMnC ebHF/a4XJ7bZK/MGbJ2Sz0nUfAfsVQv0riu+7wxY2WEgMK0OqErzhPLj5GrUOa/J +5UgXrl3+Vn/0rPZBjxnXhlXU9S/yinRszl7dlv3sxRTJapw2UMohmoo5T9QTaln F+rQA0atIZpQYvgwJ7c1TbeR6PU8c4UQdhZ+jfezf16ZfDS/D7zL3MDfsu2qUKV8 SzUAXNUXD/vokdSZvcDaSkucr6FcLWtvGgwJHqDGcnYN1jv5clh0iRe5uF/oiFKy n3gJYdjjeYomN1KL/TX/uqg73MrCVtSUYZ8lVNllUF+MBL3NgJ53ZfCBzS4MP/3D shk9ApLEstUad/3H3y3Bv99X5ndy96SN0QRCkJFn9PMmZX5ePchj4hPZ2OjdTkyM S83TXlRm7QYkViH9hOA5+bvP5MypDanJ6cgiF0saLBgvsZA5k1VgzKt69wQmJ9m3 5BdDnxxf155lcJOjUmQxDR0VanG/4aAaOvN27Djlea9raP6ORb0= =/CcC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JT9xtYYPGSO0B5cl-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 15:31:44 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FCC17EDE63 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 15:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HS5WQ3r6cz51s2 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 15:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B635C0079 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:31:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= fm3; bh=RlwdlO/gNqhzzcjazEsUCbu84M7+cNH80h54XWb4SVQ=; b=sQVhz8fQ 7e4I6/ZAXhCmuvYutkYY0y93QRaiM5x2Xhv0mjs2bczetaPltNoF3bGDOt2thf8O QmZJd2Ul4ijs8vBZJvuhLV/cCO1cwb8hPeEDlX0jcrzSXgQ6L2Rcz8HA51NiJTja 2HPEX2MGGboaW7YMlkH2+jlbBO4HkTfQK62u2YjeY52oCpY8ohBKdgOZjTLKQFgk 1olstug1FWo8ub9RteaA2DRO2FBRCU7s1VuU1snBg3Pd+V8eisTli2yDeJFW+lBP UdXjaEaBNGL+i72r99OI32HckrWIIPjvcSON/MP74G+FnS8saV0RdPTCBb2OVKX/ GED8bXlONJIfkg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=RlwdlO/gNqhzzcjazEsUCbu84M7+c NH80h54XWb4SVQ=; b=E3RurZn2/zKMmgF9WvsSe3sYNVydi/HC6BKNMjolEh2tr 8wver+Tv/OvDDafoKXeb6DBB5VMZNmLQFK5OnGmnDLnSxJAOSEGpuQieYthyT5/i p9T6dH0/6Sjfas6vtrODZ4GWx9MYQWc69sBkSK834X8G3F+bPtuGJaX/cK8TkfHY zOr5uwIdrTxqxFPo0pyxVQgeDqpNKtnWL6zO077jKOHnRD6O93n6h7CHDoHAQ8o3 62kke6L1G+uneRR7UvDW6Tk7ccLHxrZ13HN1J3+Jaxtv7cgXi8dPQKh83DB5ODYk eERKbyV7y9RZ7JRG9dnkfXB3oMMZSBXE/KPn+FCkQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrvddtgedgledtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkgggtugesghdtroertd dtvdenucfhrhhomhepthgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsuceothgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsseiihiig shhtrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeelffffhfejveeuueeuvdeljeetgfduff ffkedtgeffuddtveegjeehffdtgedtudenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgr rhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshesiiihgihsthdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:31:44 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? 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There is a VNC interface server (wayvnc) which allows to connect with an vncviewer to get the display of the phone onto your desktop with: $ vncviewer 192.168.178.48::5900 How this looks like can be seen here: http://www.unixarea.de/Screenshot_20211010_150741.png The resolution of the screen of the mobile is 720x1440, while my laptop runs with KDE5 and its display of 1366x768, i.e. only half of the hight of the mobile desktop is shown in the vncviewer (net/tigervnc-viewer). Do we have some other vncviewer in the ports capable of scaling the picture to 360x720? 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Mehmet Erol Sanliturk On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 6:42 PM tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > What, in the opinion of the list, is the best software for orchestrating > configs on freebsd & linux (mainly ubuntu or other debian-based distro). > > offhand, I know of puppet but have never much used it. > > thanks, > -- > J. > --0000000000008d5ced05ce01f726-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 16:40:57 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C8917D8D77 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HS73P51lHz3Fmm for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3A05C0038 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 12:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 12:40:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm3; bh=ZLUuGUNBR9MRkQEaKQgiyhFcVEi RMubGnPO26iPWV98=; b=Qxb2XJB87MWF57FXyYWsiBGiydr70kYZbDu3s7CZolj 88QvXiJECiCzQf2FLEYaggSKtHj7Y7hGvoO2AaYALyaca4h25RYfdeUhKPP6T1QO eqr/u7a+w6MobQ7CDJVqAsVpwjp4YTNetA3hFDiWDz/AguAgtwfNd1F1NsNPzWrJ swCbLJvpoo3/Xn3YjUtnIBhhBB+mBRRmtYPSaWokM7HXsr1HRWWOevizzzsbPBS1 gpW1KGeDvdmh1Kg6AGCUIv0+8BPSp4A7gXiziCluxTsx7FclzeYwm8XNIi2K6DC6 pmAwnntsQNLFreAkNPr7eZe0A4ru52wiCie/87BEbgA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=ZLUuGU NBR9MRkQEaKQgiyhFcVEiRMubGnPO26iPWV98=; b=FRNTPtw0ug9PxsemNsGHeD BunTtFw0hRnefjCBU0X563BJFeB/U6+6HR74wSoi4k5X1ipXQP9h/KK+GcXjBBoc NVFqpk3h/iyjueBG/LQU6zMH0CIXQWX8sqXqQs2E7/o+kB0j1W2KUF/OAuM7FFFC AXrTBAUyk6hEPx9wjbNxwlG679gaVi4l6n63QDgidoUONBO70BeQqJm+RvWk1/nc ZCNotGkHOUMLSOO4rKWaQL4J3Yqjppz0HVEznFbVWZoHXmx59TBg/cg11s+UQ1yr hNWcSfLeNGtqhJCMxI38+W9HQqbNd/uZrU5Mgv/525dpTVog8yALzOl5WteICOmA == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrvddtgedguddtfecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehgtd erredttddvnecuhfhrohhmpehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshcuoehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshes iiihgihsthdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnheptdehiefgvddufeekkedvtdefvd ettddtkeduvdegveelffdtkeffudejvdfhudetnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptden ucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepthgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsseiihiigshhtrdhnvg ht X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 12:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:40:57 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/RgW5bmUw2zpRp3h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HS73P51lHz3Fmm X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --/RgW5bmUw2zpRp3h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 07:18:10PM +0300, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: >Please search the following phrase in Google : > >Best Software Configuration Management Tools ( SCM Tools ) > > >You will see a lot of entries in the search list . I was wondering what people on this list would use, and if possible, what their reasons are. --=20 J. --/RgW5bmUw2zpRp3h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFjF5AACgkQs8o7QhFz NAU2zxAAnMGDLupVdzKEyJQ0PgmMz6BdzThakmBrzh9qhCsmIPTk2l9n3hnBszJe gaRZ4PU1R3LcoHuqH2sk3nXJ2eQVFqXzmTgYbbeLy6fSAwx5hHRCm1P99qNxdKF8 aLKrhiwZ9E9+fuQlFg0/eSTYfw4/AaujzD5mB64lc/m0wkhr9tr6yWq5KBK3+el+ dqSR7/pT8ZpuoDvpkne8FtM22xf0BTdCvtZaDhC6bgp+WavXpxUQnEDDG9hfxCyc 24W8ZkJ0kkSGyjNtYlLCd1VRhs68qO2VuuBrqIALmc8I0j1GgjkyvNqPzedZmM7S Uo6OcXGFwYXRaJljhvBv+0H9R/Uh0TQdbg8oEXtYiGJsVUZBtnwj17RAVfoUeoNk JCT3CVpnn0hG6wYUP/mm1qNpwv/dIeZn3IgENKBViFs7xlBSLtfF+NY2IXfe7w2R XEhC7KPDP0SG0KN4cCqHQurC30vQxb5uvKM5K0nFyg6T7SvcW+gg3Pva+bvhkHnN 9b1kaVhiNAqDwgluSjNS+uB1RwFt9w55G7dPu3CvvO4ljnMj0qYiEBSomfTqmQZb d/iQmtROGfkqJFZsVEFGe8p2mBdLLywMt70uPVTjeTiY/JnDHxYOfg3308tEl1t3 +KYI9aXwB+NVXsbF/bRdqb+k9wOqgdDAeyRBigQwH6c3guG5VKY= =emli -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/RgW5bmUw2zpRp3h-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 17:31:58 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5158417E10D9 for ; 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Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:31:58 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vncviewer with scaling Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BTyYd/TncaXBS5j4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HS8B81SF7z3Nmd X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=JclWDgot; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=YRr482yW; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net has no SPF policy when checking 66.111.4.28) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.19 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zyxst.net:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[66.111.4.28:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zyxst.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.69)[-0.692]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zyxst.net]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.0.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[66.111.4.28:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --BTyYd/TncaXBS5j4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 05:47:10PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >Hello, > >I've a mobile phone, the Purism L5, which runs a Debian system on it >with a Wayland Compositor as display server. There is a VNC interface >server (wayvnc) which allows to connect with an vncviewer to get the >display of the phone onto your desktop with: > >$ vncviewer 192.168.178.48::5900 > >How this looks like can be seen >here: http://www.unixarea.de/Screenshot_20211010_150741.png > >The resolution of the screen of the mobile is 720x1440, while my laptop >runs with KDE5 and its display of 1366x768, i.e. only half of the hight >of the mobile desktop is shown in the vncviewer (net/tigervnc-viewer). > >Do we have some other vncviewer in the ports capable of scaling the pictur= e to >360x720? I've not tried it, but have seen net/vinagre client mentioned wrt scaling in a mobile context. Otherwise, see https://github.com/TigerVNC/tigervnc/issues/274 and https://github.com/TigerVNC/tigervnc/issues/1016 --=20 J. --BTyYd/TncaXBS5j4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFjI4YACgkQs8o7QhFz NAW+rA/+MZ3v1O/KghkVvPMa8WM1lPDd2psy8eN3xl3ixXNH9xETVMAlo36rMoqV lw17RXhzN2DDLjlq5brRyGDqu4fF8MURHr9vV8zowSb/bU3cvB/Mn+TTBHZLDcRs XEAwt4TWKoIpVkwv3mEL3vQc5YKmws9EcXcfL8c2Vf/4CBH41oUNhLh+5ZorY9FO GB4u9qdElRzEI5j5oBzRUPiXkuBR+AF2mXhGYh3DlVK0xoOEllBtWeayg3qkGE8e E43T2vUSag6zpo5uMDoEn4RNiXwe5mJ/wcctWGOkYKT0ZP7h6/p8uL1Z7yu7PKNf 3vESHmfGaC+uWfGlGhvc7m6JNvBhO86cj5JPJ+3URSMcP3sRJecY2KdBIQ7FIFQO ELHOrfuuRSvsXQYQXnCmNe8LjMoEMgjo9Dzch0dqDZXvpFqS0dB4IbPBQXpxs0Jl cz3qLtn6IOPmKLigYKAFylY5WJfdkOAEqt9aF52rBcxCmEnF0tQaB235tQz64wTX bo5HPfALvAafV50nX0C/KAJCFoeGJQ2AhDSnUogPIOzH7FW2x1WEnKB5qjjo+A56 B9R0FmVrAMpHXnNRNe9NLV5eZRwcVJjz9SwNF23tfra5QG/5FEBoKYWp6z07Reqj /dRw31QUWfQct4XybVPnEhG/h87/tMUeQ8qY+LUFbDLFrlqV8H0= =63x3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BTyYd/TncaXBS5j4-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 19:20:29 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A26B17F1582 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 19:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSBbW6jFHz3tDF for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 19:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1633893630; bh=KOi73iikT7fnJ/vYWhjMlx8EQzFtA0M40gNIzZD6n0w=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HegTpn+DDl1TIp+9wmhlhbMsq5VDwvFdKymmjYsSef4EbN0d6kVFBQIdFpW01fyw4 ehxEW/ncixEcETJK64DnsUvzg76IgoACZW+YdMcEJP//poVVLoTTl75oH+aPmiPJqf iAFOgoDiG7Y7MWHFETleYYiqbaRzs4/JNgxlA5hqFKA7qMjM2o+o65ZlCyCGQ/Vst7 ulkx1cC75IG5zSXGslgvK0bqEk5x5N/ZawjNgVqQJ/16K7Dp5vo4YFVVosnCHAJ4IU V8rleH4SyQ1FBEs6bp5UfUxlqxoANsWwSMpFo+6CVCslxEaFO8ciAijbPLD6A0650x DHWVlZIOn4gF7RvJlgZQoVbj8tzy8pQ3Q8eptDEjkYfsG8J4G1M5ZZS+qjD+7FZ/AX aSsMh65XOsS6uZBWvSQALP0dgXcvx25sCPT+vUZg3XLDegaoXNMn6fK3EX4HVjYMsc FR+eOaEiUXb/Vhtu3u7FE44K38rxyGIBFH10+7kIm7RWLG3cV7FPg4noz9gECn9w1z 7BcjXVR8L43rna2JAZPyL8NXkC8MDbFYNY5KQRgGW7UIxBB5iDmR2zKwv0pEt2Evs8 WGx2FEDQJq13Dg0JX+MMgLm+Y3dc9x09kBmylxJa8+zacxO6Nb8Pe2fQZ+iWMFZqds oSdotpFHBQwcmiI4wlB/hZaQ= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 12:20:30 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 12:20:29 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSBbW6jFHz3tDF X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=HegTpn+D; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 184.105.128.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/10/21 08:31, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > What, in the opinion of the list, is the best software for > orchestrating configs on freebsd & linux (mainly ubuntu or other > debian-based distro). > > offhand, I know of puppet but have never much used it. thanks, On 10/10/21 09:40, tech-lists wrote: > I was wondering what people on this list would use, and if possible, > what their reasons are. I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl). The most important element is a networked version control system. If and when I need to administer many machines, I will learn a configuration management tool (most likely Ansible, because it is recommended by MWL). David From nobody Sun Oct 10 20:22:48 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C01D17F9CB8 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSCzS4hJhz4YMl for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id r18so49034585wrg.6 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:23:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fRuDs1czSl79pR0VkY+nvrcRC3haXYruFssCJMSTtkU=; b=BDuazM78Pm1DkyyNr3PKrSGNQA0rI2rIwaHa2LG7WUt/hLN6HqZaOVEWjY4aCzaucH bUdn74UPPUSz6KIaE370pDQ47Lhi7oz3fvwQn91X43BX5YhSfEvDzLzf90Kv8kX+wGbN YY+D+TYzxOIY/nZJ8G/1ArqmOU07396uZDCyZMkC9t3ujBtD1tfphnKhBK578iGp6ybE NM+kuL/74z5GV3QZ564lJSc3QXXF/knFszSRBthYns/rbGlhu4qZOR+J2C4Rgh+en8qh B5ZQyWDw5rKLGMyB1R4c+E12eA1w3tQ5hS5TMhBxMxODkAUGOQMtWTSrUVxX/w8PE/6l S5RQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fRuDs1czSl79pR0VkY+nvrcRC3haXYruFssCJMSTtkU=; b=lpag9zSPLOP5Xg5kw+vtydbfvtU53lC5/GeVJoD/S3/MP4kTvTX6rFhMgEKw4TRdLl AEMt3Yi4j6odGjtug6oF6CS5f7O2Egt8+KZWY5/pRyVC2u8O0ISufDgGKUKUPeuuxMEP Q9nTW7kdigRc69NBThV3Gwdw/W5SmQw2MLYonzWcRRO5xkxaXz6ZzKLnfPQDpY8H33gi g61tIJJnXI89Z3ufr0p7sN6qvvkG7M3c3/q1ZPiuViSblKqJQBw4C0IhDSeQmIUWvi3V /dW7/1uxVD6KRm762+I+sCSVDiTGlb/LanZs0Puq1gjYnBWKRuuPmRrpafO2SCsrmWIg jnuw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531emn7Lhwv36GgLdwUQUNm6t/Fmeofb9McsQLqs02B5uDWmGoMq AfCNYV6RHAUH4uRsN+5y74MDlcJ/6nmShatHYIz6NT9A X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzoTDUyiXUntifUIvYoHFyXYBvlxQqmsowQtRQcjEKdV+4NqkK8W4JvBZhi1F6//p3Wz95vKEa1qz6IQ6+HKJc= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:64e2:: with SMTP id g2mr20000822wri.20.1633897379206; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:22:59 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:22:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Rollback ports to before mate update To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e3164e05ce05609e" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSCzS4hJhz4YMl X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=BDuazM78; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kob6558@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kob6558@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.69 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000e3164e05ce05609e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mate was updated to 1.26 and it blew up on me. I have no usable desktop and want to rollback my git clone of ports to its state yesterday. I have the commit hash fron yesterday morning, but I'm not sure how to get there. I really hate to completely blow my ports tree. I'm guessing "git reset" might be what I'm looking for, but I'm far from sure. Help! --000000000000e3164e05ce05609e-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 20:31:18 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003FB17FB153 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSD941NJVz4ZwF; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [188.174.62.217] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZfTb-0000Kh-25; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:31:19 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.16.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id 19AKVIP4071071 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:31:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.16.1/8.14.9/Submit) id 19AKVISc071070; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:31:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:31:18 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: mailman@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-questions mailing list Message-ID: Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mailman@freebsd.org. 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X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.62.217 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSD941NJVz4ZwF X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of guru@unixarea.de has no SPF policy when checking 178.254.4.101) smtp.mailfrom=guru@unixarea.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.40 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[guru@unixarea.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[188.174.62.217:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42730, ipnet:178.254.0.0/19, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[unixarea.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[178.254.4.101:from]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[mailman] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N The handbook points for the mailing list for "freebsd-questions" to this page: https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions but this says: No such list freebsd-questions Where is the web interface and where are the archives? matthias --=20 Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176= -38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub August 13, 1961: Better a wall than a war. 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Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mailman@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mailing list Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSDHW5Ssnz4cPJ X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gojira.at header.s=mail202005 header.b=w6MIVbiZ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of herbert@gojira.at designates 94.130.200.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=herbert@gojira.at X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:94.130.200.20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.746]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.983]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:94.130.0.0/16, country:DE]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[mailman] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 10:31:18PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > The handbook points for the mailing list for "freebsd-questions" to this > page: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > but this says: No such list freebsd-questions > > Where is the web interface and where are the archives? 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Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VRTnoToS6vnYk2OT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSDN005gqz4dc7 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=ayEAi82V; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=StI3Yaa8; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net has no SPF policy when checking 64.147.123.19) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.16 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zyxst.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.66)[-0.656]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.147.123.19:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zyxst.net:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zyxst.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[64.147.123.19:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --VRTnoToS6vnYk2OT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: >I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various >userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl). The most >important element is a networked version control system. > >If and when I need to administer many machines, I will learn a >configuration management tool (most likely Ansible, because it is >recommended by MWL). Thanks for this. After looking at puppet for an hr or so, it's looking to me like it's a tad too complex for my needs right now. But it might be useful in eg having to restart a load of servers without logging into each one via ssh. I'm looking at sshfs atm - could make a dir for each machine and sshfs into each from the host using keys. At least the sshfs way is not having to run servers that would not otherwise be run. I can't restart services this way though. --=20 J. --VRTnoToS6vnYk2OT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFjT7wACgkQs8o7QhFz NAU81xAAnTj0Wt45S8abWURhfCULWTLj6pJtcdeIxwOTuqFG8oZnfQOGh5tdSm77 mBMdrX+KypPykQS5Ej42hVTylxkI+vayZXR9F2rthoEqF19iaO4ZWQkqN6BJR26P j54bAHmaUetiPpP3b2u4+NHH0v/b2X/59jWzpU34aPs4ecDr4v0ZVw+DYd4VyOkK 7nOpUSHU9BcqW4LK/eHKu/AO9VxZ8Kbs7cUtQ8K217xrQw14VJj/LoJP+DH+Wode iJMvZZorquzVWKIGFaWv4r34u1vxccnEo1AKZTvxPcNF6Itvr/N1BNrkMSXgXopV njRmmmAM31ydChDSW0/W/9unQMg/6RAOCILIy4sqnwz3ePEV1Bg2sEvYHiNH+r6F vq+aGqjX/XWGMimc9VSrKeJ+4K23YBn6ft9Dm3TGqcm72fPzz6NFJj+8YISqV4x0 LcFLKyqzsIxCWmMGLqK8NcbpZ+0qj5o/vdkRnet7CVw+gv2R0b0TaMblLyFE7QRM ukbDzbL5GoO+TadX/Aaub4GAqSHlgLhbNpPAYIHtFdjTTDgWQQnoMiYMPdLWtc6A uDelZOYrFq0N3ezKxFlXax94nybqZkTO48vvu4/U3dsmi36qnk9ZjDzvbHQEeVlc +mQ4njT63mNKAXIhauYt4MEQpeJxEyatawhnnqqhTkrrEAHLbns= =/9QG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VRTnoToS6vnYk2OT-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 20:41:57 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC1317FFC22 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [94.130.200.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSDS76gTWz4gvv for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:41:57 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gojira.at; s=mail202005; t=1633898662; bh=obyR/h0VpgK68J7C0p2pe45uEVPcKPoaP9IcCSpsPxg=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r/Jji2Wt4WUFU95nphrxc6I/aZ0ClTvieUlPm0plsYL8vS1k10WS7g0OTdy0iXq1w sRmmrACU2Vo5ZrFq9q588s1xQknyM8QHP0opbXgzdPHZmJTGHhgB7MN1Zc0OCuAbe5 B0kz2ShAu+TQP7A2PTANkWZ9ibabDBwSukzq3IJ45dd5q0WYCiSa41nje3HN/Ntz6R 8u2HCJS8T70L634x/7qxIaeuJ2FJEz8hQVL0q2EjTMqDmC4vgMNGDqAR2tYjxg1/+s i3fOOqdWkejTNJ7hyMt6HpxIRb0VEzvPlgsDYehIj0P9FokugT5ahxOWTEH8EhiptG a+7PU/sW0jjgA== Message-ID: <87ily41uju.wl-herbert@gojira.at> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mailing list In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/29.0 Mule/6.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSDS76gTWz4gvv X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gojira.at header.s=mail202005 header.b="r/Jji2Wt"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of herbert@gojira.at designates 94.130.200.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=herbert@gojira.at X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.51 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:94.130.200.20:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.992]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.977]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:94.130.0.0/16, country:DE] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:36:48 +0200, "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 10:31:18PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > The handbook points for the mailing list for "freebsd-questions" to this > > page: > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > but this says: No such list freebsd-questions > > > > Where is the web interface and where are the archives? > > Switch mailman -> mlmmj. > > https://lists.freebsd.org/ > > https://lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-questions And List-Archive header shows correct URL: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions But yes, someone should update the handbook. -- Herbert From nobody Sun Oct 10 20:52:45 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7DC17E18C7 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSDdq5dYpz4jJj for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [188.174.62.217] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZfoM-0001xW-PW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:52:46 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.16.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id 19AKqj95072814 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:52:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.16.1/8.14.9/Submit) id 19AKqj1a072813 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:52:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:52:45 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vncviewer with scaling Message-ID: Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r368166 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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Thanks. I found krdc, see new screenshot: http://www.unixarea.de/Screenshot_20211010_200532.png matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From nobody Sun Oct 10 21:49:23 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9117EBE54 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 21:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSFvB4qfDz4ssd for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1633902564; bh=9CP57kegU+VykyoDJpc3/znvRcp9t3MOOf2ajGFdtZ4=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ffB43CBbFDHM4+68HtFc1KuVrdAc/+YzG+LLtLpcsGKB+99IkIqLEYfoTpvMSKYcV PFyjVjUz9W4imVf1YCQovWnxfNIkBfkoWeh4kaUO8faAQY7YnT0nS/PTe7YKQ6ddOT GiCqovXh00Hhj+jnRxwGlMCRZm0efyByJFupVljWN0t28I0n67/Via+P+CW8mztXd+ B50zkb+m+JNdjVcrcWddR9SD8KGJ1tUsQQUiTpnuKY8WprR58DfusmLXiTUndPQjCb xrJVv2l3DAxbP7gppY0WVDzLgTayuYuQdZlPASnOUKlvB/puu+9hfJ4sGI7yxwkdJD tRi0mgcMPfiEfdcDSzhHpMWL6T0GpIqCluJavEeM0JQZJdOtbk1LyKo+qxfzzVJz97 AixAfAWdyG1mDz+bhC7fGa9pzbWfk/07WblH+NtlfD1dk5k1S+s6+7MRoNdWJIoSZZ vFgLJhMEPKZthWbFyhR2nz6FauUInU1RRT3kDTHJaDjqgsRyBJmKaC0uHOvPxTJDAS zuXfZNdya2oK6bc/2Q//RkcZdupY0x1cuukWltmpo/R8ufjE3Va1arMMF+EqD3rZLR iY+lPHbhbTTMUyoGpkRD2kAll2fyKiL7S02VYNBEmLsm3+25WHuRcGrU3qnh6Cm8fG KhibJAjoqp6xBBXxxzlRQxT8= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 14:49:24 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 14:49:23 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSFvB4qfDz4ssd X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=ffB43CBb; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 184.105.128.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/10/21 13:40, tech-lists wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >> I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various >> userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl).  The most >> important element is a networked version control system. >> >> If and when I need to administer many machines, I will learn a >> configuration management tool (most likely Ansible, because it is >> recommended by MWL). > > Thanks for this. After looking at puppet for an hr or so, it's looking > to me like it's a tad too complex for my needs right now. But it might > be useful in eg having to restart a load of servers without logging into > each one via ssh. > > I'm looking at sshfs atm - could make a dir for each machine and sshfs > into each from the host using keys. At least the sshfs way is not having > to run servers that would not otherwise be run. I can't restart services > this way though. I use sshfs(1) to mount LAN machine filesystems (read-only) onto a sysadmin workstation (Debian 9), when I want to burn files to optical disk (e.g. archives). I can see how mounting multiple host filesystems with sshfs(1) would be useful for comparing configuration settings (e.g. files). But, I do not use sshfs(1) for administration (e.g. editing system configuration files). I use SSH, Vim, and a networked version control system (CVS): 1. On each machine, I create a CVS project named after the host: dipsy.tracy.holgerdanske.com 2. I check out a CVS working directory under root's home directory: /root/dipsy.tracy.holgerdanske.com 3. Inside the working directory, I create a plaintext log file for my notes, console sessions, etc., and check it in: /root/dipsy.tracy.holgerdanske.com/log.txt 4. I also create a plaintext file listing all of the packages I have installed, and check it in: /root/dipsy.tracy.holgerdanske.com/packages 5. I can create additional child directories as required, add content, etc., and check them in. 6. I must be careful to choose CVS working directory file and directory names that do not conflict with anything in the host root directory. 7. When I want to edit or delete a system configuration file (for example, /etc/hosts), I copy the live file into a parallel directory in the CVS working directory, and check in the file: /root/dipsy.tracy.holgerdanske.com/etc/hosts 8. When I am done working on the file, I check in the final copy. Similarly, I check in any created files. 9. I can use diff(1) to verify that the live system configuration files and the CVS project working directory files have identical contents: 2021-10-10 14:27:39 root@dipsy ~/dipsy.tracy.holgerdanske.com # diff -r / . | grep -v Only I am using the tools at a basic level, which means minimum learning curve, minimum typing, etc., but I am getting a lot of benefit. :-) The above workflow is a huge improvement over my previous ad-hoc processes using rsync(1), scp(1), cp(1), sneakernet, etc.. Most notably, the former processes were error-prone. The most obvious challenge with using a networked version controls system is "what do you do when the network and/or the version control server go down?". David From nobody Sun Oct 10 21:50:42 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A112117ECF3A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 21:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infoomatic@gmx.at) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSFwp4P6Qz4tlm for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 21:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infoomatic@gmx.at) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1633902643; bh=tCPGjK9R1KAKKCp4WGd91Zm9NGV9587kTP0cfLas7Us=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=MoFg3EMV4DqeNEpk5ywopcAm+rT83cs7rV1PIGTxi6LjDXB06gCsUeP9miFgnO1oz 3jlVQ8ewX6zXLIqVAF87UXvdX4wINH1tFc6eri1luDVFKDq5bASfpIZAJyn8TY4lFG SVasMpOOtZidpNhKPqG/lKbpaePIY3d6PNosrSwI= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [10.0.1.209] ([178.114.234.31]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mn2W5-1n0TLQ0YXX-00kBwA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 23:50:43 +0200 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 23:50:42 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? 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Sun, 10 Oct 2021 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mario Lobo Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 19:15:55 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rollback ports to before mate update To: Kevin Oberman Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005442a405ce06f55f" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSGTx3Zrxz3DXk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000005442a405ce06f55f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 17:23 Kevin Oberman wrote: > Mate was updated to 1.26 and it blew up on me. I have no usable desktop and > want to rollback my git clone of ports to its state yesterday. I have the > commit hash fron yesterday morning, but I'm not sure how to get there. I > really hate to completely blow my ports tree. > > I'm guessing "git reset" might be what I'm looking for, but I'm far from > sure. Help! > I think you can accomplish that by going to /usr/ports and run: git checkout hash-of-the-commit --0000000000005442a405ce06f55f-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 22:19:49 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD9D17F12E7 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-io1-xd2d.google.com (mail-io1-xd2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSGZS1sF7z3Fkg for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-io1-xd2d.google.com with SMTP id r134so6339827iod.11 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 15:20:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZmP/JAW7gVc/PasQYf53ekkQjqvzBsYUzkBVNU10tZQ=; b=U+kvD9S6BpLiEZ+s245PcQk/VPs6ZBKL6GjtLRLu1IzQjEa7+sgNvC4McdnACfrQ1a Vk1JTu9sFEMzOhAp1SBBS8appujWR6m8sWSNvjgmJLChf8zLsioKmd09HGj0aGIgJZaI OLFCqqTckd/CbjAsyc10CQm0x2oHd6bdLW4zA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZmP/JAW7gVc/PasQYf53ekkQjqvzBsYUzkBVNU10tZQ=; b=vSzz4deI81MiCoVfbq2vUAWfLQlhgmevJb6I+Urq+sUm1OQvBFL+1dwqyNWVTcIorD xZsll47MdBy6HkNUeLKt1TZF1wSz+iJKCO59khl0L+GksXLEaljcJ4ndWPTdl/kTjyIK Ani6tJaAJAx9GsLF7sV/yb51+SwhVMQgDVYCR6O0QLRdVjStyZ1ZWdBt7OeRyBccBV/R X1QfIPiVWvBZMAtsqrV7eaTgW5lBv0D9eXa0bxH/udzYX+xcFahLYT5c6/F4wnjYReem rEtmqk5MKQ4SMahnYXjkAJ/P+POWyPCIOEYrBTPIdnZp3LAmwQdujEVkVoqyX/mb2fxR uaQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530OP+rprWCuHi2uz/PnKIGSIjsvGgd4m6+odjRSzuQ+Nt8jez00 t2fUP+He2KTwyijxS5inNVe7tGS4h/VOppZB6KCtMw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwhWLdHGdAhJ0ghcYr5BvWKKLgOcmDL/6Z/Vp05yYbbqsvRnuMeDUk2zsFvHssd2K4JFj8pZhlMlzYsvn1c2EQ= X-Received: by 2002:a02:aa96:: with SMTP id u22mr3449024jai.95.1633904399282; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mario Lobo Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 19:19:49 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rollback ports to before mate update To: Kevin Oberman Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000051059605ce070330" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSGZS1sF7z3Fkg X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsd.com.br header.s=capeta header.b=U+kvD9S6; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lobo@bsd.com.br designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lobo@bsd.com.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsd.com.br:s=capeta]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsd.com.br]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsd.com.br:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.07)[-0.066]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000051059605ce070330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 19:15 Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 17:23 Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> Mate was updated to 1.26 and it blew up on me. I have no usable desktop >> and >> want to rollback my git clone of ports to its state yesterday. I have the >> commit hash fron yesterday morning, but I'm not sure how to get there. I >> really hate to completely blow my ports tree. >> >> I'm guessing "git reset" might be what I'm looking for, but I'm far from >> sure. Help! >> > > I think you can accomplish that by going to /usr/ports and run: > > git checkout hash-of-the-commit > > Forgot to mention that I did that 2 days ago to downgrade harfbuzz from 3.0.0 to 2.9.1 because of chromium. --00000000000051059605ce070330-- From nobody Sun Oct 10 22:26:42 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB5D17F2CC0 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSGkJ6XYBz3H6C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DF7D9D01 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 15:26:42 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pinyon.org; s=dkim; t=1633904802; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=FGZPhdYNDA8edi2WtYgEhK3WPj415okz5NgjvYEE6Rc=; b=er6tA0VjA0bFPDi5CNhA2hdAZ3Djkh3Zn71bSD0m+wfRrC6K2I9GLfzYkmXqtvwmjhLuxC z3JuB2F1x45j3l5ISq10hhm8PosH3iP+yIT7uU/ESoJ2hdKT35r1/bij4l0iqI3tTEj41O aXlfhvkKGCH4WiO1Uog36PXyBhkCia4= Message-ID: <31ee138b-243f-ad88-aa46-9cbf5204aa03@pinyon.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 15:26:42 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: "Russell L. Carter" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.90 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSGkJ6XYBz3H6C X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=dkim header.b=er6tA0Vj; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.980]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/10/21 13:40, tech-lists wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >> I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various >> userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl).  The most >> important element is a networked version control system. >> >> If and when I need to administer many machines, I will learn a >> configuration management tool (most likely Ansible, because it is >> recommended by MWL). > > Thanks for this. After looking at puppet for an hr or so, it's looking > to me like it's a tad too complex for my needs right now. But it might > be useful in eg having to restart a load of servers without logging into > each one via ssh. > > I'm looking at sshfs atm - could make a dir for each machine and sshfs > into each from the host using keys. At least the sshfs way is not having > to run servers that would not otherwise be run. I can't restart services > this way though. After 25+ years of multiple FreeBSD + Linux boxes, never more than ten, I use the following maximally stupid configuration management. I use a single machine to keep host specific files git vc'd, and then I just write scripts for tasks and rsync them over and execute them from the config box via ssh. The basic idea I got from saltstack, aka sysutils/py-salt. py-salt I had running like a dream, until I ran afoul of a 2.7->3 python problem, and then I was uh, stuck. No more language dependencies for my configuration control. I have been expecting to need some simple templating that I would probably do with awk, but I haven't needed to yet. It also took me a couple of months off and on to fully grok py-salt. I suspect that investment in time needs to be paid for just about any enterprise ready configuration system. As it happens the time I put into py-salt wasn't wasted, since I needed to understand how to organize remote artifacts and actions anyway. And then I applied those same techniques to building a borg-backup configuration that backs all of my systems up to a single account, so I don't want to discourage learning a robust CMS. Russell